I was once told by a traditional shoe shop owner that there were also a couple of things to be aware of when buying shoes with leather soles. Ideally, and to maximise the life of the soles, firstly don't go out in the wet until the soles have patinated. Secondly, if possible, avoid tarmac until the soles have patinated. If possible, walk on paved pavements (sidewalks), tarmac will put small rips in a new sole.
Worn lots of brogues. In the US they are not seen as less than formal. I love the color, especially what you have done to the toe, Gorgeous! Great video.
Dear Ash, I stumbled upon this video and enjoyed it so much I have subscribed. I have several pairs of Loakes but none look as well presented as these. I found your commentary almost hypnotic and look forward to watching more. Many thanks. James
You explained the mirror gloss very well, I have always wondered how that look was achieved. You inspired me to buy some mirror gloss in black and have a go!
In a delightful twist of fate, I’ve just ordered a pair of conker brown birkdales. Whilst waiting for them to be delivered, I thought I’d investigate UA-cam to see suggestions of how best to care for them. Lo and behold, I was lucky enough to stumble across this video at my first attempt. I salute your taste in shoes, and thank you for your excellent advice and demonstration, Sir!
My Birkdales are going well, I've since added a black pair to my collection as well. Good solid shoes that look great in various situations and modestly priced to boot! In fact, I've just finished a full review video that I'll be releasing very soon.
Never liked brogues historically due to memories of junior school ! After watching a number of your videos you’ve changed mind. I’m going to consider buying the very same shoes shortly.
I am very happy as of last week I started my shoe journey with my first decent and respectable pair of shoes. I purchased, as opposed to my priority list, the kind that was meant to be as the last or a shoe for a change but since the opportunity was there I had to take them. I got myself a lovely pair of Cheaney plain Bluchers grained leather in cognac brown equipped with dainite soles.
Great choice, Cheaney make a fantastic shoe and I love their heritage. I visited their factory in March 2020 - it was like being transported back to the Victorian era. Joyful!!!
I really enjoyed this video. I have taken to wear brogue shoes in my business settings, I think they are very distinctive in their look and style. I also agree that the shine on the shoe makes them more distinctive. .
Stunning , Brown and reds seems to offer a more rewarding palette than black at least until I started using blue creams and polishes on the black canvas . I’m wondering if you work the sole as well ? I do for shoes thst I wear for up market occasions otherwise it’s straight to the cobblers to put on those hard wearing tread pieces to add years to the soles life , especially during the wet weather .
Great looking shoe Ash and great video. You’re videos are informative, but also allow you to step back from life and forget the everyday stresses at the same time. Great work.
Hi Ash, I wasn’t particularly keen on the shoes when I first saw them - just not my style. However, with the two tone black polish on the top cap they looked fantastic. Really impressed with the final results. Great work. Russ
Great video. If I was to make a recommendation for this particular colour. I would say that after using the acetone, I would use beige leather dye. I only use Fiebing beige dye for this, so I can't speak for any other brand. At 2:15 you can see the variation in shades. Polish cannot make the lightest to dark, without making the dark darker. The beige dye would give you a nicer base for all the Saphir products, and you would end up with a better finish.
@@TheChapsGuidedo you mind if I ask who you recommend for brushes and shoe trees? I’d like to buy higher end versions of those as well as my brush is worn out and I’ve never owned a shoe tree before. You convinced me it’s time!
Great looking pair, including the last and the color. I also consider the Loake 1880 line to be fantastic value for the money, they have good quality leather and are carefully and skillfully assembled. Congratulations.
Hey ash! Awesome videos! I am certainly no chap (yet), i stumbled onto your channel looking for some shoes for my wedding day. My first pair of proper shoes. I have since watched so many of your videos and went for a pair of dark brown toe cap oxfords from Cheaney and let me tell you i love them. As a bonus they had a sale on 😁 Now i find myself looking at shoe care products and reviews 😂Thanks for the content and keep it up ❤
I've been a user of Renapur for well over a decade, picked some up at a local county fair a long time ago. Its a good leather balsam and I use it regularly on my leather luggage, briefcases, etc amd my wife uses it on her horse saddles to great effect. However, I have never found it to be less compatible for use on higher quality footwear with regards to building a shine. I would happily use it on work/walking boots, etc. but I steer clear of better leathers, which will also have a wax final layer, as the balsam just doesn't mix well for me. Great stuff though and incredibly modestly priced.
Fully concur. Not ideal for areas requiring a high shine, but good to work into stressed areas such as creases to prevent cracking and splitting. As you say, good value for money and long lasting.
Hi, great video. You mentioned that you would do a video on the versatility of the brogue shoe. I’d love to see that, especially when wearing with a suit.
Burnished conker is a really wonderful colour - I'm a sucker for leather with a hint of red of some kind. I do remove the laces, but not every time. I usually try and avoid removing the shoelaces if possible to avoid stress on the eyelets and laces, but if I'm planning a big overhaul job they come out for sure.
