Craps Strategy of the Year Tested on Roll to Win Table
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Craps Strategy of the Year Tested on Roll to Win
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This strategy is decent but to only be up 8% after 30 min of action isn't good time-to-gambling math, esp. with a BR of $500 and only playing the inside. My adjustments would be start the action at $50 on those insides and then regress to the half for the 'sisters'; also bump that hard 4 and 10 to a quarter each and throw 1-5 on the horn; also take a small odds bet on your pass, that's free money, esp if your playing for free at that point.
Love the content, I was intimidated by craps for years, using your channel I was able to learn the game and actually feel confident enough to play at a live table. Thanks fo the vids
Glad to hear it!
Same for me. I enjoy the real tables now.
Really like this strategy. Ran it against Standard/3 Pt Dolly in Dicer a bunch and it outperforms 3PD a vast majority of the time. Look forward to trying it live soon!
Keep the live game play coming. can't get enough of it. Great job!
Thanks! Will do!
@@ColorUpyes need more of these videos 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@ColorUp See the blue cog on the $500 chip, if you press that you can set it to any value. I set it to $6 for placing the six and eight because I am lazy.
I was unaware, thanks for the tip! To be honest though, typically I just make $5 place bets on 6/8 as it pays to penny and you don't need to make a proper $6 bet.
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@@ColorUp NO! As an old man craps player that just feels so wrong.
For 6 months I have been trying to make squeeze play work, but that goes invest invest regress. Split the sitters is invest regress regress. Still depends on 3 rolls but less exposed each time
I caught a hot shooter on my first attempt at squeeze play, so of course I am hooked on that strategy! Stick with it, I think its a good strat!
I love both systems, you are out of the hand quickly. They are easy for dealers to get use to after a few hands. I have done well with both.
Always love to see real casino action. Of course live action gives you a sense of being there, but recorded real play is just as good!
Thank you for the live roll content! After our last trip up to Blackhawk for our anniversary, I told my wife I'm done donating to slot machines, I want to at least feel like I had a chance to win. I've always been fascinated by Craps but intimidated to play because of all the different bets. Your channel has really added clarity and helped simplify the game for me. Huge thank you!
Slot machines the house edge can be 10-20% with craps you can keep it under 2-3%. And I just think it’s a more fun game ha
I'm the same way, just did my first ever casino trip and played craps thanks to this channel, was a great time! No RTW tables there though, so I was nervous around the others while trying to place my bets...
Like the live dice action even when recorded. Nice shooting! I use the same strategy when I play, been profitable over the years.
Mahalo Jeremy, This the first time i got see very clearly how a Roll To Win table operates. I like the split the sisters. RogerT
Absolutely love these roll to win videos Jeremy!!! Great display of the strategy. Makes me want to hop into the car and drive over to Reno!
Rumor is they are pulling out once lease over, and moving to the stadium craps style table.
@@ColorUp oh I like the stadium style one too. Both are good!
Went and used this strategy for my 2nd time playing and I hit for 23 in a row and hit the high numbers side bet on 3 different rolls !! Thanks for the tips!
Nice!
With Big Red looming, pressing the bet after the 8th roll seems risky. Putting them on lay 4/10 especially when getting into the tenth roll might be more beneficial.
Love love looooove the RTW content! Keep it coming! My nearest RTW table is $20 minimum, would kill for a $5
yeah, its been great...rumor is though its being replaced with a "stadium" style craps table. Real shooter at table, all bets on terminals...we will see. Hopefully its still $5 too!
@shanelee848 we’re is that rtw table
Good roll , much better than bouncing table , I’d like to see you interview some of the guys that practice at casino quest , what they think about random vs setting , and where they like to play. Just content idea , great job love your channel
Maybe one day!
Nice video! The Roll2Win is a great easy way to try out systems without heckling the dealer with up and down Bets. I like the stadium Craps for the same reason.
Interesting-- He rolled approximately 44 rolls & won $43 for an ROI of 8.6%- Every System works on occasion and that same system to fail on occasion. Any win is a win $. Better than a 8.6% lost. Good Luck at tables! 🧐☯
I went 13 rolls without establishing a point.... it was pretty hilarious... slammed the field 4 times in a row as well pressing my bet every time...
Craps would have to be the game in the casino with the largest number of possible ways to play it.
