If I could be serious for a minute… why haven’t you subscribed yet? Anyway, watch the full interview with Lance here: ua-cam.com/video/k81YqfRhnIs/v-deo.html
People seem to misunderstand what Jim does on his podcast, likely because they only get to listen to soundbites rather than the whole thing. As a regular listener, I can tell you that he doesn't spend the whole time being hateful and trash-talking AEW and its wrestlers. He talks about what's going on in his life, tells stories from the past, reads listener emails and answers their questions. Because of his love of animals, he even has a segment dedicated to listeners who are grieving the loss of a pet. He will also take time to speak respectfully of wrestlers who have passed away, and spent about an hour and a half of a recent show talking about Terry Funk. He freely admits that his reviews of modern wrestling are something he does almost entirely because his listenership requests it, and he regularly covers both WWE and AEW. He will absolutely critique what he doesn't like, of course. Sometimes it's constructive, sometimes he just gives it an over-the-top comedic trashing, but he usually explains his reasons for disliking what he's seeing very coherently. He will also speak very highly of the stuff that he does like, even if it involves people that he doesn't like (Young Bucks, Omega, etc). He can also be a little biased towards his favorites, but isn't everyone? People seriously need to chill and stop acting like Jim is evil just because he doesn't enjoy the same type of wrestling that they do. He doesn't encourage his listeners to be hateful towards anyone, he just gives his opinion.
This. But most will only hear the soundbites and clips off UA-cam and Twitter. He's got great insight on most of wrestling and he'll also admit to what he doesn't know much of and comments appropriately. Admitting he's never met bray Wyatt and only critiquing his stuff is an example.
As someone who listens to a lot of Jim, he constantly says week after week that AEW Collision is the best opportunity to see a decent wrestling show in his reviews. As someone who didn't watch AEW, I tuned into the last week of shows including the All In PPV and immediately noticed the things Jim was talking about without trying, especially in his criticisms of pacing matches as well as some of the superstars (mainly Moxley & Orange Cassidy), given how dumb that stadium stampede match was. We've all seen him go over the top, but he's likely got thousands of hours of footage out there, so its only natural that theres going to be some exaggeration.
100% facts. Another thing a lot of people dont realize is that Cornette is just plain entertaining to listen to. His accent, vocabulary and timing is entertaining as hell, its like hes always cutting a promo. I always come out learning a new wacky word (Goozlepipe was this week's word lol). He even makes the sponsored ads the funniest parts of the show most weeks. His ads are so funny that they are uploaded as their own clip on youtube. What other podcasts does that?
@@Josue-wj2uf agree about the ads. he is so entertaining. theres a reason people tune in and not just for the critiques as people think thats what all his fans listen to.
The whole myth that Jim hates AEW and modern wrestling when he praises - CM Punk,Samoa Joe,FTR,MJF,Ricky Starks,Darby Allin,Jeff Jarrett,Jay Lethal,Juice Robinson,The Gunns,The Acclaimed,Powerhouse Hobbs,Claudio,Bryan Danielson,Wardlow,Miro,Mark Briscoe,Hook,Christian,Sting,Roderick Strong,Britt Baker,Thunder Rosa,Kris Statlander,Toni Storm But cause he hates a select few that automatically means he hates modern wrestling and AEW
I love Jim Cornette. I don’t agree with everything he says but I respect how much he cares about the wrestling business and you can tell he really wants the best for not just it but the individual wrestlers as well
Agreed. He might get sideways but who doesn't......when you speak all the time you are going to say some dumb stuff here and there...like you said he wants what wrestling was back....and I can't blame him...this stuff has gotten out of hand
All his anger is directed towards everything that is a disservice to the wrestlers' welfare and health, and to the wrestling business as it is and it's future. All he wants is the wrestling promoters to make money as much as they can, and the wrestlers to do this as long as they could and earn as much as they could. Everything else you can nitpick and disagree with, but anybody denying his overall stance is mind-blowing to me.
Bullshit. He only cares about wrestling as long as it's the kind of wrestling that HE thinks is acceptable, and anything he doesn't like and approve of can get fucked, because it's his way or the highway (which is an incredibly holier-than-thou attitude to take for a guy who doesn't even have a job in the industry any more because nobody wants to put up with his bullshit). When he decides he hates a guy, he won't even feign the slighest pretense of fairness towards them and he legit hopes that they die. I've never respected a single thing Cornette said ever since wished that Orange Cassidy would botch a dive out of the ring and break his neck just because he dared be a comedy wrestler- if he was "just joking" then it was a hypocritically disgusting joke for Mr. "Respect The Business" to make in light of all the guys who've been crippled or killed by in-ring accidents (Droz, Hayabusa, Misawa, Aguayo Jr. etc) and if he _wasn't_ joking then he's just a complete piece of shit.
@krispykreme3176 he's never met Moxley, shits on him constantly. Because he's the shits. He hates the Young Bucks because he believes they have no respect for professional wrestling. Ditto Omega. There's virtually no other wrestler in either major company who's matches he shits on without good reason. He regularly praises wrestlers and matches from either company.
In some ways, Cornette can be a really useful "southern compass". If what you want to do is exactly opposite to what he wants to see, the angrier you make him the better you're doing. But you have to listen to if he's saying "this is bad, period" or "this is bad because it's not my flavour of wrestling".
I've enjoyed listening to Jim. Tell me what happens in AEW far more than I could ever enjoy watching the show. Collision was great for a month, the last 2 weeks of sucked, and maybe it'll be good again after next weekend, but Jim telling me what happened in AEW is the funniest stuff I've heard in ages.
People wanna talk like Cornette, his views, and audience are some niche or fringe when in reality he's got the biggest wrestling podcast by far, and his other one is up there too. And his lead just keeps expanding, because he appeals to all those people that are fans of pro wrestling and don't like being told elementary school plays and parkour are pro wrestling.
@@duckmercy11 looks like you forgot some context. The ninja turtle was a spot show gimmick by a guy who already had the suit, and it was made clear it was a guy in a suit showing Cornette up on those spot shows. The mummy was something Rick Rubin, Cornette's backer wanted, so he couldn't say no. And the Power Ranger is something you just made up.
@@InvisibleHotdog Still stupid and unserious, no excuses. And there's context to Omega's sins too, i.e. the 9 y.o. girl was actually trained and her original female opponent wasn't available so Kenny stepped in. Plus it was just a 3min exhibition to show off her training (in a Joshi scene where it's normal for girls to start that young) not a serious match.
@@duckmercy11 you're trying to compare a little girl tossing around a grown man on a clip that got national and international attention, to a spot show gimmick where a grown man tossed around a manager? See you had no comment on the Power Ranger claim you made up tho.
That Canadian Destroyer spot recently in AEW is exactly why Jim Cornette is right when even the commentary team said "What are we watching?" Jim says some really crazy things but when it comes to the psychology of a wrestling match he's almost never wrong
You mean a lot of old guys could use that advice. They want the old school rest hold heavy matches and the younger audience doesn’t like that crap anymore. He wants everyone to wrestle like Barron Corbin.
AEW's problem is that the guys all still think they're in the indies and they've got to show off everything they can do every week to get scouted. They don't seem to realise that people can follow them week to week.
Yup and when people break out every move imaginable every single match it de-values them and makes it harder to seem impressive as well. Eventually people get desensitized to it.
@@IntoxicatedGhost1 Fair enough. I just don't know how much longevity that would have. I liked Orange Cassidy for the first 5 matches he did that went the same way. I ignore anything he's in now that he's up to match 30 that plays out in the exact same way with the exact same moves.
The problem with that is then people would be crying that they are trying to copy wwe so it's no win situation people are loyal to the brand they grew up watching and viciously defend it
AEW doesn't have a consistent vision. It seems unfocused on how it wants to present its booking and angles. You don't have to do what WWE does to have a consistent product--look at TNA before Hogan and Bischoff got in.
