I Once Hated Sonic CD (But Now I Love It!)

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  • Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
  • My experience with Sonic CD, and how my perception of it changed after I learned how to play it.
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  • @erincondron8105
    @erincondron8105 4 роки тому +240

    "It's like going into DOOM and trying to punch all the enemies to death."
    *Laughs in VG myths*

    • @RXQ87
      @RXQ87 3 роки тому +2

      Well yes but no

    • @Oricorio-Pom-Pom
      @Oricorio-Pom-Pom 3 роки тому

      He should do it

    • @gerbh4339
      @gerbh4339 3 роки тому +2

      @@Oricorio-Pom-Pom I would actually love to see her do that.

    • @BlueSmash_404
      @BlueSmash_404 2 роки тому

      I actually do that only while using Berserker,even if i already have the chainsaw.

  • @NanaKyoto
    @NanaKyoto 4 роки тому +75

    When I got the Sonic Gems Collection, I wasn't interested in Sonic CD, but rather, Sonic R.
    No, I am not kidding with that.

    • @soli-ethd
      @soli-ethd 3 роки тому +4

      I got it for Sonic the Fighters because I'd never played it before. Ah, to be young and dumb again.

    • @kylesatwon1134
      @kylesatwon1134 3 роки тому +4

      Dude, it's totally valid! The Gems Collection version of Sonic R is the superior version (in terms of control).

  • @remixV4
    @remixV4 6 років тому +353

    I loved reading game manuals :/

    • @Gamechamp3000
      @Gamechamp3000  6 років тому +73

      (Me too~)

    • @shockthetoast
      @shockthetoast 6 років тому +31

      At Christmas I'd get games while visiting relatives, and I wouldn't be able to play them until I got home. So I would sit there and read the instructions instead of being social.
      Good times.

    • @dmas7749
      @dmas7749 6 років тому +18

      Yeah I'm that one weird fuck that reads the manual before playing the game instead of popping it in as soon as you get home.
      ...what? I like to read.

    • @SolidSoundSoldier
      @SolidSoundSoldier 6 років тому +6

      Yeah backi in the day the Instruction Manuals were actually interesting, so yeah lol

    • @goosifyed9717
      @goosifyed9717 5 років тому +3

      I like reading codes.
      Ru blf ivzw gsrh, ovzev z orpv!

  • @RurouniZel
    @RurouniZel 6 років тому +522

    *hugs my Sega CD* Don't worry baby, I still love you.

    • @DarkLink1996.
      @DarkLink1996. 6 років тому +24

      **Loads up Snatcher** You make it all worth it.

    • @CornishCreamtea07
      @CornishCreamtea07 6 років тому +9

      My parents sold my about 18 years ago sadly

    • @RurouniZel
      @RurouniZel 6 років тому +5

      Noooooooooooooo! DX RIP

    • @stario1235
      @stario1235 6 років тому +1

      ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    • @blinkachu05
      @blinkachu05 6 років тому +2

      Nope. (Hugs Ps2) You're better

  • @probablymelgibson2344
    @probablymelgibson2344 6 років тому +295

    Finally someone understands the level design of the game and doesn't complain about it

    • @JamesR624
      @JamesR624 4 роки тому +21

      No... The level design is still fucking terrible.
      "This crappy Sonic level is great as long as you don't play it like a Sonic level!"
      It's really amazing the mental gymnastics the fanboys go through to defend one of the weakest classic sonic games.

    • @gentlemancharmander4411
      @gentlemancharmander4411 4 роки тому +65

      No... The level design is still amazing.
      "This great Sonic level is crappy because it plays differently!"
      It's really amazing the mental gymnastics the fanboys go through to hate one of the most unique classic sonic games.

    • @AndroidHarris
      @AndroidHarris 4 роки тому +16

      @@JamesR624 yeah some of levels aren't good like the last 2 acts in metallic madness or the pinball robotnik boss but as someone who played through all the classic sonic games for the first time recently this game has the least amount of bull crap it throws at you compared to sonic 1, 2 and 3. If say CD has the best level design out of all the classic games but still has it's annoying moments.

    • @harshal1153
      @harshal1153 4 роки тому +13

      James Rowe Wow. You can’t accept this game as good just because it pays differently.

    • @mamacofeliz6025
      @mamacofeliz6025 4 роки тому +1

      I'm definitly enjoying the stages. They are fun to explore indeed, but I gotta say, there are a lot of things that could be done better.

  • @Afrohawk512
    @Afrohawk512 6 років тому +325

    Nice vid! I think Sonic CD is definitely a hard game to grasp if you don't understand how it's supposed to play. I'm glad they tried something new without mixing up the formula too much though. Newer Sonic games could learn a thing or two from this game!
    Oh and congrats on 100k! Well deserved dude, you bring a lot of unique ideas and perspectives to the UA-cam gaming community and I'm always happy to see another video from you. Keep up the awesome job!

    • @spikesvoltage8138
      @spikesvoltage8138 6 років тому +8

      Afrohawk Sonic Mania took a few cues from CD

    • @MK-bi1hj
      @MK-bi1hj 6 років тому +3

      Spikes Voltage a few.....
      It actually took a lot

    • @tonyhakston536
      @tonyhakston536 6 років тому +1

      Formula? That didn't even exist yet?

