It may also be the player. As the player gets older, it can't play certain dvds. You can test this by playing the same disk in your blu ray player. The blu ray can play them better.
There's a huge swath of titles from WB that were pressed at a plant in PA, and they did not follow the proper procedure and now they are ALL rotting. Damn Fool Idealistic Crusader has 2 videos about it
Disc rot is an extremely rare thing, I have well over 1000 movies and only one stopped working. To be honest with you it looks like you don’t know how to handle your disc, buffing a movie should be a last resort if it doesn’t work, because once you scratch the first layer of a DVD you are potentially putting cracks in the protective coating that will allow air to get in and rot your disc overtime.
I have well over a thousand discs of dvds and blu rays and not one of them look like this. I've been collecting for over 20 years. I also think this guy is doing something critically wrong.
@@billwilliams4247 agreed every movies I own looks exactly the same day as I purchased them. I’ve taken such good care of them and over 20+ years I’ve been collecting movies only one didn’t work, It was a Blu-ray That somehow was probably manufactured incorrectly because it stopped working like six months after I purchased it. People claiming they’re having problems seriously need to learn how to handle their disc properly.
You are both being blinded by your own experiences, just because it hasn’t happened to you doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. To claim this guy could be doing something really wrong is stupid. I’ve had the same experience has this guy on a number of disc that look perfectly fine but refuse to play. Do a little research guys, this is a real issue that more than a few people have experienced.
@@holydado I don’t know how to make this any simpler for you. DVD have a protective layer. If you buff it and remove that protective layer, your disc is more prone to things like disc rot because air will get in to it. Judging from the video where he’s showing his DVDs, it is very clear. He does not know how to handle them. You don’t have to take my word for it go ask any person that is a serious movie collector or music collector CDs they’re all gonna tell you what I just said. If you handle your disc correctly, it can last anywhere from 50 to 100 years.
@@michaeldietz2648 The data layer is sandwiched in between 2 layers of poly-carbonate. You would have to remove a significant amount of material before you start to expose the data layer. I would expect this guy only buffed these discs in an attempt to get them to work. Chemical instability in the data layer or de-lamination of the layers significant enough to allow for oxidation of the data layer are the most likely causes of disc rot.
Clayton, THANKS For Trying to Inform ! From the sounds of it most of your exanples appear to be manufacturing defects. Problems encountered in the middle of the movie are from reading the middle tracks of the metal ring as the main feature is recorded on the disc from the inner circle to the edge. Nice of you the show the typical appearance of the rotting metal recording layer as it starts. Other than for the purposes of this video, what reason is there to keep "rotten" freature? When you buff a disc do you use the same micro size for all types of disc such as CD, DVD, & Blu-Ray? I had used an inexpwnsive machine to remove scratches from used DVDs, but it consumed too much time and gave up as it was not worth the effort.
I have several DVD's, not just WB, that not a fingerprint or scratch on them, won't play properly any longer. So the term is "disc rot", huh? I have used several players, some older ones will work better, but some are just lost. This happened to many of my "Battlestar Galactica" reboot DVD's (Universal) bought season by season; and there is not a streaming alternative for the show. Nothing like taking mint care of my DVD collection and it just goes down all on its own. I still much prefer physical media over streaming ("Opps! Something went wrong!"}, but setting down to relax and watch an old DVD and it freezing up is a good way to get riled up instead of enjoying the movie.
I have the exact same WB snapcase cardboard DVD release of TRAINING DAY. No visual damage, but it doesn't read the disc for about 15-20minutes after halfway of the movie. It will try reading and skip about full 20minutes ahead. Regardless of players I tested :D Disc looks minty and shiny no scratches. Shame, cause I kinda think those cardboard snapcases are kinda neat. Can't remember if I had another of those doesn't work. But, I've heard particularly those releases have the most problems.
I have 600 snapcase DVDs and I haven't had a single issue with playing any of them. I had one that was badly scratched but I was able to get a replacement online.
