This Stanford Professor Has The Absolute Worst Take On Depp v Heard - A Lawyer Explains
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It’s scary that an “educator” can be so profoundly ignorant.
The influence she will have over her students is disturbing.
Scary still that Stanford of all places tolerates this.
Welcome to California, the unicorn state. My daughter was indoctrinated at a CA university as well.
Just what I was thinking
That's why kids are not learning anything these professors Have too much air between their ears SAD!
She’s a law professor and claims she’s a feminist but calls female lawyers the absolute worst and not real lawyers? How does she treat her female students?
She's a walking oxymoron
I really want to know what is going on behind closed doors at Stanford university. Can you imagine being a female in her class for law students and finding your professor posted this?
@@IamKelt Her Twitter thread reads as the opposite of ”woke”: she is (conceptually) limiting women to specific, smaller roles and professions - based solely on their gender. She sounds like a throwback.
Right?! And with her reasoning - shouldn’t she treat Camille , a woman , with more respect?
@@IamKelt do what you’ve got to do to pass. Don’t let the professor be the reason why you don’t get your degree. You can challenge the ideas later when they aren’t the ticket to your future career.
This level of misogyny from another woman is heartbreaking but sadly not unheard of. I am shocked that it's coming from a lawyer and a law professor at that.
While her comment was clearly sexist against women, I don't think it's misogyny fuelling this, it's misandry. As a woman, you're meant to say 'fuck you' to all men and side with the woman, regardless of his innocence or her sin, because men are villains.
I can’t help but to wonder if the professor even realizes that every argument that she uses against female lawyers on why they shouldn’t be lawyers could actually be used against her with being a female professor…
she is probably envious, thats all there is to it i think. often is with throwing dirt at someone successful.
@@th3orist if she only attacked Camille Vasquez if would fully agree with you on that one hands down. But no,that is not what she does. She attack’s any good female attorney which leads me to believe that her way of thinking is that it’s okay for a female to teach about the law,but they should not participate in practicing law. A very archaic way of thinking. It shows that as smart as she is that she hasn’t opened her mind and way of thinking to this day of age and probably shouldn’t be teaching with such a closed mind in this day of age.
That "professor": "Women who throw other women under the bus are the worst!"
Also the "professor": continues to throw other women under the bus to forward her ideology
Yeah, I still hate hypocrysy.
Yeah, but what is a "woman"?
I didn't think my opinion of college professors could get any lower but this woman made it drop below even the lowest levels of disgust!
It is actually totally ridiculous and that statement alone which she made seems to lack all common sense and ability to see both sides 🙄
Seriously. It's a gaslight. I work in the music industry and am really sick of hearing my female colleagues known for sabotaging others constantly repeat "What ever happened to women supporting women??" whenever they get called out on their bs. I don't know, Karen, maybe you should give it a try for once in your life and see how it goes for you. smdh
Exactly!! Worst line of reasoning !!
This law professor has issues, I don’t know what her issues are, but as a lawyer myself, I find her to be an embarrassment to the legal profession. Has she ever represented a client or is her “expertise” limited to the classroom only. She knows damn well in this country EVERYONE is entitled to representation and lawyers are obligated to provide that representation “zealously”, anything less is a violation of the code of ethics. Shame on this professor, shame on her!
She's not the only one who has issues, baby. You don't even know her and you're ascribing issues to her?? She's was instrumental in getting "judge" Aaron Persky, who sentenced violent campus rapist, Brock Turner to only 6 months in prison, recalled. She's done more for victims of crime than you ever have (or will).
Ambusers are wild. That's all I can say.
I agree.. inappropriate
"I don't know what her issues are"
feminism.
The primary issue is that she is a feminist, and isolated in her ideological bubble. Feminists HATE women who do not support their biases, even more than they hate men in general. Lots of hate to go around.
She needs to be removed from her position as an educator anyone with a closed mind as no place in education of young women, her remarks proof her own position she's not a real professor because she's a women.
I sent an email to Stanford the other day with screenshots of the professors tweets and asked them the exact same thing regarding institutional policy that she surely must be going against. Didn't hear a word back nor did I expect too. This female is shameful and an embarrassment to not only herself but her employer.
Good, glad you did that!!!!
@@kimberley1449 thank you ❤️
More pple should do tht, this is dangerous
I believe that free speech has gone astray with this prof. What an embarrassment to Stanford. You were right to write to the university to express your views on this professor. I hope that students don’t sign up for her class.
