This CK3 DLC sucks

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  • i'd suck your wee for 191,90€, would paradox do the same?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 476

  • @Dumdragoon
    @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +36

    If you follow this you'll get all your DLC money back, trust:
    instagram.com/dumdragoons

    • @finnb2318
      @finnb2318 4 місяці тому +4

      I like your voice, the first time I‘ve heard it.
      Are you actually Hungarian, or is that some other accent?

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +9

      Im half hungarian half austrian, but i wouldnt say i have much of an accent at all​ @@finnb2318

    • @JhonnyWaltz
      @JhonnyWaltz 3 місяці тому +1

      damn bruh I literally lost an arm for the dlc.
      I need my arm back
      literally using only 5 fingers to type rn.
      This took me 10 minutes to type.

  • @Kibbelingreal
    @Kibbelingreal 4 місяці тому +1085

    you know a dlc is bad when within 2 days a mod releases to completely remove its mechanics 💀

    • @decantabriaball938
      @decantabriaball938 4 місяці тому +89

      Do you happen to know where I can find this mod ? Lmao

    • @mercurii3848
      @mercurii3848 4 місяці тому +152

      @@decantabriaball938 Named 'No More Plagues' on the workshop

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +130

      Bruh

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +88

      ​@@mercurii3848 thats insane

    • @vandarkholme8548
      @vandarkholme8548 4 місяці тому +125

      Is there also a mod that returns 20 bucks to your bank account??

  • @starhalv2427
    @starhalv2427 4 місяці тому +257

    Fortunately, there is a mod on the workshop that makes it so:
    - Plague resistance actually stops plagues from spreading in your lands
    - The chance of plagues firing is the same regardless of whether you own the dlc or not (apparently you get more plagues without dlc for some reason)
    - High development increases chances of plagues spawning so siberia doesn't get as many diseases as the mediterranean.
    My hopes for this game now lie entirely upon the landless characters dlc. If it turns out to just be some shitty event chain instead of a sandbox where you travel around europe raising a loyal host until you're able to press claim on some land, I'm gonna lose it.
    Edit: the mod mentioned above is called "Reasonable Epidemics"

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +65

      Same, unlanded gameplay will make or break it

    • @seiban8455
      @seiban8455 4 місяці тому +28

      Wait they added a plague resistance mechanic and it doesn't slow the spread of plagues? What the fuck does it do in game?

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +20

      @@seiban8455 only protects your court apparently

    • @starhalv2427
      @starhalv2427 4 місяці тому +8

      @@seiban8455
      Decreases chance of courtiers being infected

    • @ziggytheassassin5835
      @ziggytheassassin5835 4 місяці тому +17

      You just know there's going to 20 events max that repeat on loop.

  • @mercurii3848
    @mercurii3848 4 місяці тому +541

    The most hilarious thing about plagues, is the fact that the 'Plague resistance' buildings don't actually affect how far the plague spreads or how often they fire. All it does is lower the chances of courtiers getting infected. What a joke.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +210

      Bruh what, i didnt even know that, my ass was building hospices everywhere

    • @GwainSagaFanChannel
      @GwainSagaFanChannel 4 місяці тому +164

      ​@@Dumdragoon "My lord the entire peasant and burgher population died but the good news is the royal family is still alive."

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok 4 місяці тому +9

      [You can figure out what I said here from context]

    • @mercurii3848
      @mercurii3848 4 місяці тому +26

      @@randomguy-tg7ok All my information comes from the mod author behind the 'Reasonable Epidemics' mod named 'Cariocecus'. Additionally, I never said anything about development, only that it doesn't actually affect plague spread and plague activation.

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok 4 місяці тому +4

      @@mercurii3848 You're right. I can't read.

  • @Jakub-Schizo-Sillyist
    @Jakub-Schizo-Sillyist 4 місяці тому +375

    Paradox really made a chat gpt story dlc

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +46

      The future is now

    • @celwenileran2135
      @celwenileran2135 4 місяці тому +21

      Hilariously, there is an actual ChatGPT mod out there that is thousand times more creative than Legends of the Dead. Because unlike Legends of the dead it adds INTERACTION.

    • @aryaa7069
      @aryaa7069 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@celwenileran2135What's it called?

    • @gr1mmd
      @gr1mmd 3 місяці тому

      ​@@celwenileran2135what's the name?

    • @Chadius_Thundercock
      @Chadius_Thundercock 3 місяці тому +4

      @@celwenileran2135you can’t say that and not say the mods name

  • @Kibbelingreal
    @Kibbelingreal 4 місяці тому +443

    i do love playing the byzantines with 4 plagues a year on the lowest plague gamerule...
    its so historically accurate to have 74 out of 82 of your family members die to plague in your playthrough 🥰

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +69

      😊😊😊 ty pdx much love hugs and anthrax!!

