Can you beat Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire with the LEAST BATTLES possible?

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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2022
  • It's been a long time since we did a Minimum Battles Challenge. Surely this one will also be extremely consistent and not at all a super difficult challenge that no one should attempt.... right?
    Edited by: SimplyAJ ( / simplyaj )
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  • @SimplyAJ
    @SimplyAJ 2 роки тому +1100

    The fact that you had basically JUST ENOUGH EXP to learn Destiny Bond was incredible.

    • @uygarcelik7
      @uygarcelik7 2 роки тому +35

      @@raikaria3090 he could potentially have used 2 rare candies for wynaut no?

    • @benikujaku4567
      @benikujaku4567 2 роки тому +19

      The easiest way would just be to lead with Wynaut then switch to swampert. Wynaut would gain XP from both XPshare and actually participating‚ and it would have been enough

    • @HeWhoHungers
      @HeWhoHungers 2 роки тому +4

      All I did was imagine Wynaut would only learn those four moves AFTER evolving into Wobuffet instead of before. Would've been no way to reach it for Glacia at that point.

    • @danielcarrilho5217
      @danielcarrilho5217 2 роки тому +7

      @@uygarcelik7 but then Swampert would be weaker for the champ

    • @trueMCGRaven
      @trueMCGRaven 2 роки тому +6

      @@benikujaku4567 too risky since that includes Swampert taking a hit.

  • @frankieinjapan
    @frankieinjapan 2 роки тому +480

    I love the contrast between solo runs and minimum battles. Solos are the absolute most consistent strategy with as little luck as possible, and minimum battles is straight up "8 Crits in a row fucking please" 🤣

  • @Thetenthdoctor24
    @Thetenthdoctor24 2 роки тому +229

    Watching Jrose allow a Pokémon to evolve was such a rush

    • @bigchunk1
      @bigchunk1 6 місяців тому +1

      Oh, i'm not the only one.

  • @TruBluLew23
    @TruBluLew23 2 роки тому +704

    Not sure if anyone mentioned it but...how coincidental is it that Wynaut got experience during Tate and Liza? Without it, it may not have hit 15 with the Glacia experience. So clutch!

    • @jacobellis2313
      @jacobellis2313 2 роки тому +32

      Had more then enough rare candies to make up for it.

    • @petelee2477
      @petelee2477 2 роки тому +106

      It was destiny

    • @TruBluLew23
      @TruBluLew23 2 роки тому +17

      @@jacobellis2313 that's why I said it may not. I didn't watch the stream so I wasn't sure if he had the candies or not. Good to know tho, thanks Jacob!

    • @cassiolins1203
      @cassiolins1203 2 роки тому +28

      I mean... Wy not?

    • @barrycopa9179
      @barrycopa9179 2 роки тому +4

      This is what makes these vids unique doesn't it? 😄

  • @Jjeinntae
    @Jjeinntae 2 роки тому +156

    I love how Norman is just in disbelief at losing to his daughter, like, it just feels particularly fitting for this challenge.

    • @TheForgottenTainted
      @TheForgottenTainted Рік тому +28

      He’s like “you have barely fought anyone and are weak- HOW DID YOU BEAT ME?!”

    • @ApolloSniperman
      @ApolloSniperman Рік тому +19

      “Skill issue” 🤷‍♂️

  • @olivergro7105
    @olivergro7105 2 роки тому +107

    "we need to get it to nosepass with full HP because otherwise nosepass one shots as it is so strong" is a sentence I thought I'd never hear

    • @erizoh
      @erizoh Рік тому +1

      I recommend trying a monotype hardcore nuzlocke. Besides it being pretty fun to strategize through all the obstacles, that Nosepass has been the bane of my existence for both ground (Nincada) and dark (Poochyena)

    • @petelee2477
      @petelee2477 Рік тому

      For me those level one fear sets are what scares me the most about nosepass though gen 5 sturdy mechanics is what makes it possible.
      Have a level one sturdy nosepass with the sturdy ability and the move pain split, protect, toxic, and either stealth rock or magic coat

    • @erizoh
      @erizoh Рік тому

      @@petelee2477 It's not really super optimal although it can work, it's usually more effective to run Endeavor + Shell Bell under Sandstorm

  • @emeraldfinder5
    @emeraldfinder5 2 роки тому +1328

    All of Jrose11’s videos feel genuine in a way that you rarely see on youtube anymore. You can tell he’s having fun making them, and that makes them really fun to watch

    • @xKamiiii
      @xKamiiii 2 роки тому +15

      word

    • @zerokid2007
      @zerokid2007 2 роки тому +61

      Sadly not entirely true. He's expressed frustration and boredom with the solo challenges on Twitch, but they bring in the views. I think the new editor is helping out a lot with that though.

    • @aureate
      @aureate 2 роки тому +41

      @@zerokid2007 That's true, but when it comes to his UA-cam narration, it's an entertaining watch.

    • @SEMIA123
      @SEMIA123 2 роки тому +47

      @@zerokid2007 But that proves the point, doesn't it? If this was fake enthusiasm, he'd never have expressed those feelings and that boredom/frustration is probably what lead to this video and hopefully will help motivate him in coming up with new and unique ideas in the future. Its an entirely expected, normal and genuine reaction to playing the same game over and over again.

    • @Deadbymidnight97
      @Deadbymidnight97 2 роки тому +19

      I agree his commentary feels genuine and not forced enthusiasm that you see with I a lot of people, really refreshing

  • @thohillesland
    @thohillesland 2 роки тому +84

    There is actually a method you could have used to keep both ice beam and earthquake for the elite four. One of the mandatory trainers in the victory road has a sandslash with Poison Sting, and Wally has a Roselia with toxic.
    So if you:
    - get at least one Pokemon poisoned in victory road.
    - enter into the Pokemon league center
    - go all the way back to the move deleter and delete waterfall
    - put all your Pokemon into the box, besides the poisoned one
    - run around untill it faints and you white out to the Pokemon league
    - SUCCESS you can now teach swampert ice beam without getting rid of earthquake before the elite four!