Why ever would you need to polish brand new shoes I thought when I noticed the video. Having watched it I see where I've been going wrong all this time (OK, one of the things I've been doing wrong). Especially love the shine you give them. Having made my mind up to buy my first pair of Loakes in the spring I know now how to prepare them for service from the start. I just discovered your channel a month or two back. Very grateful for your advice and the information you fill your videos with.
I have found that they usually last about twice as long as leather in most circumstances, although they make a big difference in the winter - better protection from the elements.
Another fascinating video. Thank you so much for doing it; that was very helpful. I too am a fan of Saphire products. I'm much more familiar with American brands (Alden, Allen Edmonds, etc) than Loake. Is Loake you preferred British shoe brand? I must say that after watching your video I am seriously considering getting a pair of the brogues.
To be honest Loake is an entry-level (at the 1880 range) good shoe. Not great by any means, but for the price they are hard to beat. The 1880 range are great quality, British made and well constructed. I personally think they are of equal measure to Allen Edmonds and can be purchased for very good prices - I will be doing a full review video on these brogues in a while (I also bought a black pair at the same time). Despite the sticker price being £280 for these shoes, I managed to get them from ebay for under £100. For that price, these are unbeatable value.
Great video and great pair of shoes, sir! I didn't know is recommended to condition the shoes before the first wearing, many thanks for the advice. Cheers from Spain.
mine look new after polishing the shit out of them! they had some white spots on them when they arrived so used a close matching color and yeah got fixed!
A handsome pair of Brogues fit for a gentleman. A comprehensive care tutorial. Could I ask if you have any advice or opinion on heel and toe taps. Thank you Ash.
Hi, as I favour Dainite soles, I don't find the issues of wear at the heel and toe which are generally ameliorated by the addition of plates to the heel and toe, but there is one observation I would make. The steel heel & toe plates (particularly the heel) are prone to emit excessive noise when walking and the associated 'clip clop' sounds I find to be very irritating. When I have previously employed plates to my heels, I have used rubber plates, which work very well and without the characteristic sound effects of the rag & bone man's nag, as it ambles down the cobbled streets of South London.
@The Chap's Guide Agreed, the equine impersonation is not the one I care to achieve either. I shall try these Dainite soles, forego the taps and observe the wear. Many thanks.
Another great video, Ash. I'm looking to invest in some quality footwear and can't decide between Loake and Cheaney. Cheaney appear, according to many online reviews, to be slightly superior to Loake, but Loake seem to be better value especially their seconds. What's your opinion on the brands in that price range? Thanks.
In my opinion - and I say this as an owner of both Loake and Cheaney shoes and I have also visited both factories in Northants earlier this year - Cheaney is the better quality product. They have a smaller output of footwear from their smallish factory and I would say the quality level is higher, as indeed is the price! Loake is a much larger producer and have a much larger catalogue of products. But, that said, if you stick to the Loake 1880 range you are talking great quality and a great price. The shoes featured in this video I purchased from ebay for about £110. They were brand new and immaculate (not seconds) - I loved the shoes, so I also purchased a black pair of the same model (brand new, etc.) same retailer for £91 (discount for repeat custom). Their retail price is £285 on the Loake website and I would happily pay that, as they are easily of that level of quality. The point is, Cheaney are a touch better quality and have better heritage, but Loake are almost as good and half the price - Good luck with your shoe hunting!
Yes I do, but not every time. I usually try and avoid removing the shoelaces if possible to avoid stress on the eyelets and laces, but if I'm planning a big overhaul job, I take them out for sure.Glad you enjoy the vids - there are a few more shoe/boot videos coming soon.
Excellent video Ash. Where are your cedar shoe trees from, I value your opinion as iam just getting started. Just acquired my first quality pair of Grenson Fred boots. Thank you
I usually buy from Amazon and aim to pay no more than £15 for a pair. Don't get too precious about shoe trees, they are a simple thing and should not cost the earth.
Excellent job there , I didn't know you could actually get a dedicated mirror gloss , I remember the kiwi parade gloss in black , many years ago , not sure if you can still get it ?
@@nigelmoscrop9987 get it but fortunately you may now have access to decent care products 😎 I mean Saphir, Famaco, Bick4, Red Wing etc without the easy shine that ruins the uppers.
A Loake chap from Canada. Thanks so much, excellent information. I have this pair as well. Do you find the renovator darkens the leather after application?
I don't think renovateur makes a marked difference, but I imagine a very slight darkening will take place over time and repeated usage. Personally, I really value this patination that takes place and I like the way that the shoes become distinctly unique as they age. But to answer your question - renovateur will alter the original colour, but no more so than any other neutral polish/cream, but I think this is a worthy sacrifice for the positives that it imparts to the shoe.
Love your videos, just wondering though in this one you said you used Mid brown shoe polish, but it looks more like the yellow. Was it mid brown you used?
Before seeing this video, I polished my new shoes with kiwi tan polish. They are still shiny now. I now have a brown Saphir Creme Surfine Cream shoe polish. Do I need to remove the kiwi first before using the saphir or just wait until the present shine dulls? Cheers.
