Thanks for putting this together. I love your important work to help people with your organization. For the v2 inner and space, I expect if you tighten the inner peak buckles more to lift the inner height at the two peaks you would find an improvement. The v2 inner is taller, so it should be adjusted closer to the fly at the two peaks to give more headroom and pull the sidewalls tighter/wider. If the inner peak heights are set similar to the v1, then yeah there the sidewalls will be looser and not pulled wider plus no gain in headroom. With the walls tight, the inner width at the height of the door toggles should be quite a bit wider (23" vs 18") even without staking out the side panel guylines. Pulling the inner tighter at the peaks lifts the sides of the floor to make the floor narrower but more headroom. So for your preferences, pulling the inner as high as possible would give that narrower floor with taller sidewalls you prefer and should have quite a bit more headroom/shoulder room. The v1 inner is shorter so it will more naturally have a narrow floor with taller sidewalls, whereas the v2 inner is taller so it has to be adjusted tighter at the peaks to give that effect.
Dan, thanks for reply! Your dedication to your customers is just one more reason as to why your tents-in our opinion (and many others)-outshine the rest. We had both straps pulled up all the way. The V2 albiet slightly (1/2") less. In the summer we pitch the entire tent slightly higher allowing for improved ventiation and assuring headroom is never an issue. For those new to the X-mid tents: the clever design of this tent is its flexibility and the ability to make minor adjustments to the pitch depending on the enrivonment and terrian you're camping in.
@@wildernessmenistry Ahh that makes sense....commonly with the v1 people will loosen the straps all the way to get more floor width, but then the headroom suffers. Indeed if you have your v1 pulled up all the way and don't mind that narrower floor then it will have better headroom similar to the v2. The main thing with the v2 is that it is taller so you can have the headroom and the wider floor without having to pick one. But in your case you don't prefer the wider floor so yeah no real advantage there.
Owning both v1 and v2, what I love most about v2 is the dark inner tent floor. This makes it MUCH easier to figure out where the inside and outside is on the tent when you're rushing to lay it out and get it pitched before the rain falls. I used the v2 for 13 days straight last summer and was surprised at how often I appreciated this feature. I'm a v2 fan for sure.
Thanks for your helpful review. It is nice to see using the same pad that I use. I am setting my first pitch today of the x-mid 1 V2 . Haha 😄 . Also good to hear from Dan on some variations. Being a taller backpacker (6"2) 1 man tents have been to tight. I was shown some major grace from Kaviso Outdoors to even have had the opportunity to buy this tent ( I am not very tech savvy or quick on the click ) and am so thankful. Most of all showing the support to the recovery community is amazing, serving the recovery of people in my community is a passion of mine and will continue on my through hike AT.
Very useful review…thanks. My 1P is on order and I hope to get it this spring. I agree with you that the customer service from Dan Durston and his wife Tara is exceptional and one reason why I chose the 2P and now look forward to the 1P.
Hi! Thank you for informative reviews for X mid 1p (V1 vs V2). I’m Japanese guy considering purchase X mid 1p (V2?) now. Although no chance to buy V1 for me, could you recommend V2? I’m 6 feet tall (183cm).
I got one when they 1st came on the market with the Drop program. Been thinking of getting the version 2 but after seeing this , I'm sticking with my version 1. If I ever decide that I need more room it will be the X-MID-2. ( 2 person )
I found a way around zipper snag is to place a ground peg loop right at the vertical corner. I got so pissed at mine i added one and it seemed to have remedied the problem. so far. Fantastic cause btw. worthy of donation without a free tent. Thanks for your service.
I re-treated my V1 silmylon this past summer - so three summers of trekking I think I got. I don't think I'd bother with the new one though it had crossed my mind. Your critique was pretty throrough. I can't see a compelling reason to buy new. I really like my Durston V1 one person tent. A thoughtful design and a thoughtful vid. Thanks
A really fabulous comparison. Thanks. I do also wish the pockets inside were larger like the V1 but if I can get my hands on a 1 or 2, I'll be trying to mod it :)
Thank you for the comment. We're hoping to get a "hacks for the V1" video out in the near future which will highlight improvements that can be made to the V1 -- taking the best of both versions-- that cost little to no money and add impressively insignificant weight (grams).