My personal record is 63 rolls. I have made many in the 30-40 range but just as many 1-3 rolls and 7 out!
Yep, the ups and downs of dice.
Like this strategy. I stay away from the hards as the poor odds eats your bankroll long term
Have to tell you, I dont mind these highly moving and complicated strategies for you videos .....but they Are Very Tough To Pull Off on a Live Craps table. I am a big Fan of HCS and Brian.
This one isn't that bad, ive had dealers handle it no problem
How are they hard on a live table?
Deposit another $20 or so as a different player and bet the don't pass to offset your required pass line bet to shoot. You could also bet $1.oo on the twelve to safe guard. $1.oo isn't too bad a price for shooting.
I’d need to bet any craps and cover 2/3/12. But yeah, I guess if terminal next to me was open, I could bet dont pass on it ha
When that music came in I knew this man was about to go on an absolute heater.
love the live play! so fun! I played one in vegas and really had a good time. The only drawback are those bumps..
I might try this with $50 bet to $25 mi table, this $5 table gonna take for ever to get some money, I'm thinking of doing this with the Iron cross tho
I wish we had the mechanical table still
Another great video. Hope to run into you when I'm down there in August. Either at the craps or poker table. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks! Will do!
Does the dealer have control of the bet timer? It seems like the timer was much faster than previous videos.
Yes, can set time or sometimes they turn it off completely , like for this video
Played craps for the 3rd time last night. Played for 3hrs on a $100 bankroll, cashed in for $270, and tipped the dealers probably around $60 in all. I was ahead all night, and also won a bet on a repeat aces. I used only very basic strategy, placing 6&8 often, placing single odds on outside numbers, double odds on 5/9, and triple odds on 6/8. Often took my winnings on earlier bets so I got my money back, and pressed after that and got on the other numbers or bet on the horn with extra dollars. And took my bets down after 12-14 rolls. I cared more about preserving my money than trying to go for big wins. I think my own rolls when I was a shooter was like 18, 2 (and I won, betting on the Don't Pass and don't come for myself!), and my last time with the dice I rolled around 25 times (the night's high score was already set at 31 or 32). For another shooter, I also had a fun don't pass/don't come bet on the 6 & 8, the worst numbers to be on, but both bets won.
After playing, one of the dealers said thanks, I was a great, fun player to deal for. That made me feel good.
Sounds like an awesome night!
I'm still learning a ton, and thanks to your channel i really am learning a lot! Question on this strategy, instead of playing the 4/10 hardways, what about playing the field instead?
If you’d like. Field covers more numbers but cost more and is a one roll bet, so money churns faster. Can be good or bad depending on how the dice roll.
You should start with a $30 to $50 Don't Pass bet and then add the Inside bets after the point is established.
That would work great as long as can avoid the most common number for the come out roll, and avoid the point once the don't is established....plenty of reasons not to do as you suggest, but it does work out some of the time.
@ColorUp Don't Pass has the lowest house edge on the table and hybrid style betting is a great way to earn tier credits, while still giving you the opportunity to make a lot of money on a long roll.
It might be good idea if tier credits is goal, but you are just gambling additional money. Again, first roll is most likely to lose, and still have to avoid it once point set. It may work or not, just depends how the dice roll. If you want to win more stick to one side or other and don’t hedge. The dont is .01% lower than pass, hardly significant.
I've seen 7,11 hit multiple times in a row on come out on bad stretch will take u out of the game in no time
@ColorUp Losing your Don't Pass bet on the comeout roll is just part of the cost of doing business. ( I have lost $1,400 on seven natural comeout winners in a row.) It's the same as betting on the Pass and not having the point rolled. I think of it as betting on a coin flip.
Playing hybrid isn't a hedge because your Place bets can win and your Don't Pass bet can win. You're just hoping for the Place bets to win a few times and then have the 7 roll before the point.
I have been playing this way for most of the time during the past two years and am up overall about $6K. I have only lost money three times. I became intrigued with this style after watching WagerMeThis videos. What do you think of Jacob?
I like that strategy a lot. Great roll too!
Glad to hear it!
What is the difference on place or buy box on the digital table
I was just there two weeks ago and didn’t even notice this machine lol.
The one at silver legacy is all busted up.
Silver legacy is also $$
I like those tables. They're starting to disappear from the casinos in Lake Charles. Only one table left at L' Auberge.