I will be following this video up with. review of these brogues after some 'wearing in' time and I will be using the black pair to demonstrate how to go from factory finish to mirror shine in easy steps. Coming soon.
Hi Ash, does the horse hair brush become contaminated with which ever colour polish you use, and if so do you clean it between different applications? Regards Keith.
Will this process work on my burgundy Loake Royals? I bought them two years ago, only worn them once! I bought the cedar shoe trees, they smell great. Thanks for the great vid. Cheers, Keith W
Congrats on the new shoes - Loake Royals will come up beautifully with this process and should look great. I'm sure they will serve you very well indeed.
@@TheChapsGuide I just saw them the other day in this video. Touring One Of London's Oldest Clubs | Walking Tour With Simon Cundey. Simon Cudney is the lead tailor at Henry Poole & CO. Being American I have learned all of these things online, And I really appreciate your content, Being that I have British heritage and history estranges me from my native culture. One day I will visit London and make the rounds to Pool & CO, Lock Hatterist, And John Lobb. I have a pair of Cheany Oxfords right now that serve my purpose of formal dress, But as you illustrate, Properly done these items are a lifelong investment. Keep up the good work!
Great video in caring for shoes. I have a question. I have a beautiful pair of Loake tan Chelsea boots but i have managed to scuff them around the heel area. Have you any suggestions on how i might be able to remove that? I have tried polishing them several times but no joy so far.
My best suggestion would be Saphir Renovating Cream, which can really help with bad scuffs and even serious gouges. This video by Kirby Allison is an excellent tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/E6bxuaDyr48/v-deo.html
Chaps, I can vouch for the Saphir Crème Rénovatrice. I filled a gouge that my son had inflicted on the toe cap of his Loake brogues. Some careful "dibbing" with the tip of a scalpel blade (jeweller's eye glass required for me, I'm afraid) and then shave off the excess with that same blade once dry and hey presto! Finish with a few coats of Saphir wax and mirror polish and you can barely see where the damage was and is still looking good some months later. It's not cheap at around £10 for (I think) a 25ml tube, but it does a terrific job.
Thanks for the video! I also brought a pair of Loake Royal Brogue in Burgundy under "Loake Shoemaker". May I know your view that Is there any significant difference (maybe quality?) between the 1880 Legacy & Loake Shoemaker? Also, after the first polish, how long will it be the best to apply the 2nd time? Thanks!!!!
Shoemaker are the 2nd tier range from Loake (after the various 1880 ranges), but they are still good quality and well made for the very competitive price. Apply polish when the shoe needs it, when the lustre (shine) becomes dull and requires a touch-up. Enjoy!!
Thanks for the video. I’ve recently discovered your channel and have been watching all your videos, as I’ve started my shoe journey. I’ve just purchased a pair of tan loake burfords and various Saphir products. Do you have a link or site where you purchase your cedar shoes trees from for £20? Look forward to seeing more content!
Congrats on the new purchase, cedar shoes trees will keep those shoes looking great. I usually buy trees from Amazon and limit myself to staying under £25 a pair. There are many, many option and all are essentially good. I would not recommend any specific pair, as I usually swap brands all the time and they all perform equally well.
Good afternoon Ash, I have recently purchased a pair of boots from Loake bros and was wondering if I should put wax on top of loakes cream polish or just use saphir renovateur and Loakes cream polish only? Kind regards
Thank you very much Ash for your kind response. I purchased my first pair of Loake on your recommendation and I am very pleased with my purchase. Thank you for your great recommendation. Keep up the great work and fantastic content on your channel it's superb. Many thanks again, kind regards.
When I was 16 or 17 I ruined my first two pairs completely new lacquer shoes, just putting a spray over them. A spray, promising a „long-standing shine“. Half an hour later after applying I saw the paint went stains, completely devastating the view of both previously beautiful pairs (one black and one rotten cherry) 😢
I looked at this brand and this very show this morning. A little advice please. Could you wear this shoe with a pair of Levi's? Even though it's a 'casual' shoe, would matching it with a pair of jeans be too much? Cheers
This shoe is a little more casual than some other brogues, due to the derby-style lacing system and Dainite soles, so I would say a reserved yes - however, it would depend on the jeans that you intend to pair them with - if they are a relaxed fit and not too 'skinny' I would say these may pair very well, but if you are in the habit of wearing your jeans extremely close to the contours of the body (tight) - maybe these would look too formal. Hope that assists.
@@TheChapsGuidethanks for the reply, very helpful. My jeans are more of a relaxed fit, definitely not skinny lol I'll go back with the jeans I intend to wear with them and hopefully can make a more I formed choice
I'm a big proponent of using shoe trees with all my 'good' shoes, I always buy a new pair with any new shoes I invest it - they stay together forever from that point on. I get mine from Amazon, nothing fancy, just good cedar - here are the ones I usually go for (very modestly priced) - www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01MRITT0F/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=B01MRITT0F&linkCode=as2&tag=ashjones36-21&linkId=a819acdd39aa0341fc9aa4dedb037312
You made me check to see what I was wearing in the vid - its a DJ36 (116234) blue dial on jubilee. My first nice watch and one I still love to wear more than anything else. Thanks for noticing.
