@@SpentAmbitionDrainwhich is a shame because he has some really knowledgeable staff. They just don’t have the time or opportunity to share that knowledge
@@SpentAmbitionDrain Linus: "Hear me out". PS Portal from Sony makes much more sense than you think... Meanwhile the rest of the world didn't think it made sense for the right reasons. Then you have IGN who gave the same score on both PS Portal and Asus Rog Ally...
It is sus indeed. I was going to wait for the ally X, to see if I should get it over the steam deck oled. But since the "reviews with embargoes, and cant talk about numbers"...guess who just got an steam deck oled yesterday 😅
Thats a great point im going to get the x but it will be my first hand held since the psp but i been thinking i may get and x and a steamdeck soon after because the steamdeck is the closest to perfect but the x has more performance
@@lamontieverett4949 The X willy have better performance and battery life. But it will also cost almost twice the price of the OLED 512GB. The OLED 512GB will have a better screen and software. You could always buy the Deck OLED 512GB now, use it for a year and then just wait for the next revision of the Ally X.
@@criticalgeek3914 The Steam Deck OLED is just a better mobile device. I won't be playing a AAA FPS or Alan Wake on a mobile gaming PC anyway. I will play games like Bloodstained which look amazing on an OLED screen.
At the release of the Deck OLED in Nov 2023, Valve said the Deck successor is still "years away" because the technology (read: portable performance with low battery draw) doesn't exist. And looking at the latest gen 8840U over the Ally's 7840U, Valve aren't wrong; the 8840U is essentially the same chip but with a NPU which is pointless on a gaming handheld. That said, knowing Valve's release timing of the OLED, I would be looking at Nov 2025 to Nov 2026 window.
It’s like those android phone a decade ago. With powerful performance but super short battery life. Guess we have to wait a few more generations till it gets mature.
Their terrible customer service and forcing anyone to pay nearly $200 for a repair fee for the device's broken LCD panel and the top case, or sending it back broken, are unacceptable. I'm glad they're getting sued for their anti-consumer repair decisions. The Steam Deck OLED is an excellent choice. 👍
@@vintageoriginallegit I bought a ROG Ally at launch. First one came with a broken joystick. Second one was okay, but man I couldn’t stand the random things that would come up that made it janky at times. Don’t get me wrong, I love the way it looked and felt, plus the screen was awesome. However it just didn’t work out for me. Add on the rough support from ASUS, I’ll take less performance for better support along with excellent battery life for the games I’m going to play on it.
@@DistinctionDino I still get flashbacks of trying to RMA my old Xiaomi phone due to headphone jack malfunction. Fuckers kept returning it, stating it's working. In the end I had to solder in a new one myself lol.
I just had to send my Ally in for the microSD card reader failing. I’m hoping my experience is better than others that have reached out to people like Gamers Nexus.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 ASUS need the money from us "consumers" to do anything, which is why they scrambled so hard when Gamers Nexus broke the story about the mountain of warranty and customer service issues.
And next year they release another one.. don't get me wrong! I like my ally. But I like the way steam does things better! Release something and actually stick with it and work on it! We really need to stop the (release a new device every year) trend! It's consumerism at its finest! The strategy with this is that we hold back stuff for the next device next year.. instead of making a device the best it can be! Because they want it to last a couple years.
The biggest problem with Windows handhelds ist still Windows OS. It is a resource hog, uses a non gamepad friendly UI and has abyssmal battery management.
look at all the FOMO ridden people pestering those who are happy with what they have lol, an annoying thing about PC gaming is the techies who shame you for not having the latest and greatest
Ive never contacted customer service tbh....they all useless....but asus does good devices.....original ally needs a bit of modification to sort heat out but if you know how to do that you are absolutely GOLDEN.👊like i done mine
Because ASUS are charging £250-300 more and your realistically going to get an additional 1-3fps in games. Pre-orderw aren't doing very well and they don't want it to get worse
This isn't new... This happens with every tech device out there. They send devices out for influencers to test them, but they use the NDA to prevent people from putting any real information. The problem is during this phase the device is constantly changing. Performance may increase or even decrease, it's not the final product.
If the switch 2 could run something like cyberpunk at a locked 30 medium graphics I'd be very happy for the switch 2s future.(Not saying cyberpunk should or would be on it but as a benchmark)
I bought the OG Ally (extreme) the day they announced this. New battery and extra RAM was tempting, but I was able to pick a brand new one at half that UK price.
Any chance you guys could evaluate the Ally with the XG Mobile eGPU? I believe the Ally X lets use m,ore 3rd party eGPUs with thunderbolt so really keen how Ally vs Ally X looks with eGPU
Xg mobile isn't really a realistic thing. They are seldom in stock, and crazy expensive for what you get (a mobile version of a gpu , with whiny fans for more than a 4090)
In your next benchmark video I’d love to see you guys test Baldur’s Gate 3 in Act 3 on both the original and X. Hopefully the speed and capacity increase helps with frame times there.
Everyone, DO NOT PRE-ORDER THIS!!!! I made the mistake of doing so with the original Ally. There will be many used ones selling for almost half the price. Plus, we have no idea if they are still lying about the battery life.
I will stick with my Legion Go PC Handheld. It doesn't matter how good Steam OS is, because i need Windows on a handheld for many reasons including superior compatibility vs Steam OS. No game needs certification on Windows handhelds as they are basically handheld laptops.
