Dispelling SHTF Prepper Combat Myths
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Today on Bear Interdependent we're dispelling SHTF prepper combat myths. We're discussing classics like "is Condor gear airsoft gear?" and "how many magazines" and "what kind of carbine should I own for SHTF". These are actually vitally important questions for SHTF WROL TEOTWAWKI and all preppers- city prepper, urban prepper, doomsday prepper, suburban prepper, homesteader, militia, minuteman- everyone needs to know the answers to these questions.
We look at the Condor MOPC plate carrier, the DPMS Oracle 5.56mm rifle, and the Magpul PMAG. These are all part of the SHTF combat loadout, and that's why we are dispelling these SHTF prepper combat myths. The Prepper combat loadout is important to the militia and minuteman, doomsday preppers, homesteaders, and anyone else looking to survive SHTF WROL TEOTWAWKI. The Condor MOPC plate carrier has served me well over the past 4 years, and is still very dependable. The DPMS rifle is one of many rifles we own, but this particular rifle has over 4,000 rounds through it with no failures. And of course Magpul PMAGS are the industry standard rifle magazines.
As we're dispelling SHTF Prepper Combat Myths, I think preppers will get their combat loadout for SHTF WROL TEOTWAWKI more squared away. The prepper combat loadout aka SHTF combat loadout is highly personal, but something that should be defined NOW and practiced with NOW while we still have the option before civil war, economic collapse, civil unrest, zombie apocalypse, martial law, etc. The Condor MOPC has been a great piece of kit, as has the DPMS Oracle 5.56 rifle, and again, the Magpul PMAGs are industry standard.
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The thing about claiming that “Condor is Airsoft gear”, like its a negative thing, is that most Airsofters run their gear harder than most “preppers”.
what's also funny is that most airsofters play in the expensive equipment that the "preppers" want to have. those that play airsoft pay for there toys about the same for a inexpensive rifle or Springfield XD, glock. those gas blow back toy guns arnt cheap. what airsofters put in to go play commando ranger seal for a day I would kill to have to go buy real shit to go train with, use to by more essential items to put away for stock.
If the Sh** ever really hits the fan, there will be PLENTY of high-dollar gear laying on the ground, on the bodies of people who spent more time & $$$ on gear than they did on training. Pick it up & drive on. AATW !
@@countryheathen1834 1000% what you said!
@@johnh2055 Gonna be A LOT of battlefield pick-ups from the airsofters who spent their parent's money on killer gear so they could run around "cheating" xD
Yea sure it is. Condor is cheap Chinese knockoff shit.
In 2004 " Fallujah Iraq " We started each assault with ten full mags on every Marine, several times I was down to my last magazine or out before resupply. After the first day I made sure if anyone wanted more than ten mags they were available.
" not bragging "but I am pretty sure you could count over 100 loaded magazines in and around my property. I don't keep all my guns in the main safe either , two quick access handgun safes front and rear of the house . one instant thumbprint safe center. And I cached two rifle, two pistols and a Fallujah ammo supply on the property where I can't be observed recovering it. Never know , might have to retake the house. No , I'm not paranoid , I have been to 34 countries on four continents and I know what any man is capable of if he is desperate.
Six on my armor, one in my rifle. But I also had ten in a bandoleer that I'd leave in the truck but could grab pretty quickly if needed.
Right worst day of my life had a few starving Somalian pirates
@@christopherbrownlee4768 I forgot to count the bandolier but I must not have the right ones as I can only fit 20 rd mags in them or boxes or stripper clips. I don't forget some wrapped in the ruck in a way to not clang but also bags, pouches , ammo cans....no resupply and if I find any caches or battlefield drops I'm going to be wary. Any battle packs or "loose ammo" aren't going to load themselves so I want enough mags but load the ones in "storage" a little light just in case the spring issue is real. I've only experienced one with a shot spring but I had forgotten it full with all 30 rounds and over 25 years like that and the mag was probably definitely 40+ years old now. I don't trust that mag anymore.
ROGER THAT
@@davidr1676 if u pull the string the pockets are getting bigger and u kan do 30rd mags in it
From what I understand, Airsoft puts lots of stress on gear. There are still sticks and thorns for it to get torn by, weight and load that it needs to stand up to, and fit standard equipment. Unless you are operating, intense airsoft seems like a good way to test it out
Physical training is crucial. At 46 years old, I’m 5’9” and 150lbs. My loadout is 300 rounds of 7.62x39 (don’t hate) in readily reached mags with another 60 in my pack.
Oh...and yeah...alot of my gear is Condor.
Currently running a "basic" bushmaster 556. Came with a decent red dot sight aswell. For a little over 600 after taxes. Very happy with it so far. 1750 rds through it, not a single malfunction.
In a real, they’re shooting back gun fight, you go through mags and ammo quicker than you could ever imagine...
So true. Even during training and FTXs I can’t even remember changing magazines. We tarted carrying 10+ mags when possible.
Great video!
When I was in Iraq, our standard loadout was 240 rounds, 8 mags. Creature of habit I am, that's how I keep my stuff setup.
I agree that condor is alright stuff, and it's cheap enough that I don't worry about tearing it up when training with it.
And the gun you can afford is better than the fancy one you're still waiting on.
