@ Mark Schultz Actually it’s your comment that’s rude, sarcastic, and mean. Obviously, Gene Clark did not achieve the fame and success of McGuinn, Hillman, or Crosby despite being the best songwriter of the bunch. “Underrated” may not be the most precise adjective to express one’s disappointment that Clark isn’t better known, but it’s certainly close enough and the feeling is perfectly understandable. If you only believe in praise why don’t you practice what you preach? What’s your problem, really?
Gene: It was a real thrill to meet him (in '85) after being such a huge fan of his for so many years and he didn't disappoint! He was friendly, gracious, appreciate and put on a simply wonderful performance. An immortal gone much too soon...
Gene passed in 1991, I believe. I can only imagine, had he lived, what might have happened between him and Jim(yes I will always call him Jim.) I grew up with The Byrds in the 1960's..Their music still influences me, to this day.
McGuinn took his real name back around 1990. That's where he got the title of his album, Back from Rio, from. It was a joke he used to crack when people asked him what happened to Jim.
Great venue. Miss it. Was supposed to see McGuinn, Clark and Hillman, but sadly Gene had departed. Great show and only 10 feet from McGuinn and his mapleglo Rick.
This was such a good show. I recorded it off an FM station in Chattanooga. The fidelity was darn good for a live performance. Roger and Gene sounded like they were getting along and their playing and singing were in fine form. Thank you for posting, my cassette was a bit worn before I could record CDs and dub it.
Great show one of many at the bottom line. Gene and roger harmonize like two angels. In this song. Great song and I greatly miss good old geno rest in peace gene You left us to soon ✌️
Between all fights for musical rights these two stood tall in there americana music.( let's do a gig in new york) Gene and Roger are among the best ever... listen to their version of "knocking on heaven's door"
I've heard about 6 different versions of this great song-all great-but this one, with Gene and Jim(I'll never call him roger-old school) is incredible.
Which line did Bernie write, Mitch? Perhaps it was a musical chord progression? Regardless, I believe Gene thought enough of someone who could contribute substantially enough to be awarded "Co-writer status.
It sounds like they're playing it this way: D-C-A-D (x2) Bm-E (x2) D-C-A-D Which seems like it might be a little different than some of the other versions out there. I like this one. Very nice, thanks for posting.
Been a fan since the early Sixties. Gene had SOUL! Saw them in London ROUNDHOUSE VENUE 1968. Support groups were Deviants and some new guys...Deep Purple? Lol
no matter if McGuinn sang with Hillman, Crosby, Clark or John York - beautiful harmonies. I think he needed the company of those heartfelt country and pop singers to really shine.
McGuinn was blessed to have superior vocalists around him, particularly Crosby's soaring harmonies and Gene with that rich, soulful voice. Roger did a lot of hokey Dylan type vocalizing that would have been intolerable,(and was, post Sweetheart of the Rodeo) as a solo vocalist.
He was certainly one of the finest, and one of my very favorites. His No Other album is on my top 10 list. And he is missed. I know it's a different genre, but have you heard Shawn Phillips? His Second Contribution album is as fine as anything I've ever heard. Make sure it's remastered
I have Shawns first 3 albulms on vinyl - he is great - saw him a few years ago - he almost died when his long hair got caught in a boat propeller - true story
Gene Clark should have been the creative focal point of the Byrds. If Gene had been more assertive... or Crosby and McGuinn more gracious (wherever the truth lies - its probably somewhere in the middle) and the Byrds would have focused their (considerable) collective talents on recording Gene's originals, everyone would have benefited.
Fine recording of these two heroes. I still prefer the version of this song with Gene Clark and Doug Dillard. But this version sounds really like a Byrds' song. McGuinn's Rickenbacker twinkles again. Roger sings lead and Gene has a killing harmony. Beautiful!!!
McGuinn and Clark make a great duet. But still so Gene is miles higher than McGuinn, or Hillman, or any other. I don't think his departure of The Byrds as a failure. In solo fashion or paired with Dillard he did his best, The Fantastic Expedition, White Light. True music just like Poco or Flying Burrito Brothers, by the way my favourites hehehe...
love this version, but I am definitely a bigger fan of dillard and clark's premiere version. I actually like the Eagles version far less. RIP Gene, and now Doug Dillard. McGuinn does harmonize with Gene beautifully on this.
This could have been a killer Byrds song... But then, McGuinn & Crosby always did everything they could to put Geno's songs off the Byrds records, and if Geno stayed with them we would never had Gene's first solo or Fantastic Expedition...
It's not exactly fair to call this a Bernie Leadon song, as his contribution was limited to a chord change. This song was almost entirely Gene Clark's.
I agree with you, but egos don't look for everyone's benefit. Even after Clark's departure, the outfit kept the dissintegration route, until an almost completely new group rose, with quieter spirits ( White, Parsons, Battin )
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I've listened 3 times straight, and bad as I hate to say it, McGuinn's harmony becomes increasingly annoying with each play. Even so, even he can't totally mess up this great song, done best by Dillard and Clark, IMO.