@@Luminator_maior If he were the promoter in charge, he would've dealt with it and not made a big deal about it publicly, but he isn't. He's a Podcaster whose sole job is to discuss his opinions and that's exactly what he did.
@@SupraViperhead That's all fine and well, it's just that his opinion on this matter sucks monkey balls. Also, it's either the POV of a promoter OR that of a podcaster, you can't have it both ways.
It's also an argument about the business aspect that there's no guarantees that the fan appeal sticks around after that absence and he's very risk averse in that way for any wrestler.
I love Cornette but people tend to get stuck in a time they thrived in. It’s the same with music. If you were rolling around, young, living life in the 90’s, you’re going to be convinced that music was the best then and it’s lame now. It’s human nature to glorify the time frame you love
@@MrShanester117 Low IQ take. Cornette just wants wrestling to be taken seriously because for a long time it was. There’s no modern alternatives to Tony’s comedy circus wrestling or Vince’s “sports entertainment.” That’s the problem. Not that Jim wants to relive his glory days simpleton.
@@MrShanester117 music and wrestling are not the same. Wrestling has styles and no matter the style you do the whole point is to blurred the lines of reality and make the audience believe and feel what they are seeing. Now, because kayfabe is dead, a small portion of the rest of the pro wrestling fans that are left don't care if it looks good or not and somehow like those shitty matches and segments that don't make the business grow
Cornette has explained that when he got into the wrestling business, it was still extremely protected and if you were allowed to get in and know the interworkings, you were expected to protect and defend it. He just still honors that to this day.
@@ArcaneAzmadiDefinitely has. Used to be the top paid athletes in the United States were professional wrestlers. Not basketball players, not baseball players, not football players. Now the business is a joke.
"Protecting the business" isn't about selling a lie--....its about selling *tickets.* That's what people nowadays don't get. If you know it's all fancy make-believe, then it seems like something you've already been there and done after you've paid to see it once. You want to keep people both invested AND guessing, taking the most profitable parts of soap opera and athletics. When Jim goes into the records of what small towns drew weekly, it sounds unbelievable today.
Corny was personally surprised that Becky Lynch would risk the biggest run of her career with that timing, nothing more, he didn't talk shit about her or anything else. People read headlines about the topic, didn't listen to what was actually said, went crazy and made their conclusions about Corny, as usual and as always
@@radicalstanza3614 Jim was talking through a business standpoint not a.personal standpoint. If you are an employer when you have a star talent and that talent in the middle of their career decides to they want to have a child it's the talrnys perogative but it doesn't make.much business sense for a few reasons that Jim pointed out. it costs the company money and business and it ultimately takes you away from the crowd. They forget about you and whatever shine you had gets lost. So all he was saying is, I don't get why you would do that when you have options not in the middle of you're career. It didn't make business sense. It may make personal sense but Jim was is in the business of promotion and management etc.
Jim’s audience is the 95% of people who used to watch wrestling but don’t anymore. He didn’t find an audience, they found him. And if you think Jim is playing a character of himself you are very naive.
You’re completely off the rocker if you think Jim isn’t playing up the hatred for his audience. He knows what sells, and he will shovel a lot of it down your throats.
That’s part of working. Mans been in the pro wrestling business most his life. It’s almost always a promo with him in general. And like all greats, he’s just being himself turnt up to the next level.
Cornette is just a sane mind in the wrestling world, who is watching people tear the business that he helped to create, limb from limb. There is a wrestling style subjectivity in there where he just doesn't like certain styles of wrestling but some of it is just pure garbage and you can't help but agreeing with him.
When you look at Cornette's history... The kid who worked his way into ringside photography, who then started managing, then promoting, writing, booking... he has a collection of memorabilia from nearly 100 years of wrestling that could form an epic museum, he has studied every aspect fo the industry... he is set in his ways about what it has become, but that is no different to some of the guys that came before him. I always wondered what Lou Thessz with a podcast would have said about the pimple faced 20 year old in an ill fitting suit swinging a tennis racquet around at ringside?
@@awesomehigames Now context : The diea was that Rock N' Roll Express wanted to humiliate Cornette for all the time he messed with them, of course a manager looses to a Ninja Turtle, but at the end of the show, Cornette and his Heavenly Bodies wrecked the Rock N' Roll for this humiliation. A bit more complex than "He did this gotcha".
Actually, Cornette never criticized Becky Lynch for having a baby. He criticized the timing of her having a baby. At the time she was the hottest act going in wrestling then she left for a year plus to have a baby and killed all her momentum. She hasn't come close to the level she was before she got pregnant, since she's been back.
I listen to Jim for years. The people who hate him don't listen to him nor understand him. They claim he is racist (fake), or only says negative things (fake). He only tries to help, & if you took the time to listen you'd understand.
I think there's a lot of bias against Jim and he is polarizing, but people will criticize him getting 1 thing wrong - like criticising Becky for getting pregnant when she did - and bury him over it, ignoring all of the stuff he gets right. Plus it's not like Jim just broadcasts his opinion like the gospel, when he criticised Becky, his co host Brian argued with him over it. When criticizing Jim everyone isolates the stuff that frames him badly, oddly Jim calls the Bucks great gymnasts and has complimented Omega's physique, as much as he hates them Cornette is far less biased than those who criticize him.
I dont listen to his podcast just the odd clips on youtube. From what I remember (it was a few years ago so I might be remember wrong) with the Becky thing Jim's whole point was she was at such a high point career wise that her getting pregnant was bad timing just in a bit more colorful way.
I see Cornette like wrestling's Gordon Ramsay. While they're both hotheaded and brash, they're also both very passionate about their respective fields. I haven't watched wrestling in decades, but enjoy listening to his perspectives and humor.
That's not true, h's praised Omega for two matches I know of, the one against Danielson and one at a NJPW show a year or so ago. Is it that hard for people to accept that some people just don't like Omega's type of wrestling? lol I get bored in most of his matches because it's the same spots and constant kickouts and overly choreographed.
@@InvisibleHotdog Well, they tend to stick around more for Omega but not the young bucks. If those guys wrestled like ten minute matches and it was the only style of match like that on each show it would be fine. But so many do that and there's is worse because it lasts 2-3 times as long.
Corny usually isn't wrong though. So the change in the tone in this video is pretty funny. For AEW - most of it is no-selling, narcissistic, botch and injury-filled ... nonsense. Guys do whatever they want to the detriment of their health and the sustainability of the product. It's ego filled garbage. Darby's going to be in a wheelchair in his mid 30s if not sooner. Moxley blades OPENLY IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA. These dudes saturate and overuse moves like the superkick and dives, they don't mean anything anymore. And on and on. And you can't be the world's best wrestler when you make everything look so fake and choreographed, your stuff misses, you don't sell, etc. This isn't hard. You don't even need to have Corny's passion to realize this stuff either. And most of the people trying to diminish this viewpoint - are people invested in AEW in one way or another or are desperately trying to keep up with the kids, rather than push back on what they're doing, just because the kids found a billionaire's son who marks out over everything. Bret said it semi recently ... this isn't wrestling. Edit: and if you really don't like what Corny and Bret and others say ... how about you actually address these points? Instead of attacking the person who's speaking them? Funny how that works. Since you can't argue the actual points, you need to discredit the person speaking. "Oh they're salty," "they just angry or bitter," etc. It's all obvious, kiddos.
Most of the time when Jim bashes something involving wrestling, he also says what would've made the match/segment better. He doesn't bash things just to bash them like his haters that don't listen to his podcasts think.
I always respect a truth teller, and Jim Cornette tells the truth about wrestling today. I don't believe he exaggerates. I believe people are just shocked to hear someone so blunt and without a filter. It would be great if Chris could interview Cornette and get his side of things.
