The CIWS shooting down German rocket and 88mm artillery while the incoming alarm sounded was pretty awesome. Imagine being the German forward observer watching these advance air defenses literally shooting shells straight out of the air with pinpoint accuracy.
@@realWARPIG Except that Germans don't use a decimal point, but a decimal _comma._ As in "10 comma 5" for 10,5cm. Or "Zehn fünf". Your correction to the correction has been corrected.
My opinion the fight would have been much different... 1. German Fighters would not make it into the battlefield nor even see the F-22's or F-35's, they would just start dropping out of the sky. 2. Attack would happen at 3am and all bunkers, artillery, runways, infrastructure, bridges and armor would be taken out by either Cruise Missiles, JDAM's or GBU-28 Bunker Busters from High Altitude. 3. Naval Forces would never have been that close to shore especially the carriers and would not have been needed for Air support since RAF Fairford is 160 Miles from Omaha Beach. F-22's and F-35's would have flown Air cap over the battlefield while the B-1's, B-2's and B-52's would have decimated the entire shore batteries. 4. They would not have needed C-17's dropping in tanks since the US Army would have used their LCU-2000 landing craft that could hold (5) M-1 Abrams Tanks and would have easily landed on the beach after the main attack. 5. Once all Targets within 15 miles out have been neutralized since German WWII Artillery had a range of 11 miles. Support Elements would start being mobilized to the shore. 6. The main objective would not be Omaha at this point but Sword which would allow the capture Caen Airport quicker and to create a base to allow C-17's, V-22's, C-130's and CH-53's to bring in the Tier 3 Units from Great Britain where they would be staged. It also would allow other landing craft to arrive closer to the base since Caen has an inland port which is 6 miles from the Airport. This would allow troops to stage equipment and supplies much faster and easier. 7. There would be no clearing bunkers with troops, A-10's would not be providing close air support until the bunkers, AA Guns, Artillery were neutralized. This fight would be very swift, quick and devastating since it would be done in darkness with Night Vision and Thermal Technologies which would leave the German's in complete disarray and their command unable to communicate. I believe their will to fight would have ceased within the first 30 min.
Next: 1. Find hitlers bunker 2.destroy it with b2s 3.break german moral with a lot of crazy stuff 4.defeat germany 5.defeat the soviets 6.kill stalin take over russia 7.profit
Nah, in regards to number 4 you gotta think like a general. Specifically a general that was in the airborne or something that just wants a chance to conduct a combat jump that he never got to do as a young officer all those years ago so now he's gonna do it because he can. For anyone who is too oblivious to tell, this is a joke.
Ther would be no F-22 or F-35 at Omaha but F-18 since US send its carriers, and right now, they only carrier combat aircraft is F-18, and they would not send their modern air force to England Air Fields for 2 reasons. 1. It is still internal war between US and UK for dominance after WWII 2. No airfield in UK at the time is capable of operating raptors
Even if we did have to storm the coast, JDAMs, Bunker-Busters and AC-130s would make quick work of aa, bunkers and any strong point or supply's left. Helicopters would offload almost an entire battalion of men (at least), skipping the bloodbath on the beach, leaving plenty of time to offload more men, tanks and supplies in a leisurely and orderly manner. Aachen wouldn't have been nearly so troublesome either. Berlin may have liberated before the Soviets could even cross the German/Polish border.
@@sharkybate7115 ifs and buts though. If the US has this shit what would the EU have ... the same. The Soviets would be pouring across a nuked Germany long before the US got on the sand. You would have the help of the RN though ... all three ships. Canada would be prosecuting the war using hate speech laws. Half the UK would be helping whilst the smaller half would be moaning about it and, not so, secretly helping Jerry.
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handle Based on this vid, my assessment is assuming only the US is modern. If all Allies are modern, it would be akin to Dessert Storm, where the whole thing is done in a month and a week.
@@userjlj there'd be plenty of bunkers left. The SAMs would have denied the air to any planes trying to get withing 200 miles of the beach. No amount of HARMs could make a dent in something built that scale. The idea that a western air force can just waltz in over an airspace defended by modern AA systems is jingoism and self delusion. SAM systems are a whole lot cheaper to build than planes are, and they're a lot more effective at anti-air ops too. You'll notice that in the last 50 years, only in the Arab-Israeli wars of 67 and 73 did modern aircraft face modern SAMs. There a reason why we don't do this anymore. And a reason why the Russian S400 and US Patriot is so feared. SEAD against such is IMMENSELY dangerous even with high tech weapons such as a F35. If Normandy had the equivalent S400 systems stationed there, no aircraft would have ever gotten withing 100 miles or more of the coast. They'd be stuck in Britain. WW2 tactics with modern weapons doesn't ever work, if your opponent also has modern weaponry. Only when they don't does it work out OK.
Imagine being that German pilot watching your friends just explode for no reason and then the one shot you get does NOTHING. Keep in mind too that this is only a 60-70 year difference in technology.
So much overkill. Anything from the F4 onwards would have been enough - no point in using a stealth anything when no one else has anything approaching modern radar.
@@builuuquanghuy4144 Good point - I was referring more to the poor FW190s being shot down more than anything - AA is a different story and would be able to hit anything the in the vid if it was on a strafing run
@@pauljackson171 just like it’s predecessor the p-47 thunderbolt a plane so strong it has flown back to the runway with cylinders blown out and in one incendent a whole wing missing.
Imaging being a German commander at Normandy Beach in the middle of the night and out of nowhere, most of your bunkers explode and the only thing you herd was a sonic crackle before the explosions simultaneously went off. You decide to fire your 88s and other artillery batteries toward the beaches only to see almost all of the shells explode in the sky before they even hit the ground. Even more so, imagine being a Luftwaffe pilot on your way to Normandy and at around 20 miles or so before you even reach your target, almost all of the planes around you mysteriously explode at the same time and you didn't even see or hear anything in the air before hand.
@@secondhanzo4938 They could just walk into machine gun fire by 10940 and come out just fine cause by that time armour technology would make our current tech almost useless 😂
@@cascadeflims7261 Dude the Vietnamese and North Korea airforce with their 1950s MiG 21 would shit on Nazi Jets. Our modern Jets would wipe the floor with them.
Realistically the only American losses would be either an unfortunate friendly fire incident, or just some freak accident like getting hit by a jeep or falling off the side of a ship.
Just imagine, you’re a 1944 German soldier, then all of a sudden you see an f35 drop a JDAM on you, or you see a surface to air missile destroy the base next to you.
…and Berlin would’ve fallen a lot sooner. Then Stalin would have a heck of a choice- stop the Red army where they were at & no split East/West Europe (how far west was Russia in June ‘44?) , or risk it all attacking the Allied army just to avenge Operation Barbarossa
War on large scale and individual battles do not play out like a game my friend .. it’s much different. Afghanistan is a great example of how simply having the technological advantage won’t win you a conflict
Whilst this shows the effect of modern tech against the Normandy defences, the _actual_ battle would have been much quicker. A modern Battleship would have sat about a mile out of Dover and just _DEVASTATED_ the beach defences. Each bunker would have had a cruise missile posted through the gun port. Instead of British and US paratroopers being dropped in prior to the invasion, a joint task force of SAS and SEALs would have HALO’d in and just played merry hell with the defenders and reserve units. British Paras, RM Commandos, 1st Marine Recon and US Rangers wouldn’t have fast roped on the beach, they would have fast roped _directly on to the bunker objectives_ The Luftwaffe wouldn’t have even made it into the air, all of the aircraft would have been bombed on the airfields the night before. All of this would have been done in the dead of night. The attack would have commenced at midnight, Allied troops would be pushing into Paris by dawn. The total liberation of France would have taken a week (give or take a day) Total German Surrender within 2 months.
