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I love this experiment, mostly because all I have are large low tech tanks. I have a container idea for you to consider! You know those large blue water jugs you flip over to put on a water dispenser in like an office or something? I would imagine that you could use one of those, and it might be a little stronger, similar to the soda bottles construction? They all have different cap types. You may be able to find one that screws on.
It was really nice try. To be on safer side, you should also consider using a non return valve. So that water from the tank does not flow into the container.
The container u were using, it's original use? Looks like containers in America that hold cooking oil for deep frying food. Like u said, they look sturdier than a 2 liter soda bottle, weird. Only trouble shooting from watching ur video is maybe have a slightly large silicone tube and defuser to accommodate the larger volume of gas. I have yet to try any CO2 in aquarium but I'm definitely gonna try this year. Thank you for ur content, entertaining and helpful
High pressure irrigation plumber here. Your issues aren't with the canister. You chose well. The issue is with the diameter of your hose and bubbler. If you have keep the depth of the bubbler that deep the pressure demand increases. I'd try raising it and also increasing diameter. Best of luck, cant wait to see new results. Thank you for sharing your experiments and results
The reason why simple 2L and 500mL bottle can hold pressure so well is because they actually designed to withstand up to 200 PSI when they are filled with soda from the factory. So they aren't exactly as flimsy as they seem lol
Making mistakes is better than faking perfections! Great video Mark! Seemed like such a sound principle but I guess the way those barrels are made with that seal line down the middle has created a weak point. I used to do a lot of home brewing and would reccomend a large plastic fermenter for v2. I have a few 25litre ones gathering dust in the shed back at my mums. 👍
you could use 6 or 8 inch diameter PVC (sewer) pipe with a glued standard end cap on one end and a screw end cap on the other with a gasket. The cool thing is you can make it as tall as you want to make the volume you need, but a 3 foot length of 6 inch would be about 4.5 gallons, a 2 foot length of 8 inch would be about 5 gallons.
Normal yeast tends to die when the alcohol reaches over 10%. Wine makers create strains that can tolerate higher but if you just add the sugar bit by bit the yeast evolves and you can make home made wine that's up to 16%.
You were very lucky in that jerrican didn't explode or open on half... that is not safe at all or made for something to hold so much pressure. In past I've used DIY CO2 systems for bigger tanks but with normal diffusers, and to achieve 2bps we just need two tea spoons of yeast, 2 tea spoons of baking soda, 2 cups of sugar and hot water. I never have used gelatin in my mixes... To make it last longer, use a plastic water container of 6L ;-)
years ago I made one with baking soda and citric acid with a DIY Chinese regulator where you can close the pressure valve to keep the pressure at night but the mixture continues producing CO2 and increasing the pressure on the soda bottle. A day later the bottle explode and destroyed the trash can next to it and made a hole in the wall. I was lucky to don't be close to the bottle, that thing can kill a person for sure. After that I start buying a professional pressurized CO2 , no more DIY. However I think M J aquascaping DIY CO2 is safer because the pressure is scaping constantly and he never try to close it at night with solenoid valve or manually.
@@ivanmoguel7548 but when I was using DIY it was 24/7, unless you use something in metal that can hold the pressure. But even on plastic bottles if the diffuser for some reason block, the bottle will explode for sure. We need to be very careful with this, if possible the better way is to use a pressurized CO2 System with a good pressure regulator (carefull with very cheap ones)
Have you considered a yeast used for brewing like a Champagne or Mead yeast? They can tolerate higher percentages of alcohol before being killed. The downside would be they may cost a bit more per packet and they may ferment more aggresively.
I've had good luck connecting 2 liter soda bottles in a series. They are built to withstand pressure, and you can change each bottle individually to keep the co2 levels more even. Using two 2L bottles was enough to make my 29 gallon tank show lime green on a drop checker. I use your sugar/gelatin recipe. I've had the best luck using wine yeast (champagne yeast has the best alcohol tolerance) and adding yeast energizer. It provides crucial nutrients to the yeast so you get a healthy fermentation. Wine and mead makers often use it. Thank you for sharing all your experiments! I learn a lot watching you.
i would think about using a weed sprayer. they're usually 2 gallons and are built to withstand pressure in the 40-60psi range before the safety valve releases . a simple hose barb going from the sprayer to your co2 line should do the trick i would think. plus a nice wide mouth for easier cleaning and loading. id really like to see you try that out
The ideal fermentation container would be a glass carboy, or a PET one like for making beer or wine. The homebrew store will have a rubber bung that you can drill out to the diameter of the air hose if they don't have one with the right size hole on the shelf. Pressure in the system will be regulated by how deep you put the diffuser into the tank since pressure increases with depth.
Definitely like soda + citric acid better as it can be shut off during the night using a cheap shut off valve because the shutting off of the system will shunt the equilibrium pendulum between the two bottles. It is however a bit more costly.
5 Gallon Glass bottle for wine making. Looks similar to a bottle for a water dispenser. They make rubber bung stoppers for them that may even be the right size for the airline tubing. I'd be interested in seeing how well it works if you decide to try it.
Co2 gas and pressure make holes cracks in cheap plastics and tubes, you need to use something which can hold a lot of Co2 gas pressure maybe a 4" PVC pipe. But it was a good try. keep experimenting. Thank you
Using a two pop bottle diy system I have seen the pressure go as high as 130 psi, I believe the pop bottle can explode around 150 psi so not surprised :) really enjoy your videos
Try using baking soda and citric acid powder. They do sell this metal tube with needle valve, pressure gauge, drop counter, solenoid valve and more in a package for you. My 200L aquarium requires a refill every 3-4 weeks. Quite economical in my opinion. And it uses 2 soda bottles. Easy to hide.
Try a brand new commercial gas can container, 5 gallons. Doing landscaping in the summer, if the can in the sun and hot, I've seen the can expand almost like a balloon, but never popped or leak. Only problem is they're usually a solid color, some have a thin clear strip to see water levels. Not sure if that affects the yeast with little light
I think those kinds of CO2 systems do not produce enough pressure to go through the diffuser (those type with micro ceramic). So the pressure built up in your canister and it might be the reason that it broke. I had the same CO2 system with the same diffuser and it never really worked, so i changed the diffuser :) Was a nice experience to watch i'll be glad to see more!
i just bought a system that uses baking soda and citric acid. it came with a solonoid valve so i can hook it up to a timer. i haven't set it up yet and it's my first attempt at co2 so i don't have high expectations. it was a cheap system ($40) so my plan is to use it as a learning experience.
