1991 Tour de France

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  • 1991 edition of the Tour de France

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  • @DrAnGeber
    @DrAnGeber 4 роки тому +21

    I just love the overall aesthetic of 90's Tour de France. The Clothes the spectators and cyclists wear, the colors, the style of the TV-Broadcasting EVERYTHING. A view to summers I've never experienced.

    • @LukezyM
      @LukezyM 3 роки тому +1

      But if you think about it, not much has changed in 30 years.

  • @hapuka66jones37
    @hapuka66jones37 5 років тому +30

    To be able to finally see these legendary events in video of such high quality is a privilege and pleasure indeed. Making these historic races available is a service to cycling fans everywhere, and a tribute to the great riders of the past.

    • @classiccycling48592
      @classiccycling48592  5 років тому +8

      Happy to share these. I am sure that a lot of fans would like to see them as well. Thank you

    • @BleakVision
      @BleakVision Рік тому +2

      There was a guy called chickasmith who uploaded hundreds of Individual states of past tour the france. But iTV or someone had him axed.
      The Tour de france should put these up themselves, there clearly is demand. But as we all know cycling is the worst when it comes to Promotion of the sport.

    • @BryonCarter-we5eb
      @BryonCarter-we5eb 11 місяців тому +1

      Agreed. They may all been doped, but the racing was fantastic. I guess I the first to state that opinion.

  • @davidlockwood2799
    @davidlockwood2799 Рік тому +4

    I got my nickname from that tour...
    I am Dave De Tour.
    I rode all the stages same day bout an hour or two ahead of the race.
    The pros had a rabbit...
    They caught me a few times a few km from the Stage finishes. We'd laugh at each other & I'd say things like" took you long enough " ha ha
    Greg Lemond crying at col de la joux plan ? Me too. That will break you i am glad I have that in common w/ Lemond. That & stage to Val Loron were HARD. I was amazed i survived that day, with no clue where i was going, im from California, i rode Tourmalet the Year before & Aubisque my first time there.
    Also in 92 I couldn't go on beyond St Jean Maureen either. Many unreal memories like playing cards & drinking a beer or 2 w/ Phil Anderson in Gap. Getting to Alpe'dHuez & a Sit down in the back area of finish line w/ Bernard Hinault. Catching Maurizio Fondriest on the finish line at Alpe'dHuez, Getting photos holding his baby daughter the next morning in Bourg de Oisans. Riding up Champs Elysees on final stage about hour before they got there...
    Got interviewed by Phil Liggett & Paul Sherwin. Meeting them at Tour de California in Modesto 2012 ?
    Paul remembered me.
    Getting a Yellow jersey from Miguel.
    Hanging out w/ him in private after 1992 finish on Champs Elysees.
    Beautiful Tour.
    So much more...
    For Dave de Tour.
    I feel like the "Rocky Balboa" of bike racing.

  • @russellmoore1533
    @russellmoore1533 5 років тому +12

    Myself and three friends followed a lot of this tour on our bikes, well at least as long as possible, as we couldn't keep up at times and took a train from Pau across to the Alps. We even go to ride L' Alpe d' Huez the day after the tour did.

    • @chocolatetownforever7537
      @chocolatetownforever7537 4 роки тому

      Thats awesome man. You climbed L Alp d' Huez? What is that like? Is it as nasty as it looks?

    • @russellmoore1533
      @russellmoore1533 4 роки тому +2

      @@chocolatetownforever7537 By the time we got to LAdH, I had about 8,000kms of bicycle touring in my legs in about 8 weeks of cycling in the UK and France. so I was pretty fit for someone who was 39 at the time. The gradients on the LAdH are not that steep, there is just a lot of switchbacks which make it look bad. A must visit if you are a true cycling nutter.

    • @chocolatetownforever7537
      @chocolatetownforever7537 4 роки тому +1

      Absolutely awesome story man, and thank you for it.

  • @gattaflusio7720
    @gattaflusio7720 9 місяців тому +2

    It's impressive to see how Miguel Hindurain improved in TT from 1991 to 1992 an years next.
    In these long TT he gained just few seconds to Bugno e Chiappucci, in 1992 at Lac de Madine TT he won with over 4 minutes of advantage... there' s something to think about.
    In 1991 TT Miguel was strong, the man to beat but human, in 1992 and next he was unbeatable.
    In my opinion dope helped him in his improvements.

  • @literoadie3502
    @literoadie3502 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for the uploads!

  • @stivs06
    @stivs06 Рік тому +1

    Greg an absolute legend! Thanks for the memories!!!