I have the original, my SD card reader doesn't work, and even though the Ally X is exactly what I would have wanted from the start, the only way I'm dropping another grand on a handheld is if I win the lottery. I have too many of these handhelds already and not the income to justify it. Obviously my own problem, but also with Asus going from my favourite and most trusted hardware company to being completely skeptical to distrusting of them has really been disappointing
Ill wait for the XXX version. Hopefully by then there is a real performance Boost 😉 Shouldn't be long wait anyways since it seems they are releasing these things yearly
Owning the OG Ally you would think ASUS would want reviewers to speak about performance considering that's the only reason to upgrade. Guess I just won't upgrade lol
lol digital foundry didn’t want to show the steam deck Bench mark compared to other handheld devices because they know it’s underpowered by a lot. They have to keep their brain dead steam deck audience asleep into thinking the steam deck is this powerful handheld device when it’s actually crap
Really hard to go back to a 7 inch display after using the Go since November. Hoping (at least) 8 inch screens become the norm. And they might, with Nintendo using an 8 inch display on the next Switch.
love my ally, looking forward so much to the ally x. if you are a windows power user you can tweak this to be an insane handheld to dock experience. guara tee anyone would look at the way I configured my ally and think it the best handheld ever
@@firstclaims30 first I use ntlite to debloat windows of unnecessary bloatware or services (advanced tool so ease into it), then I use playnite for my frontend (customized myself via open source themes), rewasd so I can group ally gamepad with external gamepad for seamless docking switch experience(allows for more intricate mapping between various platforms and macros) , intelligent memory cleaner to keep memory free as possible. also I only use armoury crate to set game profiles for each dock and handheld profile for performance tdp usage. I love booting up my ally on my TV using a dual shock 3 to play my PS1/2 emulated games, then pull the out of dock and seamlessly go in right into handheld play. in playnite I've customized hundreds of games to have perfectly scaled and performance backgrounds, logos, and icons, plugins to give me extra stats on home screens , boot into game screens. it looks and feels like professional switch PC experience
@@hiramabiff604 nah just a genuine fan and enjoyer of the ally. my favorite tech device ever so far. been building and power using Windows PCs for over twenty years. this device been the dream and now it's a reality.
its cool that you like your rog ally but you should not rush to get the upgraded version if asus are banning people from talking about how underwhelming it is
moral of the story, don't wait for this crap, buy one used for 400 and use it till it last, maybe in 2-3 years some strix point handled will be out , this is nonsense 900, lot better deal standard roll ally z1 extreme used, best bang for buck
Probably never , even building our own laptop is still not mass market still very expensive and from how GPU market price is still unstable. Bad times for PC gamers . For now i am stick to consoles
@@KayleighBourquinyou might want to check what Framework Laptop really is. You can change and customize virtually everything on the laptop on your own (save for the processor and screen), most components are built to be upgradeable. And they are already selling this. In the future, we might actually see a laptop that we can actually build by ourselves.
thanks. nice product update, terrible price. ASUS still thinks they are top dog. watching this made me more interesed in the legion go because its much cheaper or it may have a new version with a new APU and larger RAM
Yup, moved it with the new one but made sure it was known that it had nothing to do with the design flaw of the first one. Were supposed to believe it was moved due to space constraints 😂😂
What's the point of this video if you cant actually review it? now when you actually go and review it properly, you've kneecapped the response that video will get. Shitty tactic by asus but the correct way to respond is to not play their game and say that asus were too unconfident in their device to let you review it.
Nope absolutely not. I will never again buy any product by Asus under any circumstances. Plus performance is not better than the legion go from every test ive seen.
I would rather suggest people to AVOID asus pruducts. They haven't fixed the issue in a Asus rog laptop flow x13 charge issue discharging with the adapter while playing. Something happened when they update the laptop
Had an rog ally. It really sucked. My sd card slot stopped working, controller was not good, battery life was nothing like advertised, no dedicated dock, no kickstand. Sold it and went with a legion go and damn it’s great!
Lmao the steamdeck died as soon as the og ally released. I own both and the ally stomps the steamdeck. There is just no possible way valve can compete against this now
Hmm, I think I'll stick to me Steam Deck OLED. I only really play AA and smaller games, so it's pretty much perfect. AAA games very rarely interest me.
smidlee7747 The shift away from cutting edge graphics is a strong case for an AMD or Intel smartphone, or at least a pocketable handheld PC that trades off performance for size and battery life. It’s going to be weaker than handheld PCs, yet it won’t really matter because AAA games are dwindling.
Every think ally x will be better than steam oled bettery life and they're know the bettery life longer because the oled screen light unlike lcd takes huge bettery life power sd oled still better than ally x not on bettery only
So I have several questions for anyone that might have an answer: I've been thinking of getting an ROG Ally X for a bit now due to its portability and versatility. Specifically, I want to use it as a handheld (obviously), run it as a laptop of sorts for productivity complete with my own portable monitor, keyboard, and mouse, but also as a Steam streaming client for my living room TV, effectively turning it into a Switch. Of course, that means I'd need a dock, and there's my first question. Are there any docks that support HDMI 2.1? Would the Ally X be able to support the kind of bandwidth for that in the first place? Also, Rich's coverage on these devices has been excellent as usual, but I'm seeing a lot of focus on visual "tour de force" games on display. What about fighting games that demand 60 FPS to be playable? Has anyone tried running stuff like Tekken 8, Street Fighter 6 and the like on an Ally? Granted I'm sure with proper settings, these systems could steamroll over them and I could admittedly just look around, but I thought I'd ask.
Can't speak to the docks, but the Steam Deck can run SF6/Tekken 8 just fine at 60 as long as you're willing to turn settings/resolution down. So I'm sure the Ally can too.