Perfect video, exactly what I needed. I have been using the V1 and thought maybe I should get the V2. You helped me to understand there is no need. Thank you!
@@wildernessmenistry One thing I heard mentioned elsewhere is that the V2 is easier to pitch tightly/correctly. Did you find much of a difference there?
Great comparison! I've got the V1 too and it's nice to get a better look at what I'm missing or in this case, not missing with the V2. Though mine was also among the first ever batch to ship which had an issue with the grommets where the trekking pole tips go being too wide for some pole tips and thus putting too much tension on the fabric on the other side and causing a small tear on the outer fabric at the peaks. Easily fixed though with a small patch and modifying the grommets with some narrower rubber grommets inserted into the original grommets.
Thanks for the comment. I appreciate that Dan and his team work toward refining the tent rather than just adding some gimmick "improvements" to sell more. I was able to use a two person X-Mid the other day and noticed it had some of the same features as the V2 1P (such as the trekking pole floor pull-out and loft storage pockets).
I want a comparison of the x-mid 2 and the new x-mid pro. Trying to decide between single and double wall . I know one is 400 grams heavier but I sleep cold. Will it make much difference on a thru hike?
Appreciate the honest review, BUT that's not what I wanted to hear. I have the XMID1 and ordered the new and improved Xmid1 like you. On paper all of the improvements sounded great. Did you find that the pitch was tighter for version2? They apparently changed the pattern and added a slight catenary cut to help increase the tightness of the pitch.
Hi David, there were a few other "improvements" (like the catenary cut that you mentioned) but we tried to cover the larger and most noticable changes. To answer your question, no I did not notice a significant change (if any) in pitch. However, the interior netting did seems sloppier to me if the side guy outs aren't utilized. The V2 is still a great tent! A quick summary could be, "if you have the original X-Mid and you're not a large guy there's really no "need" to upgrade to the second generation X-Mid." I don't think you'll be disappointed in either one.
Great content and comparison. I'm assuming that's a 25" wide pad you used? One recommendation for future comparisons...I would not flip flop the measurements/data back and forth on either side of the screen. It sounds silly, but it's less than ideal to bounce your eyes back and forth trying to catch the details while also watching the video itself. Very minor but...just a thought!
Support for individuals and families struggling with substance abuse and register to win a FREE Second-Generation X-Mid 1P Tent here: charity.pledgeit.org/ExodusProject22
@@Getoverit-001 To be entered into the tent giveaway you need to register (free), hike at least 10 miles and raise a minimum of $100 during the month of May. You can, of course, solely make a donation instead of walking/hiking/running if you chose but you wouldn't be entered into the giveaway. Registration starts April 1st. 100% of the donations go to support individuals battling substance abuse and their recovery. Hopefully, this clarifies things a bit.
Interesting comparison especially the vent comments. Note that the original 2p had the vent on the long axis while all the 1p v1, the 1p v2, and the 2p Pro have the vent on the short axis. The problem with the vent on the long axis is it's harder to get to from the inside. The 1p v1 fixed that by putting the vent on the door side or short axis. Then the new 1p v2 some how got the zipper too far up as you noted diminished the vent size and function. Did you notice that the 2p Pro has the vent changed back to the 1p v1 style. It will be interesting to see how it is implemented on the 1p Pro; my guess is back to the way it was on 1p v1 style. Thanks for the comparison it was interesting, wonder if there will be a 1p v3 to return to the better vent style.
It would be nice if the 1P Pro has a vent similar to the 1P V1. We had the opportunity to test out the 2P (not Pro). While it was a bit more fiddly to set up since we were used to the 1P we can see where the 1P V2 got many of its new features from.