I saw a tweet that claims she is on tenure which means she can do whatever the fuck she wants.
It's *WORSE* that she's a professor vs a practicing lawyer - she's directly influencing the next generation of lawyers with this insane, toxic AF mindset! 👀
A familiar saying is sometimes applicable for certain people-i.e.
"those who can't do, teach."
legends say she was teaching mr Binger in his lawschool days
Her post was so disgusting. Thank you for bringing attention to this.
For her to imply that CV should turn in her "woman card" for having the audacity to defend her male client, and not support a woman shearly based on gender is repugnant. Where there should be a moment to highlight the success of CV in this case, all we have is the quite slippery soap box of a professor that needs to turn in her "human card".
Stanford has gone DOWN hill…This professor is an ABSOLUTE disgrace.
I thought she was a troll account at first because I found it hard to believe a professional would put their job on the line like this. Imagine a student showing this to the people in charge of the university; she's a lawsuit waiting to happen with her blatant sexism of calling female lawyers "skirts." Even women can be sexist to other women. (Isn't that what she's accusing those lawyers of being? Ironic...)
Maybe she has tenure, that could be a reason why she is isn’t worried about jeopardizing her career
Right?! I reported her it’s crap 💩 and it could be my college kiddo taught by her.
@@RinaATZ1024 she does have tenor and even won an award for best professor etc at Stanford. Don’t quote me but k think 2006ish
@@RinaATZ1024 I feel bad for those students who can't drop her class. She's probably teaching a course that is required for credit too. 😔
Just keep reporting her offensive and sexist tweets. She’s a disgrace!
I hope this woman is getting some major push back. Maybe she's just looking for her 15 minutes of fame.
it's a sad sad state of affairs when a literal sexist is a Stanford law professor. American education is a farce.
I was literally thinking that 😂
Exactly !!🌠
Definitely not 15 mins fame. A lot more than that if that’s the goal. I got lost in her sea of crappy tweets that went further back than even this case. It’s sickening
Someone posted an article with a photo of her and AH. AH wrote about her once. She is trying to do a positive spin for the perjury queen.
I'm not even mad. I am disturbed. How can someone teach Law to both WOMEN and MEN and degrade women pursing law at the same time? She has to face some sort of repercussion. Goddamn Stanford is even playing blind and deaf to everything she says.
How does she treat her female students? Terrifying and truly heinous.
What on earth?? “Skirts”?? That is so offensive. I hope Stanford sees her posts. SHE needs to be held accountable. Can you imagine being a female law student with her as a professor??
I am more concerned about the amount of vitriol, hatred and bais she has against her male students.
I think this woman shouldn’t be teaching anything, anywhere. She sounds psychotic all the way around. It amazes me how many people who are rooted in academia can be so incredibly ignorant, narrow minded and foolhardy. I hope there are consequences for her ignorant post.
"I hope Stanford sees her posts."
Do you really think Stanford would do anything to her?
@@revilo178 who knows? It’s a touchy world, especially when it comes to social issues. Her comments certainly don’t make Stanford look very good.
@@marchuta326 Good point! Many people get fired for posts on the internet back to the days of MySpace! It’s a platform and if you are using the universities reputation and name trying to legitimize your personal opinion as a professional one, they should take disciplinary action. Unless she’s doing some grand planned social experiment to prove everyone has a right to their opinion previously approved by the law school, however bias it sounds. I don’t think it’s on their radar. All male law students at Stanford, avoid her at all costs!
THANK YOU IAN. I was so upset by Michele Dauber's tweets. To think she's a professor at Stanford who has influence over students and goes on to make these harmful, very sexist comments is unbelievable and truly disappointing.
Same...I feel personally violated by her tweets. She’s continually accusing people being racist whilst whitesplaining too
It’s actually much scarier to me that this woman doesn’t practice and teaches others who WILL practice to think like her instead.
so damaging to women ! how dare she say this , any young women wanting to go to this university/ college, whatever subjects you want to study should go somewhere else where this discriminatory is NOT ALLOWED
Not to mention, one of the ‘skirts’ she mentions is Roberta Kaplan…who REPRESENTED AMBER HEARD. The only reason she backed out is when the trial was stationed in Virginia instead of LA. So what exactly is this ‘professor’ trying to say? She’s calling out Camille for backing Jd, then Roberta for defending Kuomo, but not mentioning that Roberta represented Amber? It’s so hypocritical, which is not a surprise at this point. The only misogyny going on here is this terrible woman’s outdated and baseless opinions.