    • @patk2225
      @patk2225 6 років тому +2

      yeah sega made some weird business decisions like sega made 9 consoles that competed with the nes game system and sega never made 1 console that competed with the snes game system

    • @squak___
      @squak___ 6 років тому +2

      i figured out the game by myself somehow

  • @pokechatter
    @pokechatter 6 років тому +168

    Playing Doom only by punching sounds like a game myth.

    • @dmas7749
      @dmas7749 6 років тому +11

      Honestly I think that metaphor doesn't fit very well. If you were to play Doom with only the punch, that would be a Self-Imposed Challenge. But the signs in the game are more of an in-game challenge. Rather, it's more like if Doom had optional hostages to go and rescue where tougher obstacles and challenges where laid out but had a fairly simple start-to-finish goal.

    • @funtainment777
      @funtainment777 6 років тому +1

      D MAS he isn't comparing punch only to the signs. he is saying that it is a self imposed challenge gamechamp should do in vg myths

    • @dmas7749
      @dmas7749 6 років тому

      My nitpick was more at the vid itself

    • @keiyakins
      @keiyakins 4 роки тому

      It's a speedrun category. UV-Tyson.

    • @MesaAufenhand
      @MesaAufenhand 4 роки тому

      Been done

  • @dejuanmoore2064
    @dejuanmoore2064 6 років тому +29

    I can't lie though, I love Sonic CD's soundtrack, it's so beautiful and catchy.

  • @Ballinlikebert
    @Ballinlikebert 6 років тому +58

    I love it because of how unique the backgrounds, music, and overall feel.

  • @solarflare9078
    @solarflare9078 6 років тому +29

    Nice video! Sonic CD is definitely one of those "easy to learn, hard to master" games with its time travel mechanic, and I LOVE it.

    • @justavulpixlol
      @justavulpixlol 3 роки тому +2

      It my fav sonic game (mania was ok).

  • @youmeltube
    @youmeltube 6 років тому +75

    One of the reasons why I love CD is that, a lot of its levels feel like huge playgrounds. People praise the physics and momentum in Sonic 1 through 3&K but there was rarely a moment where you could actually go nuts and explore what the physics were capable of (Unless its Casino Night or w.e). Stages like Collision Chaos, Stardust Speedway and Metallic Madness reward you for using all of your moves (and the super underrated Peelout) to their fullest potential!

    • @tonyhakston536
      @tonyhakston536 6 років тому +4

      underrated? that's like the most overrated move in Sonic's entire arsenal.

    • @TyRiders2
      @TyRiders2 6 років тому +16

      Not really, Most People shit all over Sonic CD. I prefer it over Sonic 2.

    • @Shadowslash1
      @Shadowslash1 5 років тому +2

      Nothing is better than getting enough speed to fly past the top of the screen for a good few moments, bounce on a robot or tv and fly back out of view XD
      Though, the Figure 8 Peelout was a little underwhelming imo, since it moved just as fast as the spin dash and only destroys robots ya land on, not run into or fly up into because of aforementioned upward momentum.

    • @user-nf2es5xv5w
      @user-nf2es5xv5w 4 роки тому

      No, the most underrated hability of Sonic it’s CD spindash, that I called Super Spin Out. When it’s really a Plus of the Super Peel Out.

    • @SonicntZane
      @SonicntZane Рік тому

      @@tonyhakston536 no. Trust me, it is not.

  • @randytyson
    @randytyson 6 років тому +86

    Sonic cd was my first 2d sonic game. I think that's why o never had problems with it and why it's my favorite 2d sonic game

  • @user8213-h
    @user8213-h 6 років тому +26

    I have been waiting this moment,i was a watcher of your videos since a long time but i did not subscribe because i wanted to do something new,i wanted to be your 100,000 subscriber,at some point i saw your subs was 99,997 so i kept refreshing until you got 99,999 so i subscribed,you deserve this,all of your videos are awesome,it makes me happy everytime,humor facts everything you do is amazing,keep up the amazing work,i will bear with ye until you get 1 million,it won't be hard for you.

  • @siegfriedfinal343
    @siegfriedfinal343 6 років тому +32

    Your channel is underrated
    Great video!

  • @Wildcard-Jack-47
    @Wildcard-Jack-47 6 років тому +6

    That’s the good thing about being a completionist you get to see a game in certain ways

  • @popixel
    @popixel 4 роки тому +6

    Glad that you have come into the light. Sonic CD has always been one of my favorite Sonic games of the 16 bit era.

  • @zade3488
    @zade3488 6 років тому +5

    Thank you, I never understood Sonic CD as a kid and spent way more time on Sonic the Fighters (no regrets tho) but now I think I'll go back and try and beat it.