    • @Red-yt2dk
      @Red-yt2dk Рік тому +4

      Why is poison required for this?
      Surely you can just faint to the league in any way

    • @thohillesland
      @thohillesland Рік тому +37

      @@Red-yt2dk 1. fainting to a trainer battle would count as an extra battle which is something we don't want
      2. The reason why we would want to do this is because you need 4 HMs to get trough victory road in gen 3. Surf, Rock Smash, Waterfall and Strength. Rock Smash you are able to put on Anorith, this means that Swampert needs to carry Surf, Waterfall and Strength Just to be able to get trough victory road. This leaves only 1 open move slot against the Elite Four, but both earthquake and ice beam are moves that would be really nice to have against the elite four. We also don't have a pokemon with fly or teleport, so there isn't really any way to easily to get to the move deleter and get rid of these HMs. So the only way for us to get back to the pokemon league after deleting these HMs is to White Out with the pokemon league as our visited Pokemon Center. As said in point 1. we can't really faint in a battle, since this is a minimum battles run. So the only way to White Out without being in a battle is to have your last pokemon faint from poison.

    • @Red-yt2dk
      @Red-yt2dk Рік тому +15

      @@thohillesland Somehow I forgot that this was minimum battles.
      I don't know how I did that, the inner machinations of my mind are an enigma.

    • @dynastystar5515
      @dynastystar5515 8 місяців тому

      I feel like jrose would be opposed to that amount of shenanigans in a run of his

    • @theshankpain2228
      @theshankpain2228 4 місяці тому

      @@dynastystar5515no he wouldn’t lol in his kanto solo runs when his Pokémon is poisoned and close to fainting, he will save and reset every 3 steps to avoid fainting, just to avoid having to return from the pokecenter .

  • @maxwelllittle5291
    @maxwelllittle5291 2 роки тому +170

    In universe explanation: Jrose was going to use the Master Ball on Kyogre, but it was eaten by Wallace's Wishcash.

  • @jbyrne4531
    @jbyrne4531 2 роки тому +296

    Great video man! Also, just something funny you said was that Brawly "maybe went to the Bruno school of fighting gyms", which in the canon of Pokémon is actually true - Brawly trained under Bruno of the E4, and Chuck from the Cianwood Gym in Johto haha!

    • @matissimoj1190
      @matissimoj1190 2 роки тому +19

      Students exchange program

    • @jordanthejq12
      @jordanthejq12 2 роки тому +12

      @@raikaria3090 Man, Brawly would LOVE Poliwrath.

  • @RossSpeirs
    @RossSpeirs 2 роки тому +80

    Man, just imagine if there had been a mandatory battle where you catch zigzagoon and this run changes entirely.

    • @ZorotheGallade
      @ZorotheGallade Рік тому +6

      Now I'm wondering how a minimum battle, minimum exploration (don't gain exp from Pokémon breaking rocks/harvesting berries) run of Legends Arceus would be.
      I think there aren't any Trainer battles besides a couple with Volo, your rival, and perhaps the brigands, and all the Noble Pokémon can be fought with Balms alone.

  • @blue_manatee3895
    @blue_manatee3895 2 роки тому +340

    This was such a fun challenge to watch live, even with pokéchat
    Side note: Waterfall doesn't actually flinch opponents until gen 4. It really is pretty much just a worse Surf for the first three gens until the physical/special split

    • @mskain4896
      @mskain4896 2 роки тому +1

      2nd and 3rd. Waterfall isn't even in 1st Gen.

    • @landshark3509
      @landshark3509 2 роки тому +83

      @@mskain4896 Waterfall is in gen I. It's the signature move of the Goldeen line

    • @mskain4896
      @mskain4896 2 роки тому +50

      @@landshark3509 Huh. I stand corrected. Shows how much attention I paid to the Goldeen line in Gen 1

    • @dynastystar5515
      @dynastystar5515 2 роки тому

      you mean for gen 2 and 3? Waterfall as I recall doesn't exist in gen 1.

    • @psynque
      @psynque 2 роки тому +31

      @@dynastystar5515 you recall wrong.

  • @wobbles3217
    @wobbles3217 2 роки тому +378

    Honestly doing this in platinum might be interesting. Unlimited money and fossils from the underground. Also cranidos+vaporeon would cover your HMs so you could use Infernape instead of piplup.

    • @xEmpress95
      @xEmpress95 2 роки тому +43

      Question then becomes whether you can get to level 14 before Roark for neutral rock damage and super effective priority one mach punch. I also think it would be doable in X & Y as you get the Kanto starters, Lapras and Lucario as well as Tyrantrum iirc and you'd have the constant advantage of Mega Evolution from gym 5 to gym 8. Also in ORAS you'd get Latios/Latias. B2W2 feel like they'd be impossible. But maybe there's some strategy in BW with the elemental monkies and fossil pokes could be doable. Plus at that point EXP becomes freely available to your whole party, not just your participating pokemon. SM and USUM also have unlimited fossils (theoreitcally, technically its tied to your money so there'd be some resource management and choices there) as well as an Eevee and USUM has totem pokemon. And in general gamse got easier from XY onward so I do think there's a way to do minimum battles in Platinum, BW, XY, SM/USUM and then probably Sword and Shield with all the DLC in mind.

    • @endeav0r_49
      @endeav0r_49 2 роки тому +10

      @@CyberchaoX while all three can be good vs Roark, chimchar is only good if you can get a monferno before battling it, and considering that most miners are skippable, all the junior trainers in the gym are skippable, i don't see it leveling up to 14 before the gym. Chimchar might be impossible.

    • @dysr
      @dysr 2 роки тому +3

      @@xEmpress95 Gen 5 and 7+ all have the advantage of a scaling experience system as well, so being too underlevelled isn't as big of a problem as the other games.

    • @marx252
      @marx252 2 роки тому +15

      @@CyberchaoX Small correction, but in Platinum you get a Togepi egg instead of Happiny. And Togekiss could be really useful thanks to easy evolution, Serene Grace, Extreme Speed, and access to fly. Not enough to replace Infernape/Empoleon, but its a flier who provides some utility.
      Also there is a gift Porygon in Veilstone. Not great stat-wise, but access to TMs like Thunderwave and Ice Beam could prove invaluable at certain points.

    • @slashb7836
      @slashb7836 2 роки тому +5

      @@xEmpress95 the SwSh DLCs require battles to get in, unfortunately. The slowpoke, Avery/Klara, Peony. So getting the gift Pokemon from things like the diglett dude would be out.

