I’m 90% done with my BA in philosophy. I often get asked “what are you gonna do with that degree?” “You can really only be a teacher.” I have no real plans with the degree, I want to become a tattoo artist. But I have my degree payed for and I wanted to pursue something that would open my eyes to the world. I can 100% say philosophy has done that. Perspective is something a lot of people in this world lack but once you find it, it truly makes you see everything differently. I want to travel the world and experience different cultures. This degree plan has set an amazing foundation for me to continue learning in life
In studies Phil grads found to have the best writing skills, even surpassing English graduates, something to do wuth the combination of words and logic.
Maybe this is just me being a contrarian but I think tattoos have become less a symbol of identity and more a form narcissism. Just like travel, I feel like people pursue these things in order to say they've done it. People that walk a mile outside the resort to get their selfie. It's not about them experiencing a culture it's about a culture experiencing them. It's not about the tattoo, it's about what other people think about that tattoo. Narcissism is growing due to social media. I can never know what someone's intentions are but the number of people getting tattoos seem to be more motivated by teenage-like angst; to be unique and seen. I still think about getting a tattoo and what message I'm trying to telegraph to the world then I realize how self-aggrandizing that is. Traveling is a wonderful thing, but whenever I ask people where they want to travel they really haven't given it much thought. They usually have a ridiculous goal like go to every country. It's not about actually traveling, it's about saying that you did it. I want to see the Hagia Sophia before I die and maybe Argentina. I like the history and culture. Anyways that's my two cents, I feel like philosophy people get so hung up on idealism that they will inevitably become depressed by reality. Being pragmatic and less self centered is the way to become a whole person, that's how you keep your ego in check.
Having lived in Italy and Korea, I offer only the words of Mark Twain from my favourite of his, _Innocents Abroad:_ "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.” Everything else that I would say would be acquired on your own. Bring good shoes.
Going to university is not only about learning a major to become something. I went to school and earned my sociology degree. I learned so much about life, philosophy that it was an absolute joy to learn. It wasn't my intention to become a sociologists. I went to school to learn about things I never would on my own. It was about discovery. Not about becoming anything. Today, I travel the world for similar reasons. To learn about the world. Not to become.
Socrates was also deeply interested in understanding the limits of human knowledge. When he was told that the Oracle at Delphi had declared that he was the wisest man in Athens, Socrates balked until he realized that, although he knew nothing, he was (unlike his fellow citizens) keenly aware of his own ignorance. He became so furious at this statement that he tried his hardest to prove the Oracle wrong, going about challenging all men thought to be wise. In his attempt to do so, he proved her right. In 399 B.C., Socrates was accused of corrupting the youth of Athens and of impiety, or heresy. He chose to defend himself in court. Rather than present himself as wrongly accused, Socrates declared he fulfilled an important role as a gadfly, one who provides an important service to his community by continually questioning and challenging the status quo and its defenders. The jury was not swayed by Socrates' defense and convicted him by a vote of 280 to 221. Possibly the defiant tone of his defense contributed to the verdict and he made things worse during the deliberation over his punishment. It was in court that Socrates allegedly uttered the now-famous phrase, “the unexamined life is not worth living.” Athenian law allowed a convicted citizen to propose an alternative punishment to the one called for by the prosecution and the jury would decide. Instead of proposing he be exiled, Socrates suggested he be honored by the city for his contribution to their enlightenment and be paid for his services. The jury was not amused and sentenced him to death by drinking a mixture of poison hemlock. Before Socrates' execution, friends offered to bribe the guards and rescue him so he could flee into exile. He declined, stating he wasn't afraid of death, felt he would be no better off if in exile and said he was still a loyal citizen of Athens, willing to abide by its laws, even the ones that condemned him to death. He knew that he could either die in the streets alone as an old man, or for his beliefs. Socrates described his death as a release of the soul from the body.
@@idontknowyetwhoiam I cannot post the sources as UA-cam DELETES them automatically.... Some of them include sites such as world history/history/stanford-encyclopedia-of-philosophy... just type them with the dotcom in the end and add the word Socrates. I am also born in Greece and we learn about the Trial and Death of Socrates by Plato in school. Needless to say that he is my favourite philosopher. Welcome to 2022, where sources are being deleted..... SMH
@@mikewhocheeseharry5292 you may find interesting Robert Epstein’s “transducer” theory. He proposes an alternative view of the brain instead of it being a computer.
I don't mind the drama in your statement, the way you tell the story, but I remember Socrates/or Plato being very harsh to Democracy, calling it one step above tyranny as the say of a good man is held in the same worth of one that is bad. So I think you are self-inserting your opinions of his death in favor of democracy.
I'd say its the deconstructing of the capacity to enjoy less. Enjoy more by enjoying in its entirety without developing a single thing and without seeking.
Actually I believe it’s found when you develop the capacity to enjoy more! Including all of what happens to you or others around you! To love more in actions, thoughts & keep pushing upwards
@@dfredankey how can you develop something that is already complete in itself. Unless we are point at the same thing and words are getting in the way. But consciousness is already complete, doesn't need to be developed
@@whitenozze never said develop consciousness your consciousness is a Constance till you die that you cannot control. I’m saying develop your attitude and perspective in life so that every moment you have in life is of acceptance, enjoyment, gratitude of being alive and overall just happiness & peace to the highest degree!
The art and purpose of philosophy is to ask questions that don’t have answer. It is simply to think for the first time In your life about anything that dosnt have meaning to you
Philosophy when taught wrong becomes a cage around the mind of a student. And when taught properly becomes a master key that can unlock any cage society or government attempts to confine them in. I always think of the Count of Monte Cristo "Count of Christ Mountain".
Since you started reading philosophy, it automatically has meaning for you - you get something out of it. Philosophy in my view is only good to ask questions and let science consider those and think if it can 'play' with them and experiment. For me, philosophy that talks about things that don't seem to correspond to reality - often metaphysics and philosophy of mind - is useless.
I once worked for a great singer/chef who would occasionally come up to me and say "Hey do you know what your doing?" , I would often reply "Yeah, I sort of know what I am doing", & he would often reply "You don't know". Then one day I had a crazy week went to work, went straight up to him and said "I have no idea what I am doing, I know nothing". He smiled & said "Yeah now your getting it". Great video Pursuit of Wonder. Magnificent
thanks, i'd been saying for years "i don't know what i'm doing, but don't tell them (work) that, or else i won't get paid" what i was doing was learning.
There are many Zen Masters who taught the importance of keeping a "Don't Know" mind. Not "I don't know" because the "I" is still unknown, but simply "Don't Know." Other Zen Masters taught the importance of keeping a "Beginners Mind.", which is the same as Don't Know Mind. This is the problem with today's cancel culture world. Everyone's minds are closed in "thinking" they know what's right, but .... ???
The problem in Philosophy is that you cannot fully understand or teach it through words only. You need to experience it yourself. There is not enough words that can express what your mind experiences.
"There is not enough words that can express what your mind experiences." - That's why we keep making more. The possibilities of our minds are as infinite as the possibilities of language.
This is so true, and very important to discuss! I try to get this across all the time to people who are critical of certain thinkers explaining their ideas. We have to move into the realm of poetry to try to express many of these things, and unfortunately, societies current obsession with empiricism causes many to neglect a priori and other abstract thinking. We simply don't have the lexicon to describe these things, but that doesn't mean they aren't valid. We just have to use examples or word play. Just like a physicist describes like charges as "wanting" to repel each other, or "orbits" of electrons, in philosophy we have to be illustrative with our descriptions even more, while not misleading. That's what makes a great philosopher in many ways, the ability to describe these things in ways that genuinely convey the ideas. And I think the unfortunate opposite of that, is that many potentially great thinkers get imprisoned in their heads and abandon philosophy, as they struggle to describe their thoughts. Knowing an idea makes sense, but not being able to convey it to others as such is a horrible feeling and can make you doubt yourself unnecessarily. Building a good vocabulary, and one that you can use effortlessly, is very helpful. But we have to think creatively also, because words themselves often cannot do the job on their own.
