Nascar Bans Ford’s Better Ideas - 1957 Ford F Code Paxton Supercharged Sedan

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2021
  • Does nascar hate Innovation or only Ford
    It 1987 and the Simpsons debuted, but the bigger news is that Bill Elliot set the one lap record at Talladega. How do Nascar reward his accomplishment? restrictive plates!
    1969 - Woodstock just happens , Richard petty drives a Ford … Mopar has cars with massive wings and aero before it was a thing … but also Ford produces a hemi - which dominate the track… but to in the name of fairness … by 1973 nacasr decides to limits size to 358… coincidental the size of a bored out sbc
    1965 - Ford develops a little monster called the 427 SOHC. Ford thinks that putting the cam on top of the head might work better . … nascar immediately sees this as far to exotic and bans OHC forever. Remember folks a harbor frieht predator motor is ohc and they cost about a nickel.
    But the one that really scared the snot outta them was this little strange looking blower… Yep you probably never seen one that looks like this, but this is now a common power adder…and Nascar banned it …. Forever
    Let’s take. Look at the car that struck fear into nascent and started the decent of the sport to today’s sticker headlights nothing stock about a stock car reality … it’s time to look at the original intimidator - the 1957 Ford f code
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    #1957
    #ford
    #supercharged
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  • @sergeantmasson3669
    @sergeantmasson3669 2 роки тому +33

    Bill France Sr banned superchargers and turbochargers. Also banned all OHC engines. Later NASCAR banned all hemi engines as well.

    • @robertfager7028
      @robertfager7028 Рік тому +2

      They also banned superbirds

    • @sergeantmasson3669
      @sergeantmasson3669 Рік тому

      @@robertfager7028 Superturds could no longer compete after 1970 season.

    • @kknight4189
      @kknight4189 Рік тому +3

      @@sergeantmasson3669 actually the Superbird was only allowed to compete in 1970.. where it won almost 40% of all the races.. give me any car that wins that much and I'll drive it

    • @sergeantmasson3669
      @sergeantmasson3669 Рік тому +2

      @@kknight4189 The Ford "aero" cars did better overall without a wing. The NASCAR Chrysler "aero" cars were '69-'70. They ran in 1971 also but smaller CID engines.

    • @kknight4189
      @kknight4189 Рік тому +1

      @@sergeantmasson3669 the Plymouth Superbird and the Dodge Daytona were classified as an "aero" car with a 426 ci engine, while the Ford Talladega, Torino we're powered by a 427 or 429 boss.. so basically that's apples compared to Apples.. the wing was added to keep the car from becoming airborne.. merely a safety Factor

  • @podamis314
    @podamis314 2 роки тому +25

    The 55 to 57 ford style is the most perfect to my mind of any passenger car. And coupled to a Ford 427 it was so fast. Thanks for teaching us about this supercharger model.

  • @boataxe4605
    @boataxe4605 2 роки тому +153

    NASCAR Went from “That’s too much like a race car” to running pure race cars. And they wonder why ratings have gone down and they are losing sponsors.

    • @sorshiaemms5959
      @sorshiaemms5959 2 роки тому +12

      can t say it any better

    • @tgerman569
      @tgerman569 2 роки тому +27

      When they dropped the rule of making 500 cars as race ready in Production models, the Stock Car racing was over. It became Cubic Dollars over Cubic Inches,

    • @jimolson8424
      @jimolson8424 2 роки тому +23

      NASCAR SUCKS......

    • @rconger384
      @rconger384 2 роки тому +18

      Let's go Brandon!

    • @badgeswedontneednostinking5571
      @badgeswedontneednostinking5571 2 роки тому +18

      Thats when I stopped watching nascar, when they mandated restrictor plates for all cars but let chevy change the body style/ back window on the race cars to keep up. It killed them cause bill elliot was embarrassing the rest of the field at daytona. I haven't watched their bull$hit for over 30 years, yet I never used to miss a race when I was young.

  • @branon6565
    @branon6565 2 роки тому +112

    I love how hard that Ford pulls every time he grabs a gear, the front end comes up and the motor sounds angry....heeerrreee chevy chevy chevy.....lol

    • @BFTEgodswarrio5939
      @BFTEgodswarrio5939 2 роки тому +5

      My 69 camaro would answer with what you want bitch! Or my 86 camaro 454 n/a 4.90 ⅛ mile would slap that Ford around all day long

    • @pyrodon5773
      @pyrodon5773 2 роки тому +11

      @@BFTEgodswarrio5939 yeah and my 70 maverick with a little 302 would make you cry like the last dude with a crappie 454 .

    • @nessie42786
      @nessie42786 2 роки тому +1

      @@pyrodon5773 i’d like to see that. Line ‘em up. Place your bets.

    • @BFTEgodswarrio5939
      @BFTEgodswarrio5939 2 роки тому

      @@pyrodon5773 hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha yeah fcuk a 302 ain't no fcukin way and talking about a piece of crap engine that is why every mustang on the street or strip. Jerk them paper weights out and install a real engine in them a ls. 302 making any power you done lost your ever loving mind you never had.

    • @cashitup3752
      @cashitup3752 2 роки тому

      Lamborghini would destroy all yall muscle cars

  • @markthegunplumber8376
    @markthegunplumber8376 2 роки тому +28

    Dad had a 1963 Studebaker Avanti with the Paxton Super Charger and the Studebaker 289 he said it liked the taste of Corvettes. A car way way ahead of it's time.