Hey mj! You should totally do what too much light does to a plant. But of course it will be hard because you have to prevent algae growth. I think too much light can stunt a plant from growing. Thanks for reading.
Fun experiment MJ! Hey maybe we could try one of those pressure sprayers used in gardening (without manually pumping pressure into them of course). A high quality 10L one should cost about 30 euros, so definitely more than that canister you used. But they're made to handle the pressure. Plus they come with a hose output so no need to DIY that. And some of them have a "safety valve" to release excess pressure. I'd have to go inspect one at the supermarket to see if it would work.
@@zombi3907 One thing to keep in mind though is that these sprayers by default suck water from the bottom of the container. So we need to cut the internal straw that goes under water so that it takes the air on top instead. If we look at this one for example this should be very easy to do: ua-cam.com/video/51l_CTV86qY/v-deo.html
A tip is to shake it or make sure it's aerated as the yeast uses oxygen to work. That's pretty important when fermenting beer, which I do a lot. Also a good idea would be to search for a second hand corny keg for beer, it's tested to 5bars and made of stainless steel.
I mixed in one cola 2.5liter bottle 350grams of sugar, 250ml of water, 10grams of food gelatine(left it in 10-15min in water) and another 2.5liter bottle filled with water. And no pressure problems.
Loved the failed experiment! Thank you for sharing ALL your creative experiences. I have been using your recipe for 6 months now in various bottles, I had some distended bottles but no explosions trying various brands I have here in the USA between .35 and 2L. I stopped looking at the recipe, have always guessed on amounts and have always made multiple batches leading to too much gelatin. I just realized I’m not adding enough water to my bottles and that’s why my yeast is dying before the gelatin is gone. Thanks for explaining it again in a different way so I could figure out what I’m doing wrong!
Long time ago I've seen a DIY generator made of refitted 1 gallon size manual weed sprayer. They're made of pressure withstanding plastics. It was neat, but since I'm manual task challenged, I've always only used hp cylinders. Kudos for posting those little fails. It will save some folks the hassle you experienced. 👍
Hello Mark, to my yeast co2 bottle systems i always use just air stones, easy to adjust needs, bottles can hold up to 40 - 50 PSI or 276 -379 KPA, with diffusers attached to yeast co2 system i have difficulties to pass thru. Love your channel, keep doing what you doing :)
Friend, do the same thing (with this installation - or very similar) but use citric acid and baking soda. This is when it starts 100 times faster, the pressure is higher (even up to 10 bar), it works 3X longer. A good movie I give a thumbs up.
I think it might be the shape of the container? Like the gas in a 2 litre bottle goes to the top where the lid is, in a symmetrically, centrally located gas outflow? And maybe this helped with pushing the gas in a way that didn't warp the container. Not sure though. I'm thinking this larger project could work if a bigger bottle could be used
Soda plastic bottles support 7 times the atmosphere pressure before the cap fails (it's the week point). That is quite a lot but it involves safety when handling (or dropping ^^). Tanks for gazoline should be stronger (resist heat expention) or beer if it exists in large size...
Loved this video! It is always awesome to see your experiments. If you tried it again, I would recommend that you try using a metal beer keg, or something very strong like that. As always, we learn from our mistakes, and at least you learnt.
My co2 recipie is: 2cups sugar and 20 grams of agar powder for the base added to 500 ml of boiling water. Then left to set in the bottle. 1 cup of sugar to 1 cup of water with 1.5 TSP of yeast which is proofed ( add 1:1 sugar and yeast to 1cup warm water and wait for 10 mins or so for bubbles). Add 1 TSP of milk and 1/3 TSP of baking soda. Pour this mix onto the jello mix. It'll take 2 to 3 hrs to start , adding sugar to the yeast mix ensures that you will get a quicker reaction with the residual yeast attacking the jello. Just change the yeast water if the jello is not fully consumed when the reaction slows down. PS: it will produce a huge amount of CO2 initially so ensure that your diffuser is higher than usual so as not to drown your fish. Don't ask me how I know.
I'm using a 1.5 litre soda bottle. You can add more water at the end but ensure atleast 4 to 5 inches of clearence between the water level and the top of the bottle to prevent the mix from entering the tubing. DO NOT OPEN THE BOTTLE AT ANY POINT
Thanks for the video! I were thinking if you instead make many 1.5L bottles in series with T joints. The advantages are: The bottles is not running out of co2 at the same day. If you reload one bottle WHEN light switch off then the remaining bottles will bring up the pressure until the next day when light goes on. Even if the yeast reaction have not really started in the new reloaded bottle. In short no waiting for yeast and pressure to build up and no co2 off days for the tank (only the first initial setup after that one bottle at the time). Another benefit is you can mix bottle solution some of them low and slow and some of them as high and fast. (That way you can see on the bubble counter how many "low and slow" and "high and fast" ratio of bottles you optimal need.) The drawback is that there is more joints.
@MJAquascaping maybe a a food grade 5 gallon bucket with a lid similar to a 5 gallon paint bucket. They have no seams to burst and the come with a cap similar to the one on the bottle you used.
Love the shelf with all the small aquariums, there is just so much to explore, compared to just one big tank! When i move someday, i will definitely steal that idea. For the CO2: Maybe try to find a pressure cooker with a metal lid? Would looove to see one of these next to your tank :'D
But with one big tank you can have multiple smaller tanks underneath and the options. ;) I'm setting up 714l tank or rather I'm going to after some tweaks to the stand. You need to think about floor, flooring, stand, electricity bill, etc. with a large tank. Small tanks are versatile in this and you can fill a rack with twenty of them.
Thanks for the experiment. The principle walkthrough really help, and the fact it failed doesnt matter. Actually makes me more motivated to try myself 👍 seeing that it dont blow up or anything haha. How did u go about dismantling it? Just unscrewed the top and let the pressure out gradually?
The yeast is barely able to survive under anaerobic (no oxigen) conditions by fermentation. To reproduce and multiply it requires oxygen. You need to scale the dose of yeast with the volume of the container, because you are almost limited to the amount you dose in. Also, the flimsy bottle is manufactured in one piece, without seams. The canister is not and that's why it breaks. I think your best shot at scaling up yeast production is over of those 5L mineral water canisters with handle. Still, a big upgrade from a 1.5L. Keep it up, I want to see how this all ends. 😁
The thing is that pressure works differently based on the container. Since your container has a much bigger surface area, for the same pressure, there is a lot more force on the walls of the can than for a soda bottle. Why not just use 13 soda bottles connected together haha?
i was thinking along the same lines. 10 soda bottles all conected together with non return valves and shut off valves fitted to each. i was going to fill two with the yest mix and use the rest to store the co2 untill needed. when the yeast mix runs out there should be enough co2 pressure to keep the tanks stable untill the new mix kickes in.