Ill take it from someone whose lived it. 8 mags from now on it is !
Everyone will call the gear crap, but they don't wanna be shot with it lol
It's like the people who shit on .380 don't wanna be shot with one! lol
Sigkim hello Az amigo
Of all the stupid comments, this might be the stupidest.
I bought an M&P 15 sport made by Smith and Wesson years ago, intentionally didn't clean it the first 1000 rounds, ran all ammo types flawlessly then and now. It didn't break the bank. Good serviceable heavy duty military surplus gear is a good value also don't have to break the bank. Greetings from NYLFM.
.. Just picked up a sport 2 also after hearing good reviews all around. Can't wait to get it to the range.
Ditto
Try 1000 rds of Tulammo 5.56
"Cool story bro." is our new favorite phrase we use at home.
Jeremy Bake. Mee too
Lmao same here!! Heard in the military all the time as a I call bull shit on the story. Use it again all the time now. Brings back memory’s hahaha!
I use a Vietnam era loadout...lol works great and it was very inexpensive.
but offers not ballistic protection either.
Just think back in the day the very best in their business used that stuff and were VERY effective with it.
@@WhoWouldWantThisName it was the same gear I started my career with.
Simple Man I like all the tactical stuff but there something really cool about the older looking basic stuff
Ak and straw hat?
I respect the cadence, but fear that this display may trigger Cow-Fart Cortez & Co.
I live in NY , tell me about it. Crazy liberal hell hole. They've just recently legalized full term abortion (infanticide) as well , and it just keeps getting worse here. Thinking about moving south or west , anywhere but the northeast or California.
@@JAY_SS88
Roger that.
We fled the Evil Empire some time back.
All the Best to You!
@@rickquist3992 Thanks , best wishes to you as well.
Its Friday the cow fat vote went down 57 to 0 with 43 abstainers. We win
@@garyminick1050 Isn't it amusing how the Declared Presidential Candidates in the Senate wax poetic on camera about The Green New Deal?
Trying to get them on record in support of that crock is a whole different story...
I believe you are absolutely right! Get what you can afford ; don’t get get hung up on brand names and get up and do. A very well done video Bear!!
How many mags, tourniquets, crevets, whatever, do you need? One more than you just used up... always...one more than you have. You can improvise all of the above... except ammunition...um yeah, you can put the pointy thing on the end of your rifle...or use it as a club, but that's what no ammo means...
Two is one and one is none.
@@tdnavy1066 and three is rarely enough
One tourniquet for every limb.
@@grimwatch5974 at least. But, like I said those you can improvise...ammo? Not so much...
Ian McFee I reload a lot. I can make primers so it comes down to how much powder I can put away. Now if I knew the exact make up of it I would probably make it too. I got enough lead to fill up the bed of my pickup. But that’s because I collect it.
A man can never have to many books or brew to much whiskey or have to much Ammunition. Just a fact of life. Keep going hard.
Travis Creamer. or weed!!
@Hugh Jarce when working a thick sour mash over fire before your amylase takes affect and you don't stickit. I think it's very much brewing. Plus when your turbo kicks and it rocks your tub 28 hrs you know you got it good. Yea I'll call it brewing....
@Hugh Jarce did you go to college to learn those fancy words and how they go together? I hear what your saying but distillation is just a late night when you are doing a run. It's probably the most relaxing part of the the process. I also don't distill because the Man might want to do some tax collection. It's been that way since 1785.
I need to drink more coffee before I write replies.
@Hugh Jarce ooh, ooh I know...you distill out the spirits to make the whiskey. The predistillate mash is called beer
... when did H become "Helo"...
Yeah, that mistake was glaring. Imagine hearing helo and thinking he said kilo. That kind of thing gets people killed. Doesn't clean his guns regularly and screws up phonetic alphabet -- not good!
I'm glad others caught that. Is this guy prior military?
@@carlblair4780, from what I'm seeing no he is not he runs a prepper company.
@@WestCoasHaze they all do...
yea helo sounds too much like kilo. anyone who really joined would know thats hotel. man send a call for fire mission and say “helo alpha” instead of “hotel alpha” before the grid and see what happens
Your so spot on!!
If you can put rounds on target, and enough rounds to keep you in the fight...you're combat effective.
The bad guy's wont know if the were shot by dmps, colt, bushmaster...and so on.
And I also agree about the colt..but costly.
Keep up the great work Oklahoma neighbor.
But can you imagine. You spend thousands on a Gucci AR and training, only to get shot by some dude with a dpms running ball ammo.
Im around a lot of PSA rigs. Havent seen one fail yet, wylde or not. Working class affordable, and shoots straight..without all the high dollar "mall bought" catalog bolt ons. Practice with it, take care of it, repeat.
Same here.
Ima big believer in something not costing more than the sum of its parts. A geo metro gets you on the same road as a Bently.
@@serlawrenceharlem6715 I agree, well said.
The Price of Freedom in the last 30 days this channel is in my top 5. Next to my Asoif channels. Joe Robinet is great, but the amount of no bullshitting here is awsome.
Just ordered a PSA 10 gen 2,cant wait to get it.
I have many weapons but my favorite is still my Glock 19. It's never failed to fire and shoot straight.
