The nerf to the passive was the nail in the coffin. I understand the damage nerfs as it’s a defender it wasn’t meant to be doing that much damage anyway. However nerfing its bulk was unnecessary. I also think this game does a poor job at explaining a Pokémon’s role. The current roles are too vague, when you compare this to the classification in games like Honor of Kings for example, it’s very basic. Mr. Mime for example should be labelled “Crowd Control Support”. Whereas Lapras could be labelled “Initiator tank”. Hence why it was probably doing a lot of damage on release because that’s what it was designed to be. EDIT: Clarity
Lapras has been collecting dust since lots of old nerfs affected him so much. He needs a buff to it's stats, water pulse, bubble beam, perish song, ice beam, and it's unite move. (Which looks like sun ce) But not overboarding him much.
@@Maaarrrrk but Where's water pulse? Water pulse is one who defined the golden Lapras meta before it's nerfs. Water pulse Lapras needs some love while perish song needs some buffs a little but not overboarding just I said
I don't know. I know it's a tank but it just feels like it doesn't do much for me anymore ever since it's damage nerfs from long ago. Maybe it's probably because im not full investing items for damage, idk. I guess I just don't find it appealing as much now.
I miss old Lapras so much. The nerf it got before the last one was great, but then the final one it got killed it. Idc about damage its defenses need to buffed. Cris arent you the one who basically begged for Lapras nerfs to begin with?
Yeah because it did need nerfed that long ago? Lapras was literally broken in every possible and then they nerfed it way too much. He's allowed to complain when they went overboard on something as they usually do AND not want it to be as broken as it as back then. Multiple things can be true at once
I really don't think Lapras is good at all tbh I've tried to make it work many times post nerf and it's just not worth it You're building full damage to do some average damage of other Defenders without damage items, and you're not tanky enough to be a Defender that way. And even full Defender build feels weak
I got my golden badge on Lapras. I notice that people don't know how to use Lapras. The amount of times i say "they going bottom" only to be wrong and just unite them from the back in seconds across the stage is just delicious. They never see it coming
I’m one of those 19 Primarina fans… also there’s so many other moba characters Timi can rip off their kit for Primarina… literally Seraphine = Primarina
honestly i've been loving playing Lapras lately she's not broken and fills her role properly, her unite move allows an almost immediate flank on the ranged mons if you take an all rounder to do the job with you not to mention the little smile she makes while scoring is adorable
Lapras is probably my favorite defender but it’s such a shame they borderline gutted her defenses. I hardly see her anymore it’s like they’re endangered again 😢 Any buffs/changes anyone wants to suggest for Lapras? I honestly would love if they changed Ice Beam to where if Lapras is on top of the frozen zone she gains increased defenses instead of the unnoticeable movement speed buff
This video got my hopes up as I loved playing Lapras, but based off of all the comments I’ve seen… I’m still better off with Mamoswine. I really hope that they will FINALLY buff Lapras & Goodra soon, but I’m not holding my breath as it’s very clear that the Attackers & All-Rounders are the favorites of not just the players but also the devs.
I only play one defender, and that's always Lapras, otw i enjoy supporters/allrounder. But my Lapras wr is the highest 70% with 300+ games lol, even higher than my allrounders. It does deserves it defences back tho, that was just an unreasonable nerf on a defender. Cut the dmg, not the bulk
Playing Lapras in a stack with machamp carried my team through our scrims but in solo q it’s a wasted slot ngl. You’d be better off playing a defender that can reliably solo carry a lane like umbreon/tree/ho-oh or slowbro.
Lapras is hard to balance. Its basic abilities are less useful than other defenders so you have to impact off of your unite move. Instead I can make high impact plays with other defenders basic abilities with much lower cooldowns than a unite move. It seems to me Lapras was designed to be a top lane carry not a traditional tank. However with weaker damage it is underwhelming and with its old damage it’s overpowered.