Some people can't go without trackpads and some never touch them! I wish there were two SKUs of the Deck, one with touchpads and one without that's not as wide.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271upscaling is here to stay and it’s not bad at all especially when you have a smaller display or a large display with a high resolution
They want all channels to have enough time to do benchmarks and release them at the same time, so when benchmarks are available you can understand bigger picture looking at multiple reviews.
because more vram. is not going to give you that much of a fps boost in many scenarios. what it will allow is for more games to be compatible at base level
It's a nice little machine but $800 big ones. Just not worth that kind of money, to play everything on low settings, at 30fps for only about 2hrs of battery life. Until Valve delivers the real deal next level portable leap with the SD2 in a year or two, I'd rather pay a lot less for a SD OLED, for now
You never touched a Rog ally if you think all games are played low settings 30fps. The Rog ally wipes the floor with the steamdeck and easily hits 60+ fps on a lot of games. And older titles you can hit high to ultra settings with over 60fps. Indie games 120fps guaranteed maxed out. Steamdeck can’t compete with this son
@@firstclaims30 It doesn't wipe the floor with anything. There are hundreds of benchmarks available that show it barely outperforms the cheapest Steam Deck while getting like 40-80% lower battery life. You can do this teenage console fanboy bit if you want, but there's too much hard data. You aren't going to convince anybody with that crap lol.
just like you can’t come in here and try to convince others that the SD is better. We all know is not. Not even close son You talk that fanboi drama and you guys are the ones bringing it. Mad that your steamdeck will be obsolete so soon? That’s not our fault
This attempt from ASUS to get exposure without letting reviewers review it, really seems like someone who also would honour customer warranties. Guess I'm still avoiding any ASUS product
To be honest... I am very glad that this is not OLED. My eyes (and about about 2% of the population) are unable to use OLED due to sensitivity to something called PWM flickering. As OLED screens are still taking over handhelds, I don't think there are enough people who complained about this issue yet. There is no cure, settings, or resolution that I know of. A few minutes, my eyes would start to feel "off"... and then they will start to hurt a lot... afterwards, i would have a headache, and feel nauseous -- all within about 15 minutes or less. If I don't stop, my eyes would hurt or remain sensitive for days afterwards. I am guessing that this will be my last handheld for a long time as everyone and their mom wants OLED and ASUS will surely switch to OLED in the future.
What does this mean? You're waiting for a handheld that can play new games at 60 FPS? Well you're going to be waiting perpetually because that is never going to happen.
I'm still waiting for these companies to figure out a competent controller. They're basically glorified tablets strapped to MadCatz controllers at this point.
@@jon.... It can happen with frame generation, but that's about it. Battery life is the #1 problem, no doubt they'll want to solve that before they even think about increasing performance on modern games.
@@cezarstefanseghjucan Is 60 FPS the only thing you care about? Because there are a lot of unique qualities about portable gaming machines that make their performance basically irrelevant.
A lot of people bashing ROG for their rma… I bought a secondhand Ally from that pawn shop CEX in the uk.. obviously I wasn’t the og owner and I didn’t have the original bill of sale yet when I found my right trigger wasn’t registering a full press ROG collected, repaired and return my device in under 2 weeks!! It did have warranty with CEX but you know they wouldn’t honour a repair… so yeah.. no complaints about ROG from me. But now I want the X!! Not because it’s a huge update but because it’s an improvement on a machine I use a lot.
VRR and OLED doesn't mix so well. Also the vast majority of gamers will not care about VRR while the difference with OLED can be seen. Nintendo doesn't seem to care to make their handheld for the tiny minority. I have no trouble docking my laptop with VRR to my 65" LCD TV (no VRR) in my bedroom and have a good time and not thinking about frame rate , VRR nor even how fruity the colors are. I do have a OLED TV but I still game a lot on my LCD TV. Even the cheap LCD TV looks good.
@@Radek494 My point was the average person would notice the difference between LCD from OLED more than VRR. Nintendo would go with OLED before they care about VRR.
Asus should of made two models like the originals for people who don't want to spend the full $800 on a handheld system. Ally x 1tb z1 extreme $799 Ally x 1tb z1 non extreme $649
Honestly you are right. I bought the original Ally and the battery is God awful, and there are new ones on Ebay selling for almost half the price. If you want portability just buy a gaming laptop.
For me there are just way too many drawbacks for running Windows in a portable handheld gaming machine, from a user experience perspective and battery efficiency. Gonna wait for the Steam Deck 2 (gonna be waiting a while)
@@nicolasbonvarlet338because oled can't do vrr in a good way , without brightness flickering. And I think there simply had to be a panel available for them to buy, that they trust , and has the specs they want. The fact that the Steam Deck oled and the switch oled are using the exact same panel, shows that there isn't much to pick from in that size / form factor.
@@MicaelAzevedonah it depends. If you have the best pc money can buy. You don't need vrr as your pc can get you a good locked FPS. And in most games outside competitive after 120fps isn't it better to just get a better picture. A HDR oled screen can look absolutely amazing
I really wish Dell/Alienware and Razer could enter the handheld space. Alienware actually were the first to preview a pc handheld with the UFO but didn’t put it into production. What a shame cause they actually have decent support unlike ASUS.
So sorry ASUS RMA is so bad in the US. Here in Turkey (and I assume most of Europe), ASUS RMA's are one of the least problematic ones by far. They just don't like the US for some reason, I guess.