Corny has gave Omega praise when he has seen him do stuff that is appealing, like he did say he can understand why people would like him when he did the NJPW match V Osprey due to the better presentation. I mean personally he'll always hate him for what he has done, and I'd say that's fair when you have the portfolio and passion cornette does, but he doesn't criticise out of pure spite. But even when he's taking the piss out of the product or talent, he usually does clearly highlight what is wrong and even offers his ideas on how to better them at times.
Lance is essentially the nice version of Cornette. Shares the same criticism, but contextualizes it in a way that gives someone the benefit of the doubt. Also I think he hit on something important. To Cornette wrestling is the most important thing in his life. The locker room and being “in on the secret” was sacred, something he put his safety and well being in danger of to protect, so when he sees guys wrestling children or blowup dolls he feels like they’re betraying the business he put himself in danger to protect.
In fairness to Jim, with the help of his co-host, he has very slowly begun to give Omega credit for some of his in-ring work lately. He'll never have a positive word to say about his promos, but he at least does give him credit for being and looking the part of a great athlete. It took many years of Kenny having great matches to make Jim ever see past the blow up doll stuff for even a moment, but it's happening.
Cornette has been saying the same thing since the early 2000s, there's interviews here on UA-cam of him saying what he says today on his podcast, saying it way back in 03. His message & delivery has been consistent for 20yrs, he's not playing a role. Modern day wrestling, for the most part, sucks ass. Millions of excommunicated wrestling fans, like myself, use Jim's podcast as a substitute for the entertainment we use to get from watching wrestling.
I love listening to Corny's stories, and agree with maybe about 70% of his takes on modern wrestling. I do listen to his podcasts because I find them funny and entertaining, until he veers off into politics and religion, because I'm the polar opposite of him there. I don't like listening to someone bash my personal beliefs, so I just turn it off when he does that.
As a avid listener of corny it’s kinda funny how most of my favorite moments of his podcast is him talking about anything but wrestling lol I love hearing him talking about Animals
Cornette never really watched him cuz i wasnt alive in the 80s. But what a great promo, dudes a legend. He watches all the aew in the world, and he gives credit to many people most people who dont watch modern wrestling would shit on. I think he's going easy on these guys compared to his old shoot video days where he just shit on certain topics.
Jim Cornette leans into his gimmick on the show because that is what makes him Jim Cornette.... he is hyperbolic and over the top, but that doesn't automatically mean he is wrong in the overall point being made.
Again it’s not about being wrong it’s about why the fuck do you continue to watch wrestling that you don’t like and why the fuck do you continue to talk on other peoples business that you just don’t know all you hear is from speculation in the dirt sheets that you have put down yourself
Ignoring Jim Cornette's professional wrestling advice would be foolish, he's got a great mind for it. However, actively looking for things to hate and trying to get his fans to hate it too, does not help. Nor will it help the product. It is what it is, love him or hate him, he's going to be around for a long time.
He’s not actively trying to find things to hate, if anything he’s going out of his way to find things he thinks are good. He says good things about the good things and says the bad things are bad. Or is that too complicated? Do you need Dave Meltzer the spokesperson for Kenneth and the Cucks, to explain it?
Cornette on the podcast isnt a persona. He is 100% himself, something other podcasters probably cant accept because they dont have the balls to do it. He has a clear point of view and he is staying true to his ideals. Also he praises a lot of modern wrestlers too which people like to ignore. darby, ricky starks, bullet club gold, the acclaimed.. (could keep going forever) he had pretty much nothing but positives to say about them - as long as they dont insult the business and that really is the crux of the matter with everything he says.
I love James E Cornette. James E Cornette as a manager taught me so much about wrestling as a fan back in the 80s, cause he was the best heel there was. And CVV you're so right about James E Cornette. I absolutely love him cause he is a modern day treasure for wrestling, he has been in wrestling for so long and we need to appreciate him.
Lance Storm could give this advice to the aew locker room and half would start crying that he's picking on them and the other half would get mad and say I don't need to take advice from an old guy.
Jim's advice for Lance can really be applied to any form of entertainment. Movies, TV, concerts. You're not doing it for you, you're doing it for the fans because they're the ones that bought the ticket. Those two ideas don't always have to be mutually exclusive, of course.
I havent listened to Cornette's podcast in maybe 7 or 8 years. But I do catch a lot of the youtube clips. A large part of the outrage people have for him that I've seen on twitter is they heard a sound bite out of context, rather then the full clip. His views on the bucks are pretty fair and with Omega I get where he is coming from. He praises modern talent that do a good job and take things seriously and will admit when hes wrong. Good example is Iyo Sky he just assumed she was like the outlaw Japanese girls AEW brought in (Maki Itoh) and wasnt a good worker. When he saw the Backlash match she had earlier he put her over
To be fair to Cornette here, he did review the omega and will osprey match in New Japan and had really good things to say about it. He mentioned that it seemed Omega was taking the match seriously for once😜.
A lot of wrestlers in AEW hate Jim Cornette because he speaks the truth. And these young wrestlers thesedays are so disrespectful, so they can't take his constructive criticizm and fix their own mistakes in the ring and just hate on him just like they hate on CM Punk. they believe that they are right to do all of these crazy stuns😅 Everybody in AEW is John Moxley now.😂 Because that's what you do when you can't do good promo to get yourself over
There's a really good chat between them both about Stampede Wrestling that I think Kayfabe Commentaries did as part of a Territories series years ago. Definitely worth tracking down if you can.
I enjoyed aew during punks run and Jim knowledge of wrestling makes me a fan. The way Jim talks about a match, you’ll see it in your mind and it’ll all make sense
As a regular listener of Cornette's show, I can tell you that what he says on his show isn't a gimmick. It's what he truly believes, for better or for worse. And a lot of comments on his YT videos do call him out on things as well. Plus, he got A LOT of stuff right on CM Punk's departure and AEW's locker room bullshit in hindsight.
Ugh it's frustrating to see people misrepresent Jim. It's fine to have a baby, it's fine to do whatever you want with your life. But there is a little thing called poor timing and anything can be poorly timed. Jim is all for Becky having a baby. Timing is the issue. It's also frustrating to see people try to discredit him by passing off his statements as radio showmanship. He is certainly a character but he is that on and off the podcast. His fans like him partly because he is himself and won't compromise.
Cornette was right about Lynch.. She was on the verge and its gone.. Why do you think so many old timers waiting or didnt have kids at all? What Cornette hates about Omega is that they dont try.. They dont try to suspend belief, they dont try to work good outside of highspots and no one can watch that show and try to take themselves into that world. It's only an exhibition of highspots and thats why wrestling is dying today. It's not a story anymore and its just gymnastics. I tried to get back into awhile back because i was bored and i stopped because one day i noticed i dont even like this and i was forcing myself to watch it every week. I was wasting hours of my time every single week to watch a show i dont like that is filled with people i dont take seriously and dont consider as tough guys. I can still watch old stuff when they presented themselves seriously
Lance describes it perfectly. I love Cornette's stories of the olden days, his road stories, stories of ribs, stories of the boys and girls, but boy oh gee, do I dislike his takes on modern wrestling. Especially when he clearly misses big parts of the shows he's 'watching'. He's an old man shouting at clouds.
I like these videos, I love you to interview those whom I love or recognize and get them to answer your questions or share their stories, thoughts, etc. With that being said, please try to get Jim Cornette on your show, brother Chris. I feel it just needs to happen. Let us all convince Mr Cornette!
So what I’m hearing is that Cornette is a giant goddamn hypocrite. Because the piece of advice that he gave to Lance Storm, the one that he credits as being one of the best pieces of advice he’s gotten, which is apparently old-fashioned, was “wrestle for the audience, not yourself”. Kenny Omega wrestled a comedy match in a wrestling company, in front of a wrestling audience, that frequently featured comedy. He did exactly what Cornette told Jericho and Storm to do in Hazard, Kentucky. But no, I guess it’s a sin when somebody else does it.
