Liang sounds like the original Silicon Valley innovators. They were more interested in the innovation, changing the world more so than the money. The interviewer asks some great questions. Fantastic interview. I look forward to hearing more from this man and the new innovation engine from China. This new energy will invigorate the entire world.
Happy Birthday Richard! Your channel always provides very profound analyses! I am surprised only 2% of your audience is 18-24. Proud to be one of those viewers! I am going to Tsinghua this september for a PhD in computer science and aim to do research in foundational AI models. Many startups are coming out of Tsinghua and make original innovations in AI architecture. It is a very exciting time!
wow! this is a fascinating interview. I so loved the virtue that he expressed, around being more focused on innovation than quick money, as well as 'stay in business but don''t overcharge the customers'. thank you so much Richard, from one of your older subscribers 😅
Wow wow. Great work Richard. Thanks for bringing out the mind of Deep seek founder. I am happy that he advocates repewtedly for own path and not being a follower.
Happy Birthday to you, Rich! Your mature followers speak to the maturity of your presentation and content material! Much luck and continued success to you! 生日快乐！🎉
Seriously, I am amazed by the difference between listening to him being interviewed when compared to what, say, Sam Altman says in such cases. It's like watching Trump being interviewed versus BIden. Superb.
Thank you Richard. I have watched a few youtube video's on this deepseek and it is interesting how different channels see this innovation. They range from attempts to discredit the builders to software developers with silicon valley contacts who while impressed are also of the view that China cannot outpace USA in this field. There were those that saw this in terms of military application and those that saw it as a tool to research science and markets. What was apparent in this interview was a humble guy with a great respect for humanity as a whole, without fear, who seeks deeper understandings. In the end, China will either develop the hardware to carry forward the project, or it will fall behind; hopefully the application for war does not produce more weapons, since there are already to many of these. Of course commercial application is the main purpose here in the west, but as he rightly points out, there are other motivations that many of us have that are more important. Great interview
I'm in my 70s, so yes... older Thank you for your efforts in making this discussion in English, which many of us in the West learned before taking on Mandarin.
It is truly commendable that China is nurturing such exceptional talent, and I am confident that many more individuals like him will emerge across the nation in the years to come. Deepseek represents just the beginning of this promising trend. It is crucial for the government to actively recognize and support these innovators, ensuring they remain in China by offering competitive compensation, fostering an environment where their skills and contributions can thrive.
Chinese national and corporate leaders are all from science and engineering backgrounds. American national and corporate leaders are all from finance and MBA backgrounds.
Incredible! I love hearing the actual words of the young Chinese company that astounded the world with its innovation. I feel the accomplishment should warm everyone's heart to think generously and act and think with bravery and innovate. The world needs many many such thinkers and doers!!! Thanks for a wonderful original channel Richard and Happy Birthday!
Right now i represent the whole global south i want to Thank China for this gift now we can develope our own ai bussiness ,services,companies,security etc etc etc if we can give you the science nobel price ,but we know is bought up by the west ,, for us you are the real science nobel price winner i watched a short bio video about this amazing guy ,,he s extremely gifted in mathematics ,a super genius individual,,, he created an AI for the trade prediction in china with a 94 % plus rate no wonder ,,china is so advanced,,,
Thanks Richard. Fantastic! Hope that innovations of young Chinese generation will continue to contribute to success of humanity and build up an ecosystem for innovation to thrive further in China.
Extremely interested interview, thanks 👍 This guy is not only smart but concerned about the future of technology in his country 👌👌 I'm quite sure that more and more Chinese will have his mentality and patriotism, just a question of dynamic!
*From Harvard Business Review* : Long considered a global copycat, China is now home to many of the *_fastest start-ups to reach a $1 billion_* valuation globally. Whatever has propelled Chinese companies to the top, the metrics we use to evaluate innovation have missed it.
Thank you for presenting different perspective in every topic....Like Yanis of the Diem25..... I truly enjoy listening to both of you. The rest of the channels are all cut and paste
Its amazing to me how there is a perception China et al does not innovate. If you look at the published research CS professors in top universities in the US and all over the world, you will see up to half to be Chinese. Even in Engineering at a top world-class tech university, a third of my professors were Chinese and the top texts authored by Chinese, Indian, Russian mostly. Russians being leaders in fluid mechanics and the like.
This is a weird prejudice, maybe racist. innovation comes from the pursuit of profit,western companies used to lead the world, so innovation mainly came from Western companies, but Chinese companies have caught up.
@@songcui4562 For most of written history, China had been the global top economy eclipsing the Indian, Roman, Persion economies in their primes so its not unusual that the Chinese return to that level again.