@@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader Do you have one? Any problems? I've owned mine since 2001.
docbar amen!
@docbar raven tactical knows what he’s talking about.. The word "tactical" is in his name! The tactical crow probably just picked up a mil spec sig
Fn
@@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader I don't do much "bench shooting", I mainly crawl around on my belly like a reptile shooting at moving targets. I own Glocks and AK's for a reason, they are some of the most dependable weapons on the planet. I practice shooting from all different positions and angles and as often as I can when I'm not working. Don't assume everyone is just a "bench shooter" just because they don't have "tactical" in their name.
Don't forget the drop pouch for a large bag of Cheetos
I've have a condor 3 day assault pack for 10 years now and i use it every day for work, going out, and took it on deployment with me and the only issue is one of the compression straps feel off that's it still going strong.
I've had the same problem with the straps. Check it and you may see some unraveling of the webbing at the top. If you sew it back down it should make the pack feel balanced again. They stitched the straps well so they are unlikely to fall apart on you, but they do unravel until you repair it the first time, since they made like several rows of continuous stitching rather than several independent stitches.
I use the 1980’s LBE and ranger ruck I had in the army, never heard of all those tactical companies you mentioned. The only thing I need that’s new would be a set of new knees 😉
Heel yeah LBE me too
LC 2 Alice gear. Old reliable.
In war zones you find that during calm times 3 - 6 mags is commonly seen but when the action picks up the infantry often doubles there on body load out then they stuff mags everywhere that they find room for them.
3-6 is correct and there should always be someone in your group with spare mags as their main load.
No such thing as too much ammo
@and Justice 4 All angry?
@SavageSurvival yep. Standard combat load. Army retard here lol but yeah sounds about right. 6 +1
My home load is 8 +1 not to include daypack stash. Funny though seeing the guys stack them all forward and then can't lay in the prone position 😂😂
Loadout is mission specific, LRRP, QRF, HKST, Etc.
Bro first thing this dude did was take his time to talk about safety and being ready in case someone gets hurt, subscribed.
Dang, T, I hate it when you crush OOOLAO dreams. ;-)
I will say it again for anyone who’s interested. Go watch AK Operators Union torture test of the Palmetto State Armory’s Freedom AR15. It did not fail. The Daniel Defense rifle failed. You get what you pay for plus a premium mark up for the brand.
Ken Fannin lol but with the DD you get the rattlecan cerakote super comfortable rubber over mold DD only grip and buttstock and a gissele trigger ;)
Darin Hill - dang, you’re right! LOL
Whatever weapon you have and can afford then practice with it, no matter if it's an sks or nagant. If that's all you have use it and be good at using it. So you are def spot on
Gotta love all the chunky preppers out there, especially the ones like this who talk down to their viewers.
Yeah, Planet Fitness is ten bucks a month.
christopher brownlee they always say "shoot shoot shoot, shooting is a perishable skill."
How about run, lift, and fast/consume less calories? Haha
I know it was 3 years ago but damn, the direct/no bullshit attitude will always get a sub from me. Not anywhere near combat but Im active duty, thank you combat vets for doing all youve done and continue to do. Highest respect to our security forces.
Realy enjoyed this one. I Cary 6 plus l. Just what my rig holds. Iam 5'11 and 230 lbs after 4 miles or so I still feel it. This is something poeple should listen to. I used my gear till the stress point started to rip. I took old seatbelt out of van and cut some off. Sewing stress points so rig will work for a long time. Now is the time to do things like this. And like u said boy 3 mags go real fast. I go out at night hunting coyotes sometimes till sunrise. Good to do u know what u can Handel and how long u can go. And if u can hit a moving target. Realy liked this one thank u. Good info for protecting your self and loved one. Were else can u run around in the woods all night. Right here in good old USA. God Bless The USA. Thank u Lord for letting me be born in USA. Best place in the world to me. Stay strong don't go looking for a fight. But be ready to protect yourself and loved ones. After all no one else will its your job to protect yourselves.
Cheap rifle that runs and doesn't fail? Sounds like a winner to me! Partly why I went with an AK. Never had a failure on it. Running with loaded rifle+plates+mags is no joke, it's not for the weak believe that! Like Bear said GO DO! Great video!
I "operate" with a Glock 17 and Colt 6920 AR-15 / Aimpoint red dot. All stock. This is my "go to war" set-up
Zack Zander bout all you really need. except maybe some armor
"this is my wife's gun" "it has has had 4000 ROUNDS through it"
Man, sounds like you found a REAL woman to accompany you through life
Also, go America!!
I've had my condor plate carrier for three years and its been a great investment. Its saved my life once by stopping a 45 round in my side plate. I work in ems so you'll not hear any complaints from me. Keep up the good work brother
Domestic call. Didn't have my head on a swivel. I work in EMS
EMS, no firearm at that time
@@matthewbraddy4922 God bless you. EMS is a hard and dirty job, but very important.
