Franco's Spain: from Outcast to Ally
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2020
- Our historical documentary series on the history of the Cold War continues with a video describing the post World War in Spain, as Franco tries to get under the shadow of Hitler to find a way to enter the international community.
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You should cover Juan Peron also. His complicated legacy becomes critical to understanding what happens in Argentina and the rest of Latin America as the cold war develops.
Once upon a time when Argentina was the creditor nation...
Hard to belive that after ww2 Argentina was one of the richest countries in the world
That's where dictatorship gets you
@@daddy_1453 Argentina is THE west dumbass
@@daddy_1453 or that's what the Great Depression and corruption gets you
But that's way too easy of an answer to the internet
@@mangonel exactly that's what i say, that's what dictatorship GETS YOU
So glad this channel exists, Spainish history, at least for English audiences, basically ends at the civil war before it suddenly becoming a democracy of sorts with everything in the middle a black hole
Very true. At least, that's how we learned / were taught in school.. I'm sure the perception would probably be different if you asked (any) someone who studied (and graduated as Master of) Political Science (or just studied ^PS^) Of course, schools can't teach you everything, just point at the key events, and maybe guide one to the right direction; but after I had a chat with some friends we all came to the same conclusion - all of us had a gap in what we knew and had learned at school from Hannibal to the conquistadors and up till the end of the civil war.. From there on, the next thing we knew was that it'd become a favourite for package tours to Costa del Sol, the Canary Islands or Ibiza.. 😎
I've filled the gap in my education since then and have a decent understanding on the post-war events and modern history, and I'm sure most people want to learn and to better understand the world that we live in, and gain this knowledge during the growing old bit.. 🧐
Cheers & Stay safe out there!
@@yaragi Schools apparently have a hard time teaching History - at least prior to university. Over here in Quebec our history classes (when I was in school 20 years ago) consisted of a very generic World History class that spent too much time on Prehistory (go figure) and didn't have time to reach the 20th century before the year ended...
...And another one two years later based on Quebec/Canada history, which focused solely on how the French lost the 7 years war, how the Louis Riel rebellion in Manitoba was crushed and the how man was hanged by the English (without providing context for his treasonous actions), The Durham report which criticized the French in Quebec, the failed "Patriotes" rebellion in 1838 and the subsequent hanging of the leaders in 1839 (while omitting to mention that Anglos had their own rebellion a year earlier and that Anglos participated actively in the 1838 one) ...and the abuse that the early Canadian government imposed on the Indians.
In short, that history class was purpose-built for young "Québécois" to hate the "Anglos"
Because of guilt, wrkniw we should have removed Franco with the other fascists but we left him in power,
@@BattlestarZenobia 1. Who is we?
2. How for should you go to remove him?
3. What practical reason was there to remove him?
Salokin this other channel’s series on Spanish Morocco might interest you it talks a lot about that time period: ua-cam.com/play/PLlnEcGrq0PFa0Wkj3uU4yTqeaCLXBK1Ou.html
Funny thing, I live in an American made house for their officers assigned to the near airbase, which is still functional to this day.
Zaragoza?
Rota Spain has that Navy base built when Franco opened up to the West. I got a buddy stationed out there now. He says Spain is an amazing country to be in.
@@enriquepes2649 Caesaraugusta
The Royal Oaks (El Encinar de los Reyes)?
@@kaijudude_ alot of spanish cities are really ugly compared to alot of northern western european ones
Now that you've tackled Francoist Spain, how about Portugal during the Salazar/Estado Novo regime? Are you also gonna make an episode about it?
Probably, you would focus on Portugal's plutocracy and the wars to preserve their colonies like Goa, Angola and Mozambique. Maybe even the Carnation Revolution.
Disapointed they didnt mention Portugal in which was alrrady trying to being Spain in and was one of the founding members of NATO (the only non democratic member of NATO), Portugal was essencial in some aspects for Spain be normalized in the international community.
@@gordusmaximus4990 Greece and Turkey had their periods of authoritarian rule too though.
@@tylerbozinovski4624 yes, but Portugal was the founding member of NATO with fascist vibes, but that point (specially with fascism not being nice anymore) a authoritarian conservative right wing dictatorship.
They already said they were going to do it at some point.
