You guys are doing an awesome thing here with the series. Keep it up! I've sat here for two hours watching and learning as I go, and I've been in the military, have had what I would consider "good" training in rifle, shotgun and pistol handling, but the multiple facets you guys cover certainly should help save lives!! Keep on Keeping on!!
great video when I got my 1st gun given to me when my grandfather passed (Beretta bobcat) I went to go buy 22 ammo, not knowing there was a plethora of different kinds, I got 22 shorts for the cheap price and of course they didnt cycle good thing it wasnt dangerous...that damn tip up barrel made it hard for me to know it was wrong as I only tried shooting them one at a time at 1st and everything was ok
Very very very need to know stuff right there. This has to be one of the most safety orientated videos I have ever watched on UA-cam. I have owned firearms all my adult life and I learned a few things I otherwise wouldn't have ever known. Hats off guys, you 2 rock !
I've watched Grip 1-9 so far. I have to say, you guys do a good job on these videos. I can see you took time to prepare what you were going to show/do. Just wanted to say "Thanks".
@americanbandwidth It's used to push a cartridge forward if the chamber is too dirty for the bolt to go forward on it's own power. This also happens if you slide the bolt forward instead of releasing the charging handle. If you ease the bolt closed instead of turning loose of the charging handle, it doesn't go all the way into battery. You can do this for stealth, so bad guys won't hear the rifle being chambered.
In Iraq, one of the M16 magazines that I was issued had a 7.62X39mm round in it. Showed it to my security officer, and he couldn't believe it. Don't know how it got in a 5.56mm magazine, but I checked all of my other mags to be on the safe side. Not something you want to run into during a firefight. Gotta love it.
Literally had this happen between my makarovs last year. 380 and makarov rounds to the eye look so close. Found a makarov round mixed in with some 380s and loaded a magazine up without noticing. When the slide slams home a makarov round in a 380 chambered makarov it is not fun to retrieve a live round stuck in the barrel. Had to remove the slide with a round stuck in the chamber place gun in a vice and grab the back side of the case with pliers twisting and pulling to get it to free up and pop out.
@CaliforniaCarpenter7 we have someting very similar in rhode island for a "blue card" test before you can buy a handgun, one of the questions was like If you want to check if a weapon is loaded do you a) point the barrel at your friend and pull the trigger b) point it at your eye and pul the trigger c) point it at a house and pull the trigger d) physically and visually inspect the chamber
@tleflore87 If the shotgun is in good shape and designed to be fired with modern ammo, you can fire any shell shorter than it's chamber. It might not function reliably in a repeater, but you can fire it. Some automatics need gas settings adjusted when you're going from a 3 1/2" to a 2-3/4". Some pumps can handle the 1.5" Aguila minishells with no problems, others jam.
@Gewehr7 The flashhole is the hole that's punched out in the primer hole so the fire from the primer can reach the main charge of powder and ignite it. If you don't have a flashhole, the main charge won't ignite. It won't harm the gun or you, but the bad guy or critter on the other end might take notice. :)
I have been shooting/reloading for 20+ years. I like the video- there is a lot of information there about different calibers. Gun safety is extremely important. This is a often overlooked subject. One reason I do not have but a few calibers, one of the few reasons I have not purchased a .380--all my glocks are 9mm. who knows, someone might accidently put wrong cartridge in mag (even me if was emergency or stress situation they are very close). Thanks for the video
Thank you for this presentation. It has helped me to understand chamberings and to be on the look out for factory ammo. I appreciate your honesty in helping the lesser informed (ie ME) in the gun community to become better informed, a better informed individual is a safer individual IMO.
You have to really like these guys with all their work and info that they put into their videos to educate folks like me that think we know a lot about firearms and after watching one of their videos say"well I will be darned,I didn't know that." Keep up the goof work Erik and Barry!!
@kosmocookieduster That's a reloading thing. Every rifle's bore is different, some are tighter than others, that's why they sell 3 or 4 different sized projectiles in the same caliber. If you load a slightly smaller bullet, you'll lose power and accuracy because the rifling can't engage the bullet properly and the gases blow past it. If you load too large a bullet, the chamber pressure will increase. That's why reloaders start with the minimum loads and work up.
Not really a close fitting/mistaken round, but a friend shot a 9mm round through his .40 XD a couple weeks ago. He accidentally loaded the round into his magazine while he was talking to us. We thought it was a squib or light load, The pressure came out of the ejection port, the casing was ballooned out, the round fired, the barrel appeared to be undamaged, he was fine, thankfully. Thanks for the vid guys, this series rocks!
This is a great video for anyone just getting into firearms. With the myriad of calibers available on shelves, you always have to look at your firearm for a caliber designation. Another good public service from you guys, keep it up!