Just a quick question Ash. If I apply the Black mirror polish to my brown Loakes brogues as you have done, do I finish off with the brush to enhance the shine?
You could apply the brush if you are seeking to darken the overall look of the shoe, or just apply the polish to the areas you wish to provide with darker accents and brush off accordingly. Use the black sparingly and apply a little at a time until you achieve the desired effect. Remember, nothing you do can harm the original finish, so experiment a little and see what comes out. Good luck!
@@TheChapsGuide Awesome, thanks! I had a salesperson tell me to remove them after 3 weeks otherwise they will dry out the leather... which sounded ridiculous.
I have the tan loake brogues . I have a horse hair brush I use on darker polished shoes do I need a different brush for the lighter tan colour? Don't want that dark wax transfering? Is that an issue?
I always pronounce "Renovateur" in the same way I pronounce "amateur". It just seems to make sense. I also don't pronounce "d'Or" like "Dior" - the apostrophe is telling me to skip a syllable and pronounce it like "door". If a chap is confronted by a wine list which is all in French, these little rules could make all the difference. 🍷 e.g. "Coteaux d'Aix en Provence" - d'Aix is pronounced "daix" (= hillsides of Aix en Provence).
Maybe to point out, if you go MTO / bespoke you don't need polish the shoes if straight from the factory / maker. I'd be careful with an early mirror shine as during break in, the wax can otherwise tear off some color. I think it's good like in your video that you didnt overdo it. Good video.
Auto Glym the car care product people make a Vinyl and Rubber care product that's just the ticket for rubber soles, wipe it on, let dry, and brush to a lustre. Nearly as good as bulling the arch of leather soles :)
Standard (normal) shoe size is 8 - 10 in UK. Perhaps you have big feet. My condolences, please don’t let it hold you back in life or make you feel subconscious
I was once told by a traditional shoe shop owner that there were also a couple of things to be aware of when buying shoes with leather soles. Ideally, and to maximise the life of the soles, firstly don't go out in the wet until the soles have patinated. Secondly, if possible,
avoid tarmac until the soles have patinated. If possible, walk on paved pavements (sidewalks), tarmac will put small rips in a new sole.
Helpful! Never thought to treat shoes straight from the box. Makes sense and that will now be a part of my unboxing routine! Thank you!
Worn lots of brogues. In the US they are not seen as less than formal. I love the color, especially what you have done to the toe, Gorgeous! Great video.
You will never go wrong with brogues. Thank you Chap for the video. I specifically like the dainite soles .
Living in a country where we get a fair bit of rain, I always go for the Dainite.
Brouge is the best
Dear Ash,
I stumbled upon this video and enjoyed it so much I have subscribed. I have several pairs of Loakes but none look as well presented as these. I found your commentary almost hypnotic and look forward to watching more. Many thanks. James
Welcome aboard!
Shoes like those really represent elegance and decency.
You explained the mirror gloss very well, I have always wondered how that look was achieved. You inspired me to buy some mirror gloss in black and have a go!
Absolutely stunning after that black mirror shine, that's an idea I'm definitely going to steal!
Thank you man.
I am a big fan of you from Iraq 🇮🇶.
Very impressive, looks great. I’d have taken the laces out though.
I think it is much better if you remove the laces. I never leave the laces in the shoes when I polish them
The long wingtips look lovely.
In a delightful twist of fate, I’ve just ordered a pair of conker brown birkdales. Whilst waiting for them to be delivered, I thought I’d investigate UA-cam to see suggestions of how best to care for them. Lo and behold, I was lucky enough to stumble across this video at my first attempt. I salute your taste in shoes, and thank you for your excellent advice and demonstration, Sir!
My Birkdales are going well, I've since added a black pair to my collection as well. Good solid shoes that look great in various situations and modestly priced to boot! In fact, I've just finished a full review video that I'll be releasing very soon.
I shall look forward to seeing it!
Never liked brogues historically due to memories of junior school !
After watching a number of your videos you’ve changed mind. I’m going to consider buying the very same shoes shortly.
Welcome back!
I am very happy as of last week I started my shoe journey with my first decent and respectable pair of shoes. I purchased, as opposed to my priority list, the kind that was meant to be as the last or a shoe for a change but since the opportunity was there I had to take them. I got myself a lovely pair of Cheaney plain Bluchers grained leather in cognac brown equipped with dainite soles.
Great choice, Cheaney make a fantastic shoe and I love their heritage. I visited their factory in March 2020 - it was like being transported back to the Victorian era. Joyful!!!
I really enjoyed this video. I have taken to wear brogue shoes in my business settings, I think they are very distinctive in their look and style. I also agree that the shine on the shoe makes them more distinctive. .
Stunning , Brown and reds seems to offer a more rewarding palette than black at least until I started using blue creams and polishes on the black canvas . I’m wondering if you work the sole as well ? I do for shoes thst I wear for up market occasions otherwise it’s straight to the cobblers to put on those hard wearing tread pieces to add years to the soles life , especially during the wet weather .