    • @ap6480
      @ap6480 4 місяці тому +21

      You might not be able to play with the plague prevention mechanics as intended and get mad because people die from it(surprise) but there's no way you're saying that having a lot of people dying from diseases during the middle ages is historically inaccurate, you might alswell say that rulers waging wars for personal claims is inaccurate at that point

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +14

      Of course its historically accurate but it feels cheep regardless :/

    • @dylanwillmon5672
      @dylanwillmon5672 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Dumdragoon its first off alt history and having people dying so often on the lowest plague rule is NOT fun which is the point of a game 🤓🖕

    • @slowjoe91
      @slowjoe91 4 місяці тому +3

      don’t forget 0 legitimacy

  • @lyra5366
    @lyra5366 4 місяці тому +131

    I think my biggest issue with *most* paradox DLCs is that, generally, the mechanics never end up interacting with one another. Their whole philosophy trades mechanical interplay for what's basically a financial safety cushion. It sucks. The Royal Court is nice, but interacts with nothing. The legitimacy is cool, but it's just a number slider in the end. Diseases are fine, but they do nothing on their own.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +22

      Thats a good way to put it, nothing relates to anything, it feels that way too

    • @lyra5366
      @lyra5366 4 місяці тому +10

      @@Dumdragoon it's honestly a shame, but they're limited by their business model. EU4 has the same problem **cough** colonies **cough** trade companies **cough**

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      Oh yeah

  • @Cream127
    @Cream127 4 місяці тому +120

    Most hilarious things is how most of plagues always start always in nearby regions. Never far away but always just few provinces away just so you can "experience it".

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +19

      I feel experienced

    • @user-vv6df8uk9s
      @user-vv6df8uk9s 4 місяці тому +18

      Wow so it's not only me who feels that plagues always target the player! Almost every game I played since the update the first ever plague spawned close to my location...

    • @averagestraightwhitemale6776
      @averagestraightwhitemale6776 4 місяці тому +1

      Bullshit lmao

  • @MildPsychedelic
    @MildPsychedelic 4 місяці тому +96

    I just hate how frequent the plagues are. Rather than having a plague every 5 to 10 years decimate some of your realms, it would have made more sense to have it occur far less frequently, but when it hit, it hits hard- the Black Death being the 'final boss' of this feature.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +17

      You cant undev 1 dev rome

    • @Freedmoon44
      @Freedmoon44 4 місяці тому +13

      well Historically it happened that frequently, but on average it hit an area every 15-20 years instead, but maaaan that rough

    • @MildPsychedelic
      @MildPsychedelic 4 місяці тому +16

      @@Freedmoon44 Given how CK3 prioritizes roleplay over historical accuracy I'm fine with ahistorical plagues if it means less of them 😂

    • @thesquaremonger
      @thesquaremonger 2 місяці тому

      Yeah if you play wide its annoying as fuck to hear about King Johnny's cock itch abd deal with a pop up for a nothing burger

  • @TheGreatMasos
    @TheGreatMasos 4 місяці тому +428

    CK2 players keep winning

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +113

      They just cant stop winning

    • @frithiofhellgren8013
      @frithiofhellgren8013 4 місяці тому +41

      And I cant stop raiding those sweet sweet rheineland germussies

    • @fiendish9474
      @fiendish9474 3 місяці тому +3

      We win specifically because the game isn't updated anymore so pdx can no longer fuck things up further

  • @notlucas6859
    @notlucas6859 4 місяці тому +92

    hey guys leviathan reference

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +25

      Dont remind me

    • @Freedmoon44
      @Freedmoon44 4 місяці тому +8

      @@Dumdragoon too late isnt it

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +2

      Ptsd

    • @protkrombere6828
      @protkrombere6828 4 місяці тому

      true, I genuinely thought paradox learned something, which makes me a fool (at least I did not buy it this time)

    • @inspiredcamel4388
      @inspiredcamel4388 3 місяці тому

      Leviathan wasn't the problem the patch it came with was, this dlc is just shit by itself

  • @legitplayin6977
    @legitplayin6977 4 місяці тому +88

    Or you could always do the reasonable thing and pirate it

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +34

      🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫

    • @azpont7275
      @azpont7275 4 місяці тому +43

      I only ever use pirateing to get groceries or cargoships near the cost of Somalia, never ever Paradox dlc.

    • @jameshoxworth6447
      @jameshoxworth6447 4 місяці тому +5

      @@azpont7275keep up that grindset👍

    • @gregrenox9644
      @gregrenox9644 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@@azpont7275the grinds shall not stop king

    • @valeriolibratti9643
      @valeriolibratti9643 3 місяці тому

      I'm not against the idea and I could do that in 10 min but I still can't be bothered, this is pure useless slop

  • @itzbeans6575
    @itzbeans6575 4 місяці тому +31

    I hate when you have a big empire and you get notifications for literally every small plague on the other side of your empire

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      I wish you could disable notifications that have not outcome

  • @andrefasching1332
    @andrefasching1332 4 місяці тому +56

    i enjoyed the plagues with the early start date as it allows me to pass down my whole empire to one heir instead of splitting it up between 13 kids.
    thank you plague for stabilizing my empire

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +10

      Hahaha thanks for killing all my children!

    • @lephinor2458
      @lephinor2458 3 місяці тому +1

      some of you may die, but thats a risk I am willing to take.