I've seen professionally made videos that were not as well made as this. This was informative, very well done, and included a lot of anecdotal stuff that was really interesting.
It's a small hole that allows the spark from the ignited primer to ignite the powder in the cartridge. No flash hole means that the powder would not ignite.
another is 380 auto and 380 acp my dad has a 380 auto and he accidently bought 380acp well the rims of the cases are differnt and caused a lot of trouble such as fail to eject fail to feed and such since the extractor could grab the casing
Excellent video, I have been shooting for 30 years i have 5 different handguns 2 rifles I dam sure paid attention to the ammo for reasons you just explained. So i would really like thank you for promoting this safety video, your knowledge of the guns and ammo will save someones life from a bad mistake. I almost made an o shit with a revolver in the way i grip it? another shooter seen i was about to grip with my thumb next to the gap, because i was shooting different handguns that day i forgot
The closest I've seen to mixed up factory ammo was a box of federal 150 grain 300 savage. They had sized the brass too short from the factory, and I was getting nearly 1/16" primer protrusion from fired rounds. Since it was the first time I shot a used gun I had just bought, I thought it had headspace issues.... Tried some hornady and Remington factory ammo, and there was no problem
there are also some rifle rounds like the 270 win that is uses a crimped down 30-06 Springfield cartridge. there are to many types of ammo to know them all so every one be safe on the range
yes but on some firearms you cant know. Old ones that is. Heck my great grandfather carried an old HR American Double Action revolver. The only thing that kept me from shooting 38 Special from it because it was marked as cal. 38 was that the round was too long. As it turns out its a /38 Smith and Wesson which is somewhat shorter.
I think it is the latter you mentioned as there is no primer to fire the round (if I looked correctly). Therefore, it won't fire in the heat of the moment. On a revolver, the next round could at least cycle in the cylinder, but on a pistol, it won't eject because the round did not fire and caused the round to eject and the next to cycle. I'm sure you know that but the explanation is for those who may read our comments but not understand the basic concept.
Interesting mix up I saw. Only happened once, because it wouldn't eject the casing, but I saw someone put a 9x19 through a 40S&W XDM. And surprisingly it was pretty accurate.
HOLY CRAP!! Fascinating story about the 45 colt vs 44 mag! For me--unlike most people I've ever met--the ONLY ammo I use for carry/possible use against bad guys is stuff I've PERSONALLY RELOADED (and I have my methods to verify I haven't made a reloading mistake of any kind--only possible failure with my ammo: a genuine bad primer from the factory--likelihood: less than 1 in a million). In the end, there's nobody I trust more than myself...
@Cigarsoapbox It's designed and proofed for those rounds. I'm sure the manuals for the other models that can't fire .454 Casull have warnings about using the incorrect ammo.
The story about buying a box of 45 colt and and getting a box of 44 mag made me think of an incident I had a year ago. I bought a box of Winchester 9mm luger for range practice. I then had a hell of a time loading the rounds into the magazine, I could only get 3 or 4 in and the magazine wouldn't accept anymore, well I start looking at the rounds and someone at the factory had placed 4 or 5 rounds of 9x23 Winchester into an otherwise normal box of 9x19. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have chambered had it fit in the magazine, but it still threw me for a loop.
If you were talking a 38 vs 357 or 45 colt vs 454 you would be correct but because the 22's are heeled bullets the chamber and barrel are the same diameter. There are some match grade and target barrels that have tighter tolerances in the barrel and are highly polished in the chamber but that's the exception not the rule.
@NatePlaysMM Shooting 5.56 in a .223 causes overpressure, and will prematurely wear out the rifle and weaken you're barrel, bolt, firing pin, and chamber...it can also, in rare causes, cause chamber ruptures and turn you're gun into a grenade.
.30-30 Winchester happily chambers in a .303 British Enfield. Made that mistake once. The case bulged all the way to the mouth but amazingly didn't split.
Other things that come to mind: .38/55 vs. .375 Winchester. If I read correctly, a modern rifle cut for .38/55 and proofed to modern pressures would chamber and fire .375 Win with no problems at all, but the newer cartridge will blow up blackpowder-era guns chambered for the .38/55.
