@@jarod144 I have it. Every pitch sounds very distinct to me, so I can identify the pitch of LITERALLY ANY AUDIO I HEAR (unless the frequency is insanely high/low). However, it’s a little difficult to tune to exactly 440Hz. I end up tuning to 438Hz all the time, but that might just be me.
@@micah_rt5492 reminds me of that one time I heard my school's auditorium's grand piano was a bit sharp. My music teacher was there at the time, so I told him, "Hey, the piano's about 4Hz sharp." He pulled out his phone, opened a tuner app and played A4 - lo and behold, 444Hz.
@@sethie_shots I completely agree but there's something completely special about Jacobs ability to "let us in" as people who are strictly used to western music theory and make this sort of stuff feel so clear and accessible and explained so simply and effectively
I freakin love how Jacob sees his creative process as one of discovery. He doesn’t claim to “own” any of his creations; he’s just exploring and discovering all that music can do with his absolutely mind boggling ear.
Imagine how terrible the world would be (no exaggeration) if our governments allowed people to copyright and patent every little aspect of music like chord transitions.
This isn't anything new. Musicians did this kind of thing hundreds of years ago, before there was equal temperament. There were double sharps and flats, half and quarter sharps and flats as well. No one is using this in western music today. They do however use it in eastern music. [Middle East and Asia]
Good friend of mine said, "I have no doubt he's a genius, I just don't like his music." I feel like that actually kind of sums up my thoughts as well. I admire his energy and respect him as a musician. I watch these videos. I feel like there's something useful I could learn from it. But...I don't actually like the sound of his music. I'm just impressed by it.
I’d recommend some of his more stripped back compositions if you do want to give him a proper shot. In the real early morning off of his first album is a great example of this for example. Also, his performance of hallelujah for bbc radio (not the Covid one but instead a transcription on UA-cam) is also wonderfully delicate, even if it is still quite adventurous on chord choices. A lot of his music is borderline overkill even for the most avid musicians and fans, but underneath the eclectic creativity of a musical genius there is still a thoughtful musician with great taste.
A friend of mine and I were talking about this. He said he thinks he uses too much cool music theory to the point where it feels overstuffed or something. It’s like the most beautiful elegant cake you have ever seen, but it’s got a 4 inch layer of frosting
Maybe it's the sound of his voice, he could hire other singers more often, and only do the composing/editing part instead. I like his music, but not his singing.
@@calebmurray6980 he’s saying if you know you have perfect pitch but you don’t notice the g half sharp then it’s actually not perfect which could be unsettling for some people i guess idk i don’t have perfect pitch
It's just really weird. I have perfect pitch, and my brain is basically tuned to A=441. Sometimes if I'm listening to baroque pitch music it gets tuned to 415. A lot of recordings (especially before the digital age) are sharper or flatter than that, and it's just disconcerting. The sensation of the G half sharp chords is just really weird, because the notes don't lock into place like I expect things to do in a 12-tone system.
I once saw Jacob cook a pop tart at a Holiday Inn Express by humming in countervailing microtones. Somebody else was using the toaster. Hard to control the scope, though. A little girl at a nearby table burned her mouth when the milk in her cereal bowl began to boil. So it goes.
@@nathanrous1475 What is real? What is fake? Reality is just a concept. I ate the waffles, and oh man! They were delicious, but very hot. Tasted a little like pizza too.
In Arabic music theory we use half sharps ALL the time, its part of our scales. Our scales are made of 24 notes not 12 - But we jus call them quarter tones. Our version of the major scale is called Rast and it is as folllows: (I will write b/2 for half a flat or #/2 for half a sharp) C D Eb/2 F G A Bb/2 C Our saddest most dramatic scale is called Saba scale: D Eb/2 F F# A A# C D - i mean think about this scale for a second, look at all the congestion after the D - and offcourse its the WAY you use it is very important but I recommend any western person to youtube "Saba Scale improvisation" and you will just hear probably for the first time a new DIMENSION hidden notes you never knew could be brought out and create new emotions
I think this is a really interesting point, music is inherently Eurocentric and we disregard Arabic, Indian, Chinese and Japanese ways (to name a few) of tonality and scale making. How would you normally label the notes ? I’m guessing the letters are a sort of translation for understanding but I’d love to know the original ways of describing an Arabic scale.
