As a Packers fan/owner, it pains me to say this! LOL! This is hands down, the BEST post-game analysis in the league! If Seth hasn't turned down an opportunity, how on earth is he not an NFL head coach yet (or at least a defensive coordinator)? His football IQ is absolutely off the charts! I am going to contact Gutey (Packers GM) and instruct him to hire Seth ASAP! LOL! G🏈 Pack G🧀!!
It’ll never happen. Lurie and Howie would both have a set of cojoined cows than hire a truth telling old school man’s man like Seth. We’re screwed for the next few seasons.
Thank you, Seth, for illustrating what many die-hard eagles fan like myself have been saying about hurts. He doesn't and will never read the field like the many quarterback in the nfl can do.
The Eagles need to hire Seth Joyner as Defensive Coordinator! The only down side to that is being deprived of his excellent commentary! My sister and I proudly wear our Joyner Jerseys on a regular basis - he was a great player - he gave 100% every snap every single play. His observations and analysis are intelligent, articulate and laser-focused. Plus, I just like his personality. He cares seemingly more than the current Eagles coaching staff! Hands down - my favorite analyst in football.
Vic Fangio is known for playing prevent defense at the end. Anyone remember Tennessee at Miami last year? They were winning 27-14 with 4 min left and the Titans came back to win 28-27. He's terrible in end of game scenarios. Siriani also opting to go for it instead of taking the points on the 1st or 2nd drive? Then throwing it after Atlanta calls their last timeout when they only needed 3 yards? Run the ball, they been gashing them all night. Worst case scenario is you kick the fg and give them the ball back with less than a minute left. That's how coaching can lose you a football game.
When the other team has no TO let the damn clock run, even if you have to get a delay of game. Coach took a risk on the pass to Barkley and it blew up in his face. Then the D just allowed them to march down the field with no resistance. Cousins is good, but he ain’t that good.
Vic running nickel at the end of the game rather than dime was pretty dumb. I honestly blame that decision in the first quarter not to kick a field goal. I knew that would come back to bite us. To early in the game to go for a 4th down it’s like this ever year. Take the points not gonna get lucky every time. It’s dumb coaching that 3 would’ve won us the game. Also are defense is definitely lacking talent on the dline and some other areas as well.
At the end of the game since they decided to throw it and it didn’t work. Hey it happens might as well just went for it again on 4th down I mean why not. Went for it in the 1st quarter what’s the difference. So many dumb coaching mistakes.
You could have one of your linebackers spy Kamara. Derek car is less mobile than Kirk cousins. Run the ball, and eat the clock. Keep them off off the field. If you can stop Kamara, and win the time of possession, you can win the game. Learn from your mistakes from this week. When you have points readily available, put them on the board. No need to go for fourth and three on the 7 yard line.inexcusable. Especially early in the game. Get the points on the board.
Seth is 100 percent right about Goedert. We should be using him more while he’s healthy. He is the perfect person to break the monotony of Brown, Smith or Barkley because they will be too predictable for the defense. Great show guys. Y’all are always on point.
I was saying this to my kids. 3 points didn't make a difference. Worst case they tie it. And idk Barkley can pick up extra 5 yards or so even if they don't make it you're forcing them to go 90 to 95 yards. You don't go for it early when you could have just taken an easy three, but when you need to ice it, you settle. Sirianni's only job at this point is to manage the game and he blew it
Seth is totally right about Jalen Hurt and the offensive scheme. Jalen is only locked in to his two receivers and not utilizing his TE who is a top 5 Tight End. I don’t blame Goebert if he leaves after this year. Kansas and Niners they utilize their TEs to their full potential. Andy Reid will make Dallas look like the best TE.
This is what happens when you pay top QB money, top Oline money and top WR money to 2 WRs. THE D GONNA BE TRASH UNLESS U DRAFT REALLY WELL. AND WE SEE THE DRAFTING OF DAVIS SMITH DEAN ETC. AINT GOOD ENOUGH. AND LETS NOT MENTION OUR PRIZED FA HUFF
I never though I would miss Jim Schwartz this much. He had his issues ! But at least he would bring some pressure. At least Jim Schwartz defense was always good vs the run.
