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Loving this series so far! I'll binge the whole thing later so i can well, binge it. Once i start watching a series of yours i can't stop it until it's over, they are soo hooking!
Very controversial about Ford calling past history ficures meaningless, while at the same time his favorite Model-T was becoming more and more outdated. People wanted new cars with more luxury and his car did not offer that luxury. And ironically he also became more and more outdated.
@@موسى_7 mostly because, as the name of their generation implies, they are way too overrepresented, so the average percentage of people in a generation results in a lot more total people in theirs, not to mention that generations prior to them are thinning out and generations after them tend on average to have a very negative mentality (due in great part to the Baby Boom generation having enough numbers to impose their idealized version of their time while crushing the resistance). But in general, we see people like that in every generation since the dawn of times.
@Pangloss6413 Edsel didn't have the greatest relationship with him. Probably would have left him, but Ford poured a LOT of money into Edsel's aircraft dreams
It is deeply frustrating watching the financers being needed to hold back Ford's worst impulses, while also decrying improved wages, lower prices and increased production.
Nah, its actually useful insight. Financers (and stockholders) provide a huge help in getting a company started, but will try to stop any decisions that reduce profit, whether those decisions are morally good or bad. They are morally bankrupt, the same way that individuals like Ford can be morally bankrupt. The lesson here is that private companies run without shareholders *can* be evil, but *every* company beholden to shareholders will be evil.
Yeah, the whole "He liked to spy on his employees, but that's ok because "important" people thought it was ok at the time," sounds like "Yeah, segregation seems bad, but at the time most people supported it!"
@@DoggyHateFirein my opinion, I can get wanting to keep an eye on your workers. While I disagree to the degree he went, I can get him not wanting to keep alcoholics at his plant.
@@DoggyHateFireto be fair at the time a lot of people had very paternalistic views of the "working class". The spying on employees wouldn't have been nearly as outlandish to his contemporaries as it seems to us. That doesn't make it ok but it's worth remembering and examining how it was viewed at the time
@@stansman5461sure but there's a pretty big leap between not wanting alcoholics to operate heavy machinery, and saying no one, who works for me, is ever allowed to drink, period.
This is why life-long education is necessary. You can't afford to be misinformed. How pathetic for Henry Ford to be so rich and yet so misinformed. Why did he not even bother to learn? He could have the best education money can buy given his status.
@@andyb1653there are not many job opportunity at that time compare with our time now, and ford company give much more benefits than the other so its better to swallow your pride and continue to work even though your boss is a huge jerk
8:46 Great to see that Clara knew when to put her foot down even with all her saintly patience. You guys are the best! Every week i look forward to your amazing content and this has certainly show that those who don't learn their history are doomed to repeat it. Keep up the amazing work!
Speaking of "Fordism", in _Brave New World_ author Aldous Huxley sets the new calendar in his world entirely rebuilt around industrialism and consumerism to, "...in the year of Our Ford..." so-and-so. That is to say, a new calendar whose year zero began when "out Ford" built his first Model T.
@@nathanseper8738 I personally consider Brave New World to be both a Utopia and a Dystopia at the same time. On the one hand, it's giving people what people actually want, on the other hand, it's not very complimentary of the world created by giving people what they want.
He resented the investors who contributed nothing but money. - For a giant of industry and self-made millionaire he didn't seem to grasp the concept of capitalism or of capital investment.
well i see a genius disguised with paranoia of vagueness and obscurity. Remember he had no rich family or internet to gain information he had to conclude by analyzing face facts on what he sees.he is not wrong hollywood is fully under allegedly Jewish americans for some circumstances just like banking in europe was because of circumstances legally they only had that as an option for a living,he just did not know that when hanging out with them since he was not teacher the full history of everyone and everything on earth.neither did we tbh.
From this series I think you can get a pretty good picture of who Ford was: A person absolutely obsessed with this new automobile thing. It was probably all he worked on and thought about about all day and all night since he was a teenage boy. It doesnt strike me as though his initial motivation was to get rich off it. He simply thought it was awsome and that literally everyone should have one of those things. So I get where he is coming from when he says that. Investors simply dont share in the love for the craft. They only see money in, money out.
@@theInternet633True, but like it or not, the money is vastly important to getting the inventions to the people. We dreamers sometimes forget that materials, employees, infrastructure, etc. cost tons of money which makes investors absolutely necessary. Also, while investors obviously want the largest profits possible, some of them really do believe in what they are investing in. It's just that they have to focus on the practical aspects of making those dreams come true.
I actually agreed reading his biography with his assessment of such things, not some of his actions around it, he abused his son (as in adult not a kid mind you) for having such people as friends but I do feel the moral decay of companies comes fron them being run by money hungry commitees, I would prefer they live and die by the values of an individual.