@@utcsjakie language is prison or it could be the keys to the cells inside the prison in which we’re being held. It is true that they only unlock the cells and will not aide in escaping past the outermost walls. But they gave us the ability to even begin to formulate the plans needed to do so. It all depends on your perspective
Agreed. Too many male content creators try to make their voice deeper or lower for no good reason. Full expression of your natural voice is always more pleasant to listen to.
@KOVA PRO Thank you for the reference to the channel. I like his voice as well. It's not the same as Pursuit of Wonder's, but it surely is nice to listen to.
You videos in the story format are mind-blowing. The ones like 'The Nova effect' or 'Amara effect' are just amazing. I hope you make more like those. Where we have a character and a series of events take place in their life and then we actually feel like our brains were put in a blender like it happens at the end of every video. But all your videos are good and I hope you keep making content.
If I had to pick, I'd pick presentation type videos like these and the recent ones, The Jean Paul Sartre video and the desire for nothingness are my favourites. Oh, and if you like the story type videos, you might like Exurb1a.
"Perhaps by means of the very same thing that cursed humanity with the need to philosophise, we can learn through philosophy to enjoy philosphy's futility" - Such a well crafted sentence!
Instead of “I know that I know nothing”, Socrates (quoted by Plato) actually said “I do not pretend to know what I do not know” Therefore he does state that there are objective truths, but he is keenly aware of the limits of his knowledge
The more you question, the more you realize that the only answer that makes any sense is to keep questioning. When you stop questioning then the journey for truth comes to an end and stagnation, sloth, and dogmatism rule. Keep things in perspective by accepting that you know less than you think you do and keep questioning.
When science and politics don't allow you to question or discuss information it is evidence of tyranny. Unauthorized thoughts and unauthorized questions and unauthorized facts have become all too common the closer you get to elections and the virus. I wonder why that is
"The only answer that makes any sense is to keep questioning." To question forever is to learn of the infinite while to accept ignorance is to become the infinite. "When you stop questioning then the journey for truth comes to an end" Many truths have a funny way of making themselves known, especially to those who do not seek them. "Keep things in perspective" Which perspective? If one were to only question and seek the infinite then their journey would be for naught. Perspectives such as peace and mastery should not be taken for granted, they are microcosms of the infinite.
Hui muddat k Ghalib mar gaya per yaad aata hai.. woh har ik baat pe kehna k yun hota to kia hota : Ghalib. I means that the end of curiosity means the end of the journey. A journey which can only end in two ways 1- You give up 2- you keep going ... There is no end of the road or a destination when the journey is of finding the truth.
Funnily enough, when someone knows they know nothing, they actually end up knowing something. But nevertheless, this paradox is part of the charm that makes this tidbit of wisdom so intriguing.
Thank you for sharing that question at 8:40! There are people who are so confident they are out of the cave when in actuality they've merely traded one ideology for another.
One thing you can know for sure is that EVERYTHING NASA show is untrue. Everything. Allegory of the Cave. What does that mean and what is the truth? I dont know but its something to entertain your mind. Peace
@Robert Lind how can you be so sure? your arguments are likely only based off of distrust. just because many people believe nasa to be a legitimate organization doesn't mean that they are uncredible just because they are widely trusted
@@Eriksvensson4231 That is just blindly saying the same thing as in the allegory, polarizing the opposite view to provide reinforcement of your own perspective most of the times leads to the same situation you are trying to avoid. For example, state something that you believe is not true from what NASA says.
@@Eriksvensson4231 I can give you an example: If NASA says things fall downwards, this can be proven to be not untrue. Therefore, any radicalization of the situation leads to the same blindness in the cave.
Ironic considering Socrates was known to be an arrogant condescending prick to a lot of people he talked to. His arrogance was what ultimately earned him a death sentence.
@@furtywelsh3482 Well, the science of thought is literally just psychology, figuring out why people think certain things, unlike philosophy, which is more like a search for meaning behind those thoughts. And when you come up with a good philosophical question it's not through scientific calculation, it's through inspiration such as an artist uses.
I truly admire the pioneers of deep conscious thought. The level of critical thinking from first principle foundation is literally mind boggling. Speaking for myself, I find it difficult to have my own true stance on philosophy. I agree and disagree with viewpoints varyingly, but it's like I'm never the first one to reach the peak and see the sunrise. The ability to not only have self revelation but to have collective insight of such depth is on a level I can't even dictate. Great video 👍
Listening to how Plato described the Form of the tree, almost sounds like he was inadvertently touching on the same concept clarified later by Richard Feynman that he called The Path Integral, in that every tree is merely a shadow of the perfect tree.
@@dancewithme7435 It was for self-improvement. stoicism is an ancient philosophy. Have you heard of Markus Aurelius the last of the five good Emperors of Rome? Well, he basically was the most power person in the known world at his time because he was a Roman Emperor. He could have anything he wanted, all of the pleasures in the world. He chose to have none of them. Imagine the self-control needed for that. The heart of stoicism is to live with nature and not have money, power or pleasure control what makes you happy for you have no control over those things. If you want to know more about Stoicism, I have playlist of other people's videos on it on my channel if you are interested.
I believe that every person has there own path to happiness. My path is very different from my sister, mother, and brother. There isn’t just 1. We grew up in the same home with the same rules and we always saw and experienced different things in different ways. I do believe following the teachings of the Bible sets us in the right direction and we are to seek our own truth and happiness on our journey to find our purpose. We are truly happy when we find it.
I was a Christian, not anymore, but I believe the Christian bible has value to the pursuit of thinking. I think it illustrates through stories and metaphors, and allegories pretty accurately how the "day to day" and "run of the mill" world works.
Even if you don't know if you are in the "real" world yet after stepping out the cave, you know going towards it because all knowledge you had from the "real", you experienced, wasn't incorrect but incomplete. Therefore the collection go on as you seem to understand more about the collection itself through reasoning.
The video is inspiring and informative. I think of a saying: The more you learn,the more you know, the more you know that you don’t know. I knew this saying in my secondary school years, and it always reminds me to keep on learning, and when learning more, the more humble I should be.
To the *worthwhile person* seeing this, Don’t allow the past and current pains and hurts stop and define you. You’re more than a conqueror. Rise up and put yourself together. Keep pushing your future depends on it. I wish you all the best in life ❤️.
Brown's powerful talk challenges our cultural norms around perfectionism and highlights how vulnerability can actually be a strength, leading to deeper connections and a more fulfilling life. Brown's warmth and humor make this a truly engaging and impactful talk that will leave viewers feeling inspired and empowered to embrace vulnerability in their own lives.
I... I've made it~! Sir Pursuit of Wonder, I'm now a philosophy major, but I've been watching you for years. Thank you for stirring the interest, starting me asking
@@l33amv86 actually, philosophy degrees are highly sought after for jobs like lawyers and anything that reason is involved in, but I plan to work a normal job and just be quirky as hell. Like a wise old sage
It is these flaws within philosophy that makes the entire field so interesting. There is no right and no wrong; there is merely a lot of ideas, all of them valid in life.
I had terrible cellular data on my phone and could only watch these videos during break in high school on my school issued computer. I’m subbed on my phone now. This channel is great.
"Genius lays in mastering what interests you, then filling in the gaps of what you missed after. Knowing everything is not possible, so we harbor our strengths" - Israel pagan (owner of church of hidden knowledge @ FB Groups)
Meaning can put it back together. When you choose why, it falls into place, pending its inevitable deconstruction upon changing terms. Only to be rebuilt and upheld by new meaning and purpose. Friends, family are good starts but attempt to extend your purpose to the community.
