Joel talking about Armour Balls while simultaneously running an armour balls is ludicrous 😂 Joel: Armour balls are the problem Also Joel: I am the problem
As someone who has been using Ike since his release (Felix also now), he is fine. You just need to understand match ups more and have proper supports. I've been able to tank essentially every defense in the game. Here are the supports you want depending on the threat: Brave Robin: Special Jump support (Nephenee, other Robins), Felix: Gatekeeper or Brave Robin to setup ice to protect the back line, and AoEs: Lumera/Fallen Lumera. Obviously this wont' be easy to fit on 1 team, unless you have a bonus mythic, so you will need at least 2 Ike teams. Also if you are struggling against Heidrun, just stack resistance. Phantom res is the secret tech I've heard no one talk about. And if you don't want to think about all that just use Felix
Mystic Boost on A!Timerra is my answer to Felix.Adaptative damage still hurts her a lot but her innate Bulwark and Paired with Gatekeeper and B!felix with Celica ring won't scare me anymore. She just need the usual supports Ikes runs.
Hmm, Oblivionknight do you actually use Duo Fjorm when you feel like Brave Felix is attacking your units? Like do you use Duo Fjorm's Duo skill when you feel like Brave Felix is attacking for 2 turns, to cover up with ice meta? I'm just curious on if that was yes on your clip that I saw.
@@OblivionknightYeah like you showed in your Summoner Duels i uh am actually am not good at Summoner Duels and I only got to 3.5k or less, so I was wondering if you used Duo Fjorm's Duo Skill to prevent approaching your units from Brave Felix's insane Galeforce meta.
I'll give you that Ike is no longer the absolute immovable object he used to be in AR but he's still fiiiiiine. Far finer than any 6 month old unit has any right to be in this game. I went from not using ladders at all for the better part of the 3-4 months prior to Heidrun and Felix, to using no more than 2 per week, and only during Anima season, where I can't deploy Lumera for free. Creation Pulse has gone a long way in helping him by not needing a specific anti-scowl deploy, giving you more room for anti-warp/aoe for teams that try to overwhelm him with counters beyond the offensive player's ability to counter back.
I’ve gotten a couple comments like this, and I may have overstated my case. I think it’s harder to use Ike right now. He’s still clearly the best omnitank and probably the 2nd best tank in general. My issue is with how mobile defenses are right now. It makes omnitanks much harder to use and it means Ike isn’t in a class on his own. The other big issue is his felix matchup when you don’t have rally spectrum, buy as you stated, you can get that in a C skill. Most Ike fans I talk to are still pretty happy, but they’re using him more selectively now.
@@FEH You're definitely not wrong. As I said, I went from using 0 ladders for months to using 1-2 a week, so times definitely are changing. We're getting to the point where you can't just park Ike somewhere and win, much like the omnitanking meta was last year, where people that were actually good at it still were able to be successful, but people looking to just EP struggled. I honestly don't mind using a ladder here and there. Besides, I'm kinda locked to omnitanking with a +10 Lumera and Veyle lol
Timerra’s pretty great for an anti-Felix tank. She has an unusual best in slot Sacred Seal: mystic boost. She’s even able to survive Felix doubling and proccing Celica Engaged Gust with max movement with it.
I'm still using my Gen 1 and 2 Units and I can still get wins here and there, but it's getting really hard nowadays to stay loyal to older units you love. Also, I am considering pulling for Shield Fighter, however I am also afraid that it will fall off once Halloween comes up. My gut feeling tells me we will be seeing something ridiculous and new to counter it again... Or we will get some better and stronger version of it in december.
There isn't going to be anything better than Shield Fighter for a while it's simply too much flat DR so I would highly recommend pulling for it. What you should look out for next is upgraded Save Skills.
I can still remember Armor balls are the meta way back when I first started FEH(a good time to start the game unlike nowadays) and Im happy they are back again. Haven't met one opponent yet but it's good to have a team that can bust them.