I don't think the problem is with the canister. When you add so much yeast to it, it creates a huge pressure. Even if it doesn't leak, the bubble counts will be crazy. You should fine tune the yeast level by trial and error. Also, adding more water initially will also decreases the time it takes to see your first bubble. TBH, this isn't a safe experimental. If you found a tougher containers, and ramp up the yeast level even more, you really risk exploding it. I hope people can learn from it that if you really need a huge CO2 volume, is better to get a proper one. For the safety of you and your love one.
there is a right calculation between the amount of yeast and sugar and the pressure of a bottle that can hold. that's why some yeast sugar / citric acid and baking soda mixture in some tutorial specifically indicate the right amount to mix so that the bottle or container wont explode or leak. maybe if you pick the right amount of yeast and sugar, the container will be enough to hold the pressure that the mixture's producing. however, not all container or bottle is design to hold pressure. and soda bottle are design to that because of the soda itself
Love these videos! I guess the shape of the smaller bottles are designed to hold pressure better seeing as the pressure can get pretty high in them before you even open them. Thanks for sharing!
YES, SIR MJ YOUR VIDEOS ARE REASSURRING, AND PRACTICAL....BELIVE YOUR SYTEM IS LARGE AND WILL WORK, MY 2L SODA BOTTLE GAVE WAY TO PRESSURE ON MY DIY CO2 SYSTEM REPLACED OLD WITH NEW WORKS WELL NOW, EVEN MADE BUBBLE COUNTER AND CO2 CHECKER..😁
Salut mark, wahooo !!! Sacré vidéo j'ai adoré cette expérience dommage pour le bidon mais c'était sur que cela allé arrivé. Je suis boulanger et je faisait mon co2 au debut comme toi et seul les barrilles avec les clips sur le côté peuvent résister a cette pression. Et aussi faire plusieurs sortis pour alimenter d'autres bacs car le co2 a l'intérieur n'a pas assez de sorti et du coup les bidons fissures. Mais en tous cas ta vidéo était super sympa et cool. J'avais déjà fait l'expérience dans le passé mais toi en vidéo j'ai trouvé ça super rigolo. Bravo en tous cas et vivement la partie 2. Bonne soirée.
Brilliant idea, definitely need to try the gelatin mixture. Have you looked at home brew kits? They'd have a fermentation container that's designed to deal with the pressure
did you check that there was flow thru the line from the cap? it seems that the container cracked because there was too much pressure, and you never got bubbles... I think the line was too tight going thru the cap, you actually pinched the line. you should redo the system and make sure the line can flow (blow air thru the line) before starting again.
I really like my citric acid & baking soda system. If you haven't tried it, give it a shot. No cooking, waiting, or smell. I don't follow directions, and use an entire jar of citric acid. Idk how long it'll last, because I haven't had to refill it yet. It's been about a month.
Years ago I made one with baking soda and citric acid with a DIY Chinese regulator where you can close the pressure valve to keep the pressure at night but the mixture continues producing CO2 and increasing the pressure on the soda bottle. A day later the bottle explode and destroyed the trash can next to it and made a hole in the wall. I was lucky to don't be close to the bottle, that thing can kill a person for sure. After that, I start buying a professional pressurized CO2, no more DIY. However, I think M J aquascaping DIY CO2 is safer because the pressure is scaping constantly and he never try to close it at night with a solenoid valve or manually.
I think there is an issue with your diffuser, i had the same issue with smaller ones, The pressure was good but no bubbles, when i pulled out the diffuser from the tube, all the pressurized co2 came out in a second. Just make sure the diffuser is okay by giving it a blow.
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You should try this again using Champaign yeast or another high alcohol tolerant yeast instead of bread yeast. Might make the systems last even longer.
Man great idea and sucks that the container couldn’t hold! Hopefully you figure out a better container bud! Cool video! I was thinking of adding dyi co2 to my 29 gallon tank!
Hi Marc, Have you tried another diffuser? In past i also had some issues with a DIY CO2, I used an old Twinstar diffuser and could not get the system to work, when i removed the diffuser put the hose in a glass of water a lot of bubbles came out. So the next day i bought a new Dennerle diffuser did connect it and it worked. Some diffusers need more pressure then others.
I use 4 x 5L bottles which I set up 1 week apart. They all have sir line running into the same water bottle which acts as a filter where any gunk that manages to get pushed through the airlines is caught in the water bottle, and as a bubble counter where I can see how much CO2 each airline / 5L bottle is producing. From the filter / bubble counter, a 5th air line runs to the Venturi attachment of a power head on the wall inside the tank. This power head mixes tank water and CO2 as it pushes it out and down into an empty 2L Coke bottle filled with short pieces of 19mm pump line which are also cut length ways so I can fold them in on themselves and fit them through the bottle opening. These act as a baffle, further mixing the water and CO2, which exits the bottle from a hole on the side of the bottle at the bottom near the bottom through a short piece of 19mm line so I can direct the flow by twisting the bottle. By starting the cultures in the 5L bottles a week apart, the last one started is just beginning to get going, the previous one is roaring along, the one before that is ramping right up and the one before is dying off. The one that is dying is next one to be cleaned out and set up from scratch again. Easy to make it part of the weekly maintenance. At any time, the total production of CO2 remains fairly stable when averaged out across the 4 different bottles each at different stages of production. It's satisfying to watch the bottle counting bubbles and the reactor bottle in the tank. You can see the CO2 gas bubbles being forced down from the power head into the bottle and rising back towards the top to get caught amongst the baffles where it keeps being churned around until it dissolves into solution, at which point it leaves the bottom of the bottle completely dissolved in water. When you tune it right, there are no bubbles or even a fine mist entering the tank water. Be careful though... It will take a while to tune the sugar / yeast recipe and CO2 production and the power head flow. The first day I made this set up, I went to bed all smug and confident that I was a genius. I woke the next morning to find all my fish dead. The water in my 600L tank had dropped from 7.0 pH to 3.0. It took a few weeks to tune it all and it got to the stage where I was up to my armpits in the tank every day or two cutting back the faster growing plants. Also I kept the 4 x 5L bottles in a tub with water warmed to 20 degrees Celsius with a small heater. Hope this info is useful to someone.