Honestly lance is wrong that Jim gives no credit to Omega because of his past. He absolutely has given credit to Omega at times , even if its faint praise. Jim always calls it how he sees it, i dont think hes playing a character. He hams it up for comedy but hes giving his true feelings and has a Dynamite sized crowd listening to his podcast every week because of it.
It’s always so jarring hearing anyone say “Hazard, KY”, as a native from the town over. Jim Cornette rules, the only wrestling podcast I stay on top of.
Regardless of whether Cornette's comments are work or shoot, it's indictive of a larger issue with modern wrestling audiences in that they feel people should agree with their views and are horrible if they don't. There are top stars across both AEW and WWE that I personally don't see the hype in but it's clear to me that I'm in the minority with them so they should be pushed. Wrestling is a melting pot in that you want different styles for different fans so there is something for everyone. Like with Cornette there are some viewpoints I agree with and some that I don't. The same is true for Lance Storm. I used to read his wrestling commentaries every week back when it was a website and not a podcast. Some things I agreed with and some I didn't. I think sometimes the IWC fails to realize that they are the minority fanbase. The majority of wrestling fans do not read the "dirt sheets" or even channels like this.
Character or not, there is no room in the wrestling community for toxicity. Cornette gets views based on his toxic comments and it just perpetuates the notion that people have to hate something in order to be loved. People think it's cool to hate-watch something and I feel Cornette has heavily contributed to that school of thought.
Yes, finally... somebody who says something that make sense. Do the match that the audiences want, not the match that you want. ❤ Jim Cornette, the real legend.❤
The comment about the kid and Becky. All he was saying was she was hot at that time. EVERYTHING ELSE ASIDE. Becky Lynch had a kid and she came back to dead creative and was not as over. Thats not a dig dont get pregnat or w/e. Right now she is in a dead fued with trish. Wwe and in general wrestling creative is know for this type of thing.
She wasn't as over *before* she left. She peaked peaked between Summerslam 2018-19. Look up the the main event from Survivor Series 2019, Lynch vs. Bayley vs. Baszler. Crowd was straight dead.
My favorite wrestling companies right now are NJPW and NOAH. Jim Cornette basically almost trashes NJPW and their wrestlers. He trashes a lot of things I like. I still listen to his stuff cuz it's entertaining. I don't have to agree to be entertained.
I was the same way until recently but I had to stop because his special hatred for joshi was too over the top for me. It's one thing to prefer southern/men's/American wrestling, but hating on NJPW when they do the style closest to what he likes and calling calling Joshi wrestlers interchangeable fetish objects? Nah, had to stop listening.
Lance is very correct about Jim. Wrestling is his child. That's why he despises Vince Russo. It's not because he did something personal to Jim. No, it's because he made a mockery out of the business and ruined careers, at least according to Jim. Jim truly loves wrestling and yes, even wrestlers who are passionate about it. Wrestling was his life since 13-14 yo and still is to this day. He has his own flaws, like stubbornness, refusing to admit the business has changed, being wrong about some wrestlers, etc. However, I do respect him a lot because he knows a TON about wrestling and really, the points he makes must be applied in today's wrestling as well. If all superstars listened to his advices, I think they'd be much better at their job.
I disagree that Corny doesnt give Kenny his dues as a wrestler tbh. He has seen just how athletic kenny is and recognizes it. He just hates the person :P
It’s like Lance said. Kenny had that incredible draw with Danielson and Jim praised it and Danielson for how good the overall match was, and he even said ‘Danielson got a good match out of Ole’ Kenny, it’ll be the only one he gets.’
You can say a lot of thing about Jim but when someone say Jim's vision is outdated that's just flat out wrong like he loves FTR, Gunther, Bullet Club Gold and every wrestling commuinty love them too so is it really outdated?
If I could be serious for a minute… why haven’t you subscribed yet?
Anyway, watch the full interview with Lance here: ua-cam.com/video/k81YqfRhnIs/v-deo.html
I hardly recognized him I seen 1 the thumbnails Lance Storm has changed a lot.
People seem to misunderstand what Jim does on his podcast, likely because they only get to listen to soundbites rather than the whole thing. As a regular listener, I can tell you that he doesn't spend the whole time being hateful and trash-talking AEW and its wrestlers. He talks about what's going on in his life, tells stories from the past, reads listener emails and answers their questions. Because of his love of animals, he even has a segment dedicated to listeners who are grieving the loss of a pet. He will also take time to speak respectfully of wrestlers who have passed away, and spent about an hour and a half of a recent show talking about Terry Funk.
He freely admits that his reviews of modern wrestling are something he does almost entirely because his listenership requests it, and he regularly covers both WWE and AEW. He will absolutely critique what he doesn't like, of course. Sometimes it's constructive, sometimes he just gives it an over-the-top comedic trashing, but he usually explains his reasons for disliking what he's seeing very coherently. He will also speak very highly of the stuff that he does like, even if it involves people that he doesn't like (Young Bucks, Omega, etc). He can also be a little biased towards his favorites, but isn't everyone?
People seriously need to chill and stop acting like Jim is evil just because he doesn't enjoy the same type of wrestling that they do. He doesn't encourage his listeners to be hateful towards anyone, he just gives his opinion.
This. But most will only hear the soundbites and clips off UA-cam and Twitter. He's got great insight on most of wrestling and he'll also admit to what he doesn't know much of and comments appropriately. Admitting he's never met bray Wyatt and only critiquing his stuff is an example.
As someone who listens to a lot of Jim, he constantly says week after week that AEW Collision is the best opportunity to see a decent wrestling show in his reviews. As someone who didn't watch AEW, I tuned into the last week of shows including the All In PPV and immediately noticed the things Jim was talking about without trying, especially in his criticisms of pacing matches as well as some of the superstars (mainly Moxley & Orange Cassidy), given how dumb that stadium stampede match was. We've all seen him go over the top, but he's likely got thousands of hours of footage out there, so its only natural that theres going to be some exaggeration.
This, all of this. And when he does critique AEW or WWE, it’s because he knows it could and should be so much better
100% facts. Another thing a lot of people dont realize is that Cornette is just plain entertaining to listen to. His accent, vocabulary and timing is entertaining as hell, its like hes always cutting a promo. I always come out learning a new wacky word (Goozlepipe was this week's word lol). He even makes the sponsored ads the funniest parts of the show most weeks. His ads are so funny that they are uploaded as their own clip on youtube. What other podcasts does that?
@@Josue-wj2uf agree about the ads. he is so entertaining. theres a reason people tune in and not just for the critiques as people think thats what all his fans listen to.
The whole myth that Jim hates AEW and modern wrestling when he praises - CM Punk,Samoa Joe,FTR,MJF,Ricky Starks,Darby Allin,Jeff Jarrett,Jay Lethal,Juice Robinson,The Gunns,The Acclaimed,Powerhouse Hobbs,Claudio,Bryan Danielson,Wardlow,Miro,Mark Briscoe,Hook,Christian,Sting,Roderick Strong,Britt Baker,Thunder Rosa,Kris Statlander,Toni Storm
But cause he hates a select few that automatically means he hates modern wrestling and AEW
True he hates the goofs that embarrass wrestling or people who put themselves in danger because he doesn’t want to see any wrestler get hurt anymore
It stems from the AEW marks refusing to accept any criticism of AEW. One MUST absolutely love everything AEW does, in their eyes.
@@locustjohn3865 This. He wants them to do well without hurting themselves or others, and draw money. Not embarrass themselves and injure each other.
He even likes Logan Paul who is basically the third Young Buck
He doesn’t like the wrestlers the incels fawn over.
