I mean, I imagine that the issues that El Toro Ryan brought up with Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit with its train design, how the wheel bogeys are really close together and how the trains are top-heavy, both of which contribute to the increasing vibration, probably would also apply here. Watch his Problematic Coasters vid on Rockit btw if you haven’t yet; it’s incredible.
"Freischütz" can be translated into "Freeshooter" or "Marksman". The term comes from an old german folk tale in wich a maksman or hunter is gifted with magical arrows or bullets (depending of the time period) by the devil, that won't miss any target he shoots at, but the last would be directed by the devil himself. The first version of the tale was traced back to the 15th century. The best known version is from 1810 by Johann August Apel, wich was later used by Carl Maria von Weber to write his opera "Der Freischütz". Honestly, that tale would make a stunning theming if done right.
Guess it's a good thing that I've started learning German on Duo Lingo. My original ambition was to make it to Oktoberfest one of these days, because spinning rides galore!!! If there's a heaven, it has every spinning ride imaginable. I get the feeling that Bayern Park is about to get an increase in patronage. Those of us who possess that morbid curiosity might be rare, but we're legion, and we just can't resist. "Let's just throw in a crap ton of positive G's!" I think I'm in love.
This ride looks so fun for some reason😂 this ride looks like one of Rip Ride Rockits last turns that’s way too intense for the entire ride! Wow, you literally said that in the video!
As someone who has not ridden too many uber intense rides (I've only been to Cedar Point, Kings Island (my home park), Holiday Word, Knotts Berry Farm, and California's great America, and soon to be Great adventure, and Kings dominion, and Six Flags Great America) I can't imagine how this roller coaster would feel like
Thank you for that review, I was really looking forward to your in-depth opinion of Freischütz. As I've stated previously in the awards-show, I'm in a love-hate-relationship with the coaster. I love it for what it is but after a few rides I'm simply exhausted by its intensity. It's a shame that it has gotten so rough and I'd probably absolutely adore Freischütz if it ran smoothly. Still, it's a memorable experience that I kind of want to get back to after a while. I can perfectly understand everyone who doesn't enjoy the ride. Personally, however, I'd rate it an 8/10 because of its relentless nature and the fact that it's probably one of the most intense coasters I've experienced - I grey out every time in the turn after the loop. Regarding maintenance, I recently read in an interview that just the maintenance parts for Freischütz are around €20,000 a year.
@gnutscha Say that to Coaster Studios who is like in his 20s or 30s and rides roller coasters every week and who's most ridden coaster out of over a thousand is Intimidator 305. I don't think the age will affect how much I enjoy intensity, spinning rides bring that a little bit but not intensity like in terms of positive Gs.
@@maxhagenauer24 oh i am not talking about how much you enjoy intensity, it's about how much you can take. I am in my 40s and i really feel that intense rides like Kärnan take a toll on me after a few rides, despite me really enjoying it.
@gnutscha Asking how much I enjoy intensity and how much I can handle are the same things. If I couldn't handle any more then I wouldn't enjoy it. All my points about Coaster Studios riding coasters still apply if you are talking about how much someone can take. They may take a toll on you while you are in your 40s but then if you enjoy them, the toll part wouldn't be the part you enjoy. You must enjoy it for some other reason. That's like saying a ride is so rough that you can't tollarate it but you love that it's rough.
The roughness is a train problem. Maurers x car cars are connected with a shaft and that shaft only allows for vertical movement on the front car, and horizontal movement on the back car. That’s why you get that awkward push and pull thing on these rides
On 172 credits, the one coaster that was too much for me was Lech Coaster. And boy, was it ever too much. I like my positive Gs, but I also learned that fighting to not lose consciousness is not really my idea of a good time. The other coaster that bordered on being too intense was another Vekoma, the Megablitz on the Wiener Prater.
@WiedmannOfficial I don't need to he careful of anything, I have ridden may intense rides and I never get old or sick of them, they don't ware on me. I want the most positive Gs I can get. So of it's one hell of a coaster then that's a good thing.
