Lifting, that's a Good Trick - Scrapyard Survival #7

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  • @UfoLBeerSeeker
    @UfoLBeerSeeker 3 місяці тому +181

    From a licensed forklift driver, trying to unreasonably compare your creation to reallife counterbalance truck:
    Hinges would be the first, at the base of the mast, not last in subgrid chain.
    Pistons definitely with gap between. While we rarely have clang in our trucks, we still need to see what is in front. That's where gap comes handy. (You could try reducing both impulse forces on one of the pistons so it fights less, just in case. Inertia tensors? I hate to use it, but sometimes its a must.)
    Counterbalance in real trucks is made of huge solid chunk of metal hanging beyond rear wheels. I'd suggest trying couple 1x1 cargos filled with iron ingot, or gravel (we're happy to provide conversion with our assembler). This would make it potentially much heavier than batteries. And let you keep most of the weight close to the ground, use two baby batteries under the seat, making entire thing less prone to tipping.
    Forklifts are typically using rear wheel steering - helps manoeuvring around tight places with load in front.
    Also rear wheel have near 90 degree turn range, so maybe it would be worth trying a subgrid wheel? There was some scripts designed for this type of steering.
    Another thing with real forklifts is no travel on suspension - tyres are solid and suspension is rigid. You do not want wobble or your load to squish your suspension unevenly.
    Try look up "variable reach forklift" for some alternate design idea that may or may not serve you better. Or at least give some inspiration. I dropped pic in discord as well.
    Hopefully you can take something useful from those examples. If not, i am still excited to see more of spinning ballet ;)
    And you made me do completely new sound when you've launched yourself with hinge limits. 10/10 xD

    • @Splitsie
      @Splitsie  3 місяці тому +47

      Lol forgetting rotor locks is the babe of my time on servers 😂
      I like your idea of the variable reach forklift and I think it might be more stable given se limitations.
      I did keep rear wheel steering on full, but with previous designs found having a little on the front wheels helped me line up better, not sure why though. I'll also make sure to keep the suspension more rigid with the next test

    • @Zarder10
      @Zarder10 3 місяці тому +31

      @@Splitsie from going 8+ hour shifts on a forklift to driving a car home always wigged me out going from rear to front steering, since SE doesn't do 90 degree steering like a forklift i'd imagine the front steering will help with the swing of the front end. Like UFoL said as for SE subgrids, your tilt does the entire mast, then lifting then sideshift. and 100% on the no suspension, the most suspension i've ever had with a forklift is using a 12 tonne forklift and that was in the seat lmao

    • @cabbageplays6710
      @cabbageplays6710 3 місяці тому +12

      Been driving FLTs for 20 years myself now, and everything UfoL has said is true and very good advise. But with the limits of SE, i think having the hinges last is a better idea, you dont want to add more to what the hinges have to lift, so having them last makes more sense, in my opinion. Pistons are just stronger than hinges in SE.

    • @60550685
      @60550685 3 місяці тому +3

      I do agree with both of them. I highly recommend to orient your build on the 5 ton Manitou Forklift. I did a few variations of it and all sorted out fine. Was capable of moving around a LG Battery. I'm happy to share a Blueprint for orientation.

    • @ultmateragnarok8376
      @ultmateragnarok8376 3 місяці тому +4

      The 'complete lack of suspension' thing makes me wonder how effective it'd be to just straight up use rotors instead of wheel suspensions. Friction would almost certainly be the largest issue, but if it wasn't, it might be interesting to compare the stability.
      In regards to the hinges it might be better to have both ones at the start of the chain (which would necessitate making the thing a lot shorter so it doesn't just smack your seat) and the ones at the end so they can be used to rotate heavy things, even if inconveniently.

  • @TheMonkeyGreen
    @TheMonkeyGreen 3 місяці тому +48

    You should setup a small little recharge spot for the forklift next to the warehouse foreman's office so he can properly log the equipment hours on it.

  • @_Grumpy_Panda_
    @_Grumpy_Panda_ 3 місяці тому +22

    Watching you pass by the marker you were looking for 1km away, as it was on your screen for like a solid 3 to 5 minutes while you explained your tow truck idea, then being VERY confused ending up at Zarders base was pretty amusing.

  • @matt.pinder
    @matt.pinder 3 місяці тому +86

    A suggestion for the flatbed mag plates, maybe colour code each 'group' so its obvious which group a mag plate is in.
    Also you may wish to lower the ride height of the forklift so it is as low to the ground as possible.

    • @ultmateragnarok8376
      @ultmateragnarok8376 3 місяці тому +5

      Even if they just alternated between, say, the yellow and blue, it'd do the job. Funny though it may be to paint them some ridiculously bright standout colors.

    • @rogerexcell249
      @rogerexcell249 3 місяці тому +5

      Advise against it. Contact with the floor would cause a clang explosion. I'd even strongly advise against the 1x1 wheel. Its very top heavy though, I agree.

    • @Triaxx2
      @Triaxx2 3 місяці тому +7

      Also once the magplates are painted, paint the corresponding buttons the same color.

    • @vadernation1233
      @vadernation1233 3 місяці тому +3

      Could also use the letter or number symbol blocks to put in the middle of the plates.