She probably is ignorant of this
also like, horrible for representing a bad man? even the worst and most obvious criminal deserves a fair trial and has a right to defense, otherwise it's not just.
Great 👍 excellent Point!!!!
Wow great spotting
I’m learning just as much from the comments as the content !
Great intelligent audience
This can all be explained very easily; she is a bigot.
As a 40 year member of the bar, and an associate teacher at the U of A Law school, and a woman, my view is that she was beyond ridiculous and a shame. Those of us who graduated in the '70s have done well. We were the leading edge in smashing the glass ceiling. It took its toll.
Which U of A?
jojoQ, I was thinking similar of other professions and careers. Whether lawyer, truck driver, or locomotive driver. Women have had to work harder than men to gain an equal opportunity & now it's women attacking women for doing their job correctly. Instead of fine tuning opportunities its like they have forgotten the main objective & instead gone on a hate males & hate females that do a good job without complaining. I am not highly educated so hope you understand.
@@iriswaterford8881 It does not take a highly educated person to see and understand a snake in the grass. Each of us has that capacity.
I was lucky to be so educated--lots of weiners and beans...LOL. I have done a lot of pro bono work for those less fortunate and I am proud of that. They survived what could have been a disaster.
Women do have compassion and will make it work for others, no matter their sex, age or race.
I am appalled at women who attack women for their success because they are a credit to humanity, not just women.
@@a.person3986 University of Alberta
Thank you jojoQ and all women who fought the fight to achieve equality/women's rights. I remember my mother could not have her own bank account. Dad could raid it. Crazy times before, many have no idea
Toxic is the right way to describe her ignorance. Smacks of provocation, envy and disrespect .
It's scary these "educated" law professors work in academia and work in the justice system too. No wonder the justice system is so corrupted.
Nobody is as sexist as a woman who finds another woman she doesn't like.
Why are some women so hell bent on dragging down other women? 🤔
Said this a number of times, now. A person's credentials from an institution are not a reflection of their merit, but that person's performance reflects the respective institution's merit.
How true! It’s disgusting the way she is going on. The most despicable vile person
A stanford law professor?!?! What on earth. Will Stanford do anything about this? Seems like she shouldnt be teaching new law minds this stuff. Cheers Runkle!
Yes why does she dislike female attorneys so much. Bc of "male power"? That doesn't even make sense! Let women practice law too if they'd like. They're not female lawyers, they're lawyers.
Does she only teach men? But aren't they the bad male power? Does she only teach women? But aren't they just skirts cowtowing to male power? Who can she teach? No one? Good!
You need to be more specific. Simply suggesting that Stanford should do something about this may give them the impression that they can get away with giving her a promotion! Sadly, many in academia, especially the administrators, subscribe to this type of rubbish.
My first inclination was that Dr. Dauber should be removed from her position at Stanford. The terrible irony is she appears to have done so much to further the rights of sexual abuse victims on her campus. Has she not seen the trial? Or has she lost her mind? She needs to go back home and do her homework. Then apologize to Camille and the Depp team, as Jane Campion apologized to the Williams sisters.
She has tenure in all likelihood. In other words a bully pulpit
Well i did see a photo of her with amber heard. Red carpet like, for some sort of event. So she has met heard. Probably because heard is an aclu ambassador? That’s my speculation
@@Shadowplay4Cats Wow, I found it
Glamour Women Of The Year 2016 - Backstage
LOS ANGELES, CA - NOVEMBER 14: (L-R) Actors Gabourey Sidibe and Freida Pinto, honoree Michele Dauber and actors Amber Heard and Lena Dunham attend Glamour Women Of The Year 2016 at NeueHouse Hollywood on November 14, 2016 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Frazer Harrison/Getty Images for Glamour)
A skirt? Is she absolutely kidding. The sad thing is we women (no matter how kick arse we are) feel like "how could we have been less of ...." Whatever stupid comment made.
So some of these incredible women you mention, will have middle of the night "how could I be less of a "skirt""? What a nuts arse thing to say and it's not always easy to brush off.
