The 870 is one of the greatest shotguns ever, I still have my original 870 from when I was in high school although I put it in a bullpup stock recently.
Good shotgun the older and more broke in the better I'd rather someone give me a old one rather than a new one . I been shooting a 1187 3 1/2 00 buck shot and turkey shot
Have you heard about California State Senator Leland Yee yet? He is the Democrat who wrote the infamous bullet button ban bill among other anti gun bills in years past. Well he was arrested in an FBI sting for among other things gun running for the Chinese Triad! Can you believe it?
i love benelli myself but if you bought a benelli and go to the range with it. your an idiot, hunting/professional tactical shooting one thing. range is stupid its so overpriced
The "candy cane" term is what I used to call my "one foot in the grave" load out. I had bird shot, then slug. The phrase I always used was "one to scare ya and one to bury ya".
some kind of rifle with minimum barrel allowed, short or fold able butt-stock, or .45 smg. Either one with hollow point ammo. Automatic, plenty of ammo, precise. Great for home defense.
Wibblywobbly Timeywimey I had that argument with someone and apparently it's only matter of correct ammunition, you dont want full metal jacket. I never tested it myself, I would like these guys actually made a video of plausibility of ARs or SMGs being a proper home defense weapon.
What are the FBI standards for testicle penetration? I think we need further testing on weight retention after passing through one or both. And no, I do not volunteer.
I think shotguns have somehow taken a backseat in the minds of some people, they tend to have favored the AR's now and given up on shotguns. Not saying there is nothing wrong with the AR but some just think the shotgun is old fashioned. I have had a few short barreled 12 gauge shotguns over the years, a Winchester Model 12, a Remington 870 Police, an Ithaca 37, heck even an old High Standard Riot King. Recently I snagged another 870, an older version from about 1980 and I like it a lot. Buckshot is a great defensive load, it is time tested and proven, and you don't need to buy 3 inch punishing loads, 2 3/4 inch will work fine, same with the slugs. I used to carry a little 20 gauge coach gun and buckshot out of that gun was very tough on whatever target I shot. Shotguns are certainly worth what you pay for them. A good 870 Remington off the rack is much cheaper than even the most basic AR.
***** No I think a classic Ruger 10/22 or Remington 597 would be the best bang for buck. IMHO Both chambered in 22lr; which is like 5-6$ for 50-100 rnds depending on brands and availability. Another option would be like the AR 15 variant or other semi auto carbine type weapon in 22LR. But you must certainly don't HAVE to get a shotgun or 22LR lol.
Out of a 18.5" barrel, Federal Vital-Shok 9 pellet and Hornady TAP 8 pellet 00-Bucks pattern much better. Both offer about a 10" pattern at 25 yards and a chest size spread at 35 yards. You should test those and compare them with other 00-Buck loads for pattern and penetration. Hell, I'm just happy to see another shotgun video. Semper Fi
I'm pretty sure that the "chainsaw grip" is for holding the shotgun steady while door breaching. It's for being able to stick it right up against the hinges....and blow them out.
Bob Jinkle I was making a joke, like a play on words. Although, I would like to see someone actually cut down a tree using a shotgun with a chainsaw grip...
People wonder where FPSrussia gets all his guns, from this guy's gun shop. He uses their shooting range for his videos as well, this guy even records the video's for him.
My son and I were shooting pumpkins today with the 870 and slugs. The other guns we shot were the AR15, and his 30-30 deer rifle. By far, the shotgun was the most fun of all three. At one point everyone that was shooting at the range stopped and came down to watch us shoot pumpkins with slugs. It really was a cool moment for my 17 year old son.
The pattern of any shotgun is unique to that gun, with some similarities between guns with the same configuration. My Remington 870 Magpul has very different results than you observed. Mine with 00 buckshot patterned about 10 inches at 10 yards and expanded to about 14 inches at 25 yards. That is with the Remington supplied tactical choke tube which has a door breaching front part of the tube. The instructor was quite amazed at the pattern, which was not at all what others saw that day. My experience is that the pattern from different guns can be very different.
Yeah, I have one with kapten rank, apparently from someone who saw service in Afghanistan, as it has the Swedish flag sown onto the left side( I think) shoulder.