The ally x fixed everything that the OG ally fell short on, and the OG ally barely fell short on everything. This plus the continuous armory crate and updates, many that improve performance. Currently have a OG ally and I will keep it for now but in a year or so, if I can get a Ally X for like $500 or less I p will definitely make the switch, or the Ally 2 ofc
Does anyone endorse that, ASUS got rid of the XG-Mobile port & usage so early into the XG mobile life ? - keep in mind that there are other laptops that are affected as well.
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Asus: Don't benchmark it.
Linus: It was revealed to me in a dream that it runs like this.
Rich: Look at this frametime graph!
😂
Linus is a ad peddler.
@@SpentAmbitionDrainwhich is a shame because he has some really knowledgeable staff. They just don’t have the time or opportunity to share that knowledge
@@SpentAmbitionDrain Linus: "Hear me out". PS Portal from Sony makes much more sense than you think...
Meanwhile the rest of the world didn't think it made sense for the right reasons.
Then you have IGN who gave the same score on both PS Portal and Asus Rog Ally...
Handheld bas for gaming, under 60fps with lower resolution 720P. This very uncomfortable
Hope they increased the stick tension from the floppy 45 grams or so in the vanilla ROG.
I'm waiting for the Real Asus Rog Ally 2
"Please review our new thing but, also, don't review it."
Weird, as you'd think the massive improvements are the main selling points. And tbh, they could do with any good publicity right now.
It is sus indeed. I was going to wait for the ally X, to see if I should get it over the steam deck oled. But since the "reviews with embargoes, and cant talk about numbers"...guess who just got an steam deck oled yesterday 😅
Thats a great point im going to get the x but it will be my first hand held since the psp but i been thinking i may get and x and a steamdeck soon after because the steamdeck is the closest to perfect but the x has more performance
@@lamontieverett4949
The X willy have better performance and battery life. But it will also cost almost twice the price of the OLED 512GB.
The OLED 512GB will have a better screen and software.
You could always buy the Deck OLED 512GB now, use it for a year and then just wait for the next revision of the Ally X.
@@criticalgeek3914 The Steam Deck OLED is just a better mobile device. I won't be playing a AAA FPS or Alan Wake on a mobile gaming PC anyway. I will play games like Bloodstained which look amazing on an OLED screen.
Patiently waiting for the Steam Deck 2
Its gonna take quite some time see the Valve Index PPL are still waiting.
SteamOS for other handhelds will be even more exciting than a new Steam Deck
Steam Deck 1 is fine. You can always wait for better tech to arrive, but that's like a never ending cycle.
Dont know if that will ever happen, i think that work is done for valve with steam deck.
At the release of the Deck OLED in Nov 2023, Valve said the Deck successor is still "years away" because the technology (read: portable performance with low battery draw) doesn't exist.
And looking at the latest gen 8840U over the Ally's 7840U, Valve aren't wrong; the 8840U is essentially the same chip but with a NPU which is pointless on a gaming handheld.
That said, knowing Valve's release timing of the OLED, I would be looking at Nov 2025 to Nov 2026 window.
Sorry you looked at it wrong, we can't honor the warranty...
I never had anything from Asus that broke, so i don't know. I bought a Lenovo Legion PC Handheld instead and they honor warranties.
@@V3ntilator have you missed the past month?
@@deadlock_problem Missed what?
@@V3ntilator The issues regarding Asus's way of honoring warrenty. Gamer's Nexus covered this ^^
@@V3ntilatoroh you sweet summer child
Battery life is a real problem for gaming handhelds
It’s like those android phone a decade ago. With powerful performance but super short battery life. Guess we have to wait a few more generations till it gets mature.
Limitations of l-ion batteries
for $30 you can get a 20,000mAh 65W power bank that's still quite small and should extend the battery life considerably
Except the switch
@@-TriP- by 0.5x at best, not 8x :)
Tech channels should stop accepting this bs. Show our device but actually don't show it. Yes you are free to talk about it but don't talk about it.
you know theres a contract right? lol
Careful not to nick the plastic! You will be charged for a screen replacement if you warranty your device for joystick replacement.
You can just replace the joysticks yourself
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 YOU can do it for everyone so no-one has to waste their own time and money on it.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 why should you if it's under "warranty" ?
@@eliadbu its faster i guess.
@@eliadbu Because it is easily upgradeable and you might want hall effect joysticks.
Staying away from ASUS for right now lol.
Just bought a steam deck OLED!
Their terrible customer service and forcing anyone to pay nearly $200 for a repair fee for the device's broken LCD panel and the top case, or sending it back broken, are unacceptable.
I'm glad they're getting sued for their anti-consumer repair decisions.
The Steam Deck OLED is an excellent choice. 👍
But steam deck is so weak
@@vintageoriginallegit I bought a ROG Ally at launch. First one came with a broken joystick.
Second one was okay, but man I couldn’t stand the random things that would come up that made it janky at times.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the way it looked and felt, plus the screen was awesome. However it just didn’t work out for me.
Add on the rough support from ASUS, I’ll take less performance for better support along with excellent battery life for the games I’m going to play on it.
@@thedoomslayer108_YT agreed. 👍
Just bought a 512 OLED and going to get the Killswitch case from Dbrand!
How did you break the screen on your Ally?
I've heard Rich say "rog" so many times, I'd forgotten it's R O G, according to Asus. We've got ourselves a Nvidia Ti situation here.
They are wrong
@@damianabregba7476 Where's the confusion? "Ti" is obviously pronounced as "Ti".
I think you are splitting hairs here as Socom means The United States Special Operations Command
@@fireazaSome Nvidia engineer was saying "Tie" in official videos 😂
It hints to Rogue, doesn't it?