I believe that this is the beginning of great wisdom. I have lots of beliefs, but I truly KNOW nothing. There is no certainty in life, about anything. As a great Author once wrote, "Everything in this book may be wrong."
I’ve only recently discovered more about Socrates and I instantly fell in love with his ideals and his questions and such. Idk why I’m just strangely obsessed and eager to learn more when I can.
“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.” - Ecclesiastes. "You do not measure the depth of the universal mystery with the neural network of a primate. Our role is not to understand but to appreciate." - T McKenna
This was later recapitulated as Nicolas of Cusa’s “learned ignorance”. I think Shakespeare said something to the effect that the wise man knows himself to be a fool. Basically, self-awareness is the key to intelligence and a lot of people have figured it out.
I'm sure many great minds have worked on the "shadows outside the cave" view of a step towards reality. what i'm looking for is any writings about looking the other direction, past the shadow inside the cave. think of it as the opposite direction, for an analogy, think the reflection from a shadow on a mirror. not to look outward, but deeper inside the cave. towards the lie, or the naivete of a child, caves in both directions, outward and in. it should be equally as valid.
"it should be equally as valid" Unfortunately this is not the case, as has been proven mathematically. Just as we can't explain algebra using only algebra, we can't explain the universe using only the universe. For more details check out Gödel's first incompleteness theorem. This is what led me to the very unsatisfying conclusion that "If we are in a simulation then it is impossible to discern the nature of said simulation without those tools being explicitly provided." What we can do is make educated guesses, but to do so is a logically slippery slope made of post hoc justifications.
@@GrimIkatsui appreciate the response, brief reading on Godel brought up this: "all mathematical statements are either provable or refutable. The 25-year-old Gödel demonstrated this was incorrect by constructing a true statement that was not provable. Maths, he announced, has its limits." i may be missing more in context, there is a ton on the subject. using the "forms" approach, what we recognize as a tree, may be broccoli. as it's shadow fits the form. (weak analogy, but i'm trying) realizing it was not, was a step closer to outside the cave. the process of unlearning misconceptions, prior absolutes, should be valid in discerning that more trees are not trees. hard to find reasonable subjects for that approach, not "why am i here" but maybe "are humans still base animals, or have advancements been made" (retrospect) sorry, not my strong suit, no need to reply, just fun thinking it over.
Philosophy = The love of knowledge. Anyone that studies true philosophy will find themselves living Plato's cave allegory time and again. 99% of the general population don't really even know what Philosophy is and only the smartest people will tell you that Socrates was right about us knowing at least almost nothing.
The veil has been lifted for me, for but a few days, and I already regret it and want to go back. I am so scared for it to be night again... I don't think I'll be sleeping for a while
Those were philosophers that questioned the processes of nature (which is why they are called the Philosophers of Nature), unlike Socrates, who was the first to question about humans and their place in society. If you want to know more, I highly suggest you to read "Sofia's World" from Jostein Gaarner.
Pre-Socratic Philosophers questioned the universe and all the things that surrounds the men. It is Socrates who started to questioned ourselves, everything about human.
I've noticed I live in a time where people obsess over money and materialistic things. And I look around and feel I dont fit in cause I honestly need almost nothing other than, food, drink, shelter. Video games. And family. I'm happy with that
One of my favorite lyrics in a song called “Friday Night a cypher”(Big Sean album) was “a kind man knows a blind man holds grudges. A wise man knows a wise man knows nothing”- Royce Da 5’9
Thank you. This talk is good food for thought.. Philosophy is a race? I think that's ours and not theirs. My philosophy asks how does it all work. How can you understand much of anything without first answering this? If all is a dream, as I suspect, then how we should live is entirely up to us. I think that our ignorance upon coming here is the whole point of being here. The mystery of life is secure whether the collective continues to disagree with itself or not, as we each think and perceive differently. Life expands upon itself even as it informs and entertains the Source of Itself. There. All is unified. Now if only science would catch up 🙂
I truly believe that we don’t know anything at all. You see, it starts from a thought which then turn into a belief. Next thing you know, it’s your reality.
Technically the first philosopher in Western History is Thales of Miletus, Aristotle regarded him as such. Thales was also influenced by Babylonian astronomy and Ancient Egyptian mathematics and religion.
Currently in a Plato class right now and one of the main takeaways is that it's hard to pin down a specific "Philosophy of Plato", such as the "theory of forms" and whatnot. Essentially throughout each dialogue you'll find lots of distinctions between ideal/real, invisible/visible, original/image, etc. but there are always examples of things that don't fit clearly within those disticntions. Plato's dialogues don't offer "proof" for "Plato's Philosophy", they are instead ideas that are brought up and disputed within the dialogue form. We can't really just assign the ideas of various characters in the dialogue to be representative of Plato, he himself is never a character that speaks in the dialogues. Therefore, there isn't any kind of dogma you could take from the dialogues, as they encourage you to continually question that very thing (dogmatic ideologies). To call "The Republic" something like "Plato's political philosophy" ignores the contradictions and issues that come up in the discussion of the "best city", such as the fact that from the outside the philosopher king appears no different than a tyrant. Otherwise, loved the video I think it's so great to bring philosophy into a more public spotlight, good work my man :)
"The first philosopher in WESTERN History...only" sounds better. Sorry, I like your content, but there were plenty philosophers and far more profound, by the time Socrates/Plato were even concieved, in the East, Especially India and nearby regions. The west always seems to forget that.
@Dexter'sstepsister lao tzu is a great one. Not exact sure of the time period but was around ancient china. His philosophy on Taoism is meant to be timeless and is supposedly used in many practices
I don't mind corrections, but including a statement like "far more profound" shows your bias, since that is an opinionated statement. "The West" does not have a memory, therefore it does not forget anything. Individuals who choose to study philosophy and only focus on Western philosophers may be considered shallow in depth or narrow in scope, however, there is a near endless amount of literature to explore when it comes to the blanket subject of "philosophy" that I think exploring strictly western philosophy as a hobby is fine, just as is exploring strictly eastern philosophy. tl;dr East vs West is not a competition.
Read along with your book and i gotta say... having the book and being like read to, made it easier to folloe along. Maybe it describe my inability to read or my lack of attention, i do enjoy the statement that you mentioned when talking about the book. It is an essay and that these essays are used to make the videos. I read what was first an idea, worked on, revised, and published, into a video format and that it was on my hands, staring at me as if was a diamond. Life is confusing and I'm naturally drawn to this and so as many have already said before me, Thank you for doing this.
As somebody who has seen what they believe is a truer form of the truth, I can promise you the questions aren't worth answering. It will not help you live happily, healthily, or with any fun. You already have the answers, just seek joy
If you have nothing that you really want in your life, spend lots of time tripping about it. The more you trip the more ideas will pop up the more creative your gonna start to get. Your subconscious mind doesn't care if your vision is trippy. It doesnt care if you dont know how to do it. When you see a thing clearly in your mind, your creative "trip mechanism" within you takes over and does the job much better than you could do it by conscious effort or willpower. A different psychedelic from a different planet every nanosecond. All sorts of dreams are possible. The human nervous system cannot tell the difference between an "actual" experience and an experience imagined vividly and in detail. Synthesize "experience," to literally create experience, and trip it, in the laboratory of our minds. A vision is a very trippy image, the most trippy image that you can come up with for yourself at this time. This vision will become like a hallucination in other peoples mind and this could be the cause of them creating extraordinary things.
While I have known of Socrates since I was a child, the thinking of Socrates has never been described to me in this way. This story of Socrates sort of reminds me of Jesus. John
Wisdom is the ability to choose the best explanatory model for a situation, while intelligence is the ability to create a model that explains some aspect of a situation. The reason saying "I know nothing" is wise is because it acknowledge our complete lack of wisdom for even the simplest situations.