    • @Vessekx
      @Vessekx 3 місяці тому

      You can also just put them all in a single group, and set controls on the group to turn auto lock on/off, and trigger lock and unlock.
      A magnate with nothing on it will stay unlocked, even if told to lock, so you can just lock ‘all’ of them each time? And unlock all of them when you get home to unload. Turn auto lock on when you’re tossing small stuff on by hand, and off when you’re using the crane or otherwise manhandling something large.

  • @charles5636
    @charles5636 3 місяці тому +60

    Remember to add a light on the end of the crane :)

    • @montro2220
      @montro2220 3 місяці тому +7

      And a camera I believe 😂

  • @cipherstormwolf14
    @cipherstormwolf14 3 місяці тому +69

    I am still of the opinion that the helicopter should be put on top of your base as a kind of signpost from afar for your little scrapyard!

    • @--Braden--
      @--Braden-- 3 місяці тому +14

      if biker bars can have a "chopper bike"
      splitsy can have "chopper helicopter" on his roof
      he can even do an Arnold Schwarzenegger quote: “Get to the choppa!”

    • @gcherfzthequietone
      @gcherfzthequietone 3 місяці тому +2

      Splitsy and the Choppa trading company brought to you by Choppa Inc.

    • @corentingoovaerts133
      @corentingoovaerts133 3 місяці тому +1

      that's good idea, but i think he will need his "big crane" first.
      if he tempt to do it with his actual crane, it WILL be a mess, one way or another.

    • @diazinth
      @diazinth 3 місяці тому

      @@--Braden-- that would require stairs or a ladder though ;)

    • @thefatcat2790
      @thefatcat2790 2 місяці тому

      @--Braden--
      So... The chopper-chopper?

  • @blavena
    @blavena 2 місяці тому +9

    knocks the heck out of unweld wind tower with the crane, "how is that unattached?" LOL
    also, the way he doesn't align the red lights really get to me every time, I was even a bit relieve when he knocked it down

    • @Splitsie
      @Splitsie  2 місяці тому +6

      I think it's surprising enough that all of them even have the lights :D

  • @skipper2285
    @skipper2285 3 місяці тому +3

    I, too, built a forklift for scrapyard work. Nine small-grid small batteries at the rear, front wheels are 3x3 short with no steering, rear wheels are 1x1 short with 45 deg steering (it pivots on the inside front wheel/turns in its own length). Speed limit very low, Suspension very tight (full strength), adjusted wheel height of front wheels to keep level forklift, power very low, charging port on the back. Some design considerations: I have plenty of base power and am never going on a road trip with the forklift, so 9 tiny batteries is way overkill (used only 1 percent energy after an hour of use). I deposit all my deliveries on the deck, not the terrain, so the forklift never leaves the warehouse and construction yard. It's a forklift, not a mini crane truck, so dual parallel pistons conjoined at the heads are all I need, and they lead down to only 1 landing gear to avoid the near occasion of Cklang. The part between the pistons is a blast door block. If I need to lift parts higher than a few meters, I have a separate tool for that. Comes with bells AND whistles AND lights.
    Regarding your longliner trailer truck: The real engineer in me cringes every time you jump down the "let's overcomplicate boiling water" rabbit hole, but something about the thrill of impending disaster is addicting. Small grid mag plates are ridiculously cheap and fast to build, so I just scatter them about on my flatbed and move them as needed. Point and shoot with BuildVision to lock. I've got the PARK script loaded on my truck, but setting it up is a pain, so I move everything manually with BV.
    If I wanted to automate everything I'd play Factorio.

  • @Logiwonk
    @Logiwonk 3 місяці тому +6

    Just wanted to drop another comment saying how much I'm loving this mod, it really has brought the game back to it's roots of on-the-fly engineering for me, makes it feel like the early days but better. Currently I'm having a blast welding up a space-hulk station out of a bunch of space-wrecks. Also love that power sources are either absent or rare - gives me a reason to go back down to the planet to lift up some solars.

    • @Splitsie
      @Splitsie  3 місяці тому

      Thanks, glad you're enjoying it :)

  • @aurumworks
    @aurumworks 3 місяці тому +6

    A 300m body launch must be some kind of world record. From standing still no less.

  • @pedropimenta896
    @pedropimenta896 3 місяці тому +9

    55:38 Another Clang possesion, your scrapyard is haunted!!!

  • @ElectroBooze
    @ElectroBooze 3 місяці тому +10

    Splitsie community! I love to see a community with so many ideas and passion. Splitsie is great, a community so engaged is just a bonus

  • @JAY-fq7sb
    @JAY-fq7sb 3 місяці тому +5

    Now presenting the Spin a Lift. Randomly begins to spin without any reason. 🤣😂🤣👍 Awesome! Funny!

  • @FazekasPK
    @FazekasPK 3 місяці тому +11

    For the forklift, try bringing the center of mass down as low as possible, put the back wheels 1-2 blocks behind where they currently are.
    Use the batteries as counterweight, just abowe the back wheels, or put them just slightly behind.
    1 collumn of pistons are more than enough. Maybe even using just the one battery will be fine, as long as you don't forget putting a charging port on it.

    • @MrWarriorProphet
      @MrWarriorProphet 2 місяці тому

      Yes, center of mass really needs to be lower! What I'd do, is place the Batteries end to end, with the wide ends facing up and down. Then the Cockpit you used would still look good. And I'd place the pistons on the sides of the Batteries (long sides) - then have Hinges at the base of the Pistons, at least!

