I've Driven My Ford F-150 Lightning 15,000 Miles. Here's The Good And The Bad.
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- I've owned my 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning for 16 months and have driven it 15,000 miles.
In this video, I'll talk about my ownership experiences and explain the things I like and the things I don't like as much about the vehicle.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:34 My energy use efficiency over 15,000 miles
02:47 How much does it cost to charge the Lightning?
06:15 I compare the cost to charge the Lightning to a 3.5L Turbo V6 F-150
08:36 Towing, hauling, and the mega power frunk
10:07 The build quality of the Lightning
10:48 OTA updates adding features and improvements
12:43 The Lightning's power, driving experience, preconditioning, and the regen coach
14:38 Pro power onboard and Ford Intelligent backup power
17:04 The panoramic glass roof, the power tailgate with step, and center console
19:22 Hands Free Blue Cruise
21:44 Charging the Lightning
24:37 Is the Lightning for everybody?
25:49 The things I would like Ford to improve upon
31:28 The weak spring in the center armrest
33:08 Summary
34:36 Outro
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I’ve got 18,500 miles on mine in 11 months. Greatest vehicle I’ve ever owned absolutely love it. Here in Ontario we have ultra low rate at 2.4 ¢/kWh cost about $1.80 to “fill up”.
I was just shocked at him saying $0.14-15!!! I don’t have as low a rate as you- I pay $0.07. For me to go 20 miles it costs $0.70, and for my husband to take his Honda Pilot 20 miles it costs a gallon of gas- currently $3.39 here.
@@amandaadler1860 My VW Jetta gets 50 mpg. It's nearly as efficient as an EV.
Congratulations😒@@andrewjackson5127
@@andrewjackson5127 that’s nice. It can’t hold 3 car seats and tow my UTV and mower, go down my unplowed dirt road in MN winters, and haul all my sheets of plywood and lumber from the hardware store. But I’m glad your Jetta allows you to buy less gas.
@@andrewjackson5127The Jetta is an exceptionally efficient car, for ICE. But still, a typical EV the size of a Jetta would get over 110 MPGe. That's more than twice as efficient.
If we compare your exceptionally efficient ICE car to an exceptionally efficient EV, we find that the Tesla Model 3 Standard Range gets 142 MPGe. That's "nearly" three times as efficient.
10,000 on my Lightning Pro. Absolutely love it. Works perfect for my needs.
Really. Wow. One of my clients had one and ended up giving it back to Ford. He loved it at first too, until the inconveniences became to great to ignore.
@@Kismetixthe inconvenience being the range?
@@cassysamel3914 He had a hard time finding recharging stations between Calgary and Revelstoke. When he did find one, it was often out of service or occupied. Some of the enroute charge station operators were also charging far more than what he was paying for charging at home, making the savings over an ICE equivalent vehicle questionable.
@@cassysamel3914 um the inconvenience of not being able to tow anything or use it as a truck duh wtf how does this bullshit even exist PLEASE DONT VOTE FOR BIDEN .... real life not some shit you cant see lmao... ITS JUST MORONIC AT THIS POINT
This is the only EV transport channel that I remain subscribed to. Fair and informative reviews without resorting to name-calling of fossil fuel-powered vehicles are important to me. Keep up the good work.
Thank you. I will always offer honest content. I may be wrong at times, but you can be sure it's my honest opinion.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughneyDon’t go changin, Tom!
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney state of shill battey exploding vehicles bev are trash
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney bu you pas under the fast charging infrastructure to charge your Lightning and only talking about for complaints the speed at what Ford aloud the kilowatt hours.
Whit your 10 thousands miles what was your honest opinion regarding using the public fast charging outside TESLA?
As I mentioned in the video, I don't need to use public infrastructure often. With 300 miles of range I rarely need to use fast chargers. The times that I did take road trips, I never had a problem, However, I know there are serious issues and infrastructure needs to (and will) improve dramatically in the next 5-7 years.
Cannot wait for the Heatpump version and better charging on the F150 Lightening!
The sound quality in this video is amazing considering you were traveling along highways and country roads.
Awesome video Tom.
That's because the cabin is so quiet!
I love the long term review! You have a unique perspective because you have owned it from nearly the beginning of launch. This gives a lot more insight than the one week reviews. This is my dream truck I hope to own one day. For now I will live vicariously through these lightning videos! Thank you!