I thought it was about Jeff Bezos/Mark Zuckerberg/Jack Dorsey/Steve Jobs/Peter Thiel and any other entrepreneur that thinks themself a genius just because they have access to money.
Funny thing to me is, Ford is still better in some regards. Obviously not the raging anti-semite part, moreso the fact he didn't come from generational wealth and (with the DEFINITIVE support of those around him) was at the forefront of a new industry. It all went to his head of course, but unlike Elon, Ford actually WAS there with his team of engineers, y'know?
@@JacksonJinn right, because landing rockets was already a thing and car makers didn't only start to build electric cars when tesla forced them to. No technical forefront to see here.
@@trulyUnAssuming But Elon didn't engineer or design rockets or electric cars! He invested in / bought control of Tesla, who already had designs and engineers. He founded SpaceX, but he sought out engineers (using his connections) to actually do the designing. He's not comparable to Henry Ford in this way, though he clearly influences the direction both of those companies go in.
Ford WAS a major oopsie doopsie. Others could have done what he did WITHOUT all the catastrophic character flaws. Dude did some impressive things, sure, but he also screwed a LOT of people over along the way. And that's BEFORE you get into the Anti-Semitism, misanthropy and bizarro political views.
I'm glad y'all are presenting the darker aspects of Ford's past. As a kid, I learned he was a national hero who "invented the assembly line and the 40-hour work week." I did later learn how those parts were technically incorrect, but also that there is so, so much more to him that should NOT be celebrated. We can't, in good conscience, teach one aspect without the other.
Ford’s petty demolition of his employee’s work in the opening reminds me a lot of Elon Musk. To quote a New Yorker profile of him, “Elon Musk desperately wants to save the world-so long as he is the one to do it.”
Considering how Musk has kinda gone off the deep end since 2018, I’m not surprised that he and Ford share a lot in common. Admire the achievement, sure. But don’t give credit to the asshole who only did so for the sake of getting credit.
@@tedioussugar384oh, no. A man who will build the foundations of the interstellar human civilizations also wants to be recognized for his acheivment! How awful!
@@AndrewFrancisIlyrian I never mentioned the model T specifically, Ford was a revolutionary because he built not bought. Ford built the Quadricycle and the Ford Motor Company, Elon bought Tesla...
that lawsuit was substantial in its own right. One of the stipulations was that Ford would not be allowed to increase the wage of his employees because "money invested in his workers was stolen from the shareholders," and is cited as one of the reasons why wage stagnation is such a problem in ununionized workers. It was decided by a judge that the shareholders can sue if workers get too many benefits from the company
Definitely sounds like the shareholder’s opinions are “those who work shouldn’t have their pay increased, instead that money should go to those who spent money for the specific reason to get more money out than they have spent”
Ironically, Henry Ford himself is now history - and therefore, in his own words, “bunk”. To know the basics of history is to know the basics of what to avoid when shaping the future.
That looks like the consumer price one, perhaps slightly dated. (The highest links on google for me are for articles written in 2013 instead of this year for some reason.) If you instead index to average unskilled urban labor wage you'd get a somewhat higher number.
Speaking of Ada Tarbell, it would be great if you lot did a series on her. Seeing some more Elizabethan England would be amazing too (tho it’s ur channel and ur decision).
This always seems to happen to most people that rise to greatness. Once they pass their peak or start having a god complex, they grow hateful and bitter and cling on to what they view made them great.
I did come here specifically to point out that, especially in that time period but really always, "anarchist" is short for "anarcho-socialist", and Henry Ford wasn't by any means either of those things. He was one of the problems anarchists wanted to... address.
Put this here: "BS am a life-long anarchist and the one thing we aren't is wealthy. Promise you there has never been a wealthy anarchist. Not one in the history of mankind. Not that we havent tried we just suck at making cash."
Oh... lets never forget that H himself admited in interviews, prior to the souring of the relationship between germany and the USA, how much he learned from the US segregation and how he admired Ford... he also based his whole world view about race on american eugenics movement of the time. Not saying WWII wouldn't happen without these little facts, at the end of the day the conflict had much deeper roots. But it is undeniable that the way the jewish people were treated was hugelly made possible due to the reach of certain biggoted ideologies made mainstream by the US and dialled to 11 by the NZ party.
I can’t say he was wrong with Lusitania. The passengers of all these types of ships were warned beforehand and when the wreck later was searched there were military equipment. Which made it a legal target, although Germany wasn’t able to prove that in court of popular opinion at the time.