So, one Surface Action Group. This would include a submarine, which fires TLAMs. TLAMs would deal with the bunkers fairly easily, and with a little bit of help from F-35 spotting, SEAD pretty good too. After that, its a matter of eliminating targets at will. Meanwhile, engagement of enemy aircraft that do manage to scramble will be done with AMRAAM or Sidewinder. Deployment of NATO coalition to follow after SBS, SAS, Delta, and SEAL forecon operations finish. Land invasion is really only limited by supply lines, armored divisions effortlessly roll up the Wehrmacht, only urban zones proving a problem. In that then, Apache gunships engage in CAS and eliminate with laser guided 70mm rockets.
@@Danishboi6766 no. more likely the Americans would be going straight for Holland and the free drugs so they could take them stateside and sell them. you have to think like politicians. Where's the $? and of course if el presidente Trump was in charge he would just sell out to Adolf for a few prime location hotels.
I think the Germans would be like: "Hey, those planes have similiar engines to our Me-262s!" "That's impossible, the allies would take time to figure out our tech!" "Nevermind that! Weird plane with propeler on top is coming straight at us and its about to shoot its gun!"
@@TheLastSterling1304 there was only 1 ever prototype Helicopter made during WW2. It was a German one and only ever made 1 flight I can't remember where it left from in Germany and where it went to but that was its first and last flight before it was retired
Imagine a US Armored division in the attack on the low countries when the German armor was mostly panzer 1 and 2,s with a handful of panzer 3's, early-model 4's with the short 75mm, and Czech TNH and panzer 35t's with 37mm guns?
@@Two-EyedShockwave yes but also remember that most IFVs are only rated up to 14.7 HMG fire not a 37 mm cannon so those light tanks might be able to pen them an Abrams on the other hand is rated to stop some thing like a 125 mm APFSDS shell yeah nothing from ww2 is going to come close to penetrating that
@@gwydionrusso3206 OK, OK, hear me out. A tank driver gets some bigger balls and has a concussion and decides to challenge a battleship... those rounds would do something!
I just realized how sweet BF2042 would be with a parachute drop from a plane like that old game MAG. I know, I know just jump from a helicopter. A plane would mix things up though.
Imagine this: You're a tired German soldier who's recently received news that there will be an invasion on a beach your going to be stationed on. Soon after arrival you see defenses blown up immediately, then you see an aircraft approaching your location, but this is no ordinary piston fighter, it's engine sound sends shivers down your spine, almost as if you know what will happen soon isn't good. Suddenly, you hear an incredibly loud "BRRRRRRT", as you look up the aircraft is long gone so you look behind you to check if any of your fellow soldiers knew what just happened. And to your total surprise, they're all dead. Soon you'll come to realize the following invasion will be hell.
Yeah, see... that wouldn't happen. The 30mm rounds are supersonic. They would arrive before the sound of the gun. So suddenly the world around them just explodes in a hail of metal and depleted uranium as some rounds explode, and others just punch through everything. Pretty standard for the GAU-8 Avenger to run 'combat mix' as they call it. Then the sound of the gun gets to them. Why observers here two sets of sounds are thanks to the fire rate of the A-10 is from the impact of the munitions and some detonating, and then the sound catches up. Both sound about the same, since they have the same frequency. But the target is dead before they hear 'the fart.'
I would give them Metallica Megadeth slayer and anthrax oh and overkill and Black Sabbath so England can give the hun there knowing the so richly need and I would be listed albums Metallica kill em all and load and reload and justice for all and ride the lighting Megadeth symphony of destruction peace sells but whos buying and hanger 18 then slayer anything good anthrax to overkill everyone of the albums and along black Sabbath staring with the song iron man and then ending with paranoid and after that I would deftly play Exodus and annihilator and Warbringer and Kreator
imagining the pre landing bombing replaced with A10s and ship launched missiles is already friggin amazing, now thinking about the LAVs and hovercraft hitting the beaches like bruh what a dream
3/4 of those German pilots probably didn't even know they where in trouble when the first AMMRAMs started to hit them...the rest of 1/4 knew they were in trouble but by that time the battle was over...
No, modern aircraft have a higher stall speed than any WW2 fighter's top speed, iirc. Additionally current RADAR capabilities are might not detect WW2 Luftwaffe aircraft, due to not having enough metal content in their construction, so those missiles wouldn't work. IFF would also only be "hearing" friendly signals, so technically that works as intended. Heat-seeking missiles might work, but they might end up targeting your own aircraft, or even ground vehicles, of both sides, but I don't know exactly how their seeker programming works. The best air defense in this case, modern United States Armed Forces, versus WW2 German Whermacht, would be to destroy the airfields the Luftwaffe are operating from. Classic SOCOM mission, see Britain's SAS in North Africa earlier in the war. Or add those airfields to the target list for the cruise missiles, and initial air strikes. Failing that, the Phalanx CWIS can do the job at the beachhead, once deployed, and before they are, the M2 .50 machine gun was originally from WW2, so any vehicle mounting one of these, as a pintle-mount, like on a Humvee, or atop the turret of an Abrams, can contribute to the air defense of the beachhead. Disclamer: I'm an Australian civilian, with no first hand knowledge of American military weapons, and technology. The above has come from my own thought expirments, born from an interest in 20th century warfare, including WW2 and Vietnam.
@@deathdisclover999 Every year for the last 5 years i have seen a tribute fight with the F-22, A-10, P-51 Mustang, and an F-15. If what you said about stall speed is correct that could never happen but I've seen it. With thrust vectoring I would guess that a F-22 can go slower than the stall speed of any fixed wing WWII aircraft. Don't forget the Harrier, it can sit stationary in the air if it wants to.
@@deathdisclover999 While the metal content in a target is a factor in RADAR detection, it is but a minor one as modern day systems have a resolution strong enough to detect birds at long range, its however filtered out to prevent signal saturation. Remember, every single civilian passanger jet has a radar designed to detect individual water droplets that make up the clouds. IR-missiles however might see a drop in efficiency at least initially as prop planes have a sginificantly lower heat signature, but they would rarely if ever target friendlies by accident, as they are being fed the targets aspect directly before launch and ignore anything that doesnt have the same aspect. The workaround would be to simply fire the missiles are closer range where the high resolution seekers of the missiles have a much easier time to lock on to a planes signature. This was actually the big issue in Vietnam, early gen IR-missiles were tested and developed in a dry environment, but Vietnams humid climate made the otherwise sharp exhaust signature of a jet engine bloom out to a massive blob on the seeker head which lead to the missiles often missing their targets. While this was quickly fixed in later versions, the stigma never really went away in those days. On a final note, when engaging a significantly slower target, the Air Force has two options for engaing. One is the "boom and zoom" tactic where the engaging fighters take up speed, get into firing range, drop their missiles, fire a couple cannon salvos and leave the field without much maneuvering and then use their momentum to get out of the engagment zone, make a turn at a safe distance then come in again for another pass. Jousting, basically. The other is the "bait and switch" where one fighter actually slows down enough to make themselves an inviting target, becomming the bair, then when a tango gets behind them, the first fighter maneuvers in such a way to open the pursuer up for the second fighter that has been out of sight this whole time, effecitvely switching the roles between hunter and hunted. Your analysis on how the Luftwaffe would be crippled while still on the ground was spot on. Just to correct a minor technicallity, the ground based version of the Phalanx CIWS is called a C-RAM. ^^
@@DanielTaylorOCMD But not for long, hovering in place with jet engines consumes a fuckton of fuel in a rather short time, and the Harrier isnt known for having large fuel tanks.
Musketeer can reload three times a minute, whereas an experienced archer can loose around fourteen arrows in the same time. These weapons were together on the battlefield for around two hundred years.
@@cambs0181 Muskets and cannons have a greater range than bows and arrows, which is why the latter was phased out over the centuries as muskets and cannons became better and more advanced. A platoon of modern soldiers, fully armed, would defeat a company or even a battalion of soldiers from 400 years ago, thanks to the advancements of weaponry. Even generals and soldiers back then knew about the advantages of superior firepower and that new and more advanced weapons were being invented all of the time.