  • @tgyk94
    @tgyk94 3 місяці тому +5

    Forklift suggestions. flip your batteries and attach them end to end. giving a 2 tall, 3 wide, 6 long base of the Forklift, wheels under batteries, everything else on top of them, a 1 block gap for double pistons. this should give you a Forklift that is only 1 block bigger(1 longer then your current, 'from your gyros to piston base'. but same wheel width) also a lower center of mass. also, a Helm cockpit might give a better look, similar to a pallet jack/dolley, kind you can stand on the back of and drive around in warehouses.

    • @vladimirljubopytnov5193
      @vladimirljubopytnov5193 2 місяці тому

      I'd vote for single battery or bunch of single block batteries back&low, slightly longer wheel base to rock less on the ramps, and I'd give up on double pistons if clang wishes it :).

  • @MistahBryan
    @MistahBryan 3 місяці тому +19

    30:26, Paint the Magplates so it'd be easier to identify the Groups by looking at the bed.
    Match the buttons to the colour of the Magplates

  • @LightDragonSlayer
    @LightDragonSlayer 3 місяці тому +2

    Spilts do us a favor, put all your best funny moments in a huge compliation, u made laugh so hard when ur FLT was going clang. Happy Eatern!

  • @mandyspence1599
    @mandyspence1599 3 місяці тому +7

    This episode had me giggling hysterically! Your confusion, coupled with one of the best Splitsie deaths in a while - perfection!
    I truly loved the break dancing forklift. I kind of don't want you to change it... Seriously though, take a look at Manny from your SI series, he worked real good and looked pretty neat too. Building something a little similar to him I think will work great.

    • @Splitsie
      @Splitsie  3 місяці тому +3

      I think Manny may well end up spinning just as much, I think there might be an issue with the dual piston setup with the server so I might have to cave and go to a single :(

  • @Ben-wi4ww
    @Ben-wi4ww 3 місяці тому +2

    I would also split those batteries on the forklift, put them flat in line, then reset the cockpit back on top. here in the states most of our forklift steer from the rear wheels and our front wheels are larger to accommodate the weight. You’re possibly at a point in your play through where you don’t need to take the crane truck out, you could just take what we call a Moffit and truck.

  • @anumeon
    @anumeon 3 місяці тому +2

    Ahh, Splitsie doing the pistondance.. This rare dance has not been seen since survival unlikely when Capac first did it. :)

  • @gregvance1586
    @gregvance1586 3 місяці тому +4

    A bit of a different suggestion for the forklift: add a light to the FRONT of it so you can actually see the stuff you're trying to pick up at night.

  • @Pystro
    @Pystro 3 місяці тому +3

    5 engineering suggestions:
    A For increasing the wheelbase of your flatbed truck, you could have split it down the middle and made the body wider (instead of just letting the wheels stick out of the body more).
    B For your groups of 2x2 magplates, I'd color code those with the buttons.
    C 36:08 You'll also want one of those colored light with short falloff at one end of that attachment hinge. It will be less important to be able to judge distances when connecting the trailer than when manipulating the crane arm, but it's an easy addition.
    D On the topic of connecting the hitch arm, I'd use the hinge on the flatbed's hood to push itself up from the crane truck (with the hinge on the back of the crane truck being the free pitch articulation). Using the hinge on the crane truck to lift the front of the flatbed could potentially lift the front of the crane segment into the air (you would loose traction on your steering wheels). You would probably need to keep the crane attached to the flatbed's hood when not in use (yes, it won't look as nice/realistic as keeping it on the crane truck when disconnected, but it will also stop looking nice if you flip it due to poor handling).
    [edit: The lifting action could also be done by replacing that hinge on the flatbed truck with a piston. It will be hard to get the angle that you were looking for, unless you use 1:2 slopes to your advantage, but it will stop the bounciness.]
    E Did you add a hotbar function to turn the friction of the steering wheels of the flatbed down to zero when connected, right? You don't want the flatbed to exert unexpected sideways forces when you go over a hump or when you load it up too much.

  • @PandaSE_
    @PandaSE_ 3 місяці тому +3

    Silly idea, but having a rover race with the others could be fun collaborative event.

    • @Splitsie
      @Splitsie  3 місяці тому +1

      I've got some ideas for some events, probably won't do regular racing as latency has far too much of an impact, but may take some hints from the Farming Sim playbook ;)