The shakiness is likely because of the narrow track gauge combined with a wheel base that is way too short. Absolutely a donkey design move to have a 3-row car, but put the front axle under the middle row rather than the front row. It makes the car act like a lever with the back axle acting like the fulcrum, so any shocks felt by the front axle get amplified in the front row, while the middle and rear rows are directly above the axles so they feel the full brunt. Putting the front axle so far back is fine for mouse coasters to give the illusion that the car is going to go off the track during the hairpin turns, but it doesn't make sense for any other type of roller coaster.
last time i remember a coaster being to intense i'd have to say was when I rode hulk at isle of adventure in feb 2020. it may have been because I was just getting over one of the worst flu's I've ever had in my life, but the launch felt way more powerful than it ever was, and nearly grayed out before the end of it. most recently I'd say wild eagle at Dollywood. it was my 1st wing coaster ever, and oh mylanta that drop felt so much more intense than any other B&M coaster I've done before. even after doing it 2 more times that day it still remained beyond intense. if I thought that was bad I can't imagine how i'll handle gate keeper.
Yeah. I believe Venus GP was actually the last ever coaster designed by Schwarzkopf so theres that too. Like Venus GP was the peak of Schwarzkopf's design capability in the 90's, Their own manufacturing had gone bankrupt but they still made rides with Zierer and later Maurer as a subcontractor. The other Maurer x Schwarzkopf hybrid being built for a park in Japan before going to Wonder Island in Russia.
I live near the Bayern Park and road it several times. But only once a day. Iam glad that even an experienced coaster rider like you thinks its intense 😅
rode this thing a few years back, during the week and in the waning days of corona restrictions so the park was pretty empty and it was a walkon. Was the year their huge freefall tower opened. Anyways, after 3 back to back rides i had a pounding headache for a good hour and a half. Fun layout but really too rough to be fully enjoyable imo.
Another ride that I'd consider too much that would be great as a review here is Riddler's Revenge. I think sitting down it'd be an elite B&M looper, but making you stand up pushes it into the territory of "they went too far"
I love it so much! I am very happy that it is at my 2nd home park. Great Coaster I dont think it is too much and i think it is somewhat smooth XD and i love the restraints
Rode it in early October last year and did not find it very intense, but it might’ve been the cold. I didn’t find it very rough at all and enjoyed it though
When we were on a trip in september 2020 we came across Bayern Park (which we ended up hating but that’s another story). Freischütz was a one and done. It was really uncomfortable and tossed you in all possible directions leaving you wondering what the hell just happened in those 40 seconds.
As I know/what I had heard, they have reduced the number of cycles from two to one, because they got in trouble with the LSMs; two starts in 40 sec., + breaks after just 80 sec., the LSMs overheated. So they had to reduce the cycles to only one. If true or perhaps two cycles will be far too much for too many or both together, who knows. I plan to visit this year Bayern Park the first time and yes, I hope, Freischütz will not be down on this day.
This was actually my first "big" rollercoaster. Back then I loved it but I rode it again in 2021 i think and it was brutally rough and as you said way too intense. And that combination is not great lol. Still rode it like 6 or 7 times that day but I had a bad headache afterwards. I also don't really know if i hate it or love it haha
Glad I’m not the only one who thought it was “too much”, rode it last summer and I was nót expecting it to be thát rough. Yeez I had a headache after my ride, and I like rough coasters 😂 And indeed, combining this with the intense speed, it doesn’t give the best rides 😅 By maintenance I’ve spoke to a employee and he told me it costs around €400 to launch the train EACH TIME, so I can imagine it’s quite an expensive ride to maintain and operate 😅
I massively disagree, people may hate on X-car trains but skyrocket trains are the absolute worst unless you're really narrow shouldered and have short and thin legs. They're really hard to get into and the trains are really really cramped.
I love Rip Ride Rocket and this looks very fun to me 😎 I am waiting for people to ride Falcons Fury. I will be shocked if people don’t black out or worse on it. It may be the end of Intamin IMO
To be honest i thought it was ok except for it bruising me balls. And yes its really intens and a bit rough. Except for the break wich bruised the gonands it was really very much fun. Then again I305 is my second favorite coaster so i sort of like this thing. I would agree that its a bit much since i do like the family jewels. And i did the 2 laps speciale its actuale better then the one lap since the really painfull part is the last break. But i agree with you this one shouldn't be in this park a nice vekoma would be much better.
