How do you do the double jump cancel tech? (what Ness does after he kills Jigglypuff and a few other enemies) ls it even possible to input that normally?
+Sam Huang double jump cancel is actually really simple, and is a part of 4 character's toolkits (mewtwo, yoshi, peach and ness). all you have to do is use an ability (any ability, even B specials) during your double jump and it will cancel the upward momentum instantly. its most principle use in actual fights is to use aerials very low to the ground, much lower than would be possible by SHFFLing, and also notably easier to input. what you see him doing here is jump > frame 5 double jump > frame 6 airdodge straight down or with a slight angle > repeat
Katalowins Thanks a lot for your reply and info, in the case of using moves, would you just input a move after your DJ instead of airdodging down? Also does this tech work in any way similar to chars like Ganondorf that can SH aerial into immediately DJ aerial?
+Sam Huang for a DJC aerial that is exactly right, any time after jump or short hop is used (it makes no difference in the timing), you can jump again and then immediately input any attack to cancel your double jump's vertical momentum. as for the second question, this technique is entirely different, which is why it belongs exclusively to the 4 characters with the largest and most unique double jumps. i assume why this trait was added was to prevent people flying past their targets when they try to use these double jumps to connect with an aerial. however the applications are really endless (especially with Yoshi who can turn around in this double jump, then cancel it with a move). it is a very underrated and valuable technique in the neutral game, quickly altering attack paths or using low reaching aerial hitboxes to shield stab at people's feet.
ness has potential just no one's ever really tried to be good with him like amsa did with yoshi not viable in the presence of fox / falco / sheik / marth / peach / falcon but would put him around young link's level. about where yoshi should be too, though ness probably is the weakest of the 3
+RaggaeOfFunk yeah, but he's still low tier. The only reason yoshi is mid tier is because he has TOOLS. Like parrying and super armor on his jump cancel 2nd jump.
young link is low tier, yoshi is lower than that last I checked. mario is a stronger neutral than yoshi. if he's up there between yl and mario it's just splitting hairs.
Thank you, I've been trying to encourage him to do that as well. I know anything TAS Kirby could do a human could do but better since Kirby doesn't have anything ordinary.
0:25 Ness VS Ness 0:47 Ness VS Jigglypuff 1:05 Ness VS Pichu 2:27 Ness VS Ganondorf and Kirby 2:51 Ness VS Roy and Mario 3:20 Ness VS Marth and Dr. Mario 5:18 Ness VS Mewtwo, Bowser and Ice Climbers
I imagine this being the Ness that fought Giygas in Earthbound, and he, Paula, Poo and Jeff wavedashing and moonwalking all over the place to space Giygas inexplicable attacks.
thank you for doing the credits like you don't understand how frustrating it is to watch TASers not do the credits also this was pretty awesome but I feel like it needed more yoyo glitch
It's the Ness yo-yo glitch. :3 How it works (from wiki): 1.Use Ness' up smash and hit any opponent or destructible part of the stage with the outreaching part of the yoyo. Charge the yoyo very slightly before releasing. 2.Make sure that, after the yoyo is released into its upward swing, it doesn't hit anything else. 3. Troll your friends and laugh at their confusion.
+kirbygamer905 it's the yo-yo glitch, ness's up smash can glitch that it leaves a hitbox on the ground when it was performed. what i'm amazed at is that the fucking dr mario knew that and air dodged the trap hitbox he does it again by grabbing the dr mario across the stage
lol, I know right? Well, I suck compared to good players online, as well as the whole competitive gaming community for that matter... I don't practice real time that much at all, I can't apply all the technical stuff I know about Melee into actual gameplay...
![SSBM [TAS]: Mewtwo Adventure Mode (Very Hard No Damage)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NT-vBLYFzic/mqdefault.jpg)
Paula: Ness come over
Ness: I can't I'm doing all-star mode
Paula: My parents aren't home
Ness:
Oh nooooooooo - Johnton
NO.
ness hailing from onett lol
FBI were coming v:
I am just speechless at what happened to Dr. Mario.
ikr
Ness probably didn't want to get his flu shot. :/
Khiry Johnson Haha! I get the joke!