I’ve honestly been playing more Lapras whenever my team needs a defender, it’s pretty fun and I get good results with it, I’m not really sure if it needs a lot of buffs or anything, maybe Perish Song could be a bit stronger since Water Pulse just outperforms it all the time but I honestly feel like it’s in a pretty good spot and it’s perfectly viable if you want to use it.
Lapras is actually pretty weird. It’s a strange combination of “I love this Pokemon and want it to do well” but I know that buffing it anymore than it is now will probably break it again (it fricking took a tiny ice beam damage nerf to lower its win rate :P). But hey, if urshifu is back (and it actually hasn’t been that bad) I wouldn’t mind seeing urshifu return
The nerf to the passive was the nail in the coffin.
I understand the damage nerfs as it’s a defender it wasn’t meant to be doing that much damage anyway. However nerfing its bulk was unnecessary.
I also think this game does a poor job at explaining a Pokémon’s role. The current roles are too vague, when you compare this to the classification in games like Honor of Kings for example, it’s very basic.
Mr. Mime for example should be labelled “Crowd Control Support”. Whereas Lapras could be labelled “Initiator tank”. Hence why it was probably doing a lot of damage on release because that’s what it was designed to be.
EDIT: Clarity
Exactly, I agree about the damage nerf but nerfing it's passive is a bit too much
Lapras has been collecting dust since lots of old nerfs affected him so much. He needs a buff to it's stats, water pulse, bubble beam, perish song, ice beam, and it's unite move. (Which looks like sun ce) But not overboarding him much.
Bruh you could give us peak lapras and it still wouldn’t get picked over tree
@@Agilepickleunite nerfing tree is the only solution
Just buff Bubble beam and ice beam shields and buff Perish song.
@@Maaarrrrk but Where's water pulse? Water pulse is one who defined the golden Lapras meta before it's nerfs. Water pulse Lapras needs some love while perish song needs some buffs a little but not overboarding just I said
@@dimensionsazuma32 no. Otherwise you people are going to complain its op again like every other pokemon
Defending against the entire enemy team while your team does nothing is the universal Lapras experience
Do I enjoy playing defenders?
Not really
Am I forced to play defender 90% of games?
Yes
It’s not like u can’t win games with a bad comp…ppl suck and ray is OP. That said, keep going soldier
I don't know. I know it's a tank but it just feels like it doesn't do much for me anymore ever since it's damage nerfs from long ago. Maybe it's probably because im not full investing items for damage, idk. I guess I just don't find it appealing as much now.
I miss old Lapras so much. The nerf it got before the last one was great, but then the final one it got killed it. Idc about damage its defenses need to buffed. Cris arent you the one who basically begged for Lapras nerfs to begin with?
Right and now crying about it
@@TexasBestGamer he complainted about the damage, not the passive though
@@TexasBestGamer same
@@TexasBestGamer TiMi does not watch his videos💀💀💀
Yeah because it did need nerfed that long ago? Lapras was literally broken in every possible and then they nerfed it way too much. He's allowed to complain when they went overboard on something as they usually do AND not want it to be as broken as it as back then. Multiple things can be true at once
The reason that i don't play Lapras is because my teammates aren't there every time when there's a team fight, I can never trust them
I really don't think Lapras is good at all tbh I've tried to make it work many times post nerf and it's just not worth it
You're building full damage to do some average damage of other Defenders without damage items, and you're not tanky enough to be a Defender that way. And even full Defender build feels weak
I got my golden badge on Lapras.