Well said! I’m doing the same 😂
Same, although if they eventually make a Ranger or even Maverick size EV I would prefer that.
Man time flies, It's been a year already?! Great video as always Tom.
There will be nacs to ccs adaptors but I’m with you. Id rather nacs from the factory.. the only issue will be where the charge port is.. on V2/V3 superchargers it’s a tight fit or block chargers
i’ve driven 21,000 miles in my lightning since March 2023. I absolutely love my Lightning Lariat extended range. This is the first EV I have ever owned and I can’t wait to see what Ford does with the T3. Great job on your video Tom. I love your channel. Keep up the good work.
Whats the T3?
Same here my first EV, (but 7th F150) 24,000 miles since January 2023. Absolutely amazing vehicle.
Ford's code name for it's next truck, Trust the Truck @@xxZerosumxx
Whats the t3 precious eh?
How is the experience with the fast charging public network itself?
36,000+ miles on my E Transit since I picked it up last June. Was considering the Lightning but decided to stick with a cargo van for my detailing business, been solid so far, only issues have been with the 360° camera giving a blue screen
I just passed 15k and my experience is about the same as yours. I love my Lightning
Do you home charger and/or have to use a commercial road side charger frequently? Those roadside charging stations can greatly increase the cost of a recharge so much that there is no cost advantage over an ICE equivalent.
@@Kismetix Primarily home charge, I have a very favorable electric rate .08 per KWH. Have taken road trips totaling about 3000 miles, you are right it can be pricey, but it is still cheaper than my previous Silverado.
God I LOVE that panoramic moon roof! That is the one thing I wanted, but we couldn't pass on the price of our Lariat, and it didn't have one. Oh well, you win some, you lose some.
That is the one thing I wish I still had from the vehicle I traded in for my XLT, but I couldn't swing the extra $9k for the Lariat. The windows are still enormous, but I kind of miss being able to look up.
Great video Tom, as always. I have 21k miles on my 2022 and would not trade it for anything. It is that good. I tow a GeoPro 19FD camping to PA state park and average 1.3 m/kw which lets met get to parks 150 miles away without having to DC fast charge. Many parks have Clipper Creek chargers or I get a 50 amp site and charge overnight.
Your efficiency numbers match up with mine. Range anxiety is a thing of the past now that I do the mental math.
My son borrowed it while I’m away to see if he could make it work for his home remodeling business. He’s had it for a week and I’m afraid he won’t give it back.
I’m on the verge of picking one of these up. Thank you for the info! Really appreciate you sharing your lived perspective.
Spot on Tom!!! My Lariat has just rolled over 16k and took delivery around the same time as you! Your experience is almost identical to mine and I agree with others comments about your fair representation and honest feedback. Keep up the good work!
I still love my 2022 Lightning, just crossed over 16K miles. Charging at home is around .11 per KWH while charging around town is .48 per KWH. So charging at home does have its advantages.
Sounds good when you’re driving only 16,000 miles with a 2022. At one point I was driving 3000 miles every two weeks.did that for a year I. A 2016 accord. They are not for the middle class. Only you wealthy folks.
Your insight regarding various EV topics is some of the best I've seen. I feel like I can trust your analysis as knowledgeable and genuine as apposed to all the fan channels out there.
Great video! I just clicked over 1200 miles and the truck is a beast! With a few minor mods I’ve got a great vehicle! There are a few quirks in the setup and connection to FordPass, the FCSP Setup app, CarPlay, etc. Many of my issues occurred due to phone settings needing updated.
Almost 25k on mine and I love. Hauling, towing, commuting it does it all and I don’t think I could be without an electric truck ever again.
Great video and good continuing evaluations. I've had my Lightening Lariat for 3K miles...best truck ever. I appriciate all the posters who give updates on their experiences. I charge with nothing but my solar panels so very little charge cost, running about 2.8 m/kwh, and no issues with cold weather so far as long as you condition the battery and set departure times. All my travel is mountains, high altitude, and colder temps. Love it and i keep spreading the word about how much better EVs are. I've managed to convince some skeptical friends about the vehicle, just by giving them a ride! I do wish Ford would improve the app and some of the software navigation. Thanks for the great info.
Looks like Ford thought of pretty much everything with this car. Amazing vehicle and job well done.
I love all of your videos. I am a 1st time EV owner and thanks to watching tons of your videos I was well prepared when I picked up my Lightning 2 weeks ago. Keep the video's coming, they are awesome!!
