The CRAZIEST CONTROVERSY in Veterans Stadium HISTORY | 49ers @ Eagles (1971)
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Following a week 3 game in the 1971 NFL season between the San Francisco 49ers and the Philadelphia Eagles, many Eagles fans were enraged about the team's poor performance. However, some Eagles fans who had tickets to the game were upset that they couldn't watch it, because their seats were obstructed, since the geniuses that built Veterans Stadium forgot to take one critical thing into account. And chaos ensued, including the State of Pennsylvania getting involved
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But there was nothing like watching or listening to a Phillies game at the Vet with Harry Kalas broadcasting.
He just had one of those voices that somehow fit broadcasting a baseball game.
Diehard Mets fan here, and I have to agree
I can't wait to hear your next story about obstructed-view seats at the Vet! I knew the venue was trash, but it's even worse than I originally thought. Knowing that the Bucs closed it makes me feel good! Thank goodness Lincoln Financial Field exists.
The Vet would've been a good MLS stadium but not for anything else because the seats are so low. Pfft
If you sat in the back of the 300 level(under the upper deck), you saw fly balls go up and then down but the rest was blocked.
@@Rockhound6165no different than RFK.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworldRFK had the same problem, but if you sat in the 500s, you couldn't see the corner kicks. Hell, I sat in the club level at a DC United game and couldn't see one of the sides! And that side was the side that home plate was on for the Nats! Don't get me wrong, I love RFK, but something's definitely needed help.
when the jets played at shea stadium I had the same issue. the problem stems from the ground level seats are great for baseball.
OK, Vet vs. Linc challenge accepted - I much preferred my seats in Veteran Stadium to those in Lincoln Financial Field. My seats at the Vet were in the end zone corner in the 600 level and blocked by the wind coming in off Broad St. which helped a lot in cold weather (I took my jacket off in 2 January games). When I got my equivalent seats in the upper bowl of the Linc I needed to be a mountain goat to get up to those steeply raised sections and I was looking directly into the sun AND the wind. I gave them up.
Few things here. #1, just looking at the Vet, the stench of stale piss and beer is as fresh in my mind as are the memories of going there. #2, I went to a Stars game (USFL) in 1984 and sat in this part of the 200 level and most of the game all I saw were the backs of the Pittsburgh Maulers. #3, I've sat in every level of that stadium and IMO the best section for baseball or football was the 500 level which was the section of brown seats in the upper deck. Unless of course you're seated behind the foul pole. #4, $8 for a 200 level seat. Honestly Eagles tickets were relatively cheap. My first game in 1978 we sat in the 700 level(yellow seats) and they were $10. My dad had season tickets in the endzone 200 level from 1985-91 and they were $25 if I remember right. I had season tickets at the Linc from 2015-17 in section 219, 5 rows from the sun and they were $75(average). Probably more now.
Eagles fan here, you found one of many of us who love the Vet more than their current home. Yes the stadium was a dump but the atmosphere during Eagles games there was unmatched. I’ve been to the Linc for only 1 eagles game back in 05 and it just wasn’t the same feeling as the Vet. It’s great for all the soccer matches and concerts I been to though. Us Phillies fans love our new park since the Vet sucked for baseball but most of us longtime fans would gladly go back to the Eagles at the Vet days.
Didn't The Vet have a jail under the stands?
@@dallasbrubaker6054 yeah, it was after a Monday night game with the 49ers back in 1997
vet was the best linc sucks
@@djanthony9759 Vet was all real football fans. The Linc is 50% Eagles fans and the rest are people just going so they can post pics on social media that they are there.
@@cuginoeddie8677 so true
I use to go the Vet for Phillies games. 700 level was the best seats in that stadium
I worked for Ticket Master about 30 years ago. We sold tickets to San Antonio Spurs games. Their home arena had a multitude of obstructed view seats. There was a chart showing what was obstructed and how much of the court could be seen.
lifelong eagles fan, born in 99, family has had season tickets for 3 generations. didn’t go to my first game until 2006 so i never got to see the Vet, im glad i didn’t
You win the “Make me feel old Award” for today.
No the Vet had a disgusting charm that any Philly fan could appreciate. It was an interesting home field advantage that also wrecked your players careers. Nobody wanted to play the Eagles there. (Or the Phillies)
@@rubberneckinc.8937 No centerfielder wanted to play here because of the slicked area from all of Lenny Dystras tobacco spit
In the city of brotherly love, Veterans Stadium was unloved.