Rhodesia and South Africa should be the next
Topic Suggestion for future episode : The Free territory of Trieste
( The free territory of Trieste was a diverse Indipendent territory in central Europe between 1947 and 1954 it was spilt between Italy and yogoslavia in 1954. It would make an Interesting episode.)
Exactly...
I think this is partly covered in the Italy episode, but I'm not sure.
As a triestino (citizen of Trieste) I agree.
Already done
I remember my grandmother telling me when she lived in Spain in the 50s, the ballots would read “Franco, si; Communismo no!”
😂
@@ShubhamMishrabro Propaganda by the Francoists who forced themselves into power. It should say Nazi's NO since Franco was aided and best friends with Hitler
@@asturiasceltic3183 huh
@@asturiasceltic3183 Hitler hated Franco, he literally said to Mussolini he'd rather have his teeth pulled out than meet him again.
Hitler gave Franco a Nazi flag that Franco has in his home. Franco supplied Hitler with the materials from Galician mines for the tanks. Franco allowed Hitler to bomb Basqueland. Franco was in communication with Hitler during WWII and gave him a list of all jews in Spain for the "final solution." Just google all the photos of Franco with Hitler shaking hands, meeting with each and Franco doing the Nazi salute that the Nationalists still do TO THIS DAY
Spaniard here. You've explained this way better than most of our own teachers. Props to you and keep up the good work!
Please talk about Mexico's Perfect Dictatorship, where the same party was in power for over 70 years!
Still is. New name, same shit but even worse government. Muerte a amlo
@oh_man 15 diaz did some good to the state :/
@oh_man 15 they call it perfect in Mexico, because it was a stealthy dictatorship with fraudulent elections posing as a democracy. To give an example, during those 70 years of "perfect" dictatorship, the 1976 election was won with 100% of votes... Complete BS.
@oh_man 15 yep miraculously
O wow that’s why they are rich with people not wanting to leave their beloved country
If Spain had joined the Axis it couldn’t even have defended itself from Britain and the USA. Franco wanted support for his insurrection, not to join the Axis. He had everything to lose if he had. Spain needed imports of food and oil from the USA
May be if UK was about to lose and with a short war ahead. Remember US was not at war at that time.
After Battle of Britain it was obvious that It was going to be a long war, 0% possibilities of Spain joining any side, defeat granted.
@@enriquepes2649 .... Franco was a smart man. He recognized the obvious
Honestly, I don’t think Germany would have accepted Spain as a military ally even if Franco had offered. I can see how the Prussian tradition would see Spain more as a liability than an ally from a military perspective. I mean, the only significant “victory” the military tradition Franco represented, literally in centuries, had been against their own (manly) unarmed civilian population... and they only because Germany and Italy helped.
@@javiermesa-martinez8731 The republicans and communists weren't unarmed...
@@Idahoguy10157 true, just google Churchill's opinion on Franco. He also refused Lyndon B. Johnson invitation to intervene in Vietnam 😂😂😂😂
I know that you guys are annoyed by "Are you going to cover X thing?" questions but I would be highly delighted if you would dedicate more episodes for the situation and important event that were happening in non-Russian SSRs.
not annoyed by requests at all, to be honest! and thank you for the suggestion
@@TheColdWarTV Hi. So you like suggestions? Ok Can you do nationalist Salazer Portugal as well please? Thanks.
We Wish to feature about the Khmer Rouge
Ending in the Cambodian-Vietnamese War
Khmer Rouge is Vietcong’s trash.
gamer rouge
Again, another high quality video, rich in details and with an excellent direction. As a fan and an interested in world history in the Cold War period I congratulate you and wish you much success ahead.
Franco: If I just don't move, perhaps they won't notice me at all
Best history channel ever!!!
You tell those stories in such a great way that I can't stop listening!
Cheers, mate!
Interestingly in the 1970's the coal combine HUNOSA in northern Spain imported a significant quantity of Soviet mining equipment including the unusual "Gyroz" kinetic mechanical locomotives built in Ukraine. Many years ago I was visiting a Spanish colliery and I noticed the amount of Soviet mining equipment present.
My guide noted that it was purchased because it was very robust and ideal for the conditions in the northern Spanish coalfields.
He went on to point out "Trade is trade. Politics are politics!".