@@frostyvr9805 by all means tell me the traverse and elevation adjust rate of the 88, 20mm, wirbelwind etc.... and please, show your work with math to prove that the adjust rate couldnt keep up with a modern jet fighter because im sure you can find the rates of adjustment, but you then have to apply that to the flight dynamics of a modern jet..... you realize that when a plane is at 25000 feet even at mach 2, it will remain in the field of view of ground based aaa for quite some time, showing a very slow angular change from the pov of the aaa... now the argument could be made that they couldnt hit them because of altitude (either too high or too low) High because of shell limitations and low because of tracking speeds, but to try to make the blanket statement that german aaa couldnt hit a modern fighter just because of its speed is ridiculous.
The US military is so heavily armed these days they'd visit a massacre on their German counterparts. Even if they were equally armed their numbers would play a major factor. AI controlled drones is also a factor, a very frightening factor.
Imagine being a German pilot and seeing that flying thingy without any rotary fan or something like that and seeing your comrade fall one by one and you don't even know where it's coming from.
I love this video, like another version of "The final countdown" but with all the branches, in the ETO. Just imagine the panzers get released early that morning, only to encounter cav screens with Bradley AFVs, hummers with TOW missile and roving anti tank missile teams of dismounts, and THEN the Panthers and Tigers get popped by Abrams tanks with never seeing the allied vehicles...
AC-130 vs German trenches, beautiful. I was expecting to see AAVP-7 Am-Tracks coming up out of the water spraying the German bunkers with 40mm HEDP, then the Marines doing the same with their M-203s once they got closer. You also missed a moment by not helo assaulting Pont-du-Hoc while playing "Ride of the Valkaries". The F-22s should have had the RAF Lakenheath "LN" tail code instead of the "AK" tail code of Alaska based aircraft. But otherwise a good video. BTW as I originally watched "Saving Private Ryan", I thought "Wow these guys need M-79 40mm Grenade launchers, they would make their lives SO much easier".
Imagine, Wolfenstein MachineGames meets Battlefield: Portal, Modern Military vs. Nazi Military in terms of training, tactics, strategy, quantity and quality from Land, Sea and Air.
German Commander (GC) at Normandy observing the oncoming onslaught: GC: Tell Berlin the Americans are attacking at Normandy, and hurry! Radio Operator (RO): Berlin is asking in what strength! GC: Tell them to send us everything they have and send it now!! RO: Sir, they are sill asking about the numbers before they send reinforcements!! GC: Tell them the Americans are air dropping tanks behind our lines, they have these funny looking flying machines with big fans on top that are wiping out our artillery, and their rockets are coming in from nowhere and have already taken out our air defenses, OH, and dont forget to mention they landed Marines behind us WITHOUT EVEN TOUCHING THE BEACHES!! RO: Sir, Berlin is asking if you are drunk! GC: OK, since it looks like we are going to die anyway make sure this message goes strait to the Fuhrer (AH) himself. RO: Sir, the Fuhrer is on the line. GC: Is he? AH: Commander, what the hell is going on there?? GC: Listen you little $h!T!! WTF were you thinking by declaring war on the Americans? They are hitting us with $h!t we have never seen, and I mean we cant see it before it hits us and blows $h!t up. You Fu@#^&ing moron, you have killed us all. These Americans are using airplanes that are breaking the sound barrier and your vaunted Luftwaffe has been shredded without even seeing what is shooting them down. Their tanks just blew through 30 of our King Tigers, OH, did I say tanks? I meant to say ONE Fu#%ing TANK just destroyed 30 of your Tigers. No wonder Romel is not here, he saw this coming. I swear, if I make it out of this I will kill you myself. AH: I'm outta here. Good luck to you!!
There is a trilogy by John Birmingham called WW2.1. It was about a 2020 United Nations task force responding to a emergency in Indonesia gets transported back in time to 1942 ? and accidentally wreck the USN. 1 of the novels actually had the D-Day landings with a mix of uptime, contemporary and auxiliary weapons and forces. Uptime - was those who came back in time. Contemporary (Temp) were those who belong in that era and used contemporary historical units and weapons and tactics. Auxiliary - were those who joined the Uptimers as a auxiliary force but under Uptime 2020 laws and rules. It was a United Nations task forced centered around the USS Hilary Clinton - Fusion Stack powered aircraft carrier (nicknamed 'The Big Hill'). The uptimers ended up making historical (by their standards) weapons such as F-86, Chinooks and even a 1944 B-52 variant.
there is also a good time travel novel like in the film the last countdown where a plane carrier (uss carl vinson) from the year 1991 is lost back in january 1941 and then f14 tomcats fight against japanese zeros also the book by ML MAKI Fighting Her Father's War : The Fighting Tomcats you can read it
Honestly just regular C-130s alone would be an enormous game changer. Deliver a lot more troops a lot quicker. The total invasion troop numbers probably would be way higher.
This was very impressive! One thing though that didn’t sit right with me is the fact that the US aircraft were F-22s and not F-18 Hornets cause realistically they couldn’t launch from a aircraft carrier.
This seems somewhat realistic, although MBT's would be landed in support of infantry. Nor would barrage-balloons be needed with modern AA systems and modern fighters and strike-aircraft decimating the Luftwaffe and it's bases.
I love that concept, just imagine a German scientist off the coast on ship activating a Time Machine and sees a Virginia class Sub coming through the portal.
modern soldiers: lets do this! Nazis: wtf- *gun shot modern soldier: i wonder why we are fighting soldiers from 50 years ago ac-130 in the sky: that shot was right on target nazi soldier: … I surrender
I feel like it would be more semi realistic since Marines/Navy are leading that they use the F35 instead of 22, use the hovercraft to unload vehicles onto beach, and AH1Z Vipers instead of Apaches but none the less it’s interesting to think about how our modern military stacks up against past wars
Can you do the F-14 Tomcat vs Me 262? Inspired by the 1980 movie, The Final Countdown. P.S. I have a question, what if a Cold War era British Regiment (with plenty of troops, vehicles including tanks; like the Centurion (Mk.13) and Chieftain (Mk. 10), helicopters, plentiful ammunition including tank rounds) was sent back in time the Zulu War? And What will they do in this situation?
Bye bye Zulus. Spears vs helicopters. lol. oh man.... that image. The 262 was impressive for it's time. but no match for a Tomcat. Too bad the Horten 229 never got built.
you don't even need a regiment.. a battalion(or even just a company) together with some light vehicles(with heavy MG's like the .50 cal or LMG's on top) are more than enough.. at one point they were only up against 4000 zulu warrior.. tanks would be overkill..
Brave? Give the Germans the same era equipment. Then let's start the bravery. Imagine, Nazi Germany equipped with Leopard 2A6, Eurofighters, Eurocopters, PantzerHowitzers, the G36 instead of K98 etc. - I'd like to see Uncle Sam make that same run
It looks fantastic, but it would be really cool if you had post-Cold war weapons for BOTH sides. It would be really challenging. Just imagine trying to land a couple of divisions worth of armored vehicles face-to-face with entrenched Leopards and Pumas. But then, it would be a real mess.
Imagine being so distracted by the fact that you’re being annihilated from the fucking heavens that you don’t even realize you’re about to be overrun by dudes all with fully automatic weapons and literal body armor that can stop your bullets.
Idk if you’ve ever seen the movie where the Nimitz carrier and it’s full fleet of F14 Tomcats and A7 corsairs get put back in time to Pearl Harbor. It’s pretty interesting
Watch the movie "The Final Countdown", it's about the USS Nimitz, a 1980 aircraft carrier transported back to 1941 just before the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor. It's nothing compared to most CVs today but it's technically Modern vs WW2.
It certainly would have saved a lot of lives, including civilians lives…as it would have all been over much sooner. Seems to me that most of the operation could likely have been accomplished with modern allied drones, piloted remotely from England, while comfortably having a nice spot of tea. An interesting fantasy. -Enjoying these. Cheers.