At first when i bought the 870 tactical. I thought the guy was trying to oversell the shotgun to me saying that it was his favorite of all time saying he owned many. But now i see that he was probably telling the truth because that's now my favorite shotgun of all time 😍
Just bought a 870 tactical with the big breecher muzzle brake last week. Just shot it aaaannnddd whhhhooo does it kick. I also used 3inch magnum slugs so it kicks like a mule and horse with a small donkey thrown in but damn! Even on paper you could tell the damage! Definitely will be my home defense gun! Also, be off note, if you are using 3inch shells, it’s gonna be 5+1 instead since you won’t get the six rounds down the tubes since the ammo tube is for 2 3/4 inch shells.
Me and my buddies were shooting our semi auto pistols in the woods with the targets on tree like that, when we were done I used his twelve gauge and blasted them in half. I never realized how much fun chopping down a tree with a shotgun could be.
You need to shoot some old appliances with the 12 gauge. A friend and I were shooting my 870 with 1 ounce slugs @1600FPS at an old washing machine. I estimate the distance at 60-70 feet. It made a very loud clang when it hit, tore a nice hole and rocked the washing machine back on 2 legs (think of tipping back in your chair) before righting itself again. We were impressed with the amount of impact energy the slug has.
Oh yeah,my friend! Got's me a decked out 870 magnum ,and let me tell ya folks out there,never met a "problem" I couldn't solve with it lol. Yeah Buddy!!
I'm interested in getting an 870, but I know very little about shotguns in general. Could you guys in the future make a video explaining why shell size matters (3 1/2, 3 inch shells and the variations of 870 that chamber them) and changing barrels and chokes and other topics? I guess I should note I'm not looking for one for hunting.
I keep my 870 close to my bedroom, an awesome defense weapon if you can master the kickback. The ability to use a variety of loads is a real real plus in a shotgun.
I have also heard the "candy cane load" called a rainbow tube, you could do something like escalation of force if you wanted. Such as rock salt, bean bag, bird, bird, buck, buck, slug
Awwww that poor ol' tree,.......kind of expensive way to fell a firewood tree though. What fun....and yes old appliances would look real good at the end of that shotgun, just like "BestRacing.." said there. Good fun.
Lol the part where you cut down the tree reminded me of when I did more or less the same thing unintentially with an SKS, after the FMJ mil surp ammo passed clean through a 1/4 inch steel plate that I was shooting at.
There's a reason that oak was used to build battle ships. The grain in the tree interweaves meaning that it's very hard to split like other woods. You can see that Eric had a hard time shooting through it.
I'm definitely no tree hugging hippie, but I couldn't help but wonder why you were taking down a live tree. Until you explained that you were going to use it for firewood. Oak does happen to be a very good firewood. Excellent video Eric! Give my condolences to Roscoe lol
a 12 gauge shotgun, is the best weapon for a siege on a castle if you think of it, you knock down the walls, open almost any door, and effectively engage enemy combatants within the cramped confines of the castles interior, best CQB weapon, and key
My Remington 870 tactical can get a 5" group at 25yards using Federal 00 buckshot w/ Flitecontrol wad. It pretty much doubles the effective range of the shot to about 45-50yards. Id recommend that ammo to anyone looking to get the absolute best out of their cylinder bore shotgun. Warning: does not work well in choked shotguns.
I think this type of video should be also for pistols and rifles. I'd like to see the power of a 9mm against a block, soda can and whatever.. Awesome video =)
I would almost argue using bird shot for home defense. You have a better spread of pellets going at the intruder that if it doesn't kill him, it'll scare him off enough knowing he was just shot. There's definite pros to using buck shot as well, you just might need to be more accurate depending on the openness of the home.
You could think more mass = more kinetic energy. But actually velocity increases the energy exponentially. E=1/2 * m * v^2. Twice the mass gives twice the power but twice the velocity gives 4 times more energy. In the end the energy in the powder is a constant and buckshot spreads the energy to like 9 pieces.
I loved this, my first gun was a Mossberg 500. A shotgun is so versatile, you can never go wrong with owning one. I would love to see a video for distance and patterns for Winchesters PDX1 Defender slug & buck combo. And more distance/pattern tests with various manufacturer ammo, lethal and non-lethal. Remember, you do the tests so we don't have to haha. Love this channel.