  • @VoxinVivo
    @VoxinVivo 4 місяці тому +38

    Its crazy how they did this DLC in CK2 but good

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +13

      Man reapers due is so good im gonna bust

  • @plebisMaximus
    @plebisMaximus 4 місяці тому +32

    Don't forget "Legendary buildings" are an advertised feature of this expansion. I've yet to see a single review, either on UA-cam or the steam user reviews even mention this "feature" because it's such a non-entity. When I saw it on the store page, I was really hoping for some CK2 or Imperator style customisable monuments to my rule, or at least some EU4 style upgradeable buildings spread around the map, but nope. It's just a tiny province modifier you may get when you finish certain legends. This was such a shit expansion, the very definition of underwhelming.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +12

      Brother i forgot this shit even existed until u mentioned it again hahaha

    • @brucedilferson9822
      @brucedilferson9822 4 місяці тому +4

      And you can only build them in some random ass county right? Not your capital of choice

    • @aephos.overwatch
      @aephos.overwatch 4 місяці тому +4

      I don't get it. I'd pay even more for the DLC if they decided to produce good content packs like they used to. This low-effort content is losing them money big time.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      @@aephos.overwatch agreed big time

  • @notyourbusiness8475
    @notyourbusiness8475 4 місяці тому +42

    Playing in the mediterrenean is actually just impossible now. You just get plague plague plague plague.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +2

      You dont love bouncing diseases?

    • @legateelizabeth
      @legateelizabeth 4 місяці тому +12

      It’s apparently not unusual for Sicily to end up with less development than places like Scotland or Mali because of just how often it gets plagued.

    • @KleinesStein
      @KleinesStein 4 місяці тому +5

      Which is pretty historically accurate for the Mediterranean. You are connected by trade to far reaching regions, you’re bound to gain plagues every so often.

    • @jasperjones6389
      @jasperjones6389 2 місяці тому +1

      @@KleinesStein Still without a trade system 💀

    • @KleinesStein
      @KleinesStein 2 місяці тому

      @@jasperjones6389 did they not add the trade ports from Ck2???

  • @Designer-Speech7143
    @Designer-Speech7143 4 місяці тому +61

    The Dragoon cooked! It is about dinner time as well.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +15

      Sorry for the wait, u must be starving

  • @Testimony_Of_JTF
    @Testimony_Of_JTF 4 місяці тому +19

    The weird thing is that they already have a pretty good plague system in CK2. There you get a quite realistic depiction where plagues are somewhat frequent but mostly non lethal (in some cases irrelevant) as long as you have a good physician, wich isn't difficult to get if you're a king.
    I always get surprised how Paradox will manage to make things suck despite having already done that well. You just need to *copy* that thing but somehow manage to make it worse.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +6

      But oh no! They dont want to just rEmAkE a game. It needs to be different! Yeah different doesnt always mean better.

  • @pedrotbird5426
    @pedrotbird5426 4 місяці тому +24

    I was so dissapointed when all the legends were just chatgpt bullshit, I was hyped to larp as like a great man writing fanfics about his deeds

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +8

      Same, i just do it myself in notepad

    • @cirokistermann7834
      @cirokistermann7834 4 місяці тому +4

      @@Dumdragoon Literaly, a Self Insert fiction about reality.

    • @Atajew
      @Atajew 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Dumdragoon
      + "What's your source regarding this legend?"
      - "My source is that I made it the fuck up"

  • @Dino_Stan
    @Dino_Stan 4 місяці тому +33

    None of the ck3 dlcs have been good imo SAD! We aint getting another holy fury =(

    • @MausOfTheHouse
      @MausOfTheHouse 4 місяці тому +12

      I can never take anything you say at face value anymore because how monotone and sarcastic your voice is :I

    • @mercurii3848
      @mercurii3848 4 місяці тому +8

      They all just feel soulless, it's sad.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +21

      Ck2 supremacy

    • @Dino_Stan
      @Dino_Stan 4 місяці тому +7

      @@MausOfTheHouse my motives unknown

    • @Dino_Stan
      @Dino_Stan 4 місяці тому +6

      @@Dumdragoon real i still play it

  • @samolson1807
    @samolson1807 4 місяці тому +19

    I think Dragoon didn't like the DLC too much, guys. Might need to rewatch to be sure

  • @vandarkholme8548
    @vandarkholme8548 4 місяці тому +15

    At this point they should start paying ME for playing this crap once in a while for almost half a decade, with every major update I go "there's no way this game still sucks, they added so much stuff"

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +3

      If you keep piling shit onto more shit you still have a massive pile of shit

  • @mattasoEu
    @mattasoEu 4 місяці тому +27

    If you disappear within the next few days we will know which Swedish company is responsible

  • @fiendish9474
    @fiendish9474 3 місяці тому +6

    I dont care how terrible medieval hygiene standards were, I refuse to believe the European population suffered and survived an average of 7 major plagues every single year

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  3 місяці тому +1

      -100000000 pop per second

  • @MausOfTheHouse
    @MausOfTheHouse 4 місяці тому +18

    I'm very excited for the upcoming DLC with the 1178 start and new Byzantine mechanics

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +15

      Yeah i try to stay optimistic too, tours and tournaments was a banger so its not like every dlcs a miss

    • @MausOfTheHouse
      @MausOfTheHouse 4 місяці тому +5

      @@Dumdragoon For me the Northern Lords was (were?) the best DLC by far. Mostly because of the OST.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +6

      Norther lords was such a good start and then they fell off :/

    • @MausOfTheHouse
      @MausOfTheHouse 4 місяці тому

      @@Dumdragoon Indeed

  • @UserStillLoading
    @UserStillLoading 4 місяці тому +19

    it wouldnt suck if you did a mp megacampaign

  • @vrabb9030
    @vrabb9030 4 місяці тому +9

    at this point i think it's safe to assume the code for roads to power will be entirely written by chat gpt

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      This is so sad alexa play human by adolf h.