Not playing russian roulette with ASUS RMA department.
I feel you but I genuinely cannot remember the last time I sent any device for repair.
@@DistinctionDino I still get flashbacks of trying to RMA my old Xiaomi phone due to headphone jack malfunction. Fuckers kept returning it, stating it's working. In the end I had to solder in a new one myself lol.
I just had to send my Ally in for the microSD card reader failing. I’m hoping my experience is better than others that have reached out to people like Gamers Nexus.
@@DistinctionDino edge cases bro we have to worry about the edge cases. 😂
Maybe stop cooking for SD card reader. Zero reason to go above 30w tdp locked plugged in. You're just generating more heat
I'm always happy to see improved, ahem, "Frame Health/Consistency"!
Appreciate the testing, but ASUS can get in the bin. Their customer service record is atrocious.
If you were the customer, you wouldn't be called a consumer
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 ASUS need the money from us "consumers" to do anything, which is why they scrambled so hard when Gamers Nexus broke the story about the mountain of warranty and customer service issues.
Again, *taps the sign* , split the usa ,eu and other regions please. Completely different companies. Eu service and rma handling has been fine.
And next year they release another one.. don't get me wrong! I like my ally. But I like the way steam does things better! Release something and actually stick with it and work on it! We really need to stop the (release a new device every year) trend! It's consumerism at its finest! The strategy with this is that we hold back stuff for the next device next year.. instead of making a device the best it can be! Because they want it to last a couple years.
I have an ally I’ve got less than a week to RMA, lol.
Good luck. God speed.
they extended it to two years
@@thebham95I know they did in the states but is that also in uk?
@@thebham95 oh, shit! Thanks for that!
@@noticeddamian no, just the US which is a massive dick move for us in the UK
The biggest problem with Windows handhelds ist still Windows OS. It is a resource hog, uses a non gamepad friendly UI and has abyssmal battery management.
After sales support… just saying.
Yeah that's definitely a no deal for me
In America, land of shit consumer protection laws...just saying.
Don’t break it then
What’s a better alternative cause all sales support sucks
Consumers (cattle) have no protections
The Ally has everything a gamer wants: RGB LEDs, Windows 11, AI and tiny fans
Not a 65-inch OLED nor PHYSICAL MEDIA.
So stick with the PS5 + 65-inch C3 + Offline story driven single player games
@@RedPillAlways 65 inch oled is a bit cumbersome to hold between my hands really...
@finraziel mount it on something it works so much better
@@RedPillAlwaysYeah, like on a slave!
@@RedPillAlways I see you're not very good at detecting jokes.
Meh, more than happy with my OG Steam Deck LCD model until the next gen.
LCD is crap.
@@cezarstefanseghjucan It is not.
look at all the FOMO ridden people pestering those who are happy with what they have lol, an annoying thing about PC gaming is the techies who shame you for not having the latest and greatest
Very happy with my Rog Ally. Waiting for Ally 2
There's bound to be a full upgrade, new chipset, memory, screen, etc, probably around the 2 year point, don't see any point upgrading until then.
Here's a better question. Did they improve the customer service?
Ive never contacted customer service tbh....they all useless....but asus does good devices.....original ally needs a bit of modification to sort heat out but if you know how to do that you are absolutely GOLDEN.👊like i done mine
I find it weird that there are so many restrictions with ROG Ally X overviews…
Because ASUS are charging £250-300 more and your realistically going to get an additional 1-3fps in games.
Pre-orderw aren't doing very well and they don't want it to get worse
This isn't new... This happens with every tech device out there. They send devices out for influencers to test them, but they use the NDA to prevent people from putting any real information. The problem is during this phase the device is constantly changing. Performance may increase or even decrease, it's not the final product.
@@bunglepandasince it was never announced to be faster , I'm pleasantly surprised by the improvements the ram brings.
@@jorismakyes, but not worth an extra £300!!! That's insane
@@bunglepanda just wait for it to drop.
Imagine buying an ASUS product
If the switch 2 could run something like cyberpunk at a locked 30 medium graphics I'd be very happy for the switch 2s future.(Not saying cyberpunk should or would be on it but as a benchmark)
A VRAM benchmark video?
huh ?
What would he be benchmarking in such a video?
ANNND the SteamDeck OLED is still the best option... awkward.
I bought the OG Ally (extreme) the day they announced this. New battery and extra RAM was tempting, but I was able to pick a brand new one at half that UK price.
Any chance you guys could evaluate the Ally with the XG Mobile eGPU? I believe the Ally X lets use m,ore 3rd party eGPUs with thunderbolt so really keen how Ally vs Ally X looks with eGPU
Xg mobile isn't really a realistic thing. They are seldom in stock, and crazy expensive for what you get (a mobile version of a gpu , with whiny fans for more than a 4090)
In your next benchmark video I’d love to see you guys test Baldur’s Gate 3 in Act 3 on both the original and X.
Hopefully the speed and capacity increase helps with frame times there.
ASUS rog ally x is the best-looking handheld. it only needs new Apu and bezels oled screen to be the best
Everyone, DO NOT PRE-ORDER THIS!!!! I made the mistake of doing so with the original Ally. There will be many used ones selling for almost half the price. Plus, we have no idea if they are still lying about the battery life.
Stop telling secrets
Hm... still Steam Deck Oled wins overall.
It's ASUS, that's all I need to know.
Minor refresh to fix problems. Get the x if you want a windows handheld. If you're wary of the rma process, get a steam deck.
