CABIN BATHROOM DISMANTLE ABOARD OUR CLASSIC CRUISE SHIP READY FOR RESTORATION OR RENOVATION
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Cabin B-228 aboard the Aurora has been Neglected for over 30 years. This is Part 2 of our Renovation that dives deep into what it takes to restore a classic cruise ship bathroom. So far it hasn't been easy. Stay with us for more crazy projects aboard the Aurora.
1972 i was an AB on this ship but the name was ALTE LIEBE. 18.6. i met a girl
on board going from Hamburg to Helgoland ( and back ). Now , over 50 jears
later, she is still my wife.
Go on renovating our ship.
Remember the cleaning issues with small tiles, lots of grout, and tight spaces. The larger the tile and thinner the grout lines the better off you will be. The nasty pipe in the corner of the room needs to be closed in. The electrical all needs to be water proof rated and what I see is not even close. This is an amazing project and you certainly have your hands full.
Thanks for the thoughts. I agree with the large tile theory. Makes a lot of sense. The electrical will be replaced as needed with marine grade wire. The last thing I would ever cut corners on is electrical.
Large tiles isn’t good on a ship. Ships flex
Oh what a nice film ❤ of Aurora‘s first years when she was the „Wappen von Hamburg“!
At this time my parents (both in heaven today) were a young couple and my brothers (71 and 70) were toddlers. 🥲 Good old times … 😊
Love and greetings from Germany 💋🌞😎
I’ve been watching this restoration for over 1 year now,, amazing.
Thanks for watching. It’s been an adventure
Me to
Remember that ships move, flex and vibrate (when they run), large tiles have a tendency of cracking. Modern cruise ship bathrooms are usually wet units (all in one) installed in the stateroom and tiles are usually fake. They're printed or stamped onto the walls to prevent cracking and leaks. On the ships I work on, real tile is usually kept for the public areas only for maintenance reasons.
I liked the grey and white version of the dot tile and the octagon and square next to it. It's a softer look for an ensuite but would work with the vintage theme. Pink and grey was so typically used together. The grey would work with the aqua, mint and lemon bathroom fixtures used then so you could keep the look cohesive without having to do all the bathrooms with pink sinks.
I was looking at that one too. The pattern isn’t too bad. It’s definitely a possibility unless something even cooler pops up.. Thanks
Everytime I see more of the ship, it makes me fall in love with her all over again!!
I am a boat nut my self love the work your doing to her have been watching your videos from the beginning great job
Remember that ships move, flex and vibrate (when they run), large tiles have a tendency of cracking. Modern cruise ship bathrooms are usually wet units (all in one) installed in the stateroom and tiles are usually fake. They're printed or stamped onto the walls to prevent cracking and leaks. On the ships I work on, real tile is usually kept for the public areas only for maintenance reasons. correct reaction from Niels Polin dont use breakable stuff use flexible parts and for flooring use pooring stuff that can stand the movement of the vessel.
I have to say, I like the little white round tiles too...maybe the glass ones would look good as well. The fixtures are going to be fun to track down, some towns have a Habitat for Humanity Re-Store and that is a great source for contractor overstock items.
Massive job. Wish you well. Seem to remember this ship as a boy in South Africa. Could be wrong.
Not sure if she was in South Africa but could be wrong
What a fantastic project beautiful work keep it up
Thanks,
I can’t wait to see each new issue. I like how you used to have some crew members that helped you with the swimming pool, doors, teak floors outside.
You’re doing a great job. This is fun and exciting.
No suggestions - but God bless you and prosper you as you complete this awesome restoration.
4:44 nice technic mate, I have learned quite a bit with this restoration.
Pulling nail? I have yet to event start the restoration. Just the teardown so far.
@AuroraRestorationProject the way you used the pliers. And you have been restoring the Aurora.Also did not know about that tool you used to xheck the lamp circuit.
Well done Chris. Exciting stuff. Be watching from down under.
Hi mate.
Great job you're doing. I'm in Australia 🇦🇺, but I hope to be in The States next year for a month or two. I'll look you up and lend a hand if you wish.
Cheers mate.
Really like the channel, and have seen all episodes from the start. Best regards Fredrik in Sweden
Thanks for watching. Hope you stick around to see what we have coming up.
Another great update. You're doing an amazing job and good luck with the rest. I'm sure it will look fantastic (Having so many near misses myself, I'd like to see you wearing more PPE)
As an ex-marine engineer in new zealand, i;d love to work on a project on a large cruise ship like the Aurora, but the cost of restoring a large ship like the Aurora, in new zealand are hidesitly espencive.