  • @Noobmaster-of3xk
    @Noobmaster-of3xk 4 місяці тому +6

    As a player it is stupidliy easy to make Plauges irrelevant by getting 100 Plauge resistance while places like Constantinople will have lower dev than a average Mongol province

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +3

      Plague resistance doesnt protect your province tho? Just your court

    • @Noobmaster-of3xk
      @Noobmaster-of3xk 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Dumdragoon When I have 100 plauge resistance the Baronyes never go over 30% infected so I think it does more than just make the court semi Immune to the plauge
      Also the Plague mechanic is werid and complete dogshit

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +2

      @@Noobmaster-of3xk yeppers agreed

  • @accurategamer7085
    @accurategamer7085 4 місяці тому +5

    Ck3 player: plz change the war mechanics
    Paradox: D I S E A S E S

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      U GET A PLAGUE AND
      U GET A PLAGUW

  • @Da__goat
    @Da__goat 4 місяці тому +4

    I followed this next chapter of DLC and honestly the only thing I'm moderately excited about is the upcoming changes to the Eastern Roman Empire because it was never a feudal government in the traditional sense at all. It had a standing professional army, it didn't have a levy system at all but rather provinces and governors with stationed legions based in these territories and a professional retinue for the emperor. The emperor was never a cuck to his vassals because they didn't have vassals in the feudal sense at all. When the emperor went on campaign they would summon legions from the provinces that were local, and bring their own personal retinue as well. If they needed more, they could request reinforcements from other provinces. But these provincial governors would occasionally get too powerful and engage in revolts, and this is how the empire operated internally.
    I genuinely never had any interest at all in getting a DLC around plagues at all when in the base game I can just change the settings to enable super-plagues makes this DLC entirely irrelevant. Its just so disappointing to see a game company that once cared produce some of the absolute worst IPs in a space that it itself pioneered and created; CK3, Vic 3, Imperator, etc. I just don't get it. They could have literally given us CK2 but with more polish and people would have loved it. They could have just given us Vic 2 with some updated mechanics and population systems but they didn't. We don't talk about Imperator, it's the reason why I don't buy paradox games at all unless they're on deep discount. Their PR is terrible, their marketing is terrible and even their most recent releases or things they help to publish, are terrible->whatever that Civ 4x strategy game was didn't go so well, Cities skylines 2, garbage, and the list goes on and on. Then you have the content creators that absolutely shill for Paradox because they are on the payroll and it just leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +2

      Firstly Thanks for taking the time to write out whats on your mind in this length. While I cant say much to the byzantine features because of my lack of history knowledge in that regard I always hope every DLC to be somewhat on par with Tours and Tournaments featurewise. As extensive and thought as could be, so you can really feel that heart went into making content. You hit the nail on the head in regards to paradox. They have this massive monopoly on the genre, yet they actively choose to massproduce garbage like millenianand citysky2 i just dont get. The same goes for Vic3 and Ck3 though I have to say I do enjoy CK3 when its more modded than some of my skyrim runs lmao.
      Its just sad altogether and thats why ive just chosen to actively support any inkling of competition thats sprouts up anywhere like Gilded Destiny for example. In hopes that they get their shit together. Or in hopes that someday someone else will appreciate more what they have and do it better than pdx ever could. I'm not and never will be a damn pdx shill. I'll always say whats on my mind, and i'll not sugarcoat words because I believe thats whats best for the already disillusioned playerbase the grand strategy scene has at the moment. We'll see what happens going forward, EU5 is on the rise, though I have not much hopes for it. The way we're going pdx will just become the next CA.

  • @PSYCHOpaty4
    @PSYCHOpaty4 4 місяці тому +4

    Ah yes, Paradox reinvented the wheel again. And yet again they made it rectangular. I honestly don't understand why they can't grab those mechanics from CK2 and just polish them

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  3 місяці тому

      Rectangular wheels would be dope compared to this

  • @Jefrings
    @Jefrings 3 місяці тому +4

    European history be like:
    Battle of schwashburg:
    3k HRE Austro-Bohemian soldiers vs 2163 French mercs
    Results :
    - 30 dead in combat
    - 1.2 million dead by diseases
    Partial HRE decisive phyrric victory!

  • @Nilhulus
    @Nilhulus 4 місяці тому +7

    CK2 is the sequel to CK3

  • @nnnn11112
    @nnnn11112 4 місяці тому +6

    CK2's expansion bundle is almost the exact same the cost of CK3's.
    CK2 last got paid DLC in 2018, that's 6 years of DLC. CK3 has been out for four already and people are still complaining it doesn't have enough content.
    Compare LotD and The Reaper's Due. TRD is $10, added a whole new symptom and plague system, Hospitals, Prosperity and the free Patch includes more.
    CK3's version is twice the amount for, nearly the same content? Less actually including the free patch?
    CK3 still doesn't feel like a 4 year old Paradox game despite costing as much as CK2.