  • @Da_Swifta
    @Da_Swifta 6 років тому +5

    You know, as a kid I didn't really like the gameplay that much in Sonic CD but I still thought of it as a good game (probably mostly because of the amazing opening cutscene), I just had no idea what I was supposed to do. Now, playing the game again several years into the future with a better understanding of what I'm supposed to do, the game feels fun again, and not just in an exciting childish way, but I actually enjoy the gameplay. Not as much as maybe some of the other Sonic games but this game holds it's own as one of the best in the franchise regardless because of how unique and fresh it is.
    Also I love Metal Sonic, it's my favorite Sonic character and my favorite rival/villain, and this was his debut game, so of course I'm going to love this game.

  • @rosebuster
    @rosebuster 6 років тому +2

    I actually liked this game very much! But I first played it when it came out on Steam. The basic instructions showed up at the beginning, explaining I need speed to do time travel, so I wasn't as confused. I guess at first I just wasn't sure what I was supposed to do with all those timelines. But that's part of the fun to discover what the game is about. I now have very fond memories of Sonic CD.

  • @andrewt6338
    @andrewt6338 6 років тому +34

    Damn, nice perspective. Maybe I should give this another shot.

    • @myrupcat4761
      @myrupcat4761 6 років тому +5

      Well, If You Already Have It, I'd Recommend You'd Try It Out.
      I Found Myself Having A Lot Of Fun With The Mobile Port.

    • @Serje397
      @Serje397 6 років тому +11

      +Savage Jesus Sonic CD was never a bad game, really. People praised it when it first came out.

    • @Serje397
      @Serje397 6 років тому +8

      +Savage Jesus At least it's better than playing the same repetitive shit. People like Sonic CD for being different compared to every other 2D Sonic games.

    • @Sonic171K
      @Sonic171K 6 років тому

      Serje397 And I hate it for how different it is. It's like it is trying to not be a Sonic game.

    • @Serje397
      @Serje397 6 років тому +9

      +Sonic171000 I completely understand why you & other people don't like CD. But for someone like me who's been playing 2D Sonic for almost my entire life, the games get a bit repetitive sometimes. When I play CD, it feel like a breath of fresh air.

  • @CjMcwillams
    @CjMcwillams 6 років тому +11

    I'm glad you finally came to love the game, but i find extreme frustration with how the time travel mechanic works, since there's a lot of times where the level can suddenly stop you w/o warning. if it was as easy as hitting an item box or a warp ring, it'd be a lot more fun to explore and complete the levels, i feel.

  • @mtleahy
    @mtleahy 6 років тому +34

    Congratulations On 100K

    • @mtleahy
      @mtleahy 6 років тому

      Geometry Dasher 2078 :D

  • @colonelsandwich641
    @colonelsandwich641 6 років тому +5

    I really liked the idea of having to keep your speed up for a certain amount of time in order to get to the past, when you pulled it off it felt very rewarding. I just wish it was less punishing, since if you screw it up after you've almost made it you lose it. I also don't know why it was necessary to have future signs, because unless you're curious there's no reason to even go to the future in any given stage. It's just an annoying obstacle, and I think if the game only let you go to the past and present nothing would really be lost.
    Nice video, btw!

    • @DarkLink1996.
      @DarkLink1996. 6 років тому +1

      Plus, it gave it the feel of building up the required speed Back to the Future style.

    • @voxelbugged
      @voxelbugged 6 років тому

      ColonelSandwich The good future has easier level design

  • @PopfulFrost
    @PopfulFrost 6 років тому +8

    *actually owns a Sega CD... that he bought for like, $20 at a flea market*
    Also, I've always played Sonic CD like this, but it's nice having a guide like this to show people! Thanks a ton, Gamechamp!

    • @jonnysac77
      @jonnysac77 Рік тому

      You got lucky, those things are at least 200 dollars now

  • @theancientone4933
    @theancientone4933 6 років тому +2

    This is the only Sonic game I've ever played, and I played it ALL the time as a kid, and yet I never knew anything about that time travel mechanic.
    My mind is officially blown.

  • @OwlScowling
    @OwlScowling 6 років тому +1

    I can always rely on your channel to make videos that no one else will! Always super interesting.

  • @CookieTime1170
    @CookieTime1170 8 місяців тому +2

    Sonic cd is without a doubt the most unique and alienated Sonic game out of the classics which is why so many people are turned off by it and it’s design because they are so used to playing classic Sonic games only one way and Sonic Cd is a slightly different take on it, heck I didn’t like it a lot when I first played it, but when I took the time to find out how to use the time travel mechanic and really take in the levels graphics it quickly became my preferred experience, I’m so happy you decided to give my favourite Sonic game a different outlook! It truly deserves it…(and yes I prefer it over Sonic 2 & 3, not that those games aren’t fantastic in there own right) 🙂

  • @YourTypicalRemixer
    @YourTypicalRemixer 6 років тому +2

    Best thing to do is get the first few Genorators but collecting Time Stones alone the way, then clear the regular way, as that as classic, that’s how it feels for me. Other than Mania, Sonic CD is literally my most favorite Sonic game and I hold no regrets.