Doesn't always work. Old severe oxidation (or other chemical contamination) of the metal recording surface will be visible to the naked eye. Visual inspection of "previous viewed" discs is still recommended for any damage to the plastic protective layer the laser reads through. And some plastics also turn yellow on DVDs which can block laser light when it becmes dark.
Yes it is much like buffing. However with higher density discs, like Blu-Ray and 4K Blu-Ray, the "paste grit" or abrasive needs to be as fine as possible.
@@artyfhartie2269 wouldn't think fine polish of toothpaste would remove enough plastic to make even a very light scratch disappear. You're right about being careful - just like cleaning a disc use radial movements.
Looking at all the discs in the video, you appear to be using a disc doctor or something like it to repair your discs. I would suggest not using that as it actually creates permanent damage to the protective coating on the discs.
@@gumdroplandfilms Yes, I do use a disc buffing wheel and cleaning solution on them. I don't use it often unless a disc messes up or is heavily scratched. I also avoid doing it too much since it can damage them further. Most of them I plan on replacing at some point.
@@ClaytonCaplinger for sure. I can tell by the pattern it leaves on the bottom. Never a good thing when they do that. Disc rot is rare and usually not the issue. Sometime the player itself has problems reading when they get older. I tend to use a game system that also plays Blu ray for my dvd’s. I also very rarely see disc rot in the thousands of discs I deal with every year at my shop. It’s rare, but I have seen it. It usually makes the bottom have a darker hue towards the edges of the disc.
I would honestly love to break down your video because none of your examples are disc rot. I do have some great examples in my collection and believe it or not, the early blu rays were kinda worse when it came to disc rot.
@@gumdroplandfilms I admit the discs I showed could be in much worse shape, their appearance and playing condition certainly made me think they had early rot. They will not work in my Sony blu ray player or my PC.
I have over 1000 DVDs/blurays and I've only ever had one disc rot on me. This issue is nowhere near as common as the video makes it out to be. I even have dollar store DVDs from 20 years ago that still play just fine!
One of my Val Lewton double features DVDs from Warners rotted and won't play past the logos. The crummy part is that one film, "I Walked With a Zombie," is not available on HD yet and I no longer own my laserdisc copy. Fortunately the other is on BD. I have only one other disc in my collection that rotted: "Trinity and Beyond," which won't even make it past the intro before breaking up into blocking and freezing up.
With the whole disc rot..... I get around it 2 ways..... 1. I make a digital file for myself 1st.... and 2. I make two additional copies on dvds immediately after the digital copy to counter the rot if that happens (but I like thinking ahead for those worse case scenario's)..... and I never had any issues since..... if the dvd rot happens I still keep the original to show I still have the original before switching to the dvd's exclusively.... that way I can prove the videos are mine and original.... the rotted disc I put in a sealed zip lock bag in the dvd covert use the recorded disc's exclusively....... sometime a few extra steps saves a lot of time trying to recover a lifetime of collecting something that are not readily available down the road
@@holydado who says that you have to do the whole complete disc..... just take what you need...... if it's the movie then take the movie only..... if you want to add special features add that also..... skies the limit and each one of us has a different approach...... I only need the movie and special features..... and I am happy
the terminator 1984 original MGM cardboard DVD has issues with "disc rot" just found out myself with a sealed 2x DVD from ebay. it's a physical media collector's nightmare.
Looking at your European Vacation disc, I can see that it has been buffed poorly. At some point in the past someone used a disc doctor on it. You can see the pattern in the light. Very bad for discs and it appears that most of the wear is focused near the center ring where the disc starts reading from. In my opinion, not discs rot, but definitely has wear in the places that are vital to it’s functionality. I have several disc rotted discs in my collection, but they all have a certain hue to bottom of the disc. I also have a couple of thousand dollar disc resurfacing machines that will make discs look new. Not sure what you are using. You may need to show your process of buffing discs if you haven’t already. I own a video store and deal with disc repair for customers every day and I am just trying to help. Disc rot is a real thing, but that’s not always the issue.
I got out my Interview with the Vampire, cause it was a box case like in the video, played about half thru and it froze. I think that is the only box case like that that I have.