Love this channel. Seth is so spot on. He tells it like it is or at least how he sees it. Would be great to have him as a coach but he is way too smart for that. Too much bullshit to put up with. I get it. If he does join Green Bay I would split my time between both Eagles and Packers. I will always be an Eagles fan for life but lets be honest. Eagles are a good team. Great players with average coaches equals good team.
The coaching staff let Jalen Hurts progression as a QB down. He bails too early and never steps into the pocket. That's a mechanics thing which can be fixed but it can only be fixed if you have a good coach teaching him these things and he's in year 5 and still has never had a GREAT QB Coach. Instead of giving Jalen designed runs make him step up into the pocket and make a throw. We're doing what the Redskins did to RG3 just running him into the ground.
Love Seth keeping it real. He articulates what we all feel. Why Howie hasn't hired him is beyond me. Look, this team is in DEEP trouble. Jalen's decision-making and defense reading is horrible. Defense line pressure is non-existent and Vangio has no answers. This is going to be a long season!
That's on coaching tho who's developing him into a pocket passer nobody they actually aid him not being a pocket passer by giving him all these designed runs
Only thing i somewhat disagree with seth on is toward the end when he said we had to "find a way to win". We didnt need to find a way to win this game. We had the game WON. We actually had this game won a couple times. We just found a way to lose at the last minute literally.
Well we hired the Guru of the guys we already fired...What did we expect... Meanwhile Rex Ryan is doing Television and Wink Martindale is coaching at Michigan...
People, relax. They didn’t play any pre-season games. New coordinators. That falls on my head coach, and he’s a dope for not letting them play in the preseason. But, it is what it is. Hopefully, we find our way. I’m confident we will. As a matter fact, I’m confident we win against the Saints easily next week.
Don't bet on it. Did you see what the Saints did to Dallas? And they have edge rushers....we don't. I'm thinking it's gonna be another beat down like @ Dallas.
couldn't wait for SJ's take on this bs, I hope the players are streaming this during the short week otw to the stadium I hope they're playing in again in February
DGunn nails this whole debate on the proverbial head. At some point since our superbowl win. this "bend but dont break" philosophy became the subject of a religious pursuit. We then proceeded to build our future entire draft and recruitment strategy on players deemed "suitable" to play in this defensive style. Truth is, it got exposed in the game that matters the most (Superbowl) and when we tanked last season. There is a myth that Howie can conjure trade and draft picks into our favour but these choices are set up for failure because of this aversion to play press or man. Our linebackers and secondary are taught to stick to zone and gift speedy receivers enough leverage to get open.
Steve spagnuolo is A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER THEN VIC FANGIO. He is a pressure/ blitz co-ordinator that changes it up, and will adjust . He has coached with so many teams .
Don’t know why we expected anything else. Fangio doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s overmatched, and he needs to be fired as soon as possible. Eagles need to trade Huff back to the Jets for Hassan Reddick and sign him. Eagles could be 1-3 after week 4.
The bigger picture is the question Seth always looks at. Where are the Eagles in terms of being competitive going forward? Not in a very good position. It's mostly coaching and personnel which is everything. So how do you deal with everything being wrong?
Blame analytics on eagles poor performance. Howie keeps bringing that crap to locker room meetings and infecting the team with it...and yes sirianni plays are on kellen moores sheet. Saying kellen calls all plays is total lie. Nice try sirianni.
Eagles are bad vs the run because of the VIC FANGIO SCHEME!! it's not a good scheme vs the rush. And eagles don't have a good run stopping dline. The edge position is weak, small and soft
There is no way this team makes it to super bowl… No preseason football this is what u get.. No pressure on QB this is what u get .. we always beat down Cousins and vic just let him stand there..