@@jamesturner2914 Arabic music always had a strong oral tradition that was passed down by ear, its only untill very recent in history that they adopted western notation after they had that big arabiv summi t was the first congressional arabic music summit in cairo 1932 is when they standardized alot of things to make it more global, kinda like the whole 440 standard tunin thing that made things more global and accesible so music can be more connected. So other than that to make a quarter tone u jus simply add AN EXTRA dash so jus think of it as a sharp then add another sharp on the sharp so a DOUBLE SHARP! or a DOUBLE MINOR line/dash - thats how they notate it - but mind u in almost everybody i play with we never ever use any notation its very oral and by feeling, especially because no 2 people will play the identical same quarter tone, albeit it very close ur finger on a fretless board of the Oud for example can have slight diference between each person, - fretless instruments r the only proper way to play arabic scales so u r the one fully expressing your music, and not bounded by hard glued in frets like a guitar.
@@jamesturner2914 Music is not Eurocentric. Music in the west follow the western school, unsurprisingly. Nothing wrong with it. But don't forget for example flamenco in Spain with its arab influence, and other such influences in western music, such as the African contribution to blues and jazz. Other cultures still have their music school alive.
@@andre.1984 formal music theory and education are Eurocentric, that was the point I was making- not that all music around the world is homogeneous. Trust me when I say this, I’m a geography student who specialises in cultural geographies.
The way he is lecturing surrounded by a warmed and engaged audience reminds me so much of Terrence McKenna's lectures. People are there for the love of something bigger than them, in this case music!
This might really be the future of classical music too, modulating a quarter pitch higher or lower to express different moods, feelings, colors etc. Extremely compelling and interesting thing, also tremendously difficult.
Not really realistic for most instruments, but it's certainly cool to think about and explore, and of course I do hope we see composers playing around with it insofar as mechanical logistics allow
I don't have perfect pitch, but I have relative pitch and I'm also really good at being in tune or knowing when I am not in tune with the music. it would be very difficult for me to sing in between notes unless I had the whole cord to listen to. The in-between chord! This is incredibly impressive.
One of the, if not my most favorite moments in vocal arranging, and it's all thanks to the magic that you find once you break away from the dogma of equal temperament. Astounding.
I feel like ive always thought of this. Because we always talk about music and keys in semitones or full tones, but there is definitely things in between semitones as well because if you love singing or music youll know that you can in fact sing in between the space of a semitone.
Dude's like an experimental physicists but with music. I'm glad he's so young coz I feel he'll do a LOT for music in his life, but not just in a traditional way as only a musician. He's inspiring me in new ways I haven't felt before
“No one sings in that key”. Well, I also used to think nobody sang in key ‘Q flat minor’… until I started accompanying the worship team at a certain church. Had to have my head tuned after each worship session.
That's fascinating how much fun he has "getting away with it", and I really didn't notice. But what I noticed was the incredible relief at the end of this song, when he moves back downwards to the original pitch: ua-cam.com/video/7-nRv0uQvH0/v-deo.html
Once in a hundred lifetime one encounters such a being. There is so much more than meets the eye or the ear. Jacob's music is the tangibly of sound. It provokes the gentle rise and shift of emotion with each changing chord.
Nope, the whammy bar usage adds *colour* through having one instrument in the mix create deliberate tension (and release) to a song. Here, Jacob modulates the song/piece itself to another *key*
I reality, G half sharp would only exist in relation to another key or tuning. For example, if you were in a key with a standard tuning (A = 440) then you could modulate to a key that is not in the that tuning and could be a half sharp key. If "Kiss From a Rose" stays in one key the whole time, then it could be considered in a "normal key." In this case, it just isn't (A = 440). It could be simply in the key of G and it's not concert pitch. In the past, songs were written in keys that are not A = 440 and their keys were still referred to as key of G, key of C, etcetera. It's relative. Now if you modulate from key of C (standard concert pitch) to a key that is out of that, then you get the microtone designation. I don't think that applies to "Kiss from a Rose."
@@JTX8000 If it doesn't modulate, then it's just in a normal key, but not current concert pitch. The classical songs were played in keys that didn't have A = 440, but were still said to be in the key of C Major, G Major, C sharp minor, etcetera.
Perfect ears, open mind, big heart and endless imagination. Is he the Amadeus of our time or the Einstein of music? No. He’s Jacob effin’ Collier, and that’s enuff.
His shirt makes me think of Kusco from Emperor's New Groove. And the music, is beautiful as usual. I live and breathe the sense of wonder with him when hearing his music. So glad he is out there sharing with the world!
This is the aesthetically pleasing proof that limiting our music to the 12 note system was a mistake. The middle eastern world knows this. This fucking transcendent shaman of a man is just so intuitive with music that being immersed in western tones just didn't brainwash him into thinking they were the only "right" notes like it did the vast majority of us. It's awesome when people really run with their gifts like this, fuckin god speed on your life journey.