The US: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
you should mention than in 1944, there was actually an "invasion" of fascist Spain, in the battle of the Vall d'Aran. There, for a week, anti-francoist forces gathering from southern France, controled part of the Aran valley, in the Catalan Pyrenees for some days, and fought francoist army forces. It was a failure, and about 150 people died in the combats.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Val_d%27Aran
good. it still takes some bull
We should have sent allied forces to unseat that Fascist basted!
@@BattlestarZenobia yes, that would have been apreciated. And consideeing the dismal conditions of the economy and army, it would had fallen easyly enough.
another failure by communists, socialists and anarchists
@@therecusantluddite1133 a failure again due to a lack of moral fibre on the part of democracies that should have united against Franco
Really serious video
couldnt avoid laughing when at half of the video UA-cam puts a Vox ad
absolutly hilarious
It was intentional! ;)
Hi David I am from Spain and I loved that video it's obvious that you do a good job in research , and the information it's pretty accurate also I want to tell you that I love your channel I am preparing one about history too so I hope that pretty soon we can exchange videos and info .
Great video, but I think you should've also talked about how Spain also did things that the U.S. didn't like, for example, Spain didn't support the U.S. embargo on Cuba and was one of the only Western countries to maintain good relations with Cuba, Spain also refused to send troops to Vietnam when the U.S. requested, etc.
That last part is wrong. Spain launched a covert operation in which medical and support personnel were sent to assist American and South Vietnamese forces, on the condition that they stay unofficial.
Spain also created under the rule of Primo de Rivera the company CAMPSA: a fuel refining and distribution monopoly that annoyed the 'Seven Sisters' quite a lot, till the fall of the Monarchy in 1931...
I heard Franco say that the “Vietnamese were more nationalist than communists”
@@MrFeynmanDiagram CAMPSA still exist on Spain
@@latifithetruegoat9094 CAMPSA is nowdays practically disolved in REPSOL and smaller companies (CLH, etc)
Can you make an episode on Portugal during "Estado Novo" when Salazar declared neutrality, and Lisbon was the "capital of spies" during WW2
Thanks
I hope that you will make also an episode about Portugal
Thank you
O'Rilley Builder: "Where is the Generalissimo?"
Manuel: "In Madrid!"
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Yay! I love this topic!
I grew up during the end of the cold war...late 70s and 80s...but of course they never taught contemporary history back then...so seeing this as history...not news is fascinating and well done...and puts it in a new perspective...
Mussolini really should have gone Franco's way.
Yes I've often thought of how Mussolini is really the big imbecile of World War Two, he easily could have taken the Franco, Salazar, Peron route and sort of played both sides and come out of the war with Italy basically intact and himself in power for another couple of decades likely.
If Mussolini had done that, no Italians would have died in WW2 and lots of lives would have been spared but Italy (my country) would have gotten another thirty years of fascism... No thank you.
@@Thaumazo83 Mussolini should have gone Franco's way if he knew what was best for him, but it's a good thing he didn't ^^
@@ArkadiBolschek I wholeheartedly agree with what you write
Just imagine, we could've had 80 year old Mussolini still shuffling around in the 1960s.
Love the Franco poster behind your right shoulder.
You should post in the description the various music you use in the background of the various videos.
I'm excited for when you guys get around to covering the Third Wave of Democracy
I think u should do an episode on Portugal nxt who had similar regime
Would definitely like more Latin orientated topics, be in Argentina and Peronism, Bolivia and the National Revolution, Brazil and its the junta, Portugal and Salazar, Venezuela and Pérez Jiménez, and in my country's case...Quebec and the Quiet Revolution.
Latin oriented? Spain as Italy is a Latin country, so here you are
Finally!!! I was just craving for more post-war status of the Western countries. Will you cover Benelux and Canada soon maybe?
What about covering the effects of Franco's death and what it really meant for the Cold War?
Remember that the channel is going through the Cold War in roughly chronological order. There's still a lot of ground to cover before Franco's death.
By the time of Franco’s death Spain was already integrated back into the international community and was firmly in the US sphere. His death didn’t really matter that much at that point, but if it had happened sooner then maybe it would’ve had a greater impact on Spain’s role in the Cold War.
Watching this at 00:01 am in Australia
Couldn’t be better
Do one about Puerto Rico!
President Dwight Ike Eisenhower visited Spain in 1953 and his visit symbolized that Spain wasn't any more a poor fascist state run by el caudillo Francisco Franco.