Seth is one of my FAVORITE linebackers… but he’s WRONG about Hassan… he’s not the answer! He’s Undersized as well as Huff…. Huff needs 15-20 more lbs on that frame to play OLB.. and SETH should KNOW THIS!! Hassan is light in the ass end too
Its gonna be 50 Burger w fries if refs dont get in the saints way . Nfl will have refs keep eagles in game due to ratings cant afford a blowout by first half tv revenue would suffer too much
Goedert gotta be utilized. Point blank period. If they don't use him in the actual passing game, he should leave next year. He's a difference maker even when he doesn't have the target on the play. He needs to be featured much more
Vic fangio defense looks outdated. It’s soft in the middle and it creates zero pressure. The offensive scheme doesn’t look innovative at all. Jalen looks damn near illiterate in the pocket.
I could just listen to a whole show of Seth going in after an Eagles loss. It's probably my only satisfaction after they lose.
Yo forreal
Me to I love it
😂😂😂SAME HERE! I LOVE IT!😂😂😂
It's because he's played the game and knows what he's talking about.so I'm with you
1000000000000% agree 😂
When Seth says “no offense” you know his next words are gonna be gold😂
As a Packers fan/owner, it pains me to say this! LOL! This is hands down, the BEST post-game analysis in the league! If Seth hasn't turned down an opportunity, how on earth is he not an NFL head coach yet (or at least a defensive coordinator)? His football IQ is absolutely off the charts! I am going to contact Gutey (Packers GM) and instruct him to hire Seth ASAP! LOL!
G🏈 Pack G🧀!!
love Seth he keeps it 10000000000
Right
Wish he could coach for us.
Did anyone catch the play when Bryce Huff was fixing his helmet while chasing the running back?
Seth is the only one I can bear to watch after a loss
Same here
Me too
Seth should be part of the Eagles coaching staff.. The fact that he's not is absolutely ridiculous
It’ll never happen. Lurie and Howie would both have a set of cojoined cows than hire a truth telling old school man’s man like Seth. We’re screwed for the next few seasons.
@@willr6173 exactly
He is NOT a YES man. He would tell them how it is and not toe the line, lile the currents coaches.
Great show Seth. Love how honest you are about the team. You definitely need some clips from the live show and upload those to grow the channel.
Seth and the guys great show honesty
Fire Nick.
Howie needs a scape goat when eagles dont make playoffs. 👉👉🐏
Your show is the only joy to take from this game. Keep it up. Much success.
Thank you, Seth, for illustrating what many die-hard eagles fan like myself have been saying about hurts. He doesn't and will never read the field like the many quarterback in the nfl can do.
I agree. I don't understand why people think its so great when he takes off running, often it's because he's not seeing the field and open receivers.
Runs out of the pocket too much/often. Doesn't climb the pocket, not smooth in his progressions like some other QBs
Roseman will never admit he was wrong about Reddick
The Eagles need to hire Seth Joyner as Defensive Coordinator! The only down side to that is being deprived of his excellent commentary! My sister and I proudly wear our Joyner Jerseys on a regular basis - he was a great player - he gave 100% every snap every single play. His observations and analysis are intelligent, articulate and laser-focused. Plus, I just like his personality. He cares seemingly more than the current Eagles coaching staff!
Hands down - my favorite analyst in football.
Vic Fangio is known for playing prevent defense at the end. Anyone remember Tennessee at Miami last year? They were winning 27-14 with 4 min left and the Titans came back to win 28-27. He's terrible in end of game scenarios. Siriani also opting to go for it instead of taking the points on the 1st or 2nd drive? Then throwing it after Atlanta calls their last timeout when they only needed 3 yards? Run the ball, they been gashing them all night. Worst case scenario is you kick the fg and give them the ball back with less than a minute left. That's how coaching can lose you a football game.
Barkley said it best "I catch the ball we win the game"
Dropped a wide open 5 yrd pass that went through his hands.
After that I blame the defense
We lost because of Jalen hurts get over it
When the other team has no TO let the damn clock run, even if you have to get a delay of game. Coach took a risk on the pass to Barkley and it blew up in his face. Then the D just allowed them to march down the field with no resistance. Cousins is good, but he ain’t that good.
Seth keeping it REAL
We cut Julian Okwara who looked like the best pass rusher in preseason... because he was NOT an Eagles draft pick...