In a home defense gun fight at 5 to 7 yards any shot will get the job done, multiple videos prove this, the damage is very similair between bird buck, and slug
Pattern is also greatly affected by choke. From that pattern I'm guessing an open choke. As far as people's questions on lethality 1 buckshot pellet traveled over 100 yards through the woods, and struck another hunter in the chest and killed him around here about 14 years ago. So really it's lethal further than you can reliably hit with it. I find 50 yards is about it with a modified choke. Of course at 100 yards when you start shucking buffered 00 buck at them they better hit the dirt because it will be a hailstorm in their general direction.
The 870 is one of the greatest shotguns ever, I still have my original 870 from when I was in high school although I put it in a bullpup stock recently.
my 870 has killed everything from deer to rabbits to birds, to leafblowers, lawnmowers, computers, lawn gnomes, just a dang fine shotgun.
I like the 870. But I am lazy and enjoy the 1100.
Good shotgun the older and more broke in the better I'd rather someone give me a old one rather than a new one . I been shooting a 1187 3 1/2 00 buck shot and turkey shot
Have you heard about California State Senator Leland Yee yet? He is the Democrat who wrote the infamous bullet button ban bill among other anti gun bills in years past. Well he was arrested in an FBI sting for among other things gun running for the Chinese Triad! Can you believe it?
Thanks. Just scared of messing up my gun. The REM 887 nitro mag manual isnt very clear.
I'm a Benelli guy, myself, but you just can't hate on the Remington 870. Reliable, modular, affordable and durable.
i love benelli myself but if you bought a benelli and go to the range with it. your an idiot, hunting/professional tactical shooting one thing. range is stupid its so overpriced
Benelli is overrated, over priced Italian junk. American firearms or no firearms
@@kanekochera57 lol
The "candy cane" term is what I used to call my "one foot in the grave" load out. I had bird shot, then slug. The phrase I always used was "one to scare ya and one to bury ya".
Nothing beats a Shotgun for home defense , Great video
AR15?
henoch44 My thoughts exactly.
some kind of rifle with minimum barrel allowed, short or fold able butt-stock, or .45 smg. Either one with hollow point ammo. Automatic, plenty of ammo, precise. Great for home defense.
Wibblywobbly Timeywimey
I had that argument with someone and apparently it's only matter of correct ammunition, you dont want full metal jacket. I never tested it myself, I would like these guys actually made a video of plausibility of ARs or SMGs being a proper home defense weapon.
well, i'd got with an MP5, but your right, the best your allowed to get
Great demonstration, and nice bonus of the penetration test on Roscoe's bare nads! What, no denim? LMAO
Hope your doin well sir so you can do more vids...
That's the poor mans sex change haha!
What are the FBI standards for testicle penetration? I think we need further testing on weight retention after passing through one or both. And no, I do not volunteer.
The first gun my dad ever got me was a Remington 870 express, love it. Really a great gun.
I think shotguns have somehow taken a backseat in the minds of some people, they tend to have favored the AR's now and given up on shotguns. Not saying there is nothing wrong with the AR but some just think the shotgun is old fashioned. I have had a few short barreled 12 gauge shotguns over the years, a Winchester Model 12, a Remington 870 Police, an Ithaca 37, heck even an old High Standard Riot King. Recently I snagged another 870, an older version from about 1980 and I like it a lot. Buckshot is a great defensive load, it is time tested and proven, and you don't need to buy 3 inch punishing loads, 2 3/4 inch will work fine, same with the slugs. I used to carry a little 20 gauge coach gun and buckshot out of that gun was very tough on whatever target I shot. Shotguns are certainly worth what you pay for them. A good 870 Remington off the rack is much cheaper than even the most basic AR.
It is because of movies, video games and magazines. The all American Education.
Hmmm my friend knows his guns. Told me not to buy a dessert eagle, S and W 500 and such. Keep it simple get a saiga 12, glock 19, mossberg, AK
***** No I think a classic Ruger 10/22 or Remington 597 would be the best bang for buck. IMHO Both chambered in 22lr; which is like 5-6$ for 50-100 rnds depending on brands and availability. Another option would be like the AR 15 variant or other semi auto carbine type weapon in 22LR. But you must certainly don't HAVE to get a shotgun or 22LR lol.