Rumor is this one will be replaced at end of lease with stadium craps
This is my favorite kind of video, more please.
have another recorded, should come out next week. Rumor is it is leaving my local casino though.
Maybe Im mistaken, but I thought the Vig on buy bets was supposed to be 5% of the bet and on those machines its paid on the win. So why is the payout 7.13 on a $5 bet on a 5 instead of 7.25? Appears it charged the vig on the win amount instead
Yes, it’s charged on win amount, where as a real table it is charged on bet amount. Not sure if it’s just programmed by someone who doesn’t know the game, or more likely they did it that way to squeeze a few more Pennies from player. Either way it’s still better than place bet payout.
You are correct. I wonder if it would correctly charge the vig on the win amount on a Lay bet? Or would it squeeze the extra out of you by charging the Lay vig on the bet amount. Something to try out next time.
Great video! I'm really liking this system. How would you bet with a $10 min table? Thank you!
I hope when I’m in Reno one day I get to meet you! Great content like always!
Maybe one day!
What’s the difference between buy and place on the numbers? Why not place on the 5/9
Is that table already beat to hell or just dirty? That’s my only worry with the roll to win tables is that they look amazing when they first come out but the wear and tear is pretty visible
It has like air bubbles or something underneath...it is rougher looking than when first installed for sure. I think getting maintaince and parts is one of main negatives of this machine. Rumor is this machine is being replaced with stadium craps table once the lease is up.
I have a question. Why buy the 5/9 at $10? Nevermind.. you answered my question at 9:50
Yep he said it at 9:50. Most people don't know that on Roll To Win table the vig is paid on the win for a buy, so always buy the 4, 5, 9, 10, still place the 6 and 8.
I am staying there Sept. 10 & 11th, maybe we will run into you. Looking forward to playing on that table because the wife does not like a live craps table, and I am sure this will be a lot less intimidating for her.
Hope you have a great time and good luck
Man that was some horendous luck with the 7s but still made it out with profit grats!!
Thanks for the vid! I like the slight twist on this method, where you split the 5 and 9 no matter what number hits as there's higher probability of 6 and/or 8 hitting vs 5 and 9.
Also, is dice setting something you don't subscribe to?
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Nah, I don't take the time to dice set, I just let em rip ha
Still a fan of the all day strategy
I really like the concept of the table, but I would like it to be felt with the screens. I don't like the plastic topper.
I love the plastic as a dice setter. Less bounce. I seem to have way more consistent rolls and less double pitching on these tables
Love your content man. I have yet to try this strategy. Been using a dark side iron cross for most of this year. Definitely gottta try though. Is this strat your favorite?
It’s a good one.
At 24:00 you’ve had back to back decent to good rolls and if you 7 you’re $5 up. This is not good. IMO, any good Strat has to hedge against loss while also making you money without needing consecutive 20 roll shooters…bc you will definitely have your point/7 rolls. In this Strat it’s just too hard to catch up. I play something similar, so I’m not dissing the Strat overall, but you were down to $440 after 1-2 bad rolls. It simply cannot sustain you to beef a 10 roll and a 20 roll to catch you up $60. IMO you need to add/change something for this to be viable. This will keep you at the table a long time, but it’s the equivalent of blinding out in poker.
I now prefer the RTW over the felt tables (don't have to deal with cranky dealers explaining what you want to bet, you get paid to the penny regardless if it's a proper bet or not, still get to throw the dice, etc.). Unfortunately the local casino (Ameristar @ Council Bluffs, IA) just pulled the RTW table out (with a BS excuse they didn't have enough dealers to man both electronics and felt tables - I think the real reason is that most of the dealers from the felt table were pissing and moaning (they hated having to rotate to the electronic table, it was beneath them). Why they didn't just teach dealers from the other card table games and rotate them into RTW is beyond me. I'm sick of the changes and crap that Vegas has implemented over the last 10 years - We used to make 3-4 trips a year there; not any more). Last time I was in Reno RTW wasn't introduced, now that it is I think it's time to put the Grand Sierra on my trip list. Good video, keep'em coming!