  • @MyShadow19
    @MyShadow19 2 роки тому +38

    This should be part of the "impossible challenges" series. The proof: he saves between elite four.

  • @chaosryans
    @chaosryans 2 роки тому +90

    This reminds me of "groundhog day" where he does all the rediculously impossible things in one day after trial and error over and over again.

  • @meganbarhorst5272
    @meganbarhorst5272 2 роки тому +180

    Man, this one is BRUTAL. Even the hard start of Yellow doesn't come close. There are so few mandatory trainers between the most difficult battles in this game, so you're always horrendously underleveled.

    • @IamGrimalkin
      @IamGrimalkin 2 роки тому +7

      Yellow had an extra battle though so it's not a fair comparison.
      If he could have one more battle to catch an extra pokemon like in yellow this would have been way easier.
      Without the extra battle, yellow is impossible.

    • @meganbarhorst5272
      @meganbarhorst5272 2 роки тому +11

      @@IamGrimalkin You're right that Yellow is technically impossible without a capture, but I'd still say this one is the harder game due to the lack of gift Pokémon and tiny amount of mandatory trainers. Once JRose got past Brock, there was plenty of mandatory EXP to keep one Pokémon competitive, and that would've been just as true with Pikachu as with Pidgeotto and gotten you through to getting a better gift Pokémon from the Game Corner. Even if JRose had given up on Mudkip getting past Roxan and allowed a capture, whatever he got would still have to contend with being horrendously underleveled.

    • @farnan92
      @farnan92 2 роки тому +2

      The most difficult battle is NOT Roxanne, but Rival II. The only reason Rival II is even possible is because of Mud-Slap...
      Also, Rival II is the battle that made Minimum battles in Crystal beat impossible. There's two alternatives:
      -Use Cyndaquil as your starter (Falkner is awful)
      -Spam MUD-Slap and hope It hits only once (and has a 25% CH rate)
      -Starting counting steps...

    • @IamGrimalkin
      @IamGrimalkin 2 роки тому

      @@farnan92
      I was assuming the hardest was the elite four (hence the extra capture that would let you get Kyogre or allow you to offload HMs).
      I'd still say an extra battle would still have made it much easier if rival II was the bottleneck though.
      I'd guess your best bet would be to catch a second Pokémon with an accuracy-lowering move, so you can lower Grovyle's accuracy before Marshtomp comes out. If not that, an extra level from another trainer battle would have helped.
      But yeah, probably this would still be harder than yellow even with the extra battle. I'd have to see it to know though.

    • @MK_ULTRA420
      @MK_ULTRA420 2 роки тому

      ​@@farnan92 Whitney, Clair and Lance make sure that a Minimum battles in Crystal Run is only possible by picking Totodile. Rival II is still only possible to beat because of Mud-Slap. Catching Raikou will definitely improve your chances of beating the Elite 4 if you find it after Prof. Elm gives you the Master Ball. After the E4 the rest of the game is just grinding Feraligatr to take on Red.

  • @CrazyLeviathan62
    @CrazyLeviathan62 2 роки тому +245

    5:01 In fact, on Ruby/Sapphire, you need to talk to the twins to trigger the battle when you have 2 pokemon.
    They only come to you on Emerald.

    • @Kurumisama
      @Kurumisama 2 роки тому +9

      also on emerald iirc if you only have one and talk to one of them you fight in a solo battle

    • @Mar_Marine
      @Mar_Marine 2 роки тому +17

      @@Kurumisama I have only ever played Emerald, and they have never solo battled me.

    • @Sub-rj2xb
      @Sub-rj2xb 2 роки тому +22

      @@Kurumisama they do not solo battle, they say they won’t fight someone with only one pokemon (iirc)

    • @Drumpro31
      @Drumpro31 2 роки тому +10

      @@Mar_Marine yea idk why he said that and people are randomly agreeing lmao

    • @anobodyperson6468
      @anobodyperson6468 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, that's what I thought bc as someone who has really only played Ruby I was like "but I've always had to talk to them??"

  • @Ignacio_Moral
    @Ignacio_Moral 2 роки тому +60

    From one of the highest count for minimum battles to probably the lowest minimum battles count. This was truly a journey. This has inspired me to try minimum battles for pokemon white, which luckily only has ONE instance of hm usage (the tree you need to cut in the dreamyard). Thank you Jrose for always bringing fun content!
    EDIT: No, you don't get the monkey without at least one battle. It has to be a Snivy or an Oshawott.

    • @Ignacio_Moral
      @Ignacio_Moral 2 роки тому +11

      New info that i didn't know. You need to have at least ONE optional battle. Be it catching a pokemon, or beating the trainer in dreamyard that stops you from getting a monkey. This is because the two young girls in route 3 don't let you pass through route 3 UNLESS YOU HAVE TWO POKEMON. So maybe you can use Tepig (unless you catch a pokemon, since the trainer that stops you from the elemental monkey has three pokemon). As for now though, 13 minimum battles between the beginning of the game and this roadblock, including the optional battle.

    • @heartsy2838
      @heartsy2838 2 роки тому

      @@weavilelover play white. Trust me

    • @Ignacio_Moral
      @Ignacio_Moral Рік тому +4

      Finally completed it, after some breaks. It's pretty much exactly 100 battles. Might be 101, since I might've misclicked once, but it's 100 or 101. Beautiful. Also, game's somewhat easy until the elite four. Shauntal was the trickiest.

    • @Pyxis10
      @Pyxis10 Рік тому

      ​@@Ignacio_Moral Wow, not sure I'd have the pateince to do that myself. Well done.

    • @SonicEndouRed
      @SonicEndouRed 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Ignacio_Moralwould youbcare to give a detailed comment about run? I'm really interested what were the milestones

  • @garrettjohnstone7229
    @garrettjohnstone7229 2 роки тому +58

    Great run! 57:41 you said you lost to Phoebe because you didnt get a PPUp, you had one but sold it before you started the E4. Probably a misclick on 4x speed 😋 great video can't wait for more

  • @gelato101
    @gelato101 2 роки тому +30

    15:49 There are a couple npcs between Ruby, Sapphire, FireRed, and LeafGreen that do confirm that Brawly trained under Bruno

  • @Jnadeau
    @Jnadeau 2 роки тому +162

    During the fight against Wallace Milotic, the chance to be frozen were actually 0% since you can't get frozen in the sunlight. It was one of the other thing sunny day helped with
    Edit: changed the gym leader name. Sorry about the mistake, haven't played a gen 3 game in over 3 year. Sorry about that one, I was stupid not double checking that

    • @BlazingKhioneus
      @BlazingKhioneus 2 роки тому +5

      I'll keep this in mind next time I face Winona's Milotic(I always thought there was a different reason. I never got frozen when facing it)

    • @iss2075
      @iss2075 2 роки тому +10

      @@BlazingKhioneus Winona's Milotic is one of the most iconic Pokemon you fight in the Gen III games. It spams Recover like there's no tomorrow.