In a former lifetime as a part-time LEO in a small southern town I had to supply ALL of my gear, even my patrol rifle. I had NO problems or concerns with my Bushmaster M-forgery and mil-surplus mags. As for other gear, my current 782 gear is a mix of very early Blackhawk, Tactical Tailor, Condor and mil-surplus. It works very well and has zero issues after almost 20 years. My EDC belt us a 15 year old Condor Instructor's belt. The velco tab is a but fuzzy, but it still supports whatever I happen to be carrying. BTW, my wife's main AR is a lightly modified DPMS Oracle that she's had since 2013. She ran it through a Carbine Course a few years ago with zero issues.
I used to play airsoft a lot when I was younger, I actually plan on meeting a friend I used to play with tommorow. We use airsoft gear to play airsoft, and it's not perfect, but it gets by pretty far with how rough we are with it. But most importantly, we actually used our gear, a lot of other people haven't. I know how sturdy my stuff is, I know it's limits. And I know how I like to run it under stress.
Bear don’t let them hate on your air soft gear they’d want you on there side when it came down to it lol
I know I would lol
Thank you brother for your videos I'm a felon so all they can obtain is a high velocity 50 cal air rifle and a 25 Cal air rifle within 10 magazine clip
Are you guys able to own/run blackpowder gear? I enjoy decent accuracy & range using sabots.
One of my cheapies is scoped, and always surprises the uninitiated.
Beats the heck outta pre-charged pneumatics...
I've seen that 50 cal air rifle. That thing will do some damage man.
Felons can own black powder^^^
One thing Bear is correct about is his statement “run what works for you.” I listen to several UA-cam prep/gun channels and they all have their opinions; similar, but different. I listen for ideas, opinions and their take on things. I don’t always agree, but it always gives me something to think about. Having a military background; unless you have been in combat or any operation that combat is a possibility; doesn’t mean squat. They have motor pool, supply, mess, etc personal, who have zero combat experience and only do enough to qualify. I wouldn’t trust their load out advice, unless they train and say what Bear says “this is my load out, run what works for you.” I have a friend, I talk to infrequently; retired navy, broke his leg/had to ring out 2 weeks before completion (actual SEAL friend corroborated his story), works private, actually does operations; who says the same thing all the time; “run what works for you.” So, does everyone on their team. Train until your gear becomes an extension of you. If Bear trains, I’ll listen to his comments/rants. My friends helped me build my kit. My AR cost $750; complete. Started with NcStar, moved up to Condor; still have the NcStar stuff; not great, but it was cheap. My friends told me the points to re-enforce. I train as much as I can afford to spend; I don’t have volumes of land. One thing I can say is I’m deadly with my rig; steel target, room clearing, tactical/no one shooting back deadly. I train with my rig and “it works for me”. I hope if SHTF I don’t freeze; if I don’t, I have faith in my training. I will win my fire fights.
The PSA ar-15 kits are good, I've helped people assemble theirs after they saw mine, been reliable with brass and steel case ammo. Good cheap rifle👍
thank you me and my wife are your new to homesteader preppers thanks for helping out the young folks ill be sure to proclaim you to the heavens
Got myself a Del-Ton about 6 months ago and have put around 1500 or so rounds through it, give or take. Not a single ammo or gun related issue.
I've had zero malfunctions through my first PSA build through about 3k rounds of 5.56, and I've also shot close to 7K with a .22lr bolt insert. No issues other than the .22 ammo being dirty. 5.56 still runs fine even when the gun is full of .22 gunk. Used the money I saved on that rig for ammo and a decent sight. I beat the gun up constantly, no issues. I don't care what anyone says, as long as you have a halfway decent barrel and bolt, the gun will run just fine. Save your money and use it to gain proficiency. You did a great job explaining this. Thank you for this video!
Also, many people don't realize this, but the "carbon" that enters a DI system actually works as a sort of dry lubricant. Yes, ARs should be cleaned occasionally (mostly just to inspect for wear) but the guns run just fine when dirty. At least in my experience.
Got a PSA striped lower. Waiting on a mid length kit and 10 mags from PSA coming this Monday.
Great start get some iron sights with that
@@jeremysteckman6234 Just came in today got to start building it and get a rear sight😁
I have mbus pro on mine they're great solid steel
@@jeremysteckman6234 ill check em out I'm used to military rear sights can't see there being a huge difference.
Depends what ya like I've got a 556 that's an A2 style and three hundred black out that I run Magpul front back
I have had good and bad condor gear. Working as a securoty contractor in Astan for 6 years I had the opportunity to torture test quite a few things.
I personally had a condor vest fall apart on me after only 2 months of shtf style use with daily wear and multiple don/doffs a day. That is terrible.
On the flip side I still have a condor recon chest rig that still looks brand spanking new, along with multiple mag pouches that have served without complaint for years without damage.
Another fun fact is that I picked up a pair of tru-spec 24/7 in 2011 that I am STILL wearing today that went all over hell and back with me while I could get maybe a year or two out of those 5.11's they kept issuing me. Talk about an unpopular opinion, people hate hearing that one.
You move with the stealth, speed, and majesty of a [sloth dressed up like a] tiger.
Its so nice to see someone carrying more than 2/3 mags my current web set up carry 12 mags.
Coming from a guy who ran down to the last round in my last magazine in a 1 on 1 gunfight.
I never want to have to be worried thinking about my last few bullets in a gunfight again.
If it feels heavy train with it until it doesn't.