I am a roller coaster noob and this was my first real rollercoaster in about 10 years. I felt it was fun, but not really intense and it was only rough in the front but I marathoned it in the back. If this is so intense like you said, then will all these american coasters, that I dream about riding sometime in the future, be really boring to me?
I actually haven't done that one yet! We drove past the park when we were in Rome but didn't go because they weren't open. Will have to go back for that one.
That “treble clef” element is one of my least favorite elements on any coaster so a ride full of that sounds awful. That said I would ride it once haha
Correction: so long as it does not induce pain or internal bleeding, there is no such thing as "too intense". The word we like to use is "challenging".
I've only been on one Rollercoaster that I wanted it to finish quickly..Which was Mine Blower @ Fun Spot Kissime..I thought I was gonna loose a tooth..It was to bumby..I honestly hated it. Which I don't say that about Rollercoasters..Maybe this one would be a bad one for me too.
Hey Taylor I have a question, why did you stop pronouncing Bayern as "bi-urn" and start pronouncing it as "bay-urn". I thought the former is the correct pronunciation, but since you went to Germany, correct me if I'm wrong.
I love your videos but I think you could let us appreciate each take a little longer before changing the shot! Maybe 2 or 3 seconds more of each take would make your videos even better!
@ the spinning coasters are the exceptions haha. I do like Laff Track and Spider. The restraints are a little uncomfy though. I’m only 5’10 and 170 pounds and those bars kinda come down in an uncomfortable way.
The on ride footage is probably the only time I’ve ever seen Taylor look very close to being physically ill on a coaster
I mean, I imagine that the issues that El Toro Ryan brought up with Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit with its train design, how the wheel bogeys are really close together and how the trains are top-heavy, both of which contribute to the increasing vibration, probably would also apply here. Watch his Problematic Coasters vid on Rockit btw if you haven’t yet; it’s incredible.
“Freischütz 1 looks too intense for me”
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"Freischütz" can be translated into "Freeshooter" or "Marksman".
The term comes from an old german folk tale in wich a maksman or hunter is gifted with magical arrows or bullets (depending of the time period) by the devil, that won't miss any target he shoots at, but the last would be directed by the devil himself.
The first version of the tale was traced back to the 15th century.
The best known version is from 1810 by Johann August Apel, wich was later used by Carl Maria von Weber to write his opera "Der Freischütz".
Honestly, that tale would make a stunning theming if done right.
There is also a pretty well know opera called "Der Freischütz" by Carl Maria von Weber based on that tale.
@@verybighomer I mentioned that, if you did not read it
I’m glad somebody said it! It’s a pretty famous opera and you’re so right: the story would make for great theming.
Yeah. And the station and launch is seemingly designed to be the barrel of a gun so that definitely fits.
@@drdewott9154the train is the bullet guided by the devil
Guess it's a good thing that I've started learning German on Duo Lingo. My original ambition was to make it to Oktoberfest one of these days, because spinning rides galore!!! If there's a heaven, it has every spinning ride imaginable.
I get the feeling that Bayern Park is about to get an increase in patronage. Those of us who possess that morbid curiosity might be rare, but we're legion, and we just can't resist.
"Let's just throw in a crap ton of positive G's!"
I think I'm in love.
This ride looks so fun for some reason😂 this ride looks like one of Rip Ride Rockits last turns that’s way too intense for the entire ride! Wow, you literally said that in the video!