@@sarasamaletdin4574 the Lusitania was a tragedy, regardless of being warned. The blood ultimately falls on the people who stuck arms on a civilian vessel
More like you learn humility early enough in life to understand that you’re not right about everything or need to be at the center of everything. Or you become convinced you’re Jesus.
I just want to say Ford was right about the investors contributing nothing but money. Those millions ARE better spent on raising wages, decreasing prices, and the new factory for Ford. With that being said, what Ford did today probably would've been highly illegal and be considered stock manipulation in today's standards.
I mean, the head of corporate security once literally fired a machine gun into a crowd of striking workers (a few of them had thrown rocks at strikebreakers). I think it's safe to say that would definitely be illegal today.
I mean, he DID commit fraud with that one. Pretty explicitely at it, i just don't know what the laws about it would be at the time, even without specific legjslation. And its amaizing how to this day the man got all the glory for "his" invention of the production line and yet very rarelly people are tought about his support of naziism ideology.
Additional weird factoid. The lawsuit also caused Ford to create Greenfield Village and the Henry Ford Museum a monster of a museum complex of Americana and the Ford Archives, probably the first corporate record archive in the world (and now a part of the Benson Ford Archives, a part of The Henry Ford (the current name for the Greenfield Village and the Henry Ford Museum complex).
Well, as far as i remember Lusitania has been warned. And if i remember right it got sinked, because captain decided to move in a straight line instead of manoeuvring around, like he wanted to get everyone killed. (or was it a different ship?)
2:39 if i had a nickel for every once in a generation car ceo who thinks he knows everything, I’d have two nickles. Which isnt alot but its weird that it happened twice
Aw snap! I thought this was a story of a quirky yet brilliant man who would play an important role in our modern society despite his unique, eristic eccentricities, but No!! Foreshadowing got me, and it got me good! Also, I legit did not see that ending coming, because YIKES!
I think you are mistaking Anarchist for Nestor Makhno type Anarcho Socialists or Peter Kropotkin. Not really the same thing in the commonly understood version of that word in the US.
@@jhonshephard921 I am aware. The popular definition in the US, and everywhere for that matter, is wrong. This is due to decades of state propagandization. You will be very hard pressed to find more than a handful of people in the entire world who both call themselves anarchists and adhere to the popular misunderstanding of the term.
Ooooh nooooo! I had a feeling the foreshadower was gonna reveal something horrible but I audible cringed when I saw the headline of that article! Amazing work as always but man Ford was something else
It's honestly wild how much this parallel's Elon Musk's asinine behaviour. "Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it", specially so when they actively disregard the importance of learning said history.
...Fyi, Ford and some 'Extra-Credits' as you could call it, that werent mentioned in this video, were mentioned at the End of the Some-More-News UA-cam-Video "N-zi Sympathizer Elon''
look man, if you got kicked out of 109 restaurants, do you think its the restaurants fault? or did you maybe do something wrong a whole bunch of times?
While he obviously looked like an idiot the case hinged on whether the statement about Ford being an anarchist was false or not. Ford was many things but an anarchist he was not, so he won he just looked stupid doing it.
Anarchist wasn't true, but the incompetent part was There's a reason the settlement was only 6c. That wasn't a lot even back then (note all the talk about the $5/day pay for the factory workers)
The passengers of the lousitania literally were warned the germans literally published the fact that they believed that ship was smuggling war goods and would sink it if they had the chance in us papers also diving teams have found that the ship was packed with shells and ammo
This is good history lesson why "benevolent billionaire" trope(or trillionaire) is gonna be very harmful for society, and avoided at all cost. Businessmen are exceptionally dumb and ignorant in many things outside of their expertise. Likely coz to succeed in business need to be able to narrowly focus to outcompete others.
They don't have to be dumb about other things, it's just so that for those who are not so informed about other things, their business success gave them the power to act on those other things in ways out of reach for most of the population. For example, buying a newspaper company to publish something that couldn't find the customers to reach profitability.
Nothing, it was a baseless accusation media at the time levelled (since, as today, it was often used as a general 'bogeyman word'), but in defending himself from the accusation (and others) in court he revealed just how unhinged and out of touch he could be.
Leave it to captalists to shoot themselves on the foot. By paying a decent salary, improving work conditions and promoting(forcing) a mostly healthier lifestile ford's profits went through the roof with the gigantic productivity gains amd yet the captalists can only look at it with the narowest of lens possible and think that they are not exploiting their workers hard enough...
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@@elmanorey video was privated
Loving this series so far!
I'll binge the whole thing later so i can well, binge it. Once i start watching a series of yours i can't stop it until it's over, they are soo hooking!
@@aaj4384 ohh ok
Very controversial about Ford calling past history ficures meaningless, while at the same time his favorite Model-T was becoming more and more outdated. People wanted new cars with more luxury and his car did not offer that luxury.