    • @SomeGuy712x
      @SomeGuy712x 2 роки тому +7

      Since when did Winona have a Milotic? Did you all mean Wallace?

    • @BlazingKhioneus
      @BlazingKhioneus 2 роки тому +15

      @@SomeGuy712x We know what we typed.

    • @foxbird123
      @foxbird123 2 роки тому +3

      I'm just getting around to finishing this video, and I was wondering if anyone else would mention not getting frozen in sunlight.

  • @stephenveerasammy3074
    @stephenveerasammy3074 2 роки тому +104

    Jrose! You've been killing it for content recently.
    Don't forget to rest, I can only imagine your going full force

  • @radishpineapple74
    @radishpineapple74 2 роки тому +48

    The creativity and out-of-the-box thinking that went into this video were incredible. I think that this truly is one of your best videos of all time. The only thing I can think is that maybe you could add a map graphic to show where you're thinking about going when you're thinking about routing considerations, and maybe a graphic to explain the confusing mechanic parts.

  • @Zeturic
    @Zeturic 2 роки тому +51

    I was thinking earlier today about how in later generations (Gen VI onwards), doing a "minimum battles" run would incentivize you to have a full team and to switch out so as many of them as possible have been on the field before knocking out a Pokémon, because gaining XP only through the EXP Share gives half of what you would receive if you actually participated, so having all your Pokémon directly participate only increases the total amount of experience your team gets.
    Very different from these, which are practically solo runs since you can't afford to split experience between multiple Pokémon.

    • @sagacious03
      @sagacious03 2 роки тому +2

      That does sound like it'd be interesting. I hope someone tries it!

    • @velvetbutterfly
      @velvetbutterfly 2 роки тому +1

      Though Affection would make the run a joke

    • @Zeturic
      @Zeturic 2 роки тому +6

      @@velvetbutterfly In Let's Go and BDSP, maybe, but otherwise, no, it wouldn't. Aside from LGPE and BDSP, it's incredibly easy to avoid Affection bonuses, and basically just involves "don't go out of your way to do side modes that increase Affection".
      In Gen VI you only gain Affection via Pokémon Amie. Ignore that feature and you'll never gain any, and thus you will never have any of Affection's in-battle effects (surviving at 1HP, etc) activate. Gen VII is the same way, just with Pokémon Refresh instead of Pokémon Amie.
      Even in SwSh, all you have to do is avoid Pokémon Camp and walking with your Pokémon outside of its Poké Ball in the DLC Wild Areas. Friendship and Affection are merged into a single stat, yes, but there's a soft cap that prevents it from getting high enough to trigger any of the in-battle effects through normal gameplay (e.g. leveling up).

  • @rasmusn.e.m1064
    @rasmusn.e.m1064 2 роки тому +169

    Yay. Caught this immediately and am happy. Like it or not, these videos are directly correlated with me being way more excited than usual that day :)

    • @guitarfreak80ftw
      @guitarfreak80ftw 2 роки тому +1

      So true

    • @rajkanishu
      @rajkanishu 2 роки тому

      why would we not like such a thing tho

    • @vrzrea795
      @vrzrea795 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, it is not like you need this videos to be happy. Im pretty happy in my life. But having this videos is very welcome plus

    • @rasmusn.e.m1064
      @rasmusn.e.m1064 2 роки тому

      @@rajkanishu Well, I just don't want jrose11 to feel personally responsible for other people's mental health.

  • @mrman8442
    @mrman8442 2 роки тому +131

    Your content is the best, the absolute gold standard. Never am i more excited than when a new jrose video comes out

    • @williampaabreeves
      @williampaabreeves 2 роки тому +2

      i wish to like the comment, but the counter is currently 69 so instead I leave a comment

  • @Draezeth
    @Draezeth Рік тому +3

    Imagine saving the world by walking up to a legendary Pokémon, then just running away.
    I actually never knew it just... let you run like that!

  • @GrayLanternPPA
    @GrayLanternPPA 2 роки тому +23

    My favorite sub-series! Really hope this isn't the end. I know for a fact Platinum can be done. I'd think gen 5 would be good too since it really downplayed the need for HM's.

    • @bakes1324
      @bakes1324 2 роки тому +3

      Gen 7 doesn’t have hms

  • @HarveyMeadowlark
    @HarveyMeadowlark 2 роки тому +33

    Really cool to see some more stuff from other generations. The gen 1 solo challenges will always be well loved by the fans but it’s a nice breath of fresh air to see something else. Also, the rate of uploads is insane, really happy that I get new JRose videos so frequently now

  • @shepskydad
    @shepskydad 2 роки тому +15

    Awesome run. You’re great for taking care in the minor details like Sapphire’s higher difficulty for these runs. So dialed in and entertaining from start to finish.

  • @lillithplays6514
    @lillithplays6514 2 роки тому +31

    What if you got poisoned off the first guy in victory road, entered the Pokemon League, immediately left, backtracked to delete Waterfall and Strength, then blacked out from poison to respawn after victory road?

    • @marcmardini6873
      @marcmardini6873 2 роки тому +8

      That’s so big brained it might actually work

    • @emilydonegan3208
      @emilydonegan3208 2 роки тому

      My thoughts too lol

    • @cherry9787
      @cherry9787 2 роки тому +1

      Good thinking, but that would require an additional battle to make swampert faint from the poison, which would be an optional battle

    • @cherry9787
      @cherry9787 2 роки тому +2

      Nvm forgot poison deals damage outside of battle in R/S/E lol

    • @Corundrom
      @Corundrom 2 роки тому

      Pretty sure you have to heal at the pokemon league in order to come back there after fainting, not just enter it

  • @Ismy64
    @Ismy64 2 роки тому +6

    I was wondering if somehow you could start the Elite 4 with no HMs on the swampert in a run like this, and I might have found a way to do so:
    • Go to Wally and get your swampert poisoned by his roselia (somehow, or get to Wally already poisoned from somewhere else).
    • Faint all other pokémon in the party.
    • Defeat Wally while poisoned and enter the Pokémon League.
    • Backtrack to Lilycove City and remove all HMs while keeping swampert alive with potions for the trip.
    • Blackout by poison to teleport back to the Pokémon League.
    • Teach any TMs you want.
    This should work without adding any battles, and it would be fun to see if it's actually possible!