  • @abraxis260482
    @abraxis260482 3 місяці тому +4

    For the forklift; aside from obviously spacing the pistons a block or two apart, you're really going to want to try and get the centre of mass down as low as you can.
    Very tricky with two batteries, so I would just get rid of one and move the cockpit in it's place. It's not like this thing is going to be massively power hungry, or have to drive around for a great length of time. You can always just build a dedicated charging port to park it when not in use, so I can't see power being an issue.
    If you're dead set on the two batteries however; you could at least try having one battery remain where it is, detach the other and put a cockpit in it's place. Then weld the detached battery onto the back of the whole thing where the gyros currently are (they can be moved wherever.) That would get you a low centre of mass, and a little more counterweight in the back to help guard against tipping. The other alternative is just hanging the cockpit off to one side of the batteries as is.
    Either way, since you're obviously going to have to separate the pistons; I'd recommend putting some lights set to low radius between the hinges, to aid with reckoning the proximity in third person. Indeed it might be worth having proxy lights all around the vehicle given you're going to be using it at night a lot, and I suspect it'll be a while before the base's lighting in a state where that won't be a concern.
    Whether you want the thing to have an even or odd number of blocks widthways really depends on the design of your pallets (and visa-versa.) For the pallets themselves; I might be inclined to try blast door blocks for easier ground clearance, smaller collisions boxes, and tougher in case of accidents. Granted, that does make attaching the battery, mag locks, buttons etc a little tricky; but at the same time presents more compact options if you intend to merge block them onto a larger racking system, without said blocks sticking out away from the other surfaces.
    If you want to be really fancy you could place a green light on each side, controlled by an EC set to watch whether to cargo maglocks are locked or not. Just so you can tell at a glace which pallets are free and which have something attached. Not a bid deal if you're just going to store them on the ground, but useful if you want them on some kind of racking system.
    Finally; it can be a bit janky, but one thing I've done in the past is group together the wheels down one side, then put a toggle on the hotbar to reverse their direction, and another to disable steering for all four. That should give you the ability to (carefully!) spin in place, tank control style. Useful for getting into or out of tight spots. You'll probably have to fiddle with the wheel settings to get the power/friction balance right.

  • @bonkwonkelchip7569
    @bonkwonkelchip7569 2 місяці тому +1

    This series has inspired me to make a game. Thanks splitsie! (Also for the forklift if you ever pick up something too heavy lower the back suspension)

  • @MatthewJOsbourne
    @MatthewJOsbourne 3 місяці тому +2

    Forklift steering on the "rear" wheels only so that when carrying a load, the pivot point of the steering is center mass, including the load.

  • @fcytv
    @fcytv 3 місяці тому +2

    I just built a scrap forklift 2 days ago in the scrapyard scenario. I must say it's one of the best experiences SE offered me so far, I'm having a lot of fun!
    So the forklift.. Used one centered large battery and hydrogen engine as counterweight and built the frame around these, also added O2H2gen with cargo on top of that for extra countering weight if I ever need it. The thing has long wheelbase which makes it stable enough to carry large grid batteries around. Also went with rotor instead of hinge at the end of the fork - so that I could displace and orient heavy blocks with a single vehicle. Oh and jack stands to attach the forklift to the ground while rotating heavy stuff work great.

  • @baronvonschnellenstein2811
    @baronvonschnellenstein2811 3 місяці тому +1

    An entertaining, if unexpected 'Splatsie' moment, there!
    Enjoyed the gyro tilt control on the dearly ... well, nearly departed forklift - can't say I'm surprised that Lord C***g took an interest in proceedings when you tried to get the lift to full extension, but it was fun to watch. Seems that UfoL has got you covered for re-design suggestions - look forward to seeing how you implement those 👍
    Your comment about the 'site office' and the base in general really resonated with me - that role-play element certainly impacts where I choose to site bases, as well as the build itself. I too, find myself getting more out of sandbox games like SE as a result. :)

  • @FritiFirecaster
    @FritiFirecaster 3 місяці тому +1

    Should consider using your plushies as hood ornaments or to decorate your living quarters.

  • @lord_kinbote3920
    @lord_kinbote3920 Місяць тому

    The forklift decided to pursue its dreams of becoming a breakdancer.

  • @Arakasi0
    @Arakasi0 3 місяці тому +1

    If you had one gyro set to a moderate power override you could probably make the whole forklift feel a lot more stable while being able to overpower it with the other two.

  • @SandervanOort
    @SandervanOort 3 місяці тому +7

    @Splitsie nice job on the forklift 😂👍 (forklift mechanic myself for 22 years now.) though I would go for a lower frame with one battery (or both) on the back as counter weight. As most suggested I would split the pistons and maybe add a bridge bar on the first set of piston heads. As for tilting you could go for 2 options: 1. Lower or rise your back suspension. 2. Put a hinge between the forklift frame and mast (as option: pistons between frame an mast for tilting. Most forklift brands has the tilt pistons just above the front wheels. Though there is one brand that has the tilt pistons on the roof)

    • @Splitsie
      @Splitsie  3 місяці тому +3

      Yeah, I'm thinking something more like a standard telehandler design might be more suited to SE uses. Easier to get the weight distribution better given the block limitations, but at least the dancing with the forklift was fun :P

    • @SandervanOort
      @SandervanOort 3 місяці тому

      @@Splitsie it was indeed 🤣👍

  • @peatbogg3688
    @peatbogg3688 3 місяці тому +13

    20:46 It wasn't turning when you bumped it. That wind turbine was never actually connected. It was just resting on the bottom piece. At 14:18 you can see it clearly not working as you approach the base.

    • @Splitsie
      @Splitsie  3 місяці тому +3

      It was definitely connected when I first built it, I have no idea when those other parts went missing though...

    • @Sixty4_Redstone
      @Sixty4_Redstone 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Splitsie I have a feeling someone may have accidentally shot it. Or purposely cut it as a "harmless" joke.

    • @matt.pinder
      @matt.pinder 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@SplitsieMaybe when you have instances of forgetting to 'rotor lock' bits flew into the turbine and destroyed a block?

    • @UfoLBeerSeeker
      @UfoLBeerSeeker 3 місяці тому +5

      @@Splitsie maybe time to weld them just a little bit so they are over 1hp? Otherwise a speck of dust could break them, and all the clanging around your base kicked up a lot of dust.