Brandon Kabamba Exactly! XD
It's the Ness yo-yo glitch. Learn it and then troll your friends! It's HILARIOUS.
LOVE IT WHEN U SHOW OFF YOUR SO GOOD I CANT WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONE!!!!
TAS (Tool-Assisted Superplay) is not meant to show skill. He plays frame by frame with save-states and such to make a "perfect" runthough.
I hate how they nerfed Ness' dair in smash 4. Then again if it wasn't nerfed then Ness would be S tier and hes already pretty high up on the tier list
Ohh kayyyy
THAT DK KILL DOES NOT EXPAND DONG
2:40 AAAAAH!!!! Aye yi yi! Pheeuuw!!! That was close 😂😭
Oh, seriously, NOBODY HAS LIKED NOR REPLIED TO THIS COMMENT, COME ON!
How do you do the double jump cancel tech? (what Ness does after he kills Jigglypuff and a few other enemies) ls it even possible to input that normally?
+Sam Huang double jump cancel is actually really simple, and is a part of 4 character's toolkits (mewtwo, yoshi, peach and ness). all you have to do is use an ability (any ability, even B specials) during your double jump and it will cancel the upward momentum instantly. its most principle use in actual fights is to use aerials very low to the ground, much lower than would be possible by SHFFLing, and also notably easier to input. what you see him doing here is jump > frame 5 double jump > frame 6 airdodge straight down or with a slight angle > repeat
Katalowins
Thanks a lot for your reply and info, in the case of using moves, would you just input a move after your DJ instead of airdodging down?
Also does this tech work in any way similar to chars like Ganondorf that can SH aerial into immediately DJ aerial?
+Sam Huang for a DJC aerial that is exactly right, any time after jump or short hop is used (it makes no difference in the timing), you can jump again and then immediately input any attack to cancel your double jump's vertical momentum.
as for the second question, this technique is entirely different, which is why it belongs exclusively to the 4 characters with the largest and most unique double jumps. i assume why this trait was added was to prevent people flying past their targets when they try to use these double jumps to connect with an aerial. however the applications are really endless (especially with Yoshi who can turn around in this double jump, then cancel it with a move).
it is a very underrated and valuable technique in the neutral game, quickly altering attack paths or using low reaching aerial hitboxes to shield stab at people's feet.
Im guessing this was done on pc? not to mention the 60fps and good res
ness has potential just no one's ever really tried to be good with him like amsa did with yoshi
not viable in the presence of fox / falco / sheik / marth / peach / falcon but would put him around young link's level. about where yoshi should be too, though ness probably is the weakest of the 3
Nope.
zelda and roy are not better than a ness that can wavedash and djc-Lcancel on point
+RaggaeOfFunk yeah, but he's still low tier. The only reason yoshi is mid tier is because he has TOOLS. Like parrying and super armor on his jump cancel 2nd jump.
young link is low tier, yoshi is lower than that last I checked. mario is a stronger neutral than yoshi. if he's up there between yl and mario it's just splitting hairs.
Ness might have tools to make him more viable. But we'll probably never know since almost nobody bothers to use Ness in tournaments.
5:05 the hardest of reads.
DK was trying to commit suicide
i call hacks
pinkie pyro it isn't hacking, dude. its called tas
Its Not A Hard Read
Look At The Word [ TAS ] [ Tas: Tool Assisted Speedrun] CANT YOU PEOPLE (READ) BEFORE LOOKING AT
VIDEOS
@@user-yo6dt6vw2l its funnier to call it a read hi jo
That Corneria fight was disrespect epitomized.
Eli M poor sheik
That Sheik KO was just plain crazy
Holy crap
Amazing job as always, man! I loved the Yoyo Glitch parts and the dominations of Dr Mario and Shiek!
