6 types of vibrato and how to do them | Team Recorder

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  • @norwaysofen
    @norwaysofen 7 місяців тому +22

    Vibrato is interesting. I hear A LOT of recorderplayers using their throat to "make" vibrato. I believe because there is a lack of diaphragma control. Love your openness: there is no right or wrong. But people need to learn from those who knows more. LIke you. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

    • @SanDra-zr9he
      @SanDra-zr9he 7 місяців тому +2

      I was told it is a tension problem, and it often produces a parallel hum rather than an actual vibrato. I have a lot of problems with my neck (turning causes pain, lots of creaking), and I have this undesirable "accompaniment" sneak in. As soon as I become aware of it (hear it), I can correct it.

  • @austinhackney3906
    @austinhackney3906 7 місяців тому +10

    I love it how Sarah always acknowledges that not everyone's aiming for performance--that if you play for pleasure at home alone, don't worry about "historicity" or "authenticity", just make a good sound you're happy with and enjoy it! I did play in public once, last summer, as part of a community theatre thing in my village. It was great and I loved it, but it wasn't a concert and I just love taking a piece of music, reading it, trying it out, practising and memorising it, and then finding how to express it i(interpret it) in a way that seems right to me. I so adore Sarah for her profound understanding of the fundamental reason why we have music, whether it's Mozart or the guy next door plonking away happily on his slightly out of tune piano while the family join in for a sing-song. 💖🏳‍⚧⚧

  • @Nachtuil36
    @Nachtuil36 2 місяці тому +2

    Wow, lots I never knew. Up till now I believed early music also barock were supposed to be played without any vibrato. And then... how could we ever be sure of such ? Interesting. Playing the Irish D flute, I was so surprised, Nial Keegan advised me in slow airs not to use finger vibrato, but rather gutheral style, something that I thought to be a lack of technique. Never too old to learn ...

  • @cathy7382
    @cathy7382 5 місяців тому +1

    It never ceases to amaze me how one
    can do different ornaments that even
    though I'm no means a beginner Sarah
    has opened my understanding of what
    the recorder is capable of Thank you so
    much for your teaching

  • @christophertsiliacos8958
    @christophertsiliacos8958 3 місяці тому

    I love using vibrato - especially when I play my diatonic harmonicas with feeling, phrasing, note-bending and lots and lots of vibrato. 😊🎶

  • @michaelsproule2508
    @michaelsproule2508 7 місяців тому +6

    I love your exploration of your vocal vibrato! Beautiful! Singers usually keep diaphragmatic pressure even and produce vibrato in the larynx, although sometimes pressure fluctuation creeps in.
    Love your curly hair, btw!

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  7 місяців тому +3

      That’s so useful about the singing vibrato, thank you!

  • @ElephantBill
    @ElephantBill 4 місяці тому +1

    Other kinds of vibrato are possible, amongst them:
    (1) Phase shift. This is known as the Doppler Effect. The so-called “Leslie” of a Hammond organ (much-loved by Blues musicians) creates a phase shift in the sound by means of a rotating drum speaker system. The result is a vibrato on each side of the note, rising in pitch as the speaker travels towards the listener, and dropping in pitch as it travels away from the listener. Note that the effect is not the result of an actual change in the frequency of the source. It is simply the case that each consecutive disturbance has a longer or shorter distance to travel before reaching the listener and thus occurs more or less frequently for that observer. On a non-amplified recorder such phase shifts could only be achieved by gross movement of the player and their instrument with respect to the audience, perhaps by seating the player on a swing or roundabout.
    (2) Timbral vibrato might be offered by the manipulation of tonal colour possible with innovative instruments such as Michael Barker’s “MIDIfied recorder”, Cesar Villavicencio’s “Bird Cage”, Philippe Bolton’s electro-acoustic recorder, or Mollenhauer’s "Elody" recorder.
    See "Tremolo and Vibrato" at recorderhomepage.net/technique/tremolo-and-vibrato/

  • @dannyfossez
    @dannyfossez 29 днів тому

    Thank you very much. I am a beginner. This gives me more understanding of the possibilities of ornamentation.

