Fouling Out with a Father
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2024
- The plaintiff says the defendant is his estranged son. He co-signed on a car for him, but his son isn’t making the payments. Suing his own flesh and blood is tough, but his son needs a lesson in responsibility. The defendant insists his dad is a bully who kept the car himself, and he denies owing him a penny.
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So, he is going to teach his son that you need to stick to your commitments... meanwhile, he filed for divorce without even discussing it with his spouse.
Dad is a hypocrite
"Gotta stick to your commitments" says the Dad, trying to teach a "lesson" but yet he filed for divorce
The irony! I'm glad someone else caught that :)
Right
Came here to say the exact same thing! Secretly planning to file for a divorce certainly doesn’t seem like sticking to a commitment to me. 🥴
@@AbbyV0128 Google them. Mom, son and dad came out gay 2 years after this
I scrolled thru the comments just to see if anyone made this point 😂
It’s seems as if the Dad not only intended on divorcing the mother but also his son. You switched up the agreement and told your son, who is a full time college student, that he has to pay $1200 within 2 weeks. I would’ve dropped the car off too. I bet he has no problem supporting his other son though.
If the mom and the ... adult child want to come as a package, then there may no other option that divorcing from both. Nobody has the right to manipulate you, even your own child.
This case was more about the parents than it was about the kid. 100% the dad changed the terms to punish the kid for picking team Mom in the divorce. Also 100% the mom enabled the son to stick it to the father by helping him get a car so he could dump the other one on dad. They need to stop making him the ball in their divorce game, and start teaching him some needed lessons in financial management (taking on student loans when he doesn't have to? Putting a car down payment on a CREDIT CARD!? Kid's gonna be in a lifetime of financial debt before his balls drop).
When an adult child as you say is picking a team in the divorce, then the child is accountable for that. We are talking about an adult in this case. No, parents shouldn't have to tolerate everything. The child is an adult, he made his own decisions, the father on this case can make his own too.
@@hyperion6 That kid looks like he doesn't even need to shave yet, and this happened at least a year before the case. Yeah, an "adult," but you expect the parents in this kind of situation to be "more" adult. They are putting the kid in the middle of things by taking advantage of his immaturity. The parents are so set on hurting each other that they don't even realize they are hurting the son in the process.
The son is collateral damage in a messy divorce between a man that appears to have made a complete lifestyle change and a woman that is doing her best to protect her son. Nobody wins here but the son loses the most. I’m all about living life how you were meant to but be good to your kids, especially if they are a good kid. The only “lesson” he taught his son is that dad cannot be trusted.
The dad is a narc. Puuting one child on a pedestal & dwning the other, playing them against each other. This is sad.
How you teaching your kid when you change the agreement at the last second
This father is EXTREMELY immature...
He literally admitted to letting his relationship with his son fall apart basically because the kid is a momma's boy and takes her side. So he's jealous and bothered by it and let's that get in the way of their relationship... Are you kidding me?? Grow the hell up and be the parent and the adult you're suppose to be! Maybe, put your ego and pride aside, treat your kid a little better and not play favorites with the brother because I 100% believe the son about that... And maybe, you could actually have some sort of relationship with your son. If you haven't already ruined it completely...
“ i’m trying to teach Tyler to stick to his commitments,” which is why I secretly divorced his mom?
Grade A hypocrite
No he did not secretly divorced his son's mother. Where are you from? Not Earth I gather.
Touche!!!
@@trekgirl65 he secretly prepared for divorce. Got all his ducks, then ditched everything.
@@trekgirl65The judge asked him if he secretly prepared to divorce her, and he said yes. You have to go and listen to it.
The fact that the son didn't get teary when saying his dad doesn't love him, and the dad didn't become shocked upon hearing that, is evidence that it's true and he's always known it. He is a terrible dad, regardless of this lawsuit.
I usually sympathize with parents because I know first hand that kids can be jerks. But in this case, I feel for the son. The dad decided unilaterally to change up the rules of an agreement he had with his son and expected no push back. He should have kept the monthly payment deal going instead of acting like a tool.
It's fairly clear the dad favours the brother over the defendant.