Damn i thought this was gonna be like a modernized version of d-day where both sides have modern military tech from their countries but this is cool too
This video really shows how far we've come since then, so try to imagine what kind of weapons and strategies we might come up with in the next 77 years. Orbital bombardment and robots with laser weapons, maybe?
I can imagine like the allies storming the beaches and a portal just pops out in the middle of the battlefield both Germans and allies stopped and looked at the portal and then boom an M1A2 Abram just came out the portal slowly then all the soldiers looked at the tank questioning themselves which country and they saw an American Flag and the tank aimed on the German bunker and the German inside the bunker just said "...shiza..." Then boom the Tank just shot the bunker then they heated men shouting from a distance inside the portal and when they looked millions of American soldiers cam out of the portal then more portals popped out in the ocean the navy was shock seeing a modern aircraft carrier carrying F22 raptors and seeing flying F22 raptors then the ww2 soldiers screamed with glee with morale being boosted rapidly
F-22s? I think you mean F-35C Lightning IIs (which, along with versions of the F-18, are operated by the US Navy, yes). The F-22 Raptors, on the other hand, are primarily developed for and operated by the US Air Force.
The CIWS shooting down German rocket and 88mm artillery while the incoming alarm sounded was pretty awesome. Imagine being the German forward observer watching these advance air defenses literally shooting shells straight out of the air with pinpoint accuracy.
105mm but yeah...
That would be the first war America has won alone !
@@realWARPIG Except that Germans don't use a decimal point, but a decimal _comma._ As in "10 comma 5" for 10,5cm. Or "Zehn fünf".
Your correction to the correction has been corrected.
@@petemelanyevans9162 Well, they did win against Mexico.
@@petemelanyevans9162 Somewhere around 1863 they were in some kind of war. Who helped them win back then? Heard they had quite a strong enemy...
"The Americans are air dropping behind us!"
"Paratroopers?"
"TANKS"
Imagine this.
You're welcome!
UK 6th Airbourne Division on D-Day: Are we a joke to you?
(you probably will when you know what a Tetrarch looks like :-)
Say hello to my Bradley's
Look Hanz they’re killing all of us!
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Yes
My opinion the fight would have been much different...
1. German Fighters would not make it into the battlefield nor even see the F-22's or F-35's, they would just start dropping out of the sky.
2. Attack would happen at 3am and all bunkers, artillery, runways, infrastructure, bridges and armor would be taken out by either Cruise Missiles, JDAM's or GBU-28 Bunker Busters from High Altitude.
3. Naval Forces would never have been that close to shore especially the carriers and would not have been needed for Air support since RAF Fairford is 160 Miles from Omaha Beach. F-22's and F-35's would have flown Air cap over the battlefield while the B-1's, B-2's and B-52's would have decimated the entire shore batteries.
4. They would not have needed C-17's dropping in tanks since the US Army would have used their LCU-2000 landing craft that could hold (5) M-1 Abrams Tanks and would have easily landed on the beach after the main attack.
5. Once all Targets within 15 miles out have been neutralized since German WWII Artillery had a range of 11 miles. Support Elements would start being mobilized to the shore.
6. The main objective would not be Omaha at this point but Sword which would allow the capture Caen Airport quicker and to create a base to allow C-17's, V-22's, C-130's and CH-53's to bring in the Tier 3 Units from Great Britain where they would be staged. It also would allow other landing craft to arrive closer to the base since Caen has an inland port which is 6 miles from the Airport. This would allow troops to stage equipment and supplies much faster and easier.
7. There would be no clearing bunkers with troops, A-10's would not be providing close air support until the bunkers, AA Guns, Artillery were neutralized.
This fight would be very swift, quick and devastating since it would be done in darkness with Night Vision and Thermal Technologies which would leave the German's in complete disarray and their command unable to communicate. I believe their will to fight would have ceased within the first 30 min.
Great summation
This guy needs to be promoted to General Secretary
Next:
1. Find hitlers bunker
2.destroy it with b2s
3.break german moral with a lot of crazy stuff
4.defeat germany
5.defeat the soviets
6.kill stalin take over russia
7.profit
Nah, in regards to number 4 you gotta think like a general. Specifically a general that was in the airborne or something that just wants a chance to conduct a combat jump that he never got to do as a young officer all those years ago so now he's gonna do it because he can.
For anyone who is too oblivious to tell, this is a joke.
Ther would be no F-22 or F-35 at Omaha but F-18 since US send its carriers, and right now, they only carrier combat aircraft is F-18, and they would not send their modern air force to England Air Fields for 2 reasons.
1. It is still internal war between US and UK for dominance after WWII
2. No airfield in UK at the time is capable of operating raptors
Also, imagine General Patton being brought ashore and gifted his own personal Abrams.
"Sir, are you crying?"
Patton *it's just so beautiful!*
Imagine his reaction to the AH-64 Longbow Apache, F-15 Eagle, F-16 Fighting Falcon, B-52 Stratofortress, or B-1B Lancer.
Give him an M60A3
Nah, I agree with FIM-43 Redeye, just give him a Patton. I think that would be an even better gesture
Give him a sig xm5 6.8mm rifle or a sig 338 norma magnum.
But also imagine the confusion he gets when he sees the M2 Browning on that alien tank.
I don't think Normandy would even happen with modern technology. We'd just take the fight directly to the Germans
B2s would just hit Berlin and Hitlers eagle nest on day 1.
They'd be fucked no matter what, AFAIK the ceiling for the B2 And B52 Are higher than most AA Could fire.
Even if we did have to storm the coast, JDAMs, Bunker-Busters and AC-130s would make quick work of aa, bunkers and any strong point or supply's left. Helicopters would offload almost an entire battalion of men (at least), skipping the bloodbath on the beach, leaving plenty of time to offload more men, tanks and supplies in a leisurely and orderly manner. Aachen wouldn't have been nearly so troublesome either. Berlin may have liberated before the Soviets could even cross the German/Polish border.
@@sharkybate7115 ifs and buts though. If the US has this shit what would the EU have ... the same. The Soviets would be pouring across a nuked Germany long before the US got on the sand.
You would have the help of the RN though ... all three ships. Canada would be prosecuting the war using hate speech laws. Half the UK would be helping whilst the smaller half would be moaning about it and, not so, secretly helping Jerry.
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handle Based on this vid, my assessment is assuming only the US is modern. If all Allies are modern, it would be akin to Dessert Storm, where the whole thing is done in a month and a week.
Imagine chilling in a Bunker on Point Du Hoc and you see a bunch of LCACs loaded with M1 Abrams approaching the beach
I don't think that's a correct beach to field vehicles, place is surrounded by cliffs.
and there would be no bunkers left as any fortication would be blasted by a cruise missile or a bunker buster(if they still use it)/smart bombs..
@@userjlj there'd be plenty of bunkers left. The SAMs would have denied the air to any planes trying to get withing 200 miles of the beach. No amount of HARMs could make a dent in something built that scale.
The idea that a western air force can just waltz in over an airspace defended by modern AA systems is jingoism and self delusion. SAM systems are a whole lot cheaper to build than planes are, and they're a lot more effective at anti-air ops too.
You'll notice that in the last 50 years, only in the Arab-Israeli wars of 67 and 73 did modern aircraft face modern SAMs. There a reason why we don't do this anymore. And a reason why the Russian S400 and US Patriot is so feared. SEAD against such is IMMENSELY dangerous even with high tech weapons such as a F35.
If Normandy had the equivalent S400 systems stationed there, no aircraft would have ever gotten withing 100 miles or more of the coast. They'd be stuck in Britain.
WW2 tactics with modern weapons doesn't ever work, if your opponent also has modern weaponry. Only when they don't does it work out OK.
I would get depressed
The bunkers would be taken out by that time by satellite guided cruise missiles.
