Ep. 006 - Formula Student: An Aerodynamic & Technical Analysis

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
  • I made a visit to Formula Student Competition at Silverstone in July to have a look at some of the technology the teams bought. Great event for students to get involved in during their masters year of university and learn the ropes of motorsport.
    In this video i analyse some of the technical approaches to Aerodynamics in particular, with a look at the powertrain and vehicle dynamics approaches also.
    Images courtesy of Formula Student IMechE:
    www.flickr.com/photos/fsuk/
  • Наука та технологія

КОМЕНТАРІ • 28

  • @8pipis
    @8pipis 3 роки тому +47

    yo I didn't know daniel ricciardo was moonlighting as an aerodynamicist (great vid btw)

    • @WaveyDynamics
      @WaveyDynamics  3 роки тому +6

      Hahaha! Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

    • @blinkybillski
      @blinkybillski 3 роки тому +1

      Lol you’re right. He a black Riccardo. Haha.

  • @blinkybillski
    @blinkybillski 3 роки тому +21

    These guys on some real racing shit. Downforce like crazy, open to huge innovation... what’s not to love. Thanks my guy. Subbed now too.

  • @OrdinaryLatvian
    @OrdinaryLatvian 3 роки тому +5

    What a fantastic video, mate. Thanks for going so in depth.

    • @WaveyDynamics
      @WaveyDynamics  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks! I'd love to do another one like this in front of an LMP car or something similar! I'll try and make that happen soon!

  • @blakekuhlmann4581
    @blakekuhlmann4581 8 місяців тому +1

    Great Video!

  • @palmermonsen9098
    @palmermonsen9098 3 роки тому +6

    love to see the crazy aero and open rules but it kinda turns it into play to win, would be better imo with a cost cap (great video btw too)

    • @WaveyDynamics
      @WaveyDynamics  3 роки тому

      Yeah FS does get like that which is a shame. It's things like the sponsorship and free parts etc that are really hard to control. Either way i feel like you probably learn a little more being in the less funded teams!

    • @palmermonsen9098
      @palmermonsen9098 3 роки тому +4

      @@WaveyDynamics for sure, the less funded teams usually find the most interesting advantages

    • @blueshadow331
      @blueshadow331 6 місяців тому

      cost plays a role in the score, the more money spent, the less the score

  • @elGa_tUrRo
    @elGa_tUrRo 4 роки тому +4

    Great video👍🏻

    • @WaveyDynamics
      @WaveyDynamics  4 роки тому +1

      Appreciate it Fernando. Must be more regular with my content!

  • @comptegoogle511
    @comptegoogle511 2 роки тому +3

    I don't know how the cost report rules have evolved with the years but I know that when I was doing the competition the gain from small carbon fiber winglets like this would be to expensive to produce for the grip gain that they produce. The competition is at slow speed so an underbody tunnel with a large rear wing and a large front wing is enough.

    • @WaveyDynamics
      @WaveyDynamics  2 роки тому

      Good point! It's been a while since i looked at that stuff so i can't comment on how the judges evaluate those kind of things but you may well be right.

    • @comptegoogle511
      @comptegoogle511 2 роки тому

      @@WaveyDynamics When I was doing the competition all the carbon fiber grams on the car had to be debated for the 100$/ per pound in the cost report.

    • @WaveyDynamics
      @WaveyDynamics  2 роки тому

      @@comptegoogle511 Yeah, right.. I guess you have to weigh up the hit you take in the design report vs. the performance gained and engineering experience you'd get from doing the aero work in that respect.

    • @comptegoogle511
      @comptegoogle511 2 роки тому

      @@WaveyDynamics If you can come up with the simplest solution that can get the job done efficiently then you show that you've already have a lot of engineering experience. LEAN manufacturing is the Hiroshima of the automotive industry in North America because they didn't adapt.

  • @Johnu
    @Johnu 10 місяців тому +2

    Bro looks like Daniel Ricciardo

  • @sam-sj1nc
    @sam-sj1nc 3 місяці тому

    are you allowed to drive if you are a student with racing experience or does it have to be a beginner cause i think i read that somewhere?

  • @comptegoogle511
    @comptegoogle511 2 місяці тому

    The car will be at 80 Km/h only at the end of the straight line. Most of the race is at 30-50 km/h and lift (downforce) is proportional to the scare factor of the speed. Those wings must penalize the team a lot for the cost report.

  • @luthersibanda5925
    @luthersibanda5925 2 роки тому +2

    you look like Daniel Riccardo somehow

    • @WaveyDynamics
      @WaveyDynamics  2 роки тому

      You guys have been watching too much F1 lol

  • @ulysse21
    @ulysse21 2 роки тому +2

    Given the very limited performances of the SAE cars and the kind of gymkhana tracks they're racing on, I see no need for so much aero complicated stuff and that ridiculously high rear wing.

    • @WaveyDynamics
      @WaveyDynamics  2 роки тому

      You'd think so, but generally the top 20 placed teams all have cars with significant aero, so there's certainly a correlation there whether it's design points or absolute performance.

    • @HannyDart
      @HannyDart Рік тому

      the typical sensitivities of a FSAE car are as follows:
      1. tire mu
      2. overall mass
      3. coefficient of lift
      4. cog-height
      5. coefficient of drag
      6. motor power
      as a rule of thumb you can say that each of those parameters is only half as sensitive to the laptime as the one above: so you could change the cog-height by 10% but also increase C_l by 5% and the car will not be slower.
      p.s.: keep in mind that procentual changes depend on the baseline and theres quite a big variability regarding weight (between 160 and 220 kg) or C_l (none up to 8!). the above stated sensitivities are for a 180kg car with C_l of about 6.

    • @HixsonRacing777
      @HixsonRacing777 Рік тому

      I race for a decent FSAE team in the US and during our testing I found that our car without wings was faster than with wings. The wings add weight and max speed we hit in our car was 70 mph but it’s rare we hit that