I made a point to wake up early to watch it imploded, not out of love but because I wanted to see its destruction once and for all. I only went because my teams played there and as a kid it seemed impressive due to tis size. Everyone knew that sitting right down low for football sucked.
You couldn't be any more wrong if you tried.
The Los Angeles coliseum had the same problem. The first 12 rows were obstructed views. This was before the renovations .
Not even The Garbage-Picking, Field Goal-Kicking, Philadelphia Phenomenon movie in 1998 could repair the damage the Vet created!
(It's a Philly joke, folks, and those who take comments like this way too seriously...)
LOL I remember that movie
@@dallasbrubaker6054 --With Tony Danza. I saw it. 😀
"cookie cutter" stadiums are looked back on as being bad, but i saw a ton of games in busch memorial stadium, and it was awesome....great atmosphere and memories.
I've taken two out of state trips to Atlanta to see my Braves play at Fulton County during the Dale Murphy years when they were just terrible. Time of my life.
@@kevinramsey417 saw murphy smash a home run in busch stadium in 1980....line shot that left the stadium in about two seconds
Which Busch Stadium the new one or the old one? 😅
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld I think he meant the SECOND one (the trash one) on the 3rd Busch installment
Busch was probably the exception to the rule. No one really had any complaints about that one, and it had some character to it
I have a few obstructed view stories from Rays games at the Trop.
1. My fam got free upper level tickets to a game against Baltimore. We walk up to other upper level and we get offered a free upgrade by a Rays staff member. Lower level behind the Orioles bullpen, row AA. We took the upgrade. We'll when they said "behind the O's bullpen," they meant it. Directly behind it. Nothing separating us and the players but a short wall, same level. These guys are tall. 12 year old me couldn't see anything.
2. My dad and I got obstructed view seats in the upper bowl for dirt cheap. It was not obstructed. It was just a railing in front of us instead of seats. Saved so much money and didn't have any problems.
1971 season for SF? More like 1970 with the last game at Kezar card as in '71 they moved to the "Stick".
The Philadelphia Eagles played at Kezar Stadium in the final game of the 1969 season on Sunday, December 14th, 1969. San Francisco 49ers played on Sunday, October 3rd, 1971. The Philadelphia Eagles dismissed the head coach after the loss to San Francisco after three games.
@@frankdenardo8684That last game was December 21 1969
“The vet would have been better if it spiked the ball on every play”
Since the Vet was owned by the city, I enjoyed easily affordable tickets to Phillies and the Eagles.
The new stadiums may be "nicer" and they are, their ticket prices are outrageously expensive today.
Neither the Eagles or the Phillies had anything top do with the construction of the stadium it was a municipal project. This is a testament of government inefficiency and union graft.
And on the eighth day, God squatted over Philadelphia and out came the Vet.
LOL..... That's hilarious
I always thought the Vet was designed more for baseball as far as how low the seats were.
So I was at the Vet the next week to watch my favorite team play, the Vikings. I was an excited 10 year old! Sat in the 600 level in the end zone. Rainy miserable day. Dave Osborn scored the only touchdown and I couldn’t see it from the end zone in the 600 level! Philly changed coaches and played better starting the next week against Minnesota.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about the seating situation at Riverfront Stadium in Cincinnati when that “Concrete Jungle” opened in 1970.
On a related note, hope your cruise isn’t experiencing any rainy days and Mondays.
It was the first 5 rows between the 30 and 30 yard lines. The seats were put in that way because they were the best seats for the Phillies.
I own a '69 Mustang Mach 1 exactly like the one shown at 9:10. I was like WTF?! It's Pastel Gray like that one. It looks almost white but it isn't. To the untrained eye it needs to be next to something white to see the difference. It wasn't a very common color and it was only offered for two years I believe '69,'70.
What are you ranting about????
@@Miklos82 It's in English.
@@Miklos82 Something no one else cares about as usual.
The two benefits of these stadiums were 1. MONEY
2. Every seat is aimed at the center (asides from KingDome, SuperDome, The Vet and Qualcomm). This is a double edged sword though because you end up getting a tree view of the opposite end zone if your on a side
You do great work man.
It was a bad place to watch both football and baseball
7:07 Speaking from experience, nosebleeds are harder to stop than you might expect. :). l had them as a feature of my childhood.