Any time I see (or say) anything about Condor gear, I assume a healthy amount of sarcasm.
Bear.... When I realized that this world was about to get real stupid, I started building up my weapons and gear.... I built my rifle with an Anderson lower.... Got the whole thing done for under 500.... Built up my plate carrier with a condor base.... Got my plates.... and then I went to the military surplus store and got my pouches and IFAK components. I live in CA and it makes training with an AR a little challenging, but I get it done. I just want to say Thanks for putting all of the stuff up that you do.... I appreciate it.
There you go Bear, this is a good video! Keep them coming.
Thank you! I get tired of one of my friends always hassling me for only spending $X on this or that when I should have spent more in his opinion. All I can tell him is “easy for you to say, you’re active duty national guard and live with your parents!” I work two jobs to pay for my own house and have bought inexpensive stuff so that I could afford to get everything I need. Now I can start replacing lower quality stuff with better stuff as time goes on, but if SHTF now, at least I’ve got something, even if it will only last a few weeks or months.
I’ve got the exact same DPMS. Bought it on sale at Sportsman’s a few years ago and I freakin’ love it! I’ve only put about 1500 rounds through her, but like your rifle, not a single failure to fire or extract. Not one. I do field strip and clean it the same night I shoot it, without fail though. I guess that carried over from the Army lol.
Have you checked out the Meprolight RDS? I picked one up and think it’s the best bang for the buck at $300-$450. As good as any in the $1000 range and far superior to anything cheaper that I’ve seen or heard of. That was one of my upgrades from the $50 fire field RDS I bought with the DPMS. I also picked up the magpul pro flip up sights which are exquisite. Those were a compulsive overspend, but a lot of it can be. It’s also a lot of fun!
Also, thanks for bringing up size. You are absolutely right. It does make sense to keep body size in mind when thinking about how much weight to carry over distance. You’ve mentioned it many times in this and other videos and I would agree also that training is super important. If you’re small like me, it’s especially important to be in great shape and do a lot of road marching or hiking with a pack. If you train hard enough and are bad ass enough, you can carry as much (and sometimes more) than your larger peers.
I proved this as an infantry medic in that I regularly found myself carrying a medium ruck that weighed 60lbs, plus a Charlie bag of medical gear and supplies (splints, bandages, IV bags, sterile water, drugs, scissors, stethoscope, BP cuff etc.) weighing in at 45lbs, plus an M-16, plus a .45ACP, heading up never ending switchbacks while pushing all the crybaby’s to drink water and keep up with the platoon.
In one of my first experiences like that, a new transfer from the 101st wasn’t living up to his old unit’s reputation. In his defense they had assigned him to be the M-60 gunner, but he wasn’t keeping up. Eventually I started carrying his 60 for him, but it still wasn’t enough. A mile or two later he crashed to the ground in a thunder of Kevlar and aluminum hitting logs.
He was in his early 20’s, at least 6’ tall and 190lbs. Me... 17 years old, 5’4 and 130lbs at the time. Not quite so lean and mean 30 years later, but I still try lol.
Rockin' the Nutnfancy pissed off Owl patch.
Right on brother
Bear! Love your channel! God bless you for keeping it real. Me, 25 yr LEO in Atl metro, SWAT 10 yr.... Means absolutely NOTHING!!! Not that you asked but I keep two kits; 1 for fast active shooter type with 8 mags total, then heavy for static missions i.e. barricade subjects.... same load out w diff options. Shot gun less lethal, gas etc. Yes absolutely RUN. RUN!! your gear....Run it HARD! Test. Eval. Test so more!!
Again, keep it up brother! Speaking truth!
Very good content T Condor was my main rig while playing semi-pro Airsoft for 5 years and that same rig has now been converted into a Real Steel rig that plate carrier has been submerged in swamp water and rolled through the mud multiple times because I played hard during our Mil-Sims and now train hard as hell with that same rig so Condor is very well built. Period I also run a PSA upper and lower the only thing I don't like about the DPMS is the gas block and key you have to watch that they are staked and pinned properly otherwise a good firearm
just seeing you shoot those targets has me thinking about how blessed we are to live in this country
Preach brother, I have one of those friends that's top of the line everything. Well my stuff works just fine and I'm a better shot than you with my "cheap crap".
People that talk about guns are my favorite. My PSA milspec lower pistol with BCM upper with some magpul goodies and a Viper pdw brace, and sig sauer romeo5 dot sight, has never let me down and it wasnt expensive to put together at all. Definitely dont need top notch everything
"Mil spec= lowest bidder poor quality blah blah blah"
Do y'all realize the level quality to even be considered for that? They don't buy from any or every company they can you know. What I'm saying is it wont be the best but it'll be good enough.
@Ruben Hernandez that's more of a personization thing. They have options now. I'm not saying just use military gear. I'm saying it's notbas bad as most people say. If you've ever used it you'd know. I have bags, knives, and tools used by the military and I haven't had problems. Military surplus can be good gear if you are picky about it because some places are shady and will sell you broken gear.
Not really. I have no problems with my issued gear. What exactly, is poor quality about current issued equipment?
Bear .brotha you is the real deal. That's exactly what I keep saying to everyone that takes my ccw classes and self defense course. Just do it .and train. Train train. But keep being bold and blunt . We are a dying bread boys.