Socrates is how I would describe myself, always questioning, always thinking, and always learning. What he is doing is arguing for humility, exposing arrogance, and getting people to seek truth. This is a universal problem with people, arrogance and pride. The worst part is religious people who claim to understand this idea, which Socrates promoted, that we we know little, yet religious people never seem to question the existence of god.
at 8:36 you make a great point. once we learn of our ignorance , we must assume we are still ignorant. as I like to say "finding the truth is not a lifting of the veil, it's an onion with many layers" :)
That is a good saying and it mirrors my own: Truth is known existence, and existence is only known through context. As contexts are infinite, so is Truth.
I have been one to be shunned by people because I have questioned so many things, and I thought I was in pursuit of "truth". When I lost a little dog that I loved possibly more than anything I have ever loved, I think I finally "knew" something.
"They... strive to evade justice, which they see to be painful, but are blind to the advantage which ensues from it, not knowing how far more miserable a companion a diseased soul is than a diseased body; a soul, I say, which is corrupt and unrighteous and unholy. And hence they do all that they can to avoid punishment and to avoid being released from the greatest of evils; they provide themselves with money and friends, and cultivate to the utmost their powers of persuasion." - Socrates (Gorgias)
Speak for yourself, for everyone's path is their own. I attest to knowing nothing in the Grand Scale of knowing. But to know they self is knowing the meaning of life. 🙏🏼 🔥👁️🔥
Thank you for making this video. After watching it you gave me a new understanding on how to think. It’s crazy how Plato is so known but just just known instead of his working being looked into much more often. Not saying everyone like this but for example me. I knew about Plato but never put the effort to look into his work entail I said f’ it an watched you video and learned something new today.
The paradoxical nature of the unknowable is precisely the thing that is driving me mad. I slip in and out of frivolously enjoying life to nihilistic depression over the subject. As they often in fiction poetically say “the bottle is never deep enough”.
It's the opposite for me, the not being able to get to the heart of a matter, the endless horizons and vistas encountered. Along with the pleasure of seeing "the ones who claim to know" over time be seen ultimately as fools...all of the endless searching is the juice for me.
@@stevedriscoll2539 I don’t want to patronize, BUT I’m about to say something very patronizing, lmao. The longer you live, the longer you dig, the longer you look into the abyss. The more the unexplored vistas that you have no way of reaching will taunt you. I just want to figure out whether it’s worth it to live or not. But then again “It’s not worth killing yourself, because you always kill yourself too late.” Emil Cioran. I’ve explored a lot of vistas. Most of them contradict each other, you learn one, you learn the second and think the first one is the fool, then you learn the 3rd, think the previous 2 are fools. Eventually you go full circle and your mind breaks. I’m glad you aren’t tired of philosophy yet. Yet…
@@pumpkingamebox i love it ...maybe I was patronizing you 😉. I don't know of it's worth it to live or not. But I love that quote, from Emil Cloran and I think I understand what he means. I think in one sense you are correct about not being able to attain, the plateus or vistas, however, I think there is merit in thinking alone of itself, and thinking (or maybe deluding oneself) one can be better (only by one's own definition, of course). If nothing else, it may be only a diversion if one doesn't have the nerve or wherewithal to end oneself. I relate more to that quote that you gave more than I care to admit. But, no I still love philosophy for at least two reasons: most people I meet don't, and to me there is no end to it, it seems some snotty btch. will come up with something new.
Oh, and i forgot. Sometimes we find the answers to our questions and sometimes the search itself yields completely new questions or perspectives. But if one doesn't engage how would one ever know anything?
@@stevedriscoll2539 That’s true, without engaging, nothing is known. “We argue not to change the mind of another, but to know our own.” - Abridged Alan Watts, lol I’m actually lucky in that way I have a friend that hates philosophy, but at the same time is a perfect devils advocate ready to question all my bs ramblings. Also, it’s so nice to see another Cioran Enjoyer :) The rest of what you wrote, yeah. And so I go- “Once more into the fray Into the last hood fight I’ll ever know Live and die on this day Live, and die, on this day.” - The Grey
It's kinda sad that people usually think smart people are weird because of their thinking.it's very complicated sometimes and people thought it was something else and called them crazy
Your content is so good, so no need to fill it with unnecessary background music/ noise. I enjoy listening to your channel because u don’t have the noise in your video.
The older you get the more you are humbled by how little you really know. Humility comes with breadth of experience, the joy of living, and comfort with mortality.
I’m 90% done with my BA in philosophy. I often get asked “what are you gonna do with that degree?” “You can really only be a teacher.” I have no real plans with the degree, I want to become a tattoo artist. But I have my degree payed for and I wanted to pursue something that would open my eyes to the world. I can 100% say philosophy has done that. Perspective is something a lot of people in this world lack but once you find it, it truly makes you see everything differently. I want to travel the world and experience different cultures. This degree plan has set an amazing foundation for me to continue learning in life
In studies Phil grads found to have the best writing skills, even surpassing English graduates, something to do wuth the combination of words and logic.
Maybe this is just me being a contrarian but I think tattoos have become less a symbol of identity and more a form narcissism.
Just like travel, I feel like people pursue these things in order to say they've done it.
People that walk a mile outside the resort to get their selfie.
It's not about them experiencing a culture it's about a culture experiencing them. It's not about the tattoo, it's about what other people think about that tattoo.
Narcissism is growing due to social media.
I can never know what someone's intentions are but the number of people getting tattoos seem to be more motivated by teenage-like angst; to be unique and seen.
I still think about getting a tattoo and what message I'm trying to telegraph to the world then I realize how self-aggrandizing that is.
Traveling is a wonderful thing, but whenever I ask people where they want to travel they really haven't given it much thought. They usually have a ridiculous goal like go to every country. It's not about actually traveling, it's about saying that you did it.
I want to see the Hagia Sophia before I die and maybe Argentina. I like the history and culture.
Anyways that's my two cents, I feel like philosophy people get so hung up on idealism that they will inevitably become depressed by reality. Being pragmatic and less self centered is the way to become a whole person, that's how you keep your ego in check.
Having lived in Italy and Korea, I offer only the words of Mark Twain from my favourite of his, _Innocents Abroad:_
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”
Everything else that I would say would be acquired on your own.
Bring good shoes.
Going to university is not only about learning a major to become something. I went to school and earned my sociology degree. I learned so much about life, philosophy that it was an absolute joy to learn. It wasn't my intention to become a sociologists. I went to school to learn about things I never would on my own. It was about discovery. Not about becoming anything. Today, I travel the world for similar reasons. To learn about the world. Not to become.
@@jacobjohnson2714 I really love what you wrote. I had to think deeply about it. Thank you
Just imagine being so influential that after 2000 years your ideas are still in use.
That would be horrifying....
To you in 2000 years
Unfathomable
@@XENXEl lol
Hell, you go back that far or further it’s almost a given that ANY idea would still be in use in the present. Lol
Socrates was also deeply interested in understanding the limits of human knowledge. When he was told that the Oracle at Delphi had declared that he was the wisest man in Athens, Socrates balked until he realized that, although he knew nothing, he was (unlike his fellow citizens) keenly aware of his own ignorance. He became so furious at this statement that he tried his hardest to prove the Oracle wrong, going about challenging all men thought to be wise. In his attempt to do so, he proved her right.
In 399 B.C., Socrates was accused of corrupting the youth of Athens and of impiety, or heresy. He chose to defend himself in court.
Rather than present himself as wrongly accused, Socrates declared he fulfilled an important role as a gadfly, one who provides an important service to his community by continually questioning and challenging the status quo and its defenders.
The jury was not swayed by Socrates' defense and convicted him by a vote of 280 to 221. Possibly the defiant tone of his defense contributed to the verdict and he made things worse during the deliberation over his punishment. It was in court that Socrates allegedly uttered the now-famous phrase, “the unexamined life is not worth living.”