"Hit & run is hurting right now... They're not doing amazing" Same video: highlights brave Bernie (a hit & run unit) as an AR + summoner duel threat. Maybe the first time I've disagreed with Joel. I promise you I'm not struggling right now lol. I'd argue it's been thriving since as early as yunaka's winter intro; deer boy, Niðavellir, aided Reginn, attuned Azura, brave Alphonse, & brave felix (i know, he's everything lol) have buffed this archetype tremendously. Unless you're running 2x canto control, I'm gonna hit & run all over you 🤣. Otherwise great vid 😉
I can certainly be wrong. If you’ve got videos, send them my way! My big concern with hit and run is how easy it is to move from one side of the map to the other. It’s makes the running part harder.
Best defense in AR is not being a boring uncreative coward hiding behind unbreakable save balls, best defense is actually unpredictability. Units like BFelix, Celica ring/Guidance, BLapis, YEmmerin, and specially, current HoF Tina, can give your defense so many random unpredictable stuff the opponent will never see it coming. For example in a previous season ARD replay, my Tina stole the warp bubble from a VMhyrr allowing all my units to warp in and 1 turn the player (imagine the face in him)
I'm using Attuned Eirika with Laguz Friend, supported by Seteth and co Feels like she's invincible unless she gets doubled, which has only happened once lmao The main issue is protecting the supports and have some sort of antiwarp source, because Felix with Celica ring is a ridiculous unit
I still wonder if BoL4 was released because of Lyon which makes me wonder if they actually thought about its impact for AoE. AoEs represented a way of having some old units still have power while deactivating a few ">25% HP" effects. In other words, it was easier to manage AR-O with no new toys, now it's not quite looking like that. I want to see something negating BoL, mainly for player control. A new 1.7x AoE with said effect? An emblem effect which would enable it in one unit? W/e it could be, but sssomething!
My go to tank has been, believe it or not, still Attuned Caeda. I got 5 of her after emblem celica, I need to find a may to make use of this lol And actually, she pairs amazingly with the new ice felicia, which helps with her spd and gives her NCD. All that is left in that unit now is breath of life, but I don't think it's worth it cause she doesn't have a really high Def, it's her worst stat actually. But it's pretty fun to watch her enemies get really big numbers on the damage preview and reduce them to 0, I love it
One thing I will say about Brave Felix is that I don't think he's gonna age quite as well as everyone makes him out to be. With how many tools saves are getting right now, Felix might have trouble on offense and defense in killing these units. I have a +7 Brave Hector with Reopening and Near Save and Felix flat out fails to kill him. It's a similar lifespan to Winter Edelgard where she eventually fell off because everyone and their mom began running more and more near saves. He'll always be a good unit, but I don't think he'll be the premier CYL unit for too long (unlike Robin who I think is gonna stay good because of all of her tools.)
It’ll really hinge on what kind of skills he gets. I did that big episode on CYL values over the first 2 years, and I was amazed at how much of it was just luck… and by luck I mean how much IS stacks the deck.
Excellent and informative video as always! In the best builds section, I was eyeing the Bernie offense team (I have her +4 and plan to max her) but don't have Mira, Nidvellir, or Heithrun. What roles do they serve on the team, and could I substitute them? I assume Mira is just a dancer, but I'm not well-versed in what that trio does... Thanks!
Duo Lyon, who used to be the nightmare of SD, is now nowhere to be seen on the list of most used units for SD. How the mighty have fallen and good for those who despise Duo Lyons back then😅
Such is the nature of FEH. Duo Lyons life cycle, their dominance and eventuall fall, reminds me very much of Duo Lifs, a Valentine unit as well, coincidentally.
Was sad to see how hard they nerfed him and so confused by howmany fehtubers still recommend flared sparrow in a world where duo lyon is considered dead
I never thought I'd say this, but the mode I've been enjoying the most lately is Summoner Duels S. I never enjoyed Summoner Duels in general, but every other game mode centers around the same one or two units and it just gets old. It's more fun to disqualify them in S and see what else your opponent comes up with. I'm one of those guys who max invested Brave Tiki, and she really shines if you can remove specific units. The problem is, 4 or 5 of her hardest counters are among the most popular units in the game (Brave Felix, Attuned Micaiah, Heidrun, Legendary Male Shez, and elk man). That said, she positively wrecks Duo Fjorm, and Brave Female Robin can't do much against her either. In SDS she blindsided quite a few players who just had nothing in their backup teams to handle her.