This man is so intressting and unike and just! I don't know how to describe it but as a person who is playing instruyments and has it as a hobby just loves it! I love him, fr!
collier literally explains it in the rest of this video lol, a quick tldr: is that he used those 4 chords and shifted some of the voices by a certain number of cents via each chord change, eventually landing on the target of G half #. We accept it because of the microtonal adjustments he made during that 4 chord setup. (The math/theory IS pretty insane though)
Id like to see it in an official capacity but i can say that i understand the concept. Harmony is often described with emotions, but there is also a component that has to do with the math of ratios. When vibrations line up we hear harmony but if a vibration is a little off we hear a "beat" the volume of the notes change at a regular rate as a vibration shifts from adding to subtracting. While we mostly tolerate this and cant avoid as listening spaces may also have standing waves that can do this to the music but when compared directly you will hear the warble if an interval is off from perfect. The issue is that when we try to space things equally tonally we get a logarithmic spacing of frequencies and while there are many near misses in a 12 tone system and also microtonal systems they arent perfect. We know the circle of 5th but if you actually follow a series of 3:2 ratio you dont actually land on an octave of the starting note, this is true of any "circle" of an interval. The musical system breaks down when we try to get perfect harmonies as different intervals suggest different amounts of harmonic stretch so instead we either temper the instrument favoring certain keys or we make the spacing even on a logarithmic series and just accept close enough. Jacob is likely using a series of intervals in and between the chords such that hes making perfect harmonies but the perfect harmony is sharp from the logarithmic note and he builds in approximately a quarter step in the series where on a keyboard instrument youd be forced to use notes that were slightly flat of the perfect note.
@@DaveDFFA so in other words he just used a normal chord progression that would modulate to G major, but sharpened each of the chords a little bit along the way? kind of anticlimactic. something actually impressive would be to have a modulation that only makes sense with additional notes to the 12, not just a slightly-out-of-tune copy-paste
Yup! The more complicated answer is he used just intonation to help reach that place easier Some intervals sound more “pure” this way, and they gravitate towards being slightly sharp or slightly flat from their equal temperament counterparts
@@DaveDFFA Yes, but how? How would one use just intervals to better modulate to a key a minor-3rd-and-a-half away? If your reference key is E, then what just intervals measured from E would allow a smoother modulation to G-half-sharp compared to their ET counterparts? Considering the ET major 3rd is about 16 cents sharp compared to its just counterpart, one could theoretically play 3 major chords a major 3rd apart, with shifting just intonation reference points, so that you're 48 cents flat by the time you return, e.g. E major -> G# major with the G# justly tuned to E G# major -> C major with the C justly tuned to G# C major -> E major with the E justly tuned to C The last E will thus sound 48 cents flat, i.e. it will be E-half-flat, which can be enharmonically respelled as D-half-sharp and used as the V of G-half-sharp. But that's not what he did, afaict.
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he made a half sharp sound like something soundable this man is insane
One day he'll make something I enjoy. There's something sterile about his production I just can't get behind (all the chords are tuned perhaps?). Absolutely brilliant theorist though!
He is too pretentious and focused on causing an impression. I´ve met several musicians like him. Give me Chet Baker or Nick Drake or Mateus Asato, etc, anytime...
@@jaconova You may appreciate this concert with Robert Glasper c.s. There is a Collier-influence (keyboard plays the vocal tones), yet there is emotional depth and pure musicianship. Warning: at times overly funky. ua-cam.com/video/P52Z1yMz2WY/v-deo.html
Yes, you're right. It's hard to describe... I think that maybe he lacks melancholy, sadness, deep emotion in the music. He probably never really suffered in his life. His music, however sophisticated, is just superficial joy and fun, also too clean, nothing raw in it... don't get me wrong, I'm not a hater, he is amazing. He just doesn't produce music appealing to me. Maybe later in life after he has some crisis and losses and suffering behind him...
I kinda felt the same way, until I saw him live, and there was all the raw emotion and soul that cameras can't capture and communicate. Also, when playing live there's less of that stack of voices and more of his solo voice, which I find more enjoyable.
I’d always wondered whether one could achieve harmony with quarter tones... obviously one could, mathematically speaking, but could it sound pleasing? It takes a lot of listening and comfort with dissonance to learn to appreciate quarter tones... growing up using a tonal language helps of course... but are our ears ready for harmony within quarter tones... for some people, possibly...
George, you're magnificent! I use all the "off key" methods you're using in my DJ mix. I've been mixing this way since i started in 2004. Absolute legend in my opinion.
Oh what so when Jacob sings G half sharp he's a "genius" but when I do it I'm a "terrible singer"??
😂
He does it with intention 😅😂
i’m not gonna tell you how he just said he finally got away with it & figured it out & made it work & then it was finally beauty
@@m.k3ys something flew over your head and it wasn't a bird nor a plane.