Thanks so much xxxx you did a great job in : Virginia also 😇😇😇😇
@@markwest1963 she could still get fired.
Typical proof of "Those who can't do it, teach it."
Thank you for this. No lawyer should be judged on their gender, only on their expertise and success.
No one can hide the fact that AH's condescending arrogance, deception and contempt was so transparent. I can't believe they put her on the stand twice. Ben, Camille and their team rocked it.
I was also shocked that they placed her on the stand a second time. HUGE mistake as she was already unlikeable enough the first time.
In Amber Heard's mind she probably thought the more she talks the more innocent and believable she looks to everyone.
Amber isn't that smart. It was easy to see what she is.
I think this was planned by team JD - that's why they put Johnny on the stand for a second time; they knew she could not resist and HAD to give it another go; just like she always had to have the last word when they were arguing.
They didn't put her on the stand. She put herself on the stand,against her lawyers council.
I am a born female. I am a childhood and young adult Survivor. I very rarely get angry right now I am boiling mad how dare she. People who have not watched that trial with common sense need to keep the f_ _king mouth shut. When are people going to stand up for the little boys and the grown men who are being abused by evil women.
As a female law student, I can’t imagine having a professor like that. Her comments are so gross and are representative of hard battles women have already caught and won in the professional world.
My cousin graduated from Stanford and he was a rocket scientist. He passed away 37 years ago. This is embarrassing for Stanford. 🤦🏼♀
This Michele person sounds jealous of Camille. It’s scary to think what she’s teaching future lawyers. How hard is it to be a woman in her class? I thought people went into law to practice law. Client gender shouldn’t matter I’d think. I loved your coverage of Johnny’s trial. You always try to be totally fair and I appreciate that. Thank you for sharing this with us Ian. Rant away.
Or she has a crush on her and this is her way of refuting her truth 🤷🏽♀️
She need help
Basically. Camille is very threatening to Dauber. She’s younger, prettier, Latina, and doesn’t have a fancy law school background and yet she is succeeding lmao. Dauber is that kind of woman and specifically white elitist feminist that fears losing their authority to another woman who they’d consider beneath them.
Oh she’s beyond a doubt jealous of Camille! It’s blatantly obvious 😂
An intelligent, YOUNG, (and I hate to even bring this up as it has nothing to do with Camille’s abilities, but) BEAUTIFUL woman in her own profession… the envy seethes through the page. Imagine living your entire life being teased, bullied, ignored by whatever sex you’re attracted to because of your face… and then Camille takes center stage. Of course she’s jealous.
I’m not trying to be cruel here, I’m just trying to understand her psychological makeup and what her possible motivation is to post something that misogynistic. She’s got a bad case of internalized misogyny.
Only take clients who are innocent and agree with your politics, religion, views, etc....
As a law professor she should be aware of the fact that the 6th amendment not only guarantees criminal defendants the right to an attorney, but the right to "adequate representation."
She is, and like certain others in academia wholeheartedly believe that fair trials are an impediment to justice when it comes to prosecuting men for crimes against woman.
One of the hardest lessons in my life was that someone at the pinnacle of their academic career, a rector of a large grammar school, had no grasp of logic and little integrity. I had presented a well-reasoned opinion (quietly) which escaped him completely. Maybe I had been naive back then. In my adult life, I am almost constantly having to challenge those who are paid to know better. Academic letters, degrees, supposed intelligence, position held etc are no guarantee against stupidity.
Wow, Runkle. Wow. I have seen so many bad takes on the Depp v. Heard situation that I was skeptical that you had found "the worst", but you have, indeed, found the worst one so far. She legit said "How dare she be good at her job, be ambitious, and take on high profile clients that I disagree with? Taking on high profile clients I disagree with is anti-woman!"
This woman deserves to be fired. She's tarnishing the name of Stanford. I'm sure the institution is getting some well-deserved pushback
We learned from the trial that their are people who are considered “experts” and they are absolutely not and we also learned the same thing when the trial was over and the media “experts” opened their mouths…a bunch of toxic humans are in positions they don’t deserve and they cause great harm to actual victims. I’m completely shocked by how much our country has gone downhill. We could be so much better as a nation if not for these absolutely disgusting beings. Standard allowing this is just proof of horrible things have gotten…they’ve been a high class name for so long and this just takes that all away…it’s sad.