The USA and the free world had just welcomed an old face in the fight against commies.
is there a way to watch this series from the beginning without having to manually hit the videos? When I hit the play video on this list, it starts at the newest, and I want it to flow oldest first
Play from playlist. Autoplay there
So from 1945 everyone was either pro Moscow or Washington whether they liked it or not. Such were automatic allegiances.
Or the Non-Alligned movement
@@javiermesa-martinez8731 Spain had to pick a side in their position.If they stayed neutral than Commies and capitalists will come after them.
Imagine being sanctioned by Ussr and USA
Oppressed the bell button,
Censored the bell button,
Nuked the bell button,
Forgiven the bell button.
If you think David makes videos more fun by abusing the bell button in various ways, please break the thumb off the like button.
{Just kidding. ;-)}
You could have mentioned the milestone of the Hendaya Conference where Franco saved Spain's neutrality against Hitler. Also, even before the end of WWII, Spain was gradually showing policies closer towards the allies by returning the Division Azul by 1943 from the Eastern Front (the Division Azul would deserve a full video) , reducing its deliveries of essential raw materials for the war (Wolfram) to Germany and even declaring Spain as being aligned with the Allies against Japan while remaining still close to Germany. Spain's gradual distancing from Germany was also due to bribes paid by the UK to Generals and personalities of the Regime close to Franco. During the Cold War, you could have mentioned the role of the Republican exiles in fueling the antagonism by some countries (Mexico, France). The fact that Franco's regime and diplomatic network in occupied Europe saved so many Jews also played a role in Spain's return to the international fora. You rightly mentioned the internal referendum which is often neglected. You could have mentioned also the law of amnesty for all crimes committed during the civil war, which allowed the return of many exiled Republicans and the formation by Franco of a technocrats Government in the sixties away from the phalangist right wing movement that supported his rise to power.
Franco's regime gave Hitler a list of all Jews for the "final solution." He is also recorded at rallies saying anti-semitic things. Franco helped save many Nazi war criminals by having them go through Spain into Latin America
Definitely looking forward for a video about the Brazilian "populist" republic of 1946-64 and the military regime
Could you please let me know what music you used starting at 11:00 ? Thank you!
Its kinda funny how he was like "how did a fascist state go on to be an anti-communist ally of the US" with very little sense of irony haha
I wouldn't talk about fascism for franco
It's curious the way some comments disappear 😅😂😂😂😂😂
@@MrFeynmanDiagram Verrry curious
Oh, it's the same irony Wall Street had while making good money in Nazi Germany, you know: Standard Oil, IG Farben, General Electric, General Motors and all that... These factories were rarely affected by British or American bombardments, it's verrry curios 😂😂😂
@@MrFeynmanDiagram How is that curious? There wasn't any embargoes or sanctions, so companies could sell with whom they wish. Hell, it was US industries that helped the USSR with its manufacturing miracle by selling to them as well despite the US being "anti-Communist". Wow, it's almost like...a country's government and specific individuals can have differing views. Did you also know that Americans fought for and against Francoist Spain in the Spanish Civil War? :D
Would be incredible if you talk about 1968 in Mexico
As a Spaniard I have never heard of oloroso. I've heard of orujo and other drinks that fluctuate from being a drink for old people to hip and cool.
I don't mean offense, but who writes like that? 10:56
I'm genuinely curious as I've never seen a writing style like that.
Please do a video on Argentina or Mexico.
FINLAND became a member of the UN in 1955 after having been a victim of the USSR, while the USSR was a founding member of the UN
Hey could also please cover the sino indian war and india pak war of 1962 and 1965 respectively.
One could only imagine the alternative timeline where Germany became a “moderate fascist” state didn’t start ww2 and commit genocide and the Cold War breaks out and Eisenhower and hitler are in an alliance against Soviet expansion
the allies were already preparing for a war against the soviet union since it invaded finland until hitler prevented that and instead made the war all against him. if hitler for some reason ignored the whole revanchism thing and the lebansraum shit then WW2 would certainly be interesting with a germany being a third party
I'm your fan
1:22 You got this completely wrong. They had fascists and monarchists who despised the nazis and had their claimant to the throne, Prince Xavier, arrested and sent to Dachau.