I tested around 50 Plus DVDs s from Warner Brothers. None of them play at this point I stopped collecting physical media I give away everything I had it was just a waste of money
Yah that sounds like BS, how much is giant movie studios paying you to spread misinformation to try and get people on the streaming??? I have well over 1000 movies and they all work perfectly fine only one movie didn’t work in 20 years. 
Okay so Warner is the only one that I heard had has a big problem. Why is that a reason to get rid of all of your movies. Also this isn't a problem with Blu-rays that I know of. And with me personally I haven't had any problem with my Warner DVD so far. If all 50 of your Warner movies were bad I'm wondering where you keeping them in a garage?
@@theantagonizer958 From what I have heard that is something that can be done depending on which discs you have. It does not matter to me much since I plan on replacing some of my dvds at some point.
i have a few warner bros' cardboard snapper case from the early 200s, and those are one of the best quality discs i have. but mine is region 3, so i guess the quality and standard for these discs, even from the same studio, is not uniformed or properly standardized in all regions... 😞
i have experienced this with my 4 favorites dvds my dirty hairy 4 favorites dvds(other than the first one) freeze at certain parts my clint eastwood 4 favorites comedies also freeze i pirated all of these because i feel like i was ripped off. if i pay for a movie it should last. i shouldn't have to pay for another copy that will most likely rot.
Fun fact: If you own an original copy of something (such as you with your Dirty Harry dvds) it's 100% legal to download a "backup" for yourself, thus it _isn't_ "pirating" !
Maybe at yard sales. All the thrift stores are charging 2 to 3 dollars. And regular used stores charge 5 to 8 dollars. And if it's a rare title it can be anywhere from 15, 20 to even 50 on eBay. There was a time where you could get them for a dollar regularly but they're becoming more collectible apparently.
Not to that extent.....I have hundreds of DVDs and only two discs are affected by "disc rot" or manufacturing defects. Both of them were special editions of "Terminator" and "Silence of the lambs" by MGM.....these are the two that I'm at least aware of. But in the US it seems to be a huge problem....but not in europe....at least not yet.
Might be better off using a DVD recorder and copying the movie off a pre-recorded VHS tape. I've had good results doing this. The quality is pretty good.
@@dlarge6502 The Warner Bros titles I mentioned are probably streamed on Max since it is a subsidiary of that company. Braveheart is probably on Paramount + since it is a Paramount release. Public Enemies is likely on Peacock since it is owned by Universal. Lastly, I'm not sure who owns the streaming rights to Before And After since Hollywood Pictures is defunct.
It may also be the player. As the player gets older, it can't play certain dvds. You can test this by playing the same disk in your blu ray player. The blu ray can play them better.
There's a huge swath of titles from WB that were pressed at a plant in PA, and they did not follow the proper procedure and now they are ALL rotting.
Damn Fool Idealistic Crusader has 2 videos about it
Disc rot is an extremely rare thing, I have well over 1000 movies and only one stopped working. To be honest with you it looks like you don’t know how to handle your disc, buffing a movie should be a last resort if it doesn’t work, because once you scratch the first layer of a DVD you are potentially putting cracks in the protective coating that will allow air to get in and rot your disc overtime.
I have well over a thousand discs of dvds and blu rays and not one of them look like this. I've been collecting for over 20 years. I also think this guy is doing something critically wrong.
@@billwilliams4247 agreed every movies I own looks exactly the same day as I purchased them. I’ve taken such good care of them and over 20+ years I’ve been collecting movies only one didn’t work, It was a Blu-ray That somehow was probably manufactured incorrectly because it stopped working like six months after I purchased it. People claiming they’re having problems seriously need to learn how to handle their disc properly.
You are both being blinded by your own experiences, just because it hasn’t happened to you doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. To claim this guy could be doing something really wrong is stupid. I’ve had the same experience has this guy on a number of disc that look perfectly fine but refuse to play. Do a little research guys, this is a real issue that more than a few people have experienced.