The technology disparity make this feel a bit like watching War of the Worlds or something of the like- awesome
This was my reaction, basically this was total destruction.
The final countdown, D-Day Europe edition.
German kid: grandpa why we lost in ww2
Ww2 vet granpa:its was the f*cking aliens
If German won WW2 the american don't even know what moon is!
@@kkjkkj2584 most of Trump voters do not know what the moon is.
Semper Fi
@@simeon4837 lmaooo
@@simeon4837 lol
Imagine being that German pilot watching your friends just explode for no reason and then the one shot you get does NOTHING.
Keep in mind too that this is only a 60-70 year difference in technology.
60-70 years is a huge diffirent for the 20th-21th century dude
So much overkill. Anything from the F4 onwards would have been enough - no point in using a stealth anything when no one else has anything approaching modern radar.
@@TheFaldoran nope the F4 is still be able to be shot down by WW2 AA gun (Vietnam war is an example)
@@builuuquanghuy4144 WW2 era AAA fed information by far more modern and capable radar systems. WW2 era radar couldn't track F4 Phantoms.
@@builuuquanghuy4144 Good point - I was referring more to the poor FW190s being shot down more than anything - AA is a different story and would be able to hit anything the in the vid if it was on a strafing run
A-10 getting shot at: "Hey! That tickles! Please continue."
Low key, it could probably tank most all munitions of the era, at least the ones realistically able to hit it.
@@pauljackson171 just like it’s predecessor the p-47 thunderbolt a plane so strong it has flown back to the runway with cylinders blown out and in one incendent a whole wing missing.
"Takes an 88mm straight on the dome"
And I took that personally
Imaging being a German commander at Normandy Beach in the middle of the night and out of nowhere, most of your bunkers explode and the only thing you herd was a sonic crackle before the explosions simultaneously went off. You decide to fire your 88s and other artillery batteries toward the beaches only to see almost all of the shells explode in the sky before they even hit the ground. Even more so, imagine being a Luftwaffe pilot on your way to Normandy and at around 20 miles or so before you even reach your target, almost all of the planes around you mysteriously explode at the same time and you didn't even see or hear anything in the air before hand.
Lol if I was the commander.i would think it's aliens
girls: let's role play on game
Boys: let's recreate d-day but the U.S. has modern military powers
Now do the sim in reverse, give the Germans modern equipment and let 10940's US military try to land the beach.
@TOH YONG JUN Moe lmao
Its still roleplay, but in a different way
@@michaelgamble2848 10940 US Military wins they are from the far future
@@secondhanzo4938 They could just walk into machine gun fire by 10940 and come out just fine cause by that time armour technology would make our current tech almost useless 😂
The f35 compared to the ww2 fighters was almost unreal. You would have to think you’re fighting aliens.
Even cold war fighters can obliterated those BF109s
Do believe that was an F22 bro, honest mistake though.
Still me 262s would at least have a chance
@@cascadeflims7261 Dude the Vietnamese and North Korea airforce with their 1950s MiG 21 would shit on Nazi Jets. Our modern Jets would wipe the floor with them.
Kuroyae good point
How would D Day go in this scenario?
Short answer:
A. German losses = everything
B. American losses = an American soilder might spill their coffee.
More like papercut from filling out the paperwork.
@@TankratRustDust another US soldier sneezes because of some dust.
Realistically the only American losses would be either an unfortunate friendly fire incident, or just some freak accident like getting hit by a jeep or falling off the side of a ship.
C: In the meantime Russian ground forces enter Berlin 😀😀
WOW
Destroying 1944 German defenses using modern US military hardware? One Carrier fully loaded will not only handle Normandy but Berlin and Tokyo as well
I LOVE the confused back and forth look of the German soldier when he saw the cruise missile impact
Uh Hans what was that.
I thought they didn’t have V-1
When you finished the entire game and just wanted to go back and test your latest weapons with some first level bots
New Game+
@@silverhawkflash nah its just sandbox mode
Yet another episode of 'The Gate"
Season 3 looks lit af, ngl
Yea s3 looking lit
They took season 3 to the next level
@@logout_101 at least the enemy has slightly better weapons than of the previous seasons
@@mohammadsyazwigeoffrey7325 lol
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". -- Arthur C. Clarke.
Just imagine, you’re a 1944 German soldier, then all of a sudden you see an f35 drop a JDAM on you, or you see a surface to air missile destroy the base next to you.
You wouldn't see the f35.
For starters every command would had been identified and tomahawked out of existence before there was a crossing of the channel.
Now do D-Day Allies WW2 tech, Germans modern tech.
It would be like the intro from Wolfenstein: The New Order 😂
They would still use the MG42
@@bardocomunista just re chambered and redesignated because the blueprints are lost
@@bardocomunista MG3 would be used instead lol
What about STG 44 Assault Rifle?
We definitely would’ve won the war by Christmas if we had this tech back in the day 😂😂
…and Berlin would’ve fallen a lot sooner. Then Stalin would have a heck of a choice- stop the Red army where they were at & no split East/West Europe (how far west was Russia in June ‘44?) , or risk it all attacking the Allied army just to avenge Operation Barbarossa
Bro we can't even win wars with current tech lol...think last war we won was back in 91 and that was only 90min I believe
War on large scale and individual battles do not play out like a game my friend .. it’s much different. Afghanistan is a great example of how simply having the technological advantage won’t win you a conflict
@@Existentialcrisis_1488 except Afghan culture and European culture s are way different.
Sooner, the Germans would sue for peace when entire panzer divisions disappear and the Richstag(sp) gets hit with a MOAB
Omg could you just imagine. You need the theme from “The Final Countdown” playing in the background
Splash the zero I repeat splash the zero
Its the final countdown... *guitar noises*
The movie and the music like holy fuck this a coincidence? I fucking think not
Whilst this shows the effect of modern tech against the Normandy defences, the _actual_ battle would have been much quicker.
A modern Battleship would have sat about a mile out of Dover and just _DEVASTATED_ the beach defences. Each bunker would have had a cruise missile posted through the gun port.
Instead of British and US paratroopers being dropped in prior to the invasion, a joint task force of SAS and SEALs would have HALO’d in and just played merry hell with the defenders and reserve units.
British Paras, RM Commandos, 1st Marine Recon and US Rangers wouldn’t have fast roped on the beach, they would have fast roped _directly on to the bunker objectives_
The Luftwaffe wouldn’t have even made it into the air, all of the aircraft would have been bombed on the airfields the night before.
All of this would have been done in the dead of night. The attack would have commenced at midnight, Allied troops would be pushing into Paris by dawn.
The total liberation of France would have taken a week (give or take a day)
Total German Surrender within 2 months.
Less after a few MOABs and then telling them that we have bigger.
@@alaneskew2664 yeah, Park an Ohio outside of London, and ready a single trident.
Small correction: Modern navies don't use battleships. Maybe you mean warships? Many people misuse the word battleships.
So, one Surface Action Group.
This would include a submarine, which fires TLAMs.
TLAMs would deal with the bunkers fairly easily, and with a little bit of help from F-35 spotting, SEAD pretty good too.
After that, its a matter of eliminating targets at will.
Meanwhile, engagement of enemy aircraft that do manage to scramble will be done with AMRAAM or Sidewinder.
Deployment of NATO coalition to follow after SBS, SAS, Delta, and SEAL forecon operations finish.
Land invasion is really only limited by supply lines, armored divisions effortlessly roll up the Wehrmacht, only urban zones proving a problem.
In that then, Apache gunships engage in CAS and eliminate with laser guided 70mm rockets.
The video was only nine minutes
The Germans: Why do we hear boss music?
Americans: THEY HAVE OIL
@@Danishboi6766 no. more likely the Americans would be going straight for Holland and the free drugs so they could take them stateside and sell them. you have to think like politicians. Where's the $? and of course if el presidente Trump was in charge he would just sell out to Adolf for a few prime location hotels.