I have 6mm rem. I have nearly 4 thousand rounds that say 8mm. I bought the gun from a dear friend of mine who is a private gunmaker and he necked the brass down. Most crack and I never reload them but it is a super accurate load. They are also very slow, but like my friend says not slow enough for the groundhog to hear it coming lol. Also I would love to show you this handmade gun ww2 FN mauser 6mm Shaw barrel fully adjustable Sako trigger. Fajen aristocrat stock and here is the kicker a Vietnam era 20× J.Unertil scope Harris bipod. Its a very pretty gun and it gives me a great memory of my late friend
Backing up your "if you don't know who loaded it, don't shoot it": last time out loaded up a magazine of some old hand-loads Dad had left over. They were probably nearly as old as I am and he didn't load them. I got three rounds down range and the brass from #3 jammed up my Sig and it was done shooting for the day. Luckily that's all it did and a brass rod and hammer un-jammed it, but it could have been real ugly.
No flash hole. I am so glad you put that in this vid. I have seen that. In a box of premium self defense rounds. People would call BS on me when I tell them about the incident. But that is why I do NOT carry ammo that was not loaded by ME. I want to KNOW it has a flash hole!
@bowhunter945 Only if the firearm is specifically designed to shoot 410 AND 45 Colt, and only if the firearm is marked 410/45 Colt. DO NOT attempt to fire 45 Colt through a regular 410 shotgun. The cartridge will chamber, but the gun could blow up. A normal 410 shotgun has a forcing cone for the shot to travel through. After the forcing cone, the barrel diameter is .410". Then the barrel has a choke, which will be .387 inches in diameter. A 45 Colt bullet measures .454 inches.
I had the unfortunate situation where the shelves I had holding ammunition caved in and fell over. Was a real wonderful time gathering all the ammo, and carefully picking through all that shit. Many would be surprised how easy a .40 and 10mm can look. Or even a 10mm and 45 at quick glance. After a long time sifting through that shit, even 9mm hollowpoints started looking a bit like 40's. I lucked out since I only have 357's not 38's.
Nice video. Education is the key to gun safety. If someone knows better and still does something stupid then they deserve what happens. Please continue educating
@wittzo Of course I DO NOT recommend shooting a .45 Colt in a .410 shotgun unless the shotgun says it can shoot .45 Colt, like the Taurus Circuit Judge. Like this video and their others show, just because it fits, doesn't mean it can handle it.
a few months ago my uncle almost blew up his winchester sx3 the day before we were out duck hunting and he grabbed shells out of a glove box in his utv not paying attention. he didnt shoot it that day but the next day loaded it up again and could get the blot to close all the way. there was a 16 gague shell lodged about 2 1/2" down the barrel. good thing it didnt close all the way or it would of stayed in there and we wouldnt have known any different until it blew up
Actually, it would. The problem is that 9mm Mak is approx 4mm shorter over-all than 9mm Luger (or Parabellum; they are the same thing), and would go too far into the chamber -- causing the extractor to not properly engage (if at all).
Probably not, unless the cylinder is modified so the moon clip does not interfere with the closing of the cylinder -- or change the head spacing of the cartridge.
Yes, all rounds have a shelf life. You can prolong the self life of ammo by storing it properly. You want to keep it in a COOL DRY place. My recommendation is in a basement in a good ammo can off of the ground. Store it with dehumidifiers. Stored properly brass ammo will live longer than you. Steel and plastic (shotgun) ammo would probably last 50 or so. Always inspect the ammo before you shoot it. Also, don't EVER STORE IN OIL. Oil is bad for primers. This is not based of any research.
I went out & bought a Brazilian ERA break open 12 gauge sawed off for $60 after that 410 episode. Actually lookin to use Canterberry's guys inserts in it, hoping they do a rifled Casull insert. Those will probably be tough way over spec, because they have to be so thick for 12s.
great vid and a great reminder to respect the guns we shoot as they can be dangerous if we don't learn the basics of how they work. here in the UK we tend not to have this problem too often as our licences must be used to purchase ammunition and they state what calibre we are authorised to purchase. will look out for the little shotgun's next adventure. i hope it's not her last :)
38 short Colt and 38 long Colt. You can fire 38 short Colt from a 357. 38 short Colt is a rimmed 9mm from the 1800 basically. Originally black powder of course.
@wittzo i thought they were the same but the cases looked a little different probably could of been the fact that its russian steel case and it was in a bryco model 48 which is very reliable to start with
Thanks for the info. I have gotten rounds with "no flash hole" from Remington on two seperate occasions. Good to know the danger as I have been tempted to see if they go bang. But since I hate being a statistic, I just tossed them into the dud can at the range.