Vic running nickel at the end of the game rather than dime was pretty dumb. I honestly blame that decision in the first quarter not to kick a field goal. I knew that would come back to bite us. To early in the game to go for a 4th down it’s like this ever year. Take the points not gonna get lucky every time. It’s dumb coaching that 3 would’ve won us the game. Also are defense is definitely lacking talent on the dline and some other areas as well.
At the end of the game since they decided to throw it and it didn’t work. Hey it happens might as well just went for it again on 4th down I mean why not. Went for it in the 1st quarter what’s the difference. So many dumb coaching mistakes.
You could have one of your linebackers spy Kamara. Derek car is less mobile than Kirk cousins. Run the ball, and eat the clock. Keep them off off the field. If you can stop Kamara, and win the time of possession, you can win the game. Learn from your mistakes from this week. When you have points readily available, put them on the board. No need to go for fourth and three on the 7 yard line.inexcusable. Especially early in the game. Get the points on the board.
We need reddick back bad
100% on dallas goddert !!! Love you guys I was saying that last year
Seth is 100 percent right about Goedert. We should be using him more while he’s healthy. He is the perfect person to break the monotony of Brown, Smith or Barkley because they will be too predictable for the defense. Great show guys. Y’all are always on point.
That is all on the QB
Derrick looks like hes battlling cancer or sickness. Prayers
🙏🙏🔥🔥
I think they should've went for it atlfter the Barkley drop, why not turnover on downs when u in the redzone instead the fg they was already tied up
I can agree with this but damn if your defensive play calling allows a 74 yard TD drive then it probably would've made little difference.
I was saying this to my kids.
3 points didn't make a difference.
Worst case they tie it.
And idk Barkley can pick up extra 5 yards or so even if they don't make it you're forcing them to go 90 to 95 yards.
You don't go for it early when you could have just taken an easy three, but when you need to ice it, you settle.
Sirianni's only job at this point is to manage the game and he blew it
I see NOLAN SMITH getting Pancaked to the Ground!! BUST !!!!!!!!!
Seth always speak the truth and idk what beef Jalen has with Goedert to not throw him the ball
I mean Goedert is always hurt
Seth is breathing 🔥.
any casual fan knows you run it on 3rd and 3 when the other team has no timeouts left.
I was screaming check down. Check down. They was there but Hurts ignored them.😡
SMH
its ok hurts acting like rusell wilson now. More jewerly and" lets all chill people" attitude as his performance continues to slide...👎👎
FACTS yall are 💯 percent on point
Throwing the ball on that 3rd down & playing prevent defense was why we loss
exactly....that made zero sense....run the ball. Also, kick the field goal in the first quarter
Valid assessment
Bringing back Nick Siriani and not resigning Reddick is also why we lost
“and idc if he goes to see the wizard, he’s never gonna be a great pass rusher”🤣😆
I agree - that was pretty funny!
Best Eagles post-game show bar none!
Seth is totally right about Jalen Hurt and the offensive scheme. Jalen is only locked in to his two receivers and not utilizing his TE who is a top 5 Tight End. I don’t blame Goebert if he leaves after this year. Kansas and Niners they utilize their TEs to their full potential. Andy Reid will make Dallas look like the best TE.
This loss is on the coaching staff
Eagles fan since 1978, I've seen it all. Eagles are done! Hurts is not ready, team is not ready...
The defense is the biggest problem
Nick also be overthinking things trying to outsmart his opponent and it backfires it’s not that hard bro just run the ball
The best show on UA-cam. Gunn is correct about "Vic"
This is what happens when you pay top QB money, top Oline money and top WR money to 2 WRs. THE D GONNA BE TRASH UNLESS U DRAFT REALLY WELL. AND WE SEE THE DRAFTING OF DAVIS SMITH DEAN ETC. AINT GOOD ENOUGH. AND LETS NOT MENTION OUR PRIZED FA HUFF
Seth Joyner has a great football IQ,The man knows football
Seth, you amaze me. This man needs to be a head coach somewhere. Or at least a coordinator. Respect for him.