  • @arbikiuszelemelek3347
    @arbikiuszelemelek3347 4 місяці тому +4

    I am not too salty since I acquired the dlc for such a price you could call it plunder. But I did a persian region game, and before I even united the de jure empire I was getting 2 plagues a year SOMEWHERE in my realm, it didnt even hurt me since I build hospices in my personal domain but the constant nothing popups killed me

    • @arbikiuszelemelek3347
      @arbikiuszelemelek3347 4 місяці тому +1

      I will have to try some cool overhaul mods (excited for Anbennar in particular) or obtain CK2 as a treat, since I only tried it with no dlc vanilla once and it was not very fun.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      Good for you man

    • @nexor7809
      @nexor7809 4 місяці тому +1

      i acquired the whole game and dlcs for the price of 0. So thats plunder.

  • @balticpagan1495
    @balticpagan1495 4 місяці тому +5

    it still baffles me how after all these years ck2 is still better game than ck3
    honestly makes me fear how badly eu5 will end up compared to eu4 XD

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Yup my thoughts exactly

    • @balticpagan1495
      @balticpagan1495 4 місяці тому

      @Iamnotracistlmao the thing is, ck3 was relised not right after BASE ck2, but after it already had many updates, CK3 team just decided to cut all that content out so they could re sell it as DLCs for profit.
      They easaly could have relised ck3 whit all of ck2 and its DLC contents and later improve/rework it as time went on, but they decided not to cause its more profitable

    • @wotanvonedelsburg1610
      @wotanvonedelsburg1610 3 місяці тому

      Don't worry, Johan is going to fix EU5... there are no Paradox people with coloured hair working on it like they did on Victoria 3.

  • @glassman1130
    @glassman1130 4 місяці тому +11

    Usual goal in CK2:Having fun without casually getting bored.
    Usual goal in CK3:Trying to save your dynasty by marrying every living member of your family.

  • @TheStickCollector
    @TheStickCollector 4 місяці тому +12

    I barely have money to throw away

  • @amethystgamer852
    @amethystgamer852 3 місяці тому +3

    1:25 I beg to fucking differ since I can't seem to keep my legitimacy anywhere near my expected level. Seriously, how am I meant to keep up with 1-2 disease outbreaks spawning every year in my realm, meaning I lose **at least** 100-200 legitimacy a year just from them appearing?

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  3 місяці тому

      Yeah thats what i meant, it goes up and down without any logic behind it

  • @snomcultist189
    @snomcultist189 4 місяці тому +6

    Gigachad broke person vs beta paradox slave:

  • @toxicwaste159
    @toxicwaste159 4 місяці тому +2

    It honestly feels like the random death events they implemented a while back but on a larger scale and without the off-switch
    What an awesome, immersive and interactive system.

  • @seanm241
    @seanm241 4 місяці тому +3

    I've spent more money on map game dlc than child support, when will it be enough Paradox?

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      Paradox is that one child from the ex wife that hates you

  • @AaAaAaA-ni6es
    @AaAaAaA-ni6es 4 місяці тому +6

    Haven’t bought a DLC since the disaster of Leviathan. Feeling more and more happy about that decision.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +2

      Man leviathan. Weve come so far.

    • @mrkripo6227
      @mrkripo6227 4 місяці тому +2

      Join the dark side of russian paradox community, embrace Jolly Roger.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      @@mrkripo6227 the pirate bay awaits

    • @mrkripo6227
      @mrkripo6227 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Dumdragoon We dont even need pirate bay this days, we litteraly download dlcs which one guy buys and then put them and few extra files in folders and tada...

  • @greyfells2829
    @greyfells2829 3 місяці тому +2

    Legitimacy is completely broken and illogical. Lose a battle? You're not the rightful king. Win 10 battles against a more powerful kingdom? I sleep.

  • @ziggytheassassin5835
    @ziggytheassassin5835 4 місяці тому +2

    Ya, i got excited that it wasn't just a flavour pack for a region, but looking back, maybe a flavour pack for a region would have been nicer.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Yup, mongolia flavor pack plox

  • @klodpraisor
    @klodpraisor 4 місяці тому +2

    Leviathan: finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  3 місяці тому +1

      They cant keep getting away with it

  • @Atajew
    @Atajew 2 місяці тому +2

    This DLC gives me yet another valid reason to continue my campaign as the Mongol horde and not care about the spread of plague in my provinces in Eastern Europe

  • @pyroparagon8945
    @pyroparagon8945 4 місяці тому +3

    Paradox try not to make ass dlc challenge (impossible)

  • @dazeen9591
    @dazeen9591 4 місяці тому +3

    Who could have thought an annoying anti-player random chance mechanic would be hated!

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Its anti-everyone, the ai has become redundant with this

    • @dazeen9591
      @dazeen9591 4 місяці тому

      @@Dumdragoon ai suffering losses doesn't really matter they cheat anyway

  • @DenisPereira
    @DenisPereira 4 місяці тому +2

    20 bucks? 20 bucks in sale can buy 2-3 AA games in my country, this DLC is the price of a full on AA game

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      I can buy so much booze and chocolate for that

  • @Megaalith
    @Megaalith 3 місяці тому +1

    The plague mechanic is in vanilla now too...