Brrrrrrrt what does this mean?
@@MPlain lol
@Rickrolmao deez nuts
I think the Germans would be like:
"Hey, those planes have similiar engines to our Me-262s!"
"That's impossible, the allies would take time to figure out our tech!"
"Nevermind that! Weird plane with propeler on top is coming straight at us and its about to shoot its gun!"
Helicopters existed in ww2.
The Gloster Meteor beat the Me-262 into service
@@TheLastSterling1304 there was only 1 ever prototype Helicopter made during WW2. It was a German one and only ever made 1 flight I can't remember where it left from in Germany and where it went to but that was its first and last flight before it was retired
@@TheLastSterling1304 also its hightly unlikely the average German soldier would know of the top secret helicopter design
@@wheresstrelok2187 sikorsky R-4, sikorsky H-5, Fl 282, Fa 223 as some examples not including gyrochopters.
Imagine a US Armored division in the attack on the low countries when the German armor was mostly panzer 1 and 2,s with a handful of panzer 3's, early-model 4's with the short 75mm, and Czech TNH and panzer 35t's with 37mm guns?
shooting fish in a barrel
IFVs could take care of everything up to the less armored versions of the Pz.3 and Pz.4 with their autocannons alone
@@Two-EyedShockwave yes but also remember that most IFVs are only rated up to 14.7 HMG fire not a 37 mm cannon so those light tanks might be able to pen them
an Abrams on the other hand is rated to stop some thing like a 125 mm APFSDS shell yeah nothing from ww2 is going to come close to penetrating that
@@gwydionrusso3206 OK, OK, hear me out. A tank driver gets some bigger balls and has a concussion and decides to challenge a battleship... those rounds would do something!
@@Cylius. he might be able to penetrate it but it wouldn't do any Significant damage
I just realized how sweet BF2042 would be with a parachute drop from a plane like that old game MAG.
I know, I know just jump from a helicopter. A plane would mix things up though.
Mag 2.0 is a dream…
You sweet summer child.
This would really frustrate Hilter.
I think Hitler would be the first to get obliterated by a B2 fleet
On the positive side, we would learn the German version of "fuck my life" straight from the Fuhrer's mouth.
@@petergray7576 idk why but this made me laugh XD
DAS WAR EIN BEFEHL! Der Angriff Steiners war ein Befehl!
Nah, this would downright scare the shit out of him
If I were a german soldier I’d throw my controller away and walk back to germany.
I’d leave to join america
Imagine this: You're a tired German soldier who's recently received news that there will be an invasion on a beach your going to be stationed on. Soon after arrival you see defenses blown up immediately, then you see an aircraft approaching your location, but this is no ordinary piston fighter, it's engine sound sends shivers down your spine, almost as if you know what will happen soon isn't good. Suddenly, you hear an incredibly loud "BRRRRRRT", as you look up the aircraft is long gone so you look behind you to check if any of your fellow soldiers knew what just happened. And to your total surprise, they're all dead. Soon you'll come to realize the following invasion will be hell.
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Imagine being a tiger tank and then seeing an a10 and its heading towards you:
@@armageddon-tank I don't think they would think much of anything - they would be dead before they knew it.
Hans: stop farting fritz
Fritz: I'm not farting
Hans: then what it is?
A-10 warthog diving straight into their bunker:😎
Yeah, see... that wouldn't happen. The 30mm rounds are supersonic. They would arrive before the sound of the gun. So suddenly the world around them just explodes in a hail of metal and depleted uranium as some rounds explode, and others just punch through everything. Pretty standard for the GAU-8 Avenger to run 'combat mix' as they call it. Then the sound of the gun gets to them.
Why observers here two sets of sounds are thanks to the fire rate of the A-10 is from the impact of the munitions and some detonating, and then the sound catches up. Both sound about the same, since they have the same frequency. But the target is dead before they hear 'the fart.'
@@tearstoneactual9773 maybe it was brrrts to another bunker
Fritz: INCOMING
Imagine being a German machine gunner stationed at Omaha Beach only to see 50 futuristic destroyers and tanks being deployed
German MG-42 gunner: "welp, fired ten shots on this A10, better reload!"
FPS GAMER BE LIKE:
"Begin PsyOps." *Ride of the Valkyries starts playing.*
Except Wagner was a German Composer! SMDH
Kickstart my heart
Blast some Five Finger Death Punch or Indestructible by Disturbed
@@Winch67 Oh, that just makes it better.
Imagine the look on Hitler’s face when he hears his precious Wagner blasting from the American helicopters.
I would give them Metallica Megadeth slayer and anthrax oh and overkill and Black Sabbath so England can give the hun there knowing the so richly need and I would be listed albums Metallica kill em all and load and reload and justice for all and ride the lighting Megadeth symphony of destruction peace sells but whos buying and hanger 18 then slayer anything good anthrax to overkill everyone of the albums and along black Sabbath staring with the song iron man and then ending with paranoid and after that I would deftly play Exodus and annihilator and Warbringer and Kreator
the germans:
time fighting and shooting 20%
time trying to comprehend what the hell is happening 80%
You forgot about the paratrooper from the 101st and 82nd division behind enemy lines
Modern American paratroopers couldve done this on their own lol 😂
@@justjackmarstonwithinternet idk there is always a lot of chaos on night jump even if is a morden paratroopers
imagining the pre landing bombing replaced with A10s and ship launched missiles is already friggin amazing, now thinking about the LAVs and hovercraft hitting the beaches like bruh what a dream
I laughed when I seen the F-22’s coming in.
German Fighter Pilots : Yea we’re in trouble here boys
F22 pilot : 😎
3/4 of those German pilots probably didn't even know they where in trouble when the first AMMRAMs started to hit them...the rest of 1/4 knew they were in trouble but by that time the battle was over...
It's like watching "Independence Day!"
“And over there you see our vast defense network we have set up to- and it’s gone”
Operation Market Garden could have benefitted from Helicopter gunship and close air support.
As well as Armored Hovercraft as opposed to Higgins boats.
...with Bradleys and Bushmasters providing some air-deployable armour protection to the infantry.
Market garden was a total English fiasco. If they hadn't stopped for tea they might have actually made it. Just poor leadership top to bottom.
Time traveller: *stands up
The timeline:
"Man down, we got a man down"
Dude you're awesome you make videos that are actually in my head
Pretty interesting concept, but could our fighters have slowed enough to engage the Germans without overshooting them?
No, modern aircraft have a higher stall speed than any WW2 fighter's top speed, iirc. Additionally current RADAR capabilities are might not detect WW2 Luftwaffe aircraft, due to not having enough metal content in their construction, so those missiles wouldn't work. IFF would also only be "hearing" friendly signals, so technically that works as intended. Heat-seeking missiles might work, but they might end up targeting your own aircraft, or even ground vehicles, of both sides, but I don't know exactly how their seeker programming works.
The best air defense in this case, modern United States Armed Forces, versus WW2 German Whermacht, would be to destroy the airfields the Luftwaffe are operating from. Classic SOCOM mission, see Britain's SAS in North Africa earlier in the war. Or add those airfields to the target list for the cruise missiles, and initial air strikes. Failing that, the Phalanx CWIS can do the job at the beachhead, once deployed, and before they are, the M2 .50 machine gun was originally from WW2, so any vehicle mounting one of these, as a pintle-mount, like on a Humvee, or atop the turret of an Abrams, can contribute to the air defense of the beachhead.
Disclamer: I'm an Australian civilian, with no first hand knowledge of American military weapons, and technology. The above has come from my own thought expirments, born from an interest in 20th century warfare, including WW2 and Vietnam.
@@deathdisclover999 Every year for the last 5 years i have seen a tribute fight with the F-22, A-10, P-51 Mustang, and an F-15. If what you said about stall speed is correct that could never happen but I've seen it. With thrust vectoring I would guess that a F-22 can go slower than the stall speed of any fixed wing WWII aircraft. Don't forget the Harrier, it can sit stationary in the air if it wants to.