@@wildernessmenistry I think that there is a good chance that the vent on the 1p Pro would be similar to the 2p Pro design which as you suggested is better. By the way as you have several xmids I just saw the UA-cam called "Xmid2 - The Further Variation" (link below) which is a neat idea for xmid owners ua-cam.com/video/hbJ6dUDKqpA/v-deo.html
Thanks for this excellent review and for your work in helping people with substance abuse. I have a v1 and was thinking of getting the v2 but will keep my v1 and maybe get the v3 (when it come out!) What amazes me is how good the DD tent design is and that the Chinese haven't copied it as they (Naturehike) have with most other designs (eg Monger 2 vs BG UL2 Copperspur ).
You're welcome. It is surprising there isn't a knock-off. If course, what separates Dan's tents from others is the workmanship and choice of quality materials.
Hey no need for the hate bro be better, Chinese factories make 90% of all outdoor gear including the x-mids. I applaud all gear makers no matter what country they live in!
@@tamie341 Hi, @tamie341. No hating here. The issue is not really who makes the tent but rather theft of design. That is what Bea Diffield is referring to.
So the changes is catenary cut does not seem to give to give very noticeable differences? After using the 1P version for 10+ day hikes at wind exposed locations it felt that optimizing the catenary cut could further offload the corner stakes when it is windy. The upward force on the corner stakes, that is heavily relied on, is the weakest link for me in a still awesome tent.
This video is just an initial comparison of the two and not a complete in-depth testing of the V2 tent. We agree the catenary cuts are a useful improvement. However, from an initial pitch standpoint we didn't notice pitching any easier or tighter. From our experience with the V1, once you learn how to pitch the tent it's easy to make subtle changes to achieve a perfect pitch. In regards to high wind, we only had one stake pull out in a years time and that was on a windy, exposed mountain top in shallow soil. We found it very interesting that the tent remained standing with three out of the four stakes remaining.
@@wildernessmenistry Thanks for answering! Yes, it is also my experience that it remains standing with one stake pulled, at least if the top guy lines are used as they should be in high winds.
Yes. The second generation is a little darker. We used two different cameras to shoot the video. The exposure and white balance wasn't set correctly on one of the cameras hence the blue tint and blown out highlights in some of the shots.
Your weights don't match what I have . My v1 1p as it came new with original pegs weights 31.7 oz (about 1 oz more than advertised) and my v2 1p new with original pegs weights 30.97 oz (close enough to advertised ). Is something missing from your tents? .Did you check your scale or could it be set to troy oz weight. I used a triple beam and checked mine with a 1 kg calibration weight. Dans site claims 30.8 oz all up weight for the v2 1p.
Hi, sorry I forgot to mention we took the original stakes and guylines out since most people replace them with something better. We did this to get an apples-to-apples type of comparison. Thanks!
@@wildernessmenistry Got it , makes sense as I use different stakes on the v1 also. I'll have to weigh mine again without the hardware. Still a great tent at a great price and weight.
@@bobsmyuncle4470 The weight of the X-Mid 1 has varied over time. The original generation was spec'd at 28oz for just the fly and inner but the first batch in 2019 came out a bit heavier than spec at closer to 29oz. That's probably what you have, since that is about 31.7oz with the 8 stakes (2.3oz), stuff sacks (0.5oz) included. Since then we worked to get it down with small refinements over time, so the tent slowly dropped to about 27.0-27.5oz by 2021. The v1 shown in this video is about the lightest one I've ever seen, since it is 27.3oz in the stuff sack (0.5oz) so apparently just 26.8oz for the tent itself, which is the second lightest weight I've seen reported. The v2 we spec at 27.9oz which is accurate with the reported weights thus far. Here, we see the v2 at 28.3oz in the stuff sack (0.5oz) so presumably right on spec at 27.8oz without the stuff sack. So the v2 is spec'd at 28oz and really is 28oz, while the v1 was also spec'd at 28oz but over the years varied from 27-29oz.