    • @icarusmarioFAN
      @icarusmarioFAN 2 роки тому +1

      Wait, wouldn't you need to heal in order to make it teleport you to the Pokémon League after blacking out, which invalidates the entire strat?

    • @Ismy64
      @Ismy64 2 роки тому +1

      you might be right, and that's why i was somewhat unsure about it. i don't remember if you just need to visit a center or you actually have to use the machine

    • @Ismy64
      @Ismy64 2 роки тому +1

      @@icarusmarioFAN I confirm you just need to enter a Pokémon Center and not use the machine, so my plan will work!

    • @icarusmarioFAN
      @icarusmarioFAN 2 роки тому

      @@Ismy64 Cool, the strat is valid

    • @DemonVermin
      @DemonVermin 2 роки тому

      iirc thats what the guy who did a can you do R/S/E with only your starter (no evolution) did to get to the E4 with 4 empty moves. Was quite ingenious

  • @AndrooTheNerd
    @AndrooTheNerd 2 роки тому +85

    These are so much fun to watch. I'm trying to imagine the route I would even take and I'm drawing a blank. Super excited to see what you do here!

  • @patbilek692
    @patbilek692 2 роки тому +5

    I really love how there's a ton of challenge videos out there, but jrose's are the only ones I've seen that feel like they're coming at it scientifically. It's usually not can you beat, it's how easily can you beat. Love it.

  • @lemeres2478
    @lemeres2478 2 роки тому +2

    other than the anorith, every member of this team provided their own unique and vital roles.

    • @darkfiredragon3410
      @darkfiredragon3410 2 роки тому

      Anorith was kinda important too, he lifted Swampert from Rock Smash duty.

  • @sashasscribbles
    @sashasscribbles 2 роки тому +18

    This was a super cool run! I have actually given Emerald minimum battles a few attempts after being inspired by the red/blue series and yuuup, Rival 2 under cycling road really is a wall.
    Maybe jumping forward a ton of generations to Alola or BDSP could be good. Neither require you to have HM pokemon and BDSP has the EXP share which makes using more than one pokemon easier c:

  • @Gwabd64
    @Gwabd64 2 роки тому +33

    Great video as always! Was somewhat amusing to hear you say you didn't pick up a PP Up during the E4 when you sold one while shopping just before it lol
    Also since you mentioned how rare it would be to fight Tate and Liza before Winona, fun fact: In RSE, the badge check before the E4 only actually checks if you have Winona's badge, because it's the only completely optional badge in the game. So if you're using hacks or glitches, or playing a map randomizer, you can get into the E4 as soon as you beat Winona!

    • @petelee2477
      @petelee2477 2 роки тому

      You can also skip brawley since flash isn't mandatory either

    • @Gwabd64
      @Gwabd64 2 роки тому +6

      IIRC you do eventually need to beat Brawly because you can't fight Norman without four gym badges, but yeah you can skip him for a good while

  • @SvviftDeath
    @SvviftDeath 2 роки тому +6

    This idea is mental. I had no idea what a run like this would be like but you are an absolute madman for doing it. Congrats on reaching your goal and that was an amazing string of planned luck to pull you through to the end. Also the fact that you don't use save states and can't go back if you find out you locked yourself from being able to complete the challenge in some way is damn impressive that you didn't have to reset from the beginning. Excited for the next video, they are all so good.

  • @acumenium8157
    @acumenium8157 2 роки тому +23

    Incredible run. I love how the Twitch stream actually came in handy for the Destiny Bond idea. It actually helped. A lot!

  • @jubdroid2590
    @jubdroid2590 2 роки тому +8

    I don’t know how I’m not burned out from watching your videos. Normally I get tired of youtubers but I’ve been watching you consistently since I’ve found your channel and I love your format and commentary. Definitely my favourite poketuber, which is a pretty high bar… this is an amazing community of talented people, and you’re the pinnacle of this. Keep up the good work.
    P.S. never let the count impression die, puts mahdrybread’s fossil gag to shame (no offence to him his videos bop too)

  • @Nick_Slavik
    @Nick_Slavik 2 роки тому +5

    Oh man!!!! This one was such a nail biter! I love the energy and enthusiasm you put into your voiceovers! It feels like it is usually just one continous play by play. I always feel myself get so tense during multiple attempted battles lol then relief when you finally win!
    Love the work JRose! Can't wait for more!

  • @YukeWeiss
    @YukeWeiss 2 роки тому +4

    I adore the Minimum Battles series. It's mind boggling just how few you got for this run and how much weaving around you had to do just to get to the end. I remember being in stream for almost the whole thing (saw myself in chat) and this was a terrific video.
    I really hope you give Emerald a crack.

  • @wozda55
    @wozda55 2 роки тому +2

    50:00 "a 'Nice' amount of HP." that was so smooth i almost missed it

  • @bongodavid123
    @bongodavid123 2 роки тому +13

    Personally I think you can absolutely finish a minimum battles run in every gen. Though some "optional" battles might be necessary. Like catching a pokemon for hms.

    • @jbz4788
      @jbz4788 Рік тому +1

      The Victory road in Diamond/Pearl would probably mean it was required to catch something as you need Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock climb & Rock smash to get through and I don’t think the gift pokemon not behind battles can learn Rock climb in particular.