I love Jim Cornette. I don’t agree with everything he says but I respect how much he cares about the wrestling business and you can tell he really wants the best for not just it but the individual wrestlers as well
Agreed. He might get sideways but who doesn't......when you speak all the time you are going to say some dumb stuff here and there...like you said he wants what wrestling was back....and I can't blame him...this stuff has gotten out of hand
All his anger is directed towards everything that is a disservice to the wrestlers' welfare and health, and to the wrestling business as it is and it's future. All he wants is the wrestling promoters to make money as much as they can, and the wrestlers to do this as long as they could and earn as much as they could. Everything else you can nitpick and disagree with, but anybody denying his overall stance is mind-blowing to me.
Bullshit. He only cares about wrestling as long as it's the kind of wrestling that HE thinks is acceptable, and anything he doesn't like and approve of can get fucked, because it's his way or the highway (which is an incredibly holier-than-thou attitude to take for a guy who doesn't even have a job in the industry any more because nobody wants to put up with his bullshit). When he decides he hates a guy, he won't even feign the slighest pretense of fairness towards them and he legit hopes that they die. I've never respected a single thing Cornette said ever since wished that Orange Cassidy would botch a dive out of the ring and break his neck just because he dared be a comedy wrestler- if he was "just joking" then it was a hypocritically disgusting joke for Mr. "Respect The Business" to make in light of all the guys who've been crippled or killed by in-ring accidents (Droz, Hayabusa, Misawa, Aguayo Jr. etc) and if he _wasn't_ joking then he's just a complete piece of shit.
He’s clearly just shitting on the people he disagrees with personally and praises the wrestlers he has some relationship with, to the point of parody
@krispykreme3176 he's never met Moxley, shits on him constantly. Because he's the shits. He hates the Young Bucks because he believes they have no respect for professional wrestling. Ditto Omega. There's virtually no other wrestler in either major company who's matches he shits on without good reason. He regularly praises wrestlers and matches from either company.
I enjoy AEW and Cornette trashing it, at the same time
Right. Like that PPV was epic. I'm sure Jim will lose it, but it is what it is. I'll still listen to it. 😂
@@liloreoinyathe stadium stampede he toasted it lol
Me too! I can't help it!
In some ways, Cornette can be a really useful "southern compass". If what you want to do is exactly opposite to what he wants to see, the angrier you make him the better you're doing.
But you have to listen to if he's saying "this is bad, period" or "this is bad because it's not my flavour of wrestling".
I've enjoyed listening to Jim. Tell me what happens in AEW far more than I could ever enjoy watching the show.
Collision was great for a month, the last 2 weeks of sucked, and maybe it'll be good again after next weekend, but Jim telling me what happened in AEW is the funniest stuff I've heard in ages.
People wanna talk like Cornette, his views, and audience are some niche or fringe when in reality he's got the biggest wrestling podcast by far, and his other one is up there too. And his lead just keeps expanding, because he appeals to all those people that are fans of pro wrestling and don't like being told elementary school plays and parkour are pro wrestling.
With the added bonus of not being Kevin Nash
'Elementary school plays and parkour aren't wrestling' neither are Ninja Turtles, mummies and Power Rangers. Selective outrage.
@@duckmercy11 looks like you forgot some context. The ninja turtle was a spot show gimmick by a guy who already had the suit, and it was made clear it was a guy in a suit showing Cornette up on those spot shows. The mummy was something Rick Rubin, Cornette's backer wanted, so he couldn't say no. And the Power Ranger is something you just made up.
@@InvisibleHotdog Still stupid and unserious, no excuses. And there's context to Omega's sins too, i.e. the 9 y.o. girl was actually trained and her original female opponent wasn't available so Kenny stepped in. Plus it was just a 3min exhibition to show off her training (in a Joshi scene where it's normal for girls to start that young) not a serious match.
@@duckmercy11 you're trying to compare a little girl tossing around a grown man on a clip that got national and international attention, to a spot show gimmick where a grown man tossed around a manager? See you had no comment on the Power Ranger claim you made up tho.
That Canadian Destroyer spot recently in AEW is exactly why Jim Cornette is right when even the commentary team said "What are we watching?" Jim says some really crazy things but when it comes to the psychology of a wrestling match he's almost never wrong
A lot of wrestlers should use that advice Corny gave to Lance.
Why no one remembers him
You mean a lot of old guys could use that advice. They want the old school rest hold heavy matches and the younger audience doesn’t like that crap anymore. He wants everyone to wrestle like Barron Corbin.
@@rollingthunder8223 so a Wrestler should not listen to the audience?
@@smellywaffels1967 so new wrestlers should not appeal to the audience?
@@smellywaffels1967 You clearly don't listen to the Podcast because Cornette doesn't like Corbin, Plus, there is NO SUCH THING as a "rest hold".
Wow Lance is such an eloquent speaker! Definitely will listen to the full version of this interview!
I could honestly listen to Lance speak for hours.
AEW's problem is that the guys all still think they're in the indies and they've got to show off everything they can do every week to get scouted. They don't seem to realise that people can follow them week to week.
Or maybe that's their target audience
Yup and when people break out every move imaginable every single match it de-values them and makes it harder to seem impressive as well. Eventually people get desensitized to it.
@@IntoxicatedGhost1 Fair enough. I just don't know how much longevity that would have. I liked Orange Cassidy for the first 5 matches he did that went the same way. I ignore anything he's in now that he's up to match 30 that plays out in the exact same way with the exact same moves.
The problem with that is then people would be crying that they are trying to copy wwe so it's no win situation people are loyal to the brand they grew up watching and viciously defend it
AEW doesn't have a consistent vision. It seems unfocused on how it wants to present its booking and angles. You don't have to do what WWE does to have a consistent product--look at TNA before Hogan and Bischoff got in.
Jim Cornette is basically the funniest man alive who also happens to be the most knowledgeable man in wrestling. Twinkle Toes for life lol.
Corentte's "rant" on Lynch was from the POV of a promoter not being able to use their top star.
So? That promoter should do his job and deal with it, instead of whining about it.
@@Luminator_maior If he were the promoter in charge, he would've dealt with it and not made a big deal about it publicly, but he isn't. He's a Podcaster whose sole job is to discuss his opinions and that's exactly what he did.
@@SupraViperhead That's all fine and well, it's just that his opinion on this matter sucks monkey balls. Also, it's either the POV of a promoter OR that of a podcaster, you can't have it both ways.
It's also an argument about the business aspect that there's no guarantees that the fan appeal sticks around after that absence and he's very risk averse in that way for any wrestler.
@@kellenneal6533 True. Especially if they can't shake the ring rust or injuries mean they're wrestling at a milder pace than they used to.
So cornettes biggest fault is being the last person who cares about the integrity of the business he loves?
Yes.
I love Cornette but people tend to get stuck in a time they thrived in. It’s the same with music. If you were rolling around, young, living life in the 90’s, you’re going to be convinced that music was the best then and it’s lame now. It’s human nature to glorify the time frame you love
@@MrShanester117 Low IQ take. Cornette just wants wrestling to be taken seriously because for a long time it was. There’s no modern alternatives to Tony’s comedy circus wrestling or Vince’s “sports entertainment.” That’s the problem. Not that Jim wants to relive his glory days simpleton.
@@MrShanester117 music and wrestling are not the same. Wrestling has styles and no matter the style you do the whole point is to blurred the lines of reality and make the audience believe and feel what they are seeing. Now, because kayfabe is dead, a small portion of the rest of the pro wrestling fans that are left don't care if it looks good or not and somehow like those shitty matches and segments that don't make the business grow
@@carlosr6462exactly ‼️
Cornette has explained that when he got into the wrestling business, it was still extremely protected and if you were allowed to get in and know the interworkings, you were expected to protect and defend it. He just still honors that to this day.
I guess that says it all, really: Cornette simply bloody-mindedly *refuses to accept* the fact that _the wrestling business has changed._
@ArcaneAzmadi it certainly has changed, there are fewer eyes watching wrestling now than back in the 80s and 90s.
@@ArcaneAzmadi but not for the better though......