And ironically he also became more and more outdated.
A lot of people who get luckily successful become arrogant and ruin their own trajectory.
"We should ignore hostory somewhat"
"Curious, and yet you are a part of history"
There are a lot of people who truly believe that the best time is their time, so they are against anything from the past or the future.
@@jorgelotr3752boomers come to mind
@@موسى_7 mostly because, as the name of their generation implies, they are way too overrepresented, so the average percentage of people in a generation results in a lot more total people in theirs, not to mention that generations prior to them are thinning out and generations after them tend on average to have a very negative mentality (due in great part to the Baby Boom generation having enough numbers to impose their idealized version of their time while crushing the resistance).
But in general, we see people like that in every generation since the dawn of times.
those who don't learn their history are doomed to repeat it, and those who do are doomed to watch other people repeating it...
Are doomed to live in the future never meant for them.
I've seen the first part of that quote before but never the second. I like it.
@@scotandiamapping4549 There are a few variations of it floating around, I like this one though
Facts
Ehhh. I disagree with this take. History doesn't repeat, but it does like to rhyme.
Kind of eerie how Ford’s veering off into controversial issues seems to be repeating in some of our modern entrepreneurs.
Except none of Ford's kids ever disowned him over it
Or more likely their deeply buried biases coming to light once they achieved enough success to be "unimpeachable."
@Pangloss6413 Edsel didn't have the greatest relationship with him. Probably would have left him, but Ford poured a LOT of money into Edsel's aircraft dreams
There are two types of people. People who think Elon Musk is a modern day Henry Ford.
@@jenr6382 No he isn't. Ford actually was involved in development and helped progress. Elon is a creepy money man. Nothing more.
I love how EH doesn't potray the people they talk about as heros but as people
In this episode, more as a villain
@@amund8821 This series could be best described as a steady and/or sudden fall from grace, I think
Well, Henry Ford certainly was a..... "person"....
Well they do now their depiction of Catherine and Suielman was slavish in its devotion
Very well put.
It is deeply frustrating watching the financers being needed to hold back Ford's worst impulses, while also decrying improved wages, lower prices and increased production.
Wait until you hear about the motivations of the conspirators who assassinated Julius Caesar....
Nah, its actually useful insight. Financers (and stockholders) provide a huge help in getting a company started, but will try to stop any decisions that reduce profit, whether those decisions are morally good or bad. They are morally bankrupt, the same way that individuals like Ford can be morally bankrupt. The lesson here is that private companies run without shareholders *can* be evil, but *every* company beholden to shareholders will be evil.
@@TheGrumbliestPuppy
Makes you wonder if perhaps it's private ownership that's the problem.
Read his book
Now talk about how henry ford was the poster child for anti unionism.
Yeah, the whole "He liked to spy on his employees, but that's ok because "important" people thought it was ok at the time," sounds like "Yeah, segregation seems bad, but at the time most people supported it!"
@@DoggyHateFirein my opinion, I can get wanting to keep an eye on your workers. While I disagree to the degree he went, I can get him not wanting to keep alcoholics at his plant.
I think that's coming up.
@@DoggyHateFireto be fair at the time a lot of people had very paternalistic views of the "working class". The spying on employees wouldn't have been nearly as outlandish to his contemporaries as it seems to us.
That doesn't make it ok but it's worth remembering and examining how it was viewed at the time
@@stansman5461sure but there's a pretty big leap between not wanting alcoholics to operate heavy machinery, and saying no one, who works for me, is ever allowed to drink, period.
It’s crazy how much the “great business leaders of America” were actually huge jerks
And still are
"Huge jerks"? I think the words you are looking for are "Mafia Oligarchs"
No, it's only crazy that we haven't done something about it. Yet.
That's why theyvwere great business leaders
I think you’re forgetting the media always lied, anyone who is a threat to the status quo is made the villain. It’s all in the storytelling
This is why life-long education is necessary. You can't afford to be misinformed. How pathetic for Henry Ford to be so rich and yet so misinformed. Why did he not even bother to learn? He could have the best education money can buy given his status.
Can’t afFORD to be misinformed!! Ha! Right?… right?..
I am pretty sure he thought he was "informed" enough, when you can easily see now he has become paranoid
@@andyb1653there are not many job opportunity at that time compare with our time now, and ford company give much more benefits than the other so its better to swallow your pride and continue to work even though your boss is a huge jerk
@@Onyxiros good one. lol
@@andyb1653 If I were that employee, I'd jump ship to another company where I am appreciated
8:46 Great to see that Clara knew when to put her foot down even with all her saintly patience.
