Fishing for my FAVORITE FLATHEAD BAIT!! (BIG BAITS)

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  • @sunfishassassin5963
    @sunfishassassin5963 2 роки тому +37

    When I was a kid I would dress in camouflage and and go hunting fish or sight fishing. 😆 if bass or bream were spawning I would belly crawl and lay and watch them before I caught them..

  • @EFTProf
    @EFTProf 2 роки тому +3

    The way you yelled; "DOH!" There, I thought you were channeling your inner HOMER.! ! ! 😆😄😂🤣

  • @tacdad1034
    @tacdad1034 2 роки тому +1

    Good secret "lake" - I've bait fished it many times. Made me smile.

  • @DryerOutdoors
    @DryerOutdoors 2 роки тому +10

    I know the feeling of catching the bait by yourself being a chore. It sure does feel that way. Thankfully my 4 year old daughter loves to cath the bait with me so it kind of helps specially when she can cast set the hook and reel in by herself. Keep up the great videos Spencer. My daughter and i enjoy watching them!

  • @PhotonChief
    @PhotonChief 2 роки тому +3

    Greenies are such neat-looking fish when they are all colored up. Probably my second favorite, top is the brook trout. They have similar patterns.

  • @curtisbaker5407
    @curtisbaker5407 2 роки тому +1

    My most FAVORITE BAIT!! Fiesty ole' bullhead!! Can catch them in about ANY hole of water round here and it's GAME OVER most the time when they're dancing round flattie territory...ALTHOUGH I will have to say that my PB fell for a largemouth about 1 1/2 lber...but to tell you the truth...ANYTHING LIVELY WILL DO! but it MUST DANCE 🕺

  • @deefisherguy
    @deefisherguy 2 роки тому +11

    you sir were 17 mins late today..... boy did i think you werent uploading cant scare us like that!

    • @RiverCertified
      @RiverCertified  2 роки тому +2

      My life has been a blur lately, but I'm hanging in there and doing my best. Hopefully it won't happen again.

    • @deefisherguy
      @deefisherguy 2 роки тому +3

      @@RiverCertified man you post when you can my guy we love your content so much we hold you to it no matter how long a wait im watching.

    • @jbabie135
      @jbabie135 2 роки тому +3

      Right. River rat for life

  • @halozombienc
    @halozombienc 2 роки тому +1

    Just got back from catching a dozen bluegill at a local scummy retention pond for my Saturday morning trip. Tight lines folks!

  • @agailframe6590
    @agailframe6590 2 роки тому +1

    Enjoying your bait fishing

  • @brianbenedict8374
    @brianbenedict8374 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome vid as usual. But I find myself saying that's what she said when you talk as you fish. Makes my day!!!

  • @dennypitman5272
    @dennypitman5272 2 роки тому +2

    Catching bait is one of my favorite things to do!!

  • @fishbrainfrancis5174
    @fishbrainfrancis5174 2 роки тому +1

    The tilted road walk up to the unknown was very Kubrick in "the shining". Nice. Also, pink, Floyd's The wall film....double homage not easy to do Lebowski

  • @codydavis2301
    @codydavis2301 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video, these bait fishing videos always get me fired up for chasing big cats on the weekends!

  • @thomasawesomeaustin1085
    @thomasawesomeaustin1085 2 роки тому +1

    I love war mouth bass and 4-6 inch largemouth bass. For flathead bait. Another 🐐 video. You can be the Bill Dance of UTube Flatheads. I'll keep watching.

  • @pstonedawg9576
    @pstonedawg9576 2 роки тому +2

    Fishing is awesome , it's about the journey not the destination !! Tight Lines Spencer 🐟🐟🐟 Big flathead is in your future !!

  • @attitudeadjusted9027
    @attitudeadjusted9027 2 роки тому +1

    Bluegill beat down..... another Spencer quote 😜. Green sunfish are fantastic bait for brush piles especially. We can't use any bigger than nine inch bullhead down here. Sucks. We used to use two pounders. Half pound green sunfish are good too. Great vid and keep your powder dry and your pantry stocked young man 💪😎🙏

  • @fishlessfisherman1539
    @fishlessfisherman1539 2 роки тому +1

    Great pan fishing is Central Park in Jones county. Been going there my entire life. Never disappointed. Awesome video Spencer. 🍻

  • @pigsandapples
    @pigsandapples 2 роки тому +1

    Love catching bait and love watching your bait catching vids. Fishing at it's most basic. Takes me back to childhood.