I am working and repairing old marine lister diesel generators, i had to order conrod bolts from Australia because they are not available in NZ.
However i'll be enjoying watching the Aurora restoration project untill she is in full operational and the sea trials. I can't wait to see and hear those massive mercedes diesels up and running... keep up the good work
👍
Thanks for the historical. Interesting
Landmark Ceramics is a tile company I used to work for in TN. You might reach out to them and buy direct from the manufacturer and save some money. They make all kinds of different tiles and could send you a catalog of the different tiles they make. They are an Italian Tile Company and are very good people to work with. They are based out of Mt. Pleasant, TN and again they are called Landmark Ceramics.
I wish I had the type of vision that could lend a hand with suggestions, but I have no such gene within, but I would say how much fun it would be to make each cabin wholly unique and a different experience for each passenger. It's only what 130 cabins, piece of cake.
Loving this !!!
And removing the toilet ??? Shitty job....
Thanks…
A great video and story about Aurora . It might be possible to buy cheap ship fitting from the Asian ship breakers . Keep safe and healthy .cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
bow ties for the tile on the bathroom floor, picture frames in tile around windows, must do mosaics for around the pool area, original sinks in the bathroom, restain original flooring if u can, colored bulbs for around the pool, led lighting for dining area, as well as lighthouses in the tile, waves for deco on the paint, marine signal flags for decoration, monogram towels with the ships name, etc. ❤❤❤
Instead of tile, how about a good quality single piece linoleum which was very common back in the 50's and 60's. They probably have a wide choice of patterns available.
Worth looking into for the cabin but likely not the bathroom. Thanks for the idea..
Is it any plans to start up the main engine, or onboard generators? Love your channel 🤩 Best Regards from Oslo Norway
Absolutely, We are gearing up to fire one of the mains in an upcoming video..
Octagonal for the floor and subway tile for the walls.
Like the first one, white & black. Continuity with other bathrooms.
As Garyjarvis2730 mentioned about the cleaning aspect with the tiles, stick with less grout line. I was a janitor for 13 yrs. Alot of older schools had the smaller tiles and it was horrific to clean, even with a power washer. I'd definitely recommend as little groutline as possible. :)
While i understand there are alot of different grout cleaners out there, its best to keep cleaning simple.
By all means though, it's your project and I'm just a woman enjoying restoration projects.
Youre doing a fantastic job with the boat! I love checking back to see whats happening :)
I completely agree. There is a small curve to the floor since it is made to drain a specific way. However if it is possible to use larger tiles and strategically place them in a way that will drain properly I am all in on this ideas. Thanks
@@AuroraRestorationProject I completely get it :)
I can recomend that you take a look in a catalog from ISSA ,international shipshandlers association catalog , I dont know if its on line but I think so . They used to have oldstyle parts for ships . Otherwise gadani beach outside carachi , pakistan has a site wher you can find oldstyle things from ships they scrap down on the beach .
If each bathroom or joined rooms shared a on demand hot water heater you could remove miles and miles of pipes from the boat not needing hot and cold running water.
If you don't have one yet, I can't recommend enough the most magical tool ever for removing rusted screws and light bolts and nuts - its called a "shake n break" and goes on the end of any old air impact hammer. It's not like an impact driver since it doesn't twist the screw as it vibrates, it just vibrates the hell out of the screw head and you gently turn it by hand with the driver handle. It's $50 and has paid for itself a hundred times over for me on rusty screws and small bolts that would absolutely have sheared off any other way.
Only downside is it requires air and a small cheap pneumatic air hammer but I can't begin to stress just how well that stupid little tool works on the most corroded stuff.
Interesting. Just looked it up on UA-cam and seems like something we would definitely use. We have lots of air happens kicking around. Next time I’m took shopping this will be on the list. Thanks
Try Fergusons for plumbing supplies.
Thanks, Will do. I have heard good things so far.
if you are restoring her it would be prudent to use period correct looking stuff like the tiles, love what you have done so far
You are 100% correct.
You could also use period correct for some cabins and update others to a more current decor. Probably avoid the (date very fast) grey everyone uses today. But check out the Dulux classic range. I doubt it’s available your side of the pond/continent but their web page gives a good facsimile.
What happened to the Horn, kitchen, engine, swimming pool?
More videos coming up. Took a break for a bit with other projects but back to producing videos and all questions will slowly be answered.
Ooh one idea .. according to my observations, they did not have a cabinet under the sink , it was left open ,with a chrome legs .. I think ..