@@ArcaneAzmadiDefinitely has. Used to be the top paid athletes in the United States were professional wrestlers. Not basketball players, not baseball players, not football players. Now the business is a joke.
"Protecting the business" isn't about selling a lie--....its about selling *tickets.* That's what people nowadays don't get.
If you know it's all fancy make-believe, then it seems like something you've already been there and done after you've paid to see it once. You want to keep people both invested AND guessing, taking the most profitable parts of soap opera and athletics.
When Jim goes into the records of what small towns drew weekly, it sounds unbelievable today.
Corny was personally surprised that Becky Lynch would risk the biggest run of her career with that timing, nothing more, he didn't talk shit about her or anything else. People read headlines about the topic, didn't listen to what was actually said, went crazy and made their conclusions about Corny, as usual and as always
She had already peaked. The WM main event was a year before and the pandemic had started. The company was coasting. Who cares?
@@duckmercy11that's not the point 🙄
Now she's not even than important. It's the Rhea show now
This is how I remember it and im not even a listener of his podcast I just catch the odd youtube clip.
@@radicalstanza3614 Jim was talking through a business standpoint not a.personal standpoint. If you are an employer when you have a star talent and that talent in the middle of their career decides to they want to have a child it's the talrnys perogative but it doesn't make.much business sense for a few reasons that Jim pointed out. it costs the company money and business and it ultimately takes you away from the crowd. They forget about you and whatever shine you had gets lost. So all he was saying is, I don't get why you would do that when you have options not in the middle of you're career. It didn't make business sense. It may make personal sense but Jim was is in the business of promotion and management etc.
Cornette might rub ppl the wrong way but he is one of the ONLY ppl left in wrestling that wants it to be taken serious as well as entertaining
True 🙏🏼as controversial as he may be he knows the wrestling business inside and out
If people dislike Jim's views on wrestling, 99% of the time it's 'cause they know they're wrong
@@InvisibleHotdog most of them are aew wrestlers and Tony khan 😭😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️
@@InvisibleHotdogor because occasionally he’s wrong..? Like I get the guy is passionate about pro wrestling but he’s also kind of insane 😂
@@InvisibleHotdogI’d say more like 75-85%. He’s very biased towards certain people and types of matches
Cornettes take on current wrestling is just gold. Best wrestling podcast on youtube
I think Cornette just keeps it real.
Jim’s audience is the 95% of people who used to watch wrestling but don’t anymore. He didn’t find an audience, they found him. And if you think Jim is playing a character of himself you are very naive.
💯
95% of people didn't watch redneck 80s rasslin, they watched WWF in the mid-late 80s and late 90s which Cornette was barely part of.
You’re completely off the rocker if you think Jim isn’t playing up the hatred for his audience. He knows what sells, and he will shovel a lot of it down your throats.
@@saief3213 the AEW and WWE reviews are like 20% of a podcast episode... he even doesn't like to do them but the audience requests it.
That’s part of working. Mans been in the pro wrestling business most his life. It’s almost always a promo with him in general. And like all greats, he’s just being himself turnt up to the next level.
Cornette is just a sane mind in the wrestling world, who is watching people tear the business that he helped to create, limb from limb. There is a wrestling style subjectivity in there where he just doesn't like certain styles of wrestling but some of it is just pure garbage and you can't help but agreeing with him.
When you look at Cornette's history... The kid who worked his way into ringside photography, who then started managing, then promoting, writing, booking... he has a collection of memorabilia from nearly 100 years of wrestling that could form an epic museum, he has studied every aspect fo the industry... he is set in his ways about what it has become, but that is no different to some of the guys that came before him.
I always wondered what Lou Thessz with a podcast would have said about the pimple faced 20 year old in an ill fitting suit swinging a tennis racquet around at ringside?
Smokey Mountain was an "outlaw mudshow" promotion. Cornette booked himself in a half hour match against a bootleg ninja turtle.
@@awesomehigames Now context : The diea was that Rock N' Roll Express wanted to humiliate Cornette for all the time he messed with them, of course a manager looses to a Ninja Turtle, but at the end of the show, Cornette and his Heavenly Bodies wrecked the Rock N' Roll for this humiliation.
A bit more complex than "He did this gotcha".
Actually, Cornette never criticized Becky Lynch for having a baby. He criticized the timing of her having a baby. At the time she was the hottest act going in wrestling then she left for a year plus to have a baby and killed all her momentum. She hasn't come close to the level she was before she got pregnant, since she's been back.
I listen to Jim for years. The people who hate him don't listen to him nor understand him. They claim he is racist (fake), or only says negative things (fake).
He only tries to help, & if you took the time to listen you'd understand.
I think there's a lot of bias against Jim and he is polarizing, but people will criticize him getting 1 thing wrong - like criticising Becky for getting pregnant when she did - and bury him over it, ignoring all of the stuff he gets right. Plus it's not like Jim just broadcasts his opinion like the gospel, when he criticised Becky, his co host Brian argued with him over it. When criticizing Jim everyone isolates the stuff that frames him badly, oddly Jim calls the Bucks great gymnasts and has complimented Omega's physique, as much as he hates them Cornette is far less biased than those who criticize him.
I dont listen to his podcast just the odd clips on youtube. From what I remember (it was a few years ago so I might be remember wrong) with the Becky thing Jim's whole point was she was at such a high point career wise that her getting pregnant was bad timing just in a bit more colorful way.
I see Cornette like wrestling's Gordon Ramsay. While they're both hotheaded and brash, they're also both very passionate about their respective fields. I haven't watched wrestling in decades, but enjoy listening to his perspectives and humor.
During dark periods in my life I've had Arn and Jim's podcasts to listen to. Lots of laughs I've had and both are legends in the industry 💯
That's not true, h's praised Omega for two matches I know of, the one against Danielson and one at a NJPW show a year or so ago. Is it that hard for people to accept that some people just don't like Omega's type of wrestling? lol I get bored in most of his matches because it's the same spots and constant kickouts and overly choreographed.
Fr, it's almost like ppl don't wanna watch someone wrestle a 9 year old and a sex doll 💀
Some people? Most people. AEW rarely gets over a million and they turn the channel on The Elite
MOST people don't like Omega's style of wrestling.
@@InvisibleHotdog Well, they tend to stick around more for Omega but not the young bucks. If those guys wrestled like ten minute matches and it was the only style of match like that on each show it would be fine. But so many do that and there's is worse because it lasts 2-3 times as long.
Corny is the man. The advice,knowledge,and experience is uncanny.
Corny usually isn't wrong though. So the change in the tone in this video is pretty funny. For AEW - most of it is no-selling, narcissistic, botch and injury-filled ... nonsense. Guys do whatever they want to the detriment of their health and the sustainability of the product. It's ego filled garbage. Darby's going to be in a wheelchair in his mid 30s if not sooner. Moxley blades OPENLY IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA. These dudes saturate and overuse moves like the superkick and dives, they don't mean anything anymore. And on and on. And you can't be the world's best wrestler when you make everything look so fake and choreographed, your stuff misses, you don't sell, etc. This isn't hard. You don't even need to have Corny's passion to realize this stuff either. And most of the people trying to diminish this viewpoint - are people invested in AEW in one way or another or are desperately trying to keep up with the kids, rather than push back on what they're doing, just because the kids found a billionaire's son who marks out over everything. Bret said it semi recently ... this isn't wrestling. Edit: and if you really don't like what Corny and Bret and others say ... how about you actually address these points? Instead of attacking the person who's speaking them? Funny how that works. Since you can't argue the actual points, you need to discredit the person speaking. "Oh they're salty," "they just angry or bitter," etc. It's all obvious, kiddos.
Most of the time when Jim bashes something involving wrestling, he also says what would've made the match/segment better. He doesn't bash things just to bash them like his haters that don't listen to his podcasts think.