Plaroon designated marksman: “I turn cover into concealment”
Platoon .50 gunner: “I turn cover into confetti”
Platoon mortarman: “fuck everything about you”
This one made my day Bear. I run a regular S&W M&P 15 sport, stock G19 and a Condor cross draw vest. Just had the good fortune to meet up with some like-minded people and we meet once or twice a month to train and learn. My gear is pretty modest compared to most of them, but no one seems to make a big deal about it. Facta non verba!
Ammo is LIFE. No resupply unless the guys you shoot have mags that will fit your rifle. My units normal load out for peace time patrol was 6 mags with a back up of 2 in the but pack. When deployed it was a normal loadout plus what ever you wanted to carry extra. Your life. Your back and body carrying it. You make it back alls good.
When I was using that tax return to get a new gun I almost got a bullpup AUG Steyr..... Found out they don't accept AR mags...the most common rifle in America.... Deal breaker for me
Their mag doesn't need to fit, but the rounds being the same calibre would obviously be of use...
No guns here in the UK (Pre-Shtf anyway...) so it's Old school rules for me...
@@OldNavajoTricks whatever you can get your hands on if that's the case.
@@don8659 Yup, Good old British grit and a scowl :-D
The best thing about the AR-15 platform, is that you can get into a rifle for sub 600, and as you save and learn and train you can upgrade EVERY> SINGLE>PIECE of it and still come out under 1000. it can be tailored to you. Stoner knew what he was doing. Modularity, and simplicity. Some companies just tailor to people with more expensive tastes and do business based on a name.
Bear, another great vid! Me and mine run AK/sks . Decades of it. Dependable and inexpensive. Glad that ARs have come way down In affordability.
Nice video and lots of good points. A couple years ago i bought a S&W Sport AR15 and have put probably somewhere like 1500 rounds through it with no failures. I bought this rifle for $500 new and came with a 30 round PMAG with i think are the best mags. Just another $500 Rifle. Stay safe and keep up the good work Bear.
Since resupply is not coming who do so many ppl buy ceramic plates? I understand steel is heavy but it’s also reusable after you take a round (as long as it’s rated for that round).
mason williams your taxpayer dollars bought these
OUR RE UP SUPPLY IS THE DEAD PEOPLE WE PUT ON THE GROUND BAWWWWWWW HAHAHAHA
I’d trust condor over govt issue hahaha .....had to it played into the video to good not to lol.
By that logic why have more than one med kit. How often do you plan on being injured?
Get your plates coated and your argument is void. I’d rather plan on getting shot multiple times and never need it then the other way around.
I polished the heck out of my turd! I bought a Del Ton Sport, A year later I put a Midlength Strike Industries CHF Strikefighter Barrel, a VG6 Gamma Brake, SI Mlok rail, MRO on a Geissele Mount, Geissele trigger, Geissele Braided Buffer Spring, SI Stock, K2 Grip, Nickel Boron BCG, Radian CH, SI Skeletonized Gas block, Melonited Spikes Tactical Gas Tube. She is a hooptie with some spinners, a naughty paint job, and a hell of a sound system!
"Chem-trail looggies" 😂 love the content! Sub'd!
I go by what Clint from Thunder Ranch said; guys will slowly start removing mags during patrol because it's heavy until they're at 3-4 mags and once they get into a firefight, they're back at 10 mags the following day lol.
Thank you for the AR comment and the plate carrier comment....been waiting for someone else to call out the couch pew pew champions for awhile LoL..... spending as much for a car on a rifle you never use is like having a wife you never spend time with...love what you do bear God Bless and Shalom
I buy cheap gear, most cheap gear suffers at stitching and seams. If your a “prepper” and can’t sew or stitch you are going to be disappointed when your shit breaks and you can’t fix it. I sit in front of the tv reinforcing stitches my self, cheap gear now bullet proof by my own hand and my skills are getting better.
This is refreshing, seeing a video of someone confirming everything I already know. Two or three guys like this can reek havoc on a platoon of know it alls.
You will make an excellent resupply
@@cardboard_shaft Share that with your know it all platoon. And tell them in advance, I said, thanks for all the stuff.
I have 2 AR15s one Smith and Wesson M&P 15 sport. That gun has thousands of rounds of handloads, steel, mil surp. Only ever had 1 failure and that was from a split casing (handloaded brass used one too many time) that was a catastrophic failure due to the Case being absolutely jammed into the chamber. Not the rifles fault. And an Anderson Lower, BCA 7.62x39 upper that has around 1000 rds thru it. That gun had mag and firing pin issues. Once I got the proper mags and an enhanced firing pin for 7.62 and now it’s awesome.
I'd rather have Condor on my chest than Tactical Taylor on layaway.
To those who are "shtf" or "AR" guys, Consider the sound aspect of most rifles. Most people overlook the fact that when you are in the woods with your crew or family, you won't have your handy dandy earplugs or muffs on. So, when you least expect it, you'll have to defend yourself with your super loud rifles. As your ears are ringing from cracking off 3 mags of 30 stacks, your buddies/family will be screaming at you, but you won't be able to hear anything. The biggest issue with ARs really is the sound. You won't be able to stop an assailant and "gear up". You will have to put rounds down range, then blow your ear drums out. ARs are good rifles, but only if you are able to plan your fight. Get a grab and go gun that you can use without compromising your own health in any way.