I love the question about how do you convince talent to come to DeepSeek. I would bet that people are finding them right now and can't beat them off with a stick. lol
Here my take as an entrepreneur, from my personal experience in business & it's development. Passion drive the entrepreneur, usually the success & wealth generation come after the passion in achieving an innovation or a gap that an entrepreneur spotted. The profits come after. That has been the motivation of the most successful enterprise of the world, example, Apple, HP, Amazon, Ali Baba, Huawei, IKEA & many others...If you study such entreprise they all started off small.
So it is not about lithium or about other raw materials, it is the attitude towards society and the orientation of a society that counts most. Spiritual work, dedication, deeper thinking and the courage that comes from deeper understanding and real contribution will soon be the main path, instead of capturing a market thanks to some temporary advantage, more or less honest. The chinese grade school system is the best and by far, according to the international PISA criterion. The CEO wants the Chinese to try for more innovation and more recognition of the innovators. The West talks about the lack of money for this or the other. Accountants and lawyers vs engineers and scientists. In the West the lawyer side wins.
Wow this Deepseek CEO has a good vision on how the AI industry should proceed and he is positioning his company and vision as the catalyst for the next great leap forward for AI. As I understand current AI is more about pattern learning and manipulation rather than really true AI understanding and reasoning like us humans with our brains. Well one factor which I am not sure how it can be implemented is morals, and determination of order, chaos and shades of grey rather than black or white.... Anyway mundance and repetitive tasks can be easily be converted into AI bots and tools even Judges too can be converted to AI bots which than makes it almost impartial in its judgement if AI truly is able to have true intelligence, but than it comes to the point of evolution of ideas, changing of perspective i.e. there was a time where everyone on Earth thought the world was flat till Galileo proved it wrong! So the limitation of AI is than our understanding of the phyics, chemistry, i.e the sciences and our understanding of the world and our place in it but than who truly has the authority on such matters.... the world today and the public discourse alone has shown how little we really understand the world we live in when even the President of the most power nation on Earth thinks global warming is a haox!
@@ysw8291 Actually its because the CUDA of the graphic card can handle multiple calculations which helps with AI computations work. That engine is why graphics card can handle vast amounts of pixel data and refresh it in milisecs that is what u see on screen its just a slow-mo of a flipcard that u flip and u see the animations graphics work the same way but at millisecs speed so u see it animate in realtime and your eyes fool u to think its animations.
Public understanding and attitudes toward science in the USA are very poor. Some of it has to do with religion, some of it with mediocre science education. China seems like they can avoid this failure by stressing the benefits of scientific education. In the USA, the physicists and climatologists do excellent research -- but much of it is rejected by politicians and certain corporations such as oil and coal companies.
Just fyi, this interview isn't from Jan this year, but July of last year, and was in written not audio form. Richard probably saw some recent text-to-speech version of it.
Happy birthday Richard.. Good to see that Chinese isn't content with being a followers anymore.. hmmmm.. I like to see more of Chinese innovative solutions to free us from oligarchs oligopoly.. hmmmm.. affordability means easier living and therefore making our socialism_communism economic system great again 👍.
Interesting interview and a bit narrow-minded and insulting to other Chinese scientists, researchers and innovators for him to claim China didn't contribute. In the AI field alone, China has roughly 50% of the AI experts in the world, according to MIT.
Where I think Deepseek is a true game changer, is that now can other bigger corporation and even small companies use AI with having their own unconnected servers in their own data centers... Imagine health care, this data is super sensitive and and would be illegal to send the US for probably any country. Suddenly there are so many new apps that could work to stuff we never imagined AI could do because it was to expensive (in terms of data power) I do not think this will lead to less power used in the long run as AI will be essential tool in any sector being efficient... But this is ironically a massive win for democracy made by China.
Do you have any evidence? If not, don't make such nonsense! He didn't even register Deepseek in the United States. His company invests in China, not in US stocks.
It remains to be seen whether any leading country will allow their companies to keep Open Sourcing their most advanced models. Alltruism only goes so far.
I don't think China and innovations and being followers is as bad as he makes out. A lot has changed over the past 10 years. Before, China was just at any different stage of development and there's the language barrier too. The language barrier works both ways too, things in the West are conducted predominately in English, things in Chinese are obviously going to be missed by the West. Many Chinese companies are innovating these days, take the EV market as a prime example.