  • @skeetermania3202
    @skeetermania3202 2 роки тому +10

    0:10 I’ve sifted through every challenge video you’ve made thanks to two extremely helpful playlists, and I only saw one for Emerald and another for Ruby/Sapphire.
    4:49 Even if you had a second Pokémon, that would change nothing (aside from one extra battle to catch a wild Pokémon). In Ruby/Sapphire, twin NPCs won’t battle you unless you directly talk to them, while in pretty much every other game (including Emerald), they will battle you if you pass by them in their sight.
    53:44 My brain just hatched a galaxy brain tier idea! See what you think of this.
    On a mandatory Trainer where it’s possible to get poisoned (Wally among them), have several potions on hand and walk into the Ever Grande centre, then walk out to be the designated area you will be teleported to if you white out. For this to be possible, Swampert will have to be the only still active Pokémon and be poisoned. You can then go back to Lilycove, delete the HMs, and relearn new moves. After that, intentionally have Swampert faint to poison, and you’ll get teleported back to Ever Grande. That way, you don’t have to waste an extra unnecessary battle on whiting out to a wild Pokémon.
    57:23 Waterfall can’t flinch in Gen 3. Just thought I’d let you know of that.

    • @bongodavid123
      @bongodavid123 2 роки тому

      That solution to getting rid of HMs is probably one of the most galaxybrain sugfestions ever :)

  • @pokemaniac333
    @pokemaniac333 2 роки тому +10

    Side-Nye
    This was a blast to watch! I wonder how close to minimum you could get with Treecko or Torchic. I'm assuming there are not enough gift Pokemon for your HMs, so an additional battle against a Zigzagoon would probably be necessary.

  • @jasonblack4208
    @jasonblack4208 2 роки тому +2

    "Should I switch out?"
    "Sure, Wynaut?"

  • @RoyArkon
    @RoyArkon 2 роки тому +2

    What's even more amazing is that you managed to get some of the things to complete this challenge on the fly like the Destiny Bond thing, this is truly fantastic dude.

  • @Zutentu
    @Zutentu 2 роки тому +3

    I love that all teammates were able pull their weight at some point of the run! Great video!

  • @therepublic21
    @therepublic21 2 роки тому +21

    Long time fan, and still adore your stuff Jrose! I hope we get to see more gen 3 runs!

  • @michaeljbuckley
    @michaeljbuckley 2 роки тому +1

    Savage going. I'm loving the crazy luck of late. The amount of time you spend on planning and working out these runs must be insane. Great stuff!!

  • @Mr.Not.Perfect
    @Mr.Not.Perfect 2 роки тому

    Your minimum battle videos are always a joy to watch and rewatch. This one was no exception. Would love to see the series move forward!

  • @nathanielmathews2617
    @nathanielmathews2617 2 роки тому +19

    Thank you for these videos so much. I got extreme PTSD and sleeping can be so stressful, but this is such light hearted content and relaxing, I just fall asleep so well to it. Things aren't perfect, I still experience disturbing thoughts and sleep disturbances, but these vids make the process so much better.
    You and Scott's Thoughts I appreciate so much. Thanks again!

  • @tylerhollingsworth9152
    @tylerhollingsworth9152 2 роки тому +4

    Sit down on toilet…gets notification on phone….new jrose upload….this is gonna be good ;)

  • @blaze9327
    @blaze9327 2 роки тому

    Just wanna say that I’m in vet school and your videos are a great way for me to take a mental break, especially with them being so long. Love that you’ve been posting a lot of videos lately. Thank you!

  • @airtempest8945
    @airtempest8945 2 роки тому +6

    Looking at this, at least the EXP Share that has to be done to evolve an egg mon isn't as hilariously degenerate as doing the silly "You gotta evolve Togepi for Fly to skip a trainer on the way back to Canalave" thing.

  • @GymLeaderMatt1987
    @GymLeaderMatt1987 2 роки тому +17

    These are helpful. I know a lot of people, like myself enjoy doing solo runs as well and I'll admit that R/B/S are a little foreign to me. It's just good knowledge to build off of if you want to get more serious in runs. I've done a Spheal run but you aren't doing that at minimum battles, lol.

  • @ClaraFinn
    @ClaraFinn 2 роки тому +42

    Yes I’ve been waiting for this one! Can’t wait to watch it. After the last brutal challenge I was expecting something simpler as well. You’re on fire recently man
    Edit- just finished it, absolutely incredible turn of events. That’s twice now Glacia has been a nightmare in your Gen 3 vids. Which is kinda funny since she was always an easy trainer in casual playthroughs imo

    • @mjdxp5688
      @mjdxp5688 2 роки тому +3

      I like your pfp :)

    • @ClaraFinn
      @ClaraFinn 2 роки тому +2

      @@mjdxp5688 thank you! Like yours too 🤗

  • @Lokiip
    @Lokiip 2 роки тому

    We love to see it! Jrose keeping fresh content and still being able to go in detail so we'll. That's what I love is how detailed your videos are. Even when I use them to sleep, I can imagine every detail. The best of your kind of UA-camr imo. Makes my mentally hardest days so much easier to "detox" my brain from. Much love brother.

  • @huntereddy4014
    @huntereddy4014 2 роки тому

    This is one of the most satisfying runs I've seen. The sheer strategies that Jrose11 has to come up with for these runs are amazing! And I love that this is really just a "regular" playthrough, no modified game or complicated rule set. Just no items in battle, and avoid every fight you can.
    I especially loved how you can't get pokemon from the game corner in this game. Feels like it really limits you in a fair way and makes you use the few pokemon you can get in creative ways. I'd love to see minimum Battles Fire Red/Leaf Green with the same rules + no game corner pokemon.

  • @LQVaughn
    @LQVaughn 2 роки тому +9

    So pumped for another minimum battles challenge!!!

  • @BraindeadArchives
    @BraindeadArchives 2 роки тому +3

    always a treat to see you post something new every once in a while jrose. keep it up

  • @Jokester954
    @Jokester954 2 роки тому +1

    The return of the OG intro music is going to be sooo good when it finally happens! 😍

  • @DoctorNerf
    @DoctorNerf Рік тому +1

    Deafeated by a Ninja trainer around Fortree is literally S tier. I feel like that trainer waited their for our entire collective lives to force you into a reset.

  • @plhbuschannel
    @plhbuschannel 2 роки тому +20

    I would think doing a damageless sword and shield run might be a good idea!
    oh btw this run definitely brutal when you see that the thumbnail being 1 out of 2000 chance and it took 1 hour and 10 minutes to the end of challenge, which is effectively longer than gsc wobuffet solo run!
    update: it is Soooo entertaining to watch bro!