Thank you!
re ev brake coach - Ford had this on my 2013 plug in hybrid CMax Energi. In addition to being a little fun and a challenge, it also helped my teenagers learning to drive get better at not slamming on the brakes!
I’ve owned over 30 vehicles. My lightning is my 7th f150 in my lifetime.
It’s my favorite vehicle I’ve ever owned. It literally feels perfect.
Greatly appreciate your honest review here. So glad to see that FORD didn't lay an egg with this truck. The winter highway range is impressive as hell!
Great review! I have 8500 miles on my 2022 Lariat ER and I concur with all points you've raised. Your efficiency numbers and charging times match up perfectly with my experience 👍🏾
I have the same Android Auto issues as you noted, with my Pixel 7 Pro. It's definitely a Ford issue. I'm now using a cable (I too find the wireless charging inconvenient).
Keep up the good work! 👏🏾
Very well reviewed. So glad I found this channel. Fellow NJ resident.
Thank you!
This is a great review and very helpful. I appreciate your style. A lot of relevant information in this video. Keep up the excellent work.
Great video! Which did you like better and performed better, and also had the best appointments? You make these videos look easy. I know how much time goes into them. I hope your lovely bride helps you out. People don’t realize how much work goes into this. You’re very personable. Great job!
Thorough review at a good point (15k miles) to do one, where you’ve had a good amount of experience with the truck. 👍🏼
And just think that battery tech is getting better and better. We're really in the infancy of ev vehicles. Can't wait to see the improvements. Even so I think the ford lightning is one of the best ev trucks at the moment. I'm considering one.
Thank you for the 15,000 mile review. I just bought my 2023 Ford F150 Lighting Lariat 1 month ago and love it. I have been watching your channel for a while now and have taken lots of advice. My wife has a 2022 Hyundai Santa Fe Plug in Hybrid for about 2 years. Over about a 1 year period, I finished my basement. As part of that work, using your advice, I upgraded my service from 100 amp to 200 amp, replaced the meter box, replaced the FULL breaker box, ran wire for the car charger and emergency backup power as part of the basement renovation, installed a car charger, installed an emergency transfer switch, and installed an outlet and wire for emergency power. I did what I could do by myself and hired an electrician to do final connections. I'm in Vermont. I see you got to Vermont a lot. If you ever want to do a video while up here on a subscriber's project (DIY) based lots on watching your videos, come on over when up here.
I am an EV information junkie and your videos are always very informational. I’ll appreciate it a lot more after I finally get an EV but in the meantime, you are my drug of choice! 😊😂
Awesome! I’ve had all the weird trucks, Chevy avalanche, Honda, Ridgeline, and even the Subaru Baja Ridgeline was pretty cool because of the trunk and it was surprisingly capable and comfortable to drive the floor with the in bed trunk was that do you have anything on top of it to unpack it, so the idea of having a frunk That you can use and keep the full functionality of the bed is something I much desire both as a contractor, and as a camper
Good work Tom, I have all of the same issues including the condensation in the rear tail light. Most of them came with a bad 12V battery and it takes forever to get the OTA updates due to that issue. The wireless charger is useless.
I’m with you on the luxuries, Blue Cruise, center console table. Don’t use my center console table often, but sure like it when I do!
Agree about loving this truck. Has been my all time favorite truck to drive
Great video as usual, Tom. Thank you!
Tom I finally got my Lightning Platinum in July after a 2 year and change reservation wait. Gotta say I agree with 95% of your views on the truck. I was wondering however when you got the update that shows your charge rate number on the dash? Mine doesn’t show it and my truck says my software is current. Love your channel and your updates on EV’s. Your channel helped make my transition from ICE to EV a lot easier.
Tom - you covered everything that I also love and don't always love about my 2023 Lightning Lariat ER. And I thought it was just me and my Android phone - but I don't have the same problem connecting in any other model (rental) car. The center console also drops down hard if you're now paying attention!
Interestingly, the financial 'use case' at my home in British Columbia is far more compelling - we pay the equivalent of about US$0.075/KWH to charge at home, while gas is about US$5.35/gallon (CAD$1.90/litre) for 89 octane. There's also one gas station chain that has had free EV fast charging all year, so my long distance trips have been super cheap. I've done over 15,000 miles since February 1st and I've probably spent less than $1,000 in total on charging. First scheduled warranty service was 30 min- rotated tires, checked brakes/fluids and topped up wiper fluid. Done!
