I had a Spartan locker on my 4runner and it worked well. The clicking noise was there but I honestly liked it as it sounds like the clicking noise from a roller coaster
I have a spartan in the rear of my 2000 f-150. I have no problems daily driving it. Everyone always seems to think it makes driving in snow treacherous . To me it's just the opposite. It always acts completely predictable unlike a open differential. It makes it much more capable in the deep snow.
I put a lunchbox locker on a 90s dodge truck that had the vacuum disconnect on the front axle. In 2 Wheel Drive, the left and right axles are not connected to each other, so no click click on hard surfaces. In four-wheel-drive, I have a solid front axle when needed. Works great.
I put one in my 1 ton van. 2 wheel drive. Highway driving 90% of the time but in the winter it’s awesome for traction. I haven’t noticed a problem with tire wear. I like the fact both tires will have 100% traction no matter what speed or conditions you drive in…at least until the cam plates wear out. But 3 years and 35000 miles and still going strong.
@@ProjectVenturehonestly worth the investment! i fell in love with my 2016 jk when i had it but couldn’t afford payments so i got the 4.2 yj instead! love it more than the 2016 but gotta replace the timing chain/ sprockets so currently it doesn’t move 😂 the stock carter carb is kinda sucky but once i swap it to a motorcraft 2150 i know it’ll be the most reliable vehicle i’ve ever had. plus the cool factor of the square headlights holds a soft spot in my heart. can’t go wrong with a classic :) i call her the yeej
I run a Powertrax No-Slip with alloy shafts in the rear (D35) of my TJ (29” M/Ts) and it makes ZERO ratcheting noises when turning. I’m a very slow and easy going driver so it never locks unless I stomp on it through a turn *eRp, Erp, eRp*. I also have a manual transmission and one thing ‘is’ noticeable in automatic lockers, and that is the increase in driveline slack. All that said, when off road, the locker is COMPLETELY unnoticeable…aside from digging through and over almost anything in your way. Yes, I’d rather have a selectable locker, which I have had, and I’ve also owned a Detroit full carrier auto locker ($$), but it’s hard to beat these drop-ins for $300.
I run a aussie lunchbox in the front and rear on my YJ. I use it mostly off road and they work great. The rear ratchets all the time and is super noisy. To noisy for street
As long as you are in 2wd you won't even know its there, except for the small noise. If you get a full case locker it will make significantly less noise. My detroit is much quieter than my lock right.
Few people know but it depends how they are set/made/build!!!! The tension of the separator springs, the size and shape of the king-pin hole as well as the gap between the reacheds , play a role!!!!!!
How about when your driving in snow and on ice? I have a sparten locker in my 06 tj's dana 30 but haven't been able to experience it in the snow yet. All the so called local experts say I'm gonna hate it
I’ve driven in the snow a lot in my TJ with basically the same setup. I just take it easy and drive based on conditions the same as I would’ve without the locker and don’t have any issues. Where I do notice it though is if I’m turning sharp in a frozen parking lot but I’m going slow enough it’s not a real issue.
So you still get the effects of the locker while you’re in 2wd? I’m considering getting a lunchbox for my obs f150 front axle with manual hubs and the 4wd shifter on the floor. If I’m in rwd is the locker still engaged? I always thought that front pumpkin is doing nothing until you shift into 4wd. I’m no expert so excuse ignorance.
So the Jeep Cherokee does not come with switchable hubs so even when in 2wd the front axles are turning but just disconnected from the transfer case. In your case with the f150 and lockable hubs the only way things would be turning in the pumpkins is if you engage the front hubs, the transfer case, or both. So if you put a lunchbox locker in the front of your truck with manual hubs it will have no effect until you lock your hubs.
I'm curious what your thoughts on ox lockers are? I know they're expensive but without needing a compressor or anything, they'd still be cheaper than arb.