Athenian law allowed a convicted citizen to propose an alternative punishment to the one called for by the prosecution and the jury would decide. Instead of proposing he be exiled, Socrates suggested he be honored by the city for his contribution to their enlightenment and be paid for his services.
The jury was not amused and sentenced him to death by drinking a mixture of poison hemlock.
Before Socrates' execution, friends offered to bribe the guards and rescue him so he could flee into exile.
He declined, stating he wasn't afraid of death, felt he would be no better off if in exile and said he was still a loyal citizen of Athens, willing to abide by its laws, even the ones that condemned him to death. He knew that he could either die in the streets alone as an old man, or for his beliefs.
Socrates described his death as a release of the soul from the body.
Thanks for this. Great read. Can I ask how you know all this? Anything specific or just having studied a collection of works?
I believe thoughts and ideas are outside of us and that our brain functions like an organic computer processor.
@@idontknowyetwhoiam I cannot post the sources as UA-cam DELETES them automatically....
Some of them include sites such as world history/history/stanford-encyclopedia-of-philosophy... just type them with the dotcom in the end and add the word Socrates.
I am also born in Greece and we learn about the Trial and Death of Socrates by Plato in school. Needless to say that he is my favourite philosopher.
Welcome to 2022, where sources are being deleted..... SMH
@@mikewhocheeseharry5292 you may find interesting Robert Epstein’s “transducer” theory. He proposes an alternative view of the brain instead of it being a computer.
I don't mind the drama in your statement, the way you tell the story, but I remember Socrates/or Plato being very harsh to Democracy, calling it one step above tyranny as the say of a good man is held in the same worth of one that is bad. So I think you are self-inserting your opinions of his death in favor of democracy.
The secret of happiness, you see, is not found in seeking more, but in developing the capacity to enjoy less
I'd say its the deconstructing of the capacity to enjoy less. Enjoy more by enjoying in its entirety without developing a single thing and without seeking.
Actually I believe it’s found when you develop the capacity to enjoy more! Including all of what happens to you or others around you! To love more in actions, thoughts & keep pushing upwards
@@dfredankey how can you develop something that is already complete in itself. Unless we are point at the same thing and words are getting in the way. But consciousness is already complete, doesn't need to be developed
Well said!
@@whitenozze never said develop consciousness your consciousness is a Constance till you die that you cannot control. I’m saying develop your attitude and perspective in life so that every moment you have in life is of acceptance, enjoyment, gratitude of being alive and overall just happiness & peace to the highest degree!
"A great mind shut down for asking too many questions" a lovely tradition that is alive and well in 2022...
China Syndrome, Core meltdown! Still Happens! True!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@gabrielmcollazo6675 take your meds
Don't ask questions about what happened between 1939 to 1945 lol
weird how you ask about how a smoke stack isnt connected to a building you get shut down 🤔
what
The art and purpose of philosophy is to ask questions that don’t have answer. It is simply to think for the first time In your life about anything that dosnt have meaning to you
but it's even more efficient if we apply philosophy in life, to obtain better results for other people and for ourselves
No, that just plain thinking. Philosophy is thinking about process of thinking (why we think what we think).
@@andreya9776 hahahaha we are both correct have my fun my friend
Philosophy when taught wrong becomes a cage around the mind of a student. And when taught properly becomes a master key that can unlock any cage society or government attempts to confine them in. I always think of the Count of Monte Cristo "Count of Christ Mountain".
Since you started reading philosophy, it automatically has meaning for you - you get something out of it.
Philosophy in my view is only good to ask questions and let science consider those and think if it can 'play' with them and experiment. For me, philosophy that talks about things that don't seem to correspond to reality - often metaphysics and philosophy of mind - is useless.
The analogy about the blocks at the end was great🙌🏼 amazing video
I too found it too great.
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I once worked for a great singer/chef who would occasionally come up to me and say "Hey do you know what your doing?" , I would often reply "Yeah, I sort of know what I am doing", & he would often reply "You don't know". Then one day I had a crazy week went to work, went straight up to him and said "I have no idea what I am doing, I know nothing". He smiled & said "Yeah now your getting it". Great video Pursuit of Wonder. Magnificent
thanks, i'd been saying for years "i don't know what i'm doing, but don't tell them (work) that, or else i won't get paid"
what i was doing was learning.
There are many Zen Masters who taught the importance of keeping a "Don't Know" mind. Not "I don't know" because the "I" is still unknown, but simply "Don't Know." Other Zen Masters taught the importance of keeping a "Beginners Mind.", which is the same as Don't Know Mind. This is the problem with today's cancel culture world. Everyone's minds are closed in "thinking" they know what's right, but .... ???
@@fcmiller3 nicely said Fred
Who knows?
Me explaining to my parents why I failed the exam:
*"The only true wisdom, is knowing you know nothing"*
Excellent 👏🏽🌞
broo you're a genius
😂
The problem in Philosophy is that you cannot fully understand or teach it through words only. You need to experience it yourself. There is not enough words that can express what your mind experiences.
"There is not enough words that can express what your mind experiences."
- That's why we keep making more. The possibilities of our minds are as infinite as the possibilities of language.
Language is prison.
@@utcsjakie words are like seeds that grow inside your mind
This is so true, and very important to discuss! I try to get this across all the time to people who are critical of certain thinkers explaining their ideas. We have to move into the realm of poetry to try to express many of these things, and unfortunately, societies current obsession with empiricism causes many to neglect a priori and other abstract thinking. We simply don't have the lexicon to describe these things, but that doesn't mean they aren't valid. We just have to use examples or word play. Just like a physicist describes like charges as "wanting" to repel each other, or "orbits" of electrons, in philosophy we have to be illustrative with our descriptions even more, while not misleading.
That's what makes a great philosopher in many ways, the ability to describe these things in ways that genuinely convey the ideas. And I think the unfortunate opposite of that, is that many potentially great thinkers get imprisoned in their heads and abandon philosophy, as they struggle to describe their thoughts. Knowing an idea makes sense, but not being able to convey it to others as such is a horrible feeling and can make you doubt yourself unnecessarily.
Building a good vocabulary, and one that you can use effortlessly, is very helpful. But we have to think creatively also, because words themselves often cannot do the job on their own.
@@utcsjakie language is prison or it could be the keys to the cells inside the prison in which we’re being held. It is true that they only unlock the cells and will not aide in escaping past the outermost walls. But they gave us the ability to even begin to formulate the plans needed to do so.
It all depends on your perspective
I still love this voice, it's the best one I've heard. Neutral, yet deep and expressive.
Agreed. Too many male content creators try to make their voice deeper or lower for no good reason. Full expression of your natural voice is always more pleasant to listen to.
@@Jefrejtor Exactly. I also admire the tone in which he speaks, it's not as dramatic (and maybe annoying) as the other 'voiceover voices' I've heard.
@KOVA PRO Thank you for the reference to the channel. I like his voice as well. It's not the same as Pursuit of Wonder's, but it surely is nice to listen to.
check out exturb1a for another awesome voice
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You videos in the story format are mind-blowing. The ones like 'The Nova effect' or 'Amara effect' are just amazing. I hope you make more like those. Where we have a character and a series of events take place in their life and then we actually feel like our brains were put in a blender like it happens at the end of every video. But all your videos are good and I hope you keep making content.
If I had to pick, I'd pick presentation type videos like these and the recent ones, The Jean Paul Sartre video and the desire for nothingness are my favourites.
Oh, and if you like the story type videos, you might like Exurb1a.
"Perhaps by means of the very same thing that cursed humanity with the need to philosophise, we can learn through philosophy to enjoy philosphy's futility" - Such a well crafted sentence!