    • @walte99
      @walte99 2 роки тому

      Well, Spencer is a child still so there's that.😆

  • @pedrocruz4710
    @pedrocruz4710 2 роки тому +2

    Those are gonna work nicely! Can't wait for the next one!

  • @Wuzzzzup87
    @Wuzzzzup87 2 роки тому +6

    "Blue gill beat down" lol 😆 Good stuff! 👍
    Pretty much sums it up when catching bait with my 12 year old. Usually he's catching them all or I am. How do you catch your bullheads?

  • @waterratlyle2590
    @waterratlyle2590 2 роки тому +1

    Some great bait catching in this one. Can't wait to see what they catch on the next one.

  • @C_JAdventures
    @C_JAdventures 2 роки тому +2

    Heck yea, having bait secured is such a nice feeling! Hope all of them turn into 50+ pounders! Good luck, hope you catch a giant!
    Also, a topic for a podcast, I dont know how popular it'll be since we're adults - but I know I still get a little creeped out by myself at night when I'm fishing. Have any of yall experienced weird things at night when fishing that got your hair a standing up on the back of your neck or some goosebumps going?

    • @BowfishinpredatorBGB
      @BowfishinpredatorBGB 2 роки тому +1

      Oh for sure. I was camping out one night and had a couple of Bobcats fighting a few hundred yards away....even knowing what it was still got the hairs on end!

  • @frickschunnoutdoors304
    @frickschunnoutdoors304 2 роки тому +1

    always wanna see more. havent had much luck on the catfish myself. plenty of bluegill and sunfish though. crappie seem to have hid back down deep around here as well

  • @andrewjames8980
    @andrewjames8980 2 роки тому +1

    those little crappie hair jigs in chartreuse are money for greenies, save you the hassle of worms if you need a backup or alternative.

  • @cherrytsume
    @cherrytsume 2 роки тому +1

    My boy love watching these videos, they're my favorite bait spot lol

  • @502austin8
    @502austin8 2 роки тому +2

    I have a similar bait tank as yours but it's a 150 gallon glass aquarium. I have about 15 bullheads most 5-7 inches but 3 of them are about 10 inches. And about 12-15, 3 to 5 inch green sunfish. I use bring 3 or 4 of each when I go fishing on my 2 Rods bankfishin. Mostly use the sunfish as cutt bait

  • @Yelladog78
    @Yelladog78 2 роки тому +1

    When I was a kid every pond here in N.E. Oklahoma was full of bullheads, we called them " mudcats" now they're nowhere to be found. Some folks say when the ranchers started fertilizing hay meadows that the runoff settled in the ponds and killed them off but idk?

  • @mikem201
    @mikem201 2 роки тому

    Between the green sunfish & bullheads them flathead are in deep do-do. Give 'em hell River Certified!

  • @timothygutekunst9007
    @timothygutekunst9007 2 роки тому +1

    Have you ever tried eating gills or sunnies. They are delicious. Also another good bait for them I use is crickets they go nuts.

  • @skeetermalcolm1655
    @skeetermalcolm1655 2 роки тому +2

    Looks like there's going to be a bunch of flat head videos coming soon brother, really looking forward to it

    • @RiverCertified
      @RiverCertified  2 роки тому

      Hope so! Heading out in a couple hours for them.

  • @jonathanhang4486
    @jonathanhang4486 2 роки тому +1

    Why green sunfish over bullheads?? Do they just dangle better :)

  • @bigcripfishing3964
    @bigcripfishing3964 2 роки тому +1

    I'm going flathead fishing for the first time Saturday!!! Sooooo excited I'm goin fishing for bullheads and greenies also good luck tight lines my friend 💪🏾♿🎣

    • @krazyfishkid8398
      @krazyfishkid8398 2 роки тому

      If you hook one hold on tight!!! They fight like
      no other fish… good luck too you

  • @drw5252
    @drw5252 2 роки тому +2

    this video is awesome it's simple that's the main thing about fishing just keep it simple great job

  • @MarioJArellano
    @MarioJArellano 2 роки тому +1

    I use tiny gamakatsu circle hooks. They work awesome for these little fish.