You're catching on.
Jacob Collier teaching a music class has the same energy as a 7 year old boy bringing his favourite action figure to show and tell.
That’s so true bruh😂
“Music is like an action figure.”
-Lao Tzu
yeah i totally agree im so important
I am honored to be the thousandth like.
100 haha I love it
He really does seem more and more like a cult leader, if the cult was all about just loving music and nothing else
Thats how cults usually start.
no no no youre way off on that one
@@yoontaelee9923 not really, everyone knows the best music groups are cults
@@yoontaelee9923 Have you been both a leader and a follower?
Fundamentalism is only as bad as the fundamentals.
*jacob sings a g half sharp* "no one sings in that key" i probably have, not intentionally, but i might have
hahahahaha, top comment!
humans love to speak in half shaps without knowing too... "so done" by the kid laroi is done in half-sharps
Jacob continues to prove that his music is so excellent that his audience forgets that he continues to commit crimes of fashion.
LOLOLOL
Yeah, he's wearing his t-shirt backwards (00:43)
Jacob had STYLE
I spit all over my keyboard reading this
LMAOOOO favorite comment
How To tell to someone you have perfect Pitch undirectly
"Jacob,Can we just stay in 440Hz?"
Must not be as perfect as people think
can you?o.O
@@jarod144 I have it. Every pitch sounds very distinct to me, so I can identify the pitch of LITERALLY ANY AUDIO I HEAR (unless the frequency is insanely high/low). However, it’s a little difficult to tune to exactly 440Hz. I end up tuning to 438Hz all the time, but that might just be me.
@@micah_rt5492 reminds me of that one time I heard my school's auditorium's grand piano was a bit sharp. My music teacher was there at the time, so I told him, "Hey, the piano's about 4Hz sharp." He pulled out his phone, opened a tuner app and played A4 - lo and behold, 444Hz.
um i prefer 442
I love how Jacob's always maximum excited telling you about his own discoveries.
I mean we would be too 🤣
In fairness, it’s always existed in microtonal music. For sure though he always reminds me of a kid on Christmas morning every time performs 👍🏼
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@@sethie_shots I completely agree but there's something completely special about Jacobs ability to "let us in" as people who are strictly used to western music theory and make this sort of stuff feel so clear and accessible and explained so simply and effectively
People with egos that size usually are
"nobody plays in that key"
Don't underestimate how out of tune I'm able to play.
Yup
Dude tune your piano already
The difference is intent haha
I swear his neckline goes lower every video i see him
ikr
Maybe necklines are what's constraining the rest of us from musical transcendence.
dOn'T yOu LeCtUrE mE wItH yOuR tHiRtY dOlLaR t-ShIrT
His neckline is in g half sharp
@@Bob-vp3dc I laughed so hard i started coughing oh my god
"G half-sharp, nobody ever sings in this key!"
My out of tune piano: "Am I a joke to you?"
Bon Iver and his piano: “Are you joking - we made a whole album that was half a semitone out!”
@@fraserbrowne1685 Which album?
@@yogibexargaming4600 For Emma
I freakin love how Jacob sees his creative process as one of discovery. He doesn’t claim to “own” any of his creations; he’s just exploring and discovering all that music can do with his absolutely mind boggling ear.
Imagine how terrible the world would be (no exaggeration) if our governments allowed people to copyright and patent every little aspect of music like chord transitions.
@@themodernshoe2466 I would kill myself. No kidding.
I agree.
@@themodernshoe2466 well there have been court cases for "stolen chord progressions" so its still kinda scary
This isn't anything new. Musicians did this kind of thing hundreds of years ago, before there was equal temperament. There were double sharps and flats, half and quarter sharps and flats as well. No one is using this in western music today. They do however use it in eastern music. [Middle East and Asia]
I've never heard Jacob curse before.
He always wanted a half sharp and a full curse.
@@gregg1431 Oh please. Sorry.
@@gregg1431 fuck is the modern Renaissance swear. So versatile. So infinitely useful. So syntactically complete. It’s a wonderful creation!
Just absolutely 100% extraordinary and amazing.
The GENIUS part of this is the transition to a half sharp key without it sounding ‘off-key’. !!!
It's weird to hear Jacob say "fucking amazing." Not that it matters, I just don't think I've heard him say the fuck word before lmao
He is learning how to emphasize...
He's English, he does swear, I'm telling you
“the fuck word”😂
@@aeiou1738@AeonAir
Good friend of mine said, "I have no doubt he's a genius, I just don't like his music." I feel like that actually kind of sums up my thoughts as well. I admire his energy and respect him as a musician. I watch these videos. I feel like there's something useful I could learn from it. But...I don't actually like the sound of his music. I'm just impressed by it.