Honestly for the last few months I’ve just been using my favorite +10 Edward as an omnitank I just sit out there. While i do make mistakes in positioning every once in a while, with the right support he’s been able to wipe out entire defense teams more often than not
F! Ike refine is goated. Stacking flat and special dr from gust, having dbl unity with Brave F! Robin giving out panic easily, he can almost always guarantee his special proc on retaliation regardless of hush scowl. B!F! Robin as support is huge for him, canto and ice walls lets me be able to force defense teams to only attack Ike as well. My build for him is Gust, atk/spd unity, lg4, bol4, ncd echo
Why you don’t talk about Fogado who is the best option against Fjorm?, he just erased Fjorm so well And also the fact that he brings the key to defeat her is very interesting
I'm going to have to rebuild all my ARD teams so I can take out the saves flooding my castle. I had a good 2 weeks with the Felix+BCelica rally trap combo
Not a big deal but I think that to be really accurate there should be a clear distinction between standard Galeforce and Felix-Galeforce archetypes in the ranking bc standard Galeforce is 100% sinking. It's just that Felix specifically: ignores Anti-Warp (with increased mvt and refresh) + ignores Traps + counters Ice + doesn't necessarily rely on AoE so ignores BoL + has a better time at nuking Alfonse/Heidrunand while standard galeforcers get super hard countered by 2 or 3 against every serious defense.
Do you think Marni or Panetta are the better investments? I got a +10 BEdelgard (returning player) but she gets rolled by the competition and is borderline unusable as a near saver, so im thinking of getting Marni to replace her or just use Panette instead
@@SuluXuluS Shield Figther solves most of Brave Edelgard's problems unless you're like me and you prefer to run Black Eagle Rule because it makes her special 😆
lul i saw that infantry pasta once and though this is such an easy deff team to beatt. you need so many specific units you just don't get a dancer and then its super easy to bait out movement and just sweep the team after it moved out of the safety of it's starting position
Since I don't have Gatrie at all in my barracks, how would an invested +3 A!Idunn with shield fighter + A/R scowl be against Felix? I have an extra Duo Fjorm but I'm unsure on who to fodder her off too. Also thanks Joel for making a meta report today! I needed this especially after being perplexed by your defense on AR the other night lol.
@@Scarecrohh Your Idun will do fine with Shield Figther although the Scowl isn't necessary because Felix will still get his special off on the 2nd hit. I would trade that A skill for more bulk from Duo Fjorm's a skill
If I can still beat whale defenses using EIke as a f2p then I can't imagine Timerra being anything less than great. I dont really get why omni tanks are falling off because of Nergal when bonuses were never necessary to begin with. All the best supports are drive buffers like Gatekeeper, Lumera, Seteth; all of whom can provide their support from 3 or more spaces away. In my experience, even against high threat range defenses, you can safely place them behind your omni tank as long as you only bring the minimum 3 buildings. Only some outliers like multiple Celica defenses have enough reach to actually cause trouble. (Dark season Embla isn't even consistent at countering drive stacking either, from what I've seen)
This meta is a fucking disaster and I'm having about as little fun as I did back in the pathfinder Sigurdline days. Even the nukes are stupidly bulky and can't be killed. I'll charge my winter Edel in there and she only does 10 damage to Felix somehow, let alone kill him. Almost every goddamn defense is the same stupid Robin/Felix copypasta bullshit, and the brave units are so stupidly strong just their mere existence can turn even a garbage tier map into something hard to beat. I spent an hour this morning on a literal meme map (guy was just showing off his highly invested Black Knight) because the brave crew was there and it's so stupidly hard to deal with them.