When the judge asked if he'd sue the brother, he hesitated and his answer felt more like "well golden boy would never do that"
Stop immediately sympathizing with parents. They raised their children. Who do you think is responsible for their kids bad behavior? The boogeyman?
This kid called chores slavery no more needs to be said smh
@@JeremiahLOsborne Peer pressure is a thing and children are very impressionable and vulnerable. Everything you teach them can go out the window when they are out in the world (school, friends house, social media, etc.). It’s on them to apply the things you’ve taught them in your absence. We know how sneaky they can be when mom and dad aren’t watching/around. Not saying all kids or this kid is like this, but sometimes it’s not the parents fault.
@@TeeBabyXOXO If you teach your kids appropriately from the beginning, then they don't want to go sneak out behind your back. The reason they do that is because they don't trust their parents. The kids would rather screw up and then get in trouble rather than talk to their parents about why they should or shouldn't do something. For whatever reason, you're giving parents a pass, but they don't get a pass. They're still responsible for their children's behavior, regardless of the peers that the children are hanging around, And they should be ready and willing to step in when their children's well-being is at stake.
Parents always want courts to teach their kids what THEY are responsible for. If you didn't teach him morals growing up, that is on you!
Sometimes kids need to hear it from someone else
I do agree with you but sometimes we do everything and it's still not enough.
@@selenaheater9858Agree. !!
@@truegileadoil8215no
Best comment of the day! You are 100% correct. Don't ask courts, schools, and churches to do your job for you.
Not all parents are good parents.
We all know why the dad “up and wanted a divorce” lol, sweet
That’s why the son is mad at him👨🏻❤️👨🏼
Speaking of not sticking to commitments...😢
@@Julie-sl8ulwhat’s the alternative, stay married to a gay man? lmao
I think the son is gay too lol takes after his father
I came to comment the same thing! It's giving sweet and low
This is just horrible! The plaintiff is just horrible! And I honestly think this guy switched up on his son to get to him due to hard feelings, not to teach him a lesson.
As soon as I saw the mom sitting with the son I ran to the comments. Y’all never disappoint!
Dad met a new guy that knows how to treat him - he was outta there, quiet, in the middle of the night.
Clearly, my gaydar went off loud and clear.
Hahahababa!
😂😂😂😂
I said the same thing! 😂 I was shocked he had a wife. I'm over here like "damn he been living that straight life lie." 😂
🤣😂🤣😂😂
It’s terrifying that the son is taking out school loans to pay for car he can’t even afford, and at the same time racking up charges on his credit card. He needs to seek or research better (or any) financial advice. 😳
Right no one is commenting on this. Way more scary his future might be full of loans
I was thinking the same thing
No point in financial advice when we’re all being exploited under unregulated capitalism
Exploited 🤮 . An adult taking out loans is not unregulated capitalism. But since you’re a commie maybe we can find some common ground. No one should be giving this kid any money to go to school. Agreed
@Mannymoco239 Participating in capitalism (outside of necessities) is a choice. Don't wanna rack up debt? live more simply.
I feel for the son. He seems like a nice kid an he’s going to college. His father seems very self centered to me
Dad is angry he had kids and used his wife as a front to hide his homosexuality. Stevie Wonder can see this
The dad is not a homosexual. Please don't wish that on the LGBTQ community. LOL
For those of you speculating about what side of the fence the Plaintiff was on - Google his name and you'll find the NY Post article "After 23 years of marriage, Connecticut husband, wife both come out as gay." And the article has a big picture of the plaintiff and defendant all smiles at a 2019 pride parade so I guess they did make up....
And his son here is also gay, i googled it and him and dad both attended the parade..
Seriously… 😂
Daddy got a "DADDY" on the side and that's why he divorced his wife. 😂 Homeboy was tired of that straight life lie and staying in that dusty closet. He never cared about his family and it shows.
Idk, there are plenty of marriages where someone is closeted but they still love their spouse and children, even having sex with their spouse and whatnot. But this guy is definitely a jerk. He should have just been upfront and honest instead of this petty nonsense. Poor kid. He sounds like a good kid, going to school and working, he’s not a lazy mooch who just expects handouts, he just expected help from his parents which I think all young adults are entitled to.