Agreed
I’d recommend some of his more stripped back compositions if you do want to give him a proper shot. In the real early morning off of his first album is a great example of this for example. Also, his performance of hallelujah for bbc radio (not the Covid one but instead a transcription on UA-cam) is also wonderfully delicate, even if it is still quite adventurous on chord choices. A lot of his music is borderline overkill even for the most avid musicians and fans, but underneath the eclectic creativity of a musical genius there is still a thoughtful musician with great taste.
A friend of mine and I were talking about this. He said he thinks he uses too much cool music theory to the point where it feels overstuffed or something.
It’s like the most beautiful elegant cake you have ever seen, but it’s got a 4 inch layer of frosting
Maybe it's the sound of his voice, he could hire other singers more often, and only do the composing/editing part instead.
I like his music, but not his singing.
Agreed, for me it is too virtuoso and hysterical. But he’s a musical expert yes.
The dream to modulate to ghalfsharp specifically is wierdly... specific
It feels like seeing a new color
@@colereed7411 not a joke. Research synesthesia in artists. Some of your favorite creators surely have sound-color in some form.
@@JohnDoe-vv3idI know about synesthesia I thought this person was just joking
Swear to god I thought he was gonna start playing “A Thousand Miles” at 0:40
SAME
SAMEEEE
SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
The youtube algorithm really overestimated my musical knowledge
haha
Ya..We are 7th Graders and we are being taught PhD stuff.
@InayatTantry not rly. It's just a key that's not on the piano. It's a key between 2 notes
People with perfect pitch and don't recognise the half will not sleep the same night.
…huh?
Excuse me?
@@calebmurray6980 he’s saying if you know you have perfect pitch but you don’t notice the g half sharp then it’s actually not perfect which could be unsettling for some people i guess idk i don’t have perfect pitch
@@svnsparks spot on 😭
It's just really weird. I have perfect pitch, and my brain is basically tuned to A=441. Sometimes if I'm listening to baroque pitch music it gets tuned to 415. A lot of recordings (especially before the digital age) are sharper or flatter than that, and it's just disconcerting. The sensation of the G half sharp chords is just really weird, because the notes don't lock into place like I expect things to do in a 12-tone system.
I once saw Jacob cook a pop tart at a Holiday Inn Express by humming in countervailing microtones. Somebody else was using the toaster. Hard to control the scope, though. A little girl at a nearby table burned her mouth when the milk in her cereal bowl began to boil. So it goes.
fake
@@nathanrous1475 no i saw it too, it was scary but impressive
it's true, i was the holiday inn express in this story
You should have seen the waffles, they were a weird shape. Kind of round but like 4D shape. Must have been the half half sharp singing
@@nathanrous1475 What is real? What is fake? Reality is just a concept.
I ate the waffles, and oh man! They were delicious, but very hot. Tasted a little like pizza too.
In Arabic music theory we use half sharps ALL the time, its part of our scales. Our scales are made of 24 notes not 12 - But we jus call them quarter tones.
Our version of the major scale is called Rast and it is as folllows: (I will write b/2 for half a flat or #/2 for half a sharp)
C D Eb/2 F G A Bb/2 C
Our saddest most dramatic scale is called Saba scale:
D Eb/2 F F# A A# C D - i mean think about this scale for a second, look at all the congestion after the D - and offcourse its the WAY you use it is very important but I recommend any western person to youtube "Saba Scale improvisation" and you will just hear probably for the first time a new DIMENSION hidden notes you never knew could be brought out and create new emotions
I think this is a really interesting point, music is inherently Eurocentric and we disregard Arabic, Indian, Chinese and Japanese ways (to name a few) of tonality and scale making.
How would you normally label the notes ? I’m guessing the letters are a sort of translation for understanding but I’d love to know the original ways of describing an Arabic scale.
@@jamesturner2914 Arabic music always had a strong oral tradition that was passed down by ear, its only untill very recent in history that they adopted western notation after they had that big arabiv summi t was the first congressional arabic music summit in cairo 1932 is when they standardized alot of things to make it more global, kinda like the whole 440 standard tunin thing that made things more global and accesible so music can be more connected.
So other than that to make a quarter tone u jus simply add AN EXTRA dash so jus think of it as a sharp then add another sharp on the sharp so a DOUBLE SHARP! or a DOUBLE MINOR line/dash - thats how they notate it - but mind u in almost everybody i play with we never ever use any notation its very oral and by feeling, especially because no 2 people will play the identical same quarter tone, albeit it very close ur finger on a fretless board of the Oud for example can have slight diference between each person, - fretless instruments r the only proper way to play arabic scales so u r the one fully expressing your music, and not bounded by hard glued in frets like a guitar.