Great looking shoe Ash and great video. You’re videos are informative, but also allow you to step back from life and forget the everyday stresses at the same time. Great work.
Thanks Buddy, making them gives me the same feeling - a moment of calm amidst the maddness!
Hi Ash, I wasn’t particularly keen on the shoes when I first saw them - just not my style. However, with the two tone black polish on the top cap they looked fantastic. Really impressed with the final results.
Great work.
Russ
Fantastic video. Thank you. I'd like to see your brogues collection with information on how you wear them. Thank you in anticipation
Great video.
If I was to make a recommendation for this particular colour.
I would say that after using the acetone, I would use beige leather dye.
I only use Fiebing beige dye for this, so I can't speak for any other brand.
At 2:15 you can see the variation in shades.
Polish cannot make the lightest to dark, without making the dark darker.
The beige dye would give you a nicer base for all the Saphir products, and you would end up with a better finish.
Really appreciate this video. I’ve been polishing my shoes totally wrong all these years. Thank you for making this guide for us
Happy to help!
@@TheChapsGuidedo you mind if I ask who you recommend for brushes and shoe trees? I’d like to buy higher end versions of those as well as my brush is worn out and I’ve never owned a shoe tree before.
You convinced me it’s time!
What lovely shoes, sir.
Great looking pair, including the last and the color. I also consider the Loake 1880 line to be fantastic value for the money, they have good quality leather and are carefully and skillfully assembled. Congratulations.
Excellent video. Your presentation is immaculate and very insightful.
I ordered the Loake Bikdales in Conker Brown after watching your video.
Glad it was helpful! They are truly great shoes.
A great looking pair of shoes.
Hey ash! Awesome videos! I am certainly no chap (yet), i stumbled onto your channel looking for some shoes for my wedding day. My first pair of proper shoes. I have since watched so many of your videos and went for a pair of dark brown toe cap oxfords from Cheaney and let me tell you i love them. As a bonus they had a sale on 😁
Now i find myself looking at shoe care products and reviews 😂Thanks for the content and keep it up ❤
Glad you like them!
Yet anothe great video. Thank you for introducing Saphire Renovator and the mirror shine. Will add it to my shoe care kit.
You are so welcome!
I use those Saphir products on all my leather shoes and belts. I have even put the cream on my saddle.
I use their saddle soap on my shoes too - works wonders
Great stuff Ash. I find Renapur to be a good leather feed and renovator. Being neutral it works well on all smooth finished leathers.
I've been a user of Renapur for well over a decade, picked some up at a local county fair a long time ago. Its a good leather balsam and I use it regularly on my leather luggage, briefcases, etc amd my wife uses it on her horse saddles to great effect. However, I have never found it to be less compatible for use on higher quality footwear with regards to building a shine. I would happily use it on work/walking boots, etc. but I steer clear of better leathers, which will also have a wax final layer, as the balsam just doesn't mix well for me. Great stuff though and incredibly modestly priced.
Fully concur. Not ideal for areas requiring a high shine, but good to work into stressed areas such as creases to prevent cracking and splitting. As you say, good value for money and long lasting.
By pure co-incidence my new Tricker Durham Country Brogue Tan Cross Hatch Calf hsoes arrived just 5 minutes ago. My very pair of quality shotes.
You are a very lucky gentleman - I envy you!
Thanks You Ash. On your recommendation as well.
Hi, great video. You mentioned that you would do a video on the versatility of the brogue shoe. I’d love to see that, especially when wearing with a suit.
Coming soon!
I like to apply mirror shine to the back of the shoe too. Same process
Beautiful shoe. Love that shine 😍
That is a beautiful color for a longwing derby. Enjoy your new shoes 😎 Don't you remove the laces before polishing?
Burnished conker is a really wonderful colour - I'm a sucker for leather with a hint of red of some kind. I do remove the laces, but not every time. I usually try and avoid removing the shoelaces if possible to avoid stress on the eyelets and laces, but if I'm planning a big overhaul job they come out for sure.
Why ever would you need to polish brand new shoes I thought when I noticed the video. Having watched it I see where I've been going wrong all this time (OK, one of the things I've been doing wrong). Especially love the shine you give them. Having made my mind up to buy my first pair of Loakes in the spring I know now how to prepare them for service from the start.
I just discovered your channel a month or two back. Very grateful for your advice and the information you fill your videos with.
Beautiful solid shoes. Should last years. I wonder how long Dainite soles last.
I have found that they usually last about twice as long as leather in most circumstances, although they make a big difference in the winter - better protection from the elements.
Really enjoyed this video... I like your presenting style
Lovely colour you've imparted on those comrade! Very nice pair to pair with many ensambles
They have a great colour - Burnished Conker - even sounds rather cool!!
I’d be grateful for a link to the shoe trees. Thank you!
Another fascinating video. Thank you so much for doing it; that was very helpful. I too am a fan of Saphire products. I'm much more familiar with American brands (Alden, Allen Edmonds, etc) than Loake. Is Loake you preferred British shoe brand? I must say that after watching your video I am seriously considering getting a pair of the brogues.