In my opinion and with the resources ive been able to get ( laguz friend and timerra ) its just felix he has way to much that extra action for free was a step to far and thats not even mentioning the celica ring on him
If it takes that long to beat its not a meme or a garbage tier map. The defensive team and the layout are symbiotic. Would the map be shit with a different team? Who cares, it has this team and thats what you need to find a way through. The offense is difficult right now, but thats the whole game. If the wins are free and easy, what is the point of playing? My simple advixe as someone returning to this game 2 months ago after not playing since like 2017: dont try to build a +10 of some unit you want to be a god. Spread out your resources and build a diversity of teams so you have tools to pick from and you will find answers to every defense. Also you do not need the 4th version of every skill WoM3 and other "outdated" skills still put in the work if you know what exactly you want the unit to be doing when youre building them
Wait until the new Emblem reveal tonight shakes up the meta even more. 💀 Assuming it is Lyn or Sigurd...we're in for some hellish effects to be introduced to make things even more crazier. Even worse, I hear theories we may get 2 Emblems or an Emblem and a Mythic this month soooo....
If you would have told me, 3 years ago, that one of the best skill in the game would be breath of life, I would have laughed at you 😂 Anyhow, considering where the game is heading, maybe we'll get soon the arrival of tier 4 save skills? I can clearly see these skills crushing the meta... AGAIN!
Well... if I can tell how I would counter Brave Felix, I just use Hortensia's Arcane Weapon after you refine her with 200 Refining Stone or Loki is also a good option to defeat him easily after he's done moving after 2 turns, Duo Fjorm. Well, I just use my super overpowered melee tanks to take her out, As for Brave Bernie, I am still learning on how to counter her, but I think my best suggestion would be when Brave Bernie is not attacking for that turn I would just defeat her immediately before she triggers 4 attacks. With Emblem Celica effect on to that melee tanks. Oh Emblem Ike can be easily defeated by Legendary Female Shez or use Legendary Fire Lilina to aoe before he actives his speical skill, As for Heidrun she well, I just use units like Mystic Altina with a divine codes and a lot of investment on to her or even Legendary Wind Elincia can be a huge threat to her at least from that's what I have been doing to take down Heidrun out. Attuned Micaiah if you have Fire Legendary Hinoka she will get rekt by her easily since Attuned Micaiah is a Flying unit.
Funny you say Shez is good yet mine couldn’t even kill B Alfonse, him and Felix together in arena this week almost made me quit the game for good. Like 42x4 with Luna activating twice and Alfonse shrugged it off. 😭💀
To sumarize all the frustration I'm seeing in the comments. "I have +10 X old Unit and they are not capable to win against the new units 🙄." Please, U can't hope that ur favorite unit will be relevant forever, that's how powercreep works, one day the CLY 8 Units will lost relevance, new units will come and get their place and that's ok. I'm 3rd year returnnee and I loved the new units and I having a lot of fun right now.
New fjords isn’t that good… I’ve tried using it and every way possible I use her, she just dies. I know she is an opponent turn initiates combat unit but melee just kills her so easy which with Felix is so easy to do. And emblem Ike
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Joel talking about Armour Balls while simultaneously running an armour balls is ludicrous 😂
Joel: Armour balls are the problem
Also Joel: I am the problem
The things we must do for science. 😞
Tbh, I felt pretty dirty all week, especially when I went undefeated.
@@FEH Science is an arduous path, but we do what we must because we can.
@@FEH 😂
As someone who has been using Ike since his release (Felix also now), he is fine. You just need to understand match ups more and have proper supports. I've been able to tank essentially every defense in the game. Here are the supports you want depending on the threat: Brave Robin: Special Jump support (Nephenee, other Robins), Felix: Gatekeeper or Brave Robin to setup ice to protect the back line, and AoEs: Lumera/Fallen Lumera. Obviously this wont' be easy to fit on 1 team, unless you have a bonus mythic, so you will need at least 2 Ike teams. Also if you are struggling against Heidrun, just stack resistance. Phantom res is the secret tech I've heard no one talk about. And if you don't want to think about all that just use Felix
Mystic Boost on A!Timerra is my answer to Felix.Adaptative damage still hurts her a lot but her innate Bulwark and Paired with Gatekeeper and B!felix with Celica ring won't scare me anymore. She just need the usual supports Ikes runs.