  • @mauricenations7511
    @mauricenations7511 2 роки тому +1

    Enjoyed the video and that’s some awesome bait. Good luck

  • @donnyletgo1577
    @donnyletgo1577 2 роки тому +1

    100lbers are lurking this weekend I can feel it you better go land one Spencer!

  • @hensleyshobbies-doug7761
    @hensleyshobbies-doug7761 2 роки тому +1

    I had a couple of different ponds in Ohio that was loaded with green sunfish, but one of the ponds had a lot, lot a lot of tiny green sunfish in it, so I started utilizing them, I'd put a rubber band around the top of the shank of the hook, just under the eye a little bit, and then put like 3 or 4 of those small green sunfish on the hook, alive, just hook them under the dorsal and put them right next to each other, man you talk about putting off a lot of commotion in the water and action, geez, the first time I tried that I caught a 32 lb flathead and then about everytime after that I caught at least one in the 30's, and those work very good under a float! you've heard of the double whammy, well that was like the triple and quadruple whammies! haha! Just shows to go you don't have to have big bait sometimes. oh that rubber band is to keep those green sunfish from going up your hook further or over your eye, and if you use 3, 4 ,5 small one's, I'd put another rubber band on the hook after the last green sunfish and below the barb, to keep them from going over the barb!

  • @rogerwilliams977
    @rogerwilliams977 2 роки тому

    That's what I call a fun day. Hope you catch a giant too!

  • @e.t.preppin7084
    @e.t.preppin7084 2 роки тому

    Channel your inner blue heron ! Classic. 😎

  • @AnubisJuice
    @AnubisJuice 2 роки тому +1

    There was a mountain lion caught on a security camera one block from where my grandparents live in Des Moines, and there are a lot of sightings down on the Bill Riley bike trail as well.

  • @teammosin9999
    @teammosin9999 2 роки тому

    Again, a very enjoyable vid. Catching bait is always a blast!

  • @PapaOutdoors238
    @PapaOutdoors238 4 місяці тому

    Hey Spencer. Really enjoyed watching you guys catch baitfish. Showed my wife and she said "NO" eat those big perch. I admit some of those perch looked mighty tasty😅. Great video

  • @DoinBurnouts
    @DoinBurnouts 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video like always good luck on the next fishing trip you go on have a nice day.

    • @RiverCertified
      @RiverCertified  2 роки тому

      Thank you kindly sir

    • @DoinBurnouts
      @DoinBurnouts 2 роки тому

      @@RiverCertified np keep up the good work can’t wait to see the big ones you catch

  • @mbahdoelkampret4196
    @mbahdoelkampret4196 2 роки тому

    Amazing fresh water fishing

  • @UnSeenExcite
    @UnSeenExcite 2 роки тому +1

    Lake Laverne on campus, great sunfish location!

  • @515Bowhuntr
    @515Bowhuntr 2 роки тому

    Saw you on the river two weekends ago now. My buddy and I were in a small Lund. You saved two tubers floating down river well you at least took them back up river. You ended up staying up river only 50 yards or so from us!! We got three channel cats two of them on snoopy! I actually saw you today as well you were heading to the boat ramp and we’re in a turning lane when I was hanging out the window acting like I was casting a pole towards you 😂😂 but best of luck fishing!! Hope to see you again to chitchat and maybe set up a guide trip

  • @TaterChip91
    @TaterChip91 2 роки тому +1

    Thoughts about how the Cubs are doing this year? Or today's 8th inning 5 run comeback just to drop it in the 10th

  • @xzavierwarren9092
    @xzavierwarren9092 2 роки тому +1

    what is that you use for your portable bait tank not the 5 gallon bucket but the other container

  • @tjgatica24
    @tjgatica24 2 роки тому

    lol take an extravagant thumbnail like ty! couldnt have been more accurate lmao he just dropped a video with a bluegil thumbnail💀😂🤣

  • @Brunnen_Gee
    @Brunnen_Gee 2 роки тому +1

    I don't bother with worms for greenies, just small soft plastics like Mr Crappie or Bobby Garland. Or heck, small inline spinners or micro crankbaits work great for them. You'll still catch them about every cast with those.