To be honest Loake is an entry-level (at the 1880 range) good shoe. Not great by any means, but for the price they are hard to beat. The 1880 range are great quality, British made and well constructed. I personally think they are of equal measure to Allen Edmonds and can be purchased for very good prices - I will be doing a full review video on these brogues in a while (I also bought a black pair at the same time). Despite the sticker price being £280 for these shoes, I managed to get them from ebay for under £100. For that price, these are unbeatable value.
Excellent video! I have a pair of Loake brogues of the same model, but in a dark brown shade.
I have a pair of black Churches brogues, could you do a vid on a quality pair of black shoes? Great tips👍🏼👍🏼
Great idea
Great video and great pair of shoes, sir! I didn't know is recommended to condition the shoes before the first wearing, many thanks for the advice. Cheers from Spain.
Happy to help!
Thank you so much for the instructive video. I enjoyed every minute of it while I learnt new things. regards
I did enjoy watching that great
mine look new after polishing the shit out of them! they had some white spots on them when they arrived so used a close matching color and yeah got fixed!
A handsome pair of Brogues fit for a gentleman. A comprehensive care tutorial.
Could I ask if you have any advice or opinion on heel and toe taps.
Thank you Ash.
Hi, as I favour Dainite soles, I don't find the issues of wear at the heel and toe which are generally ameliorated by the addition of plates to the heel and toe, but there is one observation I would make. The steel heel & toe plates (particularly the heel) are prone to emit excessive noise when walking and the associated 'clip clop' sounds I find to be very irritating. When I have previously employed plates to my heels, I have used rubber plates, which work very well and without the characteristic sound effects of the rag & bone man's nag, as it ambles down the cobbled streets of South London.
@The Chap's Guide Agreed, the equine impersonation is not the one I care to achieve either. I shall try these Dainite soles, forego the taps and observe the wear. Many thanks.
Another great video, Ash. I'm looking to invest in some quality footwear and can't decide between Loake and Cheaney. Cheaney appear, according to many online reviews, to be slightly superior to Loake, but Loake seem to be better value especially their seconds. What's your opinion on the brands in that price range? Thanks.
In my opinion - and I say this as an owner of both Loake and Cheaney shoes and I have also visited both factories in Northants earlier this year - Cheaney is the better quality product. They have a smaller output of footwear from their smallish factory and I would say the quality level is higher, as indeed is the price! Loake is a much larger producer and have a much larger catalogue of products. But, that said, if you stick to the Loake 1880 range you are talking great quality and a great price. The shoes featured in this video I purchased from ebay for about £110. They were brand new and immaculate (not seconds) - I loved the shoes, so I also purchased a black pair of the same model (brand new, etc.) same retailer for £91 (discount for repeat custom). Their retail price is £285 on the Loake website and I would happily pay that, as they are easily of that level of quality. The point is, Cheaney are a touch better quality and have better heritage, but Loake are almost as good and half the price - Good luck with your shoe hunting!
Great commentary
Really enjoy these videos, one question. Do you ever take your laces out before polishing?
Yes I do, but not every time. I usually try and avoid removing the shoelaces if possible to avoid stress on the eyelets and laces, but if I'm planning a big overhaul job, I take them out for sure.Glad you enjoy the vids - there are a few more shoe/boot videos coming soon.
Excellent video Ash. Where are your cedar shoe trees from, I value your opinion as iam just getting started. Just acquired my first quality pair of Grenson Fred boots. Thank you
I usually buy from Amazon and aim to pay no more than £15 for a pair. Don't get too precious about shoe trees, they are a simple thing and should not cost the earth.
Excellent job there , I didn't know you could actually get a dedicated mirror gloss , I remember the kiwi parade gloss in black , many years ago , not sure if you can still get it ?
Hope you can’t as it contains silicone that blocks the pores of the leather : very bad idea longevity wise.
@@SeriousMist It was the only polish that was available at the time
@@nigelmoscrop9987 get it but fortunately you may now have access to decent care products 😎
I mean Saphir, Famaco, Bick4, Red Wing etc without the easy shine that ruins the uppers.
A Loake chap from Canada. Thanks so much, excellent information. I have this pair as well. Do you find the renovator darkens the leather after application?
I don't think renovateur makes a marked difference, but I imagine a very slight darkening will take place over time and repeated usage. Personally, I really value this patination that takes place and I like the way that the shoes become distinctly unique as they age. But to answer your question - renovateur will alter the original colour, but no more so than any other neutral polish/cream, but I think this is a worthy sacrifice for the positives that it imparts to the shoe.
Agreed... thanks for the input and your videos.
Love your videos, just wondering though in this one you said you used Mid brown shoe polish, but it looks more like the yellow. Was it mid brown you used?
It was definitely mid-brown. It does look rather pale, but that is just the colour.
Detailed explanation. Thanks.