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As someone who has not ridden too many uber intense rides (I've only been to Cedar Point, Kings Island (my home park), Holiday Word, Knotts Berry Farm, and California's great America, and soon to be Great adventure, and Kings dominion, and Six Flags Great America) I can't imagine how this roller coaster would feel like
Thank you for that review, I was really looking forward to your in-depth opinion of Freischütz. As I've stated previously in the awards-show, I'm in a love-hate-relationship with the coaster. I love it for what it is but after a few rides I'm simply exhausted by its intensity. It's a shame that it has gotten so rough and I'd probably absolutely adore Freischütz if it ran smoothly. Still, it's a memorable experience that I kind of want to get back to after a while. I can perfectly understand everyone who doesn't enjoy the ride. Personally, however, I'd rate it an 8/10 because of its relentless nature and the fact that it's probably one of the most intense coasters I've experienced - I grey out every time in the turn after the loop.
Regarding maintenance, I recently read in an interview that just the maintenance parts for Freischütz are around €20,000 a year.
Gotta say that face of shock is gold 😂
It makes sense why this became the "Extended Coaster" model in RCT3.
Only the cars, really. The track reads B&M to me.
@gemmachaos You're 100% right. I think the x-car model also appeared on the RCT3 "Drifting Coaster."
I don't think rides like this can ever be "too much" as in too intense, not for me, I love that and this compact layout looks great.
Wait until you get older 😂
@gnutscha Say that to Coaster Studios who is like in his 20s or 30s and rides roller coasters every week and who's most ridden coaster out of over a thousand is Intimidator 305. I don't think the age will affect how much I enjoy intensity, spinning rides bring that a little bit but not intensity like in terms of positive Gs.
@@maxhagenauer24 oh i am not talking about how much you enjoy intensity, it's about how much you can take. I am in my 40s and i really feel that intense rides like Kärnan take a toll on me after a few rides, despite me really enjoying it.
@gnutscha Asking how much I enjoy intensity and how much I can handle are the same things. If I couldn't handle any more then I wouldn't enjoy it. All my points about Coaster Studios riding coasters still apply if you are talking about how much someone can take. They may take a toll on you while you are in your 40s but then if you enjoy them, the toll part wouldn't be the part you enjoy. You must enjoy it for some other reason. That's like saying a ride is so rough that you can't tollarate it but you love that it's rough.
The roughness is a train problem. Maurers x car cars are connected with a shaft and that shaft only allows for vertical movement on the front car, and horizontal movement on the back car. That’s why you get that awkward push and pull thing on these rides
Intamin, Gerstlauer, and Vekoma should take this layout and refine it to make it less intense. It looks to have a great compact layout.
Looks awesome. I appreciate your honest take.
I prefer positive g’s to airtime, so this looks like heaven to me
The on ride video here is telling, as is the POV on CoasterForce, looks brutal. I think the camera greyed out…
On 172 credits, the one coaster that was too much for me was Lech Coaster. And boy, was it ever too much. I like my positive Gs, but I also learned that fighting to not lose consciousness is not really my idea of a good time. The other coaster that bordered on being too intense was another Vekoma, the Megablitz on the Wiener Prater.
On a really hot day when you’re not hydrated, then certain vecoma boomerangs in the back row if they’re shaky can be a little too much for me
Rule number one: never ride if you're dehydrated.
4.4 Gs is awesome, I really want to experience this to see what it's like because I am a positive G person.
Be careful what you wish for :D
That thing is a hell of a coaster :D
@WiedmannOfficial I don't need to he careful of anything, I have ridden may intense rides and I never get old or sick of them, they don't ware on me. I want the most positive Gs I can get. So of it's one hell of a coaster then that's a good thing.
@@maxhagenauer24 ok ok. Go for it!!
@@WiedmannOfficial Yessir! I will. More Gs are always better. It can never be too intense.
The shakiness is likely because of the narrow track gauge combined with a wheel base that is way too short. Absolutely a donkey design move to have a 3-row car, but put the front axle under the middle row rather than the front row. It makes the car act like a lever with the back axle acting like the fulcrum, so any shocks felt by the front axle get amplified in the front row, while the middle and rear rows are directly above the axles so they feel the full brunt.
Putting the front axle so far back is fine for mouse coasters to give the illusion that the car is going to go off the track during the hairpin turns, but it doesn't make sense for any other type of roller coaster.