    • @tomrobards7753
      @tomrobards7753 Рік тому +3

      They had Paxton super chargers on 1953 or 1954 Studebakers also

    • @gerrywood3584
      @gerrywood3584 4 місяці тому

      Nerd car now

    • @bigglilwayne7050
      @bigglilwayne7050 3 дні тому

      Studebaker were fine automobiles that didn't deserve the fate that awaited them

  • @b58hustler71
    @b58hustler71 2 роки тому +61

    The first car I ever really loved was a 57 Ford. I was 6 when they were new, and the styling and stance just looked perfect to my eye. Still does. 57 T-bird, same thing. Even plain jane and satin paint, it looks great. Never knew the history of the supercharger. That makes it even greater and more iconic to me. Thanks.

    • @johnkendall6962
      @johnkendall6962 2 роки тому +10

      Whats funny is if someone says something about a 55-57 Chevy. Most people have an idea what they look like 55-57 Fords get a blank, stare most people don't have a clue. During that time Ford actually out sold Chevy. PS The car I thought was the best looking was the 56 Ford Fairlane.

    • @b58hustler71
      @b58hustler71 2 роки тому +2

      @@johnkendall6962 yeah John I liked them too, especially the Crown Vics with the glass tops. But the 56 was kind of chunky looking. The 57 was long, sleek and low. It was simple styling. It just looks right from any angle. 57 was a great year for all car makers. There are so many, I like them all. Built models of lots of them as a kid. 57 Sunliner! Come on! That was the coolest! 56 looks like it ate too many potatoes.🤮😁

    • @douggray5320
      @douggray5320 2 роки тому

      Bunny

    • @scootergeorge9576
      @scootergeorge9576 2 роки тому +2

      - I once owned a 1957 Ford Ranchero 300, deluxe with 292 stick shift and overdrive. I added the overdrive because of the steep 3.89 rear axle ratio. The 0.7 to one overdrive added about 6 MPG on the highway. But to be honest with you, I think the '56 styling was better.

    • @timothyhead1832
      @timothyhead1832 2 роки тому +2

      My first car when I was in high school
      Was a 58 Fairlane with the cove chrome molding I loved that car it had a 292 v8

  • @peterb121
    @peterb121 2 роки тому +138

    The funny thing is even in Australia, when the Ford's do well in what ever category, they will be penalized or restricted in some form or another. This has happened for decades.

    • @extremecheddarswityomom
      @extremecheddarswityomom 2 роки тому +22

      It's called jealousy gm will pay the people off to make a rule against whatever ford does different.

    • @brocluno01
      @brocluno01 2 роки тому +11

      Yup. Always did, always will until they go bankrupt ...

    • @skeezix8156
      @skeezix8156 2 роки тому +11

      I’m a ford guy but I’ve listened to my mopar friends talk about nascars treatment of them over the decades. When they went to a 355 ci limit it was too obvious. Dodge had a 360 and a 340 at the time.

    • @robertholderman7552
      @robertholderman7552 2 роки тому

      @@brocluno01 : NeWs is That it’s not far away !!!! No joke..
      and no wonder ..

    • @kuiper6926
      @kuiper6926 2 роки тому +1

      Hahahahahah I guess that's what happens when your engineer doesn't know how to read and gets over the rules. GM and Chrysler's tho? Barely got banned, like the Hemi did for a certain period. But you know, if you aren't wrong you aren't going to be penalized. Although you guys love to cry about the Cammer being banned from Nascar. The funniest of the facts is: THERE ARE NO OVERHEAD CAMMED ENGINE TILL THIS DAY AND YOU STILL COMPLAIN ABOUT SABOTAGE LMAO

  • @rogerhislip5269
    @rogerhislip5269 2 роки тому +40

    We had a local legend drag racer always running Fords. He got tired of being torn down after winning and he finally said why just my fords-- The answer- Fords don’t run that fast. He never was found illegally equipped. Ever!

  • @richb.4374
    @richb.4374 2 роки тому +111

    People actually still watch Nascar? Too many rules changes ruined the sport.

    • @robertheinkel6225
      @robertheinkel6225 2 роки тому +7

      It used to be more about the cars, but now it is all about the drivers.

    • @MrBluecollar8
      @MrBluecollar8 2 роки тому +17

      @@robertheinkel6225 It's all about the sponsers.It's just one big commercial.

    • @TheMotorgoat1
      @TheMotorgoat1 2 роки тому +15

      Nascar went "woke". It's the worst thing that can happen to anyone.

    • @garymckee448
      @garymckee448 2 роки тому +11

      Not worth watching anymore 😉

    • @todiathink8864
      @todiathink8864 2 роки тому +6

      SPOT-ON! They lost me when they put the last generation Thunderbird on the chopping block!

  • @rogerward3185
    @rogerward3185 2 роки тому +28

    The thing that occurred to me when you started talking about "1957 technology" was that such things as racing help push technology forward. I wonder where we would be in terms of performance, both in power, longevity and efficiency if NASCAR didn't hate Ford.

  • @drakefallentine8351
    @drakefallentine8351 2 роки тому +10

    I have always admired the styling of the '57 Fords. Just a well balanced no frills machine. Great back story about this Gem. Thanx!

  • @joemeatball1080
    @joemeatball1080 2 роки тому +12

    I've been into high performance my whole life (50 years old) Granted, I'm not big into Ford. But this is the 1st time I've ever seen or even knew about factory supercharged cars from them. Fascinating stuff and that's a beautiful car. Thanks for sharing!!!

  • @andyvonyeast332
    @andyvonyeast332 2 роки тому +11

    That is the coolest 1957 Ford that I’ve ever seen. It is built just like I love, low trim level, dog dishes, just perfect!

  • @owatajrkiam
    @owatajrkiam 2 роки тому +21

    My black primered 57' Custom looked exactly like this one. However...it was powered by a 69' 428 SCJ w/4spd and 9" running gear out of a totaled 69' Mustang back in the late 70's. Fun car. This ones a beauty and SUPER rare!