  • @kingofnothing1871
    @kingofnothing1871 3 місяці тому +2

    0:33 Holy BASED

  • @claudiolentini5067
    @claudiolentini5067 Місяць тому +1

    Legitimacy actually works decently well for a less-martial focused vassal game
    In my actual campaign with a Custom Norse character in 867, where I'm trying to complete the Consolidation of Normandy (A RICE struggle) struggle in a pacifistic/assimilation way, the legitimacy has been going up and down quite frequently, given that my preferred heir had to fight a lot of revolts and lost a war with her liege

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  Місяць тому

      It just doesnt feel fleshed out, theres no events solely based around legitimacy

  • @AHersheyHere
    @AHersheyHere 3 місяці тому +1

    If they had included trade lanes with the plague DLC it would be so much better. You would have two sides of the coin, want gold? Set up international trade lanes. However those rats from abroad are carrying passengers...

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  3 місяці тому

      was that a thing in ck2? i dont recall

  • @technicallynothinginterest5134
    @technicallynothinginterest5134 4 місяці тому +3

    Honestly I’m so glad I got the $60 dlc pack that gives me all the upcoming dlc for a bit. No way I would spend $20 on this shit

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      Season pass enjoyer 😇😇😇

  • @Predator20357
    @Predator20357 4 місяці тому +3

    Doing probably my first and only full playthrough of Vanilla CK3 and I have to admit. While it’s been very fun (mostly by stealing another family’s Annal and later on using it as a bludgeoning object against an assassin) Plagues are just my least favorite part.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, CK3 a good game, vanilla gets repetitive after a while but oh god the mods are nutty

    • @Predator20357
      @Predator20357 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Dumdragoon Definitely will check out the mods when I finish the playthrough

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      You should, its a massive gamechanger

  • @diewott1337
    @diewott1337 4 місяці тому +1

    Looks like they fixed it with 1.12.5, but I haven't tested yet.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  3 місяці тому

      Nope all the same garbage

  • @ORO323
    @ORO323 4 місяці тому +1

    Years later and I’m still waiting for a nomads and republics dlc. They want to annoy us with plagues first.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      playing as mongols feels so empty

  • @SatsukiYumizuka
    @SatsukiYumizuka 4 місяці тому +2

    Ck2>>>ck3 in 4 years

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      Yep thats our future ck2 is eternal

  • @melvinbrotherofthejoker436
    @melvinbrotherofthejoker436 4 місяці тому +2

    Only DLC that’ll make me come back to CK3 is the play I landed characters one that they teased

  • @Frendlu
    @Frendlu 3 місяці тому +3

    And you have people excited for EU V. Yeap, watching the lastest releases, I dont have any hopes that the game gonna be good. At least on release. 😅

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  3 місяці тому

      as per usual

    • @claudiolentini5067
      @claudiolentini5067 Місяць тому

      Well, tbh EU IV at launch was pretty garbage, even after the patches. We had to wait Art of War to make it non tedious and playable

  • @Parigi5
    @Parigi5 Місяць тому +1

    You can now just turn plagues off in the game rule settings with achivments still available. thats what i did, i do wish that the black death event still spawned tho cause it makes the diesese resitance stat meaningless

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  Місяць тому

      Yup blesse feature black plague still spawns its a seperate game rule afaik

    • @HDTomo
      @HDTomo Місяць тому

      @@Dumdragoonyeah as it should tbh
      The mod also doesn’t disable achievements now, good decision from PDX

  • @kosatk120
    @kosatk120 3 місяці тому +2

    I am surprised people realized this just now but most of ck3 dlc's are of thet kind that makes game worse when you buy them. I look at you 3d courts dlc.

  • @tribeguy556
    @tribeguy556 3 місяці тому +2

    it happens every year instead of just being sprinkled here and there because first ur like, ´´wow thats pretty cool!´´ until u realize that if ur capital gets infected ur whole family tree ends and u lose the game u just spent two hours on big middle finger to paradox.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  3 місяці тому

      first time was great, the others after that well yeah

  • @youtubeconnoisseur3215
    @youtubeconnoisseur3215 4 місяці тому +1

    I have had quite a bit of fun playing just vanilla what are the best mods I have played a bit of got total conversion but I assume your not talking about total conversion

    • @youtubeconnoisseur3215
      @youtubeconnoisseur3215 4 місяці тому +1

      But I totally agree the only dlc I have is royal court and I think I got it with a deal or something I hope I did not buy it in a fuge state cause I actively ignore it

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  3 місяці тому

      Everything that adds flavor rly, ill publish my set soon

  • @Its_gooseneck
    @Its_gooseneck 4 місяці тому +1

    i’ve been subbed for years. i’m so happy to see this channel be what it is. keeping doing what you love my man and remember to go to mass this week you sweaty gamer

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      I always go to mass :-) thanks for the heartfelt comment ill try and keep going

    • @Its_gooseneck
      @Its_gooseneck 4 місяці тому

      @@Dumdragoon YOOOOOOO BASED AND CATHOLIC PILLED DRAGOON??????!!!!!!!!!!! always praying for you my man!