Hmm, Oblivionknight do you actually use Duo Fjorm when you feel like Brave Felix is attacking your units? Like do you use Duo Fjorm's Duo skill when you feel like Brave Felix is attacking for 2 turns, to cover up with ice meta? I'm just curious on if that was yes on your clip that I saw.
@@nobunagaoda9277 in SD?
@@OblivionknightYeah like you showed in your Summoner Duels i uh am actually am not good at Summoner Duels and I only got to 3.5k or less, so I was wondering if you used Duo Fjorm's Duo Skill to prevent approaching your units from Brave Felix's insane Galeforce meta.
@@nobunagaoda9277 Oh i gotcha. Ya, definitely. Duo Fjorm's button is a great way to slow down Felix's approach and let your team get into position
Felix and Fjorn have a common predator in Fallen Ursula.
How is Ursula killing Fjorm? She will do AOE and 0×2.
"this should last about a season or two"
2 days later: oh boy...
I'll give you that Ike is no longer the absolute immovable object he used to be in AR but he's still fiiiiiine. Far finer than any 6 month old unit has any right to be in this game. I went from not using ladders at all for the better part of the 3-4 months prior to Heidrun and Felix, to using no more than 2 per week, and only during Anima season, where I can't deploy Lumera for free. Creation Pulse has gone a long way in helping him by not needing a specific anti-scowl deploy, giving you more room for anti-warp/aoe for teams that try to overwhelm him with counters beyond the offensive player's ability to counter back.
I’ve gotten a couple comments like this, and I may have overstated my case. I think it’s harder to use Ike right now. He’s still clearly the best omnitank and probably the 2nd best tank in general. My issue is with how mobile defenses are right now. It makes omnitanks much harder to use and it means Ike isn’t in a class on his own. The other big issue is his felix matchup when you don’t have rally spectrum, buy as you stated, you can get that in a C skill. Most Ike fans I talk to are still pretty happy, but they’re using him more selectively now.
@@FEH You're definitely not wrong. As I said, I went from using 0 ladders for months to using 1-2 a week, so times definitely are changing. We're getting to the point where you can't just park Ike somewhere and win, much like the omnitanking meta was last year, where people that were actually good at it still were able to be successful, but people looking to just EP struggled. I honestly don't mind using a ladder here and there. Besides, I'm kinda locked to omnitanking with a +10 Lumera and Veyle lol
Timerra’s pretty great for an anti-Felix tank. She has an unusual best in slot Sacred Seal: mystic boost. She’s even able to survive Felix doubling and proccing Celica Engaged Gust with max movement with it.
I'm still using my Gen 1 and 2 Units and I can still get wins here and there, but it's getting really hard nowadays to stay loyal to older units you love.
Also, I am considering pulling for Shield Fighter, however I am also afraid that it will fall off once Halloween comes up. My gut feeling tells me we will be seeing something ridiculous and new to counter it again... Or we will get some better and stronger version of it in december.
There isn't going to be anything better than Shield Fighter for a while it's simply too much flat DR so I would highly recommend pulling for it. What you should look out for next is upgraded Save Skills.
I can still remember Armor balls are the meta way back when I first started FEH(a good time to start the game unlike nowadays) and Im happy they are back again. Haven't met one opponent yet but it's good to have a team that can bust them.
Elemine not letting Robin put ice is making her employed again 😂
I love it lol. Can't wait for her remix in March(assuming KCB is right)
"Hit & run is hurting right now... They're not doing amazing"
Same video: highlights brave Bernie (a hit & run unit) as an AR + summoner duel threat.