Love this....their voices together is so beautiful. Both massively talented.
Sad Gene Clark passed way too soon.
I adore this song....Gene Clark is criminally underrated.
I couldn't agree more!
Gene is so underrated. It makes me want to cry.
@ Mark Schultz
Actually it’s your comment that’s rude, sarcastic, and mean. Obviously, Gene Clark did not achieve the fame and success of McGuinn, Hillman, or Crosby despite being the best songwriter of the bunch. “Underrated” may not be the most precise adjective to express one’s disappointment that Clark isn’t better known, but it’s certainly close enough and the feeling is perfectly understandable. If you only believe in praise why don’t you practice what you preach? What’s your problem, really?
I saw the Byrds in about 1967. They were my first real rock concert. I was 15 or 16. I'll never forget it.
I saw them at Melody Fair, Niagara Falls, NY, '72 or '73.
Love this but it's hard to compare to the original! Great job dad!!!
You can say it loud. He never failed to deliver. Never.
The most emotional song of Gene and Roger. What a waste Gene has past away.I hope they play this song at my funeral.
Gene: It was a real thrill to meet him (in '85) after being such a huge fan of his for so many years and he didn't disappoint! He was friendly, gracious, appreciate and put on a simply wonderful performance. An immortal gone much too soon...
Gene passed in 1991, I believe. I can only imagine, had he lived, what might have happened between him and Jim(yes I will always call him Jim.)
I grew up with The Byrds in the 1960's..Their music still influences me, to this day.
McGuinn took his real name back around 1990. That's where he got the title of his album, Back from Rio, from. It was a joke he used to crack when people asked him what happened to Jim.
Gene Clark. What a voice. The Byrd has flown.
their voices sound so good together! just perfect for this song.
Rest in peace, Gene - a beautiful soul.
I've only ever heard the Clark/Dillard version so it was a thrill to discover this gem. Love the 12 string effects from McGuinn. RIP Geno
I was at this Bottom Line show, in fact I went to the early shows on both Friday and Saturday night. Wonderful to have this video on UA-cam.
Great venue. Miss it. Was supposed to see McGuinn, Clark and Hillman, but sadly Gene had departed.
Great show and only 10 feet from McGuinn and his mapleglo Rick.
Gene Clark appears to have been a real humble person.
Good version! Those were the days. Love this.
This was such a good show. I recorded it off an FM station in Chattanooga. The fidelity was darn good for a live performance. Roger and Gene sounded like they were getting along and their playing and singing were in fine form. Thank you for posting, my cassette was a bit worn before I could record CDs and dub it.
Thank you. So glad you were able to get the performance.
Great show one of many at the bottom line. Gene and roger harmonize like two angels. In this song. Great song and I greatly miss good old geno rest in peace gene You left us to soon ✌️
Set you free this time. Is amazing!
Fantastic live performance ...!
I love this. Much better for me to listen livd when my favs are really performing wd no studio magics..just natural
I love this. The harmonies for this era with these two were really good. "Crazy Ladies" is a great new song from this era too.
A tune covered by the Eagles but written by Gene Clark haunting and beautiful ....
This is great! Its a shame there isn't more. Thank you for posting.
Between all fights for musical rights these two stood tall in there americana music.( let's do a gig in new york)
Gene and Roger are among the best ever... listen to their version of "knocking on heaven's door"
Lucky enough to have caught them in Toronto on Gene's birthday. I night I will never forget.
TY townshend. Wonderfull performance. So good to see you generated so much vieuws..
I've heard about 6 different versions of this great song-all great-but this one, with Gene and Jim(I'll never call him roger-old school) is incredible.
One of his best and McGuinn's harmony does it justice. Not so sure about the way Gene declaims but a great post, anyway. TYVM.
Wow. Love this version 👌🏼
Thank you.
nice hear this ty for posting
Bernie wrote like one line, and Gene was classy enough to give him writing credits.
+Mitch Kenvin How on earth would you know that?
Richie Aronson"s book about Gene Clark. Bernie Leadon said it himself.
+Mitch Kenvin Well, there you go then
Which line did Bernie write, Mitch? Perhaps it was a musical chord progression? Regardless, I believe Gene thought enough of someone who could contribute substantially enough to be awarded "Co-writer status.
Any where you know of that this book is available Mitch? I looked on Amazon and Book Depository, no go.
Evergreen&everlasting
Thank you for posting.
It sounds like they're playing it this way:
D-C-A-D (x2) Bm-E (x2) D-C-A-D
Which seems like it might be a little different than some of the other versions out there. I like this one. Very nice, thanks for posting.