@@jamesturner2914 Music is not Eurocentric. Music in the west follow the western school, unsurprisingly. Nothing wrong with it. But don't forget for example flamenco in Spain with its arab influence, and other such influences in western music, such as the African contribution to blues and jazz. Other cultures still have their music school alive.
@@andre.1984 formal music theory and education are Eurocentric, that was the point I was making- not that all music around the world is homogeneous. Trust me when I say this, I’m a geography student who specialises in cultural geographies.
@@jamesturner2914 I think you should read again what I wrote before. This time, with open eyes.
This man is going to become a shirt eventually
hahahahah!
This man is literally music Jesus. The clothing choice, the rapture of his audience, the 'miracles' (musically speaking) he performs...
Note to self - Wear a 350 pound man/woman's shirt to imitate jesus
Him and Guthrie Govan!
and his initials are JC hahaha
I guess one of his followers must be a Judas who will cause his demise
John Petrucci would like to have a word
First time you heard Jacob Collier swear 01:13 (Ty Dolla is a bad influence xD)
Jacob Collier is coming close to become the founder of the Bards. Someday he will learn to cast spells and then we'll have it.
Arriving in such a key probably feels like finding an island which you normally can‘t see
the Mirage Island of keys
this guys music doesnt really speak to me much, but his musical TALENT? whoa boy now we're talkin
He knows he's a fucking genius... He gotta know...
pffffff
"It can't rise a major third because that'll put it in A flat, and that's like this 🙇♂️, you know?"
No, Jacob, I really don't.
"jihad it feels f***ing amazing man." - Captions. hahahaha
The way he is lecturing surrounded by a warmed and engaged audience reminds me so much of Terrence McKenna's lectures. People are there for the love of something bigger than them, in this case music!
From a parallel universe and right on to my screen.. I just love it
This might really be the future of classical music too, modulating a quarter pitch higher or lower to express different moods, feelings, colors etc. Extremely compelling and interesting thing, also tremendously difficult.
Not really realistic for most instruments, but it's certainly cool to think about and explore, and of course I do hope we see composers playing around with it insofar as mechanical logistics allow
@leonardochiodo5910 check out @ZheannaErose
@@ItsAsparageesemuch easier to do digitally though. Which is where a ton of ideas start
jacob collier saying "you know what i mean" is the most ironic thing i've ever heard
Jacob:
microtone exist
Musicians including me:
BOW BEFORE THE DARK LORD
I don't have perfect pitch, but I have relative pitch and I'm also really good at being in tune or knowing when I am not in tune with the music. it would be very difficult for me to sing in between notes unless I had the whole cord to listen to. The in-between chord! This is incredibly impressive.
You could not possibly catch me sitting within that group of nerds
His enthusiasm on these things never seems to disappear. That’s so inspiring!
Such an amazing musician!!! I just wish I liked his music
One of the, if not my most favorite moments in vocal arranging, and it's all thanks to the magic that you find once you break away from the dogma of equal temperament. Astounding.
I can't get enough of four magical chords :-)
What I love...
Total complete enthusiasm of Jacobs giving us his stuff.
Entertaining and informative 👍
Respectfully, Jacob takes the magic out of music. Good for education but bad for recreation.
His sheet music aren't made up of notes. They're frequencies.
Hi Abdon, yes indeed I wonder about how you would notate 1/2#G :-)
@@hugoapresname ‡
He seems like the guy at the jam session that jumps into conversations and starts beatboxing
I think this is the only video where I’ve heard him swear! 😄
now this is amodern musical prodogy, his music theory knowladge is insane, and dude is very talented and creative
I feel like ive always thought of this. Because we always talk about music and keys in semitones or full tones, but there is definitely things in between semitones as well because if you love singing or music youll know that you can in fact sing in between the space of a semitone.
Love your show. Amazing and inspiring.
dude I swear ur so talented like its out of this world
HOLY SHIT, NOT G HALF SHARP!!! OMG I THINK I JUST LOST CONTROL OF MY BOWELS!!!!eleven!!!
Maybe the only pop star that deserves being a star, by actually being both extraordinary and inspiring
For heaven's sake, somebody get this guy a shirt that fits.
Dude's like an experimental physicists but with music.
I'm glad he's so young coz I feel he'll do a LOT for music in his life, but not just in a traditional way as only a musician.
He's inspiring me in new ways I haven't felt before
In the Bleak Midwinter is my favorite Collier song besides Moon River, fucking tremendous
“No one sings in that key”. Well, I also used to think nobody sang in key ‘Q flat minor’… until I started accompanying the worship team at a certain church. Had to have my head tuned after each worship session.