Bro , in Armory carte you Can select how much ram Should be used for each game
I will stick with my Legion Go PC Handheld. It doesn't matter how good Steam OS is, because i need Windows on a handheld for many reasons including superior compatibility vs Steam OS. No game needs certification on Windows handhelds as they are basically handheld laptops.
I have the original, my SD card reader doesn't work, and even though the Ally X is exactly what I would have wanted from the start, the only way I'm dropping another grand on a handheld is if I win the lottery.
I have too many of these handhelds already and not the income to justify it.
Obviously my own problem, but also with Asus going from my favourite and most trusted hardware company to being completely skeptical to distrusting of them has really been disappointing
As an owner of a ROG Phone, I definitely don't pronounce it as R.O.G. 😂
Citing LTT, the decline of DF continues
Literally Steam Deck Butcher. How bad and overpriced is 1Tb 700 bucks Deck?
Ill wait for the XXX version. Hopefully by then there is a real performance Boost 😉
Shouldn't be long wait anyways since it seems they are releasing these things yearly
Owning the OG Ally you would think ASUS would want reviewers to speak about performance considering that's the only reason to upgrade. Guess I just won't upgrade lol
lol digital foundry didn’t want to show the steam deck Bench mark compared to other handheld devices because they know it’s underpowered by a lot. They have to keep their brain dead steam deck audience asleep into thinking the steam deck is this powerful handheld device when it’s actually crap
I see in BestBuy the Rog Ally X has 4GB of v ram, is this correct? Does the BestBuy Rog Ally X have 8GB of vram or 4GB of vram?
I’ll comfortably wait for Legion Go 2 before I have upgrade my Legion Go.
Really hard to go back to a 7 inch display after using the Go since November. Hoping (at least) 8 inch screens become the norm. And they might, with Nintendo using an 8 inch display on the next Switch.
@@catch82 facts! And allegedly, the Go even makes for an exceptional Switch in itself to enjoy your titles on its 8 inch screen! 😂
Man I really want to pull the trigger on this one but I will kick myself if the Claw 8 AI matches or outperforms it. I want that 8inch vrr screen.
I'm glad to see how big a jump has been made in so little time.
love my ally, looking forward so much to the ally x. if you are a windows power user you can tweak this to be an insane handheld to dock experience. guara tee anyone would look at the way I configured my ally and think it the best handheld ever
I love my Rog ally. Best handheld ever made.
How did you configure yours ?
Okay asus marketing director.
@@firstclaims30 first I use ntlite to debloat windows of unnecessary bloatware or services (advanced tool so ease into it), then I use playnite for my frontend (customized myself via open source themes), rewasd so I can group ally gamepad with external gamepad for seamless docking switch experience(allows for more intricate mapping between various platforms and macros) , intelligent memory cleaner to keep memory free as possible. also I only use armoury crate to set game profiles for each dock and handheld profile for performance tdp usage. I love booting up my ally on my TV using a dual shock 3 to play my PS1/2 emulated games, then pull the out of dock and seamlessly go in right into handheld play.
in playnite I've customized hundreds of games to have perfectly scaled and performance backgrounds, logos, and icons, plugins to give me extra stats on home screens , boot into game screens. it looks and feels like professional switch PC experience
@@hiramabiff604 nah just a genuine fan and enjoyer of the ally. my favorite tech device ever so far. been building and power using Windows PCs for over twenty years. this device been the dream and now it's a reality.
its cool that you like your rog ally but you should not rush to get the upgraded version if asus are banning people from talking about how underwhelming it is
moral of the story, don't wait for this crap, buy one used for 400 and use it till it last, maybe in 2-3 years some strix point handled will be out , this is nonsense 900, lot better deal standard roll ally z1 extreme used, best bang for buck
Sure, but it's ASUS. Never buying from them. I've had enough of the struggles with their Customer Service.
How long until we can just build our own handheld PC?
Can we build laptops yet?
Probably never , even building our own laptop is still not mass market still very expensive and from how GPU market price is still unstable. Bad times for PC gamers . For now i am stick to consoles
A guy did it already with framework it's on UA-cam
@@officerminiwheats A guy, one guy, did it. Truly a universally accessible and easy to do thing that we'll all be using now. 🙄
@@KayleighBourquinyou might want to check what Framework Laptop really is. You can change and customize virtually everything on the laptop on your own (save for the processor and screen), most components are built to be upgradeable. And they are already selling this.
In the future, we might actually see a laptop that we can actually build by ourselves.
thanks. nice product update, terrible price. ASUS still thinks they are top dog. watching this made me more interesed in the legion go because its much cheaper or it may have a new version with a new APU and larger RAM
Fk this company the fact they still dont publicly admit the design issue with the SD Card heat issue is insane
Yup, moved it with the new one but made sure it was known that it had nothing to do with the design flaw of the first one. Were supposed to believe it was moved due to space constraints 😂😂
An asus pile of shit that will be designed poorly, break and won't be repaired. Ontop of having dogshit OS. No thanks I'll stick with the steam deck.
What's the point of this video if you cant actually review it? now when you actually go and review it properly, you've kneecapped the response that video will get.
Shitty tactic by asus but the correct way to respond is to not play their game and say that asus were too unconfident in their device to let you review it.
Nope absolutely not. I will never again buy any product by Asus under any circumstances. Plus performance is not better than the legion go from every test ive seen.
I would rather suggest people to AVOID asus pruducts. They haven't fixed the issue in a Asus rog laptop flow x13 charge issue discharging with the adapter while playing. Something happened when they update the laptop
Had an rog ally. It really sucked. My sd card slot stopped working, controller was not good, battery life was nothing like advertised, no dedicated dock, no kickstand. Sold it and went with a legion go and damn it’s great!