@@holydado I don’t know how to make this any simpler for you. DVD have a protective layer. If you buff it and remove that protective layer, your disc is more prone to things like disc rot because air will get in to it. Judging from the video where he’s showing his DVDs, it is very clear. He does not know how to handle them. You don’t have to take my word for it go ask any person that is a serious movie collector or music collector CDs they’re all gonna tell you what I just said. If you handle your disc correctly, it can last anywhere from 50 to 100 years.
@@michaeldietz2648 The data layer is sandwiched in between 2 layers of poly-carbonate. You would have to remove a significant amount of material before you start to expose the data layer. I would expect this guy only buffed these discs in an attempt to get them to work.
Chemical instability in the data layer or de-lamination of the layers significant enough to allow for oxidation of the data layer are the most likely causes of disc rot.
Clayton, THANKS For Trying to Inform !
From the sounds of it most of your exanples appear to be manufacturing defects. Problems encountered in the middle of the movie are from reading the middle tracks of the metal ring as the main feature is recorded on the disc from the inner circle to the edge.
Nice of you the show the typical appearance of the rotting metal recording layer as it starts.
Other than for the purposes of this video, what reason is there to keep "rotten" freature?
When you buff a disc do you use the same micro size for all types of disc such as CD, DVD, & Blu-Ray? I had used an inexpwnsive machine to remove scratches from used DVDs, but it consumed too much time and gave up as it was not worth the effort.
I have several DVD's, not just WB, that not a fingerprint or scratch on them, won't play properly any longer. So the term is "disc rot", huh? I have used several players, some older ones will work better, but some are just lost. This happened to many of my "Battlestar Galactica" reboot DVD's (Universal) bought season by season; and there is not a streaming alternative for the show. Nothing like taking mint care of my DVD collection and it just goes down all on its own. I still much prefer physical media over streaming ("Opps! Something went wrong!"}, but setting down to relax and watch an old DVD and it freezing up is a good way to get riled up instead of enjoying the movie.
Now I'm worried about my older dvds😧
buffing and buffering are two different things.
Calm down sparky, he misspoke
I have the exact same WB snapcase cardboard DVD release of TRAINING DAY. No visual damage, but it doesn't read the disc for about 15-20minutes after halfway of the movie. It will try reading and skip about full 20minutes ahead. Regardless of players I tested :D Disc looks minty and shiny no scratches. Shame, cause I kinda think those cardboard snapcases are kinda neat. Can't remember if I had another of those doesn't work. But, I've heard particularly those releases have the most problems.
I have 600 snapcase DVDs and I haven't had a single issue with playing any of them. I had one that was badly scratched but I was able to get a replacement online.
I have my Warner Brothers DVDs for 20 years and it still work
That's why I always check them before I buy them
Me Too.
@@wonderjadden6929 even with the vhs tapes
Doesn't always work.
Old severe oxidation (or other chemical contamination) of the metal recording surface will be visible to the naked eye.
Visual inspection of "previous viewed" discs is still recommended for any damage to the plastic protective layer the laser reads through. And some plastics also turn yellow on DVDs which can block laser light when it becmes dark.
I’ve had sealed DVDs have this issue
If its WB ask them in a email to replace them. They will replace it for free regardless of reciept just say you dont have it.
I'll give it a shot
Sometimes a surface scratch will stop the disc from playing. In the past, rental stores used to fix them in a machine which used a paste
Yes it is much like buffing.
However with higher density discs, like Blu-Ray and 4K Blu-Ray, the "paste grit" or abrasive needs to be as fine as possible.
@@weldonyoung1013 Some use a little toootpaste on cotton buds and rub gently under water. You need to know what you are doing though
@@artyfhartie2269 wouldn't think fine polish of toothpaste would remove enough plastic to make even a very light scratch disappear.
You're right about being careful - just like cleaning a disc use radial movements.
@@weldonyoung1013 If toothpaste can clean enamel on teeth, it can remove scratches on plastic and more
Looking at all the discs in the video, you appear to be using a disc doctor or something like it to repair your discs. I would suggest not using that as it actually creates permanent damage to the protective coating on the discs.
@@gumdroplandfilms Yes, I do use a disc buffing wheel and cleaning solution on them. I don't use it often unless a disc messes up or is heavily scratched. I also avoid doing it too much since it can damage them further. Most of them I plan on replacing at some point.