@@deathdisclover999 While the metal content in a target is a factor in RADAR detection, it is but a minor one as modern day systems have a resolution strong enough to detect birds at long range, its however filtered out to prevent signal saturation. Remember, every single civilian passanger jet has a radar designed to detect individual water droplets that make up the clouds. IR-missiles however might see a drop in efficiency at least initially as prop planes have a sginificantly lower heat signature, but they would rarely if ever target friendlies by accident, as they are being fed the targets aspect directly before launch and ignore anything that doesnt have the same aspect. The workaround would be to simply fire the missiles are closer range where the high resolution seekers of the missiles have a much easier time to lock on to a planes signature.
This was actually the big issue in Vietnam, early gen IR-missiles were tested and developed in a dry environment, but Vietnams humid climate made the otherwise sharp exhaust signature of a jet engine bloom out to a massive blob on the seeker head which lead to the missiles often missing their targets. While this was quickly fixed in later versions, the stigma never really went away in those days.
On a final note, when engaging a significantly slower target, the Air Force has two options for engaing. One is the "boom and zoom" tactic where the engaging fighters take up speed, get into firing range, drop their missiles, fire a couple cannon salvos and leave the field without much maneuvering and then use their momentum to get out of the engagment zone, make a turn at a safe distance then come in again for another pass. Jousting, basically. The other is the "bait and switch" where one fighter actually slows down enough to make themselves an inviting target, becomming the bair, then when a tango gets behind them, the first fighter maneuvers in such a way to open the pursuer up for the second fighter that has been out of sight this whole time, effecitvely switching the roles between hunter and hunted.
Your analysis on how the Luftwaffe would be crippled while still on the ground was spot on. Just to correct a minor technicallity, the ground based version of the Phalanx CIWS is called a C-RAM. ^^
@@DanielTaylorOCMD But not for long, hovering in place with jet engines consumes a fuckton of fuel in a rather short time, and the Harrier isnt known for having large fuel tanks.
@@DanielTaylorOCMD fir only 39 seconds the harrier is not q helicopter
Ah yes I remember the days of landing on Normandy with chinooks.
Those were marine's sea stallions, 30 troops per load iirc.
Interesting idea, I think it would be neat to have a military from 1987 vs a military of 2021.
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This is the equivalent of people armed with bows and arrows and swords, fighting people armed with muskets and cannons. It's no contest.
Musketeer can reload three times a minute, whereas an experienced archer can loose around fourteen arrows in the same time. These weapons were together on the battlefield for around two hundred years.
@@cambs0181 Muskets and cannons have a greater range than bows and arrows, which is why the latter was phased out over the centuries as muskets and cannons became better and more advanced. A platoon of modern soldiers, fully armed, would defeat a company or even a battalion of soldiers from 400 years ago, thanks to the advancements of weaponry. Even generals and soldiers back then knew about the advantages of superior firepower and that new and more advanced weapons were being invented all of the time.
Have you seen an anime called "gate: so the self-defence force fought there"?
the german aa would not even work against the US planes because they simply fly to fast..
The fast flying jets? Yes. The Prop planes? NO
Be quite and enjoy the vedio
how do you know the maximum tracking speed of ww2 german anti aircraft weapons, did you use them?
@@Graymenn you know we have documentation of that stuff right
@@frostyvr9805 by all means tell me the traverse and elevation adjust rate of the 88, 20mm, wirbelwind etc.... and please, show your work with math to prove that the adjust rate couldnt keep up with a modern jet fighter because im sure you can find the rates of adjustment, but you then have to apply that to the flight dynamics of a modern jet.....
you realize that when a plane is at 25000 feet even at mach 2, it will remain in the field of view of ground based aaa for quite some time, showing a very slow angular change from the pov of the aaa...
now the argument could be made that they couldnt hit them because of altitude (either too high or too low) High because of shell limitations and low because of tracking speeds, but to try to make the blanket statement that german aaa couldnt hit a modern fighter just because of its speed is ridiculous.
The US military is so heavily armed these days they'd visit a massacre on their German counterparts. Even if they were equally armed their numbers would play a major factor. AI controlled drones is also a factor, a very frightening factor.
Imagine being a German pilot and seeing that flying thingy without any rotary fan or something like that and seeing your comrade fall one by one and you don't even know where it's coming from.
The German Army was probably like what the hell is this an alien invasion lol 😂
Harry Turtledove wrote a book that went something like that.
I love this video, like another version of "The final countdown" but with all the branches, in the ETO. Just imagine the panzers get released early that morning, only to encounter cav screens with Bradley AFVs, hummers with TOW missile and roving anti tank missile teams of dismounts, and THEN the Panthers and Tigers get popped by Abrams tanks with never seeing the allied vehicles...
You guys did really well in executing this professionally and beautifully. Well done 👍🏻
AC-130 vs German trenches, beautiful. I was expecting to see AAVP-7 Am-Tracks coming up out of the water spraying the German bunkers with 40mm HEDP, then the Marines doing the same with their M-203s once they got closer. You also missed a moment by not helo assaulting Pont-du-Hoc while playing "Ride of the Valkaries". The F-22s should have had the RAF Lakenheath "LN" tail code instead of the "AK" tail code of Alaska based aircraft. But otherwise a good video.
BTW as I originally watched "Saving Private Ryan", I thought "Wow these guys need M-79 40mm Grenade launchers, they would make their lives SO much easier".
Do a hunt for the Bismark, where the royal navy has an Astute class submarine
1 week max before the Bismarck is ⚰️
Both bismarck and Prinz Euguen would be probably one or two shot by torpedoes even whitout seeing them coming.
Imagine, Wolfenstein MachineGames meets Battlefield: Portal, Modern Military vs. Nazi Military in terms of training, tactics, strategy, quantity and quality from Land, Sea and Air.
BF2042: We have new portal mode.
Arma 3: ?
German Commander (GC) at Normandy observing the oncoming onslaught:
GC: Tell Berlin the Americans are attacking at Normandy, and hurry!
Radio Operator (RO): Berlin is asking in what strength!
GC: Tell them to send us everything they have and send it now!!
RO: Sir, they are sill asking about the numbers before they send reinforcements!!
GC: Tell them the Americans are air dropping tanks behind our lines, they have these funny looking flying machines with big fans on top that are wiping out our artillery, and their rockets are coming in from nowhere and have already taken out our air defenses, OH, and dont forget to mention they landed Marines behind us WITHOUT EVEN TOUCHING THE BEACHES!!
RO: Sir, Berlin is asking if you are drunk!
GC: OK, since it looks like we are going to die anyway make sure this message goes strait to the Fuhrer (AH) himself.
RO: Sir, the Fuhrer is on the line.
GC: Is he?
AH: Commander, what the hell is going on there??
GC: Listen you little $h!T!! WTF were you thinking by declaring war on the Americans? They are hitting us with $h!t we have never seen, and I mean we cant see it before it hits us and blows $h!t up. You Fu@#^&ing moron, you have killed us all. These Americans are using airplanes that are breaking the sound barrier and your vaunted Luftwaffe has been shredded without even seeing what is shooting them down. Their tanks just blew through 30 of our King Tigers, OH, did I say tanks? I meant to say ONE Fu#%ing TANK just destroyed 30 of your Tigers. No wonder Romel is not here, he saw this coming. I swear, if I make it out of this I will kill you myself.
AH: I'm outta here. Good luck to you!!
best comment ever
@@oceanologistftomatlantida6626 can we make this comment have more replies? And likes
GC: OI! YOU CAN'T JUST LEAVE US HERE- BAH, FORGET IT! RETREAT!
There is a trilogy by John Birmingham called WW2.1. It was about a 2020 United Nations task force responding to a emergency in Indonesia gets transported back in time to 1942 ? and accidentally wreck the USN. 1 of the novels actually had the D-Day landings with a mix of uptime, contemporary and auxiliary weapons and forces.