X is not worth it then.
That's rediculous, send a review unit to DIGITAL FOUNDRY and don't allow them to benmark it
STEAM Deck takes a STEAMing dump on this thing. Can’t beat the software, battery optimization, and screen.
Lmao the steamdeck died as soon as the og ally released. I own both and the ally stomps the steamdeck. There is just no possible way valve can compete against this now
@@firstclaims30
Hmm, I think I'll stick to me Steam Deck OLED. I only really play AA and smaller games, so it's pretty much perfect. AAA games very rarely interest me.
Also it seems there are going to be less triple A titles in the near future. They are getting too long and expensive to develop making them too risky.
@@smidlee7747 I certainly hope so. It's very rare I'm impressed by anything high budget nowadays.
smidlee7747 The shift away from cutting edge graphics is a strong case for an AMD or Intel smartphone, or at least a pocketable handheld PC that trades off performance for size and battery life. It’s going to be weaker than handheld PCs, yet it won’t really matter because AAA games are dwindling.
Every think ally x will be better than steam oled bettery life and they're know the bettery life longer because the oled screen light unlike lcd takes huge bettery life power sd oled still better than ally x not on bettery only
So I have several questions for anyone that might have an answer: I've been thinking of getting an ROG Ally X for a bit now due to its portability and versatility. Specifically, I want to use it as a handheld (obviously), run it as a laptop of sorts for productivity complete with my own portable monitor, keyboard, and mouse, but also as a Steam streaming client for my living room TV, effectively turning it into a Switch. Of course, that means I'd need a dock, and there's my first question. Are there any docks that support HDMI 2.1? Would the Ally X be able to support the kind of bandwidth for that in the first place?
Also, Rich's coverage on these devices has been excellent as usual, but I'm seeing a lot of focus on visual "tour de force" games on display. What about fighting games that demand 60 FPS to be playable? Has anyone tried running stuff like Tekken 8, Street Fighter 6 and the like on an Ally? Granted I'm sure with proper settings, these systems could steamroll over them and I could admittedly just look around, but I thought I'd ask.
Can't speak to the docks, but the Steam Deck can run SF6/Tekken 8 just fine at 60 as long as you're willing to turn settings/resolution down. So I'm sure the Ally can too.
How silent is silent mode now? Does the right fan still make that little 1300 Hz noise?
also, dont put any game that is over 30gb on an microsd card, it won't work, you'll only get 2 frames per second.
What do you mean
Would never consider a handheld without Touchpads after using deck.
That was my fear in buying the Ally. But so far, the lack of touch pads hasn't been a problem for the games I'm playing.
The problem is how often you have to interact with the desktop and how intrinsically inconvenient sticks are for that.
Some people can't go without trackpads and some never touch them!
I wish there were two SKUs of the Deck, one with touchpads and one without that's not as wide.
@kylerclarke2689 it is touchscreen.
Steam deck is trash power now
We need fsr 3.1 testing, dlss no longer a selling point is a big deal
No, we don't need sub native resolution games. We need optimized games
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 speak for yourself, upscaling tech is important wether you like it or not
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271upscaling is here to stay and it’s not bad at all especially when you have a smaller display or a large display with a high resolution
Alex said he wanted to do a video about it, but they had to finish ongoing projects first.
@@jorismak shame, its going to take a while then
Why release this video if it's heavily info strepped by nda, that's just free marketing for asus and entertainment for some lesser informed people
Richard... take some days off. Go on holiday. Get your voice back. 😂
FPS displayed in The Wrap Up section for SpiderMan 🤓
Always weird for me here british say zedd instead of just zzz
Not letting bench marks or is shady. What they hiding? I'd it was good, you'd WANT people knowing this. This kills my hype big time
They want all channels to have enough time to do benchmarks and release them at the same time, so when benchmarks are available you can understand bigger picture looking at multiple reviews.
We already know how the original Ally performs. This will be the exact same except for a lower chance of a RAM bottleneck.
because more vram. is not going to give you that much of a fps boost in many scenarios. what it will allow is for more games to be compatible at base level
They did the same with the og ally kid
@@ninele7 they are also probably still working on firmware tweaks.
It's a nice little machine but $800 big ones. Just not worth that kind of money, to play everything on low settings, at 30fps for only about 2hrs of battery life. Until Valve delivers the real deal next level portable leap with the SD2 in a year or two, I'd rather pay a lot less for a SD OLED, for now
You never touched a Rog ally if you think all games are played low settings 30fps. The Rog ally wipes the floor with the steamdeck and easily hits 60+ fps on a lot of games. And older titles you can hit high to ultra settings with over 60fps. Indie games 120fps guaranteed maxed out. Steamdeck can’t compete with this son
@@firstclaims30 It doesn't wipe the floor with anything. There are hundreds of benchmarks available that show it barely outperforms the cheapest Steam Deck while getting like 40-80% lower battery life.
You can do this teenage console fanboy bit if you want, but there's too much hard data. You aren't going to convince anybody with that crap lol.
just like you can’t come in here and try to convince others that the SD is better. We all know is not. Not even close son You talk that fanboi drama and you guys are the ones bringing it. Mad that your steamdeck will be obsolete so soon? That’s not our fault
Raaaaaaawg
I can't believe they copied the msi claw.
Hey thats pretty cool.
*continues to play Steam Deck*
This attempt from ASUS to get exposure without letting reviewers review it, really seems like someone who also would honour customer warranties. Guess I'm still avoiding any ASUS product
steamdeck mini please
i aint buying anything named Rog Ally.