As a university professor myself, all I can say is this person does not represent me or any real educators. She is completely unprofessional. My institution would never condone this.
One of my favorite parts of the description of Camille Vasquez throughout this trial is that she was never referred to as a female attorney. She was said to be an excellent example to any attorney that wants to specialize in this field. This is a big deal. She is an attorney. This woman that made this remark is the only person I have heard call Camille a “female” attorney. That is very sexist.
This individual has GOT to have tenure cause why else would this lunatic remain on staff?
Her Twitter feed is truly mind boggling 😳
She does.
There has got to be a limit to what tenure protects. She has a right to say and think however but most places have policy's against sexist speech especially if connected to a well known university
Gaslighting because "her" lawyer did such a miserable job representing her reprehensible client!
This professor should get fired from Stanford
The attacks on camille have been so disgusting and often sexist. If I was a female lawyer, I would write stanford about michelle’s sexist take. Imagine a man making this statement from michelle. Gross.
The lawyer for gomeshi was also amazing, it was hurtful to see her attacked for gender. She did her job and did it well. Doesnt matter what you think of gomeshi.
apparently she's tenured, I don't know enough that but I'm curious about whether or not that shields her from consequences regarding these tweets.
I also may have gone through the replies on that tweet and liked all the ones that tagged Stanford asking if they're ok with this behavior :)..
Well, as a man, I would tell this Professor " more kitchen, less bitchen" just to see her head spin like Linda Blair😂
@@ApoIIo95 she is using stuff like that on her twitter to point out the misogyny against her, much stronger to call her a misogynist
@@ApoIIo95 love it lol....havent heard that one before....
Jealousy!
Thank you for being a fair and a decent human. As a women is just disgraceful to see an attack to a lawyer, who is a women for doing her job. This doesn’t happen to a man, and it shouldn’t happen to anyone. Who is the MISOGYNISTIC in this discussion…pathetic!
Well said. Unfortunately women still have an uphill battle at times. And how hypocritical of her!
@@DanielleNicoleMakeup yes so true! This woman seems to have a deeply entrenched gender bias with zero insight. Such a horrible shame that she has the ability to influence young men & woman in her job.
Let’s hope she loses her job over being so blatantly disrespectful.
Shameful & classless
She needs to be fired! Nobody needs this person teaching them anything!
She personifies true misogynism. She is tragic! Stanford should call her out if they value the good name of their institution and the cause of equality and dignity for all.
Runkle - Thank you for speaking on this. It is so disgusting.
Thank you, Runkle, for pointing out the inherent irony of this "professor's" post, as I point out the irony of her use of quotation marks.
She's also teaching this to hundreds and hundreds of students as well. It's disgusting!
It’s mind boggling that a law professor at such a well regarded university has such a stupid, sexist take. Internalized misogyny, perhaps? Make it make sense.
It's been this way a long time.
@@cadena141 Seriously, every like on the original comment is proof that people are idiots and will never wake up. What reality are people living in that this is a new thing that boggles the mind and not just standard practice at this point?
Don't forget misandry.
This is not and has not been a well regarded University to many of us for years.
I think you gave it some sense
I watched the trial from beginning to end. Camille was brilliant! -- And thanks, Runkle, for sleeping on the concrete. Your reporting and commentary on the Depp Trial was amazing, complete with all your first-person nuances.
Christ. This “professor” should be held accountable for her idiocy.
Universities are just going down in quality. This hack being a professor in one of the prestigious university is insane!!!
I am thrilled you are exposing her.
Her many Twitter posts are 😳
How can someone tag themselves as a feminist and be so bloody sexist?! 🤬
her posts are literally nauseating. this entitled, academia elitist aims for her "gotcha" moment with every engagement and when she doesn't get it she reverts to name-calling like an elementary school child. she also doxxed someone's phone number and knew that some in her following called but still left it up!! how is she not suspended?! thank you for addressing this topic!
Thank you for saying this Runkle. What a disappointment seeing another woman degrade woman lawyers. I am embarrassed that Sanford would allow her to use her platform to say something so sexist. It's truly disgusting.
If it had been a male law professor posting that kind of message the pitchforks would be coming out along with the vats of tar and feathers and he could kiss his career goodbye. Sadly I doubt this lady will suffer much consequence.
She is jealous AF.
Stanford will cover for this professor. Shameful.
She should not be a professor because she is not a “real lawyer”.