I personally don’t like the idea of a cable pull system. It has to be routed to somewhere in the cab that is easily accessible to the driver yet not easily bumped. Also you can’t really kink the cable around tight corners or have any tight bends in it. With an air line you can use 90° connectors and electric pretty much bends however you need. All that said I am a really big fan of being able to manually actuate something which is the best part of an ox locker.
@@ProjectVenture the manual engagement is the big thing for me. I've got a lunchbox rear and it's great, just thinking of some tight spaces it might make a difference but idk how much if any really.
I'm looking at an ox locker too for the rear... functions like a parking break in my head. pull the lever, it locks... less to break than an ARB with air lines... way cheaper than an Eaton e-locker. @emilyk1081 did you end up getting one?
I have a 1999 dodge ram 1500 4x4 I was thinking about putting one in the front Dana 44 low pinion I don't know if it would hold up to 35s 250hp and it weighs 7000 lb what do you think and a little sand and mud I don't do rock climbing and does the front drive shaft spin
It would seem in 2wd on a jeep tj it would not function cause axle is disengaged? Then when u engage 4wd transfer case would kick in the entire front axle oer the locker right??
The locker is always engaged. On a TJ the front axle is locked in all the time just disconnected from the transfer case while in 2wd. The locker should ratchet while turning and not effect driving. When in 4wd it should also ratchet while turning unless you are hard on the throttle and power is being applied to the wheels.
I had a Spartan locker on my 4runner and it worked well. The clicking noise was there but I honestly liked it as it sounds like the clicking noise from a roller coaster
Lol
I have a spartan in the rear of my 2000 f-150. I have no problems daily driving it. Everyone always seems to think it makes driving in snow treacherous . To me it's just the opposite. It always acts completely predictable unlike a open differential. It makes it much more capable in the deep snow.
2000 ft😮😮 How do you get that think through the drive thru? I honestly never know how to answer when someone asks me about handling in the snow.
@@ProjectVenture gotta love auto correct
Awesome! I have a 98....that's exactly what I was wondering.
I put a lunchbox locker on a 90s dodge truck that had the vacuum disconnect on the front axle. In 2 Wheel Drive, the left and right axles are not connected to each other, so no click click on hard surfaces. In four-wheel-drive, I have a solid front axle when needed. Works great.
I really appreciate the video. They have helped me decide on what lockers im going with.
I put one in my 1 ton van. 2 wheel drive. Highway driving 90% of the time but in the winter it’s awesome for traction. I haven’t noticed a problem with tire wear. I like the fact both tires will have 100% traction no matter what speed or conditions you drive in…at least until the cam plates wear out. But 3 years and 35000 miles and still going strong.
Coast through the corners is the key. If you apply power you force the diff pin between the halves of the locker and it will engage. Like your video.
Putting a spartan locker in the XJ today. Because of the lock-rite in the TJ, no hesitation!
great vid!! i plan on lunchboxing my 89 yj so this was a big help :)
Ooo I want a YJ so bad😂😂😂
@@ProjectVenturehonestly worth the investment! i fell in love with my 2016 jk when i had it but couldn’t afford payments so i got the 4.2 yj instead! love it more than the 2016 but gotta replace the timing chain/ sprockets so currently it doesn’t move 😂 the stock carter carb is kinda sucky but once i swap it to a motorcraft 2150 i know it’ll be the most reliable vehicle i’ve ever had. plus the cool factor of the square headlights holds a soft spot in my heart. can’t go wrong with a classic :) i call her the yeej
I run a Powertrax No-Slip with alloy shafts in the rear (D35) of my TJ (29” M/Ts) and it makes ZERO ratcheting noises when turning. I’m a very slow and easy going driver so it never locks unless I stomp on it through a turn *eRp, Erp, eRp*. I also have a manual transmission and one thing ‘is’ noticeable in automatic lockers, and that is the increase in driveline slack. All that said, when off road, the locker is COMPLETELY unnoticeable…aside from digging through and over almost anything in your way. Yes, I’d rather have a selectable locker, which I have had, and I’ve also owned a Detroit full carrier auto locker ($$), but it’s hard to beat these drop-ins for $300.