@HeiniSauerkraut Just like .308 is loaded hotter than 7.62X51, 5.56 Nato is loaded hotter than .223. The walls of the cartridge are thicker which increases the chamber pressure. 5.56 Nato is rated at 78,000 psi, commercial .223 is rated at 50,000 psi by SAAMI, so every time you shoot 5.56 Nato in a .223 rifle, you're shooting a proof load.There's also differences in the leade, a bullet fired in the .223 chamber hits the rifling quicker. 5.56 fired that way increases pressure,too
We should all know this unless we want to die/injury. The most important thing here is the factory mix up being mentioned. This is why you should only get few calibers so you don't have to worry....like get a bunch of .45ACP pistols and 9 Luger so you can tell the difference and they're won't be mix up even if you want them to. Don't try to run all kinds of calibers and guns or you will have a headache. Like fishing, simplify.
Years ago, I rented a .50AE Desert Eagle at my local range. Never shot one before. I asked for a box of 25 shells for the gun, the fellow handed it over, and I took them into the range. When I loaded the magazine, all the rounds fit in it fine, and the pistol chambered the round, but didn't fire. Long story short, they had given me .44 Magnum ammo instead of the .50AE. Not being familiar with either caliber, I didn't catch it. Always check, especially with unfamiliar weapons or ammo.
@jwg101x Google SAAMI pressures for 5.56 vs .223 and you'll find tons of info on the subject. 5.56 fired in a .223 chamber generates up to 73,000 psi of pressure vs about 50,000 for .223, so every time you shoot 5.56 in a .223, you're shooting a proof load.
What is a flash hole? I found a bullet like that at the range and i thought the primer fell out or something. Is that little circle on the back of the bullet the primer? I always thought it was.
What is the flash hole? Is it for the primer to lit the powder? Why is it dangerous, is there that much energy in the primer? And how did you find a round with no flash hole? Wouldn't a primer have been inserted into the cavity? Thanks.
Not on this topic but related... I'm a .308win fan. I went to pick up some factory ammo in 168gr. This weight is a little more "boutique" than 150 or 180 and the price reflects it. I went to spot-check my boxes and recognized the bullets as core-loct -- not the polymer-tipped as expected. Even the head stamp wouldn't have confessed that some unscrupulous shooter had likely swapped out the contents of the box for a more affordable round. They wouldn't have hurt me or my rifles but still...
You guys forgot a potentially catastophic one: Putting a 20 ga shell in a 12 ga chanber. The shell will shoulder at the front of the chanber and not drop out of the barrel, so if a 12 ga shell is loaded on top of it, it will chamber and you won't know anything's wrong until you pull the trigger and blow up the gun. That's why 20 ga shells are yellow, to remind you not to put them in a 12 ga chanber.
Barry's legend will live on for all eternity. Great man.
Amen!
I agree 💯
The term for 30.06 in the military here in Norway is usually just 7.62. some times 7.62x63 or 7.62 long
You guys are doing an awesome thing here with the series. Keep it up! I've sat here for two hours watching and learning as I go, and I've been in the military, have had what I would consider "good" training in rifle, shotgun and pistol handling, but the multiple facets you guys cover certainly should help save lives!! Keep on Keeping on!!
great video when I got my 1st gun given to me when my grandfather passed (Beretta bobcat) I went to go buy 22 ammo, not knowing there was a plethora of different kinds, I got 22 shorts for the cheap price and of course they didnt cycle good thing it wasnt dangerous...that damn tip up barrel made it hard for me to know it was wrong as I only tried shooting them one at a time at 1st and everything was ok
I love this comment. Hope you're doing well.
Barry was so knowledgeable about guns! He must have been a certified instructor.
This is a criminally underrated and underappreciated video.
Every time I watch an old one of these I pour some whisky and have a drink for Barry.
I love how he points to stuff with the stick in this one.
is it just me or does berry look like Jamie Hyneman off mythbusters?
RIP, yes he did. A Jamir that took a different career path
@@HuxleyTheProf
Jamir is my weed dealers name.
He looks like if Jamie crossed over with Duck Dynasty
I think the hat makes it look like that in this video.
Yea, but way cooler 😎
Very very very need to know stuff right there. This has to be one of the most safety orientated videos I have ever watched on UA-cam. I have owned firearms all my adult life and I learned a few things I otherwise wouldn't have ever known. Hats off guys, you 2 rock !
I've watched Grip 1-9 so far. I have to say, you guys do a good job on these videos. I can see you took time to prepare what you were going to show/do. Just wanted to say "Thanks".
They are brilliant
I would love to see a remote fire of a 444 Marlin from a derringer.
what would happen? would the round fire?
@@jamesmeterissian7654 You could probably make a single-shot derringer in .444 Marlin, you just wouldn't want to hold it while it went off.
@@jamesmeterissian7654 Yeah and explode most likely.
I wanna see this happen
3:12 I would buy every box I could. .44 magnum is expensive.