  • @sbsb4995
    @sbsb4995 4 роки тому

    Great stuff. Thanks for sharing.

  • @mggailitis7231
    @mggailitis7231 5 років тому +22

    IV injection of liquid food. That's whats called a euphemism.

    • @MrUbersven
      @MrUbersven 4 роки тому +3

      Probably a batch of bad blood bags 😬

    • @jorymil
      @jorymil 2 місяці тому

      PDM... one of the most prolific doping teams. LeMond left them in '88 for that reason. Makes you wonder about Breukink, who was so good in 1990.

  • @timetrialist
    @timetrialist 2 роки тому +4

    That looks dope!

  • @geoffhill6992
    @geoffhill6992 2 роки тому +2

    great memories of phil andersons stage 10 win awesome stuff and thanks for this

  • @zacharycat603
    @zacharycat603 Рік тому +6

    The tours from 1991-1995 were some of the least suspenseful as Miguel Indurain dominated them due to his physical superiority over the rest of the field. His cardiac output was 50 litres a minute, his lung capacity almost 8 litres and he had a resting pulse of 28. The tours of that time featured between 150 and 200 km of time trialling which suited Indurain perfectly.

    • @Mac-jc8hd
      @Mac-jc8hd 3 місяці тому +1

      plus he successfully doped...

    • @leonardobaracchi7040
      @leonardobaracchi7040 Місяць тому

      Doped otherwise, even if Miguel was a phenomenal rouleur, Lemond and Bugno would have won. Indurain Is supposed to climb really slow, being that big (but then we saw riis, Armstrong and others...)

  • @timdixo
    @timdixo Рік тому +6

    The amount EPO used by winner tended to correlate with the enthusiasm of their podium celebrations.
    The subdued reactions reflected their inner guilt. Exhibit A…Big Mig,always the “humble” farmer on the podium.

  • @funksoulbrother3620
    @funksoulbrother3620 3 місяці тому +2

    This was the year that the EPO kicked in

  • @nathanhobson1142
    @nathanhobson1142 2 роки тому +5

    The turning point year. The old guard versus the new blood (doping) and epo.

    • @jorymil
      @jorymil 2 місяці тому

      So true. This is the year when I started to lose interest. Would be curious if Andy Hampsten was doping during this time.

  • @TesterAnimal1
    @TesterAnimal1 Рік тому +4

    LOL! PDM “intravenous injection of liquid food”.
    I wonder whether Phil rolled his eyes when hearing that? He always comes across as never seeing anything dodgy…

    • @jonboyjon1976
      @jonboyjon1976 11 місяців тому +1

      Considering how far Phil was prepared to defend Lance Armstrong right up to the end, I doubt it.

  • @scuffediceposeidon9178
    @scuffediceposeidon9178 2 роки тому +1

    The tour looked much more anticipated and better atmosphere then nowadays. Not only because of covid. Just in general. I was unfortunately too young to be there.

  • @BleakVision
    @BleakVision Рік тому

    15 minutes in and there are already mysterious form improvements galore!

  • @sofalugger
    @sofalugger 5 років тому +3

    Brilliant. . .Great Halcyon Days. . Can,t remember Steven Roche being kicked off for being LATE!!

  • @BleakVision
    @BleakVision Рік тому +6

    18:00 intravenous injection of *liqid food*😂😂😂😂
    Well technically, blood is carrying nutrients😅

    • @Abnsdllnnlosnfd
      @Abnsdllnnlosnfd 3 місяці тому +1

      The notorious PDM team.
      PDM aka "Pills, Drugs and Medicine", or in Dutch: "Prestaties Door Manipulaties" ("Performances through manipulation"), or in French "Plein de Manipulations de Dopage"🤭

  • @BleakVision
    @BleakVision Рік тому +2

    There were early cellphones in 1991 and space shuttles were launched every two months, but Shimano still hadn't figured out STI shifters. Shame!

    • @ralphc1405
      @ralphc1405 10 місяців тому

      By 1991 their STI brifters were fully working while Campagnolo's attempt to copy index shifting fell flat with their syncro levers. By 1992 Campy had their Ergopower brifters...the rest is history.

    • @jorymil
      @jorymil 2 місяці тому

      Not true. If you look at some of the bikes from 1990, riders had STI.

  • @shane-irish
    @shane-irish 2 роки тому

    Great

  • @TesterAnimal1
    @TesterAnimal1 Рік тому

    Back when 25C (77F) was a standard temperature in July in France and rain might happen… 😪

  • @johnraw98
    @johnraw98 Рік тому +1

    Poor Greg, couldn’t compete against EPO.