  • @s3kstage232
    @s3kstage232 6 років тому +20

    I'd like this game more if time travel wasn't so cumbersome. The fact that you have a limited amount of time travel doesn't make a lot of sense, and maintaining high speed for a few seconds just to get stopped in your tracks by a misjump or wall just before the warp is very annoying and doesn't help the matter. And I do have to question the inclusion of a time limit in a game focused on exploration.

    • @MrBell-xl7hd
      @MrBell-xl7hd 5 років тому +1

      10 minutes is more than enough time if you know what you're doing, I can usually spend 4-5 minutes to find the sign posts and destroy the machine to get a good future. My favorite is traveling through time on the same stage I destroy eggman's machine to see the good future I created. There's a lot of tricks to easily travel through the past and future, you can spindash and jump onto a spring and you will still maintain the speed you need to time travel. It all becomes pretty easy once you get the hang of it actually.

    • @doctorwhy8685
      @doctorwhy8685 4 роки тому +3

      @@MrBell-xl7hd so, to enjoy the game you need to learn the levels?

    • @darkness74185
      @darkness74185 4 роки тому +3

      @@doctorwhy8685 it's how basically all older platformer works

    • @jaredargento1511
      @jaredargento1511 10 місяців тому

      @@darkness74185 That may be true, but I can only look past that so much when it actively prevents me from enjoying a game (especially since I’m the kind of player who believes that first impressions matter A LOT), and being spoiled by later games that, in my opinion, are actually beginner-friendly and balanced, is something I can’t help. I just don’t get used to older mechanics and tropes at the snap of a finger.

  • @anonymousbacon3233
    @anonymousbacon3233 6 років тому +5

    It’s never a bad day for Gamechamp3000

  • @zachychan3288
    @zachychan3288 6 років тому +7

    When he through it in the trash he should've said; "I'm outta here."

  • @rofidel178
    @rofidel178 3 роки тому +1

    I had the same reaction the first time got the game complete (when I was young I only had a pc demo that allowed me to play Palmtree Panic and 1st special stage only) and I didn't get it either, how could it be so complicated? I had so many doubts. Nah this can't be good. But then after checking guides on how to beat the game and what's the goal my opinion changed completely. Check out the graphics! The music, animations & cutscenes! The chance to have backtracking, I can go here and here too! Ahh dude so good! So it was about unlocking the good future! Silly me. Now it's one of my fav Sonic games ever! Yes the level design is strange and there are a lot of weird obstacles, but if it's worth it! Me and my bf memorized how to beat the game so we replay it sometimes, awesome video! Nice to see more positive opinions on it and sorry my bad english.

  • @jnub
    @jnub 6 років тому +15

    When you look at this game from a different angle, it's a little less obtuse.

  • @chrisman2100
    @chrisman2100 6 років тому +13

    Maybe that’s the same reason I love 1,2 and 3&K, but never cared for Sonic CD. Might have to try it again.

  • @sandeia
    @sandeia 6 років тому +1

    100,000 subs! On one of my fav channels too - truly a GameCHAMP!

  • @gggggg4987
    @gggggg4987 6 років тому +19

    Congrats on 100,000!!! You should have 100,000,000

  • @royalgod8218
    @royalgod8218 6 років тому +44

    Congrats on 100k

    • @funnynaoto
      @funnynaoto 6 років тому +1

      Tzan Tzan Thigue took the words right out of my mouth

    • @dmungiu
      @dmungiu 6 років тому

      Hey sans. You wanna have have a bababa time?

  • @superWTF64lol
    @superWTF64lol 6 років тому +4

    When I first played the game, searching through the entire level didn't really appeal to me, and I thought the level design was terrible (springs everywhere in collision chaos, slow pacing in tidal tempest that doesn't reward the player for taking the high path, stardust speedway shooting you in the opposite direction, etc.)
    It started to grow on me though, the longer I stayed in a level, the longer I got to hear the soundtrack, and then I realized that there are different themes for the past and future level variants, which made me more inclined to hear every version of each song.

  • @KujaNiv100
    @KujaNiv100 6 років тому +3

    Me too I got Sonic Gems Collection the last year and disposed of it because it was the US soundtrack on Sonic CD (while the original SCD had the JP OST in PAL version)

    • @tims.2717
      @tims.2717 5 років тому +2

      You got rid of a perfectly good game just because you didn't like the soundtrack on it?

    • @DubiousDepthsRadio
      @DubiousDepthsRadio 27 днів тому

      Yeah dude
      A soundtrack can do alot
      And sega of America is dumb for that stupid decision ​@@tims.2717

  • @MxPokirby
    @MxPokirby 6 років тому +17

    The game didn't "go from terrible to good". It was always good. You not realizing that truth from the start wouldn't change that.

    • @jaredargento1511
      @jaredargento1511 Рік тому +1

      Eh, I’ve never considered this game even close to good.

    • @KyngD469
      @KyngD469 Рік тому

      @@jaredargento1511 skill issue, or just different tastes. You wanna go fast, that's fair. The game isnt built for that.

    • @jaredargento1511
      @jaredargento1511 Рік тому

      @@KyngD469 The fact that the game isn’t built for going fast wouldn’t even bother me as much on its own, but the thing is, you can only actually get something out of the game’s larger focus on exploration by traveling to the past, which requires going fast for about five seconds straight, which CD’s levels, being more exploration-oriented, don’t really lend themselves to; so do you see the problem here?