Row 2 right seat was the magic seat
last time i remember a coaster being to intense i'd have to say was when I rode hulk at isle of adventure in feb 2020. it may have been because I was just getting over one of the worst flu's I've ever had in my life, but the launch felt way more powerful than it ever was, and nearly grayed out before the end of it. most recently I'd say wild eagle at Dollywood. it was my 1st wing coaster ever, and oh mylanta that drop felt so much more intense than any other B&M coaster I've done before. even after doing it 2 more times that day it still remained beyond intense. if I thought that was bad I can't imagine how i'll handle gate keeper.
There’s a similar super-intense turn on Shock at Magicland in Italy. Also the entirety of Venus GP, which was Maurer’s first coaster 😂
Yeah. I believe Venus GP was actually the last ever coaster designed by Schwarzkopf so theres that too. Like Venus GP was the peak of Schwarzkopf's design capability in the 90's, Their own manufacturing had gone bankrupt but they still made rides with Zierer and later Maurer as a subcontractor. The other Maurer x Schwarzkopf hybrid being built for a park in Japan before going to Wonder Island in Russia.
Would cobra at connyland also fall into the "too much" category?
this looks perfect to me! Wish it was closer!
I live near the Bayern Park and road it several times. But only once a day. Iam glad that even an experienced coaster rider like you thinks its intense 😅
I saw the on-ride reaction of this!
But I did as well.
rode this thing a few years back, during the week and in the waning days of corona restrictions so the park was pretty empty and it was a walkon. Was the year their huge freefall tower opened. Anyways, after 3 back to back rides i had a pounding headache for a good hour and a half. Fun layout but really too rough to be fully enjoyable imo.
Another ride that I'd consider too much that would be great as a review here is Riddler's Revenge. I think sitting down it'd be an elite B&M looper, but making you stand up pushes it into the territory of "they went too far"
"The most intense coaster you've never heard of"
I watched your pov on your channel a few months prior lol
alright so we can exclusively thank Coaster Studios for raising awareness for this ride, got it, lol
@@CoasterStudios Lol.
PLEASE can you add this whole enterance and map to the Frontier Workshop? I BEG YOU!
I love it so much! I am very happy that it is at my 2nd home park. Great Coaster
I dont think it is too much and i think it is somewhat smooth XD
and i love the restraints
Rode it in early October last year and did not find it very intense, but it might’ve been the cold.
I didn’t find it very rough at all and enjoyed it though
This is my kind of ride
When we were on a trip in september 2020 we came across Bayern Park (which we ended up hating but that’s another story). Freischütz was a one and done. It was really uncomfortable and tossed you in all possible directions leaving you wondering what the hell just happened in those 40 seconds.
It was almost my first big rollercoaster.
Very intense
You know Taylor's ridden so many rollercoasters to the point where he finds one more crazy than I305.
As I know/what I had heard, they have reduced the number of cycles from two to one, because they got in trouble with the LSMs; two starts in 40 sec., + breaks after just 80 sec., the LSMs overheated. So they had to reduce the cycles to only one.
If true or perhaps two cycles will be far too much for too many or both together, who knows.
I plan to visit this year Bayern Park the first time and yes, I hope, Freischütz will not be down on this day.
That ride looks very intense, but fast.
I thought this was a premier launch coaster!😂
I forgot Maurer makes these.
I haven't been on Shock, but maybe low key the best of the Maurer X-cars might be Formule X? That was the original, I think.
This was actually my first "big" rollercoaster. Back then I loved it but I rode it again in 2021 i think and it was brutally rough and as you said way too intense. And that combination is not great lol. Still rode it like 6 or 7 times that day but I had a bad headache afterwards. I also don't really know if i hate it or love it haha
Glad I’m not the only one who thought it was “too much”, rode it last summer and I was nót expecting it to be thát rough. Yeez I had a headache after my ride, and I like rough coasters 😂 And indeed, combining this with the intense speed, it doesn’t give the best rides 😅 By maintenance I’ve spoke to a employee and he told me it costs around €400 to launch the train EACH TIME, so I can imagine it’s quite an expensive ride to maintain and operate 😅
I feel like Premier Sky Rocket trains would actually improve these Maurer X-Car coasters.
weren't the cars/restraints supposed to be the huge innovation and selling point of the X-Car coasters when they first came out?