Fantastic-thankyou. I am an overseas 3rd Generation Chinese. Am so proud of my heritage
Same here. Am 3rd Generation Chinese, residing in Malaysia. Grateful for Chinese DNA.❤🎉
懂汉语吗。若否，别称己华裔套近乎，不算，文化割裂早非同类。
一般来说，只有保留中国文化传统、具有中华文化内核的人，才算得上广义上的中国人（比如马来西亚华人）
@@簡聞 有必要吗？
Come back home and contribute the US hates and is ungrateful of what chines have contributed
Rare talent and rare human being and proundly Chinese.
Proudly
Rare and talented CEO indeed, A very fine, honest and ethical man. Bravo China! ❤
I am from Trinidad and Tobago. Thank you for this insightful video. We ell done China.
Amazing translation and craft, in making this interview available in English. Smart and humble guy!
Full transcript is available on The China Academy website titled: Interview with Deepseek Founder: We’re Done Following. It’s Time to Lead
Amen. 👍
Liang sounds like the original Silicon Valley innovators. They were more interested in the innovation, changing the world more so than the money. The interviewer asks some great questions. Fantastic interview. I look forward to hearing more from this man and the new innovation engine from China. This new energy will invigorate the entire world.
Yes, Liang is a great example of a true innovator.
Admirable CEO, forward thinking and succinct!
My healthy respectto Mr Liang. He is a pioneer and viosnary and he has made history.
GREAT INTERVIEW . very revealing. love from INDIA
Happy Birthday Richard! Your channel always provides very profound analyses! I am surprised only 2% of your audience is 18-24. Proud to be one of those viewers! I am going to Tsinghua this september for a PhD in computer science and aim to do research in foundational AI models. Many startups are coming out of Tsinghua and make original innovations in AI architecture. It is a very exciting time!
congratz. hope you have a good time there.
All the best to you brother. Keep the flag flying high👍
哇! 栋梁加油！
Thank you ! Thank you ! Thank you ! Thank you for the translation.
*This is a watershed moment for China and the young Chinese. Bravo !*
wow! this is a fascinating interview. I so loved the virtue that he expressed, around being more focused on innovation than quick money, as well as 'stay in business but don''t overcharge the customers'. thank you so much Richard, from one of your older subscribers 😅
Wow wow. Great work Richard. Thanks for bringing out the mind of Deep seek founder. I am happy that he advocates repewtedly for own path and not being a follower.
Impressive thoughts from the DS founder but you have done great work here by sharing his thoughts with a greater audience.
❤ CONGRATULATIONS ❤❤❤❤❤❤ DEEPSEEK ❤
Happy Birthday to you, Rich! Your mature followers speak to the maturity of your presentation and content material! Much luck and continued success to you! 生日快乐！🎉
Thanks, my followers have helped shape the channel and the content. I'm not sure how else I'd learn to best present these topics.
This is truly priceless! (no pun intended :-) Many thanks.
Seriously, I am amazed by the difference between listening to him being interviewed when compared to what, say, Sam Altman says in such cases. It's like watching Trump being interviewed versus BIden. Superb.
Thank you Richard. I have watched a few youtube video's on this deepseek and it is interesting how different channels see this innovation. They range from attempts to discredit the builders to software developers with silicon valley contacts who while impressed are also of the view that China cannot outpace USA in this field. There were those that saw this in terms of military application and those that saw it as a tool to research science and markets.
What was apparent in this interview was a humble guy with a great respect for humanity as a whole, without fear, who seeks deeper understandings. In the end, China will either develop the hardware to carry forward the project, or it will fall behind; hopefully the application for war does not produce more weapons, since there are already to many of these. Of course commercial application is the main purpose here in the west, but as he rightly points out, there are other motivations that many of us have that are more important.
Great interview
wow, a great thinker.
Thank you for translating this. Much appreciation.
I'm in my 70s, so yes... older
Thank you for your efforts in making this discussion in English, which many of us in the West learned before taking on Mandarin.
i forgot about you, YT didn't show you on main page for a while, glad i've seen this one, tx!
Have been looking for the translation, thanks Richard!
Happy birthday Richard🎉
The ideas/goals that he is trying to achieve is the reason why im learning Chinese
We really appreciate you, Richard!❤🎉😅😊
It is truly commendable that China is nurturing such exceptional talent, and I am confident that many more individuals like him will emerge across the nation in the years to come. Deepseek represents just the beginning of this promising trend. It is crucial for the government to actively recognize and support these innovators, ensuring they remain in China by offering competitive compensation, fostering an environment where their skills and contributions can thrive.
Chinese national and corporate leaders are all from science and engineering backgrounds. American national and corporate leaders are all from finance and MBA backgrounds.
Many US politicians had law degrees. They start out as lawyers.
@_Wai_Wai_ agree. Still not engineers and don't understand how science and technology works.