And I have no idea what that means
Instead of “I know that I know nothing”,
Socrates (quoted by Plato) actually said “I do not pretend to know what I do not know”
Therefore he does state that there are objective truths, but he is keenly aware of the limits of his knowledge
To be successful, you have to Know what you do know & more importantly KNOW what you don’t know .🧐
The more you question, the more you realize that the only answer that makes any sense is to keep questioning. When you stop questioning then the journey for truth comes to an end and stagnation, sloth, and dogmatism rule. Keep things in perspective by accepting that you know less than you think you do and keep questioning.
When science and politics don't allow you to question or discuss information it is evidence of tyranny. Unauthorized thoughts and unauthorized questions and unauthorized facts have become all too common the closer you get to elections and the virus. I wonder why that is
"The only answer that makes any sense is to keep questioning."
To question forever is to learn of the infinite while to accept ignorance is to become the infinite.
"When you stop questioning then the journey for truth comes to an end"
Many truths have a funny way of making themselves known, especially to those who do not seek them.
"Keep things in perspective"
Which perspective? If one were to only question and seek the infinite then their journey would be for naught.
Perspectives such as peace and mastery should not be taken for granted, they are microcosms of the infinite.
Hui muddat k Ghalib mar gaya per yaad aata hai.. woh har ik baat pe kehna k yun hota to kia hota : Ghalib. I means that the end of curiosity means the end of the journey. A journey which can only end in two ways 1- You give up 2- you keep going ... There is no end of the road or a destination when the journey is of finding the truth.
Love this perspective, absolutely agree
This sounds dogmatic. Hopefully you're open to answers besides "keep questioning" or else it seems you've stopped questioning.
Funnily enough, when someone knows they know nothing, they actually end up knowing something. But nevertheless, this paradox is part of the charm that makes this tidbit of wisdom so intriguing.
Thank you for sharing that question at 8:40! There are people who are so confident they are out of the cave when in actuality they've merely traded one ideology for another.
One thing you can know for sure is that EVERYTHING NASA show is untrue. Everything. Allegory of the Cave.
What does that mean and what is the truth? I dont know but its something to entertain your mind. Peace
@Robert Lind how can you be so sure? your arguments are likely only based off of distrust. just because many people believe nasa to be a legitimate organization doesn't mean that they are uncredible just because they are widely trusted
@@Eriksvensson4231 That is just blindly saying the same thing as in the allegory, polarizing the opposite view to provide reinforcement of your own perspective most of the times leads to the same situation you are trying to avoid. For example, state something that you believe is not true from what NASA says.
@@Eriksvensson4231 I can give you an example: If NASA says things fall downwards, this can be proven to be not untrue. Therefore, any radicalization of the situation leads to the same blindness in the cave.
“socrates found that most men claiming to be wise were just arrogant” still true, bestie
Ironic considering Socrates was known to be an arrogant condescending prick to a lot of people he talked to. His arrogance was what ultimately earned him a death sentence.
@@TheTGOAC so he was just talking about himself them
Philosophy is not the science of thought. It's the art of questioning.
A mind is not for to be filled but to be lit ! That's why is the art of questioning. Questioning lites it!
@@furtywelsh3482 Well, the science of thought is literally just psychology, figuring out why people think certain things, unlike philosophy, which is more like a search for meaning behind those thoughts.
And when you come up with a good philosophical question it's not through scientific calculation, it's through inspiration such as an artist uses.
Similar to Feynman's quote, "Science is the satisfactory philosophy of ignorance."
I know it may be a reach but maybe the Love of wisdom.
Thank you for the work you do, and the impact you make!
I truly admire the pioneers of deep conscious thought. The level of critical thinking from first principle foundation is literally mind boggling. Speaking for myself, I find it difficult to have my own true stance on philosophy. I agree and disagree with viewpoints varyingly, but it's like I'm never the first one to reach the peak and see the sunrise. The ability to not only have self revelation but to have collective insight of such depth is on a level I can't even dictate. Great video 👍
Nobody's special these ideas we're always here and you just gotta take a seat.
@@grigoriyefimovichrasputin7897 are you speaking as a random UA-camr or as mystical advisor? 😂😂
Philosophy is the only way you can think to move forward... Question everything. Never stop asking question
Listening to how Plato described the Form of the tree, almost sounds like he was inadvertently touching on the same concept clarified later by Richard Feynman that he called The Path Integral, in that every tree is merely a shadow of the perfect tree.
You don't love tree, you love the idea of tree!
Lmao! Nice one
I just got into stoicism, and I have been watching your channel for a long time now, so this video seemed like perfect timing for me thanks
What got you interested in stoicism ? Is stoicism a actual religion ?
@@dancewithme7435 It was for self-improvement. stoicism is an ancient philosophy. Have you heard of Markus Aurelius the last of the five good Emperors of Rome? Well, he basically was the most power person in the known world at his time because he was a Roman Emperor. He could have anything he wanted, all of the pleasures in the world. He chose to have none of them. Imagine the self-control needed for that. The heart of stoicism is to live with nature and not have money, power or pleasure control what makes you happy for you have no control over those things. If you want to know more about Stoicism, I have playlist of other people's videos on it on my channel if you are interested.
@@dancewithme7435 but also my playlist has other stuff in it too so just warning that it is not all stoicism
@@thenegotiator6338 damn bro this is some deep shit
@@thenegotiator6338 wow
I believe that every person has there own path to happiness. My path is very different from my sister, mother, and brother. There isn’t just 1. We grew up in the same home with the same rules and we always saw and experienced different things in different ways. I do believe following the teachings of the Bible sets us in the right direction and we are to seek our own truth and happiness on our journey to find our purpose. We are truly happy when we find it.
Well said
I was a Christian, not anymore, but I believe the Christian bible has value to the pursuit of thinking. I think it illustrates through stories and metaphors, and allegories pretty accurately how the "day to day" and "run of the mill" world works.
Can you please put all your videos in a playlist, if you have time. Your videos and voice is relaxing to me and I like to fall asleep to them.
Even if you don't know if you are in the "real" world yet after stepping out the cave, you know going towards it because all knowledge you had from the "real", you experienced, wasn't incorrect but incomplete. Therefore the collection go on as you seem to understand more about the collection itself through reasoning.
The video is inspiring and informative. I think of a saying: The more you learn,the more you know, the more you know that you don’t know. I knew this saying in my secondary school years, and it always reminds me to keep on learning, and when learning more, the more humble I should be.
To the *worthwhile person* seeing this, Don’t allow the past and current pains and hurts stop and define you. You’re more than a conqueror. Rise up and put yourself together. Keep pushing your future depends on it. I wish you all the best in life ❤️.
What the fuck?
Brown's powerful talk challenges our cultural norms around perfectionism and highlights how vulnerability can actually be a strength, leading to deeper connections and a more fulfilling life. Brown's warmth and humor make this a truly engaging and impactful talk that will leave viewers feeling inspired and empowered to embrace vulnerability in their own lives.
This video really gets my mind racing. Thank you for the great content!
The man who called out arrogance and ignorance in leaders was killed by arrogant and ignorant leaders.
Sounds like a very legit story, tbh.
I... I've made it~! Sir Pursuit of Wonder, I'm now a philosophy major, but I've been watching you for years. Thank you for stirring the interest, starting me asking
What are you going to do with your major ?
congrats bro! wish you the best!
@@hugostiglitz491 sadly in the modern world there literally is nothing you can do but if you love you you do it as a minor 😂
@@l33amv86 actually, philosophy degrees are highly sought after for jobs like lawyers and anything that reason is involved in, but I plan to work a normal job and just be quirky as hell. Like a wise old sage
@@deathbyfun6585 you can teach jiu jitsu like John Danaher
This is my favourite channel, it’s so awesome and educational and interesting, and, and, and!! Thank you so much for sharing your time with us!
It is these flaws within philosophy that makes the entire field so interesting. There is no right and no wrong; there is merely a lot of ideas, all of them valid in life.
Replicate is the art of thought and analysis at a stratospheric level! Nothing exceeds like excess!