I prefer the vet as there was no security. Even post 9/11 we’d be able to sneak in to the vet, go to the employee cafe and take free food. Good times
I'm curious if at the 7:16 mark of the clip if the official (#48) coming in from the left side of the screen is erroneously signaling for a touchdown thinking the 5 yard line was the end line? My first memories of watching NFL football started in 1974, and as long as I've watched it, the officials have always been terrible, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was confused.
Only team to be 0-2? Seriously? No matchup of 0-1 NFC teams occurred that season? That seems more like a situational glitch than a propensity of suckitude. Not saying that propensity wasn't a factor, but very rarely is there only one 0-2 team in an entire conference many years.
It's true though. Technically the Eagles weren't the only winless NFC team since the Rams were 0-1-1. The AFC had three 0-2 teams and an 0-1-1 team (Broncos). And no, the Broncos and Rams did not tie each other.
Could be worse, could be watching from the actual jail
How is this any difference then the on field suites like at MetLife, Atlanta, LA amongst others?
If the stadium were vandalized, it would be an improvement. I saw one player break his leg in 3 places just running on the field.
How many cards in the upper right corner are there? Enough for a full deck.
What? The game was just ugly? Not ugly with a capital U?
The Eagles from that era didn't deserve that JG9 catchphrase. But Ed Khyhat and Mike McCormack did do enough stupid things to deserve another one of JG9's catchphrases, "I'M SORRY, WHAT???"
This Is Why The Eagles Raised A Superbowl Banner In Lincoln Financial Field The Eagles Were Never Going To Raises A Superbowl Banner In Veterans Stadium
I've been an Eagles fan since the 70s, but never saw an Eagles game at the Vet. Plenty of Phillies games, though. I had tickets to a playoff game in 1993 and it was in the top row of the 700 level. And I couldn't left field because I was right next to the Phanavision screen
All they could see was the backs of the players... "It's like you're really there!" 🤣
The outside of Veterans Stadium doesn't look to bad. It reminds me of Metlife. Too bad it was old and rusty. Would've been a good College football stadium. It had so much untapped potential..
Army-Navy game was usually played there.
FYI to this day the '71 Eagles hold the franchise record for worst point differential through 5 games.
IIRC the Redskins did something similar for expensive seats at FedEx Field. Because the only thing worse than giving Dan Snyder money to see his terrible team at his terrible venue is giving him a lot of money to NOT see the team at the terrible venue.
I sat in those seats in 82? Before we moved higher up. Eventually they closed them off.
They were really baseball seats that they refused to not sell for football.
There's plenty of college football stadiums like this, I know the first few rows of the east stands at South Carolina's Williams-Brice Stadium are obstructed by the visiting team sideline. And my dad said his seats when he was in graduate school at Ohio State were also obstructed by the sideline to the point that he gave up his tickets for the Ohio State-Michigan game because of it.
The only Birds game I ever saw at the Vet, in 2000, was in one of those god awful obstructed seats. Like the state senator, I went in thinking I was going to have an amazing view based on the seat being so close to the field. The only part of the game I witnessed was from the entryway to one of the sections in the 700 level.
I dunno, if my favorite team was as historically bad as the Eagles were then, I probably wouldn't have minded watching the games from obstructed "blind" -- just to save me from the trouble of covering my eyes myself
This stadium seems worse than FedEx Field ☠️☠️☠️
The architectural design company was Howard, Fine, & Howard.
Funny. Fine was actually born and raised in Philadelphia.
@@raymondhopwood9393 perfect
I went to a Eagles/Rams game in the 80's and it was said to be a sell out. I still went to the ticket window for 2 seats. The lady in the booth said she had 50 yard line obstructed view seats left. I ask obstructed view by what? The players she stated. It was trust me. LOL
Veterans Stadium: America's Largest Toilet Bowl
No, actually RFK Stadium looked like a toilet, especially in baseball configuration.
It was actually quite a nice stadium, however... I was at a Temple football game there in 1977, having tickets about a dozen rows up from the field. You did have to look between the standing sideline players to see anything! Those seats were great for Phillies baseball, but terrible for football.
$60 today for a ticket is about half of face value. It was still suck if you couldn't see, but that's a cheap ticket
I got to see the last NFL game ever in Memphis (Titans-Steelers) in '97 for less than $30. Yes, it was in the nosebleed section, but there were so few people there my friend and I just walked down several rows and sat somewhere else. Nobody said anything about it.