  • @Sills71
    @Sills71 3 роки тому +4

    PDM got the dosing wrong.... or the blood bags were contaminated......

  • @carlosfigueroa790
    @carlosfigueroa790 5 років тому +2

    This is Miguel Indurain. No 1 Que viva España!!

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 5 років тому

      @daAnder71 any proof indurain was on epo? I don't think so.

    • @wk633
      @wk633 4 роки тому +5

      @@drunkensailor112 no- but if you think he wasn't, have I got a bridge to sell you!

    • @mattieaflo
      @mattieaflo 4 роки тому +2

      Dopage!

    • @death2pc
      @death2pc 2 роки тому +1

      @@wk633 There's some terrific swampland he can also buy............ Actually, he already has.

    • @BryonCarter-we5eb
      @BryonCarter-we5eb 11 місяців тому

      Que viva Espanan?
      Que viva Indurain?

  • @luisgonzalezalvarez1596
    @luisgonzalezalvarez1596 11 місяців тому

    it is sure miguel won that tour in tourmalet due to the misanderstanding between figon, bugno, lemon who left indurain and chiappucci won seconds by seconds on the flat road before the ascension to the tourmalet..it's a shame fignon did not have a good team as indurain to go further

  • @simoneortolani3604
    @simoneortolani3604 8 місяців тому

    I think chiappucci could pull a gap over indurain at the end of Val Louron ascent, but chose not to do

  • @jonmartin2446
    @jonmartin2446 5 років тому +3

    It's marvelous listening Lemond before Val Loruon stage. Delgado and Indurain are tired. Delgado was, no doubt about it. It's going to be more tactical than fisic. Great stage Jaca-Val Louron. There's no posibility to hide in an stage like that. Like recient Tour the France races...........

    • @scuffediceposeidon9178
      @scuffediceposeidon9178 2 роки тому

      Epo started maybe even long before 1991. I'm born in 88 and can't speak about because I'm too young and I don't trust Wikipedia, Twitter etc but certain insiders claim Epo was common use around end of 80s beginning 90s

    • @holmbjerg
      @holmbjerg Рік тому

      @@scuffediceposeidon9178 It was used as early as 1988 by some Dutch teams. It was only invented in 1987, so it could not have been used before than. In the beginning of the 80's blood doping had become pretty effective. And everybody had taken some amfetamin from time to time since the 1950's.

  • @JB-uv4hm
    @JB-uv4hm 3 роки тому +1

    There’s that “class act” Lemond calling Chiappucci cappuccino day after day.

    • @jorymil
      @jorymil 2 місяці тому

      Well... Chiappucci did basically try to beat LeMond while LeMond flatted.

  • @vrusimov
    @vrusimov 5 років тому +8

    I think Lemond did a little too much work in the early part of TDF '91. His team was a mere shadow of the team that clinically broke Chiappucci the year before. Tactically, he made mistakes on the Tourmalet, got caught out and his tour was over. If he had not attacked and simply stayed in contact with Indurain and others over the Tourmalet, maybe the tour would have ended differently...and he could have saved himself on the flat stages into the Alps instead of having to go on the attack to gain mere seconds. After Val Louron there was only Alpe D'Huez really to fear. I think Lemond never really believed that Indurain, given his height and weight, had any real chance of winning the tour. He was always obsessed with Delgado, who ironically, never really threatened Lemond in any tour he rode against him. Luz Ardiden the year before should have clued Lemond in to the fact that Indurain was showing signs of turning into a legitimate threat.

    • @kidpagronprimsank05
      @kidpagronprimsank05 5 років тому +4

      True, After Val Louron stage, he just spent his precious energy for only mere seconds and it shows in Alps d'Huez stage and stage 17 where he was shown door even when the lead group riding tempo. Although EPO did play part in LeMond decline, it was not widespread. Some later dopers like Leblanc was riding clean during this Tour and finish ahead of LeMond.

    • @EMC2Scotia
      @EMC2Scotia 4 роки тому

      @@kidpagronprimsank05 Lemond has since revealed it was blood poisoning that was starting to effect him by this stage. The more he trained the worse he got. And EPO was widespread, particularly among the Italians and Spanish.