I had terrible cellular data on my phone and could only watch these videos during break in high school on my school issued computer. I’m subbed on my phone now. This channel is great.
"Genius lays in mastering what interests you, then filling in the gaps of what you missed after. Knowing everything is not possible, so we harbor our strengths" - Israel pagan (owner of church of hidden knowledge @ FB Groups)
Your words have wisdom and they teach me to be humble and learn ❤️💯
Meaning can put it back together. When you choose why, it falls into place, pending its inevitable deconstruction upon changing terms. Only to be rebuilt and upheld by new meaning and purpose. Friends, family are good starts but attempt to extend your purpose to the community.
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I believe that this is the beginning of great wisdom. I have lots of beliefs, but I truly KNOW nothing. There is no certainty in life, about anything. As a great Author once wrote, "Everything in this book may be wrong."
Thanks for all the entertaining, thought provoking and calming, videos.
I’ve only recently discovered more about Socrates and I instantly fell in love with his ideals and his questions and such. Idk why I’m just strangely obsessed and eager to learn more when I can.
*Socrates; one of the historical critically-thinking figures far beyond from his time*
In my mind its not that he started the fire these philosophy's were always here.
“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.” - Ecclesiastes.
"You do not measure the depth of the universal mystery with the neural network of a primate. Our role is not to understand but to appreciate." - T McKenna
Love the content man always killing it!
Not in doing what you like but in liking what you do is the secret to happiness -JM Barrie
This was later recapitulated as Nicolas of Cusa’s “learned ignorance”. I think Shakespeare said something to the effect that the wise man knows himself to be a fool. Basically, self-awareness is the key to intelligence and a lot of people have figured it out.
wondering through greece, and living your life somewhat freely sounds beautiful in of itself.
I'm sure many great minds have worked on the "shadows outside the cave" view of a step towards reality.
what i'm looking for is any writings about looking the other direction, past the shadow inside the cave.
think of it as the opposite direction, for an analogy, think the reflection from a shadow on a mirror. not to look outward, but deeper inside the cave. towards the lie, or the naivete of a child, caves in both directions, outward and in. it should be equally as valid.
"it should be equally as valid"
Unfortunately this is not the case, as has been proven mathematically. Just as we can't explain algebra using only algebra, we can't explain the universe using only the universe. For more details check out Gödel's first incompleteness theorem. This is what led me to the very unsatisfying conclusion that "If we are in a simulation then it is impossible to discern the nature of said simulation without those tools being explicitly provided." What we can do is make educated guesses, but to do so is a logically slippery slope made of post hoc justifications.
@@GrimIkatsui appreciate the response, brief reading on Godel brought up this: "all mathematical statements are either provable or refutable. The 25-year-old Gödel demonstrated this was incorrect by constructing a true statement that was not provable. Maths, he announced, has its limits." i may be missing more in context, there is a ton on the subject.
using the "forms" approach, what we recognize as a tree, may be broccoli. as it's shadow fits the form. (weak analogy, but i'm trying) realizing it was not, was a step closer to outside the cave.
the process of unlearning misconceptions, prior absolutes, should be valid in discerning that more trees are not trees.
hard to find reasonable subjects for that approach, not "why am i here" but maybe "are humans still base animals, or have advancements been made" (retrospect)
sorry, not my strong suit, no need to reply, just fun thinking it over.
I love your content, it always pop up when I most need, and now in some sense you saved me from another crisis
I’m taking Philosophy this semester and had to read about these people today, what a coincidence
Philosophy = The love of knowledge.
Anyone that studies true philosophy will find themselves living Plato's cave allegory time and again. 99% of the general population don't really even know what Philosophy is and only the smartest people will tell you that Socrates was right about us knowing at least almost nothing.
There is no such thing as a coincidence, dont sleep on the power of ur mind. 🤙🏽
The veil has been lifted for me, for but a few days, and I already regret it and want to go back. I am so scared for it to be night again... I don't think I'll be sleeping for a while
Wait, what about the pre - socratics like Thales of Miletus?
yeah was also thinking Socrates wasn't necessarily the first, but definitely one of the most well known of the early philosophers
Those were philosophers that questioned the processes of nature (which is why they are called the Philosophers of Nature), unlike Socrates, who was the first to question about humans and their place in society. If you want to know more, I highly suggest you to read "Sofia's World" from Jostein Gaarner.
Pre-Socratic Philosophers questioned the universe and all the things that surrounds the men. It is Socrates who started to questioned ourselves, everything about human.
@A bot Ohh I see, thanks for clarifying
@@adoboarchives4738 Ohh, thank you for the clarification
Great words beautyfully put together and incredible analogy with the blocks at the end!!
And I can agree with all that has been said in this video, because I am reading the book "Sofia's World" from Jostein Gaarner.
Book was hard to read, but very interesting
I've noticed I live in a time where people obsess over money and materialistic things. And I look around and feel I dont fit in cause I honestly need almost nothing other than, food, drink, shelter. Video games. And family. I'm happy with that
It wasn't really cut short. Socrates had around 70 years at the time of his death. It was calculated risk according to many.
I usually wait to watch these videos before bed, but not this time, couldn't bother to wait.
One of my favorite lyrics in a song called “Friday Night a cypher”(Big Sean album) was “a kind man knows a blind man holds grudges. A wise man knows a wise man knows nothing”- Royce Da 5’9
Thank you. This talk is good food for thought..
Philosophy is a race? I think that's ours and not theirs.
My philosophy asks how does it all work. How can you understand much of anything without first answering this?
If all is a dream, as I suspect, then how we should live is entirely up to us.
I think that our ignorance upon coming here is the whole point of being here.
The mystery of life is secure whether the collective continues to disagree with itself or not, as we each think and perceive differently.
Life expands upon itself even as it informs and entertains the Source of Itself.
There. All is unified. Now if only science would catch up 🙂
I truly believe that we don’t know anything at all. You see, it starts from a thought which then turn into a belief. Next thing you know, it’s your reality.
Perhaps we have beliefs to keep sane.
My guys ❤️ If only people could understand. Religion would be obsolete..
Agreed. Hope one day that happens.
I appreciate your time and effort sir. This video really help me during this time.
With the title you seem to suggest that a real philosopher admits that he don't know anything. That is why Socrates is the first philosopher.
That's a better title than the first one, good job :)
Technically the first philosopher in Western History is Thales of Miletus, Aristotle regarded him as such. Thales was also influenced by Babylonian astronomy and
Ancient Egyptian mathematics
and religion.
In this fashion he opened his lips (only) to say
"I know not";
he made a tune of
"I know not, I know not."
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Lol first philospher ! 😂🤣
You Killed it with the Blocks!!
First *Western* philosopher..
Or not even that..
Currently in a Plato class right now and one of the main takeaways is that it's hard to pin down a specific "Philosophy of Plato", such as the "theory of forms" and whatnot.
Essentially throughout each dialogue you'll find lots of distinctions between ideal/real, invisible/visible, original/image, etc. but there are always examples of things that don't fit clearly within those disticntions. Plato's dialogues don't offer "proof" for "Plato's Philosophy", they are instead ideas that are brought up and disputed within the dialogue form. We can't really just assign the ideas of various characters in the dialogue to be representative of Plato, he himself is never a character that speaks in the dialogues. Therefore, there isn't any kind of dogma you could take from the dialogues, as they encourage you to continually question that very thing (dogmatic ideologies). To call "The Republic" something like "Plato's political philosophy" ignores the contradictions and issues that come up in the discussion of the "best city", such as the fact that from the outside the philosopher king appears no different than a tyrant.
Otherwise, loved the video I think it's so great to bring philosophy into a more public spotlight, good work my man :)
"The first philosopher in WESTERN History...only" sounds better. Sorry, I like your content, but there were plenty philosophers and far more profound, by the time Socrates/Plato were even concieved, in the East, Especially India and nearby regions. The west always seems to forget that.