Maybe the first time I've disagreed with Joel. I promise you I'm not struggling right now lol. I'd argue it's been thriving since as early as yunaka's winter intro; deer boy, Niðavellir, aided Reginn, attuned Azura, brave Alphonse, & brave felix (i know, he's everything lol) have buffed this archetype tremendously. Unless you're running 2x canto control, I'm gonna hit & run all over you 🤣.
Otherwise great vid 😉
I can certainly be wrong. If you’ve got videos, send them my way!
My big concern with hit and run is how easy it is to move from one side of the map to the other. It’s makes the running part harder.
Best defense in AR is not being a boring uncreative coward hiding behind unbreakable save balls, best defense is actually unpredictability.
Units like BFelix, Celica ring/Guidance, BLapis, YEmmerin, and specially, current HoF Tina, can give your defense so many random unpredictable stuff the opponent will never see it coming.
For example in a previous season ARD replay, my Tina stole the warp bubble from a VMhyrr allowing all my units to warp in and 1 turn the player (imagine the face in him)
I'm using Attuned Eirika with Laguz Friend, supported by Seteth and co
Feels like she's invincible unless she gets doubled, which has only happened once lmao
The main issue is protecting the supports and have some sort of antiwarp source, because Felix with Celica ring is a ridiculous unit
I still wonder if BoL4 was released because of Lyon which makes me wonder if they actually thought about its impact for AoE. AoEs represented a way of having some old units still have power while deactivating a few ">25% HP" effects. In other words, it was easier to manage AR-O with no new toys, now it's not quite looking like that.
I want to see something negating BoL, mainly for player control. A new 1.7x AoE with said effect? An emblem effect which would enable it in one unit? W/e it could be, but sssomething!
My go to tank has been, believe it or not, still Attuned Caeda. I got 5 of her after emblem celica, I need to find a may to make use of this lol
And actually, she pairs amazingly with the new ice felicia, which helps with her spd and gives her NCD. All that is left in that unit now is breath of life, but I don't think it's worth it cause she doesn't have a really high Def, it's her worst stat actually.
But it's pretty fun to watch her enemies get really big numbers on the damage preview and reduce them to 0, I love it
One thing I will say about Brave Felix is that I don't think he's gonna age quite as well as everyone makes him out to be. With how many tools saves are getting right now, Felix might have trouble on offense and defense in killing these units. I have a +7 Brave Hector with Reopening and Near Save and Felix flat out fails to kill him.
It's a similar lifespan to Winter Edelgard where she eventually fell off because everyone and their mom began running more and more near saves. He'll always be a good unit, but I don't think he'll be the premier CYL unit for too long (unlike Robin who I think is gonna stay good because of all of her tools.)
It’ll really hinge on what kind of skills he gets. I did that big episode on CYL values over the first 2 years, and I was amazed at how much of it was just luck… and by luck I mean how much IS stacks the deck.
@@FEH Yeah that is a fair point. IS is unpredictable.
Excellent and informative video as always! In the best builds section, I was eyeing the Bernie offense team (I have her +4 and plan to max her) but don't have Mira, Nidvellir, or Heithrun. What roles do they serve on the team, and could I substitute them? I assume Mira is just a dancer, but I'm not well-versed in what that trio does... Thanks!
Duo Lyon, who used to be the nightmare of SD, is now nowhere to be seen on the list of most used units for SD. How the mighty have fallen and good for those who despise Duo Lyons back then😅
Such is the nature of FEH. Duo Lyons life cycle, their dominance and eventuall fall, reminds me very much of Duo Lifs, a Valentine unit as well, coincidentally.
Was sad to see how hard they nerfed him and so confused by howmany fehtubers still recommend flared sparrow in a world where duo lyon is considered dead
I never thought I'd say this, but the mode I've been enjoying the most lately is Summoner Duels S. I never enjoyed Summoner Duels in general, but every other game mode centers around the same one or two units and it just gets old. It's more fun to disqualify them in S and see what else your opponent comes up with.