Find a plumbing supply house that has a showroom. You are looking for the "T&S" brass faucet line. they have the look, are solid brass with plated finish and nearly indestructible- also repairable. They have hardware that should fit most every cabin and kitchen piece you will need. All from one Mfg, one parts train. Btw, "Made in the USA" last I looked. Same people should be able to show you some lavy bowls as well as toilets . But your lead pipe supply will need to be removed and redone- I don't know of any presently made porcelain that will use it. I'm thinking you should be at least resolving all the "behind or under the floor issues " before you start tiling.
1x1 black and white checker board
Like the idea of the black and white checkerboard. I guess what it boils down to is what I can find with side tiles for the shower. That’s the rounded tiles that fit around the base. I will have to do some searching. Thanks for the thoughts.
I just saw on a news channel (FOX40 NEWS) that this poor old girl has sunk. Sadly, in my opinion, she should now be scrapped ASAP as the hull this is already compromised will quickly rot from the inside out if she were to be raised.
On your water fixers you could check your local metal scrap yard For I work for one For. We get vintage taps come
will you ever make a video of starting up the engines of it?
I think if I were you I would get a corner shower unit to help contain the water exposure for the bathrooms of this size. Something like the Breeze 32 in. L x 32 in. W x 72.81 in. H Round Corner Shower Kit with Clear Framed Sliding Door in Chrome and Shower Pan. Home depot has these for example. This has a simple look that can meld well with a retro 60's look. It will cut down on all the tile work and the small round tiles will look good with a corner shower unit. They can be rounded off or squared off etc. Go with what looks the best. If you choose to go with the exposed hot cold water lines to the shower head like are there now it will look good that way also. The Electrical definitely needs replacing and I would look at LED replacements that look like they are from the 60's like the Czech ceiling lights or Amorphous Czech wall sconce lights.
Interesting ideas, I would need to measure things out and see what enclosed showers are actually available but can certainly envision the concept. Czech lights. Will have to dig into that and see what we are talking about.. Thanks for the advice.
While you might want to restore a cabin or two to the 1960s era, but I see no problem upgrading the decor of most of the cabins to current era, so no worries about keeping various things like the medicine cabinet.
I'd Love to see how cabin 228 came out. Any updates?
Amazing what one can do with a 8in1 screwdriver 😮.
I would go with a pastel color on the walls. Or if the bathroom is the shower too. A light pastel colored tile.
The floor a nice nonskid tile.
I do like the round white and light grey floor tiles they add a little interest to the floor.😅
Rv supplies, or in New Zealand there is a company called Burnsco.
They supply everything for yachts and boats.
There is bound to be a shop in the US that is similar
The robin's egg blue is surprisingly nice and period! Not every wall must be blue though lol
Where's the guy's that used to help you out, or is it just you now. Great video 🇬🇧
They are here every now and again. They have been working on their own projects. You can expect to see them in more videos but we have lots of new volunteers to introduce as we go.
Plus to me is ,there is one way , "your way", your taste, your design, your budget . Hahahah it always seems to interfere with others taste n money.. hahahha she looks great sir..
Goboard is awsome so easy to work with.
Good to know. Tempted to give it a try.
@@AuroraRestorationProject it cuts like sheetrock and you use a polyurathan chalk to seal edges and screws.
Try Floor and Decor, very large inventory or ceramic tiles
Wall at the shower will need a water proof compound on the wall board before tiling.
Sad to hear the news ❤she sank
SENHOR CRISTHIANS, TENHO VISTO SEUS SITE DA REFORMA DO NAVIO ACHO VOCÊ DE UMA CORAGEM INCRÍVEL E FAZER TAL PROJETO FUNCIONAR. DESEJO MUITA SAÚDE, BOA SORTE E QUE OS AUXILIARES QUE ESTÃO JUNTO COM VOCÊ TENHAM SAÚDE BOA VONTADE ETC. GOSTARIA DE ESTAR AI PARA AJUDAR A TERMINAR ESSE PROJETO, MAS QUE TUDO CORRA BEM E QUE VENHA SINGRAR OS MARES COM ESSE BELE NAVIO REFORMADO QUE TEM UMA GRANDE HISTÓRIA POR TRÁS. OK
If your looking for inspiration, have a look at the ship “Fingal” berthed in leith, Edinburgh, Scotland 😎
Interesting, Will have a look. Thanks..
Try to pick durable products and also keeping in mind try to keep the weight down so when you apply to the other cabins less fuel for the engine's having to haul the extra weight, but needing to replace the concrete floor if it's a must.
With the leds lights and ip rating 65 should also help the power generators not work so hard.
Any comment on the sunken Tug boat?
Was a very sad day for such a beautiful historic tug. There will be more to say later but not in this message string.