Hitler was Franco's ally during the the Spanish Civil War. There are photos of them being all lovey dovey to each other on Google. Hitler even gave Franco a Nazi flag that Franco proudly displayed in his home. Also, Franco gave Hitler a list of all Jews in Spain for the "Final Solution."
@@asturiasceltic3183 "The Jewish people and the State of Israel remember the humanitarian attitude adopted by Spain during the Hitler era, when they gave aid and protection to many victims of Nazism." - Golda Meir, former Prime Minister of Israel and Minister of Foreign Affairs (Debate in the Israeli Parliament, Knesset,on February 10, 1959).
"Franco's Spain was an important refuge for Jews who risked coming, escaping from the France of liberty, fraternity and equality. I don't want to defend Franco, but in World War II many Jews were saved in Spain and to ignore him is to ignore history." - Israel Singer, President of the World Jewish Congress (Interview in El Mundo,December 17, 2005).
"Jewish power was not able to change Roosevelt's policy toward Jews during World War II. The only country in Europe that really lent a hand to the Jews was a country in which there was no Jewish influence: Spain, which saved more Jews than all democracies combined." - Schlomo Ben Ami, Israeli Foreign Minister and Israel's Ambassador to Spain (Statements to the magazine Época in 1991).
"I have evidence that the Spanish Head of State, Francisco Franco,saved more than sixty thousand Jews during World War II. It is high time that someone thanked Franco for it. (Speaking to Newsweek magazine in February 1970.)" Chaim Lipschitz, author of 'Franco, Spain, the Jews and the Holocaust'.
"Generalissimo Francisco Franco, Head of the Spanish State, died on November 20, 1975. Regardless of how history judges him, what is certain is that in Jewish history he will occupy a special position. In contrast to England, which closed the borders of Palestine to Jews fleeing Nazism and destruction, and in contrast to democratic Switzerland which returned to Nazi terror the Jews who came knocking on its doors for help, Spain opened its border with occupied France, admitting all refugees, without distinction of religion or race. Professor Haim Avni of the Hebrew University, who has spent years studying the subject, has concluded that a total of at least 40,000 Jews were saved, lives that were saved from going to the German gas chambers, either directly through the Spanish interventions of their diplomatic representatives. or thanks to Spain's opening its borders" - The American Sephardic Association.
@@Isidore_de_Sevilla Look up "Jewish Archive" under Franco. Franco worked with Heinrich Himler and Franco was heard himself to use slurs against Jews during speech. Your little post is from Franco's own little pamphlet "Jews in Spain." Keep suckling on Franco's propaganda and teeth and parroting.
@@asturiasceltic3183 Half of those quotations were made after Franco's death and they're all from Jewish people living outside of Spain including high ranking officials from Israel... And you're telling me that Franco posthumously published a pamphlet which includes these quotes which were made after his death?
I'll refrain from calling you an idiot or a lunatic as I don't know you and we all make mistakes... but I'm certain this isn't your brightest moment.
@@Isidore_de_Sevilla NO they weren't. Franco compiled the archive himself. And anything said afterwards just proves how terrified they were of that short, fat tyranical monster
Can you do an episode on political repression in the Soviet Union?
Hey. Good people of the at the cold War I was wondering what was going on with Mongolia during the cold War especially after the Sinosoviet split I imagine it was a fiasco
Mongolia continued being a close Soviet ally throughout the Cold war. Rather boring...
Can you make videos on the Indo-Pak wars during the cold war?
Do Portugal next.
A nicely informative video. Have you ever considered doing a special on Franco himself. It might be interesting. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Franco as a person was an incredibly unremarkable individual. The only notable thing about him, and the chief reason for his successs, was his staunch commitment to his own interests over everything else.
@@ArkadiBolschek---Maybe or maybe not.
@@brokenbridge6316 The point is, if they're going to make special episodes on individual protagonists of the Cold War, there are plenty of people more interesting (and more relevant) than Franco.
@@ArkadiBolschek
Yes, can’t wait for the communist perspective…
You are a joke.
@@z1ll4jr53 What do you expect from a commie
I bet Stalin would have loved to get his hands on Spain
@@javiermesa-martinez8731 Stalin had Spain . That’s what the war was about .
@@javiermesa-martinez8731 he had control of the 2nd republic. Read George Orwell .