@@durstongear We didn't mention that the V1 in this video has little tiny rubber grommets (from an auto parts store) that fit into the metal rings where the trekking pole tips go. We made this modification after reading early reports that trekking poles with longer carbide tips would press on the fly and possibly cause issues. In an abundance of caution (and a few extra grams) we added these tiny grommets. We were curious if the V2 metal grommets had been changed but didn't see any noticible difference in size. Again, our trekking poles never had an issue with the tips causing any issues but we felt it's better safe than sorry especially seeing how hard it is to get one of these tents!
@@wildernessmenistry Originally in 2019 the grommets didn't have any webbing on top of them. It was just the grommet and then the black fly fabric. That normally worked fine but some long styles of tips could protrude too far, so for 2020 we added webbing on top of the grommet. Your v1 looks to be a 2020-2021 model that has that webbing, so the v2 is the same as that. This webbing has almost entirely solved the problem, but we have still gotten 1 or 2 reports of pole tip damage so for our next batch in mid 2022 we are using a thick webbing here instead of lighter webbing which should solve that last 0.01% of cases. So the risk is much lower in both your tents compared to a 2019 one, but there can still be a little risk depending on what poles you have and the grommets can be a reasonable precaution.
Thanks for putting this together. I love your important work to help people with your organization.
For the v2 inner and space, I expect if you tighten the inner peak buckles more to lift the inner height at the two peaks you would find an improvement. The v2 inner is taller, so it should be adjusted closer to the fly at the two peaks to give more headroom and pull the sidewalls tighter/wider. If the inner peak heights are set similar to the v1, then yeah there the sidewalls will be looser and not pulled wider plus no gain in headroom. With the walls tight, the inner width at the height of the door toggles should be quite a bit wider (23" vs 18") even without staking out the side panel guylines.
Pulling the inner tighter at the peaks lifts the sides of the floor to make the floor narrower but more headroom. So for your preferences, pulling the inner as high as possible would give that narrower floor with taller sidewalls you prefer and should have quite a bit more headroom/shoulder room. The v1 inner is shorter so it will more naturally have a narrow floor with taller sidewalls, whereas the v2 inner is taller so it has to be adjusted tighter at the peaks to give that effect.
Dan, thanks for reply! Your dedication to your customers is just one more reason as to why your tents-in our opinion (and many others)-outshine the rest. We had both straps pulled up all the way. The V2 albiet slightly (1/2") less. In the summer we pitch the entire tent slightly higher allowing for improved ventiation and assuring headroom is never an issue. For those new to the X-mid tents: the clever design of this tent is its flexibility and the ability to make minor adjustments to the pitch depending on the enrivonment and terrian you're camping in.
@@wildernessmenistry Ahh that makes sense....commonly with the v1 people will loosen the straps all the way to get more floor width, but then the headroom suffers. Indeed if you have your v1 pulled up all the way and don't mind that narrower floor then it will have better headroom similar to the v2. The main thing with the v2 is that it is taller so you can have the headroom and the wider floor without having to pick one. But in your case you don't prefer the wider floor so yeah no real advantage there.
@@durstongear Very good explanation. Thank you!
is that where the extra weight comes in, from the bigger material panels?
@@phillvallace The weight is the same for the second gen (still 28oz). The inner is slightly heavier but we've saved a few grams elsewhere.
Owning both v1 and v2, what I love most about v2 is the dark inner tent floor. This makes it MUCH easier to figure out where the inside and outside is on the tent when you're rushing to lay it out and get it pitched before the rain falls. I used the v2 for 13 days straight last summer and was surprised at how often I appreciated this feature. I'm a v2 fan for sure.
Thanks for your helpful review. It is nice to see using the same pad that I use. I am setting my first pitch today of the x-mid 1 V2 . Haha 😄 . Also good to hear from Dan on some variations. Being a taller backpacker (6"2) 1 man tents have been to tight. I was shown some major grace from Kaviso Outdoors to even have had the opportunity to buy this tent ( I am not very tech savvy or quick on the click ) and am so thankful. Most of all showing the support to the recovery community is amazing, serving the recovery of people in my community is a passion of mine and will continue on my through hike AT.