@@ClaytonCaplinger for sure. I can tell by the pattern it leaves on the bottom. Never a good thing when they do that. Disc rot is rare and usually not the issue. Sometime the player itself has problems reading when they get older. I tend to use a game system that also plays Blu ray for my dvd’s. I also very rarely see disc rot in the thousands of discs I deal with every year at my shop. It’s rare, but I have seen it. It usually makes the bottom have a darker hue towards the edges of the disc.
I would honestly love to break down your video because none of your examples are disc rot. I do have some great examples in my collection and believe it or not, the early blu rays were kinda worse when it came to disc rot.
@@gumdroplandfilms I admit the discs I showed could be in much worse shape, their appearance and playing condition certainly made me think they had early rot. They will not work in my Sony blu ray player or my PC.
I replaced a lot of my dvds with Blu-ray’s and 4Ks.
Now I'm happy that I've replaced most of my favorites on Blu-ray and 4K.
I haven't had issues with my DVDs though.
HD-DVD I have 2 movies from Warner Brothers. 1. Matrix HD-DVD 2. Under siege hd-dvd. Both rot
I have over 1000 DVDs/blurays and I've only ever had one disc rot on me. This issue is nowhere near as common as the video makes it out to be. I even have dollar store DVDs from 20 years ago that still play just fine!
Not true for everyone, I too have a few thousand and probably have about 30 or so with this issue.
@@holydado are they Warner bros?
One of my Val Lewton double features DVDs from Warners rotted and won't play past the logos. The crummy part is that one film, "I Walked With a Zombie," is not available on HD yet and I no longer own my laserdisc copy. Fortunately the other is on BD. I have only one other disc in my collection that rotted: "Trinity and Beyond," which won't even make it past the intro before breaking up into blocking and freezing up.
Try a demo of Leawosoft Prof Media to copy the DVD i have had good success with the app with discs that have disc rot.
With the whole disc rot..... I get around it 2 ways..... 1. I make a digital file for myself 1st.... and 2. I make two additional copies on dvds immediately after the digital copy to counter the rot if that happens (but I like thinking ahead for those worse case scenario's)..... and I never had any issues since..... if the dvd rot happens I still keep the original to show I still have the original before switching to the dvd's exclusively.... that way I can prove the videos are mine and original.... the rotted disc I put in a sealed zip lock bag in the dvd covert use the recorded disc's exclusively....... sometime a few extra steps saves a lot of time trying to recover a lifetime of collecting something that are not readily available down the road
I’ve tried doing what you’ve suggested, a lot of time the computer will refuse to copy the complete disc.
@@holydado who says that you have to do the whole complete disc..... just take what you need...... if it's the movie then take the movie only..... if you want to add special features add that also..... skies the limit and each one of us has a different approach...... I only need the movie and special features..... and I am happy
the terminator 1984 original MGM cardboard DVD has issues with "disc rot" just found out myself with a sealed 2x DVD from ebay. it's a physical media collector's nightmare.
I thought that it was just the WB 2006 thru 2009 cardboard case releases that were dry-rot casualties?
The cardboard discs don’t have disc but they do skip it’s been a ongoing thing on its own
Looking at your European Vacation disc, I can see that it has been buffed poorly. At some point in the past someone used a disc doctor on it. You can see the pattern in the light. Very bad for discs and it appears that most of the wear is focused near the center ring where the disc starts reading from. In my opinion, not discs rot, but definitely has wear in the places that are vital to it’s functionality. I have several disc rotted discs in my collection, but they all have a certain hue to bottom of the disc. I also have a couple of thousand dollar disc resurfacing machines that will make discs look new. Not sure what you are using. You may need to show your process of buffing discs if you haven’t already. I own a video store and deal with disc repair for customers every day and I am just trying to help. Disc rot is a real thing, but that’s not always the issue.
My WB dvds from early 00's are ok, these are Region 4 made in Mexico.
I agree that most of the WB discs I have are made in Mexico however, these discs are region 1 rather than 4 or else they would not run in my player.