  • @kret9459
    @kret9459 4 місяці тому +4

    do you like popup? then you need buy that :(

  • @j.ackermann9110
    @j.ackermann9110 4 місяці тому +1

    The worst part is as always that nothing from a dlc or free update ever interacts with the systems already present in the game. It's just put on top without much consideration. There are tons of mods that do better. Legitimacy is either way to easy to have if you play towards it or you'll always be illegitimate when you ignore it. The AI seems to struggle with it as well. Plagues can be either ignored or they completly ruin your playthrough. It seems there was no balancing done. And Legends are just plain boring.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      Brother the ai is suffering hard in this one. And yeah nothing corelates to anything.

  • @user-cr2xj7uu8x
    @user-cr2xj7uu8x 4 місяці тому +2

    This. The legends aren't fun at all, and plagues are extremely repetitive and boring. Paradox should work on lowering notification spam, overhauling warfare, etc. I play on a lower version to avoid this dlc

  • @jankozie9130
    @jankozie9130 3 місяці тому +2

    it does kill off characters which is good for low end pcs

  • @neontitanag
    @neontitanag 4 місяці тому +1

    It's insane to me how people will say this DLC and update is "fun". I can't tell if it's just a massive meme, but this video helps me feel grounded.

  • @RefRed_King
    @RefRed_King 4 місяці тому +2

    was ai from stronghold? lol

  • @bgthereformer
    @bgthereformer 4 місяці тому +3

    Give us ur recommended mod list mr goon

  • @GwainSagaFanChannel
    @GwainSagaFanChannel 4 місяці тому +1

    Maybe I do not know historical plagues should be an option so it adds fun historical flavour and it doesnt look like plagues wiped out the entire population of the Old World.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Yeah i hope the mod community starts cooking

  • @really9473
    @really9473 4 місяці тому +1

    I have 1,4k hours on CK3, and I haven't touched the game since the new update came out; my pc is so shit that this update genuinely makes the game unplayable for me lmfao

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Like because of lagg?

    • @really9473
      @really9473 4 місяці тому

      @@Dumdragoon yeah, like it unironically takes 5+ minutes to get past 1 month whenever i reach ~900
      idk wtf they did to the game but i literally can't play it anymore because it would take years

  • @claudiogivone4435
    @claudiogivone4435 4 місяці тому +1

    The Number of plagues is so high that now when I play I don't even notice I click on 20000 plague screens, my body just does it automatically from how many there are

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Same tbh, im on autopilot when i see the rat in the top left corner

  • @strategywolfgaming
    @strategywolfgaming 4 місяці тому +2

    I was pretty hyped before the DLC arrived, but I can absolutely understand your criticism, however I hope some of the mechanics will be just fleshed out over time and upcoming patches and might add to a better game experience in the end. Still:
    - Legends are super arbitrary indeed, this is my biggest dissapointment since I hoped for something like the bloodlines but way more influenced by the actual actions of the character. It turned out to be super boring and absolutely generic - if they manage to connect it to the travelling system or something, the creation of saints or anything like that it might get fixed over time, but as it is it is bad, I agree.
    - Plagues do feel arbitrary, annoying and generic, however it adds plagues and thereby a relevant factor imho. Recently I've been playing mostly with the "Fallen Eagle" mod and it might be also due to that, but I feel like mortality has increased over all which I find really important - before that most of my characters turned old and most children survived childhood - just not realistic and immersive + made the game even easier since you could have disinherited heirs or so to avoid parition - now having sufficient heir options feals important and disinheriting/sending to monasteries displays a risk since the main heir might just die.
    The higher mortality couldve been added through other ways as well - nevertheless the effect of the plagues makes the game more interesting to me despite the annoying core mechanic ;)
    - legimitacy I agree too, important introduction that is way too passive and not anything you really pay attention too. Might get better in the future as well.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  3 місяці тому

      Yeah all in all it compliments my mods quite well :-)

  • @superpacocaalado7215
    @superpacocaalado7215 4 місяці тому +1

    This is why I buy the game at a discount and just use Cream to get the DLCs.

  • @chaoticflorius
    @chaoticflorius 4 місяці тому +2

    Yo! We should totally play this DLC :) Sounds like a fun idea

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      :-) i cant hear you from sweden

  • @johan4290
    @johan4290 4 місяці тому +1

    I knew this was gonna happen. It’s exactly what they did with the previous game.

  • @afridge8608
    @afridge8608 4 місяці тому +1

    Ive played a couple of campaigns with the dlc and even made several large empires but the rats dont really bother me and the legends are agood way for me to larp since i make my own lore. I guess its easier when to enjoy this stuff and not care when you are a dirty pirate

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      I make my own lore too, u write summaries in notepad or?

    • @afridge8608
      @afridge8608 4 місяці тому

      @Dumdragoon if its a megacampaign then yeah notepad if not i feel like my memory is enough

  • @MouldMadeMind
    @MouldMadeMind 3 місяці тому +1

    Counterpoint: your profile pic is an anime girl infront of the wrong flag for a dead empire

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  3 місяці тому

      and yet here you are watching my video, curious

  • @samuel9607
    @samuel9607 2 місяці тому +1

    Time to move back to ck2 the dev team of ck3 has no idea what they’re doing

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  2 місяці тому +1

      Seems so unfortunately, tho modded ck3 slaps

  • @Buecherwurm_8
    @Buecherwurm_8 4 місяці тому +1

    The dev diary about the next update on may 8th was interesting, maybe they fix it.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      Lets hope the yapping has some merit

  • @celwenileran2135
    @celwenileran2135 4 місяці тому +1

    Legitimacy is a terrible mechanic too. It actively makes your game easier. The moment you max it out, aspects of the game become easier. Factions form less, people like you more.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Yup, some people struggle but as it is ck3 is plain boring how easy it gets

  • @mrkripo6227
    @mrkripo6227 4 місяці тому +1

    It would have been better at least if players had option to name plagues which pop out in their countries. It wont felt so generic at least and also would made game even more funny...