I always respect a truth teller, and Jim Cornette tells the truth about wrestling today. I don't believe he exaggerates. I believe people are just shocked to hear someone so blunt and without a filter.
It would be great if Chris could interview Cornette and get his side of things.
Jim has an amazing mind for the business it’s a shame he’s not part of a wrestling company to impart all that knowledge on the younger generation
Yeah but he's too old and doesn't want to travel or put up with bs now, he's content
Corny has gave Omega praise when he has seen him do stuff that is appealing, like he did say he can understand why people would like him when he did the NJPW match V Osprey due to the better presentation. I mean personally he'll always hate him for what he has done, and I'd say that's fair when you have the portfolio and passion cornette does, but he doesn't criticise out of pure spite. But even when he's taking the piss out of the product or talent, he usually does clearly highlight what is wrong and even offers his ideas on how to better them at times.
1:45 thats exactly me regarding Cornette
Jim cornette is the MAN He respects wrestling
Kinda feels like he is the main character of the film Idiocracy, but instead of the world its the wrestling business
Yeah he’s “the man” All right, that’s why he let big show, cena, and Kevin nash all run a train on his gorgeous wife 😂😂😂😂
@@williamfurdyn5334proof?
@@vb2806 You know what he's proof is.....Trust Me Bruh !!!!
I'm sure the guy is a young bucks mark.
@@vb2806 You’ve really never heard about any of that..? Bro just google it 💀
I respect Cornettes opinion massively but I also disagree with a lot of what he says, I agree with a lot
chris you should interview the russo arch nemesis himself jim "lazy booking" cornette 😂😂e
I love Jim Cornette I listen to him every day
I am a big fan of Cornette. Lance is criminally underrated.
Cornette is knowledgeable and a good talker. Also alot of his points resonate with disenchanted wrestling fans.
Lance is essentially the nice version of Cornette. Shares the same criticism, but contextualizes it in a way that gives someone the benefit of the doubt. Also I think he hit on something important.
To Cornette wrestling is the most important thing in his life. The locker room and being “in on the secret” was sacred, something he put his safety and well being in danger of to protect, so when he sees guys wrestling children or blowup dolls he feels like they’re betraying the business he put himself in danger to protect.
In fairness to Jim, with the help of his co-host, he has very slowly begun to give Omega credit for some of his in-ring work lately. He'll never have a positive word to say about his promos, but he at least does give him credit for being and looking the part of a great athlete. It took many years of Kenny having great matches to make Jim ever see past the blow up doll stuff for even a moment, but it's happening.
Cornette has been saying the same thing since the early 2000s, there's interviews here on UA-cam of him saying what he says today on his podcast, saying it way back in 03. His message & delivery has been consistent for 20yrs, he's not playing a role. Modern day wrestling, for the most part, sucks ass. Millions of excommunicated wrestling fans, like myself, use Jim's podcast as a substitute for the entertainment we use to get from watching wrestling.
I love listening to Corny's stories, and agree with maybe about 70% of his takes on modern wrestling. I do listen to his podcasts because I find them funny and entertaining, until he veers off into politics and religion, because I'm the polar opposite of him there. I don't like listening to someone bash my personal beliefs, so I just turn it off when he does that.
I think its just him being honest and in todays world where everybody is scared to pisd someone off hes authentic im that matter
As a avid listener of corny it’s kinda funny how most of my favorite moments of his podcast is him talking about anything but wrestling lol I love hearing him talking about Animals
I still don't think anything will ever beat the time he spent a half hour talking about a youth crashing into his fence one morning. 😂😂
Cornette never really watched him cuz i wasnt alive in the 80s. But what a great promo, dudes a legend. He watches all the aew in the world, and he gives credit to many people most people who dont watch modern wrestling would shit on. I think he's going easy on these guys compared to his old shoot video days where he just shit on certain topics.
Lance Storm is one of the most underrated wrestlers of all time, in my opinion
Jim Cornette leans into his gimmick on the show because that is what makes him Jim Cornette.... he is hyperbolic and over the top, but that doesn't automatically mean he is wrong in the overall point being made.
Again it’s not about being wrong it’s about why the fuck do you continue to watch wrestling that you don’t like and why the fuck do you continue to talk on other peoples business that you just don’t know all you hear is from speculation in the dirt sheets that you have put down yourself
Ignoring Jim Cornette's professional wrestling advice would be foolish, he's got a great mind for it. However, actively looking for things to hate and trying to get his fans to hate it too, does not help. Nor will it help the product. It is what it is, love him or hate him, he's going to be around for a long time.
He’s not actively trying to find things to hate, if anything he’s going out of his way to find things he thinks are good. He says good things about the good things and says the bad things are bad. Or is that too complicated? Do you need Dave Meltzer the spokesperson for Kenneth and the Cucks, to explain it?
Cornette on the podcast isnt a persona. He is 100% himself, something other podcasters probably cant accept because they dont have the balls to do it. He has a clear point of view and he is staying true to his ideals. Also he praises a lot of modern wrestlers too which people like to ignore. darby, ricky starks, bullet club gold, the acclaimed.. (could keep going forever) he had pretty much nothing but positives to say about them - as long as they dont insult the business and that really is the crux of the matter with everything he says.
Ok but he is the old man screaming into the clouds
I love James E Cornette. James E Cornette as a manager taught me so much about wrestling as a fan back in the 80s, cause he was the best heel there was. And CVV you're so right about James E Cornette. I absolutely love him cause he is a modern day treasure for wrestling, he has been in wrestling for so long and we need to appreciate him.
Lance Storm could give this advice to the aew locker room and half would start crying that he's picking on them and the other half would get mad and say I don't need to take advice from an old guy.
CVV’s smiling makes me unconditionally. Keep up the great content though 😂
Jim's advice for Lance can really be applied to any form of entertainment. Movies, TV, concerts. You're not doing it for you, you're doing it for the fans because they're the ones that bought the ticket. Those two ideas don't always have to be mutually exclusive, of course.
“If I can be serious for a minute”
I havent listened to Cornette's podcast in maybe 7 or 8 years. But I do catch a lot of the youtube clips. A large part of the outrage people have for him that I've seen on twitter is they heard a sound bite out of context, rather then the full clip. His views on the bucks are pretty fair and with Omega I get where he is coming from. He praises modern talent that do a good job and take things seriously and will admit when hes wrong. Good example is Iyo Sky he just assumed she was like the outlaw Japanese girls AEW brought in (Maki Itoh) and wasnt a good worker. When he saw the Backlash match she had earlier he put her over
Always good to see Lance Storm
To be fair to Cornette here, he did review the omega and will osprey match in New Japan and had really good things to say about it. He mentioned that it seemed Omega was taking the match seriously for once😜.
Lance Storm could not have said it any better.
Cornette is the only wrestling content needed.
Kind of ironic since Cornette seems to only want matches done his way now.
Twinkle Toes McFinger Bang, you gotta say the full name Chris!
😂😂 we all know he watches
Chris has his own opinions, unlike the Cult of Cuck.
A lot of wrestlers in AEW hate Jim Cornette because he speaks the truth.
And these young wrestlers thesedays are so disrespectful, so they can't take his constructive criticizm and fix their own mistakes in the ring and just hate on him just like they hate on CM Punk.
they believe that they are right to do all of these crazy stuns😅
Everybody in AEW is John Moxley now.😂 Because that's what you do when you can't do good promo to get yourself over
I enjoyed Storm's appearances on Jim's podcast in the earlier years, pity that he won't ever go on again due to issues with Brian.
They very rarely have guests on the show anyway and the only ones they have on are the makers of dark side of the ring or Stephen P New.
I would love to hear a event watch along with Lance and Jim,. throw Al Snow in the mix, and it would be a clinic on psychology.
There's a really good chat between them both about Stampede Wrestling that I think Kayfabe Commentaries did as part of a Territories series years ago. Definitely worth tracking down if you can.