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jacob saying "fucking amazing" made me like him even more
Instant chills.
Jacob says “I know a place.” Then takes you to one of his sessions.
That's fascinating how much fun he has "getting away with it", and I really didn't notice. But what I noticed was the incredible relief at the end of this song, when he moves back downwards to the original pitch: ua-cam.com/video/7-nRv0uQvH0/v-deo.html
hearing Jacob saying "fucking amazing" is probably more out there than anything I've heard come from him lol
This is probably my favorite clip in the history of the internet ever
Once in a hundred lifetime one encounters such a being. There is so much more than meets the eye or the ear. Jacob's music is the tangibly of sound. It provokes the gentle rise and shift of emotion with each changing chord.
i don’t know what he’s talking about. i sing in that key all the time; just accidentally.
Dammit, your pic got me
I did blew the screen.
*half accidentally
@@ZeferiniX Me, with dark mode: I don't have such weaknesses
Damn your profile pic lol
I love that he looks like Keanu Reeves from the first Bill and Ted.
It's like, he just hasn't started his cult *yet*
Is it just me or was this the first time you heard Jacob swear? lol
Guitarists do this all day with their whammy bars
explain please ...?
No they don't.
@@estebancamargottorres6985 modulating means shifting the pitch by less than one half step. this is what whammy bars do.
Nope, the whammy bar usage adds *colour* through having one instrument in the mix create deliberate tension (and release) to a song.
Here, Jacob modulates the song/piece itself to another *key*
@@andreasfrom582 ok sure. you understand what half sharp means?
absolutely brilliant
Bro I have never heard Jacob curse before 🤣 caught be off guard asf
Jacob: G half sharp, no one sings in that key man.
Seal singing kiss from rose in G half sharp: Am I a joke to you?
And Mac Ayres's Easy is in F half sharp I think
I reality, G half sharp would only exist in relation to another key or tuning. For example, if you were in a key with a standard tuning (A = 440) then you could modulate to a key that is not in the that tuning and could be a half sharp key. If "Kiss From a Rose" stays in one key the whole time, then it could be considered in a "normal key." In this case, it just isn't (A = 440). It could be simply in the key of G and it's not concert pitch. In the past, songs were written in keys that are not A = 440 and their keys were still referred to as key of G, key of C, etcetera. It's relative. Now if you modulate from key of C (standard concert pitch) to a key that is out of that, then you get the microtone designation. I don't think that applies to "Kiss from a Rose."
@@JTX8000 If it doesn't modulate, then it's just in a normal key, but not current concert pitch. The classical songs were played in keys that didn't have A = 440, but were still said to be in the key of C Major, G Major, C sharp minor, etcetera.
And I’m just nodding along even though I don’t understand shit lol
that crowd puts the sick in sycophants
Jacob's obsession with theory gets in the way of him making amazing music. He'll grow out if it, eventually. Then he'll achieve legend status.
Thank you 🙏 George
Perfect ears, open mind, big heart and endless imagination. Is he the Amadeus of our time or the Einstein of music? No. He’s Jacob effin’ Collier, and that’s enuff.
I literally start crying every time I hear this I hear this transition, there’s something so transcendant about it
His shirt makes me think of Kusco from Emperor's New Groove.
And the music, is beautiful as usual. I live and breathe the sense of wonder with him when hearing his music. So glad he is out there sharing with the world!
Man's fashion sense straight outta Nazareth
This is the aesthetically pleasing proof that limiting our music to the 12 note system was a mistake. The middle eastern world knows this. This fucking transcendent shaman of a man is just so intuitive with music that being immersed in western tones just didn't brainwash him into thinking they were the only "right" notes like it did the vast majority of us. It's awesome when people really run with their gifts like this, fuckin god speed on your life journey.
the GOAT in music stupidity
aw someones jealous
@@user-jf1hn2kg8l jealous of what? making bad and empty maximalist music????
@@nosubject3896 dude really said empty while referring to jacob collier 😂😂
Wait what makes it stupid
@@OliverSchlecter nothing, the person who wrote the comment was referring to themselves
That's amazing!
This man is so intressting and unike and just! I don't know how to describe it but as a person who is playing instruyments and has it as a hobby just loves it! I love him, fr!