Bingo!
The way the judge just asked him for the reason for the divorce is so salacious You know it was completely done for the drama
1:34 in and I completely understand why the Plaintiff and his wife divorced. Cue the rainbows and unicorns. And how ironic the DBag Plaintiff says, "I'm trying to teach him to honor his commitments" after the Plaintiff files for divorce. Way to parent...
I don't think the plaintiff should have gotten a dime. He's the one that changed their agreement. So, he's out of luck.
"Stick to ur commitments" says the guy who was married 20+ years and got a divorce which caused the family breakdown
Dad was ridiculous in saying he's teaching his son a lesson in responsibility. Don't expect a college student to be able to come up with a lump sum of money. Should've just made monthly payments for insurance. Seemed like the young man had been responsible with what he was capable of financially. I don't think this father taught his son anything other than he only cares for himself. Shameful.
Dad is just cheap or broke,and miserable
So, he blindsided his ex with a divorce and then blindsides his son with expectations to pay the insurance in full (whereas lrevious years he'd been able to pay it off). Then gets pissy when son leaves him the car that was in his name. (seriously the dealership decided which of the cosigners was exclusively on the title) Lots of unilateral decisions.
Blindsided???!!! Even Stevie Wonder could tell the dad has a little sugar in his tank 🤣🤣🤣
Sometimes you teach and teach and they only learn from life itself. I would NEVER sue my child under any circumstances, no.
@@SuzyDamari21 Google them....all 3 are gay
this dad is a bit odd... if your kid disrespects you its your own fault... What goes around comes back to you!
“You have to stick to your commitments..”
Except for getting married … 😂😂😂
The plaintiff is a horrible man. He talked about commitments, but he is the one who changed the commitment. The defendant is too good a young man to be his son. I was disgusted by this plaintiff. I felt dirty watching him.
He was asked to cook and wash dishes and he says he was treated like a slave…. Like judge said that’s why we have kids… having said that, I would NEVER SUE MY CHILDREN!!!
Always bum parents suing their kids 😢
the ending, trying to teach him to stick to his commitments, the dad broke the terms
That moma's boy does not have even the slightest idea of what it was like to be a slave. Probably lives in FL where they can't discuss it in school.
You don't sue family especially close family like ur son
"Stick to your commitments"
Like marriage?
"Do as I SAY not as I do!"
Teaching the son absolutely no responsibility.
plaintiff is trying to leave his old life behind and move on. pretty sickening.
You never sue your kids... take the lost and move on
Feel sorry for the son; working, paying for school and a father who wont help him.
The father did help him. Helped him out of his car and into a courtroom. Sad as hell.
Get rid of Harvey.
Why couldnt the son pay the insurance monthly versus paying the lump sum for the year? He knew his son is a college student and working part-time. Thats crazy
Why can't the dad and his new husband help the boy with the insurance payment? Terrible dad. After the boy made him breakfast. 😢😢😢😢
No I would not sue my child and ruin their credit! It's the parents job to train the child
Dad divorced the mom and son sided with the mom. Dad punished son for siding with mom.
The dad's the jerk to be honest. He tried to be a good father, but that didn't work for him.
I think the divorce happened because dad is a little gay. My son was going to Nursing school, married, living with us, not paying rent or utilities, and that was good with us. We then paid his car off when they were looking at their own house to reduce their debts. That is what you do for your kids. He now works for the Veteran's Administration as a Registered Nurse and doing well. It was an investment that we made in our kid because that's what good parents do.
This sound like an elaborate scam. You traded your vehicle and your son’s vehicle for a new car but paid 15k on it and now you want to pocket court money to recoup your losses? That means your new car would be free and you’d have ur money back
This kid is a product of terrible parenting. How is this "dad" upset at what happened? He raised this kid. He failed his son
Absolutely correct. The dad is sick in the head. Just because he's articulate doesn't mean that he has his stuff together. He thinks he's teaching his kid to stick to commitments, yet he goes and divorces the kids mother. That kid will never have any respect for his father for the rest of his life.
@@JeremiahLOsborne real talk
Wait. He wanted to teach Tyler to stick to your commitments? Laughable. He’s divorcing his wife
The father is wrong. What a jerk!