You guys are the best! Every week i look forward to your amazing content and this has certainly show that those who don't learn their history are doomed to repeat it.
Keep up the amazing work!
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She also does it when the workers unionize and Ford basically declares outright war on them.
Speaking of "Fordism", in _Brave New World_ author Aldous Huxley sets the new calendar in his world entirely rebuilt around industrialism and consumerism to, "...in the year of Our Ford..." so-and-so. That is to say, a new calendar whose year zero began when "out Ford" built his first Model T.
I'd never made that connection!!
Huxley was highly critical of American consumerism.
@@nathanseper8738 I personally consider Brave New World to be both a Utopia and a Dystopia at the same time. On the one hand, it's giving people what people actually want, on the other hand, it's not very complimentary of the world created by giving people what they want.
One quote I remember in that book attributed to "Our Ford": "History is bunk."
@@jesseberg3271 Huxley saw this as a more plausible dystopia: one that oppresses by giving you so much that you...just don't care.
He resented the investors who contributed nothing but money. - For a giant of industry and self-made millionaire he didn't seem to grasp the concept of capitalism or of capital investment.
He did have something of a point, he just didn't respect how important the money they contributed was.
well i see a genius disguised with paranoia of vagueness and obscurity. Remember he had no rich family or internet to gain information he had to conclude by analyzing face facts on what he sees.he is not wrong hollywood is fully under allegedly Jewish americans for some circumstances just like banking in europe was because of circumstances legally they only had that as an option for a living,he just did not know that when hanging out with them since he was not teacher the full history of everyone and everything on earth.neither did we tbh.
From this series I think you can get a pretty good picture of who Ford was: A person absolutely obsessed with this new automobile thing. It was probably all he worked on and thought about about all day and all night since he was a teenage boy. It doesnt strike me as though his initial motivation was to get rich off it. He simply thought it was awsome and that literally everyone should have one of those things.
So I get where he is coming from when he says that. Investors simply dont share in the love for the craft. They only see money in, money out.
@@theInternet633True, but like it or not, the money is vastly important to getting the inventions to the people. We dreamers sometimes forget that materials, employees, infrastructure, etc. cost tons of money which makes investors absolutely necessary. Also, while investors obviously want the largest profits possible, some of them really do believe in what they are investing in. It's just that they have to focus on the practical aspects of making those dreams come true.
I actually agreed reading his biography with his assessment of such things, not some of his actions around it, he abused his son (as in adult not a kid mind you) for having such people as friends but I do feel the moral decay of companies comes fron them being run by money hungry commitees, I would prefer they live and die by the values of an individual.
I'm really enjoying this series on Elon Musk
I thought it was about Jeff Bezos/Mark Zuckerberg/Jack Dorsey/Steve Jobs/Peter Thiel and any other entrepreneur that thinks themself a genius just because they have access to money.
Funny thing to me is, Ford is still better in some regards. Obviously not the raging anti-semite part, moreso the fact he didn't come from generational wealth and (with the DEFINITIVE support of those around him) was at the forefront of a new industry. It all went to his head of course, but unlike Elon, Ford actually WAS there with his team of engineers, y'know?
@@JacksonJinn right, because landing rockets was already a thing and car makers didn't only start to build electric cars when tesla forced them to. No technical forefront to see here.
@trulyUnAssuming Rlon Musk is a joke, he accomplished nothing he's just an idea man with Emerald Mine money
@@trulyUnAssuming But Elon didn't engineer or design rockets or electric cars! He invested in / bought control of Tesla, who already had designs and engineers. He founded SpaceX, but he sought out engineers (using his connections) to actually do the designing. He's not comparable to Henry Ford in this way, though he clearly influences the direction both of those companies go in.
Ford clearly did a major oopsie doopsie
Ford WAS a major oopsie doopsie. Others could have done what he did WITHOUT all the catastrophic character flaws. Dude did some impressive things, sure, but he also screwed a LOT of people over along the way. And that's BEFORE you get into the Anti-Semitism, misanthropy and bizarro political views.
A bit of an owwie
a slight uh oh
He got promoted past his actual level of competence aka the Peter Principle.
ahh eto---~ blehh
"Never underestimate the will of just one man" crazy how ever action sets off a unforeseen after effect.
I'm glad y'all are presenting the darker aspects of Ford's past. As a kid, I learned he was a national hero who "invented the assembly line and the 40-hour work week." I did later learn how those parts were technically incorrect, but also that there is so, so much more to him that should NOT be celebrated. We can't, in good conscience, teach one aspect without the other.
Ford’s petty demolition of his employee’s work in the opening reminds me a lot of Elon Musk. To quote a New Yorker profile of him, “Elon Musk desperately wants to save the world-so long as he is the one to do it.”