I run a aussie lunchbox in the front and rear on my YJ. I use it mostly off road and they work great. The rear ratchets all the time and is super noisy. To noisy for street
We’ll see how loud the spartan will be in the rear once I get it in.
Solid information.
As long as you are in 2wd you won't even know its there, except for the small noise. If you get a full case locker it will make significantly less noise. My detroit is much quieter than my lock right.
Few people know but it depends how they are set/made/build!!!! The tension of the separator springs, the size and shape of the king-pin hole as well as the gap between the reacheds , play a role!!!!!!
How about when your driving in snow and on ice? I have a sparten locker in my 06 tj's dana 30 but haven't been able to experience it in the snow yet. All the so called local experts say I'm gonna hate it
I’ve driven in the snow a lot in my TJ with basically the same setup. I just take it easy and drive based on conditions the same as I would’ve without the locker and don’t have any issues. Where I do notice it though is if I’m turning sharp in a frozen parking lot but I’m going slow enough it’s not a real issue.
Are they harder on tyres? I don’t think I’d want one in the front, I think the under steer in a wet road is dangerous.
So you still get the effects of the locker while you’re in 2wd? I’m considering getting a lunchbox for my obs f150 front axle with manual hubs and the 4wd shifter on the floor. If I’m in rwd is the locker still engaged? I always thought that front pumpkin is doing nothing until you shift into 4wd. I’m no expert so excuse ignorance.
So the Jeep Cherokee does not come with switchable hubs so even when in 2wd the front axles are turning but just disconnected from the transfer case. In your case with the f150 and lockable hubs the only way things would be turning in the pumpkins is if you engage the front hubs, the transfer case, or both. So if you put a lunchbox locker in the front of your truck with manual hubs it will have no effect until you lock your hubs.
Ha! Great explanation to a good question. 😊
If we put torq locker on both front and rear differential, would it be safe to drive on icy roads of Canada?
I'm curious what your thoughts on ox lockers are? I know they're expensive but without needing a compressor or anything, they'd still be cheaper than arb.
I personally don’t like the idea of a cable pull system. It has to be routed to somewhere in the cab that is easily accessible to the driver yet not easily bumped. Also you can’t really kink the cable around tight corners or have any tight bends in it. With an air line you can use 90° connectors and electric pretty much bends however you need. All that said I am a really big fan of being able to manually actuate something which is the best part of an ox locker.
@@ProjectVenture the manual engagement is the big thing for me. I've got a lunchbox rear and it's great, just thinking of some tight spaces it might make a difference but idk how much if any really.
I'm looking at an ox locker too for the rear... functions like a parking break in my head. pull the lever, it locks... less to break than an ARB with air lines... way cheaper than an Eaton e-locker. @emilyk1081 did you end up getting one?
I have a 1999 dodge ram 1500 4x4 I was thinking about putting one in the front Dana 44 low pinion I don't know if it would hold up to 35s 250hp and it weighs 7000 lb what do you think and a little sand and mud I don't do rock climbing and does the front drive shaft spin
It would seem in 2wd on a jeep tj it would not function cause axle is disengaged? Then when u engage 4wd transfer case would kick in the entire front axle oer the locker right??
The locker is always engaged. On a TJ the front axle is locked in all the time just disconnected from the transfer case while in 2wd. The locker should ratchet while turning and not effect driving. When in 4wd it should also ratchet while turning unless you are hard on the throttle and power is being applied to the wheels.
Can’t you just unlock your front hubs for street use?
Most jeeps don’t have lockable hubs so it’s locked all the time.
How does that thing not wear itself to death, I can't imagine the metal gears when it's clicking.
Honestly thats a good question, but I haven't seen one wear out yet.
@@ProjectVenture unbelievable design
How long will they last.
I don’t know anyone who has ever had to replace one due to wear.
Is that in 2wd?
Yes
What gear did you use?
Not sure what you are asking.
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