Gripen dispersed operations
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2024
- The Swedish system with dispersed air bases goes back decades. The ability to move quickly between different dispersed airbases with minimal resources spread out across the country, makes us unpredictable. Gripen was designed with that in mind from the beginning. What makes the Swedish Gripen system unique is that we can operate like this and sustain for a long time.
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"Change an engine on the field within 1 hours." That just insane and impressive! 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
With the same 5 conscripts and one technician that does all the other stuff.
and then you actually visit reality for a brief moment and realize that both Raffale and EF actually beaten Gripen in the Swiss tests, with both planes being easier to maintain in the field and faster turn around between missions. Just LOL
@@Silentbob515 Corruption and french influence inserting lies.
Gripen gets that all the time.
When the Norwegians "tested" the Gripen they seriously said that one of the reasons for their no was that it had no refueling capability, when an example was standing right there, with the refueling probe extended...
That's how ridiculous it can get.
It has been done on a road base in 45 min, from the Gripen coming to a stop and rotation.
One can change engines on a whole squadron of Gripens before you manage to get the engine out of a F-35. Atleast thats how long it took in 2019 in a hangar with dedicated equipment and a team of flight mechanics.
The Swedish military architecture is essentially designed around a hypothetical Russian Invasion. Swedish design is sometimes hit or miss, but when they get it right, they nail it 100%.
60% of the time it works all the time?
@@felixmarseille6905 The distribution of success on a scale from 0 to 100 is usually a bell curve, pawel is saying that for Swedish design the curve has a big spike around the 100 mark on the graph 😉
Any examples of misses? Not saying you are wrong, just curious
@@jocjoc5587 Stridsvagn 103 was quite a miss, I'd say.
@@insertoyouroemailYou're crazy. It was a master piece for it's time. Automatic gearbox, could be operated by a single crew member, 17 rpm fire rate, nearly impenetrable frontal armour.
okay you convinced me..I am gonna buy one
I have several used ones I can sell you at half price. Also I have luxury properties in eastern Ukraine you might be interested in. Very safe neighborhoods.
Gripen, one of the best planes to exist in my eyes, its just too beautiful
best? in what exactly? because it's not the best in almost every single metric there is. yes it's overall really good. but the best? wtf
@@riskinhosThe combination of easy maintenance, dispersed operations, advanced EWS, tactical datalink with state of the art weapons systems.
@@riskinhos He said ONE OF the best, acknowledging it is not THE best. Try reading a bit better.
Most of its components are American and British
@@zohier75 Components differs between A, C and E.
E uses an American engine, but avionics is not American.
Sault to the Swedish from across the pond 🇬🇧
Salut right back at you, from a Brit living in Sweden 😅😅 "You can't go anywhere without bumping into a Brit!"
salut to u too im a swede who really loves gripen E and all other gripens
They dont know u lil bro
@@Aldronex why so toxic i havent done anything to u.
Yeah we do! @@Aldronex
Glad to have you in our team! Hopefully also in NATO soon... Regards from Germany! 🇸🇪 🤝🇩🇪
No! Do not join the offensive & terrorist organization know as NATO.
I think the Hungarian Parliament votes them in next week.
@@deanfirnatine7814They took some extended vacation to delay it :)
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Germany should buy Gripen 👍🏻
Epic presentation. From watching grainy clips of Viggens flying off roads back in the day, theyre not making this up. The Wing Commander out in the rain like one of his troops, nice.
J35 Draken
@@hjelpekokk Draken didn't have STOL, so I'm not so sure the roadbase system worked for it. You have any reference?
0:30 is 100% Draken im Swedish I know. Viggen didnt have round inlets.
@@thehoogard They used a parachute for the Draken to make it stop. Taking off was not a problem.
They even added extra tail wheels to protect the engine from the steep takeoff.
Draken should be returned to service just due to the fact it is the coolest fighter jet ever built (sorry Gripen designers 😄). As a kid they always flew over our summerhouse out on an island. Since there was a tennis court on the island it was an easy reference point for the pilots before all this GPS nonsense the Ruskies now are messing with anyway. Best was however when the full armada of old Swedish Air Force Mustangs (sorry SAAB 😊) showed up over the horizon.
A good thing about the Gripen… for me personally, now enjoying sleeping late in the summer mornings… is that they aren’t quite as noisy as some other fighter jets. I have had American F-16s during NATO exercises wake me up a bit annoyed for their loudness. But can American intentionally produce something that isn’t loud… I doubt it (sorry Americans 😉).