Considering how Musk has kinda gone off the deep end since 2018, I’m not surprised that he and Ford share a lot in common.
Admire the achievement, sure. But don’t give credit to the asshole who only did so for the sake of getting credit.
@@tedioussugar384oh, no. A man who will build the foundations of the interstellar human civilizations also wants to be recognized for his acheivment! How awful!
@@AndrewFrancisIlyrian "will", not "has". Ford built something revolutionary, the same can't be said for Elon Musk.
@@samsaraatiger Ford was a revolutionary before the model T
@@AndrewFrancisIlyrian I never mentioned the model T specifically, Ford was a revolutionary because he built not bought. Ford built the Quadricycle and the Ford Motor Company, Elon bought Tesla...
that lawsuit was substantial in its own right. One of the stipulations was that Ford would not be allowed to increase the wage of his employees because "money invested in his workers was stolen from the shareholders," and is cited as one of the reasons why wage stagnation is such a problem in ununionized workers.
It was decided by a judge that the shareholders can sue if workers get too many benefits from the company
Definitely sounds like the shareholder’s opinions are “those who work shouldn’t have their pay increased, instead that money should go to those who spent money for the specific reason to get more money out than they have spent”
Ironically, Henry Ford himself is now history - and therefore, in his own words, “bunk”.
To know the basics of history is to know the basics of what to avoid when shaping the future.
Read his book if you believe what you say
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Thanks so much for all your support!
misspelling "ignorant" in the title is hilarious
Oh how human nature so easily picks up a different group of people with whom they don't identify with and diverts fear and anger towards them.
So you're telling me that HENRY FORD indirectly HELPED ADOLF.
We went from "Henry Ford was a good man" to "Henry Ford was a jackass who had a hand in starting World War II" really quickly...
Adjusted for inflation, $5 would be about $155 a day
That looks like the consumer price one, perhaps slightly dated. (The highest links on google for me are for articles written in 2013 instead of this year for some reason.) If you instead index to average unskilled urban labor wage you'd get a somewhat higher number.
This series is really good even though I am not interested in cars
That fine line between genius and madness trips up so many people...
Speaking of Ada Tarbell, it would be great if you lot did a series on her. Seeing some more Elizabethan England would be amazing too (tho it’s ur channel and ur decision).
One of the best EH's in a while - thanks for the content
“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes” (attributed to Mark Twain)
Not George Lucas ? oh ok
I need more i can’t live without this series it’s so good
This always seems to happen to most people that rise to greatness. Once they pass their peak or start having a god complex, they grow hateful and bitter and cling on to what they view made them great.
“Either you die a hero or live long enough to become the villain”
Ill stay myself never let myself be curuped never
This is actually amazing you always manage to add a little bit of extra history to my day thank you ❤
I'm an anarchist, and I'd be more than willing to swear under oath that Henry goddamn Ford was not an anarchist. The very notion is absurd.
I did come here specifically to point out that, especially in that time period but really always, "anarchist" is short for "anarcho-socialist", and Henry Ford wasn't by any means either of those things. He was one of the problems anarchists wanted to... address.
Put this here: "BS am a life-long anarchist and the one thing we aren't is wealthy. Promise you there has never been a wealthy anarchist. Not one in the history of mankind. Not that we havent tried we just suck at making cash."
The fact that he's at least partially responsible for ww2.....ironic.
WOW 😮
And the holocaust
Henry Ford wasn't responsible for World War 2, Nazism existed since atleast 1897 in Austria Hungary.
WWII didn't start because of antisemitism. It was just kind of there in the background.
Oh... lets never forget that H himself admited in interviews, prior to the souring of the relationship between germany and the USA, how much he learned from the US segregation and how he admired Ford... he also based his whole world view about race on american eugenics movement of the time.
Not saying WWII wouldn't happen without these little facts, at the end of the day the conflict had much deeper roots. But it is undeniable that the way the jewish people were treated was hugelly made possible due to the reach of certain biggoted ideologies made mainstream by the US and dialled to 11 by the NZ party.
I find Ford being against WW1 Ironic. He technically agreed with Eugene V. Debs, America's most influential Socialist politician of the time.
I can’t say he was wrong with Lusitania. The passengers of all these types of ships were warned beforehand and when the wreck later was searched there were military equipment. Which made it a legal target, although Germany wasn’t able to prove that in court of popular opinion at the time.
@@sarasamaletdin4574 the Lusitania was a tragedy, regardless of being warned. The blood ultimately falls on the people who stuck arms on a civilian vessel
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I mean it's natural. Woodrow Wilson was a bad man
@@Stephanie-mv9iy while you're not wrong, what does it have to do with him really?