    • @chocolatetownforever7537
      @chocolatetownforever7537 4 роки тому +3

      @Najadorf Brilliant post. I always loved the Tour De France, but you seem to know a lot more about it than I do.
      Im also a HUGE Greg LeMond fan, whom IMO is the only truly great American cyclist in Tour history. I know there is speculation that Indurain was doping during his career, and I know that LeMond has vocally questioned why he was getting dusted by riders in 91 that he dominated previously, but even as a LeMond fan, you could see in 90 that Indurain was not only talented, but also capable of winning the overall in the Tour. I do not know if Miguel Indurain doped in 91 or any year, but I dont think its out of the realm of possibility that him winning this race was just the combination of being able to ride for himself, and LeMond starting to age a little bit.
      Some math and speculation would have to be done, but had Indurain rode for himself and not Delgado in 1990, could he have won that Tour? To my recollection he was riding every bit as good, if not better than LeMond from the middle of that race on, but team orders kept him from giving his all.
      Either way, unless Indurain was doping in 90 as well, his success in 91 was not the same as the suspicious Lance Armstrong coming out of nowhere story of 1999.

    • @mattieaflo
      @mattieaflo 4 роки тому

      @@chocolatetownforever7537 Chiapucci and Indurain were nobodies before 1990 all of a sudden they’re elite? Yeah right

    • @ciranorossi684
      @ciranorossi684 3 роки тому +2

      a nice analysis. I want to have my say. sorry for my not perfect english.
      lemond in tdf 91 for me was physically heavier than tdf 90. this is probably because he feared only breukink and the course of tdf 91 had very long time trials and less mountains than tdf 90.
      in tfd 90 lemond did not shine in the time trials. while in tdf 91 he went very fast both in alencon and in the final of macon.
      despite the tourmalet data show that lemond has risen with the same wattages as the previous year and also on alpe d'huez lemond has risen to 6w / kg, while indurain bugno and Chiappucci have had an incredible wattage improvement since 1990.
      the epo also improves the recovery obviously, the val louron stage was incredible, it was full throttle from the first km, already on the aubisque chiappucci and bugno were on the attack after 85km of a stage with 5 mountains and 230km. lemond was very intelligent and on the tourmalet I try to bluff, like in poker when you bid full of aces but you have little in your hand in reality, until that moment at tdf lemond was dominating, and that attack on the tourmalet could have been the lion's scream against hyenas. it was not like that, I would also be curious to know without that attack what would have happened. maybe that stage would go in greg yellow. instead he did an incredible overshoot and a whole tourmalet climb out of the threshold, he was white greg, only the immense class allowed him to climb.
      anyone who knows cycling knows that after 50 minutes of overcoming like this you have melted and do not go on anymore. at the end of the tourmalet he was with the best except indurain. he lost most of the more than 7 minutes in a non-impossible terrain.
      on val louron it was already over 5 minutes. lost on the aspin and in the following valley. another thing I'd be curious is if greg climbed the tourmalet with the first leaders without detaching the last 400 meters, greg was an incredible downhill skier, and he wouldn't have made indurain go away like that ...
      about leblanc and mottet who finished in front of greg on that tour it must be said that they took advantage of the 7 minutes of the breakaway in the jaca stage, the race ran I know, but that day they were let go otherwise greg would have finished fifth in the tdf 91. I don't think who would have won greg, the stage of morzine greg went completely adrift, hit in the legs that did not recover and in the head that he had completely given up.

  • @yyzsupra8338
    @yyzsupra8338 4 місяці тому +1

    Phil solo is simply awesome.

  • @DHTCF
    @DHTCF 4 роки тому +4

    Strange Tour. Great until Indurain took the jersey, boring thereafter.

  • @alechull4300
    @alechull4300 10 місяців тому

    He was using " intravenous injections of liquid food". That cracks me up

  • @dmacrasur3183
    @dmacrasur3183 3 роки тому +3

    Big Mig...yes big talent to be sure but also a caught doper...big doper. Tours were tailored to him a bit after that...long times trials n not as many punchy mtn top finishes. Is what it is.

  • @cgarby
    @cgarby 3 роки тому

    Paul Sherwen :(

  • @bradford_shaun_murray
    @bradford_shaun_murray 9 місяців тому

    1:00:52 L' Alpe D'Huez

  • @watsonroadster3707
    @watsonroadster3707 5 років тому +2

    Was this the year the UCI changed the rule to make time trial bikes have identical sized front and rear wheels, essentially outlawing funny bikes???...I say this because I'm an owner of a Shogun Kaze 600 EX that has a 24" front wheel...

    • @chrispictures
      @chrispictures 4 роки тому

      Talking of funny bikes I'm glad that saddle at 4:52 never caught on. WTF was that thing?

  • @geeknee551
    @geeknee551 4 роки тому +1

    love it!! lemond refuses the podium coca cola.

  • @Sills71
    @Sills71 5 років тому +7

    This the year that EPO took over....