@@javiermesa-martinez8731 he was there supporting the communist. And wrote what happened.
@@javiermesa-martinez8731 and the republicans where communist . I can’t sit here and argue. People out there. Read George Orwell letters and notes and learn the truth .
@@javiermesa-martinez8731 hi iam also spanish the republic was a puppet thats why many intelectuals like for example Unamuno swap sides cut the cope Javier
Not all nationalists were pro nazi or even fascist there was also monarchists (Mainly Carlists and Alfonsists) and very conservative Catholics that just would rather side with the nationalist than the Republicans
It's so ridiculous how they all group the nationalist as Nazi sympathizers or Fascist when those two groups were a small minority among the right wingers.
@@biggusdickus819 it’s exactly the same way Mussolini and Hitler seized power right wing groups working with fascists when they really should have known better
@@BattlestarZenobia So they should’ve sided with commies lmao.The enemy of my enemy is my friend
@@BattlestarZenobia Well the nazis were a little more Crazy then the other fascist expected
What about VietNam war?? Can u make series about it?
After the creation of the United Nations, francoist minister of propaganda issued the slogan "Si ellos tienen UNO, nosotros tenemos dos" (If they have UNO (one in spanish) we have two". That was the level...
'The level' of that era is given by the fact that Stalin's Soviet Union was accepted as member of UN (with a essentially fake Constitution) while Spain was rejected, though later on US reconsidered it's decision.
No need Chevy Chase already told us
no no...he is still alive in this episode. Franco will be valiantly holding on in his fight to remain dead in later episodes
Topic for Future Episode:the Philippines under Ferdinand Marcos
Cool!!!! Finally, I believe that Spain under Franco must be discussed in Cold War history. It was a one-party Fascist US-allies In Europe.
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However, I also want to recommend David
Could you make a episode about the US-Taiwan relations under Generalissimo of Chiang Kai-Shek in 1954? 🇹🇼🇺🇸
Because Chiang and Franco had resembled political status, ruling method and international positions in Cold War.
In many ways, Taiwan's position during the Cold War remains unchanged today. I hope Taiwan continues to exist for centuries to come.
@@TheKrieg45 thank you dude,
Chinese Communist Party thinks the Cross-Strait Split is still the extension of Chinese Civil War.
if Taiwan Survives, the Liberal value established by the US could hold on in Indo-Pacific Region.
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@@dkwlin4351 Together with South Korea the Philippines and Japan
taiwan, (true story) the national socialists of china, mainland china, the communists of china.
@@joao_1986 Yes!!!!
I recommend Host can introduce these figures.
Taiwan under Chiang Kai-Shek, South Korea under Park Chung-Hee and Philippines under Ferdinand Marcos were also US anti-Communist Dictatorial Allies
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Actually, Junta of Thailand and South Vietnam were also too.
Yaaaaaaaaaa
Do Greece post 1950's
To quote SNL at the time "Franco is still dead"
Franco is valiantly holding on in his fight to remain dead.
Why does the narrator used that contrived pronunciation of “against”?
0:50 I do wonder how a fascist state, built in the ideals of fascism and extreme nationalism, completely opposed to communism and marxism, became part of the anti communist alliance?
The idea that capitalist democratic states ally with anti capitalist, communist states against fascist states is the source behind Patton's "We fought the wrong enemy" quote
Soviet Union has always been the Boogeyman before and after Hitler
Enemy of my enemy...
@@samuelgordino ...is also my enemy
I think it was Patton who said that
@@luismdgr whoops my bad, I'll change that now ty
3:54 doesn't make sense since one of the allies was an ally of the Axis.
What a journey.... From outcast to ally of US
40 AÑOS DE PAZ
...Y CIENCIA.
@@ArkadiBolschek subcampeón 1939 🥈
@juanancriadillas Imagínate lo que habríamos hecho, y dónde estaríamos ahora, si nos hubiéramos librado de tres años de guerra y cuarenta de dictadura...
@@ArkadiBolschek pobres y medio muertos como Europa del este
George Orwell 1984 was the Spanish Communist (the 2nd Republic). Franco had no choice fighting the reds and becoming a military governor.
No, it wasn't. 1984 was about Franco and his friend Hitler. The man in my avatar is North Spaniard journalist who knew Orwell and had discussions with him about his plans for 1984
@@asturiasceltic3183 hahah !! You better go read Orwell’s notes and letters. He’s clear on his mistake siding with the communist .