Keep up the AWESOME reviews! You're definitely the go-to expert on all things EV charging!
Wanted the Lighting but bought the Hybrid Powerboost due to pulling a camper. The Powerboost has the same size generator and have powered my house and camper with it…very incredible to do this. I did buy a Ford Mach E GT and love it…yes the blue cruse works great. I also have solar electric and it’s 14 years old and ours is also paid for two fold. We try to mostly charging middle of day and when charging my meter still goes backwards.
Thank you, Tom. 7,500 on my Lariat. Love my Lightning. Thanks for your recommendations getting noticed by Ford. Not exclusive to the Lightning, but there should be a way to have all lights turn off and stay off. Camping mode. Thanks again.
Finally a real and smart average truck owner. Not the idiots who assume everyone tows every week of the year and need 600 miles to get to work everyday.
I agree. The vast majority of truck owners use the truck as a car, with only occasional light duty short trip hauling. And thats the use case that ev's excel at.
Awesome video, have a Mach-E and we love it.
Something to note, none of the Mach-E's have gotten any OTA for BC. 23 Model Year got 1.2 from factory but 21 to 22 all still have 1.0 but the first generation cars got it at least enabled OTA, so I guess that counts. Now 23.5 MY Mach-Es actually come shipped with 1.3 now from the factory but sadly none of us have gotten any BC OTA yet, we're told its coming.
Great review. I have the same w 21k miles on it. My truck just gave warning light about a 12 v battery drain issue so taking it in Monday. I also have the R1S. I wanted to add that the PAAK doesn’t technically work by proximity. More so when you touch the door handle. Same thing when you want to lock only you need to hit the button to lock. Knowing you are looking for more of what the r1s does w actually locking and unlocking based on being near or walking away I know what you mean. Having the r1s as well it shows the frunk motor is way smoother and faster than the lightning which I can’t stand on lightning.
Great break down on the operation of the Ford lightning .
I have an out 12k miles on my Lightning. I would love to see the “lock” portion of PAAK implemented. Overall, this is the best vehicle I have ever owned.
Great review sir! Good info and helpful to make a truck decision for those of us who have free solar. It looks like a great vehicle for an early adopter just getting into a total EV.
Ive put 15k on my Lariat since April. It’s the best 150 I’ve owned. I use Pro Power as a backup to my EcoFlow batteries during power outages. The only drawback is the app. It needs work!
I had my Lightning 12k miles before I encountered the Powertrain Malfunction/Reduced power error, the dealer had it for almost 2 months waiting on a part. I did a buyback from Ford more than anything because I was frustrated at Ford for their lack of transparency (but I also lost trust in that specific truck); this has happened to several Lightnings some estimate 5% of total Lightnings but don’t know because Ford has stayed hush about it. Some with repeated battery module malfunctions. I did buy another Lightning because I love the truck that much, I do wish we had more information regarding the high voltage battery module malfunction issue in some trucks.
Great video! I have a lightning as well with the standard range battery. I own an oyster farm in Massachusetts and have used it for the last year towing and hauling. The truck is fantastic! I definitely wish I had the extended range battery for road trips but looking forward to Tesla opening up the chargers! Hopefully ford will send out the adapters soon!
I’ve built this for a living! DTP REV on loan from final assembly DTP ICE for overtime. Nice to see the good and bad opinions of what we build.
Great video Tom. I have had my 2022 Lightning for 16 months and have 15k on it. I agree with all you complains on the Lightning. Looking forward to Blue Cruise 1.2. I drive over 800 miles this pass weekend hauling a UHaul 12x6 trailer full of furniture for first time and got an average of 120 to 130 miles miles with a full charge. 😢Not happy with that result. But for my personal day to day use work great ❤.
I wonder when 1.2 is coming… I just bought a week ago, and I was excited about the auto lane change.
Great to hear your 15k mi update! One other thing you might want to mention is that you can potentially use the 220V outlet from ProPower Onboard with a generator inlet wired into a home's electrical system. It's my understanding that installing a generator inlet is a fraction of the cost of doing a full Intelligent Backup Power install.
Does the lightning have the ability to put the full 80-100 amps down the 220v outlet? I would want intelligent backup power because it uses the charging circuit instead.