I notice that people don't know how to use Lapras. The amount of times i say "they going bottom" only to be wrong and just unite them from the back in seconds across the stage is just delicious. They never see it coming
Can confirm, green badge lapras here(only playing lapras in duoq)
lapras was the nail in the coffin for the hopes of the 19 primarina fans who wanted it in the game
I’m one of those 19 Primarina fans… also there’s so many other moba characters Timi can rip off their kit for Primarina… literally Seraphine = Primarina
I love primarina. They could give it the ou setup with calm mind draining kiss or sparkling aria moonblast for damage
If Tapu Fini gets here first then they will be cooked
Lmao i said out loud “yo this gengar is a POS” not 10 seconds later chris said he didnt trust him
honestly i've been loving playing Lapras lately
she's not broken and fills her role properly, her unite move allows an almost immediate flank on the ranged mons if you take an all rounder to do the job with you
not to mention the little smile she makes while scoring is adorable
Lapras is probably my favorite defender but it’s such a shame they borderline gutted her defenses. I hardly see her anymore it’s like they’re endangered again 😢
Any buffs/changes anyone wants to suggest for Lapras? I honestly would love if they changed Ice Beam to where if Lapras is on top of the frozen zone she gains increased defenses instead of the unnoticeable movement speed buff
It needs its defenses back. It is too squishy for a defender.
I just hope Milotic has similar playstyle (she's never going to be in the game)
Don't worry man, I feel you (I want Sharpedo to be part of the game)
It really hard to pull a good lapras game with this meta maaann
It needs the stacks and support from the back. It lacks the speed to stack properly.
This video got my hopes up as I loved playing Lapras, but based off of all the comments I’ve seen… I’m still better off with Mamoswine. I really hope that they will FINALLY buff Lapras & Goodra soon, but I’m not holding my breath as it’s very clear that the Attackers & All-Rounders are the favorites of not just the players but also the devs.
Trevenant curse is just a better ar pick...
I only play one defender, and that's always Lapras, otw i enjoy supporters/allrounder. But my Lapras wr is the highest 70% with 300+ games lol, even higher than my allrounders. It does deserves it defences back tho, that was just an unreasonable nerf on a defender. Cut the dmg, not the bulk
Playing Lapras in a stack with machamp carried my team through our scrims but in solo q it’s a wasted slot ngl. You’d be better off playing a defender that can reliably solo carry a lane like umbreon/tree/ho-oh or slowbro.
Lapras is hard to balance. Its basic abilities are less useful than other defenders so you have to impact off of your unite move.
Instead I can make high impact plays with other defenders basic abilities with much lower cooldowns than a unite move.
It seems to me Lapras was designed to be a top lane carry not a traditional tank. However with weaker damage it is underwhelming and with its old damage it’s overpowered.
I’ve honestly been playing more Lapras whenever my team needs a defender, it’s pretty fun and I get good results with it, I’m not really sure if it needs a lot of buffs or anything, maybe Perish Song could be a bit stronger since Water Pulse just outperforms it all the time but I honestly feel like it’s in a pretty good spot and it’s perfectly viable if you want to use it.
Nah lapras is so bad after the nerfs, I hate playing that mon
Lapras is actually pretty weird. It’s a strange combination of “I love this Pokemon and want it to do well” but I know that buffing it anymore than it is now will probably break it again (it fricking took a tiny ice beam damage nerf to lower its win rate :P). But hey, if urshifu is back (and it actually hasn’t been that bad) I wouldn’t mind seeing urshifu return
Give it more healing on boosted
Yeah Lapras and Goodra are the main defenders I can’t run exp share on anymore. Seems like it hinders their full potential and makes them do less.
Which makes them both d tier defenders if I can’t slot an exp share into a defender for emergencies it’s not good
@@Agilepickleunite that’s what I’m saying
For some reason, I always lose with lapras, have a 30% wr on it, so I stopped playing it
Full damage Lapras is the way to go 👍🏻
I have 70% we on lapras this season in 40 matches
Why do you deny her getting buffs so much?
love lapras but she isn’t mamo or tree 😭 can’t even take some hits it’s ridiculous
Is Blastoise still good?
laparas the battlebus
Why is Gengar shining?
BUFF LAPRAS
I play Lapras once now is ok or mid i said
Hi Cris i love You ❤️
Bro cris shout me out Im better than my friend now becasue of you, and he got it since 2021 and is pro (abbas). ANYWAY U GO CRIS!
@@AbbasSa-t2o Your a suttle
@@AbbasSa-t2o suttle suttle
Bros malding in ur replys lol straight in denial, imagine having the game since 2021 and being cheeks
Hi Cris i love You ❤️