The Vet was the stadium equivalent of a Dumb Decisions video: it didn’t look bad in hindsight; it was terrible from the start.
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Veterans Stadium and that miserable concrete carpet of a field.... fits Philly's identity very well ☕🗿
In addition to football & baseball, the Vet was also home of the Philly Atoms/Fury of the NASL & boy the venue was so bad for soccer that the league demanded that the turf be replaced before the Fury played a playoff match vs Houston in 1979 because players & referees were complaining that they were slipping on the turf (even when wearing turf specfic soccer shoes) & twisting their ankles. One player even tore his ACL that season because of the poor condition of the turf. In fact because of how bad the Vet was, the Fury left Philly after the 1980 season for Montreal (becoming the Manic) and another awful venue in Olympic Stadium.
Ah yes, Veterans Stadium. There are many legends that speak of its awfulness.
The designers should have just spiked the ball into the ground...
Ah, the field surface would’ve been better if everyone spent the pre-game morning spiking balls into the ground, yes?
Whole sections in RFK Stadium in Washington DC had the same issue, but the games were still Sold Out in the `80's and `90's becuse the Redskins were an Excellent then and fans not only came to see the games, but also for the Game Day Experience!
3:39 why does this actually look like RFK not Veterans?
JFK across the street was even better.🤣
Actually, the Spectrum was right between JFK and the Vet.
How was the view of the cheerleaders? Asking for educational purposes obviously. 😂
concrete jungle. all part of the dual team cookie cutter stadiums of the era. vet, riverfront, three rivers, sd, busch, kingdome with a roof on it. wendell davis blew out both knees on the crappy turf of the vet.
Billy Sims did the same thing at the Metrodome
@@dallasbrubaker6054 was that the karate kick leap move he did? the turf very unforgiving.
Cue Falcons fans cringing at 2:53.
First time I ever saw my favorite baseball team on the road it was at the vet same with the first time I saw my favorite football team on the road . Not a great stadium but it seemed better as football venue when I went
Loved the VET all you haters are from out of town Probably Cowboy or Mets fans
Was it only bad for football, or was it bad for baseball (and possibly other events) too?
No, those seats that were close to the field were great for baseball; you were close to the action. Baseball has dugouts for the players; football has player benches, right on the field.
Clicking the card on the right corner is an unnecessary distraction
Those would have been great seats for baseball though.
Not really. CBP is more intimate. Then there were the seats in the 300, 500, and 600 level that were right behind the foul pole. Of you sat in the 700 level dead center, you'd see the batter hit the ball and a few seconds later you heard the sound.
And the people would forever wonder how this comment was ever upvoted
Was this stadium good (or at least better) for baseball?
You're joking right?
No, as a matter of fact, Phillies players are dying of glioblastoma, a form of brain cancer, at three times the rate (6 of 537). Not sure if the sample is significant or not. Also don’t know if Eagles players are at any greater risk. But there is an effor about to connect it to the plastics that the turf was made out of.
@@MrTim2031 Yeah kind of a low sample size. Could be other factors too common to those players or not. Maybe look at another stadium with that same turf if there was one. I could imagine in place like that or Riverfront Stadium in Cincinnati where it gets hot maybe fumes cooking up off that stuff get into your body.
@@MrTim2031 that form of cancer has a quick and high death rate. Sad.
That "turf" was painful to even look at. That, Riverfront, Three Rivers, Busch all looked the same.
@@bbigjohnson069 I'm talking about for the fans watching the game
greatest stadium, the linc is horrible and to quiet and ugly desing nothing like the vet
Even architects in Philly aren't bright. Must be something in the water.🤣
Back when the only team not afraid of the vet were the redskins
Until that Monday night game in 1990 ⚰️⚰️⚰️
@@arizonawrestlinginterviews1040 very true
The Vet was a dump and I wish they had demolished it with all of the Eagles fans in it.
wouldn't have mattered....roaches always come back.
Yeah, because Tampa Stadium was completely state-of-the-art 🙄
@@randallfloyd4476 At the Vet it's rats. Fortunately there were a ton of stray cats that patrol the grounds that kept the rats from completely taking over.
I though that you might bring up Eggals fans booing santa claz at the vet.
The seats at field level are really good for baseball.
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