I am not sure if I can post links or not, but there is a NY Post article about them all. Older brother is straight. Younger brother, Tyler Downer, the defendant, came out to his parents. Soon after that, the plaintiff, Bruce Downer, came out as gay and that is why he filed for divorce. Turns out, after their divorce, the mother, Joanne Hamilton, came out as a lesbian and as of June 2019 (when the article was written), she was engaged to a woman to be married. Bruce Downer and his son Tyler Downer attended a gay pride parade together in June 2019, and did the article together. So it seems like they have been able to patch up their relationship.
It also looks like Tyler is engaged and getting married next year.
This case is about the Mom & Dad. The “kid” was a pawn between them. Shame on them!!! 🔔
How funny. At the very end, Dad says he needs to teach his son how to stick to commitments. And he's the one who filed for divorce. Does the father not realized that the son doesn't respect him anymore? He broke up the family, why would he respect his father? Quite frankly, I believe the sun more than the father, that there is a difference in the treatment of the two children.
Families with at least one narcissistic parent usually have a child that becomes the scapegoat, and another child that is labeled the golden child. If we listen to these family dynamics, sounds about right. Dad's the narcissist, as evidenced by him. Divorcing his wife as soon as his son turned 21, already having a new girlfriend, and then suing his son for $3,000. So that's what he has told his son. He is worth to him. $3,000.
I don't know about the rest of you, but to me, my kids are absolutely priceless. There is nothing in the world more valuable than them, including my own life.
There is wisdom is what you say but I’m really tired of the term narcissist. It is the most overused term right. Everyone is being labeled that.
@@oldageisdumb I understand how narcissism is being overused nowadays. But this is fitting the pattern of the golden child/ scapegoat family system. Strategically waiting to file for divorce shows that he was done with the family that he created, regardless of the commitment that he made to the emotional well-being of those people. People. He has no empathy for them. He doesn't care that his son is struggling, would he cares about is $3,000. Hypocrisy and lack of accountability are also classical narcissism traits. I'm just calling it like I see it.
As far as sue yeah that’s another topic .. but commitment? He was married for 22 years I don’t condone anyone sticking it out because of a dynamic when it’s already dysfunctional… everything has a season and it’s not to be forced . As far as a relationship with his father that’s what he has .. df if his father dies today what he gunna do get it in his moms name WTF ? He just said they pay for his damn college smh . Then he complaining about making eggs are you serious lmaooo … what world do y’all live in .. ppl don’t even have fathers that’s doing half of what hes doing … GROWN THE PHUC UP
@@rlwells6475 They don’t pay for his college.. where did they say the that? The son said he gets loans and the dad takes it out of the son’s college loans
@@oldageisdumb lol I see you couldn’t debuke anything else and your still wrong 😑🙄 You can’t debuke a good listener 6:33 .. MOVE !
Dad change the agreement!
Dad is more feminine than Mom , WOW 😮
So?
And?
😂
like a slave, really??
What was the reason for the divorce? Let me think about that.
It may have helped the plaintiff had he brought in his boyfriend to testify.
Teehee
Dad doesn't like Tyler as he probably reminded him of himself in terms of his sexuality
That dad is clearly interested in gentlemen. I'll never understand why women are attracted to that.
Danmn he can’t pay for insurance himself up front and allow his son to pay him back in installments?
There's much more going on with this family.... Dad.
Dad divorced to live his true self 💅
So dad wants the court to teach his son what he should have done in the first place.
this man got his mama's WHOLE face . & im glad the father can finally be himself 🌈😭
Instead of the Defendant paying the $1200 insurance premiums, he now pays $1500. He shafted his dad.
The son appears to be a good lad. He shows up in court in a suit and tie. Most folk dont bother to get dressed up. I've seen way worse clothing in court.😮 Of course the mother wearing jeans with a hole is a diff story.
Dad is gay he left her for a man…got to be
I don’t think your father treated you like a slave, sweetheart I come from the extension of slavery and the stuff that you were saying that your dad told you to do is not slavery. It’s chores that someone your age should be doing if you’re living at home.
Right!!