Adam Neely needs to analyze this, and dissect the magical cords and how it leads to the G half sharp.
collier literally explains it in the rest of this video lol,
a quick tldr: is that he used those 4 chords and shifted some of the voices by a certain number of cents via each chord change, eventually landing on the target of G half #. We accept it because of the microtonal adjustments he made during that 4 chord setup. (The math/theory IS pretty insane though)
Id like to see it in an official capacity but i can say that i understand the concept. Harmony is often described with emotions, but there is also a component that has to do with the math of ratios. When vibrations line up we hear harmony but if a vibration is a little off we hear a "beat" the volume of the notes change at a regular rate as a vibration shifts from adding to subtracting. While we mostly tolerate this and cant avoid as listening spaces may also have standing waves that can do this to the music but when compared directly you will hear the warble if an interval is off from perfect. The issue is that when we try to space things equally tonally we get a logarithmic spacing of frequencies and while there are many near misses in a 12 tone system and also microtonal systems they arent perfect. We know the circle of 5th but if you actually follow a series of 3:2 ratio you dont actually land on an octave of the starting note, this is true of any "circle" of an interval. The musical system breaks down when we try to get perfect harmonies as different intervals suggest different amounts of harmonic stretch so instead we either temper the instrument favoring certain keys or we make the spacing even on a logarithmic series and just accept close enough. Jacob is likely using a series of intervals in and between the chords such that hes making perfect harmonies but the perfect harmony is sharp from the logarithmic note and he builds in approximately a quarter step in the series where on a keyboard instrument youd be forced to use notes that were slightly flat of the perfect note.
@@DaveDFFA so in other words he just used a normal chord progression that would modulate to G major, but sharpened each of the chords a little bit along the way? kind of anticlimactic. something actually impressive would be to have a modulation that only makes sense with additional notes to the 12, not just a slightly-out-of-tune copy-paste
Yup!
The more complicated answer is he used just intonation to help reach that place easier
Some intervals sound more “pure” this way, and they gravitate towards being slightly sharp or slightly flat from their equal temperament counterparts
@@DaveDFFA Yes, but how? How would one use just intervals to better modulate to a key a minor-3rd-and-a-half away? If your reference key is E, then what just intervals measured from E would allow a smoother modulation to G-half-sharp compared to their ET counterparts?
Considering the ET major 3rd is about 16 cents sharp compared to its just counterpart, one could theoretically play 3 major chords a major 3rd apart, with shifting just intonation reference points, so that you're 48 cents flat by the time you return, e.g.
E major -> G# major with the G# justly tuned to E
G# major -> C major with the C justly tuned to G#
C major -> E major with the E justly tuned to C
The last E will thus sound 48 cents flat, i.e. it will be E-half-flat, which can be enharmonically respelled as D-half-sharp and used as the V of G-half-sharp.
But that's not what he did, afaict.
he made a half sharp sound like something soundable this man is insane
Sounded surprisingly good and charming
First thing came to my mind was the beautiful harmonies and arrangements of Rod Temperton. And Clare Fischer.
Plot twist:
He fūcked up the tuning and pretends it was deliberate afterwards.
One day he'll make something I enjoy. There's something sterile about his production I just can't get behind (all the chords are tuned perhaps?). Absolutely brilliant theorist though!
He is too pretentious and focused on causing an impression. I´ve met several musicians like him. Give me Chet Baker or Nick Drake or Mateus Asato, etc, anytime...
@@jaconova You may appreciate this concert with Robert Glasper c.s. There is a Collier-influence (keyboard plays the vocal tones), yet there is emotional depth and pure musicianship. Warning: at times overly funky. ua-cam.com/video/P52Z1yMz2WY/v-deo.html
Yes, you're right. It's hard to describe... I think that maybe he lacks melancholy, sadness, deep emotion in the music. He probably never really suffered in his life. His music, however sophisticated, is just superficial joy and fun, also too clean, nothing raw in it... don't get me wrong, I'm not a hater, he is amazing. He just doesn't produce music appealing to me. Maybe later in life after he has some crisis and losses and suffering behind him...
I kinda felt the same way, until I saw him live, and there was all the raw emotion and soul that cameras can't capture and communicate. Also, when playing live there's less of that stack of voices and more of his solo voice, which I find more enjoyable.
"Make Me Cry" seems to be an exception but other than that I'd have to agree.
Beautiful ❤
He has a one of a kind ability to clearly explain this stuff
I’d always wondered whether one could achieve harmony with quarter tones... obviously one could, mathematically speaking, but could it sound pleasing? It takes a lot of listening and comfort with dissonance to learn to appreciate quarter tones... growing up using a tonal language helps of course... but are our ears ready for harmony within quarter tones... for some people, possibly...
this is what happens when you become so educated you lose touch with relevance
Magical 😌
I love the hand motions when describing the keys. Like what does it even mean
George, you're magnificent! I use all the "off key" methods you're using in my DJ mix. I've been mixing this way since i started in 2004. Absolute legend in my opinion.
This is amazing!
And I understood nothing.
Every one claps and smiles and has no clue what he did 😂😂😂😂
What a freak of nature!!!