Hey been watching since episode 1. Really enjoying the progress. If you fix these rooms yourself, you will need three lifetimes.. you need serious help
What your seeing in my videos is just a small part of what goes on aboard the Aurora. Many project we do will never make it into film.
How about harvest all available original fittings in the other bathrooms and use them for one or two 50’s bathrooms, then use other fittings for the rest?
I’m just curious, are you restoring the ship to 100% operating condition or just something similar to the Queen Mary where it will be a floating hotel and event center?
100% operating
like a floating hotel/museum to the ship, he said he might get one engine running again so it could move under its own power if needed
Ja ich kann dir nur empfehlen Helgoland zu besuche. Ein kleiner Tip bleibe mindestens 2 Tage auf der Insel es gibt nichts schöneres als auf dem Oberland zu sein wenn die tagesgäste die Insel verlassen und danach die Ruhe der Insel zu genießen.
Schöne Grüße aus Schleswig-Holstein dem schönsten Bundesland von Deutschland.
I hope a new video comes out soon
Chris what market are you looking at to attract people to want to cruse on your ship once finished? Alan
The next years will determine if she is best suited for shoreside attraction or the potential of a massive retrofit back into cruising.
Talking about how the room hit 105°F/40°C reminded me that there's no A/C on the ship for summer. Sounds rough, i'd be dead at those temperatures.
Ah bro, I wish I had known you were doing bathroom's. I spent years as a bathroom designer and most of my builds were renovations from the 60's and 70's
I'll email you about it and I can help create some mood boards to follow for the design elements. If you want any advice or help with tiling or products hit me up
those shirts look sweet, You should make some without the restoration project text
What are the cabin walls made of?
Plywood
If you yuse Grey gipsom its not for yuse in bathroom you need green plate this is stronger because there is in the plate there is fiber wirering as wappening to make it stronger and keep water out
Good call, I will have to investigate a bit more but like the idea.
I yuse to be a carpenter on inland ships in the netherlands i tailing and making bathrooms in a house
How do I give two thumbs up?
You just did. Thanks
ESSE ÚLTIMO ASULEJO REVESTIMENTO É O MAIS BONITO ESCOLHERIA ESSE PARA REFORMA GERAL DOS BANHEIROS, USANDO APENAS UM PADÃO PARA TODOS OS BANHEIROS
looking good so far! but before buying a lot of wall board, you really should figure out the plumbing layout/repair first. And you have no idea yet of the quality of the structure behind the board yet... You have supply lines, drain lines and vents that you might want to put IN the walls behind that board and drains to go under the floor repair...
What is the draft of the aurora
12ft draft
I would just forgo tile all together and just have concrete floors. It'll be cheaper, and way longer lasting. Easier to clean and maintain. you can stain and seal them. and realistically if you perp them you could do them all at once and it'll save you a ton of time. I would even just consider doing the bedroom floors the same way. I get people want to keep it retro but why. Im sure the original owners would have loved to have updated it all. Why not make it look better than ever while also being stronger than ever. My opinion would be to update all the bedrooms and if you wanna keep anything retro/vintage, just make all the public spaces so.
I am wondering why you are doing each cabin individually vs gutting them all and purchasing replacement fixtures and items like tiles in bulk? Wouldn't that be more cost effective and create consistency? Of course the funding is tougher but ultimately will get you a better result.
Possibly to see what works well and the likely problems rather than have a contractor guess and bake in a large margin for error. I am getting more into this channel with the level of detail shown recently. I think he would be well advised to talk to a couple of boat chandlers to understand more of the gotchas but I suspect he has a lot of experience and friends in the marine industry. The only thing I would have done slightly differently is to avoid tossing any original fittings until the final project plan is set in stone. Many of these items can be used to repair the nicer ones if he wishes to have a few "retro" cabins e.g. towel rails have survived 40+ years of use so they might seem flimsy but obviously are tougher than they look !
One thing he might want to look at is to merchandise some of the excess original fittings to channel viewers - "Your little piece of Aurora at home ..."
Look forward to seeing how he decides !
What’s up with the coast guard ship?
I would say this is less of a restoration and more of a renovation
It's tragic what happened to her.
Smaller sink and cabinet will give you more room. Shower curtains are hard to keep clean a single pane of glass or a half wall would be better.
I feel a scream at the screen coming on. Remove any wood, replace the wood with thin set cement on the floor. The entire bathroom is part of the shower, the curb at the entrance keeps the water in and flowing to the drain. Try to keep porous products to a minimum to control mold and mildew.
For the floor tiles, find some with a "matte" surface for slip resistance. The shower corner should have non-porous surfaces, perhaps going all the way to the overhead. Period specific choices should lean away from 1970 avocado and towards the the blue of the paint.