Shengri kuaile, Richard! Much success to you!
Incredible! I love hearing the actual words of the young Chinese company that astounded the world with its innovation. I feel the accomplishment should warm everyone's heart to think generously and act and think with bravery and innovate. The world needs many many such thinkers and doers!!! Thanks for a wonderful original channel Richard and Happy Birthday!
Right now i represent the whole global south i want to Thank China for this gift now we can develope our own ai bussiness ,services,companies,security etc etc etc
if we can give you the science nobel price ,but we know is bought up by the west ,, for us you are the real science nobel price winner
i watched a short bio video about this amazing guy ,,he s extremely gifted in mathematics ,a super genius individual,,, he created an AI for the trade prediction in china with a 94 % plus rate no wonder ,,china is so advanced,,,
I support Innovation of a superior cost-effective platform. I trust open source over proprietary.
I think the market will agree with me.
Thanks Richard. Fantastic! Hope that innovations of young Chinese generation will continue to contribute to success of humanity and build up an ecosystem for innovation to thrive further in China.
Thank you for producing this content. I really enjoy learning from your prespective.
Excellent translation and interpreting. Happy birthday to you.
Extremely interested interview, thanks 👍 This guy is not only smart but concerned about the future of technology in his country 👌👌 I'm quite sure that more and more Chinese will have his mentality and patriotism, just a question of dynamic!
Happy Birthday Richard. 🤸🏽♂️ Best wishes. 🖖🏼🥂
Thank you for the translation. Quite interesting.
Happy birthday. And wish you prosperity.
Thanks for doing this I like to get as close as possible to the original
Well - belated happy birfday Richard - you baby you! I'm always happy when a new episode appears thank you - much appreciated
amazing 🤩 thank you so much for this translation
Very Talent CEO! Best wishes to DeekSeek!
Happy Birthday! 🎂
thanks Richard. Very intetesting.
super, thank you again for this interesting content
Happy Birthday Richard 🎉❤
A blessed and Happy Birthday to you William
The last point did hit the nail on the head.
really interesting, brilliant answers.
*From Harvard Business Review* :
Long considered a global copycat, China is now home to many of the *_fastest start-ups to reach a $1 billion_* valuation globally. Whatever has propelled Chinese companies to the top, the metrics we use to evaluate innovation have missed it.
Thank you for presenting different perspective in every topic....Like Yanis of the Diem25..... I truly enjoy listening to both of you.
The rest of the channels are all cut and paste
Its amazing to me how there is a perception China et al does not innovate. If you look at the published research CS professors in top universities in the US and all over the world, you will see up to half to be Chinese. Even in Engineering at a top world-class tech university, a third of my professors were Chinese and the top texts authored by Chinese, Indian, Russian mostly. Russians being leaders in fluid mechanics and the like.
This is a weird prejudice, maybe racist. innovation comes from the pursuit of profit,western companies used to lead the world, so innovation mainly came from Western companies, but Chinese companies have caught up.
@@songcui4562 For most of written history, China had been the global top economy eclipsing the Indian, Roman, Persion economies in their primes so its not unusual that the Chinese return to that level again.
Excellent interview
well done, young Richard
China should lead the way while you have a good government. Chinese competition will be awesome for the world.
Happy birthday!
Keep up the good work.
Greetings from 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Thank you so much for this translation! I assist you from 🇧🇷
Great job! Thank you very much
Thank you
Happy Birthday 🎉
Thank you.
Great work. Subscribed. I just turned 42 btw.
Welcome!
Liang WenFeng is a great mind. Watch out for the new young to come out in the near future in China. 👍
this is great....thanks
He is one smart and wise man this loan wenfrng
Tks for your translation
Happy birthday
The Chinese mindset is shifting from scarcity to growth esp with the younger generation. Watch this space, more to come.
great, thanks.
I love the question about how do you convince talent to come to DeepSeek. I would bet that people are finding them right now and can't beat them off with a stick. lol
Here my take as an entrepreneur, from my personal experience in business & it's development. Passion drive the entrepreneur, usually the success & wealth generation come after the passion in achieving an innovation or a gap that an entrepreneur spotted. The profits come after. That has been the motivation of the most successful enterprise of the world, example, Apple, HP, Amazon, Ali Baba, Huawei, IKEA & many others...If you study such entreprise they all started off small.