@@rootbear75 Negative, the 220V outlet would be limited to 30A. You can pull another 2.4kW from the onboard 120V outlets as well but nothing near 80-100A. It’s a trade off certainly but at a significantly lower cost to install I suspect.
@@boilerdown1 the biggest benefit of the intelligent backup power is that I could legitimately run my entire house (all of my circuits) off of it. Obviously I wouldnt use my oven or other high watt items, but having that ability is super nice
It's also necessary if I want to practice energy abatement and try to shift my electric usage to use all the available power from my solar panels, instead of sending it back to the grid.
Great review. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome review! I'm interesting in the Lightning and your review was extremely helpful!
I have less then 1000 mile on mine, and i charge it for free on my solar. system. Love the truck. Ty Tom, very nice video.
Open door, push door lock button exit vehicle walk away. Super easy. Much easier than using the door handle lock on the outside. Good honest review. Lots of other channels have extreme bias. Not you Tom. Keep up the honest reviews.
Good video, Tom! I'm honestly surprised the PaaK on the Lightning doesn't have the same features as that on my Mach-e. I noticed the infrared light blinking on the A pillar to make sure you're paying attention.
They are just behind with the features like PAAK, they'll get added eventually.
I have only had my Lightning for 6 weeks and love it. My biggest surprise that you didn’t mention is the 1 peddle drive. I love it along with the brake coach. I’m guessing that since you’ve been driving EV’s for so long you forget how big of a change it is to how you drive. I notice more now how many people accelerate all the way to a red light while I’m gradually slowing for the light.
That's really why - I'm so used to regenerative braking that I don't notice it anymore.
Great video as usual. I own a 2022 Mach-e GT and Ford has not updated to them to BC 1.2 via OTA yet. New cars are shipping with BC 1.3 and Ford has said they are going to skip 1.2 on existing cars and go straight to 1.3. But alas, it hasn't happened yet.
You also mentioned Android auto ... My wife has the latest Samsung phone and I have an iPhone 14. The car usually connects just fine to the phone except in a couple of cases. For example, it will connect to the phone last used if both of us get into the car at the same time. If my wife used it last and I later get into the car by myself with my iPhone, it tires to connect to the Android phone. It gives a message that it couldn't connect and will not automatically connect to my iPhone in this case. But if I park it and leave the car, it will automatically connect the next time I start it.
Thanks! My planned setup!
Thanks for letting us know which region you're in. I'm in southeastern PA and I lived in SoCal when I first bought my eTron. Both regions are drastically different in range and electric cost.
I’ve got 4000 miles on my Lightning XLT. It’s my first pickup, I love it, power is amazing, super quiet, frunk is great. Little storage area under the rear seats is handy. Our dog mostly rides back there. On a side note, I have a Google Pixel 8 and have never had a problem with it recognizing the phone for Android Auto.
I’m down in SE Texas so heating is not a big issue. I do wish. Had the heat pump that the 25 model will have.
I have the fabric interiors. I scotch guarded it and it’s great.
I have the outlasts that come with the XLT so no pro power onboard. It’s nice having a 110 in the front cabin in addition to the two USBs and the cigarette adapter.
One feature I don’t think it has that I wish it did would be to show instantaneous estimate of mile per KWh so if you are n longer trips and wanted to maximize range, you could set your cruise to a sweet spot. In town I get 3+ m/kWh on our Texas highways, it’s more like ..2.1 if I’m going 75 or more.
I saw a Cybertruck in the wild on Saturday out by Brenham (part way to the Austin Tesla factory),it was being driven by an employee, he liked it a lot he said, I’m guessing it’s a preproduction unit that he’s testing out. Distinctive truck, but it does not cut it for me. I love my Lightning. Also, the Cybertruck apparently sucks at hill climbing when traction is loose and incline is steep.
We have had ours for 13 months best vehicle we have ever owned
Excellent review Tom. My phone is a galaxy S20 FE and android auto has been flawless for me. I have had my Pro for less than a year (7K). I love the quiet and comfortable ride and the look on the sport car driver’s face when I pass them. The sound quality in my bare bone trim is amazing. Everything I want and nothing I don’t at a better price than most EVs and a lot of ICE with similar capabilities on the road. The only gripe is the software development and management at Ford. OTA update quality is WAY bellow par with success rates and communication on what Ford is changing. I HAVE TO share my driving info with Ford to be able to see charging details and have charging controls available on Ford Pass while I am charging. That is just creepy behavior by Ford that does not help me trust them. All that said, overall, I love the truck and highly recommend it.