So why are you here ?
@@firstclaims30 why are you
I see no benches marked here
To be honest... I am very glad that this is not OLED. My eyes (and about about 2% of the population) are unable to use OLED due to sensitivity to something called PWM flickering. As OLED screens are still taking over handhelds, I don't think there are enough people who complained about this issue yet. There is no cure, settings, or resolution that I know of. A few minutes, my eyes would start to feel "off"... and then they will start to hurt a lot... afterwards, i would have a headache, and feel nauseous -- all within about 15 minutes or less. If I don't stop, my eyes would hurt or remain sensitive for days afterwards.
I am guessing that this will be my last handheld for a long time as everyone and their mom wants OLED and ASUS will surely switch to OLED in the future.
until games run at a minimum 60+ fps I'm holding out, but this is still incredible can't wait to see what comes next!
What does this mean? You're waiting for a handheld that can play new games at 60 FPS? Well you're going to be waiting perpetually because that is never going to happen.
I'm still waiting for these companies to figure out a competent controller. They're basically glorified tablets strapped to MadCatz controllers at this point.
@@jon.... It can happen with frame generation, but that's about it. Battery life is the #1 problem, no doubt they'll want to solve that before they even think about increasing performance on modern games.
@@jon....No one should buy stuff that don’t play game at 60 FPS.
@@cezarstefanseghjucan Is 60 FPS the only thing you care about? Because there are a lot of unique qualities about portable gaming machines that make their performance basically irrelevant.
Has the rog x fixed the sd problem
A lot of people bashing ROG for their rma… I bought a secondhand Ally from that pawn shop CEX in the uk.. obviously I wasn’t the og owner and I didn’t have the original bill of sale yet when I found my right trigger wasn’t registering a full press ROG collected, repaired and return my device in under 2 weeks!! It did have warranty with CEX but you know they wouldn’t honour a repair… so yeah.. no complaints about ROG from me.
But now I want the X!! Not because it’s a huge update but because it’s an improvement on a machine I use a lot.
I don't know if a native VRR screen for Switch 2 is a realistic expectation from Nintendo, but I'd sure like that very much.
VRR and OLED doesn't mix so well. Also the vast majority of gamers will not care about VRR while the difference with OLED can be seen.
Nintendo doesn't seem to care to make their handheld for the tiny minority. I have no trouble docking my laptop with VRR to my 65" LCD TV (no VRR) in my bedroom and have a good time and not thinking about frame rate , VRR nor even how fruity the colors are. I do have a OLED TV but I still game a lot on my LCD TV. Even the cheap LCD TV looks good.
@@smidlee7747Switch 2 is rumoured to be LCD not OLED
@@Radek494 My point was the average person would notice the difference between LCD from OLED more than VRR. Nintendo would go with OLED before they care about VRR.
@@smidlee7747 Ah okay I see now
@@smidlee7747 We're not even sure in the new system will have an OLED screen, the first leaks only mentioned LCD.
Asus should of made two models like the originals for people who don't want to spend the full $800 on a handheld system. Ally x 1tb z1 extreme $799
Ally x 1tb z1 non extreme $649
This product is waste of money, don't buy it... 💩
Honestly you are right. I bought the original Ally and the battery is God awful, and there are new ones on Ebay selling for almost half the price. If you want portability just buy a gaming laptop.
For me there are just way too many drawbacks for running Windows in a portable handheld gaming machine, from a user experience perspective and battery efficiency. Gonna wait for the Steam Deck 2 (gonna be waiting a while)
The OLED screen is really a big missed opportunity. Guess the battery life would have been even better with it :/
You either choose Oled or VRR. A true gamer chooses VRR.
@@MicaelAzevedo why not both ? And what is a "true gamer" ?
@@nicolasbonvarlet338because oled can't do vrr in a good way , without brightness flickering. And I think there simply had to be a panel available for them to buy, that they trust , and has the specs they want. The fact that the Steam Deck oled and the switch oled are using the exact same panel, shows that there isn't much to pick from in that size / form factor.
@@MicaelAzevedonah it depends. If you have the best pc money can buy. You don't need vrr as your pc can get you a good locked FPS. And in most games outside competitive after 120fps isn't it better to just get a better picture. A HDR oled screen can look absolutely amazing
@@rhysjones8506 we are talking about handled devices lol
I really wish Dell/Alienware and Razer could enter the handheld space. Alienware actually were the first to preview a pc handheld with the UFO but didn’t put it into production. What a shame cause they actually have decent support unlike ASUS.
So sorry ASUS RMA is so bad in the US. Here in Turkey (and I assume most of Europe), ASUS RMA's are one of the least problematic ones by far. They just don't like the US for some reason, I guess.
The ally x fixed everything that the OG ally fell short on, and the OG ally barely fell short on everything. This plus the continuous armory crate and updates, many that improve performance. Currently have a OG ally and I will keep it for now but in a year or so, if I can get a Ally X for like $500 or less I p will definitely make the switch, or the Ally 2 ofc
Does anyone endorse that, ASUS got rid of the XG-Mobile port & usage so early into the XG mobile life ? - keep in mind that there are other laptops that are affected as well.
AyaNeo WHAT!?
Kun
now how about a comparison between the EXTREME version and the X. y'know, the one that folk will be upgrading FROM
SD card placement still looks wrong, just by the vent again.
It never was a heat issue...
Ordered a refurb ally z1x for 380. Hasn't broke the bank and I will mostly be near power source. Looking forward to it.