    • @cubedmelons876
      @cubedmelons876 2 роки тому +5

      I imagine a damageless run in any post-gen4 game would be a nightmare, if not impossible, because of Sturdy. There are some pokemon you just can't oneshot anymore, so you'd have to take hits.

    • @joshuajennings4070
      @joshuajennings4070 2 роки тому +2

      @CubedMelons multi-hit moves exist

    • @plhbuschannel
      @plhbuschannel 2 роки тому

      Joshua Jennings it would be even a step further in difficulty
      (honestly the hardest one probably would be raihan with sand + double battle)

    • @xEmpress95
      @xEmpress95 2 роки тому +1

      @@cubedmelons876 There's been a few done mostly relying on a whole lot of luck, Shedinja, Quick Claw, Staraptor, Priority Moves and overlevelling, as well as exploiting the Daycare for 9 hours to grind pokemon.

    • @uygarcelik7
      @uygarcelik7 2 роки тому

      @@xEmpress95 it isnt a challenge with daycare

  • @CartoonKarma
    @CartoonKarma 2 роки тому +6

    Commenting before watching the video this time, because oh boy! Having done a video of this challenge myself ages ago, I know all the difficulties; 3 barely usable gift Pokémon on top of Swampert, only 50 battles (my Swampert was barely Lv. 44 after beating Sidney), Mud Slap or Double Team being the only winnable strategy in nearly ten of those battles (a little less in Ruby, Maxie’s Camerupt is much easier then Archie’s Sharpedo). Knowing how much JRose despises Double Team, and rightly so, I predict much frustration. This is objectively the most difficult Minimum Battles run by a country mile; that 1/1200 odds in the thumbnail is not an exaggeration! Even Emerald is notably easier due to only half as many battles needing Double Team, with the numerous extra mandatory wild trainers giving some much-needed extra experience.
    Will he spy alternate strategies somewhere that I missed? I mean, probably, I didn’t cop on to using the rented Fearow in Gold/Silver, though that was ultimately equally easy to Feraligatr once Rare Candies were used to close the level gap. I look much forward to watching this one later!
    EDIT: Okay, so JRose managed to avoid using Double Team even once, though the strategies he used for some of those battles (Archie 1, Norman, Archie 2, Wallace and Sidney; Rival 3 also, but as you can safely set up on Numel that isn’t luck-dependant at all) sometimes had just as low odds and thus needed just as many attempts. But they were far more fun to watch, helped by him having a video almost twice as long that could really get into the nitty-gritty. And otherwise, he often dealt damage faster due to trying more unorthodox moves.
    On the other hand, I never had to grind coins for another Ice Beam, and saving the Rare Candies until after Sidney gave me an easy run for the rest of the Elite Four (beat Phoebe, Glacia and Drake 1st try) and Steven (took three tries), finishing the run at Lv. 60 - I even had similar “stall reflect out” shenanigans by Metagross. So easier and harder in different places. Were I doing this again, I would take a lot from his run, but keep some elements of mine. And getting Destiny Bond onto Wynaut earlier, if possible, could really help, especially with Wallace. And equipping Shell Bell as soon as one reaches Mossdeep - disadvantage of doing a run in lengthy block sessions is you have to wait on time-based features sometimes, like the tides of that cave!

  • @luca.richard2813
    @luca.richard2813 2 роки тому +1

    I appreciate you posting more often, Jrose!! I hope you're doing well and enjoying it the grind. We love you Jose mater what

  • @Bonezones
    @Bonezones 2 роки тому

    Very thorough video man! Gen 3 is really special to me. I really look forward to any gold/silver challenges you do.

  • @taggerung890
    @taggerung890 2 роки тому +5

    Sapphire and emerald were some of my most favorite Pokemon games. I remember soloing emerald with a blazekin and Rayquaza. I've always thought there were ways to skip battles and speed up the game. This video proves it and I had a blast watching your journey !
    You should work with Pokemon challenges and small ant to do some Pokemon challenge runs!

  • @flarithen
    @flarithen 2 роки тому +6

    minimum battles in XY is very possible. i completed it recently, would love to see you do it. you are required to have Fly, so you take the charmander from sycamore, though you'll probably want cut and strength to avoid some battles.
    my personal notes below (hidden if u dont wanna read)
    start with chespin for coverage, rollout carries the 1st gym. take tyrunt over amaura in my testing, it's stronger and you don't need the ice coverage. the lucario is obviously a boon. gift lapras spots your water HMs and ice moves, rendering froakie and amaura non-mandatory. the 2nd gym is the hardest and very much requires luck, but it IS possible. i preferred Y version because oblivion wing is OP, not sure how xerneas would fair.
    my first run was actually fennekin and bulbasaur which dominated the game outside of the 2nd and 3rd gyms. however, i didnt realise fly was necessary to enter geosenge town, so i had to catch a random flyer :( i got the lowest lvl one possible so i gained as little xp as i could, but still. what was even more annoying was how yveltal was GOING to be my flier and it was literally like 1 or 2 battles away.

  • @leodavinci9682
    @leodavinci9682 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much! Those are my favorite videos, I can't imagine how much work they are but I am already looking forward to Gen4.

  • @kmytpmv314
    @kmytpmv314 2 роки тому

    One of your best! I absolutely LOVE these "odyssey" runs, and there was so much entertaining strategy and game mechanics to take advantage of. Honestly Jrose, you are a pioneer of Pokemon, taking it to uncharted horizons! I sure would be happy if you decided to make more minimum battles, the concept is so intrguing to me and many others.

  • @djembejambi
    @djembejambi 2 роки тому +3

    Swampert is my fav, it’s nice to see pretty much a solo run done with it

  • @tevindublin7620
    @tevindublin7620 2 роки тому +7

    Finally, we’re getting Gen 3 content. Can’t wait for Emerald !!

  • @afroduckaka4pf593
    @afroduckaka4pf593 2 роки тому

    Man you are amazing at everything pokemon! I hope you keep this passion for these runs. If you do, I will be watch ever step of the way cuz this is the highest quality pokemon content on all of UA-cam! Thanks for all the amazing, entertaining, and informative content you’ve produced thus far!