@@theomegaman2181984 was about Franco and he does not say 1984 was about Spanish Communism. Such a thing doesn't even exist. . Too bad you never knew him and are trying to speak for him
@@asturiasceltic3183 oh get lost . You obviously don’t know anything g about the 2nd republic .
@@theomegaman218 My family lived it. You obviously are just talking bullshit and a failure.
I think this underplays the support for Franco during the civil war from France, the UK and the US. The arms blockade they enforced basically handed control of the republic over to the Soviets.
FDR supported the Republic. Many Brits like Orwell supported the Republic
Operation Urgent Fury (1983)
When the former allies remember that the biggest anti communists were the facists and that there is still one of the original crew around
Hardly "original"; Franco was a cheap copycat at best.
Fascists are not good people, despite what you people think
@@GoTfan-eb8tk Yes they are bad people. Communists are also on the same level, despite what you think. The documented history & archives supports that. When we say on the same level. That's not an exaggeration
@@GoTfan-eb8tk No shit. But just as we were willing to hold our nose and work with the Communists to screw the Fascists. We can do the same with the Fascists to screw the Communists. Whichever is the bigger threat of the year, really.
People are really idiots. Fascism (and Nazism, which is not the same thing), are both forms of Socalism.
spain and the franco regime could have been compared to (the governments of) portugal, argentina, brazil, mexico, cuba, philippines, colombia, venezuela, chile and other latin countries that were either strongly anti-communist or not. depending on the era, some of these governments were ruled by military dictatorships with fascist-like policies. also, spain and portugal were once colonial powers, while the other latin countries were colonies, so that political ideologies sometimes diverged.
Basically it took them ten years tops to get over the whole WWII thing.
Isn't that interesting...the U.S. freezes out Franco for eight years. "This isn't working, let's try engagement." Freezes out Castro for sixty..."Let's keep it up, any day now."
More like: "that weird spanish guy is still asking to add him on instagram, let me add him so that he might leave me alone"
@A Fels ?? What country did it invade? Before you say, "Angola," I would ask you to compare it to the American intervention in South Vietnam.
@A Fels Oh man. South Vietnam would have never even existed without our own invasion.
And what the Basques and Catalans?
Any recommendations for documentaries about daily life in fascist Spain? I've read and seen films with the typical anti fascist rhetoric, but I met a woman in Florida who told me she lived there in the 70's etc. She claimed there were many misconceptions about life in fascist Spain. She was in theater and other than a push for anti capitalism and anti communism messages, she claimed it was relatively open and free. Would like to learn more about life for people throughout the franco era.
@Humanity Galatica that sounds about right for a political person. I want to learn about everyday life during the time in that place. Farmers, urban workers, teachers, average people.
I think she got a rather realistic impression. It's obvious that I'm not a communist or care about politics... 😅😂😂😂
@@BaltimoresBerzerker After they were done with the purges, it probably was not horrifying, since that's when Spain experienced their economic miracle and became more or less on par with the developed nations of the world.
The state had largely liberalized by the 1970s. In the 1930s - early 1960s it was a poverty ridden hell hole.
According to Weekend Update’s Chevy Chase, Franco is still dead.
Or sakazars Portugal.
Please make a video on the role of cold war in the Indian sub continent.
How did Spain pose a threat to world peace after WWII?
By saving been an ally of the Axis, and being a brutal military dictatorship.
Japan during the cold war please xd
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Cold War 🤨
Cold War, Japan 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Franco closed the Gibraltar border in 8th June 1969 yuo need to do a video about it
Hugh Thomas' 1962 The Spanish Civil War is a fair & balanced account that is still in print. Mexico was a supporter of the Republic, as their 1911-c1923 Civil War/Revolution had a strongly Leftist vibe. The Soviets had an investment in the Spanish Left. They were entrusted with the Spanish gold reserve by the Republic, and drove a hard bargain for their aid, such that at it's fall, they owed money to the Soviets. While a dictator, Franco was not too full of himself, and mellowed with time, probably in large part to being tarred as a Fascist survivor. Fascists were a part, albeit a large one in his Nationalist coalition. This Falange lacked. A lot of the paganism/Socialism endemic to the neo pagan Nazis and anti clerical Fascists.