Before seeing this video, I polished my new shoes with kiwi tan polish. They are still shiny now. I now have a brown Saphir Creme Surfine Cream shoe polish. Do I need to remove the kiwi first before using the saphir or just wait until the present shine dulls? Cheers.
Just add it when the shoe needs it's next polish, it is fine to add it over the top of the Kiwi.
@@TheChapsGuide Cheers. I was worried about overpolishing which I've discovered can be a problem. Much obliged.
great video, Ash beautiful Loakes
They really pack a punch for the price (which, incidentally was way below the sticker price as I got them on ebay for just a shade over £100)
Those shies are stunning
They came up rather nice. I bought a black pair at the same time - not tried to polish them yet!
I saw a site that said if you use blue on black shoes when bulling it gives a deeper shine.
Hope you show us your black one's.
I will be following this video up with. review of these brogues after some 'wearing in' time and I will be using the black pair to demonstrate how to go from factory finish to mirror shine in easy steps. Coming soon.
Whats the fit on these like compared to the Codogans capital last ?
Very similar, quite roomy and not slim in any way. True to size I'd say.
Question: Would you apply the Renovateur on top of the cream and wax polishes next time you decide to treat the shoes?
Yes. It seeps through and does its good work.
Hi Ash, does the horse hair brush become contaminated with which ever colour polish you use, and if so do you clean it between different applications? Regards Keith.
One for black and one for brown. Works for me.
Will this process work on my burgundy Loake Royals? I bought them two years ago, only worn them once! I bought the cedar shoe trees, they smell great. Thanks for the great vid. Cheers, Keith W
Congrats on the new shoes - Loake Royals will come up beautifully with this process and should look great. I'm sure they will serve you very well indeed.
Really great job
Thank you so much 😀
So in a few months, when you are ready to polish them again, do you need to do any stripping and what product do you start with?
Just polish over the top. It builds the patina.
Have you seen the John Lobb Rodney brogue?
Not yet.
@@TheChapsGuide I just saw them the other day in this video.
Touring One Of London's Oldest Clubs | Walking Tour With Simon Cundey. Simon Cudney is the lead tailor at Henry Poole & CO. Being American I have learned all of these things online, And I really appreciate your content, Being that I have British heritage and history estranges me from my native culture. One day I will visit London and make the rounds to Pool & CO, Lock Hatterist, And John Lobb. I have a pair of Cheany Oxfords right now that serve my purpose of formal dress, But as you illustrate, Properly done these items are a lifelong investment. Keep up the good work!
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Great video in caring for shoes. I have a question. I have a beautiful pair of Loake tan Chelsea boots but i have managed to scuff them around the heel area. Have you any suggestions on how i might be able to remove that? I have tried polishing them several times but no joy so far.
My best suggestion would be Saphir Renovating Cream, which can really help with bad scuffs and even serious gouges. This video by Kirby Allison is an excellent tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/E6bxuaDyr48/v-deo.html
Chaps, I can vouch for the Saphir Crème Rénovatrice. I filled a gouge that my son had inflicted on the toe cap of his Loake brogues.
Some careful "dibbing" with the tip of a scalpel blade (jeweller's eye glass required for me, I'm afraid) and then shave off the excess with that same blade once dry and hey presto!
Finish with a few coats of Saphir wax and mirror polish and you can barely see where the damage was and is still looking good some months later.
It's not cheap at around £10 for (I think) a 25ml tube, but it does a terrific job.
Thanks for the video!
I also brought a pair of Loake Royal Brogue in Burgundy under "Loake Shoemaker".
May I know your view that Is there any significant difference (maybe quality?) between the 1880 Legacy & Loake Shoemaker?
Also, after the first polish, how long will it be the best to apply the 2nd time?
Thanks!!!!
Shoemaker are the 2nd tier range from Loake (after the various 1880 ranges), but they are still good quality and well made for the very competitive price.
Apply polish when the shoe needs it, when the lustre (shine) becomes dull and requires a touch-up. Enjoy!!
Thanks for the video. I’ve recently discovered your channel and have been watching all your videos, as I’ve started my shoe journey. I’ve just purchased a pair of tan loake burfords and various Saphir products. Do you have a link or site where you purchase your cedar shoes trees from for £20? Look forward to seeing more content!
Amazon £19.99 Well worth the investment Seedler are a good set. Good luck
Congrats on the new purchase, cedar shoes trees will keep those shoes looking great. I usually buy trees from Amazon and limit myself to staying under £25 a pair. There are many, many option and all are essentially good. I would not recommend any specific pair, as I usually swap brands all the time and they all perform equally well.
Do the cedar shoes work for boots as well? I have a pair of loake bedales which I love and want to keep good. Really enjoyed video very informative 👍
Good afternoon Ash, I have recently purchased a pair of boots from Loake bros and was wondering if I should put wax on top of loakes cream polish or just use saphir renovateur and Loakes cream polish only? Kind regards
My recommendation.
Step 1. Conditioning cream (Renovateur)
Step 2. Cream Polish
Step 3. Wax polish
Step 4 (optional). Bring to mirror shine with Saphir Mirror Shine wax polish.