.45 Colt ain't cheap either! 😀
@americanbandwidth It's used to push a cartridge forward if the chamber is too dirty for the bolt to go forward on it's own power. This also happens if you slide the bolt forward instead of releasing the charging handle. If you ease the bolt closed instead of turning loose of the charging handle, it doesn't go all the way into battery. You can do this for stealth, so bad guys won't hear the rifle being chambered.
In Iraq, one of the M16 magazines that I was issued had a 7.62X39mm round in it. Showed it to my security officer, and he couldn't believe it. Don't know how it got in a 5.56mm magazine, but I checked all of my other mags to be on the safe side. Not something you want to run into during a firefight. Gotta love it.
Literally had this happen between my makarovs last year. 380 and makarov rounds to the eye look so close. Found a makarov round mixed in with some 380s and loaded a magazine up without noticing. When the slide slams home a makarov round in a 380 chambered makarov it is not fun to retrieve a live round stuck in the barrel. Had to remove the slide with a round stuck in the chamber place gun in a vice and grab the back side of the case with pliers twisting and pulling to get it to free up and pop out.
@CaliforniaCarpenter7 we have someting very similar in rhode island for a "blue card" test before you can buy a handgun, one of the questions was like If you want to check if a weapon is loaded do you a) point the barrel at your friend and pull the trigger b) point it at your eye and pul the trigger c) point it at a house and pull the trigger d) physically and visually inspect the chamber
you should do a derringer mixup experiment, fire a 444 out of it see what happens, (with a pull string of coarse)
I would love to see a rifle round in a derringer. That is like a break action PDW
@tleflore87 If the shotgun is in good shape and designed to be fired with modern ammo, you can fire any shell shorter than it's chamber. It might not function reliably in a repeater, but you can fire it. Some automatics need gas settings adjusted when you're going from a 3 1/2" to a 2-3/4". Some pumps can handle the 1.5" Aguila minishells with no problems, others jam.
@Gewehr7 The flashhole is the hole that's punched out in the primer hole so the fire from the primer can reach the main charge of powder and ignite it. If you don't have a flashhole, the main charge won't ignite. It won't harm the gun or you, but the bad guy or critter on the other end might take notice. :)
y'all put in a lot of work on this video i appreciate it
I have been shooting/reloading for 20+ years. I like the video- there is a lot of information there about different calibers. Gun safety is extremely important. This is a often overlooked subject. One reason I do not have but a few calibers, one of the few reasons I have not purchased a .380--all my glocks are 9mm. who knows, someone might accidently put wrong cartridge in mag (even me if was emergency or stress situation they are very close).
Thanks for the video
Thank you for this presentation. It has helped me to understand chamberings and to be on the look out for factory ammo. I appreciate your honesty in helping the lesser informed (ie ME) in the gun community to become better informed, a better informed individual is a safer individual IMO.
You have to really like these guys with all their work and info that they put into their videos to educate folks like me that think we know a lot about firearms and after watching one of their videos say"well I will be darned,I didn't know that." Keep up the goof work Erik and Barry!!
@kosmocookieduster That's a reloading thing. Every rifle's bore is different, some are tighter than others, that's why they sell 3 or 4 different sized projectiles in the same caliber. If you load a slightly smaller bullet, you'll lose power and accuracy because the rifling can't engage the bullet properly and the gases blow past it. If you load too large a bullet, the chamber pressure will increase. That's why reloaders start with the minimum loads and work up.
Got some bad .223 at a gun show years ago. It screwed up a Ruger Mini 14. These 2 guys are right on!!!
Not really a close fitting/mistaken round, but a friend shot a 9mm round through his .40 XD a couple weeks ago. He accidentally loaded the round into his magazine while he was talking to us. We thought it was a squib or light load, The pressure came out of the ejection port, the casing was ballooned out, the round fired, the barrel appeared to be undamaged, he was fine, thankfully. Thanks for the vid guys, this series rocks!
This is a great video for anyone just getting into firearms. With the myriad of calibers available on shelves, you always have to look at your firearm for a caliber designation. Another good public service from you guys, keep it up!
I've seen professionally made videos that were not as well made as this. This was informative, very well done, and included a lot of anecdotal stuff that was really interesting.
Berry...still educating from the great beyond. Thank you my friend!
It's a small hole that allows the spark from the ignited primer to ignite the powder in the cartridge. No flash hole means that the powder would not ignite.
another is 380 auto and 380 acp my dad has a 380 auto and he accidently bought 380acp well the rims of the cases are differnt and caused a lot of trouble such as fail to eject fail to feed and such since the extractor could grab the casing
I was successful in firing a 9X19 through my .45acp 1911. It was a bit of a challenge getting the casing out, but it was accomplished.