  • @MS46532
    @MS46532 5 років тому +6

    Alot of people hating on GOOD Sonic Games like Colours, CD and even Generations....
    The Sonic Fanbase are now becoming annoying and can't stick with they own opinions...

  • @goosifyed9717
    @goosifyed9717 5 років тому +1

    On the first tall ramp in palmtree panic, hold left, you will find a hidden powerup

  • @declanhughes9538
    @declanhughes9538 6 років тому +4

    Congratulations on 100k subs it ate general clucks

  • @VideoGameAnimationStudy
    @VideoGameAnimationStudy 6 років тому +40

    I find that "two free springs" crops up quite a lot, suggesting to me that the devs couldn't be bothered to properly implement their own mechanic properly.

    • @JackBz
      @JackBz 6 років тому +19

      The free springs are just something else to find. Sure, it's lazy if it's right near a past sign post, but otherwise it's just another exploration element. Sometimes it's fun to pass a double spring, find the past sign post, then try and backtrack to find the springs you remember passing earlier.

    • @kevinm.5951
      @kevinm.5951 6 років тому +4

      Dan Root its a freebe, use it god damn it.
      Its honestly not even that bad throughout the game.

    • @rappingbeaniedog347
      @rappingbeaniedog347 6 років тому +1

      it would've helped in WackyWorkbench then. Maybe it's there too, but heaven forbid I see anything going on when bouncing high in the skies into death traps.

    • @toamatoro570
      @toamatoro570 6 років тому +3

      Even when that pops up there's still the challenge of finding the robot generator.

    • @fabiakmusic
      @fabiakmusic 6 років тому

      @@rappingbeaniedog347 i don't really get launched into the sky and caught by the electric coils everytime, but yeah; the checkered floors are quite annoying indeed

  • @Technonova323
    @Technonova323 6 років тому +1

    Congratulations on getting to 100,000 subs!

  • @Faizan1631
    @Faizan1631 6 років тому +1

    I've had the exact same experience with Sonic CD, I thought I'd 100% it the week before mania release in preparation for it but then I ended up loving it in a way I never had before

  • @mollywantshugs5944
    @mollywantshugs5944 2 роки тому +1

    The funny thing about the “punching all the enemies in Doom” analogy is that you actually should do a good bit of that to save ammo in Doom, especially on higher difficulties

  • @benelated5638
    @benelated5638 6 років тому +2

    I’m still a kid so I play sonic cd on phone how ever it WAS SO HARD I WENT THOUGH 5 RUNS JUST TO GET EVERY TIME STONE EVERY SHELD GENERATER (that’s what I call them) and IT WAS SOOOOOOOOOO HARD the fact I had to go through the game that’s many time IT WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GR8 WHEN I FINALLY 100% THE GAME I TOLD EVERYONE IN MY HOUSE WHEN I BEAT IT AND I still loved it despite the fact I got annoyed trying to find and get the time stones and shield generators it was really fun and I enjoyed it so much now I want to play it again also the shield generators wasn’t the hardest part IT WAS THE FRICKEN TIMES STONES the ufo game is SOOOOOOOOOOOO hard that I stoped playing for a wile out of rage but I still loved it no matter how hard I raged or rage quit it was fun

  • @megafan1137
    @megafan1137 6 років тому +7

    I once loved Sonic CD... now I'm just indifferent to it, honestly.

  • @BlueKnightV20
    @BlueKnightV20 5 років тому +1

    About the manuals. I never read them either. I just start the game and go with the on-screen tutorials. But I do like to read through them, especially Sly and Ratchet & Clank's.
    Now the gae itself, I never played it. Nor knew any of the gameplay mechanics were slightly more complex and exploration than other Sonic games.

  • @casualfool122
    @casualfool122 3 роки тому +3

    I love Sonic CD! By far one of my favorite Sonic games :)
    But holy f*ck that Collision Chaos boss battle gives me PTSD

  • @marzipancutter8144
    @marzipancutter8144 6 років тому +6

    People never read instruction manuals, yet complain about unskippable tutorials or unclear mechanics. The funniest part is that these are usually the same people.
    Hypocrisy at its finest.

    • @marzipancutter8144
      @marzipancutter8144 4 роки тому +1

      @DDMania123K aka DDMania What video games should do is a rather philosophical question, but for the most part I'd agree with you.
      However, I don't think that applies in this case. There's a limit to how much you can encourage exploration without straight up forcing it, and this game already goes to great lengths to show you there's secrets everywhere.
      But if you're determined to press forward and ignore that the whole level just changed and everything you've went past before has changed and might be worth checking out again, they can't stop you without severely limiting your freedom.
      The point still stands though that if you choose to actively ignore optional information provided to you and then complain that you didn't get the memo, don't be surprised if it's not going to be optional next time.