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Rumor is they are removing this table though and replacing with stadium craps, but all the benefits you mentioned would still be there. Can throw dice on real table, but all bets are digital…and hopefully still $5
The RTW machine at Harrahs in Cherokee NC is $10 minimum, I thought that meant $10 for each bet, but it's actually total bet. So on your $5 table, you could theoretically have a $1 line bet and a $4 field for the come out roll then once a point is established, just play the system like normal. That's what I did but with 5 and 5. Love the RTW tables, but the timer was too short for point rolls; only gave about 10 secs for us. The come out roll was 20 secs, which is too long for that phase of the game
All tables are different. My local is a $5 min bet. Not a $5 min total bet.
@ColorUp On the top of the screen above easy help and volume, it says "min total bet $5, max total bet $2000, odds 5x." I'm 80% sure that means you can have an aggregate total of $5 minimum across multiple bets, so $1 line and $4 horn on the come out SHOULD theoretically work, then you could make $1 bets on the inside and still be valid because you'd have $5 at risk. Any chance you could test this next time you're there?
@@Unholychaos987 I’ve tested, wouldn’t allow aggregate bet. At least under $5 on line or place bets. Maybe it would allow $5 worth of $1 prop bets. But main bets, it just won’t allow unless $5
I deal this very game at gun lake casino in Michigan. $5 minimum can be spread out. Minimum of 5 on the pass and don't pass wagers. $1 on each line number is possible
@nickdaniels2083 So you do need $5 minimum on the line bets, but the $5 minimum total can be spread across other bets and can be considered valid? For instance, a $3 C, $1 E, $1 field would be valid, but a $1 pass line and a $4 horn wouldn't be valid?
No odds on the point??? I saw some but not all.
does anyone know of there is a roll to win table for $5 minimum bet in Schreveport or anywhere in Louisiana?
I thought the sister was the opposite number (6 /8 ) (5 / 9) ? You show 8 hitting and taking the 9 down vs the 6.
Why bet only on 2 out of 4 hardways instead of $1 each? Or $2 on the 9 to 1 odds
Pausing video at 3:45 I'm noticing your place bets to the "6" when it's the button/point and you've got a pass line bet where you could get true odds behind it. Any reason to NOT have any "6" bet (regardless of the system) on the true odds behind the pass line in this situation? I feel like surviving the come out roll and establishing the point would be the best place to get odds vs. any place bets IMHO
I haven't been to Vegas in 10 years. Looks like they figured out a way to eliminate most of the craps table crew
Note at all, these are additional games for options, low rollers, those intimated by game. Not many in Vegas, and I haven’t seen any tables removed to put this game in, so essentially it’s adding one more table crew to floor
@@ColorUp ah... thanks for the update
casino doesn't care, they take your money over the long term, via the design of the table games. go ahead, use any strategy you want, you still need to make rolls to win.
That is correct
Hey Jeremy hope you’re having a great day!
I am! Thanks, right back at you.
I love the roll to win thank for finally doing my request love you bro ❤
Hi Jeremy, does Grand Sierra take your Players Card on the RTW table to earn comps? Thanks for all the great videos!
Yes they do, but it earns much slower than a slot machine
Could you post link to original video of strategy
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Dealers will love the fact that I am not a fan of the electronic table.
What time are you playing that no one is playing and they vacuuming lol
What’s the difference between “place” and “buy”
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whats the difference in buy/place bets ??
Buy bet pays better for essentially the same bet. On real tables there are some additional rules that apply ua-cam.com/video/qRsaYIj-cgc/v-deo.html
When did gsr go to a machine table? 😮
They added it couple years ago, they have recently replaced it with stadium craps. Real table with electronic terminals. The real tables are still in place though.
Have they yanked this table out of the casino after vegas seems to have removed them all?
Every time I dewey/don't...I roll 12s. Pisses me off!
Haha, craps gods are work
I've been trying this over at the big bubble craps behind you. Love it!
Fantastic!
What's the difference between a place bet and a buy bet?
Essentially a place bet that pays better. Here is details. ua-cam.com/video/qRsaYIj-cgc/v-deo.html
On that type table I shoot it like street dice
Good win!