You are 100% biased.
Read my comment; it took intellect to construct my response.
Felling a tree with a shotgun. That blue chick from Avatar is having a stroke right now :D
Out of a 18.5" barrel, Federal Vital-Shok 9 pellet and Hornady TAP 8 pellet 00-Bucks pattern much better. Both offer about a 10" pattern at 25 yards and a chest size spread at 35 yards. You should test those and compare them with other 00-Buck loads for pattern and penetration.
Hell, I'm just happy to see another shotgun video.
Semper Fi
What brand barrel is it?
So you cut down a tree with a 12 gauge. Is that why some shotguns come with a "chainsaw" grip?
I'm pretty sure that the "chainsaw grip" is for holding the shotgun steady while door breaching. It's for being able to stick it right up against the hinges....and blow them out.
Bob Jinkle I was making a joke, like a play on words. Although, I would like to see someone actually cut down a tree using a shotgun with a chainsaw grip...
Wedelj ever heard of the jackhammer (shotgun) that will fell a tree no problem
Lensius Looks like a bullpup AA-12 that has less capacity. I'd buy it.
Wedelj more capacity higher fire rate faster rate of fire out of all shotguns to be more specific
lmfao "I know there's some hippie tree hugger out there that's gonna get mad at me for doin that"
hilarious dude
People wonder where FPSrussia gets all his guns, from this guy's gun shop. He uses their shooting range for his videos as well, this guy even records the video's for him.
What is your source of information?
I think FPS Russia is in texas and these guys are in georgia.
You might be right... ;)
*****
Haha I'm pretty sure I am
***** Love FPS Russia
My son and I were shooting pumpkins today with the 870 and slugs. The other guns we shot were the AR15, and his 30-30 deer rifle. By far, the shotgun was the most fun of all three. At one point everyone that was shooting at the range stopped and came down to watch us shoot pumpkins with slugs. It really was a cool moment for my 17 year old son.
The pattern of any shotgun is unique to that gun, with some similarities between guns with the same configuration. My Remington 870 Magpul has very different results than you observed. Mine with 00 buckshot patterned about 10 inches at 10 yards and expanded to about 14 inches at 25 yards. That is with the Remington supplied tactical choke tube which has a door breaching front part of the tube. The instructor was quite amazed at the pattern, which was not at all what others saw that day.
My experience is that the pattern from different guns can be very different.
Love how he is wearing a Swedish pattern military coat!
Came here to say the same thing!
With ensignas from the swedish infantry(?) with "korpral" grade ;-)
Yeah, I have one with kapten rank, apparently from someone who saw service in Afghanistan, as it has the Swedish flag sown onto the left side( I think) shoulder.
i think its because hes a fan of Swedish firearms
In Sweden you're not allowed to wear it like that ;-)
Close-in a 12ga dishes out the whoop-ass better than an AR
Why are Roscos pants pulled down?
Lolololol I was wandering the same thing!!!!!!
Was thinking the same thing too.
Maybe he was in the middle of taking a leak? He might have figured that since there's a wall between him and them, he could get away with it.
ig he was caught with his pants down? lol?
Victor Anzala Q
I finally got an 870 for hunting n trapping. I love it. My daughter makes the rails on top at work. Very fun gun.
At first when i bought the 870 tactical. I thought the guy was trying to oversell the shotgun to me saying that it was his favorite of all time saying he owned many. But now i see that he was probably telling the truth because that's now my favorite shotgun of all time 😍
As a tool used by many patrol members such as my grandfather, it really is the ultimate shotgun.
Look at that smile at 6:06 .... thats is ultimate happiness
AK47 Prepper yes it is sir yes it is
Was debating on grabbing a shotgun for a first fire arm. After seeing what this remington 870 did to the cinder blocks.. I'm sold...
Just bought a 870 tactical with the big breecher muzzle brake last week. Just shot it aaaannnddd whhhhooo does it kick. I also used 3inch magnum slugs so it kicks like a mule and horse with a small donkey thrown in but damn! Even on paper you could tell the damage! Definitely will be my home defense gun! Also, be off note, if you are using 3inch shells, it’s gonna be 5+1 instead since you won’t get the six rounds down the tubes since the ammo tube is for 2 3/4 inch shells.