Sure, you’ll need bottle or container like pepsi and soda bottles that can take the pressure. I tried before using normal bottles or milk plastic containers and it exploded several times until i thought of changing it to Pepsi bottles and it has been working perfect since then; anyway its a great video really and I have been thinking the same😂 like bigger container to last more time or for a big tank 😂. Keep it up bro, best of luck 🤞❤️
How did it build up so I much pressure in the bottle? Was the defuser clogged up possibly? I run my diy C02 connected to my pump air intake so it never builds pressure inside the bottle. To stop it at night I just loosen to cap on the second bubble counter bottle and allow air to get pulled through to the pump. A shame the jug popped a leak. Hope you try this experiment again soon! I think we all really want to see just how much and how long this can last! Cheers!
I don't think the diffuser was clogged, but they do require quite a bit of pressure to work. With the soda bottle that has never been an issue, but I should have know better and first experimented with something that requires less pressure.
Had been watching ur vedios for a long time.. Can i have a suggestion..container couldnt handle the pressure required to push co2 through the diffuser i guess.. Either change the diffuser in to something simple.. Or need to use more pressure withstanding container.😊
how much pressure do you need for the defuser? ... it looks almost as if there was far too much pressure (the plastic on those containers is a different type of plastic), gas should have been coming out of the hose surely... you could always go super extreme as well with that container and go 15l of sugar water and gelatin mix and using a 1.5l bottle as a wash bottle you'd probably need a lot of yeast... look forward to the next instalment of this experiment as I'm having to look at co2 for my planted tank to get it lusher
I was actually cringing!🤣 I remember some neighbour tried to make nettle beer in some glass bottles and got the mixture a bit wrong, they were exploding and going off like cannons. Great experiment but I would definitely suggest whatever vessel you use it must be able to pressurise. I wonder how much CO2 you could generate in say a 3 litre Cola bottle. I loved the video, thanks for sharing.
This is a great experiment! Perhaps plastic is not the best material🤔 If you can get a used beer keg for cheap and modify it to fit a regulator, perhaps that might work?
PET bottles work fine, but the biggest I have seen are about 2.25 l. If you can somehow fill the beer keg and connect it to hoses, that would be cool. I moved away from CO_2 except one tank, which uses pre-configured set with a metal bottle used for welding or extinguishers with other components used for welding. It costs some money for the initial setup, but then it's mostly about refilling the bottle in a local extinguisher shop and replacing some part once in a while. Some use Sodastream bottles, which can be refilled in some supermarkets.
@@PaulZyCZ yeah, I use the Sodastream bottles for mine and refill them with a larger co2 tank. I wouldn't recommend this system because I have the newer bottle which prevents me from refilling all the way as I have tried many times. My bottle only lasts 2 weeks🥲
@@xXIronSwanXx That's similar to yeasts+sugar method (which lasts up to 3 weeks). I was considering buying second pressured bottle (2.1 l of pure CO_2), just to switch them once the other is empty, but I usually go to the shop right in the morning to return with a refilled bottle. Then it's good for another 3 - 4 months. Maybe I will switch to Blackwater in that tank, but I'll see.
Bad luck on getting a leaky container! Small holes can be repaired by melting the sides together using a soldering iron. Would like to see you try again, thanks for posting this video. Tot siens!
It might be a little more expensive, but I bet there’s a fermentation carboy for home brewing that holds pressure better. You might even find one with a lid with an airline connection or valve.
@@RobertEEfford I’m not a home brewer, but isn’t that exactly what he wants? Create CO2 and vent when pressure is sufficient? I’m sure it wouldn’t be more than a few PSI, but, admittedly I haven’t done the research. 😅
@@Dylan-ok6ft Agreed, but my point is that those containers are not designed for a lot of pressure. I do not know how many psi is needed to push the Co2 through a diffuser
Nice to see the experiment. Can you also try agar agar instead of gelatin it would be fun to know the difference between this two mediums. The rate of CO2 produced and for how long it is produced
Used diy CO2 for a year or so when I was getting into fw planted tanks. Works great if you get the mix right, and now I see there are fittings available to make a Coke Bottle reactor even more efficient. But, at the end of the day, the fluctuating output levels, the hassle of mixing up a new batch every week or two, the mess...it's just so much easier and rewarding to invest in a co2 bottle and proper regulator, with a solenoid and ceramic diffuser.
You know those cans who are used on beer dispensers the can It is made of thick aluminum And I'm talkin about The ones with beer in them And for the same reason they should be able to hold pressure and not explode
I use your DIY CO2 recipe with a 6l water bottle I use a tap to reduce the flow of CO2 (been using it with no issues for 6 months now, 4 batches at this point), the aquarium is a 145l. :)
Maybe this is something you might want to try... Use 4 soda bottles connected in parallel through a 5-way pneumatic quick insert connector, with each having its own pneumatic ball valve so you can fill one bottle with a new batch of yeast and sugar mixture without losing pressure on the other bottles.
Ive been watching your channel off and on for over a year. I was wondering something why does everyone use sugar and yeast. Wouldnt it be easier to get water kefir that way you dont have to actually keep buying yeast?
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Soda bottles are made to withstand outstanding pressure during the fill up of soda in the factory thts why they are ideal.
I love this experiment, mostly because all I have are large low tech tanks. I have a container idea for you to consider!
You know those large blue water jugs you flip over to put on a water dispenser in like an office or something? I would imagine that you could use one of those, and it might be a little stronger, similar to the soda bottles construction? They all have different cap types. You may be able to find one that screws on.
Using blue chemical grade 40liter can..!
It was really nice try. To be on safer side, you should also consider using a non return valve. So that water from the tank does not flow into the container.
The container u were using, it's original use? Looks like containers in America that hold cooking oil for deep frying food. Like u said, they look sturdier than a 2 liter soda bottle, weird. Only trouble shooting from watching ur video is maybe have a slightly large silicone tube and defuser to accommodate the larger volume of gas. I have yet to try any CO2 in aquarium but I'm definitely gonna try this year. Thank you for ur content, entertaining and helpful
High pressure irrigation plumber here. Your issues aren't with the canister. You chose well. The issue is with the diameter of your hose and bubbler. If you have keep the depth of the bubbler that deep the pressure demand increases. I'd try raising it and also increasing diameter. Best of luck, cant wait to see new results. Thank you for sharing your experiments and results
The reason why simple 2L and 500mL bottle can hold pressure so well is because they actually designed to withstand up to 200 PSI when they are filled with soda from the factory. So they aren't exactly as flimsy as they seem lol
Making mistakes is better than faking perfections! Great video Mark! Seemed like such a sound principle but I guess the way those barrels are made with that seal line down the middle has created a weak point. I used to do a lot of home brewing and would reccomend a large plastic fermenter for v2. I have a few 25litre ones gathering dust in the shed back at my mums. 👍
An option would be to use an empty beer keg, it is made to withstand great pressure. I have one at home maybe I'll try one day
Shhh! Seriously... until after I try it. Haha. Tomorrow. It will be known. I will report back.