    • @alexandre069
      @alexandre069 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Splitsie I investigated a bit and the wind turbine has been reduce between your 5th and 6th video (I guess somebody came take a bit of it

  • @daz8405
    @daz8405 3 місяці тому +2

    Okay, a nice comedy episode today, I feel, thank you:
    Firstly, was looking at the wind turbine in the background while you were unloading, trying to figure out why it wasn't spinning, what's wrong with it? Why doesn't it spin - the others do... (I think you might have got pranked.)
    For the truck hitch - how about putting a piston to extend/retract it, so it's not quite so in the way when you're not towing. Also, if you adjust it so it lays more flat, it probably won't get in the way of your third-person camera so much.
    Now the fork-lift - I don't know what type of lift that's supposed to be, it doesn't have a counter-balance, so it can't be one of them, maybe it's a Klang-Balance? I've found that two pistons pushing the same sub-grid can generate phantom forces if the sim-speed drops; one piston gets processed, the other doesn't. The crane probably has this problem but is heavy enough that you don't notice.
    Taking it down to a single piston on an odd-width base is probably your best bet, having the lifting 'forks' only being one hinge rather than two will also be safer. You could make a tilting-mast by putting the hinge on the bottom of the lifting pistons, but the weights might be an issue, meaning you may need a piston to help. Adding more weight to the back will also help - your Mannie from SI is a perfect example.
    I have started to make a counter-balance forklift in SE that I thought you could use - it's far too big for the warehouse, though. If you're interested, I'll put it on the workshop for you, it uses the PARK script, as that's just easier.

    • @Splitsie
      @Splitsie  3 місяці тому +2

      I think you're bang on the money with the dual piston issue, it's the sort of thing that works without issue in single player but here it was fraught with peril (and a few laughs) :P
      With regards to the counter balance aspect, having two heavy batteries at the base with the way that SE cheeses centre of mass calculations for wheeled vehicles, it is effectively a counter weight setup (even though it doesn't look it). That's what I was going for and it probably would have worked ok for the larger small grid blocks if not for the spinning :D

  • @mailleweaver
    @mailleweaver 3 місяці тому

    I really like the maglifts that are in the Frostbite scenario; they fall into that sweet spot of being very functional but still have room for player improvement. They have a full-size connector on the back that can be loaded up with ballast and double as a charging connection. Their wheel base is also a bit longer. You might be able to get away with 1x1 wheels with such a short wheel base. That would make it less prone to tipping. It's not like you're going to be driving this thing across the desert. You just need to be able to get over the hump at the top of your ramps.

  • @kool_majster4314
    @kool_majster4314 3 місяці тому +2

    For forklift changes:
    I would replace the cockpit with a Helm, hanging on the back of batteries

  • @montro2220
    @montro2220 3 місяці тому +5

    More Splitsie on the Planet of Junk (Transformers reference there 😉)

  • @ukaszanioowski9722
    @ukaszanioowski9722 3 місяці тому +1

    you could place numbers in between the mag-plates to mark them

  • @Cr4sHOv3rRiD3
    @Cr4sHOv3rRiD3 3 місяці тому +1

    Suggestions for forklift:
    - Make lifting pistons at leas 1 block apart
    - Put the batteries on the back of a forklift as an counterweight and as close to the ground as possible (you can also use cargo filled with gravel etc... and use only small batteries fro driving)
    - Fork should have an pivot point on the bottom allowing the forks to be tilted up and down, and from that point you should build lifting pistons as well as side ones if you want to move the cargo sideways like left/right.
    Forks lifting mechanism should looks like this:
    On the front bottom chassis of the vehicle, slap an hinge pointing forward and limit the hinge for example 5 degrees toward the ground and 10 degrees above the ground. Next, build some blocks from the hinge going few blocks above the hinge pivot, literally on top of the hinge and there you should slap 1 lifting piston pointing up ofc., from the piston, make some blocks going down again on the sides of a piston and then slap 2 more lifting pistons on each side of the first piston. Then you can bring some blocks back nearly at the ground and slap the fork (or mag plate). You can also slap some side pistons before the fork, to make it going left and right for couple of blocks just for fine side adjustments.
    - When making a fork (mag plate) make it that way for them to look as actual forks and slap the mag plate pointing upwards, it will allow you to lift the actual pallets when you build one, so the fork should fit below the standing pallet and mag plate it once you put the forks below the pallet, you can also use small connectors instead of mag plates, it will allows for pallet controls if you happens to spam an merge blocks to the pallets and it will allow you to merge the pallet while inside the cockpit of an forklift.
    - Like all of the real forklifts have rear wheel steering of nearly 90 degrees and SE doesn't have the option for that instead using the scripts, don't be afraid to use wider wheel base and 4 wheel steering at max angle for all wheels for steering. Just set the power of the wheels to be somewhat low to prevent flipping etc.
    Hope it helps somehow or give some ideas for the repair of the forklift :D
    Keep up great content and channel Splitsie

  • @dakotawhitemane3507
    @dakotawhitemane3507 3 місяці тому

    When I was tinkering with forklift/telehandler/skidsteer designs in my solo world before it got corrupted. I was looking at a large bunch of small grid, small cargo containers stuffed full of stone as one form of getting ballast to counter load weight. With small batteries to keep the size down because I wasn't planing on driving it all over the place so figured it didn't need lots of power storage.