    • @195048
      @195048 2 роки тому +4

      I had a 57 Custom 300 2dr. While I owned it from 67-72 it was powered by a 272, a 406/405 and finally a 1970 429 SCJ 375 hp. 57 chevies were my favorite victims. Got married and ended up selling the car. If I had known how things were going to turn out I would have kept the car and shitcanned her ass.

    • @kramnull8962
      @kramnull8962 2 роки тому +1

      @@195048 Here in the NC area we had several Holman Moody FE's floating around. One was a 406 tri power that had a H/M 3/4 race cam. The other was a 427 single 4bbl that had a H/M cam as well. The 406 started out in a 40 Ford and then to a 56 F100 with a 4 speed mounted to it. Would raise the front wheels off the ground in either.
      The 427 was in a 57 Ford with a 3 on the tree. Sad thing was, neither could keep low gear in the transmission. But they would still pin the nose in the air in second...
      There was a H/M prepared 352 that a guy had built and put it in a 56 Ford. The picture I saw was of about a quarter of a mile of pasture fence totally downed as well as a phone pole that was about mid ways in the same line of pasture fence... Knocked down several hundred feet of fence then the pole then more fence.

    • @dustymojave
      @dustymojave Рік тому

      I have a 61 F100 Integral Cab (some mistakenly call them "unibody") with a 428CJ out of a 70 Cougar Eliminator and a C6 trans to the original 9" rear. I built it that way in 1977.

  • @arnostruwig9634
    @arnostruwig9634 2 роки тому +21

    Never should have sold my 57. My dad had one and was the only Ford of the many he had that brought tears to his eyes when he spoke about it. He would refer to it as the "Blue Ford" be blue and white two tone. A 57 looks like its doing 120mph standing still. It's not a car, cars don't have a a heart beat. And that's what a 57 had.....

  • @CoyoteFTW
    @CoyoteFTW 2 роки тому +21

    57’ Thunderbird called “battle bird“ modified for
    Ford by Peter De Paolo Engineering in Long Beach, California, to compete in the 1957 Daytona Speed Weeks events. The cars were heavily modified, with aluminum skins for hoods, doors, trunk lids and custom tonneau covers. Engines were moved lower and further back in the chassis, suspensions were strengthened and four-speed Jaguar transmissions were used. With a supercharged Ford 312 cubic-inch V-8, this car was clocked at over 200 mph, but mechanical problems prevented a second run, eliminating the mandatory averaging of two runs to determine an official speed. With a quick change of engine, the car then competed in an airport road race in New Smyrna, just north of Daytona. Driven by Marvin Panch, the car beat the Corvettes in the race, which was its mandate, but finished second to Carrol Shelby in a 4.9 Ferrari. A racing ban by the Automobile Manufacturers Association of its members was soon instituted, ending the car's racing career after one race. Today let’s hope the Cobra Jets don’t get banned in NHRA factory stock since they’re easily out running the competition.

    • @keithstudly6071
      @keithstudly6071 2 роки тому

      According to Smokey Yunick one of De Paolo's cars won a NASCAR race after the ban and then forfeited because he wouldn't let tech inspectors look under the hood. OOps! Supercharger!

    • @peterolsen3797
      @peterolsen3797 2 роки тому

      Excuse me but FACTORY Stock classes in NHRA mustangs running 170mph, something is fishy with the Idea of Cobra Jets being banned. Maybe different classes, but why is Chrysler's banned from racing in the NHRA factory stock classes?

  • @RSDX99
    @RSDX99 2 роки тому +51

    I have been a NASCAR fan since the 50's because it is one of the racing venues where Ford has been able to compete and win on a regular basis that is until the General or To-Jo says they are too fast and something has to be done to slow them down. The Ford Cleveland of Elliott and Robert Yates was chocked down with restrictors until the General came out with their own staggered valve head with the SB2. NASCAR will never allow Fords to dominate again as long as Rick Hendrick has something to say about it. When Jeff Gordon was hired by Rick Hendrick he asked if they would be building Ford cars and Hendrick told him he does not own any Ford dealerships. Jeff was driving a Ford in the Bush series when he got Hendricks's attention.

    • @sorshiaemms5959
      @sorshiaemms5959 2 роки тому +22

      why im not a nascar fan anymore

    • @289cobra9
      @289cobra9 2 роки тому +3

      🎯🎯🎯

    • @minnesota_fats7344
      @minnesota_fats7344 2 роки тому +4

      NASCAR has become a venue for pussies. You know what I can't even say that cuz pussies are cool More like it's become a venue for lame sheltered people that don't want fun in their lives.

    • @richardstorie229
      @richardstorie229 2 роки тому

      The big Daytona news, nascar has a mini van division.

    • @marksmith7054
      @marksmith7054 2 роки тому +1

      Nascar is a JOKE with all the speed restrictions on the cars, is it a Race or Ring around the Rosie, the fastest car and best driver should win not who can last the longest in the race.

  • @thanniss
    @thanniss 2 роки тому +5

    Nascar used to be about innovation. Now it's the we all get medals sport.

  • @paulgibson359
    @paulgibson359 Рік тому +4

    Love the car. My first car in 1963 in HS was a 1955 2dr customeline Ford with a 57 312ci Tbird motor with 3speed on the floor, and had gas cap cut-out dumps. Was a blast to drive in HS. Also another good Ford memory. My dad bought a 57Ford new with the 312ci motor with 2 4-barrel carbs. My current hope is live long enough to see my dream build. I plan to buy the new gas 7.3 liter Godzilla motor, and put it in s earlier ford, maybe a Ranchero or 72 Torino. Also in consideration is the big fin 57 Lincoln. And one last thought, I once owned a 62 corvette that had a 70 LT1 350 motor in it. I would consider building a 7.3 ford powered 62 Corvette. Absolute karma for all the hotrodders that have put small block Chevys in older Fords. Again loved that great 57 Ford

  • @johnudonn4309
    @johnudonn4309 2 роки тому +21

    Great job opening people's eyes on the world of fast ford's,I'm a proud owner of a 57 Fairlane 500! I

  • @gurneyforpresident2836
    @gurneyforpresident2836 2 роки тому +48

    So glad I found you.
    Great history here. I remember when
    Bill Elliott set the lap record and Nascar's response. Really sucked but that's what they always did to innovations from Ford so it was not surprising.
    I am 100% a Ford man so more of this please. Own several.
    Homologated.....
    Ha-Mal-La-Gate-Ed 😊

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 2 роки тому +3

      Are you sure the whole restrictor plate mess wasn't because that weekend Bobby Allison almost met some fans in the stands up close and personal, while still strapped into his race car?