Swedens you are awesome, greatings from Poland.
Respect from India. We admire your distributed lethality concept. Survival on the ground is more important than most air forces realise. Air field infra is always among the first targets...this is a good concept.
you guys should make a movie like top gun but for gripens
With beautiful Sweedish actress, I agree.
There is one movie where the Gripen plays a bug part:
"Hotet" from 2004
PROUD TO BE SWEDISH RAHHHHH!!! (I'm Canadian)
At least you are on our side🫡
@@byggloket2590no greater bond than those that live amongst the Arctic North ❤
Proud to be Canadian eh! (I'm Swedish)
Pretty to hear even Canadians say they're proud to be Canadian!@@primedasymmium
Absolute Beast, the Gripen! 💪👍
*I'M GLAD THESE GUYS ARE ON OUR SIDE!* 🇸🇪🇺🇸
I'd like to buy one Gripen but my Camaro SS is great too! Can't fly it though. 😆 Greets from Gothenburg, Sweden. 🇸🇪🇺🇸
@@Draco_Nex Are Camaro's rare in Sweden?
@@raindrop8061 no pretty common. Though cars like ford gt is more common here:)
@@byggloket2590 Yeah Sweden got some money I tell you that. GDP per capita has gone up so much since the 60's
@@raindrop8061 Sweden has a little more than 10 million citizens. The number of the kind I own (Camaro SS 6.2L V8 with 461 HP), there is only 95 cars of the 6th generation (2016 - 2019 - before facelift) in the entire country. All Camaros together, any age and with any engine the total number is 7963 registered cars. I think that Camaro is also more common in rural areas/countryside than in Sweden's biggest cities like Stockholm, Gothenburg and Malmö. Not sure though. Please correct me anyone if you know I'm wrong. Mustangs are more common here. The total number of Mustangs (Mustang Mach-E NOT included) is almost the double, 15 559 cars.
About 20 years ago, I was travelling with my father who had business near Växjö. While he was in a meeting, I was stretching the legs of the Volvo S40 rental, which for some reason was a T4. I was bombing up and down, and got it up to 200 km/h, on a weirdly wide, straight stretch of two-lane road which was otherwise almost completely empty. Only recently I learned of the purpose of that road and others like it. Quite an epiphany.
im 33 and i have known since i was like 5 or something
@@andreelindevall1203 If I was Swedish, I probably would too.
@@ArKritz84 sorry, i assumed you were
@@andreelindevall1203 fair assumption, I didn't specify it in my first comment.
@@ArKritz84 Yeah
Saab never ever lost it's touch, the gripen is one of the most versatile quick response Planes in The World.
Preparation is everything. A huge credit to SAAB. It's nice to have Sweden by our side
Velkommen til nato, det er godt å ha dere her
Tack. Äntligen blir vi även militära bröder🎉
Nah. Let's hope for a nordic defence union instead though.
@@CaesarfuckinplaysLoL no. UNITED WEST is the way. NATO
It's a good day when Saab uploads
Brilliant, unparalleled and practical system/solution to a real world tactical dylema!
That mindset should have been adopted by most NATO countries, for the very same imperatives also constrain them!
You would have sold a lot more birds, if that had happened. I am still surprised Finland did not opt for the Gripen.
If all Scandinavian countries would convert to this platform and approach it would be so much better
I'ts not help that we standing up for them i Finnish VinterWar against Sovjet.
And we own Finland in 800 year!
They buy expensive flight from USA since WW2.
@@detskalldaltas133 Finland flew J35 Draken. To be honest, they have the right to get whatever fighter jets they want. They doesn’t own us anything even that it would had been nice to sell some Gripens to them, but they chose F-35 and I’m sure they had a good reason for that!
@@Hiznogood Yes they have Kekkonen and two woman Presidenti!
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@@detskalldaltas133 The Gripen lacks many of the capabilities the F-35 possesses. Also, with Finland in NATO, operating out of motorways isn’t necessary.
FInland plans to operate the F-35 from dispersed road bases just like they do with the F/A-18 now.@@anon69_q
Insanely badass and amazing. Länge leve Sverige!
Excellent work, Saab. 🇸🇪!!
Amazing!!! congrats Saab from Brazil!
Very nice fighter jet.
And the capability to operate from “middle of nowhere” is very impressive in my opinion.
It is great to see countries adapt and find unique formulas to maximize their strengths. Incredible to see how this doctrine is reflected all the way from development to operational planning.