  • @YenZenBamboo
    @YenZenBamboo 7 місяців тому +4

    Hey Hey. Love the new hairstyle it really looks nice 🙂

  • @everestvirtue309
    @everestvirtue309 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for all your magnificent presentations
    We all benefit
    Take care

  • @carudatta
    @carudatta 7 місяців тому +1

    So you had me practising vibrato for over half an hour yesterday evening, and reading Quantz' adagio chapter afterwards. I guess that's my kind of social life 😅

  • @JoshSaysStuff
    @JoshSaysStuff 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you, Sarah. I just watched a super creepy video essay and this is the perfect antidote. Please, tell me about using vibrato on the recorder!

  • @ilveroleolix
    @ilveroleolix 7 місяців тому

    One can always tell how much passion and effort you put into your videos... and this one is absolutely interesting! Great job as always!!! 😊

  • @reeser8
    @reeser8 7 місяців тому +1

    I have heard the tongue vibrato as being done by moving the back of the tongue, not flapping the front of the tongue. Walter Van Hauwe's Modern Recorder Player describes it as the same tongue movement as when saying Yo Yo Yo.

  • @angelicamartacahyaningtyas9083
    @angelicamartacahyaningtyas9083 7 місяців тому +3

    May I add one? If we sing a note that is not exactly in tune with the recorder, both sounds will create interference. In the worst case it will sound like a rapid bubbly tone. But if we can keep tuning discrepancy minimal, it sounds like vibrato or tremolo.

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  7 місяців тому +2

      Ooh I love this, interference vibrato

  • @Zavendea
    @Zavendea 7 місяців тому +2

    Slight correction about the Marais, from a gamba player: Although I’m sure some flattement markings are just for learning materials, Marais is just extremely specific with his markings, in all of his works! Even the extremely difficult ones. Those various vertical & horizontal squiggles, “e” meaning enflé, the comma, and more (plus signs, mordents, etc) are what Marais used; their meanings weren’t assigned by the editor :)

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  7 місяців тому +2

      Ah, I didn’t explain myself properly! I meant the editor of this edition gave instructions for how to interpret the written ornaments on a *wind* instrument- the first as finger vibrato, the second as breath vibrato etc. As on a gamba they would be different, and to come close to the effect. Thank you for commenting though, I love these discussions! ❤️

    • @Zavendea
      @Zavendea 7 місяців тому

      @@Team_Recorder I see, thank you!

  • @TheMtnmamma
    @TheMtnmamma 7 місяців тому +1

    Your videos are always so interesting and informative. Thank you.

  • @lakon2514
    @lakon2514 7 місяців тому

    I like the way you talk and explain.🎉🎉❤
    Because speaking like this takes practice.😊

  • @piratse
    @piratse 7 місяців тому

    Thank you! I love your introduction to various types of vibratos. As someone who loves flutes/recorder and experimenting with this magnificent instrument, I love to learn something new from masters :-) P.S. I love your level of positivity! :D

  • @marklammas2465
    @marklammas2465 7 місяців тому

    Very useful video. Makes you think about expression. My Basque txistu is a type of tabor pipe. Yes; there's a hole on the bottom, but it's not a recorder. There are only three holes, and the "bell" hole, which can be covered partially to obtain a fully chromatic scale. It is, however, an overtone flute; you blow overtones to create your scale in whichever key. This makes diaphragm vibrato, which I like on txistus, very risky; if you push too hard, your note may easily break into the next highest region, potentially ruining your performance. Not surprisingly, therefore, flattement is the most popular form of vibrato amongst txistularis. There are only three holes to choose from. The limitation is addressed by flattementing the bell hole where appropriate. I have seen labium vibrato and manipulation used by expert Basque players. Most appropriate for a one-handed instrument, though the other hand usually plays a drum. I haven't tried labium vibrato myself. Here goes, I guess!

  • @ld654321
    @ld654321 7 місяців тому

    great demonstration of the various sounds, thank you for making this.

  • @TuduoRaphael-gm6jv
    @TuduoRaphael-gm6jv 5 місяців тому

    Have been following your videos since COVID-19...all cool

  • @ElsweyrDiego
    @ElsweyrDiego 7 місяців тому +1

    the tongue vibrato can be slow too, producing a vibrato similar to the diaphragma vibrato!

  • @michaelgee9268
    @michaelgee9268 7 місяців тому

    Thank you. This has been a very useful lesson.