I discovered that when it is below -20 the lubrication I was using causes malfunctions
Use G96 gun lubricant.
Stay away from -20° weather. I live on TX
I am a Wisconsin native, recently stationed in Tx... I would take -20 over 120 any day haha
Use high temperature grease and mix a few drops of gasoline. You won't have issues.
Best UA-cam channel hands down !!! I appreciate these videos
Common sense preparedness, that's why I love this channel. Palmetto is one of my go to's as well. 💯
New sub so I'm sorry for the late comment. Just a couple things because I love your stuff. As a military medic myself, I agree with most of the stuff you are saying. However, just because a rifle has an "ammo issue" does not mean that it is solely the ammunition as the issue. I've had plenty of weapons that solely work with specific ammo and are picky. Secondly, as someone that has seen combat, I would say that I agree with the ammo and fitness bits. I would like to comment that your gear is mostly as good as you make them. I've worked with Condor and Palmetto plenty and they are well rounded, as long as you take care of the equipment. In order, care for yourself, care for your gear and then care for other people around you. See ya!
You really need to make a "GET OFF YOUR COUCH GO DO!" Shirt!
Bear, I have two PSA AR 15s. one is 7.62x36 and the upper came from Midway. The guns shoot great accurate, reliable and I love em. Vortex scope and red dot. Yea baby!!
If I was on a limited budget I would get a Smith & Wesson m&p 15. I got nothing against the colt but honestly I don't see how they're any better quality than a Smith & Wesson or DPMS. I'd save the extra money and spend it on ammo and magazines and spare parts and be perfectly happy. This is coming from a guy who has not one, but two $5,000 ARs. Heck, The rifle I tote around the most is a 20 inch BCM with open sights and M16 carry handle that I paid $400 for. Anymore these days if it's from a reputable manufacturer you're not going to have any problems so long as it was put together right. Personally I do avoid Condor gear when I can. The velcro they use just never seems to last that long and sometimes the stitches run. but you can just put some new stitches in it and it be fine. Cordura is cordura in my experience. I just keep a handy stitcher and Kevlar thread with me for repairs. All gear eventually fails.
I wouldnt. S&w m&p is having a big problem right now.
BTW, you always glue the ends of stitches.
Atleast I do.
My grandfather taught me that from his previous experience. Worked for him and worked for me for a long long time.
@@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader most people dont know that theres only a hand full of metal foundries that actually make ar parts.
One of the best ones in the states is. Brass and aluminum llc located in Michigan.
They make for colt, fnh, dpms, bear creek arsenal, and a few others.
Brass and aluminum is a good solid reliable business, and if the "manufacturer" dont stand behind the product, bet your balls b&I llc will.
@@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader yeah pretty much. There's only like six manufacturers who produce like 80% of all parts. That's why I have no problem with cheaper ARs. It's always a good idea to check specs on any rifle though.
@@constitutionalrepublican1611 the only problem I'm aware of is extractors breaking. Honesty, extractors and most small parts only cost a few dollars each. One should have plenty of spare parts on hand anyway. My opinion, Run the stock parts till they break and replace. Keep a spare bolt for go time and use the stock for training and I doubt you will have many problems.
You're so right Bear, when it comes to equipment, nothing beats personal experience, trying it for yourself. If its effective and it works well for you, then use it. I've found that when it comes to kit you'll find a break point with equipment where you can pay more, but you can't get better. If you're rich you can afford to spend thousands finding the last 10% of capability in a name brand or high end manufacturer. Most of us can't and quite honestly, you don't need too.
Thanks Bear, Much respect for keeping it real.
I'm out of the country currently, but when I get back into the states you inspire me to "Get out and go do".
I just wanted to say think you.
Damn... I spent a fortune for a "tactical" chase lounge and you still called me out!.. Lmao.
Bob G the new Laz-e-Boy Multicam one? That thing is sweet...!
I have Condor carrier, pants, a sling, and one their bushcraft knives from back when they were still cheaper than a mora knife. Zero complaints. In fact I have nothing but confidence in this gear
Air softers aren't going to spend $299 on a carrier. If they choose a $80 carrier that doesn't mean the $80 carrier is made for airsoft. I have had no problems with Condor.
I also like the BSA red dots. I've only switched to the Romeo 5 because PSA always throws in 10 pmags.
There are quite a few top quality carriers for under 200. Ferro concepts slicksters are 145
for some stuff it doesnt matter like mag pouches but for the actual carrier thats going to support the weight itself you shouldnt cheap out. you can find decent plate carriers like eagle etc for a few bucks more and it wont be flimsy and wont fall apart if one thread breaks
@@socalpumpballer I've been using the Condor that came with my CATI plate set. I've worn it quite a bit and it seems sturdy. If anything, I'd be worried about the drag handle and that's about it.
I run a Romeo 5 on my DB-15 love that sight. Only paid 75 for it too.
LoneWanderer360 just gotta singe the loose threads and you’re fine.
Preach it brother!! I have the same rifle no issues with it what so ever. everyone needs that base that they can thing upgrade from.