Uptime - was those who came back in time.
Contemporary (Temp) were those who belong in that era and used contemporary historical units and weapons and tactics.
Auxiliary - were those who joined the Uptimers as a auxiliary force but under Uptime 2020 laws and rules.
It was a United Nations task forced centered around the USS Hilary Clinton - Fusion Stack powered aircraft carrier (nicknamed 'The Big Hill').
The uptimers ended up making historical (by their standards) weapons such as F-86, Chinooks and even a 1944 B-52 variant.
there is also a good time travel novel like in the film the last countdown where a plane carrier (uss carl vinson) from the year 1991 is lost back in january 1941 and then f14 tomcats fight against japanese zeros also the book by ML MAKI Fighting Her Father's War : The Fighting Tomcats you can read it
Ah shit they got flying goldfish in the sky ;-;
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@Tristan Irvine Balolong at the end.
Honestly just regular C-130s alone would be an enormous game changer. Deliver a lot more troops a lot quicker. The total invasion troop numbers probably would be way higher.
incredible, this give a idea of how will be the second D-day against the elf-nazis in the novel of "AMERICA IN ANOTHER WORLD".
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Hello fellow reader
@@lt.x-02s-wyvern25 hi 😁.
This was very impressive! One thing though that didn’t sit right with me is the fact that the US aircraft were F-22s and not F-18 Hornets cause realistically they couldn’t launch from a aircraft carrier.
We would probably spam paratroopers and then deploy transport helicopters for regular infantry.
This seems somewhat realistic, although MBT's would be landed in support of infantry. Nor would barrage-balloons be needed with modern AA systems and modern fighters and strike-aircraft decimating the Luftwaffe and it's bases.
Not to mention the carrier group having sm6 missiles offshore.
This would be a fun scenario to play
This is basically the equivalent to fighting late-game aliens with tier 1 weapons in XCOM
German scientist: That time machine backfired big time.
I love that concept, just imagine a German scientist off the coast on ship activating a Time Machine and sees a Virginia class Sub coming through the portal.
The new season of Man in the High castle looks epic
I've always dreamt about something like this. So, I have to say....A MASSIVE THANK YOU
That was awesome!!! Coolest thing I've seen in a long time!!
modern soldiers: lets do this!
Nazis: wtf-
*gun shot
modern soldier: i wonder why we are fighting soldiers from 50 years ago
ac-130 in the sky: that shot was right on target
nazi soldier: … I surrender
suddenly in reddit post
200 bc? This was only 80 years ago lol
This is the worst comment ive ever seen
Failed to locate the funny.
Imagine how utterly terrifying a fighter jet would be in the propeller era, you see a black triangle roaring around you and then it's over.
Epic!! Thank you!
I feel like it would be more semi realistic since Marines/Navy are leading that they use the F35 instead of 22, use the hovercraft to unload vehicles onto beach, and AH1Z Vipers instead of Apaches but none the less it’s interesting to think about how our modern military stacks up against past wars
I’m assuming the F-22s took off from air fields in the UK. Then maybe the carrier’s F35s and F18s are striking targets deep inland.
Can you do the F-14 Tomcat vs Me 262? Inspired by the 1980 movie, The Final Countdown.
P.S. I have a question, what if a Cold War era British Regiment (with plenty of troops, vehicles including tanks; like the Centurion (Mk.13) and Chieftain (Mk. 10), helicopters, plentiful ammunition including tank rounds) was sent back in time the Zulu War? And What will they do in this situation?
"to the Zulu War" I mean...
Personally, I hate making typing mistakes.
With the Zulu war. I think the Brits will definitely win
Bye bye Zulus. Spears vs helicopters. lol. oh man.... that image.
The 262 was impressive for it's time. but no match for a Tomcat.
Too bad the Horten 229 never got built.
you don't even need a regiment.. a battalion(or even just a company) together with some light vehicles(with heavy MG's like the .50 cal or LMG's on top) are more than enough.. at one point they were only up against 4000 zulu warrior.. tanks would be overkill..
@@userjlj a couple of mortar round and some HEAT rounds would be enough
“Hey Gunter, see that osprey there”
“Ja”
And the rest is history
"Good gunter, now pray for your life"
6:11 R2D2
🤣🤣🤣
Props to these brave Americans and others for going back in time to fight the Germans!
Brave? Give the Germans the same era equipment. Then let's start the bravery. Imagine, Nazi Germany equipped with Leopard 2A6, Eurofighters, Eurocopters, PantzerHowitzers, the G36 instead of K98 etc. - I'd like to see Uncle Sam make that same run
@@Doug.Dimmadome it would go the same just a little less one side
I could watch these types of war simulations all day.♥️👍
but girls think this is borin n nerdy tho
Could you imagine A-10 Warthogs taking on the infamous Panzers of Hilters armored divisions? Never would know what hit them...
It looks fantastic, but it would be really cool if you had post-Cold war weapons for BOTH sides. It would be really challenging. Just imagine trying to land a couple of divisions worth of armored vehicles face-to-face with entrenched Leopards and Pumas.
But then, it would be a real mess.
Imagine being so distracted by the fact that you’re being annihilated from the fucking heavens that you don’t even realize you’re about to be overrun by dudes all with fully automatic weapons and literal body armor that can stop your bullets.
This would make a great movie.
Idk if you’ve ever seen the movie where the Nimitz carrier and it’s full fleet of F14 Tomcats and A7 corsairs get put back in time to Pearl Harbor. It’s pretty interesting
Or tv series
Gold. A scenario I’ve always played in my mind.
Watch the movie "The Final Countdown", it's about the USS Nimitz, a 1980 aircraft carrier transported back to 1941 just before the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor.
It's nothing compared to most CVs today but it's technically Modern vs WW2.
While i liked the movienit was such a tease lol. I wanted a sequel where they went to dday or something
Man, the Final Countdown remake looks great
It certainly would have saved a lot of lives, including civilians lives…as it would have all been over much sooner. Seems to me that most of the operation could likely have been accomplished with modern allied drones, piloted remotely from England, while comfortably having a nice spot of tea. An interesting fantasy. -Enjoying these. Cheers.
That Soldier shooting at few A-10 with a bolt-action rifle was adorable!
Awesome!
Damn i thought this was gonna be like a modernized version of d-day where both sides have modern military tech from their countries but this is cool too
Lmao the Americans wouldn't have all this modern tech without German scientists
This video really shows how far we've come since then, so try to imagine what kind of weapons and strategies we might come up with in the next 77 years. Orbital bombardment and robots with laser weapons, maybe?
I can imagine like the allies storming the beaches and a portal just pops out in the middle of the battlefield both Germans and allies stopped and looked at the portal and then boom an M1A2 Abram just came out the portal slowly then all the soldiers looked at the tank questioning themselves which country and they saw an American Flag and the tank aimed on the German bunker and the German inside the bunker just said "...shiza..." Then boom the Tank just shot the bunker then they heated men shouting from a distance inside the portal and when they looked millions of American soldiers cam out of the portal then more portals popped out in the ocean the navy was shock seeing a modern aircraft carrier carrying F22 raptors and seeing flying F22 raptors then the ww2 soldiers screamed with glee with morale being boosted rapidly
F-22's aren't carrier aircraft.....
@@painhertz proof that I legitimately dunno about modern Weaponry
WW2 Soldiers see their futare selves
F-22s? I think you mean F-35C Lightning IIs (which, along with versions of the F-18, are operated by the US Navy, yes). The F-22 Raptors, on the other hand, are primarily developed for and operated by the US Air Force.
@@MDDeGrande1994 back read lad...
My grandpa still tells me stories about when the a10 saved in in Normandy 1944
Wolfenstein, but the Allies develop better technology instead of Germany
The shore bombardment and troop landing was the fight, the rest is just for show.