I never though I would miss Jim Schwartz this much. He had his issues ! But at least he would bring some pressure. At least Jim Schwartz defense was always good vs the run.
Seth Joyner is an OG, and I'm a Redskins/Commanders fan.
Problems: Jalen Hurts vision decision making, Sirianni as head coach, Defense, Howie/ Analytics department = 6 win season
That's too far of a stretch. Let's not get carried away
@@FineWineFletchreally ? Too much of a stretch ? With this defense and this QB?
Jalen not the problem.
1:45:00 it’s after Labor Day. Time to put that coat in the storage for springtime.
ANALYITCS are fine, BUT, too many teams take the HUMAN ELEMENT out of the game!
Here is a simple answer to the defensive woes we saw last night... USE YOUR LINEBACKERS TO BLITZ! That is the main skillset of each of our backers.
Love this channel. Seth is so spot on. He tells it like it is or at least how he sees it. Would be great to have him as a coach but he is way too smart for that. Too much bullshit to put up with. I get it. If he does join Green Bay I would split my time between both Eagles and Packers. I will always be an Eagles fan for life but lets be honest. Eagles are a good team. Great players with average coaches equals good team.
Seth you should be our DC I said that last year
The coaching staff let Jalen Hurts progression as a QB down. He bails too early and never steps into the pocket. That's a mechanics thing which can be fixed but it can only be fixed if you have a good coach teaching him these things and he's in year 5 and still has never had a GREAT QB Coach. Instead of giving Jalen designed runs make him step up into the pocket and make a throw. We're doing what the Redskins did to RG3 just running him into the ground.
Joyner...........soooooooooooooooooooooo smart on this stuff.
Love Seth keeping it real. He articulates what we all feel. Why Howie hasn't hired him is beyond me. Look, this team is in DEEP trouble. Jalen's decision-making and defense reading is horrible. Defense line pressure is non-existent and Vangio has no answers. This is going to be a long season!
That's on coaching tho who's developing him into a pocket passer nobody they actually aid him not being a pocket passer by giving him all these designed runs
Seth Joyner should be hired by the eagles as defensive coordinator or quality control. The guy needs to be in the building. Can’t beat experience
Neither Slay, Hurts, or Barkley should have been put in the position to lose that game...arrogant play calling
bad lost great analysis by the guys👍
I don't know much but I do know how to put on a jock strap. 😂😂
Idk if my Bucs have the blueprint on Jalen. Because he hurt em last year.
Only thing i somewhat disagree with seth on is toward the end when he said we had to "find a way to win". We didnt need to find a way to win this game. We had the game WON. We actually had this game won a couple times. We just found a way to lose at the last minute literally.
Seth Joyner for head coach, I can't take anymore of Sirianni. Also, Fangio sucks.
Well we hired the Guru of the guys we already fired...What did we expect... Meanwhile Rex Ryan is doing Television and Wink Martindale is coaching at Michigan...
Hurts scrambles right means wasted down every time, point blank period.
God bless everyone
People, relax. They didn’t play any pre-season games. New coordinators. That falls on my head coach, and he’s a dope for not letting them play in the preseason. But, it is what it is. Hopefully, we find our way. I’m confident we will. As a matter fact, I’m confident we win against the Saints easily next week.
Don't bet on it. Did you see what the Saints did to Dallas? And they have edge rushers....we don't. I'm thinking it's gonna be another beat down like @ Dallas.
couldn't wait for SJ's take on this bs, I hope the players are streaming this during the short week otw to the stadium I hope they're playing in again in February
It's just starting off like this we going win sb this year in 25' than God😊
It's good Huff's number is 0, because his production is literally 0 so it keeps everything simple and accurate.
DGunn nails this whole debate on the proverbial head.
At some point since our superbowl win. this "bend but dont break" philosophy became the subject of a religious pursuit.
We then proceeded to build our future entire draft and recruitment strategy on players deemed "suitable" to play in this defensive style.
Truth is, it got exposed in the game that matters the most (Superbowl) and when we tanked last season.