  • @mrtibbs6566
    @mrtibbs6566 3 місяці тому +1

    You have to put a connector on the back of the forklift and one on the floor so you can lie down to sleep and charge.

  • @maleficentia8390
    @maleficentia8390 3 місяці тому +3

    To avoid that thunking issue with the magplates & crane and to avoid issues with "magplating to the truck which then gains inertia and launches into space" - added all magplates to group with an autolock on/off and a switchlock for them all as well if so tempted. Also clearly an aussie. Driver's cockpit on the right hand side.

  • @nils-peterwihlney8732
    @nils-peterwihlney8732 3 місяці тому +1

    I think you should expand the theme of your scrapyard base. Build a fenced-in area with a stationary crane and functioning gate where you store all future military (aka drones) scraps and dangerous scraps you find. Adding a sign that says "Danger Zone: Military Scraps" with a smaller sign strapped beneath it that says "Beware of Capac".

  • @jakersda1st
    @jakersda1st 3 місяці тому +1

    For the forklift lay one battery flat with the cockpit on top the other on standing behind the first battery. That's actually pretty close to how real electric forklift are configured.
    I think i have a better way to do your hitch. There's a special vehicle called a hostler (sometimes yard dog) which lifts the front of semi trailers so you don't have to raise the landing. You could copy it with your normal hitch system, with a piston that pushes the whole hitch system up. Move the hinge part to the bumper of the truck. That way it will kinda look like a winch.

  • @cjrdam6967
    @cjrdam6967 3 місяці тому

    For the forklift splitsie. Set the batteries further back, so that they are mostly, if not wholly behind the rear wheels to allow it to be less flip happy and allow you to pick up heavier loads with it, widen the the wheel base a bit like you said to allow for either one piston or a bit more space. And depending on how you want it to handle you might want to consider locking the steering on the front wheels and increasing the turning angle in the rear to help it behave more like a forklift 😁

  • @amshermansen
    @amshermansen 3 місяці тому

    A helicopter tower rising above and attached to the side of the warehouse building would be awesome.

  • @sennix7148
    @sennix7148 3 місяці тому

    Frostbite had a good little forklift design. One is at the entrance of the mine where the first data container is and another one at the bottom of the mine where the other three data containers are. It used dual pistons that were merged together separated by one block in between. A little bigger than the one you designed, but it might spark some more creative ideas.

  • @MMuraseofSandvich
    @MMuraseofSandvich 3 місяці тому

    Fond memories of Capac's shenanigans with a forklift trying to lift... Kermit the Hulk? Mike Wazowski? with maximum speed on the pistons, biting a chunk out of the big rover and destroying the medbay.

    • @Splitsie
      @Splitsie  3 місяці тому +1

      lol That was pretty funny :D

  • @subzero1456
    @subzero1456 3 місяці тому

    For your forklift when counterbalancing for lifting heavy objects. A lot of people forget there's the mass block. It can add mass to the back of your forklift and will only add mass when powered so it can be toggled on/off.

  • @robjones9128
    @robjones9128 3 місяці тому +1

    Well thats my afternoon done.

  • @aroventalmav888
    @aroventalmav888 3 місяці тому

    Behold sparky, the breakdancing forklift.

  • @dtravler6194
    @dtravler6194 3 місяці тому +1

    @Splitsie You should change the slop blocks infront of the doors to a lesser slop it will help you in getting in without misshaps.

  • @ParasiteJR
    @ParasiteJR Місяць тому

    For grinding batteries, grind and watch the control panel, It will turn from red to yellow just before the cells are ground.

  • @savemars4383
    @savemars4383 2 місяці тому

    Rotor piston hinge on front of flatbed, fixed block to rotor on towing truck. Extend piston to attach retract to lift front wheels
    Forklift: attach back wheels to pistons so you can extend and retract if needed.

  • @thornblackwell5749
    @thornblackwell5749 3 місяці тому

    Whenever pistons are attached to hinges you want to try share inertial tensor on the pistons. It’s less likely to induce phantom forces that way.

  • @michaelhall1303
    @michaelhall1303 3 місяці тому

    For the forklift...maybe use the batteries in a lay down "L"(rotated anticlockwise) giving you a similar length and width but keeping the center of mass as low to the ground as possible and to the rear

  • @jokejoke4234
    @jokejoke4234 3 місяці тому

    A suggestion is to move the piston to the back of it with black gap and make it come over the cab and use more pistons for more control like the one on your main rover while keeping the compact factor

  • @juangonzalez9848
    @juangonzalez9848 3 місяці тому

    You could change the colors of the mag plates on your flatbed so it’s easier to see which group is which. Also, a telehandler style of lift might suit your needs better.

  • @rocketboy-rz6zd
    @rocketboy-rz6zd 3 місяці тому

    Hey Splitsie! Great video! That rotor limit fiasco was amazing. I was thinking of an idea for the pallets, you could make them small grid, and put mag plates on the side of them, so you could use the forklift to raise them up to a particular height, and then lock them to the wall of the warehouse. That way you could "stack" the pallets. Then you could even put some shelves in the middle of the warehouse using vertical armor plates and then you could stack more pallets there too, as long as you leave room for your forklift to go in between!