3:52 the grammar of the quotation is wobbly, and a "not" must have been omitted somewhere. The Spanish gov't does NOT have the qualities necessary.
Yeah, I am puzzled by this as well.
*After WW2*
USSR: "Now that the war is over, we should put pressure on Franco"
USA: "They'll receive no aid then..."
*Years later*
USSR: "Don't you think it's time you do something about Franco's regime?"
Franco: "We killed a lot of commies... A LOT"
USA: "..."
USA: "No, I don't think I will"
USSR: 👁👄👁
Always good for the world when communist die 🤗
Superneckbeard!
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Referandum isn't explained clearly. Monarchy will be restored when Franco goes away, yet Franco has a heir too? How this works? Does he become a so called prime minister under monarch?
No, he just choose the prince that will become king after his death.
@@Marko_184 He put Juan Carlos back in his rightful line of succession.
Also, to call it a "referendum" is a bit of an strech. It was just a mockery to gain some sort of legitimacy.
Farewell and ado to you fair Spanish Ladies . Farewell and ado you Ladies Of Spain
Arriba España
Franco wasn't a Facist, he was a traditionalist Catholic fighting Liberalism and Communism.
So... a fascistic theocrat? That's still a fascist
@@sgtpetergreen Most people, nations and empires prior to the 20th century would be considered "fascist" by that definition. Maybe Liberalism/Communism should be opposed? Don't want to submit to Satanic Globalism? Fascist!
@@Feanor1169 "most nations would be considered fascist by that definition" Yes.
So Catholics comit murderings. How...Catholic 🙄
@@ns7023 Communists aren't people.
It's really funny to see how UN isolated Franco's Spain while they accepted Stalin's Soviet Union as a regular and legit democracy 😅😂😂 BTW, it's still possible to google Churchill's opinions on Franco... You say they are negative??? Coming from a declared enemy of Spain, I find those words quite complimentary, and somewhat pompous.
It´s interesting to have some lesson from this facts. Spain became the world pariah by the isolation. This period was known in Spain as "los años del hambre", "the hunger years", because Spanish common people suffered a lot for food shortage, with a lot of illnesses, malnutrition, etc. A Spanish ambassador, Agustín de Foxá, said to a friend when UN recommended to withdraw ambassadors : "See how they are going to kick Franco... in our asses". Only the wheat and meat from Argentina relieved the terrible situation. The result was a stronger support for Franco from Spanish people, who felt attacked in some way by the other nations: people worries first about his meal, and afterwards, about world strategies, and, if the UN are making you starving, they are not good people...
Can you see a parallel scenario in Cuba, some years later? USA put an economic blockade on this island, tried to kill Castro several times, and, nowadays, there´s still a Communist Party ruling Cuba. Maybe this is not the better way to do things, and this can explain, in some way, the support given by Franco to Cuba, as is quoted in the video.
@@alfonsoherguetagomez1821 spaniard here, back in the franquist years (early franco, the 50s) my grandpa lived in a farm house with like 17 other people because there was a housing crisis, he said they gave food to the children every day and the adults ate every two days only; sometimes there were food shortages and the only thing anyone ate the whole day was fruit layers
one day there wasn't any food at all and a guy stole the fucking skin off an orange which was the only thing there was to eat so one guy who was a police officer rounded up all 17 villagers against the wall including women and children and questioned everyone until they found out who stole the skin, a kid in his late teens, I think he said he was an orphan so the officer took the guy behind the farmland and presumably shot him before dumping his body into the arroyo
Early franquist spain, especially in the rural areas, was glorified anarchism. This ain't left wing bias either to shit on Franco this is coming from a former legion man who served in Africa and votes for center parties
@@miguelpalomares3441 indeed u arent left wing bias because the food situation was caused by the un
@@miguelpalomares3441 Yes, I agree, in this bitter time, you could finish either supporting Franco (as an answer to the democratic countries who makes you starving) or you could became an anarchist (as an answer to Franco, being the remote origin of this punishment).It depends probably from your political origin, in th left, in the raigth or being apolitical. Anyway, you would be hungry an afraid.
@@alfonsoherguetagomez1821 No wonder why Franco felt bad for Cuba and liked Fidel Castro
.He remembered the sanctioned imposed by USA on Spain.