    • @ONTHEEDGEFRED
      @ONTHEEDGEFRED 2 роки тому +3

      I was a huge Bill Elliott fan, but, I have to admit, too, I believe it had more to do with Bobby Allison about going out into the stands in his car. Of course by the same token I also believe that nascar has been biased towards GM products for a long time too.

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 2 роки тому

      @@ONTHEEDGEFRED Well, given that Chrysler and Ford would ever only field two makes (early modern era, not talking about the 50's and early 60's here) and AMC was solo, GM... with BOP and Chevrolet, they could definitely hold a little more sway.

    • @ONTHEEDGEFRED
      @ONTHEEDGEFRED 2 роки тому +3

      @@mfree80286 While I did say GM I meant to say more or less Chevrolet. Though they may have been caught off guard, I'm surprised General Motors allowed Buick and Oldsmobile to design the cars that they did in the late seventies and early eighties with the so more aerodynamic bodies than the Chevrolets at the time. Chevrolet has always had to pull with nascar.

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 2 роки тому +1

      @@outdoorfun8780 **facepalm**
      It is now, but it wasn't then. That's the point.

  • @chrissmith6827
    @chrissmith6827 2 роки тому +4

    1987 the restrictor plate came about because Bobby Allison almost ended up in the stands at Talladega. No one could run with Bill Elliot's Ford.

  • @dbs555
    @dbs555 2 роки тому +4

    Best sleeper I've seen in years.
    Love the second gear tire chirping.

  • @jeffreybrianring6392
    @jeffreybrianring6392 Рік тому +4

    They made two 57 Rancheros with the supercharger, one black one maroon. They are both in the brothers car collection in Salem Oregon. Thanks for the upload was very interesting, I loved how the black 57 would blow the tires off, even going at least 20 mph and then blowing them off in second gear also. Made my day.

    • @bigglilwayne7050
      @bigglilwayne7050 3 дні тому

      The 57 Ranchero is the most beautiful car ever made IMO

  • @davidhofman4341
    @davidhofman4341 2 роки тому +2

    My father was service manager at an Eastern Pa. Ford Dealer. For 55, 56, and 57 he bought a new 2 door station wagon ever year. The 57 had a 312 Thunderbird Special. My dad always said " it will pass anything, but a gas pump". The rear end ratio was not for highway driving. I remember helping my dad taking a differential out of a passenger car in the dealership's junk yard. He said it did not help. He blocked the second two barrels from coming open. I remember helping him overhaul the engine at 42,000 miles because the wrist pin clip came out and scored the cylinder. He had the cylinder sleeved. Overhaul finished we headed for Neb.

  • @patrickshaw8595
    @patrickshaw8595 2 роки тому +7

    A little higher production effort than usual on UA-cam car videos.
    But that's nothing - it's a really really cool car and hat's off to it's owner.
    Thanks for posting.

  • @351nang
    @351nang 2 роки тому +10

    A great car. Who would not want to own that?

  • @mustang6984
    @mustang6984 2 роки тому +13

    Great. Something else for me to now want to add to my 57 collection Yer killin' me guys...LOL!!! I will probably start looking around for a 57 Paxton charged ride...I'll tell the wife you guys MADE me do it!!! 😁

    • @dissrepair
      @dissrepair  2 роки тому +3

      We will take the fall for you! A Paxton is still cheaper than marriage counseling! 😂

    • @mustang6984
      @mustang6984 2 роки тому +5

      @@dissrepair LOL!!! Oh...she was warned before she married me. I had been single for 20 years and had a collection then. I have bought a few more since. Thirty years have gone by...she's used to it...sorta...well...mostly...I mean...yea you know.

  • @sactodan
    @sactodan Рік тому +1

    In 1957 I traveled cross-country, from San Diego to Fort Smith, Arkansas, in one of these supercharged Fords with a guy who's father was a Ford dealer and gave it to him as 21st birthday present. His twin sister got non-supercharged, but otherwise identical, car. He was getting out of the Navy in San Diego and I shagged a ride with him to visit my grandparents in Arkansas, along with a couple of other guys. We made the trip in about 20 hours, stopping only for gas and food in those non-freeway days. At one point, he opened it up all the day and we did 50 miles in about 20 minutes, later raced a guy in 57 Chevy from Muskogee, OK, to Fort Smith. Crazy stuff.

  • @brocluno01
    @brocluno01 2 роки тому +14

    Was messing with this stuff back in the day. Rare and hard to get, even back then. Nice to see a well sorted survivor 😊
    My cousin said it was too much money, so he stuffed a 383/TqFlyte out of a wrecked police car into his 57 2-door. I stayed with the Y blocks because they grunt so well on the street. Gotta wind a Chevy.
    The blower was added to overcome the smaller stacked ports on the Y block heads. Now days you can get South American Y Block heads that flow as well as any SBC factory stuff ...

    • @MilkMan608
      @MilkMan608 2 роки тому

      Gotta port 'em first to remove the cocaine so they'll flow.

    • @frankrice6695
      @frankrice6695 Рік тому

      Or aluminum heads by John Mummery in El Cajon California.