Excellent video, I have been shooting for 30 years i have 5 different handguns 2 rifles I dam sure paid attention to the ammo for reasons you just explained. So i would really like thank you for promoting this safety video, your knowledge of the guns and ammo will save someones life from a bad mistake. I almost made an o shit with a revolver in the way i grip it? another shooter seen i was about to grip with my thumb next to the gap, because i was shooting different handguns that day i forgot
Probably your most important & informational gun gripes video. Safety first.
The closest I've seen to mixed up factory ammo was a box of federal 150 grain 300 savage. They had sized the brass too short from the factory, and I was getting nearly 1/16" primer protrusion from fired rounds. Since it was the first time I shot a used gun I had just bought, I thought it had headspace issues.... Tried some hornady and Remington factory ammo, and there was no problem
Excellent video. This is the only place I have ever found such good information.
Thanks
i have the 16 gauge version of that break action rifle.2 3/4 full choke. made in Brazil. Its a good bird / rabbit gun
there are also some rifle rounds like the 270 win that is uses a crimped down 30-06 Springfield cartridge.
there are to many types of ammo to know them all so every one be safe on the range
Great video for those still near the bottom/middle of the learning curve about guns and shooting (which is probably about 70% of shooters).
Berry your present yourself in a very professional manner, i appreciate you taking the time to explain to us how ammo works
Got to say this is my favorite channel...outstanding...
These are some of the greatest gun videos on youtube. Keep em up guys!
yes but on some firearms you cant know. Old ones that is. Heck my great grandfather carried an old HR American Double Action revolver. The only thing that kept me from shooting 38 Special from it because it was marked as cal. 38 was that the round was too long. As it turns out its a /38 Smith and Wesson which is somewhat shorter.
I think it is the latter you mentioned as there is no primer to fire the round (if I looked correctly). Therefore, it won't fire in the heat of the moment. On a revolver, the next round could at least cycle in the cylinder, but on a pistol, it won't eject because the round did not fire and caused the round to eject and the next to cycle. I'm sure you know that but the explanation is for those who may read our comments but not understand the basic concept.
Interesting mix up I saw. Only happened once, because it wouldn't eject the casing, but I saw someone put a 9x19 through a 40S&W XDM. And surprisingly it was pretty accurate.
HOLY CRAP!! Fascinating story about the 45 colt vs 44 mag!
For me--unlike most people I've ever met--the ONLY ammo I use for carry/possible use against bad guys is stuff I've PERSONALLY RELOADED (and I have my methods to verify I haven't made a reloading mistake of any kind--only possible failure with my ammo: a genuine bad primer from the factory--likelihood: less than 1 in a million). In the end, there's nobody I trust more than myself...
@Cigarsoapbox It's designed and proofed for those rounds. I'm sure the manuals for the other models that can't fire .454 Casull have warnings about using the incorrect ammo.
I love Barry waving around that stick! It was always hard to tell whether or not he was I barely funny or if he was trying to be! RIP
The story about buying a box of 45 colt and and getting a box of 44 mag made me think of an incident I had a year ago. I bought a box of Winchester 9mm luger for range practice. I then had a hell of a time loading the rounds into the magazine, I could only get 3 or 4 in and the magazine wouldn't accept anymore, well I start looking at the rounds and someone at the factory had placed 4 or 5 rounds of 9x23 Winchester into an otherwise normal box of 9x19. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have chambered had it fit in the magazine, but it still threw me for a loop.
If you were talking a 38 vs 357 or 45 colt vs 454 you would be correct but because the 22's are heeled bullets the chamber and barrel are the same diameter. There are some match grade and target barrels that have tighter tolerances in the barrel and are highly polished in the chamber but that's the exception not the rule.
I love the technical gripes. Even experienced shooters can get mixed up and this had good explaining.
@NatePlaysMM
Shooting 5.56 in a .223 causes overpressure, and will prematurely wear out the rifle and weaken you're barrel, bolt, firing pin, and chamber...it can also, in rare causes, cause chamber ruptures and turn you're gun into a grenade.
i love barry's old school southern accent, he enunciates exactly like jerry clower. thumbs up!
@MrJrcool1234 .308 is 7.62x51, 7.62x54r is used in the Mosin and some other Russian guns.
.30-30 Winchester happily chambers in a .303 British Enfield. Made that mistake once. The case bulged all the way to the mouth but amazingly didn't split.
God bless Barry!! You should do a tribute to Barry, shoot and show his favorite guns, talk about some of his favorite things to do etc.
the hole that connect the primer pocket to the powder charge. Without it there will be no bang when you pull the trigger.