  • @joelwcarter8058
    @joelwcarter8058 2 роки тому +1

    green sunfish is good bait for hybred striped bass

  • @michaelsams3314
    @michaelsams3314 2 роки тому +1

    Hey man try takeing all off your line but your hook no jig head just a number 6 hook and bait .. it works so much better than with the big splash the bobber and the rest of the stuff make

  • @calvinhoward2407
    @calvinhoward2407 2 роки тому +1

    Them my favorite too

  • @droningharry
    @droningharry 2 роки тому

    You make it look so easy and fun, come to think of it, it is!

  • @robertmassie3452
    @robertmassie3452 2 роки тому +1

    Do y’all have the river chubs, looks just like a regular chub just has black dots all over. Them and the softy’s, your greenie’s lol I’m with ya, only one choice green sunfish any day of the week!!! The river chubs are stout, durable and work it all night. I wade and get below shallow riffle’s in medium water currents.

    • @RiverCertified
      @RiverCertified  2 роки тому +1

      Not that I know of but they sound like awesome bait. I accept delivery haha

    • @robertmassie3452
      @robertmassie3452 2 роки тому

      @@RiverCertified I try and get a dozen around 5 to 8”s long and we have some ledges below me here, daytime and float them 13’ by huge ass river boulders. We do that as a fun day while wading, biggest though around 25ish. This is a couple mile strip of just riffles every 30 yards and average in the deepest is 8’. Killer early smallmouth lol yeah but who’s going smh only part I know that’s like this so it good fishing. Fun nighttime bite on channels, cut bait in 2’ of water 10 to 15 pound fish is fun lol we even use wooden pill boat here. Get drunk and pole in the dark …. We enjoy

  • @jacobbunch7502
    @jacobbunch7502 2 роки тому +1

    Do you have pumkinseeds out there? I have good luck with them and they are absolutely beautiful.

  • @loudogg0028
    @loudogg0028 2 роки тому +1

    Tell Wes for future big cat references: cheetahs are the fast ones that dont generally climb and you'd stand a fighting chance. Leopards are the powerhouses that'll drag you up into a tree and have been eating us for almost the entirety of our evolutionary history, and you stand basically 0 chance against a leopard. The more you know 🌈⭐️

  • @nickashbaugh1386
    @nickashbaugh1386 2 роки тому +1

    great video as always. say you wouldnt happen to know the release date of that whisker seeker bait tank ?

  • @randykeck6458
    @randykeck6458 2 роки тому +1

    I just went to my greenie honey hole. Unfortunately the house is up for sale so once it sells I may have to find a new spot. Just walked away with 16 good ones.

  • @217rebeloutdoors5
    @217rebeloutdoors5 2 роки тому

    got to stock up on the bait great video man keep it up and keep those lines tight

  • @nishantadian9177
    @nishantadian9177 2 роки тому

    What a beautiful spot.

  • @troyholstein5256
    @troyholstein5256 2 роки тому +1

    Have you ever tried freshwater drums live or cut bait

  • @joelwcarter8058
    @joelwcarter8058 2 роки тому +1

    city parks are one of the best places to get catfish bait

  • @gregwegrzyn1989
    @gregwegrzyn1989 2 роки тому +1

    Just went and got my bait. Some good size bluegills my self

  • @twrea
    @twrea 2 роки тому

    Also those taste amazing too!

  • @charlesadoketa9080
    @charlesadoketa9080 2 роки тому +3

    I always enjoy watching a relaxing bait fishing video. There's a spot 5 min away from my parents' house where you can catch enough perfect bait-sized sunfish, black bullheads, and creek chubs to fill a cooler. Too bad I don't flathead fish!
    Speaking of mountain lions... I used to be spooked by them in NE Kansas...but then I hit a deer with my car. Now I welcome them! Although you should hear the rumors about the hill kitties from the locals, I bet they sound a lot like stories from you Iowegians. But unlike the "catfish the size of Volkswagens under the dam", at least there's photographic proof of the lions here!

    • @RiverCertified
      @RiverCertified  2 роки тому

      You can always mail me some haha. I bet Kansas cougars are a lot like Iowa ones. Few and far between. Thanks for watching!

  • @krishawkins5758
    @krishawkins5758 2 роки тому +1

    I think you would like my green sunfish spot I catch 1/2 pounders all the time! Those might make good bait... but great video man keep up the great work! I also like a wacky rigged senko around heavy shallow structure for the big green sunfish!