Excellent, honest review. Despite a few weaknesses, I feel Ford did an outstanding job on design of this first generation EV truck. They need to vertically integrate software based components for their 2nd generation F150. If I needed a truck now, this is one I would buy.
@collller True, but on the flip side, much lower maintenance cost and lower fuel cost when charging at home. Money can’t buy health so consider the value of cleaner air and reduced global warming.
Very informative and helpful. I'm getting 2.9 mi/KWh on my Pro model with a standard range battery through the first 2,827 miles. I set the Trip 1 and Trip 2 when I took delivery. Highway/local driving is about 50:50. I usually carry several hundred pounds of cargo since we are moving from one home to another. I have watched every Lightning video I found on UA-cam since I reserved mine on day one. I noticed that most videos using a Pro were getting exceptional range. Extrapolating from a sample of one (which is not an advisable method) it appears that the more you pay for a Lighting with an SR battery, the less range you get.
That wouldn't surprise me with Ford. Seems the same in some ways with their ICE vehicles.
Options add weight
Right. They add weight which drains the battery, when options are turned on they drain the battery more, and some even create aerodynamic drag which drains the battery even more.@@ruthwik081
Thanks Tom for another informative video
Hi Tom, Great video as usual. I have 2023 Lariat LR with 13k and agree with your review 100% and thanks for the 20 cent upgrade. I am at Load 6.3.0 and I do not have the battery percentage on my screen as you showed. Is it selectable somehow I have missed? I find the ping pong just too much today and have turned off BlueCruise. I can't wait to try BC 1.2 when released.
Thank you! This video reminds me, have you heard any update on someone making a snowplow That works with the lightning?
New Jersey really needs to grow out its rail network. The basics are there already. Nobody should have to drive 15k miles on one car alone, plus more on other cars, while living in NJ.
Yeah, it’s pretty unfortunate how absolutely shit our transit networks are. Taking trips to see family should never ever ever ever be done in a goddamn pickup.
watching a lot of f150 lightning videos, reviews, good and bad, likes and dislikes - it seems like the the consensus is the same across the board. not best for towing/hauling very heavy stuff, or long road trips. I would basically just charge at home, i don't go very far in general, and would have a light use case. appreciate the video. i'm just now on the fence whether i should wait for the 2024 if the technology is going to get better. i still got a year and a half on my current vehicle lease but test driving a 2023 tomorrow. i doubt they'll budge on doing anything to get me in but i'm in a good place to start looking around without feeling too pressured
Great information...thanks. Please do the same when the Cybertruck comes out as your unbiased opinion is valuable to me and others.
I’ll save you the trouble - it’s gonna be worse than anyone could have ever imagined
I've been waiting 4 years for Cybertruck. I considered the Lightning briefly, but decided against it. Cybertruck will better meet my needs as an all around vehicle and with better performance.
1) Cybertruck's bed is 6'-1" vs 5'-6" on the Lightning
2) The weatherproof tonneau cover on CT is like having a 100 cu ft trunk.
3) The turning circle on CT is 4' less than Lightning for better manueverability
4) Supercharger network vs Electrify America, et al.
5) CT will be more efficient/longer range. It has a lower Cd and frontal cross sectional area
6) CT has a heat pump; 48V electrical system; 800V traction battery
7) CT has adjustable air suspension and 14" ground clearance when fully raised vs. 8.4"
8) Tesla has better software
9) Full self driving option
10) Ford is losing $35,000 on every Lightning they sell. That scares me.
Just got the lariat this past weekend. Looking forward to see how it's going to treat me. I still kept my 21 jeep gc trailhawk v8. Most of my driving will be here in Chicago. Let's see how it goes.
Tom,
Great follow-up video on your year use of the Lightning. I've had my lightning since September of 2022, 16000 mi plus at the moment. I use it for work as a general home repair and it's phenomenal. I can't believe how much money I've saved in gas. Well worth the investment I believe.
Fellow contractor here I’m curious to know how much you’ve saved
@@TristenHernandez
I've saved $4,000 in fuel. Based off of having a 2017 F150 and comparing that currently to my 2022 F-150 Lightning Lariat standard range. In California the full prices are higher than the nation average. So my savings are substantial because of that. If you want more of a breakdown let me know.