  • @terraboundmisfit
    @terraboundmisfit 2 роки тому +4

    Awesome car and video! Don't forget the weight penalty that the NHRA imposed on the prostock Fords in the early 70"s because of their Cleveland cylinder heads.

  • @frankrice6695
    @frankrice6695 Рік тому +3

    Pat is one of the best sources of information on these cars There is a fairly large group of folks restoring or building these cars. I'm one of them. I raced my F code for about 20 years in the Pure Stock Drag Races in Michigan. Never saw one of the infamous 57 Chevy " Fuilies " that would supposedly scare me away. I did hear a lot of talk from stunned Chevy afindios

  • @DavidSmith-fs4nt
    @DavidSmith-fs4nt 2 роки тому +5

    Love the 57 Fords. We had a 57 with the 289? and a 57 Mercury Turnpike Cruiser with the 312. That Merc would eat up tires like nothing. It was my Mom's favorite car. My brother inherited the Ford as a teenager and wrecked it in the early 60s drag racing a 327 Chevy. I'd love to have either one today, especially the Merc.

    • @bbrut3332
      @bbrut3332 Рік тому

      You mean a 292 ci Y block I am sure. My first car was a 58 Ford Custom 300 with the 292 and a Fordomatic.

  • @jamien.8639
    @jamien.8639 2 роки тому +6

    The restrictor plate was brought on because of the `1987 Talladega crash where Boddy Allison car right rear tire blew and sent the car flying towards the front stretch grandstands ripping the catch fence and sending parts of the car into the crowd. Not because they were trying to slow Bill or the other fords down. This is coming from a diehard Ford and Bill Elliott guy.

    • @randycoursey7230
      @randycoursey7230 Рік тому

      Do you always believe everything you're told? There are many examples here of Ford innovation that got banned by NASCAR. And for your information cars were still flying off the ground and in the catch fences even with restrictor plates and the small block engines. I can recall Brad Keselowski slamming into the back of Carl Edwards car in the final turn at Talladega as Edwards was leading the race. Edwards flew right into the catch fence.

  • @jst4curiosity704
    @jst4curiosity704 Рік тому +2

    Really enjoyed learning that Ford had this 1957 monster engine performance, years before others.

  • @LANESxNOWONLYx
    @LANESxNOWONLYx 2 роки тому +7

    My Dad, Uncles, & Grandfather were always FoMoCo men. This video explains one of the many reasons why they were. Ford was often way ahead of the game in racing innovations, & this is the way they were treated. Historical facts show us who was on top of the heap, First On Race Day. Then sell those Fords on Monday! Go Away NASCAR, & take your decades of petty rules with you!

    • @amazin1827
      @amazin1827 2 роки тому

      Do you know about the long rod Windsor and M 400's?.. It seems LS copied that technology some time later and still don't have canted valves..

  • @normansilver905
    @normansilver905 2 роки тому +12

    There were '57 Ford 300 sedans on the Drag Strips with the 312 in dual quyd carbureted and also a single 4 barrel version with the Paxton Super Charger. Two of the Paxton equipped cars ran at the LADS Strip in the LA area. One had a name "Blowin in the Wind." Both were fast 1/4 mile cars.

    • @normansilver905
      @normansilver905 2 роки тому

      @anonymous Full 1480 1/4 mile an frequently saw high 12 second range. There was one with dual quads that would sometimes get near that number too.

  • @barnanimal30
    @barnanimal30 2 роки тому +4

    What a magnificent car, it just epitomizes the word Cool....

  • @sergeantmasson3669
    @sergeantmasson3669 2 роки тому +2

    I have a black '57 Ford Custom 2dr sedan like the car in this video. I bought it back in November of '69 for $75. It had a 292 V8 engine and 3 speed manual transmission. By springtime 1970, it had a de-stroked Ford 427 engine and Ford top-loader 4 speed manual transmission. I drag raced the car for several years in NHRA in 3 different classes and did well with it. I still have the car and re-furbished it 3 years ago. It's still street legal and driven often during warm weather months. Memorial Day weekend 2021 I raced it again at New England Dragway in Epping NH. Two 10.1's and two 9.87's.

  • @todiathink8864
    @todiathink8864 2 роки тому +6

    The 427 SOHC was banned before it even turned a lap!

    • @johneckert1365
      @johneckert1365 Рік тому

      It was never offered in a production car. That's why.

  • @thomaszaccone3960
    @thomaszaccone3960 2 роки тому +7

    I wish I owned it! Awesome!

  • @sorshiaemms5959
    @sorshiaemms5959 2 роки тому +7

    57 FORD WITH A 312 IS ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITE FORDS AND THE SUPERCHARGER MAKES IT ALL THAT MORE EXCITING AND YA NASCAR DOESN T LIKE FORD THATS WHY THEY CHANGE THE RULES ON THEM AND THATS WHY I DON T WATCH THEM ANY MORE EVERY THINGS SO FIXED NOW DAYS

  • @minnesotatomcat
    @minnesotatomcat 2 роки тому +5

    There’s just something about any car that came out of the fifties that makes it instantly recognizable as a 50s car, it’s like all the manufacturers got together and said, ok so they all gotta look kinda alike.

  • @extremecheddarswityomom
    @extremecheddarswityomom 2 роки тому +1

    That black paint with the dog dish wheels makes the car mean looking and the y block sounds matches the look. Cant beat the sound of a ford v8

  • @HotRodReverend
    @HotRodReverend 2 роки тому +7

    Great video guys and thanks for posting!