Me and my buddies were shooting our semi auto pistols in the woods with the targets on tree like that, when we were done I used his twelve gauge and blasted them in half. I never realized how much fun chopping down a tree with a shotgun could be.
Shot down an oak tree we used to use as a backstop before.....it was awesome watching about a 16" Diameter tree fall from lead haha
Thank you Eric for posting this! I've been requesting this one for months now! I always have my Remington 870 Tactical at my side!
"oh, its teetering."
Great video as always guys!
Long live your channel. !!!!!!!!
From what I was told a good rule of thumb is for every yard expect 1 inch of spread.
"Don't worry, hippies. We're planning burn the tree corpse." Lol cool video
Chopping that tree down was cool!
You need to shoot some old appliances with the 12 gauge. A friend and I were shooting my 870 with 1 ounce slugs @1600FPS at an old washing machine. I estimate the distance at 60-70 feet. It made a very loud clang when it hit, tore a nice hole and rocked the washing machine back on 2 legs (think of tipping back in your chair) before righting itself again. We were impressed with the amount of impact energy the slug has.
Not quite 1600 FPS.Good story anyway
tommyguns14able Why not 1600 FPS? Hornady SST slugs are rated at 2000 FPS muzzle & still at 1600+ at 100 yds
Tommyguns: Winchester Super-X Rifled hollow point slugs, 1 oz. 2 3/4" 1600 FPS. Says so right on the box.
Oh yeah,my friend! Got's me a decked out 870 magnum ,and let me tell ya folks out there,never met a "problem" I couldn't solve with it lol. Yeah Buddy!!
I guess Rosco got caught with his pants around his ankles! LOL
Depicts just a few examples of why I have been an 870 fan since the late sixties. Love 'em "to death." (sic).
Great video! Really helps to understand different loads and their effectiveness.
I'm interested in getting an 870, but I know very little about shotguns in general. Could you guys in the future make a video explaining why shell size matters (3 1/2, 3 inch shells and the variations of 870 that chamber them) and changing barrels and chokes and other topics?
I guess I should note I'm not looking for one for hunting.
Swedish m90 camo! Nice! :D
the smile on his face when that tree fell down lmao
Nothing like a shotgun...tons of fun!
I have a 20 gauge and 3 buck is perfect for a home defense situation
"Some hippie tree-huggers gonna hate me 4 that....".lol Eric is kinda hillarious ^^
I keep my 870 close to my bedroom, an awesome defense weapon if you can master the kickback. The ability to use a variety of loads is a real real plus in a shotgun.
I have also heard the "candy cane load" called a rainbow tube, you could do something like escalation of force if you wanted.
Such as rock salt, bean bag, bird, bird, buck, buck, slug
Great vid Eric, Some of us can't get out an shoot stuff as often as we want to so it is nice to see somebody doing it.
The Remington 870 is my favorite pump action shotgun.
I think it's awesome that you are wearing the Swedish military M/90 jacket
"There's some hippie tree huggers somewhere hating me for this". Priceless!
Swedish M90 feldjacket. Nice to see it over seas!
Awwww that poor ol' tree,.......kind of expensive way to fell a firewood tree though. What fun....and yes old appliances would look real good at the end of that shotgun, just like "BestRacing.." said there. Good fun.
Lol the part where you cut down the tree reminded me of when I did more or less the same thing unintentially with an SKS, after the FMJ mil surp ammo passed clean through a 1/4 inch steel plate that I was shooting at.
Liked specifically for the tree cutting.
There's a reason that oak was used to build battle ships. The grain in the tree interweaves meaning that it's very hard to split like other woods. You can see that Eric had a hard time shooting through it.
I'm definitely no tree hugging hippie, but I couldn't help but wonder why you were taking down a live tree. Until you explained that you were going to use it for firewood. Oak does happen to be a very good firewood. Excellent video Eric! Give my condolences to Roscoe lol
You guys are the best! when ever I get on youtube, your the first channel I look for, thanks again!
HAHA!!!! "Hippie tree lover" haha!!!! Wow man that was original bud! Very clever 👍
I love my 870 Express Tactical.