@@joeaquino6595 that’s excellent. Yes, every time we go to California, we rent an electric boulder Tesla with with unlimited free super charging, and we save quite a bit of money even enough to make it worthwhile to rent.
I’m gonna come back and comment on my other channel but I drive a GMC Sierra, 2500 of which the F150 can do everything it can do except maybe plow snow. And then I have two Chevy avalanches which are phenomenal trucks but obviously I’m not doing much better than 16 to 17 MPG , which I assume is a little bit worse than your F150 with the aluminum chassis
@@joeaquino6595True about gas prices being higher, but electricity prices are even more above the average than gasoline. I'm in PG&E territory. It's $0.42 / kWh for the tier 1, but if you're charging an EV, you'll almost certainly be in tier 2, which is $0.52 / kWh. That's going to be about $5 per 20 miles.
Nice overview, and I agree with pretty much everything. We've had ours since October '23. For some reason, maybe the truck was in transit when the OTA software upgrade came out (that puts SOC in the dash cluster) and we missed out on that update. Do you have any suggestions? I'll start by asking the dealer, but I have low expectations. I also agree that walk-away locking would be nice, and how about the app telling us if the truck is locked or not, too.
I have just over 28k on my '23 SR Pro. I really enjoy this vehicel as well! I do wish Phone as a Key was available for Pro. But I can't complain, I got the (after 14 month wait) truck at the 40k price.
One thing for EV buyers to consider; home charging doens't have road tax. States like Washington are starting to add fees to the regitistration to make up for this in Washington State it is $750; so consider that when estimating your cost of charging. Your state may not have such a charge yet but as EVs become more significant in number they will as they need to keep the roads up.
37k on my Lighting Lariat Extended range. Love it! I have the same complaint about phone connection. Not relegated to Android. Apple Car Play is intermittent also.
8000 miles on my 23 Lightning Lariat. Love it. Love, love the frunk. Smooth, quiet, powerful. One plus Tom didn't mention is how spacious and comfortable the backseat is for your passengers. CCS / DCFC is the only annoyance. There is a lack of DCFC chargers/locations. And agree with Tom, the charging speed could be faster. I say buy one if you want an Electric vehicle, that happens to be a pickup truck, can do all the pickup things you may need, plus you can tow your boat when needed.
What would a lightning like that fully loaded cost? As it is now I have 2016 1 ton Lariat 6.7 L diesel four-wheel drive.
@@harrytobiassen5214 Use case is important, i.e. if you tow more than dipping your boat in and out of the water 10 miles from home, stick to a diesel if you tow. Cost? $70,000-$75,000. Go nuts and you can go over $80,000.
Thank you for talking for compairing the lightning frunk to the rivian's . I really hate how the rivian's front grill does not lift up with the frunk - its load height is very impractical.
I would like to see the same when it comes to charging. It really should be added to the Mach-e and now the F-150 lighting. I have a Mach-e
Good afternoon let me start off by saying I enjoy your input . I have a 2023 ford lightning xlt standard battery and I love it. I follow your advice about my home charger and very much satisfied its the Emporia. But I have a question or we able to use a carwash and if so is there anything special or different i must I do before going thur?
Thank you and keep on posting up!
I have 30000 km 2022 platinum and am very happy with the vehicle. It runs very smoothly and hard to drive other vehicles once you get used to of lightning .
EVEN IF IT COSTS ME SAME AS FUEL, I WILL DRIVE FORD LIGHTNING.
Great review!
Agree with many of your comments. However, my frunk opens and closes each and every time, without fail. It's the most reliable system on my beast. On the other hand, my tailgate is finicky when closing; sometimes it comes back down even if there's nothing in the way. Regarding the wireless connection, yes! Sometimes Apple CarPlay connects seamlessly, sometimes it refuses to. I keep swearing I'm gonna use a wired connection from now on, on the assumption that it will always connect.
As always a great detailed video, thank you. My Mach-E does the same thing when I push the button to open the hatch. Sometimes it opens all the way and sometimes partially. I try to stay out of the way of the sensors but I get the same issue either way. I still haven't figured out how to use the auto-open the hatch with my foot. Has never worked.
Only 2021 Mach-E's have kick to open.
Had my Lightning 11mths and love it. In the PNW, my electricity provider offers Time-of-Day rates as an alternative, where 9:00pm-7:00am and all day weekends and holidays the rate is $0.07/kW. So a complete 0-100% charge is just over $9.
Great video. Very detailed.