If you chose to participate in the substance abuse fundraiser this year you would probably log the most miles in May 😁
Very useful review…thanks. My 1P is on order and I hope to get it this spring. I agree with you that the customer service from Dan Durston and his wife Tara is exceptional and one reason why I chose the 2P and now look forward to the 1P.
How have you liked the 2P?
@@wildernessmenistry I love it. Easy to set up, plenty of room for two people and gear. I used 25” pads and it was big enough for that.
An excellent review. Awaiting my version 1 X- Mid 1P I purchased second hand, can't wait to try it out in the bush.
Hi! Thank you for informative reviews for X mid 1p (V1 vs V2). I’m Japanese guy considering purchase X mid 1p (V2?) now. Although no chance to buy V1 for me, could you recommend V2? I’m 6 feet tall (183cm).
I got one when they 1st came on the market with the Drop program. Been thinking of getting the version 2 but after seeing this , I'm sticking with my version 1. If I ever decide that I need more room it will be the X-MID-2. ( 2 person )
Incredible tent, I have V2
I found a way around zipper snag is to place a ground peg loop right at the vertical corner. I got so pissed at mine i added one and it seemed to have remedied the problem. so far. Fantastic cause btw. worthy of donation without a free tent. Thanks for your service.
Thank you.
I re-treated my V1 silmylon this past summer - so three summers of trekking I think I got. I don't think I'd bother with the new one though it had crossed my mind. Your critique was pretty throrough. I can't see a compelling reason to buy new. I really like my Durston V1 one person tent. A thoughtful design and a thoughtful vid. Thanks
Thanks for the comment. It's about time we re-treat our V1 as well.
I recently had my first weekend with the version 2. I think I will like it, it's much different than my Big Agnes Copper Spur 2.
A really fabulous comparison. Thanks. I do also wish the pockets inside were larger like the V1 but if I can get my hands on a 1 or 2, I'll be trying to mod it :)
Thank you for the comment. We're hoping to get a "hacks for the V1" video out in the near future which will highlight improvements that can be made to the V1 -- taking the best of both versions-- that cost little to no money and add impressively insignificant weight (grams).
Perfect video, exactly what I needed. I have been using the V1 and thought maybe I should get the V2. You helped me to understand there is no need. Thank you!
You're welcome. Glad it was of some help.
@@wildernessmenistry One thing I heard mentioned elsewhere is that the V2 is easier to pitch tightly/correctly. Did you find much of a difference there?
@@runningoffinstinct We actually found the opposite to be true. It could have been that we were so used to the V1.
@@wildernessmenistry Thank you, much appreciated.
@@runningoffinstinct Anytime.
Good comparison. Thanks. I prefer most Tarptent Dyneema tents even over the excellent Durston tents.
Great comparison. Those are excellent tents. I see them on the trail all the time. Great video. New follower here. Crow
Thank you.
Great stuff!
Great comparison! I've got the V1 too and it's nice to get a better look at what I'm missing or in this case, not missing with the V2. Though mine was also among the first ever batch to ship which had an issue with the grommets where the trekking pole tips go being too wide for some pole tips and thus putting too much tension on the fabric on the other side and causing a small tear on the outer fabric at the peaks. Easily fixed though with a small patch and modifying the grommets with some narrower rubber grommets inserted into the original grommets.
Thanks for the comment. I appreciate that Dan and his team work toward refining the tent rather than just adding some gimmick "improvements" to sell more. I was able to use a two person X-Mid the other day and noticed it had some of the same features as the V2 1P (such as the trekking pole floor pull-out and loft storage pockets).
I want a comparison of the x-mid 2 and the new x-mid pro. Trying to decide between single and double wall . I know one is 400 grams heavier but I sleep cold. Will it make much difference on a thru hike?
Condensation will be the main difference in performance. The single wall will have more. If you aren't touching the walls it won't be a problem.