    • @Splitsie
      @Splitsie  3 місяці тому +1

      Oh yeah, I could do something like that, but use a connector on the forklift to attach to the pallets, that way I'd get control over the mag plate on the pallet from inside the forklift

    • @rocketboy-rz6zd
      @rocketboy-rz6zd 3 місяці тому

      @@Splitsie Yes! That's a brilliant idea! I was thinking that might be the only annoying part would be not being able to control the mag plates on the pallets without having to get out of the forklift. Problem solved!

  • @MistahBryan
    @MistahBryan 3 місяці тому +1

    58:29, Longer is better than taller.Putting the cockpit in front of the batteries and the Pistons in front of the Cockpit was the right idea. Also, maybe increase the Friction of the wheels and reduce the Speed. Real Forklifts aren't supposed to go beyond 10MPH (16 KMH)

  • @timothybackhus824
    @timothybackhus824 3 місяці тому

    I know youre mostly sticking with keepong things painted as you found them, but if at some point in the future you decide to change that, I think the flatbed would look great painted red with a white pinstripe on the cab. Great work as always!

  • @MrFleety415
    @MrFleety415 3 місяці тому

    Hey there really big fan of this series. I might suggest for the forklift moving your cockpit forward between your batteries and lifter. Do a base level of light armour blocks. Gyros. Then cockpit to make it less top heavy. I’m not sure about the pistons I’ve never used them in that way before. I also have a suggestion for your new truck. You could potentially move your crane to the roof of the cab and convert your current crane into a cargo hauler. I’m really excited to watch you move and air craft hanger 😁😁

  • @amshermansen
    @amshermansen 3 місяці тому

    You should build a small scissor lift vehicle for doing repairs and building on the base. Literally a basket with pistons on wheels, so you can sit in it and have it raise up - to weld things like the windmill towers and anything on the wall and roof of the warehouse.

  • @maxmustermann8247
    @maxmustermann8247 3 місяці тому

    I could watch this all day.

  • @trevorhaddox6884
    @trevorhaddox6884 3 місяці тому

    An industrial controls mod would be cool. Something that adds like hydraulic lever styled buttons for the side of your truck and forklift.

  • @joenine295
    @joenine295 3 місяці тому

    You could color code the buttons and mag plates on your truck/trailer so that it's a lot easier to tell which button goes to which plates.

  • @Arthezius
    @Arthezius 3 місяці тому

    I laughed pretty hard at the music when the WPF, or Weird Phantom Forces, were going on.

    • @Rob_Moilanen
      @Rob_Moilanen 3 місяці тому +1

      No, he just keeps tempting the WTFKLANG bu tton and it's on like Donky Kong then... it's almost like every cockpit he gets into, he's gotta roll a D-20 dice for the damage modifier....

  • @jedo2889
    @jedo2889 3 місяці тому

    For the forklift, use only 1 battery and lay it horizontaly instead and subsequently make it wider and with only one piston

  • @markrowbotham222
    @markrowbotham222 3 місяці тому +1

    forklift needs more clang and more subgrids with rotor wheels and hinge steering

  • @jamestrotter2833
    @jamestrotter2833 Місяць тому

    I remember the connector on the Goose. Jimbo be safe

  • @illuminations_of_sorrow2672
    @illuminations_of_sorrow2672 3 місяці тому

    I built a similar crane to yours and placed the offset spotlights on the 2x1 slope blocks just before the hand portion. Adjusting the radius and color of each would give you some great indicators.

  • @xotlxoltyna
    @xotlxoltyna 3 місяці тому

    I feel like Splitsie just reinvented the 3x3 mag plate

    • @Splitsie
      @Splitsie  3 місяці тому

      Annoyingly the big mag plate is also a LOT taller so I really didn't want to use it here :/

  • @WaldoIsMissing
    @WaldoIsMissing 3 місяці тому +2

    I recently started my foray into hacking batteries. I did the first three flawlessly! My ego was hugely inflated. 30+ more batteries later….. mostly failures. Ego is back where it belongs

  • @dariantel
    @dariantel 3 місяці тому

    i did a really effective forklift with 2 batteries and one truck cockpit in a row. Then i did attach two hinges as far back as possible on each side, pistons all the way to the front and merged them together, it is like a telescope handler that can reach to the ground and really high up.

  • @RadicalPerson1
    @RadicalPerson1 3 місяці тому

    For the magplates regrabbing. I put a locking and power switch next to each other. Once unlocked, turn off the plate and it doesn't regrab.

  • @michaelproberts1969
    @michaelproberts1969 3 місяці тому

    mass blocks on the back connected to a piston that you can extend to move the center of gravity back, you need something to keep your front end wanting to flip over, a real forklift, you have the propane, engine, etc in the back to give it that counterbalance when picking stuff up.

  • @LeeSpork
    @LeeSpork 3 місяці тому

    If you only use one battery, you could put it and the cockpit side-by-side to make the forklift not so tall, and then you could add some armour on the other side of the battery to both prevent you from breaking it again, and to make the vehicle an odd width!

  • @seanh5148
    @seanh5148 3 місяці тому

    If you're putting a gap between the two forklift pistons, then perhaps a spotlight of some sort between them on the batteries? Providing better lighting as you're zooming around.

  • @LocalIdiot-ch5cx
    @LocalIdiot-ch5cx 3 місяці тому

    Maybe using a helm on the back of the fort lift would work better? Also, maybe a ramp on the end of the flatbed could be a worthwhile investment if you are ever thinking of moving vehicles on the truck?