  • @bluesdad54
    @bluesdad54 2 роки тому

    Sometimes the bait fishing is "almost" as much fun as fishing the cats. Lol. Nice day on the ponds.
    I don't think we have a lot of bullheads here in North Carolina. I have caught a few, very small, in tiny creeks here. Mostly seems to be bluegill, shellcrackers and warmouth. And of course, shad. At least I haven't found many cat anglers that use bullheads.
    Regional speciality, I guess.
    Keep posting, I'll keep watching. Good on ya, Spencer!

  • @Surge_General
    @Surge_General 2 роки тому

    i love catching bait for my catfish endevours
    notha great video!

  • @Flarexxxx
    @Flarexxxx 2 роки тому +1

    only cats we have here in nova scotia are brown bullheads, some spots ive caught 2lb ones

    • @RiverCertified
      @RiverCertified  2 роки тому +1

      That monstrous for a bullhead. I'd put it on a hook haha

    • @Flarexxxx
      @Flarexxxx 2 роки тому

      @@RiverCertified oh trust me i would for sure if we had flattys and if they were legal for bait (there invasive and because of the spines apparently)

  • @CatfishandCrappie
    @CatfishandCrappie 2 роки тому +1

    Noice! Love a full bait tank!

  • @zbreeden7622
    @zbreeden7622 2 роки тому +1

    I just nabbed a couple live bluegill to try my hand at blue cats. Unfortunately I don't have the tank you do so they are waiting in my bathtub until it's time to go out lol

  • @Joseph_Perusek
    @Joseph_Perusek 2 роки тому

    i feel like just a few months ago you were at 80k subscribers now your at 120 growing fast! good video

  • @jmease96
    @jmease96 2 роки тому +1

    How I mess my bait bucket lid up like yours that's mint lol love it bro slay m bro

  • @gorillapup3387
    @gorillapup3387 2 роки тому

    Try using a bobby garland itty bit swimr black/white/glitter on a 1/64oz jig. Bluegill and greensunfish tear them up. Even caught bass and catfish on them

  • @scottodonahoe9505
    @scottodonahoe9505 2 роки тому +1

    When I catch green sunfish Ice fishing I move . They like low oxygen content water that gills and crappies can't take for very long !

  • @unforgettableohotto
    @unforgettableohotto 2 роки тому

    River Certified & Kayak Catfish should really do a video together. I think that would be great idea anyway, unless it isn't.

  • @mauritobias8759
    @mauritobias8759 2 роки тому

    AWESOME VIDEO AS ALWAYS 🤙🤙🤙HEY HERE IN CALI... THAT ROUND TUBE FULL OF HAY INFRONT OF FISHING WITH THE STEAKS IN IT... I GET NIGHTCRAWLERS FROM UNDERNEATH THEM!!! TAKE A LOOK MAYBE NEXT TIME 🤔🤔🤔

  • @jessebaumun3098
    @jessebaumun3098 2 роки тому

    this is the best. if you can't catch small fish you cant catch the big ones. took my oldest son fishing for sunfish at 2yrs and now hes catching the big ones with me. his step brother too. the youngest has been out but he's still iffy a 4yrs old. likes doing it but doesn't want much to do with the fish.. yet..

  • @BowfishinpredatorBGB
    @BowfishinpredatorBGB 2 роки тому

    We just had a bait session last week that turned into a fish fry lol. Gotta love the unexpected

  • @collinharris1030
    @collinharris1030 2 роки тому

    When is the whisker seeker bait cooler coming out?

  • @derekmeador6803
    @derekmeador6803 2 роки тому +1

    Man! How many of those were big wads of moss?

  • @CGfishin
    @CGfishin 2 роки тому +1

    Do you use green sunfish for cutbait? Also how would you fish a dam this time of year? Love the bait fishing vids keep ‘em coming!

  • @crookedtoothcustoms6316
    @crookedtoothcustoms6316 2 роки тому +1

    My all time best flathead bait personally is small drum. It just gets crushed for me.

