Predictive Processing and Meditation (a conversation)

A discussion with Shawn and Roger on how the cognitive science theory of Predictive Processing may make sense of what is happening in meditation.
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⏱️ TIME STAMPS ⏱️
0:00 prelude
1:00 brief overview of PP
5:40 What is concentration/precision weighting?
12:30 Why can meditators stay concentrated for longer?
15:44 Meditation becomes easier in time
16:57 Your brain is always trying to solve problems
19:20 Living in fear of things that seldom happen
21:53 What is meta-awareness?
27:09 How does the insight into emptiness fit in?
29:19 How do you sell de-reifying your world?
31:48 Psychedelics vs meditation
35:27 What is letting go in the mind?
40:35 Cessations/Nirvana the absence of prediction?
50:00 Minimsing error prediction = feeling better
52:22 Flow states and PP
56:36 Man's search for meaning and hedonic tones
1:01:25 "When you know the way you see it in all things" Surfing predictive waves

[@raymonddeoliveira2588]

Thank you so much for trying to eff the ineffable in greater precision 🙏 great cultivation of the investigation factor of enlightenment.

[@teodoravukovic4643]

wow fantastic!

[@raymonddeoliveira2588]

A highly fabricated meaningful flow is not sustainable as all things end. But until it ends, it’s pretty nice! The negative valence of death, aging, sickness, and that which comes with being born into a stressful world - it takes great privilege and blessing to maintain extremely heightened flow states, whereas defabrication is more reliable as it depends on less conditions to cultivate and keep even through tough times. They are also both on the same axis of cultivation - if you can manually build a switch that eventually becomes automated deconstruction in a high valence way, then it’s possible to build a switch to fabricate in that harmonious way which leads to meaningful high valence flow states. It will still be stressful in the way all work is stressful since it takes energy to fabricate, but it’s also highly functional and adaptive to procuring more time and privilege for perfectly defabricated states in the future. The math of optimizing valence in one’s life is such that both defabrication and skillful fabrication (imagine every skillful action compelled effortlessly by inspiration) are both very useful tools. Even in the futurist QRI imagination of phenomenal reality being divided into hedonium, qualiastream, and historium, optimizing valence for all beings everywhere requires a careful economic flow of beings between these states of phenomenal reality.

[@rogerthis]

Well said 👍

[@codyx8233]

🎊 Ｐ𝐫Ｏ𝕞Ｏ𝓢ｍ