AGREE. This lady’s tweet was the first tweet I actually responded to, I couldn’t NOT. Her tweet about the stenographer omg. She’s vile.
Professional jealousy of women is real. That was a valuable presentation.
Jealousy. Simple as that.
WHY ON EARTH can a female lawyer not represent male clients? Good or bad. That’s absurd.
Camille Vasquez s an impressive lawyer. She deserves every accolade she gets. I have never seen a lawyer slam dunk so many times in one trial. Stanford seems to have lowered the bar on professor attorneys. One should be judged on their merits not their equipment in their pants.
Dauber has very little actual trial experience, she's theoretical. Most of her sway comes form sitting on a ton of boards, the kind of boards who like to send dogpiles after people they don't like.
She doesn't have a law degree, she is a sociology professor at Stanford and only has a PdD in Sociology. So her opinion isn't even from a legal background.
She doesn't attack Camille for being a woman or on her skills but on the fact she defends a man. The issue here is her hatred of men that spill on women siding with men
@@marchuta326 Well, as Runkle states, it's not exclusive to men as she was also referring to Ghislaine Maxwell's legal team. The problem is more to do with the assumption that guilty parties seemingly shouldn't have people offering them legal representation which is counterintuitive to the whole concept of our criminal justice system, or that she is saying that female lawyers shouldn't be attorneys for said guilty party, which is just as legally perverse but also inherently sexist towards women. I do agree that because her biases are clearly based around her personal specialty which relates to sexual violence and this is clearly a gendered bias in the assumption that JD is the guilty party despite the evidence and decision by the jury. So I guess really she is technically sexist against both men and women in different ways?
A teacher should hold themselves to a higher standard. It is ok to have biases but to let that effect the syllabus is wrong. It is like, I'm an atheist but I did not let that sway my children's choice to learn about their grandparents religion. I guess mine is more personal. I just feel a teacher has a duty to be as unbiased in public and in the classroom as possible.
I am a female criminal defense and family attorney that routinely takes on cases with opposing parties that have mental disorders that have caused some problems in their lives. Not all people with BPD are the same, and I am only speaking to possibilities that sometimes exist where there are disorders involved. Defense counsel’s role is a critical one because some people with certain disorders, can have traits that take advantage of, and exploit the “believe all” mindset. The “believe all” mindset does not always take into account the possibility of false (created) evidence, and/or false allegations. Thus, there is the potential to undermine the whole system of justice in this country. I’m am so glad that the Depp case brought to the surface the victims that deal with false allegations who stand to lose everything because no one will touch their case. This person’s comments are unfortunate, and more damaging to actual victims and their cause.
Yeah, I used to work for criminal defense attorneys, and we had some pretty disordered clients at times. But, everyone is entitled to representation in court, even the unpleasant ones. Just because an attorney is representing someone doesn't mean they're complicit in, or condone what the person did. There were a lot of "come to Jesus" talks in the office with clients about facing the reality of their sentences, and a lot of face palming when their even more malignantly disordered mothers would try to manipulate the judge, making everything worse. The black-and-white thinking in BPD is called "splitting," and it seems like our culture as a whole has a bad case of it lately. I haven't appreciated the forced teaming Heard's PR team is trying to do with the "setback to women as a whole" mantra. This was only a setback for Amber. Full stop. What I loved about this case was that it shed light on just how many shades of gray life really has. Victims don't have to be perfect. There is no single 'face' of DV. It can happen to anyone in any relationship. I'm grateful justice was served.
I was further educated by your and @m0L3ify explanations. Thank you.
@@m0L3ify Yes, exactly about the rigors of representation. Many people don’t understand that at all. Everyone is entitled to representation, it is required by the Constitution and if we don’t do our very best to defend every right that they are afforded, a very dangerous person could be let out on appeal. It is absolutely essential that we do our jobs to the very best of our ability in every instance, no matter who the client is. In this case, I am very happy justice was served, and a light was shed on the role mental disorders can play, and the potential for trouble and destruction of a life if the allegations are not thoroughly investigated.
I would be careful of generalising disorders.
@@lisahale2026 I think these lawyers have a good understanding of them since it's their specialty, it seems
I hope all the parents who are spending a fortune for their child to go to this private school hear about this.
anyone that had her as a professor needs a refund
"This is not just some idiot in Twitter"
The fact that she is tenured does not preclude her from being an idiot. In fact, in my experience, it raises the odds.