Happy it is serving you well. The charging infrastructure is still lacking in rural and wilderness areas. So, I’ll wait.
Very informative and helpful, How to display battery percent mark in screen i have seen it in your video
Good so far, will check in again at 100 000miles
Ditto on all you said. Really enjoy my truck. I do not however have the SOC displayed on the dash other than calm screen. What update provided this?
Great video! So, I have a non sequitur, how do you answer people who say that evs are misleading in that it takes more energy to make one than it saves. Tnx Tom, keep up the good work!
I don't! I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince people of the truth when they WANT to believe an untruth.
Tell them the oil companies paid good money to get studies to say that. But the studies that big oil didn't pay for, all say the opposite.
As many have said here, I've had a very similar experience (Lariat extended range battery) and am at about 15K myself. My work commute is less than 4 miles one way, so it become obvious I drive it for many other trips including towing various trailers, and construction projects for rental properties and recreation. Many of the same positive and negative thoughts. As far as connecting to my google phone, it seems that the computer is doing many things at start up and phone connection is later in the list; in that I have trouble at the beginning making a call, but if I wait a few minutes, there are no issues. I think the center console issues is more because of where it sits height wise as it interferes with your arm. I read where the average time fueling an ICE is about 12.5 hours per year. So I don't mind giving back some of that time for the longer trips, especially when towing. However, if that was the main purpose, the time loss would eventually not be worth it. But for me, it has been working great! I would also like to know more about the OTA when they happen. The information given is scarce.
If I fill up my car once a week for 5 mins and there's 52 weeks/year I spend slightly over 3 hours a year refueling. No idea where 12 hours is coming from
Thanks for the feedback. I have been considering one for a while but haven't made the move yet. What is your experience with insurance rates and registration fees when compared to an ICE truck?
I don't have the numeric state of charge indications on my 2023 (fully updated, I think). I haven't found a menu selection for it. Love the long term review!
I have a 2023 as well. No SOC in cluster and shows no updates are available. I've had mine 3 months and never got an OTA update. Seems fishy to me. I love the truck, but everything related to software is very antiquated. I had hope we would get updates that would improve the experience, but so far, there are none for truck or app.
WTH? Mine doesn’t show SOC in the instrument cluster either. When I saw Tom show it I thought “what the heck is mine showing that now?” Nope. And I’m not showing any updates available. Last update was less than two weeks ago too! WTH Ford?
You'll need to wait until Ford sends out 6.3.0 to your truck to get the state of charge display. Staged rollout will take several months.
Thanks. I'll sit around and wait for my turn.
Tom - I really like your channel and content. I’ve got a proposed test for you. I use my 23 lightning to tow a 5,000lb camper to nearby (~100miles or less) campgrounds in Virginia and West Virginia. When towing to WV, I cross a series of mountains. So here’s the test; what is the proper way to set the trailer brake controller for the EV? It seemed, though I don’t have any hard data, that when descending the mountain the trailer brakes were activating and “robbing’ me of some regen. Next trip I take I will turn the gain down. Obviously you don’t want the trailer brakes to not activate when you need them…. I’ve emailed ford with no response, but in my opinion the best way for this situation to be handled would be in the truck’s software - use max regen then apply trailer brakes if it isn’t sufficient. Btw, I do engage cruise on the mountains; very curvy roads with variable slope, so I set it to 30 or 35 so that I can negotiate the curves yet not slow down too much on the flatter parts. Thoughts?
Two changes I would do are: 1) move the screen up 1 or 2 inches for more hand room for the wireless charger 2) move the charge port door's hinge on top or driver door side so the port door is not in the way of the v3 supercharger cable (also just saw your magic dock charging video).
Hey Tom: Great Video ! Like you I own a 2022 Lightning Lariat with the extended battery pack. I am located in Connecticut. I mostly park in my driveway & only charge when necessary. I have the 80 amp charger mounted outside. Question, should I keep the truck plugged in during the winter months? Will this contribute to battery degradation? I charge only to 90% for routine driving which I find is more than adequate. Thank You !
I find it highly implausible in NJ you are paying $.15/KWh. I don’t think you are looking at your entire bill. In New England even at my rate of $.13/KWh for generation, the final bill including all fees, taxes, distribution, generation is $.29/KWh. That’s more than doubles any calculation. And state of CT is another few cents higher due to fees/distribution pushing over $.30/KWh.