  • @juniemarin
    @juniemarin Рік тому

    It's amazing seeing all the imaginative strategies you have to use to get thorough these challenges! Love it! ❤

  • @dynastystar5515
    @dynastystar5515 2 роки тому +9

    I got extremely excited when I saw this in my subbox on my break at work, happy I'm home so I can watch the rest!
    Edit: Just a small bit of feedback, I REALLY like the edit of your team on the left. It would also be nice if you showed how many badges you currently have. You don't have to take the feedback, there's a chance that this is the last minimum battles run due to issues you expressed.

  • @Tigerman4545
    @Tigerman4545 2 роки тому +3

    That whole sequence at 20:52 is just my life in a nutshell

  • @Jonobonan
    @Jonobonan 2 роки тому +1

    Hell yeah JRose, really enjoying all the content you've been pumping out recently! Make sure you take a bit of time for yourself as well brother, don't want to burnout 👍

  • @mojosjojo2951
    @mojosjojo2951 2 роки тому

    I really enjoyed this episode! Seeing every mon on your team actually be useful was really interesting.

  • @SemiHypercube
    @SemiHypercube 2 роки тому +19

    Always nice seeing a Jrose video in my notifications, especially since it's been a while since a minimum battles playthrough.
    Also what's with the colors in the game? They look a bit weird. Is it because of whatever device/emulator you use to play these on?
    That Glacia battle sure was something

    • @igokoma
      @igokoma 2 роки тому

      he usually plays on physical copies so it might be the capture device?

    • @darkfiredragon3410
      @darkfiredragon3410 2 роки тому +3

      It's definitely a problem with the Retron 5.

    • @TangerineTux
      @TangerineTux 2 роки тому +1

      It looks as though it might be recording a full-range (0-255) signal but tagging it as limited or “TV range” (16-235).

  • @mr.orange9481
    @mr.orange9481 2 роки тому +13

    Great video as always! I'm excited to see a potential Emerald run. The strategy would probably be different, since the Mudkip line can learn Rollout via a move tutor in Mauville City.

  • @gaiusjuliuscaesar7561
    @gaiusjuliuscaesar7561 2 роки тому

    The strategies you come up with are really astonishing. I liked the video very much. Great work!

  • @NassiLove
    @NassiLove 4 місяці тому +1

    “It’s rare that the first gym leader is this stressful”
    *looks at his ‘can I beat Pokémon with only’ series*
    Yes. Rarely.

  • @pikapuffin368
    @pikapuffin368 2 роки тому +3

    I played through Emerald with a full party, but Mudkip was simultaneously my HM slave and my most-used Pokémon. Also never evolved him.
    I had no idea how bad I was at Pokémon as a kid. I genuinely don’t know how I beat the game, but I did!

    • @Laszlo5897
      @Laszlo5897 2 роки тому

      As a kid I had Charizard as my HM slave (gen 1) 😂

  • @OdellisaurusRex
    @OdellisaurusRex 2 роки тому +12

    I can’t explain it very well, but I’ve never seen this game look this vibrant. It’s like the contrast is higher than regular, is that intentional or is perhaps just from the retron (or however you’re playing this)?

  • @truewhissan
    @truewhissan 2 роки тому

    That was an amazing run. I am amazed at how you overcame seemingly impossible odds. Keep up the good work Jrose!

  • @TailsFWC
    @TailsFWC 2 роки тому

    My favourite gen ! I'm hella hyped, your videos are always a treat

  • @forgerofsouls9126
    @forgerofsouls9126 2 роки тому +5

    Just realized if a "least battles possible" video was made for Sword/Shield, you'd have to catch Eternatus, as you CANNOT run from it, even during the "catch" part.
    And, if you have certain save data, you can get a free Mew and Jirachi for a Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl "Least Battles Possible" run. And Mew, would basically break the run, by being able to learn all TMs.

    • @darkfiredragon3410
      @darkfiredragon3410 2 роки тому +5

      Mew being the ultimate HM slave doesn't matter in BDSP since the Poketch summons wild pokemon to use the HMs; it would still probably break the run, but by being able to learn every TM instead.

    • @forgerofsouls9126
      @forgerofsouls9126 2 роки тому +1

      @@darkfiredragon3410 Did I say HMs? I was actually meaning TMs...I'll edit that part.

  • @alexsabini7702
    @alexsabini7702 2 роки тому +3

    Great video. With regards to minimum battles on later generations. If you need a pokemon for HMs to progress the game that you can't get anywhere else. There must be a minimum way of doing it still. If you have to catch 1 pokemon to be able to progress then that is just the new minimum in my mind so don't stop it from you doing it.

  • @katycat5852
    @katycat5852 2 роки тому

    one of the best channels on youtube. wanted to wait to watch this before bed but I'm too excited to wait!

  • @billdewall6152
    @billdewall6152 Рік тому

    That Wynaut stuff at the end is brilliant. The little moments like that show that you're more than just the guy who has the patience to take on these challenges. You've also got the creativity and knowledge necessary to actually pull them off.

  • @R.B.90
    @R.B.90 2 роки тому +4

    I know you used rare candies but getting Swampert to level 56 in that few battles (won't spoil it) is pretty remarkable.

  • @petelee2477
    @petelee2477 2 роки тому +3

    46:07 I remember playing both sapphire and ruby with the constant being the game becomes easy once the overpowered legendary is captured. Didn't even matter which one.
    This challenge would be impossible if the destiny bond need happened here.

  • @bradenkirkey458
    @bradenkirkey458 2 роки тому

    Proud of you for this run, man. Very creative!

  • @MatthewJemilo
    @MatthewJemilo 2 роки тому

    Well done, love to see these kind of challenges!

  • @CarliVala
    @CarliVala 2 роки тому +5

    This video was great. Swampert is one of my favorites and is a solid starter, so it's very interesting to see it in action. Just out of curiosity, what was your final Swampert's nature? Rash?

  • @an-ei
    @an-ei 2 роки тому +6

    When I played Pokemon when I was about five years old, I would skip pretty much every battle I could and would quickly get stuck behind a trainer that had twenty levels on me.

  • @troyb5362
    @troyb5362 2 роки тому

    That was a rollercoaster! Awesome vid Jrose

  • @chinchou012
    @chinchou012 2 роки тому

    Wow this video was amazing 👏 u deserve alot of credit I can't imagine how difficult it must have been with the going back and forth and just everything in general you definitely deserve a lot of credit this was a really good video all your videos are amazing you're a true gem