I got out my Interview with the Vampire, cause it was a box case like in the video, played about half thru and it froze. I think that is the only box case like that that I have.
Not as bad as brainrot.
Yep you better not listen to too Much rock and roll 😂
Most of these are fairly cheap on blu-ray.
I tested around 50 Plus DVDs s from Warner Brothers. None of them play at this point I stopped collecting physical media I give away everything I had it was just a waste of money
I've never heard of much issue outside of Warner releases.
Personally i think i would've kept everything except warner
Yah that sounds like BS, how much is giant movie studios paying you to spread misinformation to try and get people on the streaming??? I have well over 1000 movies and they all work perfectly fine only one movie didn’t work in 20 years. 
@@michaeldietz2648 💯
Okay so Warner is the only one that I heard had has a big problem.
Why is that a reason to get rid of all of your movies.
Also this isn't a problem with Blu-rays that I know of.
And with me personally I haven't had any problem with my Warner DVD so far.
If all 50 of your Warner movies were bad I'm wondering where you keeping them in a garage?
My definition, if Warner Brothers DVDs are bad, so are MGM and RKO. This involves thousands of movies.
Can you return these discs to the company’s and get a replacement if the movies are still in print
@@theantagonizer958 From what I have heard that is something that can be done depending on which discs you have. It does not matter to me much since I plan on replacing some of my dvds at some point.
i have a few warner bros' cardboard snapper case from the early 200s, and those are one of the best quality discs i have. but mine is region 3, so i guess the quality and standard for these discs, even from the same studio, is not uniformed or properly standardized in all regions... 😞
They were made in a different country and factory....that's why.
I haven’t had problems with Warner bros but I had it with FOX /mgm
I don’t have that issue
with some discs can just happen overtime. Used to see it all the time when I was collecting laserdiscs.
i have experienced this with my 4 favorites dvds
my dirty hairy 4 favorites dvds(other than the first one) freeze at certain parts
my clint eastwood 4 favorites comedies also freeze
i pirated all of these because i feel like i was ripped off. if i pay for a movie it should last. i shouldn't have to pay for another copy that will most likely rot.
Fun fact: If you own an original copy of something (such as you with your Dirty Harry dvds) it's 100% legal to download a "backup" for yourself, thus it _isn't_ "pirating" !
@@UMAMIMAMU That's actually not true.
But i don't feel he's wrong for doing so
I start collecting my DVDs in 2003 they not stretch or broke I I had them over 20 years
the only good thing about dvd's are that people are basically giving them away. you can get them for literal pennies.
Maybe at yard sales. All the thrift stores are charging 2 to 3 dollars. And regular used stores charge 5 to 8 dollars.
And if it's a rare title it can be anywhere from 15, 20 to even 50 on eBay.
There was a time where you could get them for a dollar regularly but they're becoming more collectible apparently.
are european PAL dvds suffering from this?
Not to that extent.....I have hundreds of DVDs and only two discs are affected by "disc rot" or manufacturing defects.
Both of them were special editions of "Terminator" and "Silence of the lambs" by MGM.....these are the two that I'm at least aware of.
But in the US it seems to be a huge problem....but not in europe....at least not yet.
That’s not disc rot bro
My exorcist 3 still work Mars attacks all snapper case
I also have Exorcist 3 and it still works. I don't have a copy of Mars Attacks.
@@ClaytonCaplinger my John Carpenter fog it got disc rotten but it's still play
Thanks for the fear porn! Please take better care of your disc!
Might be better off using a DVD recorder and copying the movie off a pre-recorded VHS tape. I've had good results doing this. The quality is pretty good.
Just stream it
I have a Roku but my wifi is unreliable at times.
Ok genius, where would you stream each of these, right now?
@@dlarge6502 The Warner Bros titles I mentioned are probably streamed on Max since it is a subsidiary of that company. Braveheart is probably on Paramount + since it is a Paramount release. Public Enemies is likely on Peacock since it is owned by Universal. Lastly, I'm not sure who owns the streaming rights to Before And After since Hollywood Pictures is defunct.