I'm one of those guys who max invested Brave Tiki, and she really shines if you can remove specific units. The problem is, 4 or 5 of her hardest counters are among the most popular units in the game (Brave Felix, Attuned Micaiah, Heidrun, Legendary Male Shez, and elk man). That said, she positively wrecks Duo Fjorm, and Brave Female Robin can't do much against her either. In SDS she blindsided quite a few players who just had nothing in their backup teams to handle her.
Honestly for the last few months I’ve just been using my favorite +10 Edward as an omnitank I just sit out there. While i do make mistakes in positioning every once in a while, with the right support he’s been able to wipe out entire defense teams more often than not
F! Ike refine is goated. Stacking flat and special dr from gust, having dbl unity with Brave F! Robin giving out panic easily, he can almost always guarantee his special proc on retaliation regardless of hush scowl. B!F! Robin as support is huge for him, canto and ice walls lets me be able to force defense teams to only attack Ike as well. My build for him is Gust, atk/spd unity, lg4, bol4, ncd echo
Why you don’t talk about Fogado who is the best option against Fjorm?, he just erased Fjorm so well
And also the fact that he brings the key to defeat her is very interesting
I'm going to have to rebuild all my ARD teams so I can take out the saves flooding my castle. I had a good 2 weeks with the Felix+BCelica rally trap combo
Not a big deal but I think that to be really accurate there should be a clear distinction between standard Galeforce and Felix-Galeforce archetypes in the ranking bc standard Galeforce is 100% sinking. It's just that Felix specifically: ignores Anti-Warp (with increased mvt and refresh) + ignores Traps + counters Ice + doesn't necessarily rely on AoE so ignores BoL + has a better time at nuking Alfonse/Heidrunand while standard galeforcers get super hard countered by 2 or 3 against every serious defense.
Do you think Marni or Panetta are the better investments? I got a +10 BEdelgard (returning player) but she gets rolled by the competition and is borderline unusable as a near saver, so im thinking of getting Marni to replace her or just use Panette instead
@@SuluXuluS Shield Figther solves most of Brave Edelgard's problems unless you're like me and you prefer to run Black Eagle Rule because it makes her special 😆
lul i saw that infantry pasta once and though this is such an easy deff team to beatt. you need so many specific units you just don't get a dancer and then its super easy to bait out movement and just sweep the team after it moved out of the safety of it's starting position
Using W'Felix to piss off Oblivion (prob.) LMAO
You’ve got a sharp eye 😎
6:45 Bernie is the premier ranged nuke because she can do a lot of damage to Fjorm
0:56 (Bernie does 0 damage to Fjorm then dies)
It's been awhile since these have happened or my memory 😳, but anyway I really liked this meta report.
I missed August with all the stuff going on. We should be back to our regularly scheduled programming now 🙂
Since I don't have Gatrie at all in my barracks, how would an invested +3 A!Idunn with shield fighter + A/R scowl be against Felix? I have an extra Duo Fjorm but I'm unsure on who to fodder her off too.
Also thanks Joel for making a meta report today! I needed this especially after being perplexed by your defense on AR the other night lol.
@@Scarecrohh Your Idun will do fine with Shield Figther although the Scowl isn't necessary because Felix will still get his special off on the 2nd hit. I would trade that A skill for more bulk from Duo Fjorm's a skill
Bernie/ near save fjorm carried me through the last astra season
If I can still beat whale defenses using EIke as a f2p then I can't imagine Timerra being anything less than great. I dont really get why omni tanks are falling off because of Nergal when bonuses were never necessary to begin with.
All the best supports are drive buffers like Gatekeeper, Lumera, Seteth; all of whom can provide their support from 3 or more spaces away. In my experience, even against high threat range defenses, you can safely place them behind your omni tank as long as you only bring the minimum 3 buildings. Only some outliers like multiple Celica defenses have enough reach to actually cause trouble.
(Dark season Embla isn't even consistent at countering drive stacking either, from what I've seen)
Ever since the yukata banner i've been defaulting to "when in doubt, yukata mia"
This meta is a fucking disaster and I'm having about as little fun as I did back in the pathfinder Sigurdline days. Even the nukes are stupidly bulky and can't be killed. I'll charge my winter Edel in there and she only does 10 damage to Felix somehow, let alone kill him.