    • @DHTCF
      @DHTCF 4 роки тому +1

      But Mottet and LeMond still able to finish in top 10. Hampsten too.

    • @sandrost4243
      @sandrost4243 3 роки тому +1

      Yep, the EPO years were crazy. My personal favorite is watching Riis, “Mr. 60”, in ‘96, flying up Ventoux in the big ring.

    • @Sills71
      @Sills71 3 роки тому +1

      @@DHTCF They had not learned how to use it to the maximum...

    • @scuffediceposeidon9178
      @scuffediceposeidon9178 2 роки тому

      I would get a cardiac attack riding up col de Portet-d'Aspet with that amount of speed like riss and Indurain. I also wondered, how is it possible to be that fit after 15 stages and only 1 day off? Thats physically insane

    • @TesterAnimal1
      @TesterAnimal1 Рік тому

      @@sandrost4243 Hautacam. It was a 48 specially installed for that shortened stage.

  • @julesvanels6116
    @julesvanels6116 3 роки тому

    Did Roche not win the Giro 2 times

    • @julesvanels6116
      @julesvanels6116 3 роки тому

      @Gralin James Pritchard he became world champion in 87 same year that he won the tour and the Giro. The than 87 was an Epic battle between Visentini an Roche. 86 Visentini won the tour. Visentini performed just 1 time in the tour in 86 the 11th place behind the winner of the Vuelta (was held in the spring) Alvaro Pino.

    • @julesvanels6116
      @julesvanels6116 3 роки тому

      I still do. For instance The Giro a week ago

    • @kidpagronprimsank05
      @kidpagronprimsank05 3 роки тому

      He won 1 Giro.

  • @JohnLee-vj9lh
    @JohnLee-vj9lh 2 роки тому +2

    When cycling was cycling

  • @EMC2Scotia
    @EMC2Scotia 5 років тому +9

    The first EPO TDF win. Strange script writing for the first TT, as the order of riders is all over the place!

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 5 років тому +6

      So Indurain was on epo in 1990 as well?

    • @milanreznicek7335
      @milanreznicek7335 3 роки тому

      You are able to win nothing but you will asses performances of chapions 😂 Indurain is the best rider all times and was never positive tested. I have never seen such a strong rider with absolutly best physical parameters (hart rate, VO2 MAX, power).

    • @EMC2Scotia
      @EMC2Scotia 3 роки тому +1

      @@milanreznicek7335 Of course he was strong, a big champion. Just to reach the start line of a Tour de France one must be immensely talented. But he doped, just like a large portion of the peloton, it doesn't take a rider (or a genius) to see that. Just like the best DS of this era Manolo Saiz never rode professionally but still knew what to do.

    • @kidpagronprimsank05
      @kidpagronprimsank05 3 роки тому

      @@EMC2Scotia then why his boss Delgado didn't get the same stuff?

    • @EMC2Scotia
      @EMC2Scotia 3 роки тому

      @@kidpagronprimsank05 Of course he would have!

  • @jppontes6876
    @jppontes6876 4 роки тому

    The recent Tour De France is a Tour de Farce no long Time Trials, 500k shorter its simply a columbian climbers tour

    • @kidpagronprimsank05
      @kidpagronprimsank05 3 роки тому

      Yes, actually others grand tour are doing the same too; More Km climbing than time trial. Plus, the distance now is such that 21 years old can not only just survive, but thrive on. Another 22 year won the TdF. Yes, there is something wrong with how grand tours organized their races. Young riders today in this race would abandoned after stage 13 no doubt. The race seems shifts toward speed too much IMO

    • @jonboyjon1976
      @jonboyjon1976 11 місяців тому

      Given how boring early nineties TdFs were, I'm quite glad they've cut the time trialling out.

  • @carlosfigueroa790
    @carlosfigueroa790 5 років тому

    I hate the camera man!! after Miguel Indurain gets yellow Shirt I want to to see more of him.

    • @malibustacy3606
      @malibustacy3606 2 роки тому +2

      He was autographing empty EPO syringes after the stage and throwing them out to the crowd from the podium.

    • @BryonCarter-we5eb
      @BryonCarter-we5eb 11 місяців тому

      My heart hurts.
      This was the end of Laurent Fingnon and Greg Lemond.
      Perhaps the last two cyclists with panache!

  • @Liofa73
    @Liofa73 3 роки тому +1

    Good stuff, that music though, so depressing and repetitive.

  • @vincekerrigan8300
    @vincekerrigan8300 6 місяців тому +1

    Who on earth chose that dreadful, deadly dull, accompanying music?