I enjoyed aew during punks run and Jim knowledge of wrestling makes me a fan. The way Jim talks about a match, you’ll see it in your mind and it’ll all make sense
That's probably the best explanation for Cornette's continued dislike of Omega that I've ever heard.
As a regular listener of Cornette's show, I can tell you that what he says on his show isn't a gimmick. It's what he truly believes, for better or for worse. And a lot of comments on his YT videos do call him out on things as well. Plus, he got A LOT of stuff right on CM Punk's departure and AEW's locker room bullshit in hindsight.
Lance hit the nail on the head. Love his knowledge of wrestling history and I won’t even click on a clip of him talking about done after ‘03😂
Ugh it's frustrating to see people misrepresent Jim. It's fine to have a baby, it's fine to do whatever you want with your life. But there is a little thing called poor timing and anything can be poorly timed. Jim is all for Becky having a baby. Timing is the issue.
It's also frustrating to see people try to discredit him by passing off his statements as radio showmanship. He is certainly a character but he is that on and off the podcast. His fans like him partly because he is himself and won't compromise.
Cornette was right about Lynch.. She was on the verge and its gone.. Why do you think so many old timers waiting or didnt have kids at all?
What Cornette hates about Omega is that they dont try.. They dont try to suspend belief, they dont try to work good outside of highspots and no one can watch that show and try to take themselves into that world. It's only an exhibition of highspots and thats why wrestling is dying today. It's not a story anymore and its just gymnastics. I tried to get back into awhile back because i was bored and i stopped because one day i noticed i dont even like this and i was forcing myself to watch it every week. I was wasting hours of my time every single week to watch a show i dont like that is filled with people i dont take seriously and dont consider as tough guys. I can still watch old stuff when they presented themselves seriously
Lance describes it perfectly. I love Cornette's stories of the olden days, his road stories, stories of ribs, stories of the boys and girls, but boy oh gee, do I dislike his takes on modern wrestling. Especially when he clearly misses big parts of the shows he's 'watching'.
He's an old man shouting at clouds.
I like these videos, I love you to interview those whom I love or recognize and get them to answer your questions or share their stories, thoughts, etc.
With that being said, please try to get Jim Cornette on your show, brother Chris. I feel it just needs to happen. Let us all convince Mr Cornette!
So what I’m hearing is that Cornette is a giant goddamn hypocrite.
Because the piece of advice that he gave to Lance Storm, the one that he credits as being one of the best pieces of advice he’s gotten, which is apparently old-fashioned, was “wrestle for the audience, not yourself”.
Kenny Omega wrestled a comedy match in a wrestling company, in front of a wrestling audience, that frequently featured comedy. He did exactly what Cornette told Jericho and Storm to do in Hazard, Kentucky.
But no, I guess it’s a sin when somebody else does it.
Of course He is the biggest hypocrite ever and poison to the wrestling business
FACTS.
I would listen to Lance Storm talking about wrestling all day.
Honestly lance is wrong that Jim gives no credit to Omega because of his past.
He absolutely has given credit to Omega at times , even if its faint praise. Jim always calls it how he sees it, i dont think hes playing a character. He hams it up for comedy but hes giving his true feelings and has a Dynamite sized crowd listening to his podcast every week because of it.
Awaiting Jim's response...
You've got to interview Cornette.
You should get Cornette on the podcast
It’s always so jarring hearing anyone say “Hazard, KY”, as a native from the town over. Jim Cornette rules, the only wrestling podcast I stay on top of.
Regardless of whether Cornette's comments are work or shoot, it's indictive of a larger issue with modern wrestling audiences in that they feel people should agree with their views and are horrible if they don't. There are top stars across both AEW and WWE that I personally don't see the hype in but it's clear to me that I'm in the minority with them so they should be pushed. Wrestling is a melting pot in that you want different styles for different fans so there is something for everyone. Like with Cornette there are some viewpoints I agree with and some that I don't. The same is true for Lance Storm. I used to read his wrestling commentaries every week back when it was a website and not a podcast. Some things I agreed with and some I didn't. I think sometimes the IWC fails to realize that they are the minority fanbase. The majority of wrestling fans do not read the "dirt sheets" or even channels like this.
"There is an additional part to that but we'll leave that out" had me dying.
Character or not, there is no room in the wrestling community for toxicity. Cornette gets views based on his toxic comments and it just perpetuates the notion that people have to hate something in order to be loved.
People think it's cool to hate-watch something and I feel Cornette has heavily contributed to that school of thought.
Yes, finally... somebody who says something that make sense. Do the match that the audiences want, not the match that you want. ❤
Jim Cornette, the real legend.❤
The comment about the kid and Becky. All he was saying was she was hot at that time. EVERYTHING ELSE ASIDE. Becky Lynch had a kid and she came back to dead creative and was not as over. Thats not a dig dont get pregnat or w/e. Right now she is in a dead fued with trish. Wwe and in general wrestling creative is know for this type of thing.
Correct Jim was shocked why she having a kid on top he made an observation
It wasn't about not having a kid. It was confusion on why someone would walk away while at the peak of their career. At their earning peak.
She wasn't as over *before* she left. She peaked peaked between Summerslam 2018-19. Look up the the main event from Survivor Series 2019, Lynch vs. Bayley vs. Baszler. Crowd was straight dead.
Lance is a very thoughtful chap.
My favorite wrestling companies right now are NJPW and NOAH. Jim Cornette basically almost trashes NJPW and their wrestlers. He trashes a lot of things I like. I still listen to his stuff cuz it's entertaining. I don't have to agree to be entertained.
I was the same way until recently but I had to stop because his special hatred for joshi was too over the top for me. It's one thing to prefer southern/men's/American wrestling, but hating on NJPW when they do the style closest to what he likes and calling calling Joshi wrestlers interchangeable fetish objects? Nah, had to stop listening.
Lance is very correct about Jim. Wrestling is his child. That's why he despises Vince Russo. It's not because he did something personal to Jim. No, it's because he made a mockery out of the business and ruined careers, at least according to Jim. Jim truly loves wrestling and yes, even wrestlers who are passionate about it. Wrestling was his life since 13-14 yo and still is to this day. He has his own flaws, like stubbornness, refusing to admit the business has changed, being wrong about some wrestlers, etc. However, I do respect him a lot because he knows a TON about wrestling and really, the points he makes must be applied in today's wrestling as well. If all superstars listened to his advices, I think they'd be much better at their job.
I disagree that Corny doesnt give Kenny his dues as a wrestler tbh. He has seen just how athletic kenny is and recognizes it. He just hates the person :P
It’s like Lance said. Kenny had that incredible draw with Danielson and Jim praised it and Danielson for how good the overall match was, and he even said ‘Danielson got a good match out of Ole’ Kenny, it’ll be the only one he gets.’
NAH
He hates omega approach to wrestling that hes an artist and a wrestling match is his canvas
@@pleaseshutup7053He's an artist in the same way a pre-schooler doing potato printing is an artist.
@@syko2695 😝😝 this is why I wrote comments response like this thank you for saying the words I couldn’t find
Jim just really loves the wrestling business and he takes things to heart when it insults the thing he loves💯
Thats the best advice and take on what's wrong with AEW. They're doing matches for each other, not the audience.
Yeah but most of the time Cornette is right...
You can say a lot of thing about Jim but when someone say Jim's vision is outdated that's just flat out wrong like he loves FTR, Gunther, Bullet Club Gold and every wrestling commuinty love them too so is it really outdated?
Lance Storm has got to be one of the most rational people in wrestling.
If Jim is playing a part for his podcast then he sure as hell got me. I still believe he is just being himself.
Can we get a Jim Cornette interview?
No. He doesn't do interviews where he's not 100 per cent in control.
Corny has a great system to keep an audience engaged. Heck I wish Corny would do a watch along with one of the aew ppvs.
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Jim Cornette is my favourite thing in wrestling today.
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