Almost every goddamn defense is the same stupid Robin/Felix copypasta bullshit, and the brave units are so stupidly strong just their mere existence can turn even a garbage tier map into something hard to beat. I spent an hour this morning on a literal meme map (guy was just showing off his highly invested Black Knight) because the brave crew was there and it's so stupidly hard to deal with them.
In my opinion and with the resources ive been able to get ( laguz friend and timerra ) its just felix he has way to much that extra action for free was a step to far and thats not even mentioning the celica ring on him
If it takes that long to beat its not a meme or a garbage tier map. The defensive team and the layout are symbiotic. Would the map be shit with a different team? Who cares, it has this team and thats what you need to find a way through. The offense is difficult right now, but thats the whole game. If the wins are free and easy, what is the point of playing? My simple advixe as someone returning to this game 2 months ago after not playing since like 2017: dont try to build a +10 of some unit you want to be a god. Spread out your resources and build a diversity of teams so you have tools to pick from and you will find answers to every defense. Also you do not need the 4th version of every skill WoM3 and other "outdated" skills still put in the work if you know what exactly you want the unit to be doing when youre building them
Wait until the new Emblem reveal tonight shakes up the meta even more. 💀 Assuming it is Lyn or Sigurd...we're in for some hellish effects to be introduced to make things even more crazier.
Even worse, I hear theories we may get 2 Emblems or an Emblem and a Mythic this month soooo....
Me looking at that Gatrie build to put it on Gilliam
If you would have told me, 3 years ago, that one of the best skill in the game would be breath of life, I would have laughed at you 😂
Anyhow, considering where the game is heading, maybe we'll get soon the arrival of tier 4 save skills? I can clearly see these skills crushing the meta... AGAIN!
Well... if I can tell how I would counter Brave Felix, I just use Hortensia's Arcane Weapon after you refine her with 200 Refining Stone or Loki is also a good option to defeat him easily after he's done moving after 2 turns, Duo Fjorm. Well, I just use my super overpowered melee tanks to take her out, As for Brave Bernie, I am still learning on how to counter her, but I think my best suggestion would be when Brave Bernie is not attacking for that turn I would just defeat her immediately before she triggers 4 attacks. With Emblem Celica effect on to that melee tanks. Oh Emblem Ike can be easily defeated by Legendary Female Shez or use Legendary Fire Lilina to aoe before he actives his speical skill, As for Heidrun she well, I just use units like Mystic Altina with a divine codes and a lot of investment on to her or even Legendary Wind Elincia can be a huge threat to her at least from that's what I have been doing to take down Heidrun out. Attuned Micaiah if you have Fire Legendary Hinoka she will get rekt by her easily since Attuned Micaiah is a Flying unit.
My mains tank atm:
Spring Framme
Fiora
Brave Celica
Shinon
Attuned Micaiah
Vantage Brave Bernie
Miracle Spam Marni is going to be on the next meta report 4sure
Pair her with Heidrun and it is almost impossible to kill her
what are the top near savers?
Timerra and heithun is all I got
Tank? I just give up . Herðrūn just soo strong and Bol4 immortally for everyone. Yayy
Funny you say Shez is good yet mine couldn’t even kill B Alfonse, him and Felix together in arena this week almost made me quit the game for good.
Like 42x4 with Luna activating twice and Alfonse shrugged it off. 😭💀
Fehology is best
To sumarize all the frustration I'm seeing in the comments.
"I have +10 X old Unit and they are not capable to win against the new units 🙄."
Please, U can't hope that ur favorite unit will be relevant forever, that's how powercreep works, one day the CLY 8 Units will lost relevance, new units will come and get their place and that's ok.
I'm 3rd year returnnee and I loved the new units and I having a lot of fun right now.
New fjords isn’t that good… I’ve tried using it and every way possible I use her, she just dies. I know she is an opponent turn initiates combat unit but melee just kills her so easy which with Felix is so easy to do. And emblem Ike