Instead of Bm-E (X2), I think it sounds like Bm-Em-Bm-E, unlike either Dillard & Clark or Eagles versions.
train leaving this morning , I feel I might be on .....too . very sad , lost my best friend , little Scutter
Gene and Roger had a good thing going here.
Lived in LA and it was wonderful to watch and listen to them play together back in the late 70's
Been a fan since the early Sixties. Gene had SOUL! Saw them in London ROUNDHOUSE VENUE 1968.
Support groups were Deviants and some new guys...Deep Purple? Lol
Geno! Never heard him get called that before...
Two of the Best of the Best.
Wonderful
me too, maybe not this song, although i love it.. but when I die, I NEED a gene clark song playing at my funeral. or else i won't be there.
saw gene in cardiff and swansea in wales in 1985 supporting lindisfarne.can you believe that.
no matter if McGuinn sang with Hillman, Crosby, Clark or John York - beautiful harmonies. I think he needed the company of those heartfelt country and pop singers to really shine.
McGuinn was blessed to have superior vocalists around him, particularly Crosby's soaring harmonies and Gene with that rich, soulful voice. Roger did a lot of hokey Dylan type vocalizing that would have been intolerable,(and was, post Sweetheart of the Rodeo) as a solo vocalist.
I like this song. Some things should stayed paired. McGuinn and Clark was one of them.
He was certainly one of the finest, and one of my very favorites. His No Other album is on my top 10 list. And he is missed. I know it's a different genre, but have you heard Shawn Phillips? His Second Contribution album is as fine as anything I've ever heard. Make sure it's remastered
I have Shawns first 3 albulms on vinyl - he is great - saw him a few years ago - he almost died when his long hair got caught in a boat propeller - true story
Love it
superbe !
Gene Clark should have been the creative focal point of the Byrds. If Gene had been more assertive... or Crosby and McGuinn more gracious (wherever the truth lies - its probably somewhere in the middle) and the Byrds would have focused their (considerable) collective talents on recording Gene's originals, everyone would have benefited.
Fine recording of these two heroes. I still prefer the version of this song with Gene Clark and Doug Dillard. But this version sounds really like a Byrds' song. McGuinn's Rickenbacker twinkles again. Roger sings lead and Gene has a killing harmony. Beautiful!!!
actually that's Gene on lead vox and roger backing
bellinghammond You're right.
The intonation is Gene's in the lead.
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Gene owns this Dillard and Clark original...
I don't agree. Gene Clark did a lot (A LOT) of great things solo.
McGuinn and Clark make a great duet. But still so Gene is miles higher than McGuinn, or Hillman, or any other. I don't think his departure of The Byrds as a failure. In solo fashion or paired with Dillard he did his best, The Fantastic Expedition, White Light. True music just like Poco or Flying Burrito Brothers, by the way my favourites hehehe...
love this version, but I am definitely a bigger fan of dillard and clark's premiere version. I actually like the Eagles version far less. RIP Gene, and now Doug Dillard. McGuinn does harmonize with Gene beautifully on this.
I think I was there?!?😇
GENE WROTE THAT SONG, LIKE MANY MORE HITS OF THE BYRDS...ROGER THOUGHT HE WAS THE FIRST BYRD...WRONG!!
The exact date of this one is march 1978, not 19-10-1977.
In late 1977 their concerts were acoustic (I own about a dozen of them).
had these two stayed a duo they probably stayed around together for decades. when dave crosby entered the scene the bad vibes began...
FYI, this is from March 1978.
What a beautiful song. I'm wondering this is my favorite Gene Clark song or is it Tried So Hard? It's a tie for me...
+Chip Lovitt Tried So Hard is certainly one of my favorites. But just to confuse you further, listen again to Changing Heart and Hear the Wind
+Robert S And then listen to "Here Without You."
+Chip Lovitt Polly :)
My fave is 'The World Turns All Around Her'.
Try Through the Morning, Through the Night
Are you sure this wasn't at NYU's Loeb student Cntr.??? I did some still photography at that show and that was either in '77 or '78.
This could have been a killer Byrds song... But then, McGuinn & Crosby always did everything they could to put Geno's songs off the Byrds records, and if Geno stayed with them we would never had Gene's first solo or Fantastic Expedition...
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It's not exactly fair to call this a Bernie Leadon song, as his contribution was limited to a chord change. This song was almost entirely Gene Clark's.
I love McGuinn, but I totally fell for the version with Dillard.
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No tellin' what he was on, of course.
I agree with you, but egos don't look for everyone's benefit. Even after Clark's departure, the outfit kept the dissintegration route, until an almost completely new group rose, with quieter spirits ( White, Parsons, Battin )
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It won't play for me. Just hangs
love anything with these two guys on it, but the eagles' version -- love 'em or hate 'em -- is better.
I've listened 3 times straight, and bad as I hate to say it, McGuinn's harmony becomes increasingly annoying with each play. Even so, even he can't totally mess up this great song, done best by Dillard and Clark, IMO.
not very good