Other things that come to mind: .38/55 vs. .375 Winchester. If I read correctly, a modern rifle cut for .38/55 and proofed to modern pressures would chamber and fire .375 Win with no problems at all, but the newer cartridge will blow up blackpowder-era guns chambered for the .38/55.
as soon as you showed that Remington 9mm round I checked every round in my edc pistol to make sure everything was squared away
I have to admit your 'Gun Gripe' videos are some of my favorite ones you make. Keep up the great work!
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I have 6mm rem. I have nearly 4 thousand rounds that say 8mm. I bought the gun from a dear friend of mine who is a private gunmaker and he necked the brass down. Most crack and I never reload them but it is a super accurate load. They are also very slow, but like my friend says not slow enough for the groundhog to hear it coming lol. Also I would love to show you this handmade gun ww2 FN mauser 6mm Shaw barrel fully adjustable Sako trigger. Fajen aristocrat stock and here is the kicker a Vietnam era 20× J.Unertil scope Harris bipod. Its a very pretty gun and it gives me a great memory of my late friend
Backing up your "if you don't know who loaded it, don't shoot it": last time out loaded up a magazine of some old hand-loads Dad had left over. They were probably nearly as old as I am and he didn't load them. I got three rounds down range and the brass from #3 jammed up my Sig and it was done shooting for the day. Luckily that's all it did and a brass rod and hammer un-jammed it, but it could have been real ugly.
Its a good thing there backing up to the white board. I wouldn't have been able to see the one in the camo jacket if he wasn't.
No flash hole. I am so glad you put that in this vid. I have seen that. In a box of premium self defense rounds. People would call BS on me when I tell them about the incident. But that is why I do NOT carry ammo that was not loaded by ME. I want to KNOW it has a flash hole!
@bowhunter945 Only if the firearm is specifically designed to shoot 410 AND 45 Colt, and only if the firearm is marked 410/45 Colt. DO NOT attempt to fire 45 Colt through a regular 410 shotgun. The cartridge will chamber, but the gun could blow up. A normal 410 shotgun has a forcing cone for the shot to travel through. After the forcing cone, the barrel diameter is .410". Then the barrel has a choke, which will be .387 inches in diameter. A 45 Colt bullet measures .454 inches.
I had the unfortunate situation where the shelves I had holding ammunition caved in and fell over. Was a real wonderful time gathering all the ammo, and carefully picking through all that shit. Many would be surprised how easy a .40 and 10mm can look. Or even a 10mm and 45 at quick glance. After a long time sifting through that shit, even 9mm hollowpoints started looking a bit like 40's. I lucked out since I only have 357's not 38's.
Nice video. Education is the key to gun safety. If someone knows better and still does something stupid then they deserve what happens. Please continue educating
@wittzo Of course I DO NOT recommend shooting a .45 Colt in a .410 shotgun unless the shotgun says it can shoot .45 Colt, like the Taurus Circuit Judge. Like this video and their others show, just because it fits, doesn't mean it can handle it.
a few months ago my uncle almost blew up his winchester sx3 the day before we were out duck hunting and he grabbed shells out of a glove box in his utv not paying attention. he didnt shoot it that day but the next day loaded it up again and could get the blot to close all the way. there was a 16 gague shell lodged about 2 1/2" down the barrel. good thing it didnt close all the way or it would of stayed in there and we wouldnt have known any different until it blew up
Actually, it would. The problem is that 9mm Mak is approx 4mm shorter over-all than 9mm Luger (or Parabellum; they are the same thing), and would go too far into the chamber -- causing the extractor to not properly engage (if at all).
Probably not, unless the cylinder is modified so the moon clip does not interfere with the closing of the cylinder -- or change the head spacing of the cartridge.
Yes, all rounds have a shelf life. You can prolong the self life of ammo by storing it properly. You want to keep it in a COOL DRY place. My recommendation is in a basement in a good ammo can off of the ground. Store it with dehumidifiers. Stored properly brass ammo will live longer than you. Steel and plastic (shotgun) ammo would probably last 50 or so. Always inspect the ammo before you shoot it. Also, don't EVER STORE IN OIL. Oil is bad for primers. This is not based of any research.
I went out & bought a Brazilian ERA break open 12 gauge sawed off for $60 after that 410 episode. Actually lookin to use Canterberry's guys inserts in it, hoping they do a rifled Casull insert. Those will probably be tough way over spec, because they have to be so thick for 12s.
great vid and a great reminder to respect the guns we shoot as they can be dangerous if we don't learn the basics of how they work. here in the UK we tend not to have this problem too often as our licences must be used to purchase ammunition and they state what calibre we are authorised to purchase. will look out for the little shotgun's next adventure. i hope it's not her last :)
38 short Colt and 38 long Colt. You can fire 38 short Colt from a 357. 38 short Colt is a rimmed 9mm from the 1800 basically. Originally black powder of course.