  • @PletonTibere
    @PletonTibere 6 місяців тому

    Bonjour , madame Sarah, comme je suis votre fan depuis environ 2 ans, et vous êtes une professeur exceptionnelle pour une explication claire et riche d'information, voulez vous activez le mode transcription, je doit interpréter en français, parce-que mon anglais et faible, et merci 🙏

  • @lakon2514
    @lakon2514 7 місяців тому

    From Indonesian always watch your update video. But not all video. ❤❤❤

  • @roseparsnips3494
    @roseparsnips3494 7 місяців тому

    I've seen a kaval player use the shake vibrato too - it seems like he uses it on notes where a flattement-style vibrato isn't possible, like Hotteterre suggests for the recorder, though potentially also to blend with other instruments? So yeah, probably one of those cross-cultural folk/early music techniques that's been around since forever.
    It's interesting you talk about how fuzzy the line is between vibrato and tremolo. Maybe at a certain point it's more useful to think of them in terms of their musical effect, rather than the more 'clinical' definitions.

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  7 місяців тому

      I love your last point- absolutely!

  • @williamjames9515
    @williamjames9515 7 місяців тому

    I know I shouldn't say, but love the hair! Video interesting as always

  • @goback3spaces
    @goback3spaces 7 місяців тому

    Hey, Sarah! At 11:43, that sounded like the opening to Glenn Miller's "In The Mood." Tell me I'm right!

  • @lordwilksy
    @lordwilksy 6 місяців тому

    Love the videos
    Q: what notes would you be limited to playing when doing the labium technique on a tenor instrument?

  • @andrewcordle2424
    @andrewcordle2424 7 місяців тому +2

    When in doubt leave it out‼️
    🤔😆

  • @giawelch1181
    @giawelch1181 7 місяців тому +5

    Glottal stopping. I think that's the vocal term you're looking for when using your throat. When I'm explaining it to little kids I ask them to imagine an old lady in a church choir with a wide, machine gun vibrato. Inevitably, to imitate one, they will go to their throat and move their hand on it.

  • @ganjaklaus80
    @ganjaklaus80 7 місяців тому

    hello sahra, can you make a video about 3 hole pipes and tabor? found some vid´s, but they were not really....i don´t know...informative and/or professional. 🙃

  • @Chris_the_Muso
    @Chris_the_Muso 7 місяців тому +1

    Interesting. Years ago (like 36 years ago) in recorder class our music teacher was a flute player. He told us that tremolo was done with the throat. Not the throat tremolo you demonstrated, but a rhythmic variation in the volume of the throat and soft pallet at the back of the mouth. The sound is very similar, almost identical to the diaphragm tremolo. It does NOT stress the vocal chords or epiglottis.
    I find this kind of throat tremolo easier than diaphragm tremolo, but the diaphragm tremolo has more feeling as long as I am (indeed) feeling the music.
    Have you heard of this technique, or am I something of a freak?

    • @allanjmcpherson
      @allanjmcpherson 7 місяців тому

      Not at all! Research has shown quite conclusively that the so-called diaphragm vibrato is actually produced by the vocal folds.

    • @kenzieprice6745
      @kenzieprice6745 7 місяців тому

      ​@allanjmcpherson Could you share where I can learn more about that? Thanks!

    • @allanjmcpherson
      @allanjmcpherson 7 місяців тому

      @@kenzieprice6745 unfortunately I don't recall where I read this, and everything I've been able to find on the topic is behind paywalls.

    • @kenzieprice6745
      @kenzieprice6745 7 місяців тому

      @allanjmcpherson It's okay. It just kind of resonates with me as it always seemed the diaphragm isn't actually fast enough by itself to oscillate for the vibrato people claim coming solely from the diaphragm and that more elsewhere in the body is working together in tandem. I always gave it up to the possibility I'm just not there yet though 🙂. I'll look around for the topic.