@Dexter'sstepsister lao tzu is a great one. Not exact sure of the time period but was around ancient china. His philosophy on Taoism is meant to be timeless and is supposedly used in many practices
How can you forget buddha mann
I don't mind corrections, but including a statement like "far more profound" shows your bias, since that is an opinionated statement. "The West" does not have a memory, therefore it does not forget anything. Individuals who choose to study philosophy and only focus on Western philosophers may be considered shallow in depth or narrow in scope, however, there is a near endless amount of literature to explore when it comes to the blanket subject of "philosophy" that I think exploring strictly western philosophy as a hobby is fine, just as is exploring strictly eastern philosophy.
tl;dr East vs West is not a competition.
The blocks analogy was greatt
"The first philospher in history" 🙃 Will your next video be on how Jesus discovered America? Is the Earth flat and 5000 years old too?
This video looked very beautiful to me. I love the editing it looks so good.
Your western chauvinism is showing with that title
Read along with your book and i gotta say... having the book and being like read to, made it easier to folloe along. Maybe it describe my inability to read or my lack of attention, i do enjoy the statement that you mentioned when talking about the book. It is an essay and that these essays are used to make the videos. I read what was first an idea, worked on, revised, and published, into a video format and that it was on my hands, staring at me as if was a diamond. Life is confusing and I'm naturally drawn to this and so as many have already said before me, Thank you for doing this.
Socrates: What, Lysimachus, are you going to accept the opinion of the majority?
Lysimachus: Why, yes, Socrates; what else am I to do?
As somebody who has seen what they believe is a truer form of the truth, I can promise you the questions aren't worth answering. It will not help you live happily, healthily, or with any fun. You already have the answers, just seek joy
If you have nothing that you really want in your life, spend lots of time tripping about it. The more you trip the more ideas will pop up the more creative your gonna start to get. Your subconscious mind doesn't care if your vision is trippy. It doesnt care if you dont know how to do it.
When you see a thing clearly in your mind, your creative "trip mechanism" within you takes over and does the job much better than you could do it by conscious effort or willpower.
A different psychedelic from a different planet every nanosecond.
All sorts of dreams are possible.
The human nervous system cannot tell the difference between an "actual" experience and an experience imagined vividly and in detail.
Synthesize "experience," to literally create experience, and trip it, in the laboratory of our minds.
A vision is a very trippy image, the most trippy image that you can come up with for yourself at this time. This vision will become like a hallucination in other peoples mind and this could be the cause of them creating extraordinary things.
Good stuff, but then, from you, I should expect nothing less 😉
While I have known of Socrates since I was a child, the thinking of Socrates has never been described to me in this way. This story of Socrates sort of reminds me of Jesus.
John
Wisdom is the ability to choose the best explanatory model for a situation, while intelligence is the ability to create a model that explains some aspect of a situation. The reason saying "I know nothing" is wise is because it acknowledge our complete lack of wisdom for even the simplest situations.
Socrates is how I would describe myself, always questioning, always thinking, and always learning. What he is doing is arguing for humility, exposing arrogance, and getting people to seek truth. This is a universal problem with people, arrogance and pride. The worst part is religious people who claim to understand this idea, which Socrates promoted, that we we know little, yet religious people never seem to question the existence of god.
I really enjoyed this one. Love your content.
at 8:36 you make a great point. once we learn of our ignorance , we must assume we are still ignorant. as I like to say "finding the truth is not a lifting of the veil, it's an onion with many layers" :)
That is a good saying and it mirrors my own: Truth is known existence, and existence is only known through context. As contexts are infinite, so is Truth.
I have been one to be shunned by people because I have questioned so many things, and I thought I was in pursuit of "truth". When I lost a little dog that I loved possibly more than anything I have ever loved, I think I finally "knew" something.
This can all be summed up by the dunning Krueger effect. It is a beautiful realization of what knowledge is and it’s different stages.
Bro you knocked it out the ball park once again! Excellent video
"They... strive to evade justice, which they see to be painful, but are blind to the advantage which ensues from it, not knowing how far more miserable a companion a diseased soul is than a diseased body; a soul, I say, which is corrupt and unrighteous and unholy. And hence they do all that they can to avoid punishment and to avoid being released from the greatest of evils; they provide themselves with money and friends, and cultivate to the utmost their powers of persuasion."
- Socrates (Gorgias)
Speak for yourself, for everyone's path is their own. I attest to knowing nothing in the Grand Scale of knowing. But to know they self is knowing the meaning of life. 🙏🏼
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It helps to take note of the aim of your questions, for it is that which is actually relevant, not the question itself.
Thank you for making this video. After watching it you gave me a new understanding on how to think. It’s crazy how Plato is so known but just just known instead of his working being looked into much more often. Not saying everyone like this but for example me. I knew about Plato but never put the effort to look into his work entail I said f’ it an watched you video and learned something new today.
The paradoxical nature of the unknowable is precisely the thing that is driving me mad. I slip in and out of frivolously enjoying life to nihilistic depression over the subject.
As they often in fiction poetically say “the bottle is never deep enough”.
It's the opposite for me, the not being able to get to the heart of a matter, the endless horizons and vistas encountered. Along with the pleasure of seeing "the ones who claim to know" over time be seen ultimately as fools...all of the endless searching is the juice for me.
@@stevedriscoll2539 I don’t want to patronize, BUT I’m about to say something very patronizing, lmao.
The longer you live, the longer you dig, the longer you look into the abyss. The more the unexplored vistas that you have no way of reaching will taunt you. I just want to figure out whether it’s worth it to live or not. But then again “It’s not worth killing yourself, because you always kill yourself too late.” Emil Cioran.
I’ve explored a lot of vistas. Most of them contradict each other, you learn one, you learn the second and think the first one is the fool, then you learn the 3rd, think the previous 2 are fools. Eventually you go full circle and your mind breaks.
I’m glad you aren’t tired of philosophy yet. Yet…
@@pumpkingamebox i love it ...maybe I was patronizing you 😉. I don't know of it's worth it to live or not. But I love that quote, from Emil Cloran and I think I understand what he means. I think in one sense you are correct about not being able to attain, the plateus or vistas, however, I think there is merit in thinking alone of itself, and thinking (or maybe deluding oneself) one can be better (only by one's own definition, of course). If nothing else, it may be only a diversion if one doesn't have the nerve or wherewithal to end oneself. I relate more to that quote that you gave more than I care to admit. But, no I still love philosophy for at least two reasons: most people I meet don't, and to me there is no end to it, it seems some snotty btch. will come up with something new.
Oh, and i forgot. Sometimes we find the answers to our questions and sometimes the search itself yields completely new questions or perspectives. But if one doesn't engage how would one ever know anything?
@@stevedriscoll2539 That’s true, without engaging, nothing is known.
“We argue not to change the mind of another, but to know our own.” - Abridged Alan Watts, lol
I’m actually lucky in that way I have a friend that hates philosophy, but at the same time is a perfect devils advocate ready to question all my bs ramblings.
Also, it’s so nice to see another Cioran Enjoyer :)
The rest of what you wrote, yeah. And so I go-
“Once more into the fray
Into the last hood fight I’ll ever know
Live and die on this day
Live, and die, on this day.” - The Grey
It's kinda sad that people usually think smart people are weird because of their thinking.it's very complicated sometimes and people thought it was something else and called them crazy
More like, we don’t know everything. That’s wisdom and humility.
But it's also not letting that discourage you from seeking knowledge but, rather, use it as a motivation to know more.
Actually, the problem is that we know much more then we give ourselves credit for, and are too afraid to speak up. That it the real problem.
Your content is so good, so no need to fill it with unnecessary background music/ noise. I enjoy listening to your channel because u don’t have the noise in your video.
The older you get the more you are humbled by how little you really know. Humility comes with breadth of experience, the joy of living, and comfort with mortality.