There is a myth that Howie can conjure trade and draft picks into our favour but these choices are set up for failure because of this aversion to play press or man. Our linebackers and secondary are taught to stick to zone and gift speedy receivers enough leverage to get open.
Seth isn’t lying Jaylen has been looking lost he can only can read half the field that’s a major problem and they not getting Dallas involved
If he tha architect why his blueprint broken that was krazy
Steve spagnuolo is A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER THEN VIC FANGIO. He is a pressure/ blitz co-ordinator that changes it up, and will adjust . He has coached with so many teams .
The coaching I give an F minus. The defensive line F minus.
Seth needs to be on the staff lol
We in trouble.....
Jalen has to be better at reading the field and decision making still making rookie mistakes in yr 5
Don’t know why we expected anything else. Fangio doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s overmatched, and he needs to be fired as soon as possible. Eagles need to trade Huff back to the Jets for Hassan Reddick and sign him. Eagles could be 1-3 after week 4.
The bigger picture is the question Seth always looks at. Where are the Eagles in terms of being competitive going forward? Not in a very good position. It's mostly coaching and personnel which is everything. So how do you deal with everything being wrong?
Blame analytics on eagles poor performance. Howie keeps bringing that crap to locker room meetings and infecting the team with it...and yes sirianni plays are on kellen moores sheet. Saying kellen calls all plays is total lie. Nice try sirianni.
this is Fangios BREAK BUT DONT BEND DEFENSE
Eagles are bad vs the run because of the VIC FANGIO SCHEME!! it's not a good scheme vs the rush. And eagles don't have a good run stopping dline. The edge position is weak, small and soft
There is no way this team makes it to super bowl… No preseason football this is what u get.. No pressure on QB this is what u get .. we always beat down Cousins and vic just let him stand there..
In the past I would say never panic after 2 games and you are 1-1. Not today. Panic.
Seth has a high football lQ he could be gm or a coach
Clint Hurtt needs to get on Jordan Davis & Jalen Carter, and to coach them up. Clean up this BS
They better not freaking wait until week 15 to make a move fix this shit right now trade for DT and Pass rush
Seth is one of my FAVORITE linebackers… but he’s WRONG about Hassan… he’s not the answer! He’s Undersized as well as Huff…. Huff needs 15-20 more lbs on that frame to play OLB.. and SETH should KNOW THIS!!
Hassan is light in the ass end too
Hassan is better than what we have now, he isn't "the answer" but he is better than huff
Eagles defense is a garbage fire, absolutely NO EDGE RUSH!!
Sirianni told y’all for the hundredth time..admittedly, over the weekend “the offense runs through three people”
Vic Fangio defense is garbage now
Fangio better than Spags? Yeah right 😂😂
Gotta get Reddick back
New Orleans at home is gonna have roasted Eagle even though it's illegal.
Its gonna be 50 Burger w fries if refs dont get in the saints way . Nfl will have refs keep eagles in game due to ratings cant afford a blowout by first half tv revenue would suffer too much
Goedert gotta be utilized. Point blank period. If they don't use him in the actual passing game, he should leave next year. He's a difference maker even when he doesn't have the target on the play. He needs to be featured much more
All those weapons and cant move rock effecfitively sad ..
100% This is on Jalen, he does not see the field, that is becoming very obvious.
Jalen carter is to dumb to learn pass rush moves. All he knows is bull rush
7-10 no playoffs they lucky the giants and skins are worse but won’t be forever
Gardner minshew used Dallas goedert every game he played for eagles!!! Maybe jalen hurts doesn't like goedert???
Go get #7 back. Bryce Huff ain't it!!!
I think Jalen is 2 short to throw the slants
What the hell is Farzetta doing there?
The guys look thirsty. Get 'em a drink, Marc, while you aint doing nothing anyway.
Vic fangio defense looks outdated. It’s soft in the middle and it creates zero pressure. The offensive scheme doesn’t look innovative at all. Jalen looks damn near illiterate in the pocket.
Fangio is like Zimmer...old school defensive minded coaches days are over, this is 2025 comin.