Great footage of the Saab fighters!
Beautiful!
As other have commented, this baby is like the jungle guerilla fighter of the skies.
Flexible, versatile, agile and pops up where you least expect them to.
Can you imagine some overconfident douchebag riding in his SU- 57 or equivalent, acting like he owns the skies or something.
Then suddenly a radar warning pops off and he sees a lone Gripen sitting on his 6, where there were none.
While he shits bricks trying to figure out where Gripen came from, Gripen pilot just mutters "överraskning!!" and drops his sidewinder.
Boom!!
Damn i love Saab! ❤
SAAB
@@larszenthio1012Saab
Not a bad thing at all, in Norway we are now doing similar things with the F-35A.
We were one of the first to install a dragchute system that would allow the F-35 to land on snowy runways, shorter runways and internal roads outside towns and cities.
Haha. Yeah. And if its -1 degree or a slight wind, or maybe cloud, perhaps a spec of dust. Sorry its grounded no flying under thoose horrendous conditions 😂
@@TH-qh6jz Both the Gripen and the F-35 is "all weather" aircrafts.
@@TH-qh6jz We don't operate within those rules.. most of the time in Norway the conditions are outside what you described, we're still gonna fly.
Did you get the B or C version? Unfortunately every little pebble hitting the paint job when launching or landing on a road will mean a huge job for technicians to fix the stealth capabilities. And you can’t really do a similar thing. Unlike the Gripen, you can’t use whatever conscripts, whatever tools, and whatever refueling and rearming gear to maintain and launch an F35. You need professionally trained engineers and special and expensive equipment. If that equipment and such technicians can’t swiftly be taken to the site, you can’t launch it. And changing an engine on a parking lot along a road… forget it.
But Norway has opted for a quite different defense strategy. In the north the air defense I would assume will come from US aircraft carriers (and if you got the B or C versions, you could likely launch the Norwegian F-35s from those too) as can the Finns their F-18s. In the south, Sweden would have to take the hit with the Gripens, and you Norwegians can provide support launching the F-35s from well maintained air bases way behind the frontlines. Although, you’d have to ask the way smarter generals if that’s so.
The NATO strategy in the event of an aggression from Russia is essentially to abandon the NATO nations in the east (Sweden likely to be one of those… since that has already been the national strategical option) to fend for themselves for six months, until the other NATO nations can muster a counter offensive. The time it takes to train enough maintenance crew for the F-16s, F-35, etc. possibly one reason to why this is so. Although letting the Ruskies grab and hold the Swedish island of Gotland for so long wouldn’t be the smartest strategy for NATO.
@@TH-qh6jz you do know that for about 40% of the year (in alot of the country) its under 0 degrees in norway and in sweden right? and the other 60% its raining. If theyre built in sweden, they can handle the cold. Also its almost always windy in sweden.
I don't care what anyone says about Gripen, this thing is awesome. The way Sweden continues to manafacture it's own fighter jets is legendary. 🇸🇪
Sweden has a very well developed and specialized doctrine for its own defence. Probably THE country in the world that punches the most above its weight.
Saab - hitting so much above their weight class. Incredible range of products. Still absolutely blown away that Canada did not at least split their AC order with Saab. I'd love to know what the refuel and rearm times for the F-35 are - let alone engine replacement. F-35 incredible aircraft no doubt, but Gripen has many advantages themselves.
Bit of a stupid comparison when the f35 is there to achieve and maintain total dominance and the gripen is there to create a contested airspace where the advantage will be in swedens favour. Its like comparing a mig 21 to a tomcat they are different weapons with a different purpose. Gripen slaps no doubt but f35 is playing a different game
@jezzat3778 I think when NATO combines all available systems and work together we creates a truly unmatched force. Everything has it's place.
@@tryttatrytta4472 oh undoubtedly it’s amazing the spread of capabilities nato possesses. From almost guerilla air forces to next gen stealth jets with data link and everything in between
The F-35 might be an incredible aircraft, but it is completely unsuited for Canada's needs. First and foremost we need an interceptor capable of operating from austere airfields. Next on the list would be low operating cost. Gripen ticks all those boxes, the F-35 ticks none of them.
And the super fast turnaround times work for us too. Considering how long it has taken our Government(s) to make a fighter jet decision, I wonder how long it will take them to build facilities in the far north to support F-35 activities. @@JonMartinYXD
Le savoir industriel de Saab n'est plus à démontrer. Bravo, un bien bel avion avec de grandes qualités et des spécificités qui le rendent unique !