Good idea!
@@dipndaVic good, then tell me if it worked! you can use the same fitting as the barrel and cover the co2 inlet with a metal plug
@@dipndaVic and?
You can buy brewery plastic tanks that are pretty strong
you could use 6 or 8 inch diameter PVC (sewer) pipe with a glued standard end cap on one end and a screw end cap on the other with a gasket. The cool thing is you can make it as tall as you want to make the volume you need, but a 3 foot length of 6 inch would be about 4.5 gallons, a 2 foot length of 8 inch would be about 5 gallons.
Normal yeast tends to die when the alcohol reaches over 10%.
Wine makers create strains that can tolerate higher but if you just add the sugar bit by bit the yeast evolves and you can make home made wine that's up to 16%.
I already have a CO2 system I'm happy with but your voice and presence is just so soothing I watched anyway lol
Thank you for including failed experiments too and not giving up. Can’t wait to see how you handle things next.
You were very lucky in that jerrican didn't explode or open on half... that is not safe at all or made for something to hold so much pressure.
In past I've used DIY CO2 systems for bigger tanks but with normal diffusers, and to achieve 2bps we just need two tea spoons of yeast, 2 tea spoons of baking soda, 2 cups of sugar and hot water. I never have used gelatin in my mixes...
To make it last longer, use a plastic water container of 6L ;-)
years ago I made one with baking soda and citric acid with a DIY Chinese regulator where you can close the pressure valve to keep the pressure at night but the mixture continues producing CO2 and increasing the pressure on the soda bottle. A day later the bottle explode and destroyed the trash can next to it and made a hole in the wall. I was lucky to don't be close to the bottle, that thing can kill a person for sure. After that I start buying a professional pressurized CO2 , no more DIY. However I think M J aquascaping DIY CO2 is safer because the pressure is scaping constantly and he never try to close it at night with solenoid valve or manually.
@@ivanmoguel7548 but when I was using DIY it was 24/7, unless you use something in metal that can hold the pressure. But even on plastic bottles if the diffuser for some reason block, the bottle will explode for sure.
We need to be very careful with this, if possible the better way is to use a pressurized CO2 System with a good pressure regulator (carefull with very cheap ones)
Have you considered a yeast used for brewing like a Champagne or Mead yeast? They can tolerate higher percentages of alcohol before being killed. The downside would be they may cost a bit more per packet and they may ferment more aggresively.
I've had good luck connecting 2 liter soda bottles in a series. They are built to withstand pressure, and you can change each bottle individually to keep the co2 levels more even.
Using two 2L bottles was enough to make my 29 gallon tank show lime green on a drop checker.
I use your sugar/gelatin recipe. I've had the best luck using wine yeast (champagne yeast has the best alcohol tolerance) and adding yeast energizer. It provides crucial nutrients to the yeast so you get a healthy fermentation. Wine and mead makers often use it.
Thank you for sharing all your experiments! I learn a lot watching you.
i would think about using a weed sprayer. they're usually 2 gallons and are built to withstand pressure in the 40-60psi range before the safety valve releases . a simple hose barb going from the sprayer to your co2 line should do the trick i would think. plus a nice wide mouth for easier cleaning and loading. id really like to see you try that out
The ideal fermentation container would be a glass carboy, or a PET one like for making beer or wine. The homebrew store will have a rubber bung that you can drill out to the diameter of the air hose if they don't have one with the right size hole on the shelf. Pressure in the system will be regulated by how deep you put the diffuser into the tank since pressure increases with depth.
Definitely like soda + citric acid better as it can be shut off during the night using a cheap shut off valve because the shutting off of the system will shunt the equilibrium pendulum between the two bottles.
It is however a bit more costly.
5 Gallon Glass bottle for wine making. Looks similar to a bottle for a water dispenser.
They make rubber bung stoppers for them that may even be the right size for the airline tubing.
I'd be interested in seeing how well it works if you decide to try it.
Co2 gas and pressure make holes cracks in cheap plastics and tubes, you need to use something which can hold a lot of Co2 gas pressure maybe a 4" PVC pipe. But it was a good try. keep experimenting. Thank you
Using a two pop bottle diy system I have seen the pressure go as high as 130 psi, I believe the pop bottle can explode around 150 psi so not surprised :) really enjoy your videos
175 psi ( 12 bar ) is the european standard for PET bottles.
@@kaizy760 I have a safety valve on it set to 50 psi so I can sleep at night;)
Try using baking soda and citric acid powder. They do sell this metal tube with needle valve, pressure gauge, drop counter, solenoid valve and more in a package for you. My 200L aquarium requires a refill every 3-4 weeks. Quite economical in my opinion. And it uses 2 soda bottles. Easy to hide.
Try a brand new commercial gas can container, 5 gallons. Doing landscaping in the summer, if the can in the sun and hot, I've seen the can expand almost like a balloon, but never popped or leak. Only problem is they're usually a solid color, some have a thin clear strip to see water levels. Not sure if that affects the yeast with little light
Thanks for showing the failure, which everyone don't show. I had the same doubt of the containers flexibility.
I think those kinds of CO2 systems do not produce enough pressure to go through the diffuser (those type with micro ceramic). So the pressure built up in your canister and it might be the reason that it broke. I had the same CO2 system with the same diffuser and it never really worked, so i changed the diffuser :) Was a nice experience to watch i'll be glad to see more!
Yeah normally these work well for me, but I guess for this one I should have gone with something that requires less pressure...
i just bought a system that uses baking soda and citric acid. it came with a solonoid valve so i can hook it up to a timer. i haven't set it up yet and it's my first attempt at co2 so i don't have high expectations. it was a cheap system ($40) so my plan is to use it as a learning experience.
Hey mj! You should totally do what too much light does to a plant. But of course it will be hard because you have to prevent algae growth. I think too much light can stunt a plant from growing. Thanks for reading.
Fun experiment MJ! Hey maybe we could try one of those pressure sprayers used in gardening (without manually pumping pressure into them of course). A high quality 10L one should cost about 30 euros, so definitely more than that canister you used. But they're made to handle the pressure. Plus they come with a hose output so no need to DIY that. And some of them have a "safety valve" to release excess pressure. I'd have to go inspect one at the supermarket to see if it would work.