Once more into the fire for the .410.... When your walking thru hell, carry a .410. lol Great vid!
@wittzo i thought they were the same but the cases looked a little different probably could of been the fact that its russian steel case and it was in a bryco model 48 which is very reliable to start with
thank you this video helped to clerify alot of questions.
Thanks for the info. I have gotten rounds with "no flash hole" from Remington on two seperate occasions. Good to know the danger as I have been tempted to see if they go bang. But since I hate being a statistic, I just tossed them into the dud can at the range.
@HeiniSauerkraut Just like .308 is loaded hotter than 7.62X51, 5.56 Nato is loaded hotter than .223. The walls of the cartridge are thicker which increases the chamber pressure. 5.56 Nato is rated at 78,000 psi, commercial .223 is rated at 50,000 psi by SAAMI, so every time you shoot 5.56 Nato in a .223 rifle, you're shooting a proof load.There's also differences in the leade, a bullet fired in the .223 chamber hits the rifling quicker. 5.56 fired that way increases pressure,too
I learn something new each time I watch you guys. Thanks!
We should all know this unless we want to die/injury. The most important thing here is the factory mix up being mentioned. This is why you should only get few calibers so you don't have to worry....like get a bunch of .45ACP pistols and 9 Luger so you can tell the difference and they're won't be mix up even if you want them to. Don't try to run all kinds of calibers and guns or you will have a headache. Like fishing, simplify.
I bought a box of .270 at Wal-Mart once and it had 2 .308 rounds mixed in with the .270. Always check head stamps.
Garrat Carson the .308 has a case 12mm shorter than the .270 so fortunately should have been obvious without checking the headstamp.
One not mentioned is some brands of .38 super/super +p (auto.) will fit .38 special & .357 magnum chambers.
To Eric and Barry... I think you're doing a great gob with this series of videos.
Years ago, I rented a .50AE Desert Eagle at my local range. Never shot one before. I asked for a box of 25 shells for the gun, the fellow handed it over, and I took them into the range. When I loaded the magazine, all the rounds fit in it fine, and the pistol chambered the round, but didn't fire.
Long story short, they had given me .44 Magnum ammo instead of the .50AE. Not being familiar with either caliber, I didn't catch it. Always check, especially with unfamiliar weapons or ammo.
It's scary what high power rounds someone could accidentally slip into their gun. Great entertaining/informative video as always, guys.
Thanks again, you really promoting this sport keeping everyone thinking!
Thanks guys for making this - ammunition is probably the most murky area for a newbie.
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What happened to Barry? How did he die?
+jhughes2286 Heart attack about a year and a half ago.
Danny Danko So yeah you're litteraly stupid.
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@jwg101x Google SAAMI pressures for 5.56 vs .223 and you'll find tons of info on the subject. 5.56 fired in a .223 chamber generates up to 73,000 psi of pressure vs about 50,000 for .223, so every time you shoot 5.56 in a .223, you're shooting a proof load.
What is a flash hole? I found a bullet like that at the range and i thought the primer fell out or something. Is that little circle on the back of the bullet the primer? I always thought it was.
What is the flash hole? Is it for the primer to lit the powder? Why is it dangerous, is there that much energy in the primer? And how did you find a round with no flash hole? Wouldn't a primer have been inserted into the cavity? Thanks.
Not on this topic but related... I'm a .308win fan. I went to pick up some factory ammo in 168gr. This weight is a little more "boutique" than 150 or 180 and the price reflects it. I went to spot-check my boxes and recognized the bullets as core-loct -- not the polymer-tipped as expected. Even the head stamp wouldn't have confessed that some unscrupulous shooter had likely swapped out the contents of the box for a more affordable round. They wouldn't have hurt me or my rifles but still...
You guys forgot a potentially catastophic one: Putting a 20 ga shell in a 12 ga chanber. The shell will shoulder at the front of the chanber and not drop out of the barrel, so if a 12 ga shell is loaded on top of it, it will chamber and you won't know anything's wrong until you pull the trigger and blow up the gun. That's why 20 ga shells are yellow, to remind you not to put them in a 12 ga chanber.
Thanks for doing these videos guys, its really great!
Awesome video keep it up. Firing a 444 marlin in a derringer. That's one fast way to get a prosthetic fingers/hands.
@Faris2A No, 380 ACP is NOT the same as 9x18 Makarov. 380 ACP is 9x17.
You can shoot .45 long colt out of a .454 casul revolver as well. my dad does it sometimes
Also, if you don't have a choice, use the ammo you have that works. if you have a choice, get the right ammo.