Stunning Video!
Incredibly cool and brilliant, subscribed.
Great concept!✅
Viken perfekt och praktiskt skönhet!
Thats crazy! Fantastic idea well achieved already by Swedish engineering.
Great Video, very impressive, thanks for sharing
Seems like a very good idea. The kind many people will ignore at their peril if it ever has to be applied in practice.
This is the plane Canada should have chosen. Gripen can fly out of Inuvik to patrol our north. The F-35 will need external tanks or in-air refuelling just to _get_ to Inuvik (but can't operate out of it). On top of that, Saab was offering full technology transfer and production of the Gripen in Canada. For the F-35 we won't be able to even modify the software without US approval, and the modifications have to be done in a facility in the US that we, Australia, and the UK are paying to construct (the Americans have their own such facility and it was very expensive to build and it is obscenely expensive to operate).
Gripen is a low maintenance multi-role aircraft that fills the primary role we need: interceptor.
The F-35 is the hangar queen stealthy light bomber that... well I'm not sure what it is supposed to do for Canada.
Swedish should ratify immediately the MOU agreement between the Philippines so we can have these beautiful birds flying in our air space. ❤❤❤
Agree even tho I'm in favor of F-16s. The Philippine Air Force needs the Gripen as SAAB can deliver it quicker due to 14 pre manufactured units.
Then there's the turnaround/flexibility capability that it has and especially the integration of MBDA Meteor.
The initial DP is already inserted in the 2024 budget though but max suggests to go for alternative options such as getting used F 16s and additional FA 50s particularly Block 20
@@paulsteaven PH’s roads and Right of Way needs to be fixed before we can “copy” Sweden’s Bas 90 system which is an example of dispersed/ quick turnaround.
Imagine a Gripen trying to land on PH roads, it will be a disaster due to Power lines, overpasses, crappy road quality, right of way obstructions, etc.
@@francotaningco1708 either the DND/AFP will go:
1) If stick to one supplier: Gripen CD -> E/F
2) Multiple contracts: Gripen CD -> F-16 used from third party -> F-16 used from US -> Planned twin engined MRF
@@johna3142 Don't forget additional FA 50s too and be part of a multiple contract deal
Gripen is an amazing fighter jet!
Obrigado Suécia pelo monstro ✈️😎
You have to love Swedes for this ! ❤️
Love that language and Swedish badass-ness 💪
Thank you 🎉
i love gripen sooo much
👏👏🙏...thank you SAAB and Swedish Air Force for this awesome video!!... great footage and well edited!!.. the Gripen fighter is an amazing aircraft, agile, well armed and can use short take off runways!!!....would be a cracking choice of plane for Ukraine!!👍💯👌🇺🇦
legends ❤
Gåshud!
Best of the best!!
Being small landing on roads to rearm and refule is pretty amazing
They didn't even show off the 3-point reversal capability of Gripen! 😀
That is some wild stuff.
SAAB 💙💛
What a surpreme masterpiece of engineering. 😍
This is Swedish engineering at its finest 🇸🇪
Wish we would've opted for the gripens in Finland as well
WOW, the fighter jets in the short clips of this video (the videos of previous and old models that not produced anymore) is exactly what the country I'm living in is still using!
That's awesome! A squadron of forward deployed, easily serviceable Gen3 fighters is worth way more than a single Gen5 fighter that you don't have.
I love warmogering, and Saab wants to sell, so keep up the good work guys....
Let's gooo SAAB! Sweden force 💪🇸🇪
This plane is so impresive! Regrettable that Switzerland did not buy Gripen
Incredible people hopefully they can hold onto their unique culture
Meanwhile, my country (Philippines) still waiting to sign the acquisition program for our MRF program for Philippine Airforce, and this aircraft is the priority of our airforce. I hope the signing of MRF acquisition will be done as soon as possible, because my country needs this aircraft as our first didicated MRF aircraft.
Wait, the Philippines are buying Gripen?
Always ready👊💯
Still don't understand why Norway went for F35 rather than Gripen. Nice work SAAB!
Norway has been part of NATO longer, so it's sorta expected..
Bra jobbat 👍👍
Amazing!
Great country, great concept, great little fighter too. Hope mr. Orban will be 'persuaded' sooner than later to let Sweden in NATO. Maybe by withholding spares for its Gripen fleet?
You guys are my heroes since my childhood ❤🎉
As a child I wish I was born in Sweden 🇸🇪 😅 for trying to become a Vigen fighter pilot. Fate steered me toward being a misic composer instead 😂 but you’re still my heroes!