I agree. She's exposing herself out there and this is just the start. I am pretty sure once she goes on and opens her mouth, social media is going to attack her. And Stanford? I expected better. What a shame they are letting this happen. There is no way they have no idea that their own professor is doing this. Someone could have alerted them one way or the other.
Those that can, do; those that can't, teach.
@@Daisyboobs Really? I get your point but please make your thinking in a better way than devaluing teachers.
@@christinesmith7838 If you've not heard that phrase, perhaps you've heard the phrase "Uncultured Swine?"
"...Those who can't, teach" is an old English phrase, it wasn't something Ajay just came up with. If this is the first you're hearing it then you need to reevaluate the value of your teachers (specifically your English teachers): it's from George Bernard Shaw's 1905 stage play Man and Superman. Since then, it's evolved to the modern version "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach; those who can't teach, teach gym". This was the version I first heard from my middle school gym teacher and Run team coach, some 30 years ago. It's often said about music teachers as well since if they were great musicians they'd be playing with a philharmonic or a famous rock band... but they're not! This does not in any way devalue them as teachers because no student will ever start their studies with the likes of Beethoven, Jimmy Hendrix, or Nikki Sixx: we all started with a local piano teacher; even my college music professor only conducted with the Vancouver symphony once in his career. The fact that he's not top of his field doesn't mean he can't teach.
Same in sports: your coach isn't usually going to be an Olympic gold medalist (we are lucky in Southern Alberta to have Olympian Larry Lemieux as a coach but even he never won a single medal besides the Pierre de Coubertin Medal for Sportsmanship.
It's not an insult to speak the truth of a situation.
@A_peary_legal You are talking about a previous generation, and you're very correct. Unfortunately things have changed and bureaucrats have taken over universities so that the professors first serve their agenda. There are good professors, but they are fewer and fewer: the research scientists I personally know and respect work for hospitals, work for corporations, work anywhere BUT universities. And this is doubly so in the state of California: universities in California are garbage.
I am sorry to say this, but a lot of decorated professionals hide high functioning skellys in closets. Why the hell would an accomplished educator say these vile things about a fellow accomplished professional who was doing her job (and did so exceptionally)??
I mentioned this in a comment thread elsewhere: some people see themselves in Heard. And they can't possibly be wrong, therefore Heard isn't wrong.
Big swaths of society are sick, and many of them are in influential positions.
Because she feels very threatened by Camille and what she represents. And because she has never practiced law and she failed her own daughter who unalived herself. If she can tear down a threat to her authority and make herself morally superior she’s hoping people won’t notice all her fatal character and professional flaws.
I think you are REALLY ONTO SOMETHING HERE @runninginsept this had that wonderful ring of truth. Love it.
@@PeepersT I had no idea about her daughter, and am saddened by it. I hope people like her get the help they require
@@xino_z Thank you. When the evidence fails to convince a person, one can probably surmise that they're clinging on to other things (that are not facts).
I believe you’re correct. The psychopaths, narcissists, and pathological liars see themselves in the liar, Ms. Turd.
But the fact that this woman is a law professor and so much of the law is based on logic, is just mind-boggling, since her opinion is so logically flawed that it is completely self-defeating. She is being terribly misogynistic. It’s strange that in 2022, women can’t just represent a male client and have it be just about the work. This case had nothing to do with man vs. woman. It had to do with truth vs. lies. This so-called professor is projecting an awful lot of toxic thinking and sadly, probably confusing her student.
She should be focused on the law and the facts. Here is Camille Vasquez, a young and hard-working lawyer who is part of what seems to be a really decent law firm where they behave like professionals, and she just made partner. Instead of cheering her on, you’re discrediting her completely because you’re siding with a lying psychopath who got caught in a dozen or more lies in court? What a strange time we live in where so many mentally ill people hold positions of influence.
Totally creepy. Amber defecated in a bed. She’s an utter lowlife.
A creep who bragged about DONATING money to charity, pretending to be above it all, while never actually doing it. She defines the term loser. She deserves so much worse than she got. She deserves to he held accountable and should have to pay every bit of taxpayer dollars that went to pay for all the staff during that trial. She should have to pay Johnny’s legal fees. And she should NEVER be able to post on social media about real
Victims. She played with that term to garner sympathy and be viewed as courageous while living a lavish lifestyle with no consequences for her misdeeds.