Thank you very much Ash for your kind response. I purchased my first pair of Loake on your recommendation and I am very pleased with my purchase. Thank you for your great recommendation. Keep up the great work and fantastic content on your channel it's superb. Many thanks again, kind regards.
When I was 16 or 17 I ruined my first two pairs completely new lacquer shoes, just putting a spray over them. A spray, promising a „long-standing shine“. Half an hour later after applying I saw the paint went stains, completely devastating the view of both previously beautiful pairs (one black and one rotten cherry) 😢
I looked at this brand and this very show this morning.
A little advice please. Could you wear this shoe with a pair of Levi's?
Even though it's a 'casual' shoe, would matching it with a pair of jeans be too much?
Cheers
This shoe is a little more casual than some other brogues, due to the derby-style lacing system and Dainite soles, so I would say a reserved yes - however, it would depend on the jeans that you intend to pair them with - if they are a relaxed fit and not too 'skinny' I would say these may pair very well, but if you are in the habit of wearing your jeans extremely close to the contours of the body (tight) - maybe these would look too formal. Hope that assists.
@@TheChapsGuidethanks for the reply, very helpful. My jeans are more of a relaxed fit, definitely not skinny lol
I'll go back with the jeans I intend to wear with them and hopefully can make a more I formed choice
They look like quality shoe trees Ash! Where did you get them?
I'm a big proponent of using shoe trees with all my 'good' shoes, I always buy a new pair with any new shoes I invest it - they stay together forever from that point on. I get mine from Amazon, nothing fancy, just good cedar - here are the ones I usually go for (very modestly priced) - www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01MRITT0F/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=B01MRITT0F&linkCode=as2&tag=ashjones36-21&linkId=a819acdd39aa0341fc9aa4dedb037312
@@TheChapsGuide Thanks I ordered two Ash!
Nice watch!
You made me check to see what I was wearing in the vid - its a DJ36 (116234) blue dial on jubilee. My first nice watch and one I still love to wear more than anything else. Thanks for noticing.
Just a quick question Ash. If I apply the Black mirror polish to my brown Loakes brogues as you have done, do I finish off with the brush to enhance the shine?
You could apply the brush if you are seeking to darken the overall look of the shoe, or just apply the polish to the areas you wish to provide with darker accents and brush off accordingly. Use the black sparingly and apply a little at a time until you achieve the desired effect. Remember, nothing you do can harm the original finish, so experiment a little and see what comes out. Good luck!
Can you leave a cedar shoe tree in a shoe for a year even if you don't wear the shoes regularly?
Yes. No issues at all
@@TheChapsGuide Awesome, thanks! I had a salesperson tell me to remove them after 3 weeks otherwise they will dry out the leather... which sounded ridiculous.
I have the tan loake brogues . I have a horse hair brush I use on darker polished shoes do I need a different brush for the lighter tan colour? Don't want that dark wax transfering? Is that an issue?
It is always advisable to have dark and light brushes to avoid transfer of polish. If at all possible.
I always pronounce "Renovateur" in the same way I pronounce "amateur". It just seems to make sense. I also don't pronounce "d'Or" like "Dior" - the apostrophe is telling me to skip a syllable and pronounce it like "door".
If a chap is confronted by a wine list which is all in French, these little rules could make all the difference. 🍷
e.g. "Coteaux d'Aix en Provence" - d'Aix is pronounced "daix" (= hillsides of Aix en Provence).
Nice work chap, didn't know Saphir did a black mirror gloss! 👏🏼
It is a superb product and works a treat
Mathew It's the tops when bulling. The shine is very deep You canto wrong and Ashes' tip works brilliantly
@@gordon7005 will have a look around. Nice easy way to burnish that's for sure. 👍🏼
Maybe to point out, if you go MTO / bespoke you don't need polish the shoes if straight from the factory / maker. I'd be careful with an early mirror shine as during break in, the wax can otherwise tear off some color. I think it's good like in your video that you didnt overdo it. Good video.
Beautiful 🤩🙏🏻
Thank you! Cheers!
Why don't you also condition the tongue. I always remove the laces they don't get stained BTW.
Super 👍
If you need burnished finish do it with the cream not the wax
But how to remove those mirror shine very hard wax?
Check out my shoe renovation video from last week. It explains all!
I read this as first Polish shoes 😅 👞 🇵🇱
Auto Glym the car care product people make a Vinyl and Rubber care product that's just the ticket for rubber soles, wipe it on, let dry, and brush to a lustre. Nearly as good as bulling the arch of leather soles :)
Wow - that is taking perfection to a whole new level. I like it!!
Bonjour,
C'est quoi la couleur concrètement de cette chaussures ? Merci
Size 8 it was probably in Mother care for 10 years it will need cleaning
very beautiful
Should have removed the laces to do a complete job of conditioning. A little thing, but a meaningful one.
Nice Date Just my friend... 😉
Very small feet.
Standard (normal) shoe size is 8 - 10 in UK. Perhaps you have big feet. My condolences, please don’t let it hold you back in life or make you feel subconscious
Too boring for words