Thank you, I've been trying to encourage him to do that as well. I know anything TAS Kirby could do a human could do but better since Kirby doesn't have anything ordinary.
@@NTAOChangeOfHeart what
This is nothing. I do this every morning before eating 14 dozen eggs.
So, 168 eggs?
Don't spoil my Gaston reference.
Simna ibn Sind
Your wat
Gaston is a character from Beauty and the Beast.
Btw it is 5 dozen not 14 cmon man
0:25 Ness VS Ness
0:47 Ness VS Jigglypuff
1:05 Ness VS Pichu
2:27 Ness VS Ganondorf and Kirby
2:51 Ness VS Roy and Mario
3:20 Ness VS Marth and Dr. Mario
5:18 Ness VS Mewtwo, Bowser and Ice Climbers
6:16 whoa whoa whoa.......all my life......I never knew you could actually pick up and throw Electrode.
Schmidty030 I do that in brawl :D lol
I always just end up blowing myself up trying to pick it up.
late to the party
The video was taken during the year of 199X, the year he was considered mid-tier.
Everytime I hear Pichu crying out like that I feel so sorry for him :(
VikingPotatoes Yeh, poor little guy. :(
_ D0ct0r _ NO UR A BITCH
3:28 wtf how?
Ness's Yoyo glitch. It's fairly easy to perform without TAS.
@@SilentHellVG corretly a bat
Killing marth gave ness his grab range
The hitbox of his attack extended from one place to another because of a glitch.
I imagine this being the Ness that fought Giygas in Earthbound, and he, Paula, Poo and Jeff wavedashing and moonwalking all over the place to space Giygas inexplicable attacks.
CharroArgentino He was just really feeling it.
CharroArgentino I like your picture. >:)
Gage Thoreson
IM REALLY FEELING IT
PEEEKAY THUNDER PEEKAY FIYBER TOOO MUCH PK
I need Link to your profile pic for research
I'd like to think this Ness learned how to multishine.
What's impressive to me is that only 1 PK Fire was used.
+Sora Okamichi PK Fire was horrible in Melee, that's why.
Sora Okamichi you can edge cancel that shit pretty well, and it really matters more who the opponent is.
Ness to Sheik: You're going down B
But you didn't avert 20XX! You didn't disgrace Fox!
But I do feel quite sorry for Sheik....
thank you for doing the credits
like you don't understand how frustrating it is to watch TASers not do the credits
also this was pretty awesome but I feel like it needed more yoyo glitch
4 CPUs disliked.
Tabbender Make that 19 CPU dislikes.
3:35 this puts Marth's grab range to shame
if someone could play like this, ness would be viable
5:57 - It's like all I heard was stop watches having as orgy.
2:39 THE RESPECT IS LESS THAN 0
What happened at 3:28? How does that work?
yeah... wtf
It's the Ness yo-yo glitch. :3
How it works (from wiki):
1.Use Ness' up smash and hit any opponent or destructible part of the stage with the outreaching part of the yoyo. Charge the yoyo very slightly before releasing.
2.Make sure that, after the yoyo is released into its upward swing, it doesn't hit anything else.
3. Troll your friends and laugh at their confusion.
Ness use haki JAJA XD
3:28-3:30 What the heck?
+kirbygamer905 it's the yo-yo glitch, ness's up smash can glitch that it leaves a hitbox on the ground when it was performed. what i'm amazed at is that the fucking dr mario knew that and air dodged the trap hitbox
he does it again by grabbing the dr mario across the stage
+kirbygamer905 It's what makes Ness SS tier, friend.
+The ImBlahster AI looks at any hitbox no matter what you physically see
i like that when you play on the stream online you suck but you are the best TASer that i know :D
lol, I know right? Well, I suck compared to good players online, as well as the whole competitive gaming community for that matter... I don't practice real time that much at all, I can't apply all the technical stuff I know about Melee into actual gameplay...
:D
One day Ness decided to use steroids so this happened.