  • @madson-web
    @madson-web 6 років тому +27

    "I Once Hated Sonic CD (But Now I Love It!)" history of my life

  • @flintbeetle4276
    @flintbeetle4276 6 років тому

    Congrats! You hit one hundred thousand subscribers! Well done!

  • @cumcockproductions6433
    @cumcockproductions6433 3 роки тому +2

    Sometimes trying to gain momentum to go to the past is annoying considering the later levels have more complex and often cryptic level design that prevents you from gaining momentum

    • @jaredargento1511
      @jaredargento1511 3 роки тому +1

      Hell, I’d argue the annoyances start as early as Collision Chaos, which I actually consider to be the worst level the main classic Sonic games have ever spawned.

  • @DrRank
    @DrRank 6 років тому +2

    That's the problem with a lot of the classics. They make no effort to teach you how to actually complete them without looking at the manual. Of course, there are some exceptions. Super Mario Bros., for instance. It opens up with Mario on the left side of the screen, facing right, telling the player that they'll be spending the entire game walking to the right. When they see the first Goomba, it's immediately clear from its appearance and movement that this is something you do not want to touch. The player cannot get past this Goomba until they learn how to jump, which they will do quickly by trying the other buttons. Start makes it impossible to move, but also pauses the timer; Select doesn't do anything; and B only has a noticeable effect while moving, which is in and of itself optional. This just leaves A, which, hallelujah, makes Mario jump! The player will probably try to jump over the Goomba first, but will likely fail because of the blocks above them. Luckily, in the process, they will land on top of the Goomba and learn that Mario can murder enemies with his feet. Meanwhile, the ? Blocks above provide a sense of mystery. "What happens if I touch it?" Punching the first block produces a Coin, which gives the player a sense of reward. The next one, though, spawns a Super Mushroom, which is shaped identically to the Goomba. The player tries to defeat it like before, but instead is surprised to discover that it made Mario grow instead. And if they get hit while in this state, Mario will just shrink back down to normal size instead of dying. This immediately tells the player that all objects that come out of blocks are good things.
    And all that is in the first 100 metres of World 1-1!

    • @Jackattack359
      @Jackattack359 4 роки тому +1

      But you can still learn if you try

    • @jaredargento1511
      @jaredargento1511 9 місяців тому

      @@Jackattack359 But the fact that you have to do that, in my opinion, really goes against the idea that first impressions matter.

    • @Jackattack359
      @Jackattack359 9 місяців тому

      @@jaredargento1511 so you’re saying that you expect to be instantly good at a game the minute you start playing for the first time? How does that work?

    • @jaredargento1511
      @jaredargento1511 9 місяців тому

      @@Jackattack359 I’m not saying I have to be good at a game from the start. I’m saying that a game should still sufficiently nudge you along, so that you’re still having more fun than not on your first playthrough. To me, even if I’m not good at a game on my first playthrough, I should still be enjoying myself, which I very much wasn’t with most retro games I’ve played, including Sonic CD.

    • @Jackattack359
      @Jackattack359 9 місяців тому

      @@jaredargento1511 what exactly does that have to do with learning how a game works? Would that be happening before or after you learn how it works. Hate to say it man, but these are pretty arbitrary standards that you have set yourself

  • @eurovisioncyan9550
    @eurovisioncyan9550 6 років тому +4

    Congrats on 100k subs!

  • @a_person5668
    @a_person5668 4 роки тому +3

    The time travel mechanic would be better in literally any other sonic game, a sonic game where the levels don’t just feel like fun colors and shapes the game

    • @jaredargento1511
      @jaredargento1511 3 роки тому

      You’ve been watching Scott the Woz, haven’t you?

    • @demetriuskafkoulas5005
      @demetriuskafkoulas5005 3 роки тому

      Given how the time travel mechanic is implemented into Sonic CD with the time posts and needing to find a place to run for a long enough period, I'd have to strongly disagree. Have you seen how the other classics lay out their levels? Sure, they're not as clumsy and incoherent in design as most of Sonic CD's levels, but they'd never work well with time travel. Constant sharp and linear declines like in Chemical Plant zone, Marble Garden zone, and Hydrocity zone, an extreme lack of being able to backtrack for the vast majority of zones, some levels that just never have high speed moments at all, and roads and terrain that go up and down and all around that never keep your speed for that long. Now imagine trying to pull off time travel in these stages and then try to explore for a machine generator hidden somewhere in the level. I bet that there would be, at a maximum, 4 zones in Sonic 1, 2, and 3K combined that it would be possible. Say what you want about Sonic CD's levels; I won't argue over the quality of the layouts and obstacle placements, but at least the game made it so that no matter where you were, you could still possibly get a good future by time travel and destroying that generator (even if some levels rely too much on high speed freebies for you to time travel).

  • @ThisisKyle
    @ThisisKyle 4 роки тому

    I liked playing Sonic CD before I knew how to work the sign post and complete the game. Now that I know how the game works it's right up there with my favorite Sonic game

  • @TheEncoreHedgehog
    @TheEncoreHedgehog 2 місяці тому +1

    Yeah I kind of didn't like it at first, until I LOVED it! :D

  • @starrynight2963
    @starrynight2963 6 років тому +1

    i love the early stages because it definitely actually helps you guide through it while the later levels can be fun (most of the time) i never found it a bad game it's just flawed

  • @ev3rst0rm-g1g
    @ev3rst0rm-g1g 6 років тому +1

    I respect your opinion man. What do you think about ign’s claim that CD is the ONLY good sonic game?