When did you receive your Xmid V2? I'm anxiously watching the mail truck for when it comes😅
About a week ago
Appreciate the honest review, BUT that's not what I wanted to hear. I have the XMID1 and ordered the new and improved Xmid1 like you. On paper all of the improvements sounded great. Did you find that the pitch was tighter for version2? They apparently changed the pattern and added a slight catenary cut to help increase the tightness of the pitch.
Hi David, there were a few other "improvements" (like the catenary cut that you mentioned) but we tried to cover the larger and most noticable changes. To answer your question, no I did not notice a significant change (if any) in pitch. However, the interior netting did seems sloppier to me if the side guy outs aren't utilized. The V2 is still a great tent! A quick summary could be, "if you have the original X-Mid and you're not a large guy there's really no "need" to upgrade to the second generation X-Mid." I don't think you'll be disappointed in either one.
Great content and comparison. I'm assuming that's a 25" wide pad you used?
One recommendation for future comparisons...I would not flip flop the measurements/data back and forth on either side of the screen. It sounds silly, but it's less than ideal to bounce your eyes back and forth trying to catch the details while also watching the video itself. Very minor but...just a thought!
Yes. 25" pad. Thank you for the suggestion!
Support for individuals and families struggling with substance abuse and register to win a FREE Second-Generation X-Mid 1P Tent here: charity.pledgeit.org/ExodusProject22
Do I donate or join- I’m confused
@@Getoverit-001 To be entered into the tent giveaway you need to register (free), hike at least 10 miles and raise a minimum of $100 during the month of May. You can, of course, solely make a donation instead of walking/hiking/running if you chose but you wouldn't be entered into the giveaway. Registration starts April 1st. 100% of the donations go to support individuals battling substance abuse and their recovery. Hopefully, this clarifies things a bit.
Keep up the good work there friend!
Thanks, Amanda!
Interesting comparison especially the vent comments. Note that the original 2p had the vent on the long axis while all the 1p v1, the 1p v2, and the 2p Pro have the vent on the short axis. The problem with the vent on the long axis is it's harder to get to from the inside. The 1p v1 fixed that by putting the vent on the door side or short axis. Then the new 1p v2 some how got the zipper too far up as you noted diminished the vent size and function. Did you notice that the 2p Pro has the vent changed back to the 1p v1 style. It will be interesting to see how it is implemented on the 1p Pro; my guess is back to the way it was on 1p v1 style. Thanks for the comparison it was interesting, wonder if there will be a 1p v3 to return to the better vent style.
It would be nice if the 1P Pro has a vent similar to the 1P V1. We had the opportunity to test out the 2P (not Pro). While it was a bit more fiddly to set up since we were used to the 1P we can see where the 1P V2 got many of its new features from.
@@wildernessmenistry I think that there is a good chance that the vent on the 1p Pro would be similar to the 2p Pro design which as you suggested is better. By the way as you have several xmids I just saw the UA-cam called "Xmid2 - The Further Variation" (link below) which is a neat idea for xmid owners
ua-cam.com/video/hbJ6dUDKqpA/v-deo.html
Thanks for this excellent review and for your work in helping people with substance abuse. I have a v1 and was thinking of getting the v2 but will keep my v1 and maybe get the v3 (when it come out!) What amazes me is how good the DD tent design is and that the Chinese haven't copied it as they (Naturehike) have with most other designs (eg Monger 2 vs BG UL2 Copperspur ).
You're welcome. It is surprising there isn't a knock-off. If course, what separates Dan's tents from others is the workmanship and choice of quality materials.
Hey no need for the hate bro be better, Chinese factories make 90% of all outdoor gear including the x-mids. I applaud all gear makers no matter what country they live in!
@@tamie341 Hi, @tamie341. No hating here. The issue is not really who makes the tent but rather theft of design. That is what Bea Diffield is referring to.
Excellent cheers mate 👍
You're welcome. Thank you for the feedback!
So the changes is catenary cut does not seem to give to give very noticeable differences? After using the 1P version for 10+ day hikes at wind exposed locations it felt that optimizing the catenary cut could further offload the corner stakes when it is windy. The upward force on the corner stakes, that is heavily relied on, is the weakest link for me in a still awesome tent.