I like this suggestion. I was trying to think of container choices that were bottle shaped that had the lid at the top as well.
@@zombi3907 One thing to keep in mind though is that these sprayers by default suck water from the bottom of the container. So we need to cut the internal straw that goes under water so that it takes the air on top instead. If we look at this one for example this should be very easy to do: ua-cam.com/video/51l_CTV86qY/v-deo.html
Great idea!
Thank you for trying sir, really appreciate your work.!👏👏
Thanks for the courage to experiment and share the results. Guess the plastic selection needs higher flexibility.
A tip is to shake it or make sure it's aerated as the yeast uses oxygen to work. That's pretty important when fermenting beer, which I do a lot.
Also a good idea would be to search for a second hand corny keg for beer, it's tested to 5bars and made of stainless steel.
I mixed in one cola 2.5liter bottle 350grams of sugar, 250ml of water, 10grams of food gelatine(left it in 10-15min in water) and another 2.5liter bottle filled with water.
And no pressure problems.
Loved the failed experiment! Thank you for sharing ALL your creative experiences. I have been using your recipe for 6 months now in various bottles, I had some distended bottles but no explosions trying various brands I have here in the USA between .35 and 2L. I stopped looking at the recipe, have always guessed on amounts and have always made multiple batches leading to too much gelatin. I just realized I’m not adding enough water to my bottles and that’s why my yeast is dying before the gelatin is gone. Thanks for explaining it again in a different way so I could figure out what I’m doing wrong!
Long time ago I've seen a DIY generator made of refitted 1 gallon size manual weed sprayer. They're made of pressure withstanding plastics. It was neat, but since I'm manual task challenged, I've always only used hp cylinders. Kudos for posting those little fails. It will save some folks the hassle you experienced. 👍
Hello Mark, to my yeast co2 bottle systems i always use just air stones, easy to adjust needs, bottles can hold up to 40 - 50 PSI or 276 -379 KPA, with diffusers attached to yeast co2 system i have difficulties to pass thru. Love your channel, keep doing what you doing :)
I do it also with a 5 l canister... works like a charm
Friend, do the same thing (with this installation - or very similar) but use citric acid and baking soda. This is when it starts 100 times faster, the pressure is higher (even up to 10 bar), it works 3X longer.
A good movie I give a thumbs up.
I think it might be the shape of the container? Like the gas in a 2 litre bottle goes to the top where the lid is, in a symmetrically, centrally located gas outflow? And maybe this helped with pushing the gas in a way that didn't warp the container.
Not sure though. I'm thinking this larger project could work if a bigger bottle could be used
I'm glad it didn't blast these water container aren't build to tolerate pressure best is to use soda bottle they can take up to 150 psi
Soda plastic bottles support 7 times the atmosphere pressure before the cap fails (it's the week point). That is quite a lot but it involves safety when handling (or dropping ^^). Tanks for gazoline should be stronger (resist heat expention) or beer if it exists in large size...
Loved this video! It is always awesome to see your experiments. If you tried it again, I would recommend that you try using a metal beer keg, or something very strong like that. As always, we learn from our mistakes, and at least you learnt.
Try searching for a pressure barrel for making beer at home
They should work and not be expensive
This should work!
Also try using champagne yeast like Lalvin EC1118. It will ferment to a higher alcohol content and possibly give you up to 30% more time.
My co2 recipie is:
2cups sugar and 20 grams of agar powder for the base added to 500 ml of boiling water. Then left to set in the bottle.
1 cup of sugar to 1 cup of water with 1.5 TSP of yeast which is proofed ( add 1:1 sugar and yeast to 1cup warm water and wait for 10 mins or so for bubbles). Add 1 TSP of milk and 1/3 TSP of baking soda. Pour this mix onto the jello mix.
It'll take 2 to 3 hrs to start , adding sugar to the yeast mix ensures that you will get a quicker reaction with the residual yeast attacking the jello. Just change the yeast water if the jello is not fully consumed when the reaction slows down.
PS: it will produce a huge amount of CO2 initially so ensure that your diffuser is higher than usual so as not to drown your fish. Don't ask me how I know.
I'm using a 1.5 litre soda bottle. You can add more water at the end but ensure atleast 4 to 5 inches of clearence between the water level and the top of the bottle to prevent the mix from entering the tubing.
DO NOT OPEN THE BOTTLE AT ANY POINT
some soda sells 3ltr bottles here in the states. Could try finding those. Or a 5 gal bucket with lid from hardware store.
Go for round containers. They are way stronger than square shaped ones
You could use a chemical grade plastic barrel which will be stronger which could withstand the pressure..!!
Thanks for the video!
I were thinking if you instead make many 1.5L bottles in series with T joints. The advantages are:
The bottles is not running out of co2 at the same day. If you reload one bottle WHEN light switch off then the remaining bottles will bring up the pressure until the next day when light goes on. Even if the yeast reaction have not really started in the new reloaded bottle.
In short no waiting for yeast and pressure to build up and no co2 off days for the tank (only the first initial setup after that one bottle at the time).
Another benefit is you can mix bottle solution some of them low and slow and some of them as high and fast.
(That way you can see on the bubble counter how many "low and slow" and "high and fast" ratio of bottles you optimal need.)
The drawback is that there is more joints.
@MJAquascaping maybe a a food grade 5 gallon bucket with a lid similar to a 5 gallon paint bucket. They have no seams to burst and the come with a cap similar to the one on the bottle you used.
Love the shelf with all the small aquariums, there is just so much to explore, compared to just one big tank! When i move someday, i will definitely steal that idea. For the CO2: Maybe try to find a pressure cooker
with a metal lid? Would looove to see one of these next to your tank :'D
But with one big tank you can have multiple smaller tanks underneath and the options. ;) I'm setting up 714l tank or rather I'm going to after some tweaks to the stand. You need to think about floor, flooring, stand, electricity bill, etc. with a large tank. Small tanks are versatile in this and you can fill a rack with twenty of them.
Thanks for the experiment. The principle walkthrough really help, and the fact it failed doesnt matter. Actually makes me more motivated to try myself 👍 seeing that it dont blow up or anything haha.
How did u go about dismantling it? Just unscrewed the top and let the pressure out gradually?
The yeast is barely able to survive under anaerobic (no oxigen) conditions by fermentation. To reproduce and multiply it requires oxygen. You need to scale the dose of yeast with the volume of the container, because you are almost limited to the amount you dose in.