  • @sophiamalcolm2119
    @sophiamalcolm2119 5 років тому

    Some of these patreon backers have become legends at this point.
    Erik Flinn and LezLamb are almost as well known as Gamechamp himself.

  • @ske3bs170
    @ske3bs170 6 років тому +3

    Also congrats on 100k subs

  • @CyanicCore
    @CyanicCore 6 років тому

    I was a lot like you when my father downloaded it off the Amazon app store. Back then I didn't even like sonic, and just saw it as a running game. Ultimately I ended up stuck on stardust speedway for a long while. I couldn't appreciate anything about it until I recently got past metal sonic and made other playthroughs. I saw a huge difference in design and premise, and enjoyed every run (besides trying to get the timestones, I can't do that for Sonic's extra life).

  • @PrexCannon
    @PrexCannon 5 років тому

    I still liked the game regardless If I was playing it correctly or not.
    I played it as a kid with the Gems collection and was captivated by the presentation alone, the theme of the levels and the music that went along with them was enough to make me love the game.

  • @TehRealSalt
    @TehRealSalt 6 років тому +7

    I love this video! The game's really divisive nowadays because of the emphasis on exploration. It caters specifically to the people who play Sonic to explore levels by using the momentum to your advantage for platforming. Sonic 3 & Knuckles balances around ALL playstyles, so that's why it's more well-loved and more deserving of the "best Sonic game" title. Personally, I play ALL of the Sonic games to explore like that, so if you're anything like me, then you'll love it more than any other Sonic game.

    • @jaredargento1511
      @jaredargento1511 9 місяців тому

      My problem is that you can only actually get something out of CD’s exploration by traveling to the past, which requires going fast for around five seconds straight, which CD’s levels, being more exploration-focused, don’t really lend themselves to; so do you see the problem here?

  • @DeliaESymbols
    @DeliaESymbols 5 років тому +3

    I've always loved Sonic CD.

  • @migbarr3806
    @migbarr3806 4 роки тому +3

    I had a Sega CD along with Sonic CD.
    I also had the Japanese soundtrack.
    I would load the game and switch disks and play the American games with the Japanese soundtrack

  • @AndroidHarris
    @AndroidHarris 4 роки тому +1

    Been playing all the sonic classics for the first time and got this game recently and it's definitely rivaling my favorite sonic game sonic 2 right now it's really good.

  • @combativeThinker
    @combativeThinker 6 років тому +1

    Sonic: "Tails, we have to go...back to the future!"

  • @acelyasummer422
    @acelyasummer422 6 років тому +1

    What Sega should have done was make the big ring available only after you make the good future first. Then players wanting to get all the time stones for the good ending will be more naturally compelled to play it in an exploratory manner. The 50 ring requirement is way easier and makes it too tempting to bypass the other method.

    • @tonyhakston536
      @tonyhakston536 6 років тому +1

      Giving every stage a Good Future already gets you the good ending, though.

  • @Palacexwater
    @Palacexwater 2 місяці тому

    At first when I played this game for the first time and it was the first Sonic game I played I saw the game on the play store and downloaded it I was very happy to know that (because I didn't really know about the existence of device versions)I was just on UA-cam watching people playing games, I was fascinated and wanted to play too but one day I discovered games I downloaded the first one that came in front of me, which was Sonic CD When I played I felt a very high sense of joy and happiness because I was finally playing a Sonic game And I played the game I had a lot of fun But I confess that I was confused the first time playing the game But after a while I got used to it and fell in love with the game and it's still my favorite from the 2D era of Sonic games. ❤

  • @JerryAsano
    @JerryAsano 6 років тому +1

    So will you do a “Can you beat Doom without using a single weapon” run?

  • @mr.whimsic6902
    @mr.whimsic6902 6 років тому +1

    Congrats on getting 1 Million Subs in 2019!

  • @MrRager-mh5gf
    @MrRager-mh5gf 5 років тому

    I played this on PC growing up. The best part of this game is the intro video.

  • @BoredRalsei
    @BoredRalsei 6 років тому +1

    Good job on 100K!

  • @FrenchFriesAreGud111
    @FrenchFriesAreGud111 6 років тому +1

    100k Congrats

  • @shed7319
    @shed7319 6 років тому +1

    Congrats on 100k!

  • @screwdriver1996
    @screwdriver1996 6 років тому

    When I first played the early 2D Sonic games I didn't like them at all. But now when I'm much older I really enjoy them. One of the reasons might have been that the early Sonic games were pretty difficult compared to other platformers at the time they came out.

  • @NitnerockBobarr
    @NitnerockBobarr 6 років тому +1

    I like explenations about fun value of a misunderstood game. It's a very good video concept. :)

  • @rewrose2838
    @rewrose2838 6 років тому +5

    Hey champ, have you tried _Ori And The Blind Forest_ ? It's a lovely story told through a challenging platform!
    Btw when you say you wanna play all video games, do you include stuff like Pokemon, Digimon, Yu-Gi-Oh etc too?