  • @jamesscott684
    @jamesscott684 2 роки тому

    Is it Me Or Spencer looking Like A High school Kid😂😂😂😂😂must be the good fishing😁😁😁👍👍👍

  • @LeviW133
    @LeviW133 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video man love your videos keep up the good work and I appreciate your videos I have learned alot from you and if you keep it up there you will be a top fisherman on UA-cam , you missed my comment in the ln the last video

    • @RiverCertified
      @RiverCertified  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks man. I try my best to get to them all, but I run out of time sometimes.

  • @jwrogers8867
    @jwrogers8867 2 роки тому

    Just watching some older videos of you and ty in the Amazon about 5 months ago I believe when it was posted. You was mentioning a membership of more in depth tactics and such. Anything come about that?

  • @want2boutdoors274
    @want2boutdoors274 2 роки тому

    Sweet video Spencer.. i really enjoy the bait videos. What tripod where you usinhlg at the first spot? Didnt see it in your description.

  • @nathannance6942
    @nathannance6942 2 роки тому

    Idk why but your videos always make me hungry

  • @chrislour8938
    @chrislour8938 2 роки тому +1

    I like to catch some bluegill and eel cut it up on the bank and throw it out for blue cats. That’s not a bad time

  • @chrislindsey3997
    @chrislindsey3997 2 роки тому

    Love your vids man.. Recent amputee, blah blah poor me, but I look forward to your posts.. They help me work through the mundane BS.. Have always been an avid fisherman, and miss it in a huge way at this point.. I’ll get back on the horse I know, but people like you posting basic grunt and mud to make it happen, well, I appreciate it and your efforts! Keep catching em for us who cannot at the moment..

  • @billmitchell7731
    @billmitchell7731 2 роки тому

    Catching baits fun too . And I think sunfish are better eating than catfish. If big enough to mess with.

  • @donaldthomas6520
    @donaldthomas6520 2 роки тому +1

    I hope you catch a giant brother you got bait. Peace out from Ohio Don T ill be watching

  • @daveallover
    @daveallover 2 роки тому +1

    My gopro would have overheated after 15 minutes in that sun. Lol.

  • @mikeolson7188
    @mikeolson7188 2 роки тому

    I think the cubbies are in the STL this wknd, might have to watch some of the game.Been kinda busy lately and haven't watched much Baseball.

  • @dalehayslip5008
    @dalehayslip5008 2 роки тому +2

    I thought you was the leopard frog and bullhead for flat head.Luke is the leopard frog guy for flat head anyway great video

    • @RiverCertified
      @RiverCertified  2 роки тому

      I've never actually caught a flathead on a frog. Glad you enjoyed the video though!

  • @dennisfarley6574
    @dennisfarley6574 2 роки тому +1

    Catching fish like that can should never feel like work. Now let’s see them turn into Giant cats.

  • @stephenjohnson6841
    @stephenjohnson6841 2 роки тому +1

    Another great video Spencer. I'm curious though. Why you don't use soft plastics or flies to catch bait? Anyways thanks for sharing.

    • @RiverCertified
      @RiverCertified  2 роки тому

      Mainly a confidence thing. I want to be as quick and efficient as possible getting bait.

    • @stephenjohnson6841
      @stephenjohnson6841 2 роки тому

      @@RiverCertified Interesting. We always either used soft plastics or flies so we more efficient. Less time baiting. Also my father wasn't a worm fisherman. He thought that was to easy. Anyway I appreciate all your work. I even downloaded Spotify sup I could catch up on your podcasts. Super informative/hilarious!

  • @theswordoftheevening9865
    @theswordoftheevening9865 2 роки тому

    I still gave you a Like Spencer even though you seem to have a thing for my Green sunfish too. Make awesome Naturals for a 55gal. Things will topwater demolish those big black crickets and a lil frog once(not sure why I did that). If the were needed to catch Steelhead would I do it? Most likely not. But in that case they don't really ever see each other. I'd love to have you put me on a 50lb Flathead but you'd have to use shad or something. Savannah not Sahara btw. And Bluegill are Sunfish, kinda the poster boys for Centrarchidae with a Bass.

  • @tayloryohe1774
    @tayloryohe1774 2 роки тому

    Recently started watching your videos and i really enjoy them. I was wondering if you have any tips or tricks on getting rid of the bugs when night fishing? Regular bug spray just doesn't seem to do the trick. I try to keep my headlamp turned off as much as possible but they still have a way of finding me. They are incredibly thick here in Kansas