DPMS gets the job done anytime!
You said, "If were doing Mozambique drill, two to the chest and one in the head, I can Mozambique thirty guys before I need to reload." It would be 10 with a 30rnd pmag like you're using.
Bought my trama kit .. only got a range that goes to 100 ft... for the public where I live... don't have as many mags and ammo as you . looking for more condor equipment . Yup you are a bear size man... I cannot even shoot like you.. what shot ranges should we practice... to 100 yards AR ok? what about pistol? what distances are you proficient in with the AR? is your sights on quick release? you missed the light.. eh I'm new to this stuff that's why we watch Bear Independent... yup but your built like a tank...
I know you wanted to hear from Bear but since no one else has spoken here I thought I'd offer my 2 cents. No expert by any means but just ask yourself what environments you are likely to find yourself in the most, where you would also have your rifle that is? This is going to vary from person to person, but most of us are going to be either unarmed, or at least no rifle, in urban areas during the initial bug-out post apocalyptic period. So IOW, consider where you live (neighborhood) and wherever you may go from there. Assuming your guns and gear are stored at home that is. Then how far will you be able to spot, or be spotted, a threat and engage them in those environments? I know we might be able to see someone from 1000 meters but are we going to actually engage them, or take fire from them at that distance? I think not. Now in the earlier described urban areas where you may have a pistol on you, you need to consider that this is still likely to be similar to actual shootings on record today. Anywhere from right on top of you out to maybe 40 or 50 feet is where most violent encounters are likely to occur in such an environment. The majority of shootings take place at the closest of those distances, and decrease relatively so consistent with the distance. So, IOW, the further away, the less likely. So better to be good up close and able to grapple and retain your weapon than to just get good at shooting small things at 25 yards. Same principle is true for your long guns. Better to be good at turning corners with that thing and not flagging or exposing yourself in windows and such than to be sniper school ready but slow AF when ambushed. It is better to be well drilled on reaction to fire and assessing the battlefield than to be super fast at reloads and fancy John Wick moves but not ready to do any of that at the drop of a hat. Again, just my thoughts, but I got these ideas from people that are alive because of this, and some of them teach others this stuff for a living now.
A few questions:1. How much water are you carrying? you have what appears to be a 3 liter camelback on, but 3 liters is not enough water to sustain a fight, or a movement to contact, or any operation that would require fighting and moving over any distance or time. Fighting is inherently physical. your ruck could have more, but you already have a pack on your back so it doesn't seem like you'll be using a ruck.
2. What does your physical fitness program look like? You are carrying 13 pounds in 5.56 ammo alone. Add some pistol mags, a pistol, your rifle, the various tools (like knives, leatherman, etc) that you are probably carrying, and you have around 25 pounds of weaponry on your person. your plate carrier weighs somewhere around 3 pounds, plus another 8ish with the plates. you've got somewhere around 35 pounds of gear on without anything to sustain you. I didn't even include your medical equipment or a rucksack. That is flat out too much weight. The military does it every day, its true, but we also live on 2 1400 Calorie MREs a day, and have entire battalions whose sole purpose is to sustain combat operations. you will not have this luxury in SHTF. Once again, unless you plan on sitting on your porch with all that on, you will be exhausted once you start a sustained fight.
3. What is your mission set? This equipment is for combat operations only. To me, that says "aggressive". I totally understand if your intent is to just patrol your compound and fight bad guys looking to steal your stuff, but how realistic is that mission set? You aren't scavenging/looting abandoned buildings in this setup for reasons I've already stated, so you are carrying all this with the sole intent to get in a gunfight. Unless people are attacking you, the only other reason to have this is so you can attack someone else.
If you have answers to these questions I am all ears.
P.S., H in the phonetic alphabet is pronounced "hotel", not "helo"
"Hello my vegan yoga friend" 😂
I have a shellback and currently run a London Bridge but also have a condor mopc and it worked great and I'll hand it to a family member or friend kitted out with confidence it was the first I bought and I went hard af in the condor for a year and a half and it still does the things with heavy steels in it without problems
Great video once again. My little group has developed the saying that some gear is better than no gear. Some weapon than no weapon, etc. I'm off to go buy some more food😁
When I was in the Marines, we were issues 6 mags. I would run out pretty quick. I would barrow 6 extra mags from a SAW gunner because they didn't need their mags. So having 12 mags worked well. I don't ever remember running dry. I was even able to hand one of the SAW gunners two mags one time. I was an 0352 I bet the 0311's ran dry quickly too. So I agree with carrying at least 10 and one in the rifle. You can also get the bandoliers and have a few in you're pack.
Shalom, personally I think thinking is good! 🤣😂🤣😂
I LOVE Condor! The MOPC is actually really really awesome and actually tough. Their mag pouches seem to be pretty good too. All of their gear seem pretty beyond their price point IMO.
Shoot, this summer I’m going to save for the BCM Recce 16” and it will be my only training rifle. Buy one or two rifles and thousands of rounds lol
Get yourself a Ventile or an SAS Arctic wind proof Smock for those chilly days and if your just standing around some wool long johns.
A CTX knitted wool hat or Esk Tweed Highland hat by Laksen is also very good at keeping the noggin cosy.