So it is not about lithium or about other raw materials, it is the attitude towards society and the orientation of a society that counts most. Spiritual work, dedication, deeper thinking and the courage that comes from deeper understanding and real contribution will soon be the main path, instead of capturing a market thanks to some temporary advantage, more or less honest. The chinese grade school system is the best and by far, according to the international PISA criterion. The CEO wants the Chinese to try for more innovation and more recognition of the innovators. The West talks about the lack of money for this or the other. Accountants and lawyers vs engineers and scientists. In the West the lawyer side wins.
Wow this Deepseek CEO has a good vision on how the AI industry should proceed and he is positioning his company and vision as the catalyst for the next great leap forward for AI. As I understand current AI is more about pattern learning and manipulation rather than really true AI understanding and reasoning like us humans with our brains. Well one factor which I am not sure how it can be implemented is morals, and determination of order, chaos and shades of grey rather than black or white....
Anyway mundance and repetitive tasks can be easily be converted into AI bots and tools even Judges too can be converted to AI bots which than makes it almost impartial in its judgement if AI truly is able to have true intelligence, but than it comes to the point of evolution of ideas, changing of perspective i.e. there was a time where everyone on Earth thought the world was flat till Galileo proved it wrong! So the limitation of AI is than our understanding of the phyics, chemistry, i.e the sciences and our understanding of the world and our place in it but than who truly has the authority on such matters.... the world today and the public discourse alone has shown how little we really understand the world we live in when even the President of the most power nation on Earth thinks global warming is a haox!
Funny that you need a graphics card to do the work of AI.
@@ysw8291 Actually its because the CUDA of the graphic card can handle multiple calculations which helps with AI computations work. That engine is why graphics card can handle vast amounts of pixel data and refresh it in milisecs that is what u see on screen its just a slow-mo of a flipcard that u flip and u see the animations graphics work the same way but at millisecs speed so u see it animate in realtime and your eyes fool u to think its animations.
Public understanding and attitudes toward science in the USA are very poor. Some of it has to do with religion, some of it with mediocre science education. China seems like they can avoid this failure by stressing the benefits of scientific education. In the USA, the physicists and climatologists do excellent research -- but much of it is rejected by politicians and certain corporations such as oil and coal companies.
Thanks!!
Just fyi, this interview isn't from Jan this year, but July of last year, and was in written not audio form. Richard probably saw some recent text-to-speech version of it.
This guy even speaks efficiently 😂
Happy birthday Richard..
Good to see that Chinese isn't content with being a followers anymore.. hmmmm..
I like to see more of Chinese innovative solutions to free us from oligarchs oligopoly.. hmmmm.. affordability means easier living and therefore making our socialism_communism economic system great again 👍.
from a layman's point of view, I thought China had been pretty innovative over the past decade.
This is Liang WenFeng own POV.
Interesting interview and a bit narrow-minded and insulting to other Chinese scientists, researchers and innovators for him to claim China didn't contribute. In the AI field alone, China has roughly 50% of the AI experts in the world, according to MIT.
True
Where I think Deepseek is a true game changer, is that now can other bigger corporation and even small companies use AI with having their own unconnected servers in their own data centers... Imagine health care, this data is super sensitive and and would be illegal to send the US for probably any country. Suddenly there are so many new apps that could work to stuff we never imagined AI could do because it was to expensive (in terms of data power) I do not think this will lead to less power used in the long run as AI will be essential tool in any sector being efficient... But this is ironically a massive win for democracy made by China.
great interview - this man has really opened up new possibilities for many people around the world.
👍🙏🙏. Peace
Based.
High performance GPU is still a chucking point of China's AI development, but probably not for very long.
wooww, adding salt to injuries 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why nobody talking about who's benefitting from short selling in tech stock?
Who?
Great question and insight. I think it can be proven that more wealth is extracted from the markets in "down turns", than created in "up turns."
Nancy pelosi
😂@@wuguanhui
Do you have any evidence? If not, don't make such nonsense! He didn't even register Deepseek in the United States. His company invests in China, not in US stocks.
Android advanced because it was open source. But Google forgot open source's advantages in developing AI
It remains to be seen whether any leading country will allow their companies to keep Open Sourcing their most advanced models. Alltruism only goes so far.
👍👍👍
I don't think China and innovations and being followers is as bad as he makes out. A lot has changed over the past 10 years. Before, China was just at any different stage of development and there's the language barrier too. The language barrier works both ways too, things in the West are conducted predominately in English, things in Chinese are obviously going to be missed by the West. Many Chinese companies are innovating these days, take the EV market as a prime example.
Is this the same interview by small town voice ???
Good news powerful deepseek a.i make again strong again China a.i. technology
China😮❤
Do you have the original Chinese version?
🌞🖖🏼
Should be closed source for whaite sheets, whaite sheet wannabes and open source for everyone else.