    • @Gamechamp3000
      @Gamechamp3000  6 років тому +2

      I've yet to play Ori, but I probably will at some point.
      See next week's video to find out the answer to the second question. B]

  • @AlexLorentzenloganjamesalex
    @AlexLorentzenloganjamesalex 2 роки тому

    It sold over 1.5 million copies globally on the Sega CD. That means a handful of people owned one. Also I'm sure someone has mentioned it but the Metal Sonic hologram is just another thing to find and destroy in the past for 100% completion, not required for a good future but it restores harmless animals to all time periods of the level when destroyed. The level after you fight Metal Sonic is the only one that has robot generators but no Metal Sonic hologram. There is an achievement to destroy it in every level along with the robot generator in some editions of the game, which requires you not to collect the time stones as collecting the final stone causes robot generators and Metal Sonic holograms to be already destroyed at the start of the level.

  • @GavyWavvy
    @GavyWavvy 6 років тому +1

    you know i too have been playing sonic cd like a classic sonic game all this time too maybe i should give this play style a try next time i play it

  • @HeliosLeinheart
    @HeliosLeinheart 6 років тому

    Have you done voiceover for something? I feel like I've heard you in old Gamestop commercials.

    • @Gamechamp3000
      @Gamechamp3000  6 років тому

      Nope! But I can't say ludicrously over-enunciated commercials weren't a big inspiration.

  • @ToastedJp0
    @ToastedJp0 6 років тому +1

    I love u gamechamp good job on making 100k

  • @dawn2955
    @dawn2955 6 років тому +2

    Sonic CD is my favorite Sonic game of all time

  • @cliffturbo2146
    @cliffturbo2146 6 років тому +1

    The legend say, if a UA-camr get 100K subscribes, they were destined to get them.

  • @pigcatapult
    @pigcatapult 6 років тому

    I played this on my grandma's computer and the UFO levels always glitched out on me. They'd vanish out from under me 95% of the time when I jumped at them and I had no idea it wasn't supposed to do that until I watched someone play it on UA-cam like 20 years later

    • @mariannmariann2052
      @mariannmariann2052 6 років тому

      Yeah, the collision boxes for the UFOs are quite hard to hit.

  • @Andrew_G4CH
    @Andrew_G4CH 6 років тому +1

    Iiiiiiinteresting....... I think I need to go back and try Sonic CD again.....

  • @invisi.
    @invisi. 6 років тому +1

    100,008 subs. Dude. You’re the fucking best.

  • @jp7358
    @jp7358 6 років тому

    I have this game on my pc and I've never understood how to play it, so I've uninstalled it. Like you've said, maybe I should read the instructions and see how to actually have fun with the game...

  • @siegfriedfinal343
    @siegfriedfinal343 6 років тому +8

    Harvey Dent....can we trust him?

    • @DrMcMoist
      @DrMcMoist 6 років тому

      Siegfried Final I believe in Harvey Dent.

  • @YoshiLikesFate
    @YoshiLikesFate 3 роки тому

    You gotta love the hue in Stardust Speedway

  • @derrickbiedermann9802
    @derrickbiedermann9802 5 років тому

    Seeing this, I feel like Gamechamp should do a VGMyth video where he beats doom with only punching.

  • @randomguy5272
    @randomguy5272 6 років тому +1

    I still enjoyed CD even when playing it like a regular Sonic game.

  • @alyson6120
    @alyson6120 6 років тому +1

    Congrats on 100k but you deserve 100,000,000,

  • @Shadowslash1
    @Shadowslash1 5 років тому

    Yeah, I played it back in the day on PC, got it around the same time as Sonic and Knuckles collection (Both for PC mind ya [It was weird when I heard the Genesis Music for Carnival night/Ice Cap/Launch Base/Knuckles theme and I like the PC tracks better personally]). During those days, I would read the manual when I was waiting for my turn to use the computer, but I didn't realize (at first) that there was a robot teleporter in every level. I thought the time post were to bounce back and forth between the past, present and future to mix things up. It wasn't until after I played it for a while did I find out the good future on the boss fights thing, as I just thought you had to take out some enemies in the future and past in some mix.
    I personally think the only correct way to play anything is where ya have fun. Mind ya, I do get your meaning though, that once you figured out the gimmick in the game and that it was a different twist from the other Sonic games it came alive for you. I'm glad you were able to enjoy it, I did love the Easter Egg if you don't move Sonic for I think 2 mins or so and he just bails =D

  • @silviox8637
    @silviox8637 3 роки тому

    Same thing happened to me lol. I didn't hated it but I also didn't love it. But after I understood what I was doing... It became one of my favourites sonic games and my favourite 2D sonic game ever.

  • @RapidFireRetro
    @RapidFireRetro 6 років тому

    Exact same here, used to think it was the worst 2D Sonic, now I think it's the best of all the Sonic games behind Mania and 3&Knuckles.