  • @peiootano9972
    @peiootano9972 7 місяців тому

    Me gustó mucho el video: práctico y didáctico. Pero sobre todo sencillo. 👏👏👏
    ¡Y NO ENTIENDO EL INGLES!. (Una pena que no haya traductor simultáneo al español). Pero es tan visual el video, que lo llego a entender lo básico.
    Y gracias también a todos los comentarios: esos sí que se traducen 😉

  • @brittawaddell6045
    @brittawaddell6045 7 місяців тому

    I am playing Persian music imitating the Santour. Lots of tremolo is used normally. What wld be the best technique to get an authentic sound on the recorder?

  • @areyouastarseedtommy2toes192
    @areyouastarseedtommy2toes192 5 місяців тому

    Enjoy your videos and my say you are truly adorable and quite an artisan at that

  • @goonyougoodthing
    @goonyougoodthing 7 місяців тому

    Can you make a composers guide for writing for the recorder? Are these styles of vibrato notated differently ?

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  7 місяців тому +2

      ua-cam.com/video/2sarXSCDDlg/v-deo.htmlsi=jthc9A6AMPFZ1WcW Here you go!

    • @goonyougoodthing
      @goonyougoodthing 7 місяців тому

      @@Team_Recorder thanks so much

  • @rakninja
    @rakninja 7 місяців тому +1

    oh, one of the few things that could delay recorder practice, a new sarah jeffery video.

  • @春上村樹-q5h
    @春上村樹-q5h 7 місяців тому

    The poster of recorder name in different languages catches my eyes ! You know how to read them all? :D :D

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  7 місяців тому

      Ooh, you can get it in my webshop here 😎 team-recorder.myshopify.com/products/poster

  • @Removahid
    @Removahid 11 днів тому

    👍🏻👌🏻❤️❤️💫

  • @oxoelfoxo
    @oxoelfoxo 7 місяців тому

    nerdy indeed!

  • @mr_moss205
    @mr_moss205 7 місяців тому

    On a different subject, How's the Team Recorder Orchestra coming along?

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  7 місяців тому +1

      Slowly but surely, this amount of editing is a fun learning curve 😄

  • @marcelw.5898
    @marcelw.5898 7 місяців тому

    Sarah, i have a question: do you also sing or is the recorder your preferred voice?

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  7 місяців тому

      I sing too but I’m not trained as a singer, just as a recorder player!

    • @marcelw.5898
      @marcelw.5898 7 місяців тому

      @@Team_Recorder of course! I think more people should trust in her/his inner voice an sing. alone and with other. Music connects and breaks the walls in our hearts 💕
      When I play on sessions with other people it fills me with joy and I love it.

    • @aleksandrazona416
      @aleksandrazona416 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Team_Recorder you sing well!

  • @TJtheBee
    @TJtheBee 7 місяців тому

    But wait! What happens when you use multiple vibratos at once??? Like diaphragm, tongue, and finger?

  • @ggauche3465
    @ggauche3465 7 місяців тому

    flutter tonguing? Pretty common for flute players.

  • @-Anth
    @-Anth 7 місяців тому

    🤗🤗

  • @CheukTheGreatestOfEverything
    @CheukTheGreatestOfEverything 7 місяців тому

    I feel like I only use breath vibrago, nothing else

  • @Oaktreealley
    @Oaktreealley 7 місяців тому

    so on a modern flute in order to approximate a baroque flattemens you could just shake the flute? Ah!

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  7 місяців тому

      For the lowest note at least 😄

  • @olialto7
    @olialto7 6 місяців тому +1

    Dear Sarah, an (famous?) example of using 'throat vibrato' in singing: ua-cam.com/video/nLLxlSwBQcE/v-deo.html

  • @sudogiri
    @sudogiri 7 місяців тому

    Early!

  • @AMPProf
    @AMPProf 7 місяців тому

    So wigglyWoo a woo a woo mmm ok

  • @EJej-z5g
    @EJej-z5g 7 місяців тому

    You've earned my like for playing the Titanic theme.
    There's one more type of vibrato - knee vibrato. Very dangerous, do not recommend.

  • @robertcornelius3514
    @robertcornelius3514 7 місяців тому

    You are becoming more beautiful with each passing video.

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  7 місяців тому +2

      the incessant passage of time 💖

  • @gkitson5323
    @gkitson5323 7 місяців тому

    shake the recorder? I'm more likely to just knock my front teeth out!

  • @francoisvillon1300
    @francoisvillon1300 7 місяців тому

    Baboon on a clavicord?