Also, the flimsy bottle is manufactured in one piece, without seams. The canister is not and that's why it breaks. I think your best shot at scaling up yeast production is over of those 5L mineral water canisters with handle. Still, a big upgrade from a 1.5L.
Keep it up, I want to see how this all ends. 😁
The thing is that pressure works differently based on the container. Since your container has a much bigger surface area, for the same pressure, there is a lot more force on the walls of the can than for a soda bottle. Why not just use 13 soda bottles connected together haha?
i was thinking along the same lines. 10 soda bottles all conected together with non return valves and shut off valves fitted to each. i was going to fill two with the yest mix and use the rest to store the co2 untill needed. when the yeast mix runs out there should be enough co2 pressure to keep the tanks stable untill the new mix kickes in.
try a "waterkluis" or "voerton" they come in relatively good sizes and can handle a bit more pressure.
I don't think the problem is with the canister. When you add so much yeast to it, it creates a huge pressure. Even if it doesn't leak, the bubble counts will be crazy. You should fine tune the yeast level by trial and error. Also, adding more water initially will also decreases the time it takes to see your first bubble.
TBH, this isn't a safe experimental. If you found a tougher containers, and ramp up the yeast level even more, you really risk exploding it.
I hope people can learn from it that if you really need a huge CO2 volume, is better to get a proper one. For the safety of you and your love one.
Soda bottles are designed to hold pressure. Maybe try a couple 3 liter bottles.
there is a right calculation between the amount of yeast and sugar and the pressure of a bottle that can hold. that's why some yeast sugar / citric acid and baking soda mixture in some tutorial specifically indicate the right amount to mix so that the bottle or container wont explode or leak.
maybe if you pick the right amount of yeast and sugar, the container will be enough to hold the pressure that the mixture's producing. however, not all container or bottle is design to hold pressure. and soda bottle are design to that because of the soda itself
the way of mix it kick start it after is what works best for me
Love these videos! I guess the shape of the smaller bottles are designed to hold pressure better seeing as the pressure can get pretty high in them before you even open them.
Thanks for sharing!
YES, SIR MJ YOUR VIDEOS ARE REASSURRING, AND PRACTICAL....BELIVE YOUR SYTEM IS LARGE AND WILL WORK, MY 2L SODA BOTTLE GAVE WAY TO PRESSURE ON MY DIY CO2 SYSTEM REPLACED OLD WITH NEW WORKS WELL NOW, EVEN MADE BUBBLE COUNTER AND CO2 CHECKER..😁
Salut mark, wahooo !!! Sacré vidéo j'ai adoré cette expérience dommage pour le bidon mais c'était sur que cela allé arrivé. Je suis boulanger et je faisait mon co2 au debut comme toi et seul les barrilles avec les clips sur le côté peuvent résister a cette pression. Et aussi faire plusieurs sortis pour alimenter d'autres bacs car le co2 a l'intérieur n'a pas assez de sorti et du coup les bidons fissures. Mais en tous cas ta vidéo était super sympa et cool. J'avais déjà fait l'expérience dans le passé mais toi en vidéo j'ai trouvé ça super rigolo. Bravo en tous cas et vivement la partie 2. Bonne soirée.
Brilliant idea, definitely need to try the gelatin mixture. Have you looked at home brew kits? They'd have a fermentation container that's designed to deal with the pressure
Loved this video! Try this...Halfords 20L Jerry can with screw cap for fuel. 😜
Use large containers that allow pressurized content. Like for gasoline and other stuff..
did you check that there was flow thru the line from the cap? it seems that the container cracked because there was too much pressure, and you never got bubbles... I think the line was too tight going thru the cap, you actually pinched the line. you should redo the system and make sure the line can flow (blow air thru the line) before starting again.
A brewer's demijohn could possibly work.. love to see you try that out.
Try using 3-5 gallon clear water bottles. Those bottles are made with same material as soda bottles.
Could work! But they usually don't have a proper lid right?
@@MJAquascaping I have seen 3 gallons with a lid same as the soda bottles in my grocery store. But it'll be hard to find one.
I really like my citric acid & baking soda system. If you haven't tried it, give it a shot. No cooking, waiting, or smell. I don't follow directions, and use an entire jar of citric acid. Idk how long it'll last, because I haven't had to refill it yet. It's been about a month.
Years ago I made one with baking soda and citric acid with a DIY Chinese regulator where you can close the pressure valve to keep the pressure at night but the mixture continues producing CO2 and increasing the pressure on the soda bottle. A day later the bottle explode and destroyed the trash can next to it and made a hole in the wall. I was lucky to don't be close to the bottle, that thing can kill a person for sure. After that, I start buying a professional pressurized CO2, no more DIY. However, I think M J aquascaping DIY CO2 is safer because the pressure is scaping constantly and he never try to close it at night with a solenoid valve or manually.
I think there is an issue with your diffuser, i had the same issue with smaller ones, The pressure was good but no bubbles, when i pulled out the diffuser from the tube, all the pressurized co2 came out in a second. Just make sure the diffuser is okay by giving it a blow.
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Use a 5 gallon food grade bucket and lid. The same as you would to make homemade alcohol. Cheap and easy.
You should try this again using Champaign yeast or another high alcohol tolerant yeast instead of bread yeast. Might make the systems last even longer.
Man great idea and sucks that the container couldn’t hold! Hopefully you figure out a better container bud! Cool video! I was thinking of adding dyi co2 to my 29 gallon tank!
Hi Marc, Have you tried another diffuser?
In past i also had some issues with a DIY CO2, I used an old Twinstar diffuser and could not get the system to work, when i removed the diffuser put the hose in a glass of water a lot of bubbles came out. So the next day i bought a new Dennerle diffuser did connect it and it worked. Some diffusers need more pressure then others.
Yeah maybe the diffuser was faulty, too late to try now. I wanted to pick up the barrel and the whole thing just broke 😂
I'm using a 15gal demijean fermentation vessel to fill a 10gal passive co² system for a 200gal aquaponics system
Have you ever done the yeast sugar method in the steel co 2 reactor
canister?
You still receive a big like. Keep going, very informative video and lot of study material.
I use 4 x 5L bottles which I set up 1 week apart. They all have sir line running into the same water bottle which acts as a filter where any gunk that manages to get pushed through the airlines is caught in the water bottle, and as a bubble counter where I can see how much CO2 each airline / 5L bottle is producing.
From the filter / bubble counter, a 5th air line runs to the Venturi attachment of a power head on the wall inside the tank.