Looking good! Glad to have you as our neighbor. Greetings from Finland, and welcome to NATO any second now!
Fan vad fint
I LOVE THE SAAB GRIPEEEEENN!!!
It’d be nice if we had opted for such a flexible system designed for resilience 🇹🇼
ok. where can I get one?
one of the best in the world
It's not just a plane, it's an entire system of technology, people and resources to decentralize combat effectiveness from the least likely place; from everywhere there is a road to launch the SAAB Gripen to stay in the fight and to win!
Regards from Poland, we should have Gripen!
This plane is best looking ever and you can't change my mind
F-4 Phantom and F14 Tomcat are most pleasing to my eyes, but Gripen is fantastic in its increadible simplisity
@nattygsbord I like the shape of the F-14 but the F-4 looks blocky, and I tend to avert my eyes when looking at one
@@Ulfur8574 It looks cool. But the later F4E model is ugly with that nose.
I think Viggen is the coolest of Swedish aircraft. It looks powerful and menacing with its thick neck and bogie landing gear and Green splinter camo.
Gripen looks tiny and weak by comparison - but people are of course mistaken by its size, as this plane is strong as an ant and punches enormously above its own weight.
Canada not adopting the Gripen is one of our biggest fumbles out of the many procurement failures we have had. Such a large country could benefit immensely from this fighter.
The procurement failure was even running a competition in the first place, the F35 was the obvious choice for us and we took 16 years to get them, Gripens are neat, Fifth Gen Stealth Mutliroles are a bit more useful though.
@@connorbranscombe6819 Gripen E in particular has what is basically a "5th gen" sensor/avionics/EW suite, with full open architecture and flight dynamics software firewalled from system/sensor software (allows super fast software updates with no need to re-certify flight dynamics). SAAB has also been doing datalinked ops since Draken. If you're gonna operate F-35 from distributed locations at a high optempo, you'll have stealth for the first few days then you might as well go "beast mode" since your stealth coatings will have degraded with no way to repair in the field. RF stealth has become just one aspect of design, not the end-all it seemed to be in the 1980s.
Plus, the F135 motor is a huge, hot IR point source which the F-35 design does little to mask...
@@vmpgsc Honestly kinda just sounds like you’re bitter nation governments know the F-35 is far superior to a gripen.
💓 förbannat bra.
Regarding whats happening in Ukraine on the drone-development side, this is even more crucial, spreading out your most expensive kit not relying on static infrastructre is more like an gerillatype of warfare, infact the volunteer/home guard is instructed and currently training on partisan warfare/defense.
@NiclasEriksson I agree the Gripen has the quickest turnaround time and is the easiest and cheapest to operate and service.
I'm in my mid 30's But i Still remember the SAAB Turbo in the 90's And the Ad's that SAAB used to make for there cars were Magic!!
It went something like ,,
Why Buy a Car from a Car Dealer , When you Can Buy a SAAB Built From A Fighter Jet
And Then the Gripen would Fly over the car at about 10-20 feet off the ground!
I'm a Sucker for a Delta Wing , My Fav Fighter of all time is the Phoon
( EF TYPHOON )
But The Gripen & Rafel & F-22 & Mirage Are All up there for me! I Love the Look of a Delta Wing Fighter and they are always Amazing in a Dogfight & Can take off from a Tiny strip of runway or road lol
Och sedan ett antal 100 Himars system så känns det genast tryggare. 💪🇸🇪
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Goosebumps anyone?
De hette Bas 60 och 90 och var delvis permanenta då det fanns avtagsvägar osv men vad kallas dessa idag eller är det så att varje vägbana med tillräcklig längd och bredd kan användas?
Kanske hemligstämplat, men om inte så vore det intressant att veta.
Much Better!
It's good to have the Swedes on our side!
👁️ well done.
Greetings from Poland
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"Stockholm base, this is Mig-Hunter One. I'll make a deal with you - stop giving me commands in Swedish and I'll stop playing Abba on my in-flight CD player."
I think that the gripen is the best looking aircraft ever
Your Gripen aircraft is the most beautiful in the world.
SOLD!......Where do I send the cheque 💶
I really really like your aircraft the SAAB JAS-39 Gripen is a lightweight and marvelous aircraft. Being able to do so much, if my fictional nation were to be real surely you guys would be on the contracts list
I wish more Western-allied countries operated Gripen. I hope it's not too late for more countries to buy in.