  • @jsc8monday
    @jsc8monday 3 місяці тому

    the two mag plate next to each other are what causing you the phantom forces

  • @Backyardmechanic0114
    @Backyardmechanic0114 3 місяці тому

    Idea for the flatbed - what about having it steer with the back wheels so when it hooks up, the front wheels on the flatbed rotate or fold upward rather than lifting it. That way you don't need the extra sub grids in the way of the cockpit and you can just put on a normal trailer hitch.

  • @HungLikeScrat
    @HungLikeScrat 3 місяці тому

    I'd love to see a future Space Engineers collaboration between you and one of my other favorite UA-camrs (Beeblebum). I can only imagine the builds the two of you would come up with.

  • @callsignj0ker555
    @callsignj0ker555 3 місяці тому

    On the Forklift, place the batteries behind the wheels in the same height and lower the cockpit to a normal level. and maybe have a gyro override always to account for the battery weight while you dont carry anything, and turn it off with a timer block or event controller (i dont remember if you have any) when you grab something that will then act as counterweight on its own. Also maybe push the rear wheels more on the back to account for the ramps in the Storage Building

  • @giancarloriccio8890
    @giancarloriccio8890 3 місяці тому

    I think it's better to put the hinge on the bumper with horizontal movement, this way you can also eliminate the rotor and keep only the vertical hinge to lift the truck.

  • @danielwiese7610
    @danielwiese7610 3 місяці тому

    I like this new series. I haven’t played SE in a few years, mostly because it is too easy and I had a hard time coming up with something to do. It’s cool to see what new blocks they’ve added.

  • @Conqueror933
    @Conqueror933 3 місяці тому

    Regarding the forklift. I'd move the wheels to infront and behind the batteries and then move them up a block or two (depending on how much clearance is needed to get over the edge of the block in the door) because this isn't an offroad vehicle and you don't need that much clearance.
    If you want odd symmetrie instead of even, could also rotate the battery pack 90°

  • @TheBushRanger
    @TheBushRanger 3 місяці тому

    I really want to see the Chinook turned into the flying vehicle

  • @danielsturdivant632
    @danielsturdivant632 3 місяці тому

    Love this series❤

  • @chaunmcguire5498
    @chaunmcguire5498 2 місяці тому

    So sounds like you want to make a dynamic gooseneck trailer truck. I love it. It would be nice if they have a multidirectional pivot block. One that works like a ball hitch instead of having to use 3 different components. I think you might have better luck if you got rid of the pivot on the hood, mount a piston directly to the lower portion of the frame (almost the top of the bumper) to use to lift the front end up

  • @DjapeKostic
    @DjapeKostic 3 місяці тому

    You hit the blocks on the wind turbine with the crane, that's how it happened

  • @mrronkandston
    @mrronkandston 3 місяці тому +1

    a wheelie bar and spoiler shall help thy lift of the fork

  • @zzzires5045
    @zzzires5045 3 місяці тому +8

    The splits showing he has never used a forklift. One battery flat with cockpit ontop would have made more sense. Doesnt need massive run time/range
    1 centre battery, placed behind the cockpit. (Balast and its short range/time usage)
    0 suspension travel (bounce is bad)
    Tilt, then lift. Gives more control
    Maintain 2 pistons but split em so you can see through.
    Normally big wheels up front and lil baby ones in the booty

  • @kevinspyrle5538
    @kevinspyrle5538 3 місяці тому

    As you pulled in, I noticed that wind turbine wasn’t spinning at all.

  • @my_own_minion
    @my_own_minion 3 місяці тому

    53:30 It's soooooo cute. Reminds me of my first atmo miner 😆

  • @Pystro
    @Pystro 3 місяці тому +1

    An editing tip:
    20:46 That looked like a flashback cut back to a past event for a moment.
    I guess the change of weather/light/scene confused me. Maybe a few short cuts of you placing blocks in gradually changing weather/light conditions could have better conveyed that some amount of time passed in that cut.

    • @Splitsie
      @Splitsie  3 місяці тому

      That was mere moments later - the joys of the janky weather in SE

  • @moldy13
    @moldy13 3 місяці тому

    i would say, one battery. flip it behind the cockpit. really need to lower the center of gravity. lengthen the wheelbase. regarding phantom forces, no idea. you're the expert in that arena.

  • @SuperScumble
    @SuperScumble 3 місяці тому

    Keep looking at my kid watching minecraft videos and thinking "Why?" and a while later i get the notification that a new video for this is up and i'm right on it... The irony is not lost 😂

    • @Splitsie
      @Splitsie  3 місяці тому

      lol :D
      Just gotta get them hooked on SE like I did one of my nephews :P

  • @glumrvigmadr
    @glumrvigmadr 3 місяці тому

    Just my two cents. Two of the trucks connected side to side would make a large stable trailer.

  • @Dani948
    @Dani948 3 місяці тому

    Hi Splitsie, I think for the forklift you should rather go for a "variable reach stacker" design than for a normal forklift. You could even use 3 pistons in a row to gain more reach... So put the 2 batteries flat and behind each other - they should go below the hinge-mounted horizontal piston line... It's hard to explain what I mean, but maybe you can google for some pictures of a "variable reach stacker" to get the idea...

  • @martinwyke
    @martinwyke 3 місяці тому +1

    A telehandler could be a better option than a forklift.