  • @radtek2
    @radtek2 6 місяців тому +1

    I just found this post. I'm nearing 80 years old and was a Ford man from the get go . I started building Flatheads when I was 15 , my pops own a wrecking yard and auto repair shop, so I had an up on most because of that. I of course knew about that super charged Ford. I built my first real fast rod with a 312 out of a wrecked 57 station wagon. I took it down, did a .40 over bore, Crane Cam, Headwork done by a buddy of my Dad a machinist who raced dirt track, 4 Barrel Holley, 4:11 rear, and put it into a light 54 2dr. post Ford Mainline. Could not l keep a tranny in it. So went the Ford dealer got an 63 and 1/2 all synchro 3 speed stuck a racing clutch in it and that baby was very quick If there are any Chevy guys from around Tacoma/Puyallup WA in 1961 to 1964 we might have met at a stop light or two.

  • @Slimjim260
    @Slimjim260 2 роки тому +2

    Original steering wheel, and 4 speed,, beautiful it’s perfect!

  • @CarlosReyes-el3oj
    @CarlosReyes-el3oj 2 роки тому +8

    Ford. 👍👏👏👏👏👏👏🇲🇽

  • @billfeld5883
    @billfeld5883 2 роки тому +2

    I've been a 1957 Ford fan for years and that is a fantastic example of why!!!! 2022

  • @edge2sword186
    @edge2sword186 2 роки тому +22

    Bill France never banned the Chevy Mystery engine in Jr. Johnson's car that was never produced as an option but rather was limited to about 25 engines .The 1969 Mustang that Ohio George raced with a Boss 429 and twin Turbo's was banned by the NHRA because it smoked the competition in every race it ever entered

    • @sorshiaemms5959
      @sorshiaemms5959 2 роки тому +4

      that s a fact NASCAR also did not allow FORD to run the tall WINDSOR deck size in the 80 s when they switched from the CLEVELAND S

    • @jerryw6699
      @jerryw6699 2 роки тому +2

      They didn't have to, they pretty much gave up after a few disasters.

  • @1957kwick
    @1957kwick 2 роки тому +3

    I've always liked these cars I have a 57 Ford Ranchero myself. At a young age my neighbor up the street had a 57 sedan gasser that was black straight axle and everything I said someday. I had to wait 45 years to get one it was either sedan or The Ranchero I found a really nice Ranchero mine's a 411 posi with a T5 5-speed 390 not quite finished yet but getting there thanks for educating everybody on Ford history.🇺🇲

    • @bad74maverick1
      @bad74maverick1 2 роки тому +1

      I have a 1960 Ranchero with a 66 Mustang running gear. 289 4bbl green dot C4 and a mustang II rear end. My grandfather built it out of parts in his car shop and gave it to me for graduation.

  • @bobyoung1698
    @bobyoung1698 2 роки тому +5

    That's nice! I'll confess, my first car was a 1957 Chevy with the PowerPacked heads option. It was quick but nothing like this one. If I recall, Chevrolet offered an Eaton supercharger option on the 283 and 327 engines on some 1957 models. That would make for an interesting match race.

    • @jeromebreeding3302
      @jeromebreeding3302 2 роки тому +2

      Ford Y-block engines, often referred to as"boat anchors",can really shine today due to increased interest and after-market support from the likes of Mummert Co.,and others.

  • @hotrodford4274
    @hotrodford4274 2 роки тому +6

    Great !

  • @planefloat
    @planefloat 2 роки тому +2

    I'd go with my dad in his lunch truck to the Ford plant in Somerville , Massachusetts, early in the morning. I could see the '57 Ford's rolling off the assembly line. Later, working at a gas station, I just missed z seeing and Paxton equipped Ford gassing up. They were very rare in the northeast.....Even today, I prefer the '57 Ford Fairlane, two door hardtop, over the looks of the '57 Chevy Bel Air. Queasyrider

  • @140corvairbuggy5
    @140corvairbuggy5 2 роки тому +33

    NASCAR banned the 351 Cleveland 4 barrel head engines(1970-19740. They ran 2.19 valves, but NASCAR let Ford run the 2 barrel heads with 2.08 valves. 351 Cleveland closed chambered heads produced more horsepower than any other engine in history. Thus let's ban it from racing. Fords run a 1997 conventional small block in NASCAR today, not a cammer engine or Coyote. The Bodine brothers in 1998 qualified 4th with a cammer engine and NASCAR banned the car. Steve Saleen built his P7 race car around a 351 Clevor, Cleveland heads on a 351 Windsor block, because the oiling passages were better, and Chevy had the car penalized by adding weight. Chevy complained in 2015 and 16 about the new Ford GT's, so FIA restricted the boots and added up to 180 pounds of weight, per race, to slow them down. I have not heard FIA adding weight to the new mid engine C8 Corvettes. Surprising to hear Chevy complain a lot.

    • @michaelraddish7898
      @michaelraddish7898 2 роки тому +3

      Tell the top fuel racers about those best heads so they can replace those crummy hemi heads

    • @amazin1827
      @amazin1827 2 роки тому +2

      I like the M400 with the Aussie 2v's. On a C6 in my 56 F100🇺🇸👍

    • @larrylund2682
      @larrylund2682 2 роки тому +3

      How about just banning Nascar and create Ford Racing... We don't need nasty.

    • @makattak3550
      @makattak3550 Рік тому +1

      @@michaelraddish7898 The Clevland came out with canted valves! Guess who copied their design?
      Chev did. From that point onwards, chevs big blocks had canted valves. This = a dominant Ford victory.