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Thats actually a banger idea haha

  • @Headshot1st
    @Headshot1st 4 місяці тому +1

    It’s a great idea but the fact that it happens so god damn much and you lose face like it’s your fault isn’t exactly the best concept

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Bro is responsible for every cold in the kingdom

    • @Headshot1st
      @Headshot1st 4 місяці тому

      @@Dumdragoon you’ve simple failed your people as a deity to prevent these sort of calamities, like the mongols

  • @žika_mafija
    @žika_mafija 4 місяці тому +1

    PTSD from that stronghold crusader narrator 😢

  • @emilioperez6888
    @emilioperez6888 3 місяці тому +1

    Oh, so that's why whenever a young heir becomes the next king, even after paying money to my dukes and counts, they all hate me.
    BECAUSE THE ONES I PAYED OFF DIED IN THE PLAGUE, LETTING THEIR HEIRS BE MY VASSALS THAT HATE ME.

  • @filiprohn1643
    @filiprohn1643 4 місяці тому +2

    Me and my 200+ ck3 mod libraly taking 50% of my hard drive just to make this one game playable. I still have no idea how I find it more enjoyable to ck2.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Mind sharing your list? Getting 200 mods to work sounds awesome, ive got about 80

    • @filiprohn1643
      @filiprohn1643 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Dumdragoon Well, my biggest set is also only 80, but I have multiple, so all mods list is longer, but my sets are also usually around 60-80😅
      May have exaggeratet a little, but point is only reifonrced, since modders can make 3 games where PDX only has 0,33 xd

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Hahaha alright

  • @damascene8777
    @damascene8777 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m playing a campaign as benevento and my previous ruler got like 4 plague events that took 80 legitimacy each. Very annoying.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому +1

      Seems like ure just not legitimate to rule in the eyes of the people lmao

  • @salvatorenoth2489
    @salvatorenoth2489 4 місяці тому

    The plagues in the Game of Thrones mod was 10x this, and the options to disable them didn't work. The entire realm just died within a year :D

  • @h3069
    @h3069 4 місяці тому +1

    ck3 has been out for 4 (jfc) years and I still see the "it'll get better with time and dlc" cope. There are some good and interesting systems in there but I don't think it can ever live up to Ck2

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Itll get better guys only another 20 dollars

  • @doudline2662
    @doudline2662 4 місяці тому +1

    "like forgetting to close your window on a hot summer evening" typical EU no AC enjoyer

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Yeah, we have no acs at home at all :/

  • @Pylgrasyn
    @Pylgrasyn 4 місяці тому +1

    Is it just me who enjoys it? Of course, plague resistance not affecting county infection is bad, but still, with a couple fixes through mods, I found the dlc interesting and enjoyable.

  • @stoutalarm8374
    @stoutalarm8374 4 місяці тому +1

    All fair points tbf, legends are a total waste of time, I actively avoid it to not get the legend spam events that happen
    I must be quite lucky tho because I haven’t really had too much of an issue with plagues personally other the plague resistance meaning literal jack sh*t

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      Yeah i suppose thats one way to do it, you don't have to engage with any of the mechanics

  • @user-vv6df8uk9s
    @user-vv6df8uk9s 4 місяці тому

    I kinda like the plague mechanic but there's a few things I dislike about it:
    1. It seems like the first plague in your playthrough always targets the player. I played a few games in Ireland and Iberia and a plague appeared near my realm in every game. My friend also said that it seems like plagues target the player.
    2. Plagues spread faster near coastlines so it's really miserable to play in Italy
    3. Plague popup shows when the plague is not even near my land.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  4 місяці тому

      I wonder what happens in multiplayer then

    • @user-vv6df8uk9s
      @user-vv6df8uk9s 4 місяці тому

      @@Dumdragoon we've actually played a multiplayer game where I was playing as a duke in Iberia and my friend was in France, the first ever plague in our playthrough spawned directly between our lands, it killed my heir but it was ok since my grandson was a real gigachad.
      Idk if it really targets players first, but I feel like it does.

  • @triko03
    @triko03 3 місяці тому +1

    personally i like the DLC, the plagues are quite funny and the legends are also kinda ok. I hope that they will improve some legends.

    • @Dumdragoon
      @Dumdragoon  3 місяці тому +1

      Good for you chief

    • @triko03
      @triko03 3 місяці тому

      @@Dumdragoon But i understand if Somebody doesn't like it. I mean it's a completely new game mechanic and it was able to give africa more chances to keep up woth europe (it was actually the case in the medival age)

  • @diogovieira4486
    @diogovieira4486 Місяць тому +1

    I have the normal edition on steam and I downloaded all dlcs from the ck3 pirates and used a program to active