She’s beyond disgusting.
Real women, real people, real victims,
don’t need her as a spokesperson. Anyone defending her can’t actually do so using facts.
They can only use attacks. This law “professor,” is undermining women. Camille and any woman can do whatever they want. Stop hating her for winning.
You rock Runkle and as a professor at Stanford she is in a position of mentoring and teaching new lawyers this is really concerning. 😢
I replied to her tweet
She should be embarrassed for demeaning women who have done well for themselves.
Runkle Rants!!!
She should be held to a higher standard of what she says because shes a PROFESSOR! She teaches the next generation of of law practitioners. Ots my opinion that she needs to fired.
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This rant of yours, as you called it, has left me feeling completely satisfied.
She's literally a crazy person.
Stanford needs to fire her.
A professor who lacks moral ethics. Oh cmon Stanford..😵
I'm struggling to find the right words for what I'm thinking, but the fact that you refer to Camille Vasquez as a role model for lawyers - with no gender affiliation, just... people who want to be good lawyers - and this sexist law professor reduces her to a literal article of clothing speaks volumes.
She is an example of people that talk the talk but do not walk the walk. Easier said than done.
She was probably high when she wrote that because it’s absolutely ridiculous for a professor! 🤬
Unfortunately, the most sexist people are sometimes the most outspoken about others being sexist... It's shameful to have people like that around, posing as an activist of sorts while all they want is others to conform to their ideals.
As I taught my kids, the people most responsible for something are easy to find. They're ususally the ones who throw accusations at everyone but theirselves.
GASLIGHT on legs
Like AH was an activists and the face of DV for aclu?
Well said, Deborah. I agree.
Thanks for discussing this Ian. I'm a college professor and I find that women have so many obstacles to dodge just to work in professional fields and then are often criticized just because we're female. You are right for so many reasons. My daughter is a lawyer and I'm horrified that she would be treated in such a disrespectful way just because she's female. Frankly, It's disturbing how many other women are gender traitors to their own kind. I find men are more supportive of female professionals in many cases than other women.
What I find kind of ironic is the only time I ever hear anyone talk about a woman shouldn't be doing that job! The one saying it nine times out of 10 is a fellow woman. Like am I the only one that finds it strange that women are more sexist to other women than they allegedly ultra sexist men are? I'm 32 years old and the only times in my life that I have actually seen sexism almost every single time it was a woman the denigrating a man, a woman denigrating another woman, or it was a really old guy using sexist terms of endearment towards younger women. But literally anytime I have heard a woman shouldn't be doing that job it's come out of a woman's mouth not a man's mouth.
Most criticism of women comes from other women.
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As a graduate in the field of Mechanical Engineering in the 80's, I can say I was seldom questioned by men why I chose a career dominated by men. I was CONSTANTLY told by WOMEN that I should be a nurse, or teacher, etc... Taking the less followed path of any sort is not easy, it has it's challenges, but sometimes that what people want from life...the challenge. Do I think I was sucking up to male power? Hell no! I wanted to be involved in cutting edge design and technology and Engineering seemed the way to forward for me (I really wanted to be an astronaut but my health even back then wasn't up to the gold standard). So I say this woman needs to get her head out of the 50's and put that mind to better tasks.
@@silversong4VR okay but do you not realize that in that last sentence you basically did the exact same thing to other women that they did to you just the opposite direction?
She's completely unprofessional and Stanford should think twice about having someone so biased on their staff.
How embarrassing for Stanford
I would imagine the enrollment fee for Standford Law degree is expensive. Students should second guess enrolling with this lady as the professor. Very sad and disgraceful.
Being a Law Professor at Stanford must be a cushy job if you can spend most of your time on twitter arguing with people
How is this woman a professor? Shocking
What a disappointment to herself, her students, her peers and staff and all People from all genders! Shameful is an understatement.
AH needs to accept that women didn’t vote her into the “women’s rep” role she claims, and in fact we don’t want her, actively reject her and don’t need her to advance *any* cause.
She does know better. She understands the attacks and weaponized them against another woman. Talk about gender traitors.
This woman needs to get disbarred. She is definitely digging her own grave on this one.
This law professor is a disgrace to her profession..
The interesting thing that’s been happening over the last few years, is SO many narcissists are coming out of the woodwork.