I massively disagree, people may hate on X-car trains but skyrocket trains are the absolute worst unless you're really narrow shouldered and have short and thin legs. They're really hard to get into and the trains are really really cramped.
@shroomyesc Maybe but they track a LOT better. Also X car restraints crush my stomach I can barely breath afterwards
This layout but its a Vekoma or Intamin invert 👀
I've always wanted to experience a grey out but never happened so far. I havent ridden I305 yet though.
I love Rip Ride Rocket and this looks very fun to me 😎 I am waiting for people to ride Falcons Fury. I will be shocked if people don’t black out or worse on it. It may be the end of Intamin IMO
Shock looks so cartoonish to me
To be honest i thought it was ok except for it bruising me balls. And yes its really intens and a bit rough. Except for the break wich bruised the gonands it was really very much fun. Then again I305 is my second favorite coaster so i sort of like this thing. I would agree that its a bit much since i do like the family jewels. And i did the 2 laps speciale its actuale better then the one lap since the really painfull part is the last break. But i agree with you this one shouldn't be in this park a nice vekoma would be much better.
I am a roller coaster noob and this was my first real rollercoaster in about 10 years. I felt it was fun, but not really intense and it was only rough in the front but I marathoned it in the back. If this is so intense like you said, then will all these american coasters, that I dream about riding sometime in the future, be really boring to me?
Probably.
you guys looked pretty beat up at the end of that ride
Green Lantern at SFMM was the one that was too intense for me
How does this compare to Shock at magicland?
I actually haven't done that one yet! We drove past the park when we were in Rome but didn't go because they weren't open. Will have to go back for that one.
I Love this Ride
Is it worse than Goudurix?
I could only do three times on ArieForce One. That quad down station run is too much
That “treble clef” element is one of my least favorite elements on any coaster so a ride full of that sounds awful. That said I would ride it once haha
The helix and cutback on Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket is the only fun part
If they ever had someone like Intamin redesign the trains on this thing? I bet it would run two laps again....
There's no such thing as "too intense" for a true coaster lover
Correction: so long as it does not induce pain or internal bleeding, there is no such thing as "too intense". The word we like to use is "challenging".
when it launches you too times it was smoother. ;) but i only rode it like 3 weeks when it opend in 2011 or so :)
I don't know that I'd call this ride intense, but Nighthawk at Carowinds (also closing this year) has never felt fun to ride for me. Much too shakey.
I've only been on one Rollercoaster that I wanted it to finish quickly..Which was Mine Blower @ Fun Spot Kissime..I thought I was gonna loose a tooth..It was to bumby..I honestly hated it. Which I don't say that about Rollercoasters..Maybe this one would be a bad one for me too.
to be fair least its not too long bc if it was any longer i think it would close for something better
Hey Taylor I have a question, why did you stop pronouncing Bayern as "bi-urn" and start pronouncing it as "bay-urn". I thought the former is the correct pronunciation, but since you went to Germany, correct me if I'm wrong.
I love your videos but I think you could let us appreciate each take a little longer before changing the shot! Maybe 2 or 3 seconds more of each take would make your videos even better!
wildcats revenge was too much for me after 6 rides, but i can do skyrush all day, i don’t get it 😂😂😂
Togo resurrected and they are making stand up trains for this in 2026...lol
I305 fans after watching this:
1st comment yippee
Taiga is the best
Maurer coasters belong on cruise ships and absolutely nowhere else.
Well the maurer spinners are fun coasters. Look at phantasialand, they have the winjas.
@ the spinning coasters are the exceptions haha. I do like Laff Track and Spider. The restraints are a little uncomfy though. I’m only 5’10 and 170 pounds and those bars kinda come down in an uncomfortable way.
For me it was Zeus, facing backwards at parc asterix. I needed a 2 hour break after lol
Damn I’m early
I hate HRRR. This looks like that on roids. Would not enjoy it!