Ness tried PSI Steroids Ω
+João Ayache ...but it missed
+Green Ness™ *Skip Sandwich DX
+midnightmadness786 YES!!!
3:29 What the fuck are hitboxes?
+blindsniper812 Also 3:35 It kinda took away the wow factor for me.
+Jonathan Pollmann why did it take away? if anything it should impress. that glitch isn't the easiest to do
+blindsniper812 It's a glitch ness can do in melee. I was surprised he didn't do it more lol.
yoyo glitch
how did he hit Dr.Mario with the bat!? 3:29
How did you do that @1:02 ? What were your inputs and how could I do that (In TAS)?
Double jump wave dash, extremely fast, several times.
That bat hit at 1:22 is so satisfying.
3:29 Ness use his bat and hit Dr. Mario even though Dr. Mario didn't come in contact with Ness.😂
3:32 - 3:36
nice yo-yo glitch c;
i enjoy seeing Ness doing a lot of spikes!
How do you make ness move like that?! 😮
6:04 BEEP BEEP BEEP
3:35 Ness turned into Marth
1:46
Sounds like Mr. game and watch! LOL
Okey
Keep up this amazing work! It puts a smile on my face Everytime I watch your videos! Keep'em coming.
4:42 well at least now it’s not fox getting 2736283838 lasers into his head
Serious question: is Ness' wavedash faster than his run?
Nice video, I love TAS stuff.
Ness Okay
4:42 JAJAJAJAJAAAJAJAJAA
Awesome video.
01:01 ness 20xx
Congratulation for this Amazing TAS ! :D
4:42. Be glad Paula wasn't here to see this.
Throw child into path of speeding car
"Merciful Master"
This video brings me much happi-ness! ;)
Wta gnius
OK
1000 MR G&W around ness
ness sad side: what do we do
ness wild side: WE GO HAM
If you don’t start getting the trophies.... I’m going to fucking cry.
I'm stealing that kirby kill disrespect.
Why isn't Ness considered a viable competitive player? That Dr. Mario Kill though!
Cody Littlejohn Naw it's cool. I love the guy as well, I'm just curious.
Is TAS a bot or something because thats defently not human
0:38
Ness: I killed myself, I beat my own ass...
Gotta laugh at the fact DK was willing to commit suicide but you still killed him with a PK Thrust
lol donkey kong thought he was safe in the barrel cannon
Every Kill Is Like A Mr.Game And Watch 9
if hbox practiced only ness instead of puff
I’m a ness main and can not even comprehend what I’m seeeeing😂
Donkey Kong was terrified.
Yo 4:40-4:44 Crazyists thing ever!!!!!!
nice, very inventive
shame it weren't sub 3
Hermit527 what do you mean
Is ness Marth? He has unbelievable grab and hit range
Anyone want to tel me what happened at 3:29?
Me in smash 64 jumping and playing ness
6:15 YOU CAN PICK UP ELECTRODE?!?
Ness moonwalking to each stage lol
Ness ate the Skip Sandwich!
**OKEY intensifies**
Try with Pichu or Jigglypuff next
If Mario air dodged ness would of died
I Was Si Music Glitch
Ness are the magic cake to much
What is the song that plays at the end, the "Thanks for Watching" screen?
SuperJTthunder An 8-bit remix of the song "Snowman" from EarthBound.
It's actually the original Snowman from Mother. Not a remix.
Vs. Ness gets Merciful Master
0:37 Perfection.
Those Corneria laser combos are just too funny.
you countered the shit out of roy
GGGGAAAAMMMMEEEE!!!???
Doing Yoshi TAS can be challenging, well, at least for me, but! It will be no problem for gamefreak, that's for sure!
I agree. :)
2019 anyone
3:30 how the fuck did that hit?
Are you doublejump cancelling and auto cancelling for like no lag or are those super fast wavelands? You know what im talking about right?
He May Be Chubby
But That Doesn't Mean People Cant Always Win
5:05 "What a read"
That's a hacking character
This is not TAS but TAP.
I have seen god on Earth