This series has been amazing! Ford is such an interesting figure, flaws and all and you huys capture it all perfectly! You are the Best 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
>Hates WWI
>Accidentally causes WWII
You either die a Hero, or live long enough to become a Villain...
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Ha ha ha 😂 so true
More like you learn humility early enough in life to understand that you’re not right about everything or need to be at the center of everything.
Or you become convinced you’re Jesus.
I just want to say Ford was right about the investors contributing nothing but money. Those millions ARE better spent on raising wages, decreasing prices, and the new factory for Ford. With that being said, what Ford did today probably would've been highly illegal and be considered stock manipulation in today's standards.
I mean, the head of corporate security once literally fired a machine gun into a crowd of striking workers (a few of them had thrown rocks at strikebreakers). I think it's safe to say that would definitely be illegal today.
@KS-PNW I'm talking about the part where he said he quit ford and create a comptitor
I mean, he DID commit fraud with that one. Pretty explicitely at it, i just don't know what the laws about it would be at the time, even without specific legjslation.
And its amaizing how to this day the man got all the glory for "his" invention of the production line and yet very rarelly people are tought about his support of naziism ideology.
It’s amazing how this channel makes history feel like a suspense/horror movie 😂
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Ford is the real world Harvey Dent; he lived long enough to become the villain.
As a born and raised Michigander, I always knew deep down instinctively that Ford was the worst...
*the best. Oy vey!
@@mysampson284 Watch the video before commenting
Additional weird factoid. The lawsuit also caused Ford to create Greenfield Village and the Henry Ford Museum a monster of a museum complex of Americana and the Ford Archives, probably the first corporate record archive in the world (and now a part of the Benson Ford Archives, a part of The Henry Ford (the current name for the Greenfield Village and the Henry Ford Museum complex).
Well, as far as i remember Lusitania has been warned. And if i remember right it got sinked, because captain decided to move in a straight line instead of manoeuvring around, like he wanted to get everyone killed. (or was it a different ship?)
2:39 if i had a nickel for every once in a generation car ceo who thinks he knows everything, I’d have two nickles. Which isnt alot but its weird that it happened twice
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Aw snap! I thought this was a story of a quirky yet brilliant man who would play an important role in our modern society despite his unique, eristic eccentricities, but No!! Foreshadowing got me, and it got me good!
Also, I legit did not see that ending coming, because YIKES!
5:10 "I'll make a NEW company with a NEW car with BLACKJACK and HOOKERS"
I assure you, Henry Ford was the furthest possible thing from an Anarchist.
Rules for thee but not for me. He wants anarchy rules for himself, yet wants to hold every other person to an authoritarian standard
@@perk3236 you could say that for most capitalists
I think you are mistaking Anarchist for Nestor Makhno type Anarcho Socialists or Peter Kropotkin. Not really the same thing in the commonly understood version of that word in the US.
@jhonshephard921 Those are exactly the types of anarchists the newspaper was accusing Ford of being, though.
@@jhonshephard921 I am aware. The popular definition in the US, and everywhere for that matter, is wrong. This is due to decades of state propagandization. You will be very hard pressed to find more than a handful of people in the entire world who both call themselves anarchists and adhere to the popular misunderstanding of the term.
By the way unless it's a pun or something that I'm not getting, "ignorant" in the title is misspelled
Likewise
100% a pun
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Honestly, I’m surprised Clara didn’t divorce Ford already lol
I think this was a very important video as some see Ford as a perfect hero snd others see him as a pure monster.
I guess you could say that he lived long enough to become a villian.
Next time, we're in Ford a wild ride
Ahh the ol' electric urinal
A true classic
Wait... Ford hated jazz?!?! The man is a monster!!!
8:53 the crossover we neither wanted nor needed
"Ignorent" Brilliant guys Walpole would be proud!
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Ooooh nooooo! I had a feeling the foreshadower was gonna reveal something horrible but I audible cringed when I saw the headline of that article! Amazing work as always but man Ford was something else
It's honestly wild how much this parallel's Elon Musk's asinine behaviour. "Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it", specially so when they actively disregard the importance of learning said history.
Even bought a paper and made it antisemitic, a parallel echoed in Musk's Twitter and online hate tirades...
It’s almost like billionaires tend to veer to reactionary and far right beliefs whenever the system that keeps them in power are being threatened….
Ford had one child with one wife; something Elon could never comprehend.
0:55 My Preciousssss model t
3:41 the foreshadow always looming....
7:25 been on the look out for the foreshadow since the beggining
I'm so glad this came out of a side series of extra credits!!
Me Burns: "I like the cut of his jib!"