That's why I hate those tables.. you tried to regress, and when you slide your bet down to take it off... The bet gets locked in on the pass line..😡 happened to me when was up some money. I had a lot on the table and wanted make sure of a profit. Ended up with a 45$ pass line because of that s$$t😡
Definitely one of drawbacks of this machine
What's the table surface? Hard like plexiglass?
yes
You keep saying ‘sister’ but 5/9 are not ‘sisters’ to 6/8 … maybe Neighbors ?!? Or, if you’re going to pull Down the next less likely neighbor might you start with a 4/10 bet as well ?? Also, if you start at a higher bet like $110 inside, what would you pull down too - table minimum ?? A little more discussion about other ‘options’ in the strategy might be interesting. ❤
5/9 are sister numbers to each other (same odds/payouts)
Watch original video on strategy to see more details.
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Which casino is this at?
I like how you agumented the strategy at the end to account for the pass line bet. If you have time I'd like to see something with a better review on that idea of involving the pass line. Mabye I'll play around with it at my home board and see how the odds play out. Mabye call it split the twins shift the sister ❤
You could also start with a Don't Pass bet.
What's the deal with the uneven pexiglass? Stickman tries to get the dice to you and hits the rough edge. Winstar in Oklahoma is the same. Sure seems like with all the money in the electronics they could afford to install one solid piece.
@waynetisue6828 It’s so dice can’t be slid by players (cheating)
Initial the machines came out like that, and players cheated by sliding the dice. The ridges prevent players from sliding the dice across a smooth surface.
Speed bumps.
@@ColorUp Thanks for the info. I didn't know that.
These tables are overcharging for the vig on the buy bets.
Well the rules on it are vague and I’ve brought it up, but it is definitely programmed to take vig on win amount when it should just be bet amount for a buy bet. It’s still a better deal than place bet. Not sure if it’s just a computer programmer not knowing rules, or purposefully done to squeeze a couple more Pennie’s from players
Just went to GSR today and saw the roll to win had a new rule up forcing players to hit both dice on the back wall - is that only for roll to win or are the live tables doing the same?
That’s pretty much a “rule” everywhere. I’ve never seen it strictly enforced at GSR, as long as people are making a real effort to toss dice.
In the beginning you hit the 8 and split the 5 and 9. When I watched your 1st video on this strategy you always split the number you hit. So I guess statistically it doesn't matter?
It doesn’t make a huge difference, if you split the 5/9 no matter what rolls, you still have a bigger bet on the 6/8 which is nice because they have the most probability to roll.
Where is this craps table located at?
GSR in Reno, NV
No odds???
hey thats one of my home casinos!
Mine too!
@@ColorUp I’ve played that table at GSR before but never had any luck lol
Bummer
I would kill for a $5 table. Want to try this strategy. I want to try this table also.
Live in east USA? plenty of $5 in midwest and west
there are no more 5 dollar tables bro
although keeps the riff raff out
what casino are you at?? ive never seen a mixed live/computer delt table... very neat!!!
on the very first roll when you established the 6 , why didn't you place odds on the 6 instead of making a place bet on the six ? true odds pay better than the place bet ??
i get so frustrated when i see the stickman be sloppy and cause the dice to roll or flip. it's not that hard to keep the dice still while giving them to the shooter. i like to keep the dice the way they landed for the next roll. am i the only one?
These tables have built in ridges to prevent dice sliding because of smooth surface
only need 1 dealer sadly i wont play this because it takes dealers jobs
In my local casino, it added a dealer job, they didn’t remove any real tables.
I have a similar system, but I play the dont pass line. and some variation I will be keeping to myself. lol because if you all start doing what I do the casino will find a way to stop it.
Hope this type of table doesn't catch on! We have one at Foxwoods and no one ever plays it!!
Watching this I'm questioning why you wouldn't play the field bets instead of the hardways to account for all the missed rolls? I'm still learning craps so I apologize if this is an obvious question.
Just not part of this particular strategy. You could use the field bet to cover more numbers if you like.
Brother did not bet the hard 8
The first roll you would have been up 2 bucks if you didnt have to pay the pass
I rather press aggressively
i rolled 25 at cherokee and lost money
They pulled all of these tables out of biloxi... dice don't roll well on that " plexiglass" noone ever hit the back wall and also some dealers were not typing in the correct rolls,on purpose to cheat. Apparently the tables became too much of a liability.
If 8.5 rolls is average, I am terrible.... Hahahaha... I think if I averaged all mine out I come in at like 4 rolls
Nah, I bet you’d be surprised if you actually tracked. Closer to 8.5 than you think