Check the distance from the bulkhead to the center of the water closet drain, and select a toilet based on that measure. Otherwise, it is cut and weld time for a closet flange. The existing waste pipe looks to be Oakum and Lead.
Knock some walls down and make some proper state rooms
We have..
"This is kinda cool, this pipe is lead"
I don't think I'd call that cool...lol
You do realize that it is a drainage pipe. We won’t be reusing use the same but many old ships have lead drainage pipes.
Where are yall based? If I am able to, would yall be willing to let me come out and volunteer to help?
The Aurora is in Stockton, California.
We are located in Stockton California.
Golly. That's the opposite side of the US from me. Well, If I somehow can make it over there, I'd love to help out for a couple days @@AuroraRestorationProject
i love this project but why is the video quality just 720p ? :/
What's the songs name on minute 5:53?
Die Fliesen die im Badezimmer verlegt sind scheinen original Fliesen zu sein. Ich wohne in einem Haus das 1968 gebaut wurde und dort habe ich in der Küche immer noch die original Fliesen liegen und es sind die selben
I see you are looking at one cabin but this one cabin is part of a system of interconnected cabins. Wouldn't it be easier to gut the cabins entirely then reimagine the cabins as they may have been replacing all of the wiring and plumbing in one go? Former owners did no justice to the spaces and destroyed what was once a nice living space.
This cabin is part of a block of 5 cabins. Those 5 cabins will be turned into 3 cabins. Two with large spaces and this small cabin we are digging into now. Your 100% correct. If I replace the plumbing on one I have to do them all. Have already mapped everything out and I’m prepared to run new pipe to all.
I had a thought on your cabins, I'll throw it out there. In India and Bangladesh they ship breaking cruise ships. Modern cruise ship cabins are made of steel and are unitized, just roll them in and plug them in. I wonder if you could make a deal with them to get a bunch of cabins and have them shipped over. Crazy idea but you could get a lot of material that you need at a much lower cost than the hardware store.
Are you able to make water on the ship ?
I understand the need for retro but I don`t think its a good idea in shower/toilet areas. People expect high quality amenities on cruise ships today which means wet rooms which need to be sealed from the main structure to avoid corrosion. Also the materials need to be able to withstand daily cleansing. An amazing project and I wish you well ... Best wishes from the UK
following your project from the very beginning here from Germany! Keep the great work up! Don´t expect too much from Helgoland - it was build up from ruins so all post WWII architecture to look in 60´s and 70´s style... Never the less a nice day trip on the sea from Cuxhaven or even Hamburg.
Same here, living pretty close to Cuxhaven :-)
I'd be using postcard images from 50s or 60s from the destinations she visits, blown up and used as each room's decor theme. It would make each room more like a boutique hotel rather than generic matchy matchy. But I'd put in a teak panelled feature wall in each to link to the modernist/nautical past and give continuity to the look of the cabins. The bathroom mostly needs those ugly pipes concealed in the design. Using decorative niches to embed essentials to make it look intentional would work.
Some great ideas. We just so happen to have some of the old postcards kicking around. Definitely taking nots on your message. Love the ideas. Thanks
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Your commitment is an inspiration! I love watching your progress!
I'm going to assume that you will be restoring more than one bathroom. As such, you should be reaching out to manufacturers for bulk discounts and sponsorship (ala "This Old House") Manufacturers will also help you with design expertise. I'm sure you have lots of storage space for bulk deliveries. Buying retail for your project will kill you.
I would like to see a cream bathroom with wood tone trim . A molded shower and matching wall mount toilet. Glass tiles for accents and backsplash with two tone tile on the deck. You could do this in every cabin and just change the floor tiles if you want other colors.
That would be cool, Can actually visualize that from your description.
Those small tiles would be 20s to mid 40s. By the 50s and 60s you would have larger tiles with combos tile pink and black or green and beige.
That’s good info. Guess we won’t be using the small ones
when are you gonna renovate the bridge
Chris, also your video producing skills have improved a lot! Great work with the boat and thanks for taking the time to tell us the story.
Pink sinks were common back then, so were pastel greens, yellows and blues so it is original so is the cabinet underneath and that medicine cabinet. Light I don't know. looks homemade to me.
Thinking to keep the sink and cabinet but definitely going to loose the light..
Three things
1. Rat control and damage. Is it an issue?
2.
Have approached Mercedes for sponsorship?
3. Are getting any film scene work?
Rats and mice are not an issue and have never been.
We have been approached by Maybach
We film movies aboard but not for profit.