This video is just an initial comparison of the two and not a complete in-depth testing of the V2 tent. We agree the catenary cuts are a useful improvement. However, from an initial pitch standpoint we didn't notice pitching any easier or tighter. From our experience with the V1, once you learn how to pitch the tent it's easy to make subtle changes to achieve a perfect pitch. In regards to high wind, we only had one stake pull out in a years time and that was on a windy, exposed mountain top in shallow soil. We found it very interesting that the tent remained standing with three out of the four stakes remaining.
@@wildernessmenistry Thanks for answering! Yes, it is also my experience that it remains standing with one stake pulled, at least if the top guy lines are used as they should be in high winds.
Looks the color is a bit different also, a bit darker ?
Yes. The second generation is a little darker. We used two different cameras to shoot the video. The exposure and white balance wasn't set correctly on one of the cameras hence the blue tint and blown out highlights in some of the shots.
Your weights don't match what I have . My v1 1p as it came new with original pegs weights 31.7 oz (about 1 oz more than advertised) and my v2 1p new with original pegs weights 30.97 oz (close enough to advertised ). Is something missing from your tents? .Did you check your scale or could it be set to troy oz weight. I used a triple beam and checked mine with a 1 kg calibration weight. Dans site claims 30.8 oz all up weight for the v2 1p.
Hi, sorry I forgot to mention we took the original stakes and guylines out since most people replace them with something better. We did this to get an apples-to-apples type of comparison. Thanks!
@@wildernessmenistry Got it , makes sense as I use different stakes on the v1 also. I'll have to weigh mine again without the hardware. Still a great tent at a great price and weight.
@@bobsmyuncle4470 The weight of the X-Mid 1 has varied over time. The original generation was spec'd at 28oz for just the fly and inner but the first batch in 2019 came out a bit heavier than spec at closer to 29oz. That's probably what you have, since that is about 31.7oz with the 8 stakes (2.3oz), stuff sacks (0.5oz) included.
Since then we worked to get it down with small refinements over time, so the tent slowly dropped to about 27.0-27.5oz by 2021. The v1 shown in this video is about the lightest one I've ever seen, since it is 27.3oz in the stuff sack (0.5oz) so apparently just 26.8oz for the tent itself, which is the second lightest weight I've seen reported.
The v2 we spec at 27.9oz which is accurate with the reported weights thus far. Here, we see the v2 at 28.3oz in the stuff sack (0.5oz) so presumably right on spec at 27.8oz without the stuff sack.
So the v2 is spec'd at 28oz and really is 28oz, while the v1 was also spec'd at 28oz but over the years varied from 27-29oz.
@@durstongear We didn't mention that the V1 in this video has little tiny rubber grommets (from an auto parts store) that fit into the metal rings where the trekking pole tips go. We made this modification after reading early reports that trekking poles with longer carbide tips would press on the fly and possibly cause issues. In an abundance of caution (and a few extra grams) we added these tiny grommets. We were curious if the V2 metal grommets had been changed but didn't see any noticible difference in size. Again, our trekking poles never had an issue with the tips causing any issues but we felt it's better safe than sorry especially seeing how hard it is to get one of these tents!
@@wildernessmenistry Originally in 2019 the grommets didn't have any webbing on top of them. It was just the grommet and then the black fly fabric. That normally worked fine but some long styles of tips could protrude too far, so for 2020 we added webbing on top of the grommet. Your v1 looks to be a 2020-2021 model that has that webbing, so the v2 is the same as that.
This webbing has almost entirely solved the problem, but we have still gotten 1 or 2 reports of pole tip damage so for our next batch in mid 2022 we are using a thick webbing here instead of lighter webbing which should solve that last 0.01% of cases. So the risk is much lower in both your tents compared to a 2019 one, but there can still be a little risk depending on what poles you have and the grommets can be a reasonable precaution.
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Thanks.
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