Couldn't finish watching. Looking at that gun, made my tummy hurt.
a 12 gauge shotgun, is the best weapon for a siege on a castle if you think of it, you knock down the walls, open almost any door, and effectively engage enemy combatants within the cramped confines of the castles interior, best CQB weapon, and key
That tree wanted to take you down with it lol
I bet those candy cane shells come in handy when the elves go on strike or riot lol love the videos keep up the great work
Love Love Love my Remington 870!
Thank you so much for this Video!!
Awesome video. Like the thought and effort u guys put into making it entertaining yet informational as always.
I love that Swedish M90 camo
I love where this channel is going.
Shotguns are a blast. Love my 590a1. Eventually I'll get an 870 and it will be very similar to that one. Great video!
You guys do great videos. Thanks for the entertainment. Always good to watch some gun videos when I cant make it to the range.
You shot Barrys ROOM MATE!! LOL
Nice swedish uniform ;)
My Remington 870 tactical can get a 5" group at 25yards using Federal 00 buckshot w/ Flitecontrol wad. It pretty much doubles the effective range of the shot to about 45-50yards. Id recommend that ammo to anyone looking to get the absolute best out of their cylinder bore shotgun. Warning: does not work well in choked shotguns.
Dang man! You're a stud to be able to shoot that many rounds. My shoulder would be hamburger! Bought a recoil reducing stock for my 870.
Nothing better than a shotgun loaded with slugs.....my favorite
This dude is having WAAYYY too much fun!
Rosco's got a lotta balls to stand back there. Er. . . use to anyway. lol
Pretty cool shotgun and packs a punch too
Nice video Eric. Thanks.
If you guys where really awsome you would do a shoot with the Remington 7615 pump action for all your Australian fans
No need for you to worry about tree huggers chief....they ain't knocking on YOUR door ever. Hahaha
I think this type of video should be also for pistols and rifles. I'd like to see the power of a 9mm against a block, soda can and whatever.. Awesome video =)
"That was visually impressive"
Awesome how he laughs at some of the stuff.
Man Roscoe didn’t even flinch getting shot in the goods
''That slug really carries some extreme kinetic energy'' This is poetry... :-)
Life is good, its a sin to have that much fun. awesome video
I would almost argue using bird shot for home defense. You have a better spread of pellets going at the intruder that if it doesn't kill him, it'll scare him off enough knowing he was just shot. There's definite pros to using buck shot as well, you just might need to be more accurate depending on the openness of the home.
You could think more mass = more kinetic energy. But actually velocity increases the energy exponentially. E=1/2 * m * v^2. Twice the mass gives twice the power but twice the velocity gives 4 times more energy. In the end the energy in the powder is a constant and buckshot spreads the energy to like 9 pieces.
Cool jacket, swedish army with corporal ranks on the collar. Nice!
I like how he used the same mannequin target fpsrussia used in his ak video. Explains why his pants are down
The name of this video is perfect.
"Rosco"...Now that's what I call "Bustin Some Nuts"
Couple thoughts. 1: LOAD DIRECT TO CHAMBER, CLOSE ACTION, LOAD TUBE. 2: That scrub oak is more like 6-8" diameter. Nice try.
I've always prefered slugs, gotta luv a good 12 gauge
I turkey hunt with an 870.
I love seing you using the swedish M90 uniform. :D
I loved this, my first gun was a Mossberg 500. A shotgun is so versatile, you can never go wrong with owning one. I would love to see a video for distance and patterns for Winchesters PDX1 Defender slug & buck combo. And more distance/pattern tests with various manufacturer ammo, lethal and non-lethal. Remember, you do the tests so we don't have to haha. Love this channel.
I want to thank you guys for these videos . They have been very informative
Lol laughed my head off the dummy's pants were pulled down lol
Them tree huggers are gonna hunt you down bro!
In a home defense gun fight at 5 to 7 yards any shot will get the job done, multiple videos prove this, the damage is very similair between bird buck, and slug
Pattern is also greatly affected by choke. From that pattern I'm guessing an open choke. As far as people's questions on lethality 1 buckshot pellet traveled over 100 yards through the woods, and struck another hunter in the chest and killed him around here about 14 years ago.
So really it's lethal further than you can reliably hit with it. I find 50 yards is about it with a modified choke. Of course at 100 yards when you start shucking buffered 00 buck at them they better hit the dirt because it will be a hailstorm in their general direction.