    • @craigolson9258
      @craigolson9258 5 місяців тому

      ​@@makattak3550Sorry to disappoint, but Chev had canted valves long before the Cleveland or 385 series

  • @marcosmartinez6380
    @marcosmartinez6380 2 роки тому +1

    This explains a lot!! People that don’t like ford, don’t just not like them, they hate it!!!
    Fords been kicking ass since day 1 🏁🏁

  • @colinpate3059
    @colinpate3059 2 роки тому +32

    NHRA is as bad when it comes to ruling against Ford's. They changed Pro Stock because of Bob Gliddons and the other Cleveland cars total dominance of the class. Since then the class couldn't be more boring. They should call it pro Camaro.You watch, they'll do the same to factory stock to stop the Cobra Jets. NASCAR has frustrated me for years with it's ruling against Ford's when they show any dominance. It's as if they see GM dominance as the natural order of things and rules must change if they are not. One of my favorite Ford's is the 57. My Father had a custom 300 with a 292. I can see the look of joy on his face when he would take me out to a country road and get on it. I remember the sound it made when he'd pull the air cleaner off. That was a long time ago.

    • @99unclebob
      @99unclebob 2 роки тому +1

      Nascar and NHRA are bunch of fuck wods any ways

    • @kevinshiley9061
      @kevinshiley9061 2 роки тому

      @@99unclebob wads?

  • @carrtb
    @carrtb 2 роки тому +1

    @7:21, Pat’s cool, calm and collected. Dan, I’ll just say you looked a bit nervous: The FACE! What a fun video. Packed with info, sure enjoyed the history of banned “substances”.

  • @nishafleischman4573
    @nishafleischman4573 2 роки тому +6

    Great video!

  • @chadhosmer9357
    @chadhosmer9357 2 роки тому +1

    What a great video! I never realized that back in 1957 Ford put a super charger on some of there cars. My 99 Cobra had the double overhead cams 32 valve 4.6 liter V8. What a great engine!

  • @rgs4x
    @rgs4x 2 роки тому +5

    What would have been cool if an F code was available a F100 pickup.

    • @195048
      @195048 2 роки тому

      It was available in the F100. I don't know if anybody ordered one that way. The 312 Supercharged was available in any car or pickup.

  • @ablemarine9072
    @ablemarine9072 Рік тому

    57 fords My favorite Forever! Had several of them into the late 80s two door wagons rancheros 300 coupes 2 door wagons sunliner fairlanes and woodies, sold collection in mid eighties! What a mistake. Still my favorite to date now it's Ford f series bump sides! Super Nice Car you have Sir!!! Makes me sigh and smile at the good old days! Glad I saw your chanel. Nice!

  • @kurtoelmann1714
    @kurtoelmann1714 2 роки тому +1

    Great video- thanks for posting.

  • @gibsondrummer
    @gibsondrummer 2 роки тому +5

    So the takeaway is that GM is paying off NASCAR to sandbag ford and mopar technology advances
    Fords supercharger , gone
    Fords ohc , gone
    Fords hemi big block , gone
    Mopar wing cars , gone
    Mopar hemi 426 , gone
    GM
    Happy

  • @robertnull1644
    @robertnull1644 2 роки тому +5

    Did you ever notice the speedometer registers 130. It starts at 10 , but count from 0 and see what you get.

    • @charlesf4428
      @charlesf4428 2 роки тому +2

      Same with the '58s..my Dads 58 Interceptor 300 would bury the needle!!

    • @robertnull1644
      @robertnull1644 2 роки тому +2

      Had a 58 back in 1967 that would do the same.

  • @husqv5147
    @husqv5147 2 роки тому +16

    NASCAR ruined the sport of auto racing. But that's fine, they are on their way out, people have had enough of their stupidity.

  • @mangoMango-ck3et
    @mangoMango-ck3et 2 роки тому +2

    What a beautiful car,, that 57 Ford is,,,

  • @radioguy1620
    @radioguy1620 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the great video and the car owner sure knows his stuff.

  • @racer72
    @racer72 2 роки тому +2

    I had a 57 Fairlane 4 door sedan many years ago. Someone had put a newer 352 in it. Unfortunately, it had a 2 speed automatic. Drove that car 150 miles a day back and forth to work for over a year. Sold it to a guy to convert to a police car replica.

  • @jeffcarpenter396
    @jeffcarpenter396 2 роки тому +3

    This car is really neat

  • @Sojourning_
    @Sojourning_ 2 роки тому +4

    I use to love to watch the race, But' Something ten years back things changed so much I no longer pay any attention to Nascar, Right after Dale died, it tanked. any more now as an old man, I see it as chasing the wind. I look to the LORD.

  • @thomasmixson7064
    @thomasmixson7064 2 роки тому +1

    Grandmire drove Packards and later Caddys, but in '57 she had a Fairlane 500...she lived on the high plains of the Texas Panhandle, and on those lonely roads she didn't play...and her "Fairlane Susie" often saw speeds greater than a hundred

  • @lylespeed2821
    @lylespeed2821 Рік тому

    In 1970 I bought a 56 ford with 312 with the paxton supercharger was 16 at the time it ran 13.3 @103 in the quarter mile clocked @@148mph lost my license for 3 months loved that car the supercharger came off a tbird

  • @breakawaymotorsports
    @breakawaymotorsports 2 роки тому +8

    LOVE your car. Nascar is all about conformity nowadays.Rules,fines and regulations. Kind of like the government. But I digress. Sweet 57!!!

  • @davidhughes4728
    @davidhughes4728 Рік тому

    I have a 69 428 super cold yet limited edition one with special ordered is very fast really love the video man keep up the good work just thought I would share that

  • @keith989
    @keith989 2 роки тому

    What a wonderful car thanks for the history lesson. Never knew this about my favorite manufacturer.

  • @extremecheddarswityomom
    @extremecheddarswityomom 2 роки тому +2

    I'd love to have one of those f code station wagons.

  • @johnjohnsn7633
    @johnjohnsn7633 2 роки тому +3

    Be sure to look up the 1957 Parham, Payne and McDaniels 'Osage Yellow Hoss' supercharged 312 ... which existed in both sedan and wagon iterations.