This is sad. The father handle everything wrong. The young man is a full time student, works part time and trying to take on responsibilities. I didn't hear any love in this man voice when talking about his son. So sad.
I think the dad was clearly gay had a midlife crisis, wanted more, left and for whatever reason I think the dad knew his son was too much like him, that’s why he was closer to the mom, she knew he was also gay, and I think the dad resented him for it because he’s just like him
When he said his dad always treated him unfairly. I was expecting to really hear something. I didn't expect him to say he made me do chores like anybody else. It was wild😂😂😂
That was hilarious! Yes, maybe it was worse than some families, but if my children's friends are over and I need them to do something USUALLY it's because I asked them to do it BEFORE their friends came over. If they didn't, guess what they are doing now???
Bottom line: *Never co-sign for anyone and I mean ANYONE!*
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER...
Awwwww. This poor kid is so overworked 😂😜🤣
With that partial payment you could have gotten your own insurance and saved a lot of trouble.
Like father like son....
"......trying to teach him (Tyler) that you have to stick with your commitments." Ohhhh, okay. Sure. 😅
Dad has a soft ass but not a soft heart. He strategically planned his exit to avoid child support.
Thank you. I wondered why he waited so long. That totes fits the storyline and characters.
Seems like the dad was using his son as a pawn.
If "daddy" Downer ever decides to transition, he can change his first name to "Debbie".
Maybe the son is upset because he now has two dads. Yeah...I know I wasn't the only one who saw that from a mile away! 🙄🙄🙄
I'm sorry the son sounds spoil
“I was like a slave” this soy boy gen Z generation can’t handle doing simple work lmaooo
The dad has a limp
Wrist
Wow, the definition of slavery has been diluted beyond all recognition. 😂
Father of the year
The kid made a big decision and got a loan for a vehicle. He should've not got the car if he wasn't able to keep up with the payments. I got my 15yr old coupe for $2400 with no loan and it works just fine.
I don't think it was the car payments. It was the $2k bill the plaintiff sprung on him last minute when previously the bill had been spread into payments.
"you gotta teach em'. - lmao. not by coddling em junior. Sometimes children need to go to the school of hard knocks.
This has been a good lesson for all concerned and for other parents to learn from. The mother needs to go for a physical and spiritual makeover to build her self-esteem so she doesn't get railroaded again by the males in her life.
Damn the dad act like he really doing a lot for his son but he doing bare minimum. My son is in college n I pay his car insurance until he is done with school because it’s hard to work n do school at once
How do you go to court on national tv and take your son to court. A failure as a parent. The son is also taking loans for college. As a parent myself if you can’t help your son or daughter what could I say. I would say bad parents
Do you have kids?
@@TopherGrant “As a parent myself…” what do you think this means? lol
His son is going to college and working and paying for the car and insurance at 21 years old. Then makes it hard for the kid to be this responsible. Mom has been raising these kids on her own while Dad acts like a jerk. They’ll be fine. Dad will “ride” off into the sunset with his “new love”, and Mom will continue raising her kids and one have grandkids to love. I speak from experience. ❤️
There is no case the plaintiff could ever win this case, even if the judgement went in his favor. By filing this lawsuit, the dad lost.
he's a loser
1000000000000% can have your child on your insurance policy with their own car with your name being unattached TF my parents did it for the three of us and my grandmother in two states 🥴...threatened to come and pick up the car after threatening to downgrade the insurance on a leased car(pretty sure that's not legal.)... I mean thats ONE way to cut ties with your own child.
Whenever you lease a vehicle, you are required to carry higher limits liability.
A lot of restrictions are involved with leasing a vehicle.
For a single male, the insurance premiums would be outrageous
My jaw dropped at the end!
Oh wow. The son had such a horrible exoerience. He actually had to wash the dishes.
Wow! To loose your kid over 3k.. I can't even imagine. My son is 30. I've had to help several times and he has needed waaaaay more than 3k from me. I am a believer in teaching a lesson so they can stand on their own two feet and all but if you can't call on your family for help who can you call. And he was actually keeping up his payments so this is even worse. If he had missed a bunch and drove without insurance I could see him taking the car back but that was not an issue. What a hard nose and now he may have lost his own son over 3k.