That move to get investor shares back into family control was kinda genious.
My great-great grandfather owned a Model A. I was able to ride in it a few times.
So cool
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Give the one who drew the thumbnail picture a raise.
That intro. I'm going to see Henry Ford in my nightmares, Christ.
...Fyi, Ford and some 'Extra-Credits' as you could call it, that werent mentioned in this video, were mentioned at the End of the Some-More-News UA-cam-Video "N-zi Sympathizer Elon''
8:56 nahhhhhhhh thats vile💀 henry ford helped the austrian art man rise to power
Thus begins the downward spiral of Henry Ford
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The idea that someone could rip apart a car with their bare hands is WILD
Turns out people need to be told "no" every now and then or they go absolutely insane.
You know what they say "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain."
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Henry Ford is one example of how people overlook antisemitism they use even today
What did he say that was wrong?
Everything. Maybe you should try to research this more
@@sarasamaletdin4574 Keep drinking the Kool-aid.
look man, if you got kicked out of 109 restaurants, do you think its the restaurants fault? or did you maybe do something wrong a whole bunch of times?
@@napalm777 Exactly my point.
There was nothing to overlook.
He was correct.
6:54 wait... HOW did he win the case?!! He bribe the jury? The judge?? I don't understand 😳
Gotta love the American justice system
He was rich and lived in America. That's pretty much it
While he obviously looked like an idiot the case hinged on whether the statement about Ford being an anarchist was false or not. Ford was many things but an anarchist he was not, so he won he just looked stupid doing it.
Probably the anarchist part was what was libelous.
Anarchist wasn't true, but the incompetent part was
There's a reason the settlement was only 6c. That wasn't a lot even back then (note all the talk about the $5/day pay for the factory workers)
But the Lusitania passengers WERE warned so Ford was correct or am I mistaken?
0:55
Hearing that slight shout was just… perfect and scare inducing.
You should do a Westinghouse series
The passengers of the lousitania literally were warned the germans literally published the fact that they believed that ship was smuggling war goods and would sink it if they had the chance in us papers also diving teams have found that the ship was packed with shells and ammo
I never heard this before. Fascinating.
hey extra history, i love your content i would really like it if you made a series covering the 7 years war if u havnt already
This is good history lesson why "benevolent billionaire" trope(or trillionaire) is gonna be very harmful for society, and avoided at all cost. Businessmen are exceptionally dumb and ignorant in many things outside of their expertise. Likely coz to succeed in business need to be able to narrowly focus to outcompete others.
They don't have to be dumb about other things, it's just so that for those who are not so informed about other things, their business success gave them the power to act on those other things in ways out of reach for most of the population.
For example, buying a newspaper company to publish something that couldn't find the customers to reach profitability.
@@ryantsui2802I mean the content he was spreading with that, potentially altering history for worse
finally something that makes sense to me today
What in the nine circles of hell does Henry Ford have to do with Anarchism, like the title suggests?
Nothing, it was a baseless accusation media at the time levelled (since, as today, it was often used as a general 'bogeyman word'), but in defending himself from the accusation (and others) in court he revealed just how unhinged and out of touch he could be.
Cool background effect at 9:08
Pssst, Extra History: It's spelled "Ignorant". ;) I love your videos!
How punny!
So basically not only ford becomes paranoid he also becomes mad
"One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his greatest surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do." -- Henry Ford
His whole rise and fall is a wild level of irony...
If i'm Ford= *rips off the door* boys if yall can reinforce this we will put it on production... anyways decent job, keep it up!
It’s kind of weird how much of a parallel this draws to Elon musk now that he’s using Twitter to also blame Jews for plotting against him
Not really you're just in a cult.
Ikr
Wait Musk turned into anti semite?
@@jokuvaan5175 probably always was
Timely episode too, since today Israel was attacked by Hamas
8 seconds, new record!
The shadow pulling back the curtain is clever
Funny how an industrial baron could be labeled an anarchist for DARING to pay their workers more than nothing.
Leave it to captalists to shoot themselves on the foot. By paying a decent salary, improving work conditions and promoting(forcing) a mostly healthier lifestile ford's profits went through the roof with the gigantic productivity gains amd yet the captalists can only look at it with the narowest of lens possible and think that they are not exploiting their workers hard enough...
@@Democlis Gotta love institutional slavery through the means of finance. Totally has 0 negative repercussions on any level of the system whatsoever.
@@Democlisthat wasnt the case until tech and productivity allowed that.
It’s really funny that you misspelled the word ignorant in the title, the irony is *chef’s kiss*
Sounds like he did an Elon Musk
As a fellow henry, i can say this isn't a henry moment 💀