  • @bandpassmess
    @bandpassmess Рік тому

    Dang that was MACHINE
    Love how grabs the gears ⚙️

  • @extremecheddarswityomom
    @extremecheddarswityomom 2 роки тому +9

    Beside american graffiti, I don't understand how the bel air was a more popular car. I personally like the looks of a 57 ford over a 57 chevy. And the ford is supercharged, that wouldve left me all in on buying ford over Chevy or dodge in that time period

    • @planefloat
      @planefloat 2 роки тому

      Agreed! Please see my comment. (Planefloat, aka Queasyrider)

  • @aguyinnc2865
    @aguyinnc2865 2 роки тому +2

    Love this car, would like to see more video of it!

  • @2098elk
    @2098elk 2 роки тому +2

    Sounds like a 4 speed. Only 3 on the tree in 57 or Fordomatic. Really neat car!

    • @jeromebreeding3302
      @jeromebreeding3302 2 роки тому +1

      The early Ford Toploader is a straight bolt-on to a Y-block bell-housing, using the inner holes on the trans.

    • @jeffhale2278
      @jeffhale2278 2 роки тому

      In one of the earlier replies, the OP says he's running a Tremec TKO.

  • @niterockerone
    @niterockerone 2 роки тому +2

    Kaiser had it in 54.....😁😁😁

  • @604cuinkillah
    @604cuinkillah 2 роки тому +2

    2021* technology. There, fixed it for ya😎

  • @seadog686
    @seadog686 2 роки тому +11

    NASCAR is just opposed to progress unless it's on their terms. They also hated the "winged" MOPARS of 1967-70 too, remember?

    • @kuiper6926
      @kuiper6926 2 роки тому +1

      Ford people never remember the hatred towards the other brands mate, all they can remember is the ban of their own engines... fun fact, never seen a single Ford bitch hating on Nascar for banning the 426 Hemi for a period. Just a fucking batch of selfish clowns

  • @ronskancke1489
    @ronskancke1489 Рік тому

    Back in 1970 we would hot rod a 58 Fairlane with a 312 cube engine 3 speed with overdrive. At about 90 mph it would fly out of gear so you knew you needed to shift up. We were some wild and crazy guys back then. Had a 56 ford that we destroyed the spider gears in doing j hooks. We just welded them up and took her back out. Unfortunately we didn't realize it didn't work well going around corners when both wheels were forced to go the same speed and our welding didn't hold up.

  • @steveeddy6876
    @steveeddy6876 2 роки тому +1

    Pretty Kool for 1957!!!!

  • @jeffnorwell8837
    @jeffnorwell8837 2 роки тому +7

    Simply Outstanding…The Fleischman Brother strike again…..

  • @BartRicky
    @BartRicky 2 роки тому

    That was my first car in high school. It was a stick 6 but those bench seats were wonderful in the drive-in movies

  • @garylam6233
    @garylam6233 2 роки тому +1

    NASCAR has changed the rules so much to pad the way for chevrolets I’m not even a fan but I remember my father in law complaining about there bs rules.
    He was so excited when Awesome Bill
    From Dawsonville took that track record speed qualifying run.
    Only to hear that they were going to be adding restrictor plates for the next race .
    They have it now where who ever gets out front they have teammates that can block the faster cars from getting by .
    That’s basically why Dale Earnhardt lost his life trying to block faster cars from passing Waltrip and his son .
    They would never admit it but race fans know what happened that day .

  • @phillippettes6321
    @phillippettes6321 Рік тому +1

    I notised back in the 1970s and 1980s that every time that chitrolet failed to win a number of races there would be a rule change. It is going on to this day.

  • @kimmorrison9169
    @kimmorrison9169 2 роки тому +7

    Im about to turn 70 yrs young and when I was in grade school my friends next door neighbor had a Red ‘57 Ford custom tudor post with the infamous F code 312. He used to drag race it locally.
    This blk one in video has been heavily modified and I think its a great rare classic. Wondering how much boost is running thru it now?

  • @starchiefgrayflake8224
    @starchiefgrayflake8224 2 роки тому

    Thanks for posting. I never knew. Only heard of Studabakers and Rocket 88.

  • @skeets6060
    @skeets6060 Рік тому

    OUTSTANDING,, I had a 57 and I loved that car

  • @peteradely885
    @peteradely885 Рік тому

    In 1957 I just got my NJ drivers lice nse. My Father drove 6cyl flathead Chrysler Windsors. Oh how I would have loved a SS Stock Ford. I saw a Studebaker with a Paxton Supercharger and wondered if it was faster? Fun times and now I drive a V6 SUV at 81 years of age.

  • @lawrencemick1665
    @lawrencemick1665 Рік тому +3

    I'm 62 I've seen this bias in all the racing platforms. We have to raise Bill Elliotts windshield by an inch so it will slow him down. I've heard TV announcers several times throughout the years, we have to slow them Fords down. Then turn around and say how great the 350 gm Motors are. Stuff like, it's the engine to which all others measured by. I've seen rule changes and bias in gms favor it's sickening. They Were and are going to make sure they win one way or the other. You can thank gm for the restricted engines in Nascar. I quit watching a long time ago. gm has deep pockets and uses them to make sure they have the rule in their favor. This is just scratching the surface in things they have pulled over the years. You think more folks should be aware of this stuff.

  • @dsm9785
    @dsm9785 2 роки тому +2

    Nice ride! Thought the back of the seat was going to snap when he was going through the gears

  • @Slimjim260
    @Slimjim260 Рік тому

    Henry Ford himself calculated the Y BLOCK design.The 312 was underestimated Beauty

  • @hotchihuahua1546
    @hotchihuahua1546 2 роки тому

    Love the sound !

  • @quagmiredavis4117
    @quagmiredavis4117 2 роки тому +1

    We have grandad Ranchero with f code and 57 post car like yours it ran white light