This power head mixes tank water and CO2 as it pushes it out and down into an empty 2L Coke bottle filled with short pieces of 19mm pump line which are also cut length ways so I can fold them in on themselves and fit them through the bottle opening. These act as a baffle, further mixing the water and CO2, which exits the bottle from a hole on the side of the bottle at the bottom near the bottom through a short piece of 19mm line so I can direct the flow by twisting the bottle.
By starting the cultures in the 5L bottles a week apart, the last one started is just beginning to get going, the previous one is roaring along, the one before that is ramping right up and the one before is dying off. The one that is dying is next one to be cleaned out and set up from scratch again. Easy to make it part of the weekly maintenance.
At any time, the total production of CO2 remains fairly stable when averaged out across the 4 different bottles each at different stages of production.
It's satisfying to watch the bottle counting bubbles and the reactor bottle in the tank. You can see the CO2 gas bubbles being forced down from the power head into the bottle and rising back towards the top to get caught amongst the baffles where it keeps being churned around until it dissolves into solution, at which point it leaves the bottom of the bottle completely dissolved in water.
When you tune it right, there are no bubbles or even a fine mist entering the tank water.
Be careful though... It will take a while to tune the sugar / yeast recipe and CO2 production and the power head flow.
The first day I made this set up, I went to bed all smug and confident that I was a genius. I woke the next morning to find all my fish dead. The water in my 600L tank had dropped from 7.0 pH to 3.0.
It took a few weeks to tune it all and it got to the stage where I was up to my armpits in the tank every day or two cutting back the faster growing plants.
Also I kept the 4 x 5L bottles in a tub with water warmed to 20 degrees Celsius with a small heater.
Hope this info is useful to someone.
Sure, you’ll need bottle or container like pepsi and soda bottles that can take the pressure. I tried before using normal bottles or milk plastic containers and it exploded several times until i thought of changing it to Pepsi bottles and it has been working perfect since then; anyway its a great video really and I have been thinking the same😂 like bigger container to last more time or for a big tank 😂. Keep it up bro, best of luck 🤞❤️
How did it build up so I much pressure in the bottle? Was the defuser clogged up possibly? I run my diy C02 connected to my pump air intake so it never builds pressure inside the bottle. To stop it at night I just loosen to cap on the second bubble counter bottle and allow air to get pulled through to the pump.
A shame the jug popped a leak. Hope you try this experiment again soon! I think we all really want to see just how much and how long this can last! Cheers!
I don't think the diffuser was clogged, but they do require quite a bit of pressure to work. With the soda bottle that has never been an issue, but I should have know better and first experimented with something that requires less pressure.
Had been watching ur vedios for a long time..
Can i have a suggestion..container couldnt handle the pressure required to push co2 through the diffuser i guess.. Either change the diffuser in to something simple.. Or need to use more pressure withstanding container.😊
May be connect the tubing to filter powerhead.. Will get diffused and easy.😬
how much pressure do you need for the defuser? ... it looks almost as if there was far too much pressure (the plastic on those containers is a different type of plastic), gas should have been coming out of the hose surely... you could always go super extreme as well with that container and go 15l of sugar water and gelatin mix and using a 1.5l bottle as a wash bottle you'd probably need a lot of yeast...
look forward to the next instalment of this experiment as I'm having to look at co2 for my planted tank to get it lusher
I was actually cringing!🤣 I remember some neighbour tried to make nettle beer in some glass bottles and got the mixture a bit wrong, they were exploding and going off like cannons. Great experiment but I would definitely suggest whatever vessel you use it must be able to pressurise. I wonder how much CO2 you could generate in say a 3 litre Cola bottle. I loved the video, thanks for sharing.
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This is a great experiment! Perhaps plastic is not the best material🤔 If you can get a used beer keg for cheap and modify it to fit a regulator, perhaps that might work?
PET bottles work fine, but the biggest I have seen are about 2.25 l. If you can somehow fill the beer keg and connect it to hoses, that would be cool.
I moved away from CO_2 except one tank, which uses pre-configured set with a metal bottle used for welding or extinguishers with other components used for welding. It costs some money for the initial setup, but then it's mostly about refilling the bottle in a local extinguisher shop and replacing some part once in a while. Some use Sodastream bottles, which can be refilled in some supermarkets.
@@PaulZyCZ yeah, I use the Sodastream bottles for mine and refill them with a larger co2 tank. I wouldn't recommend this system because I have the newer bottle which prevents me from refilling all the way as I have tried many times. My bottle only lasts 2 weeks🥲
@@xXIronSwanXx That's similar to yeasts+sugar method (which lasts up to 3 weeks).
I was considering buying second pressured bottle (2.1 l of pure CO_2), just to switch them once the other is empty, but I usually go to the shop right in the morning to return with a refilled bottle. Then it's good for another 3 - 4 months. Maybe I will switch to Blackwater in that tank, but I'll see.
I do 3D printing and the bottles are made of PET vs polyurethane on the larger container. It's why it feels different and didn't work.
TRY USING AN OLD EMPTY CO2 FIRE EXTINGUISHER BOTTLE
Bad luck on getting a leaky container! Small holes can be repaired by melting the sides together using a soldering iron. Would like to see you try again, thanks for posting this video. Tot siens!
It might be a little more expensive, but I bet there’s a fermentation carboy for home brewing that holds pressure better. You might even find one with a lid with an airline connection or valve.
A carboy for beer brewing would probably not work because they are not designed to have pressure. When the beer is fermenting, the Co2 is vented.
@@RobertEEfford I’m not a home brewer, but isn’t that exactly what he wants? Create CO2 and vent when pressure is sufficient? I’m sure it wouldn’t be more than a few PSI, but, admittedly I haven’t done the research. 😅
@@Dylan-ok6ft Agreed, but my point is that those containers are not designed for a lot of pressure. I do not know how many psi is needed to push the Co2 through a diffuser
Nice to see the experiment. Can you also try agar agar instead of gelatin it would be fun to know the difference between this two mediums. The rate of CO2 produced and for how long it is produced
One question?
Can I use a period time CO2 and then just when my plants are ok and well I just take it out.?
What's are props and cons
Those 20lit water bottles (blue ones usually) for water dispensers?
Used diy CO2 for a year or so when I was getting into fw planted tanks. Works great if you get the mix right, and now I see there are fittings available to make a Coke Bottle reactor even more efficient.
But, at the end of the day, the fluctuating output levels, the hassle of mixing up a new batch every week or two, the mess...it's just so much easier and rewarding to invest in a co2 bottle and proper regulator, with a solenoid and ceramic diffuser.
U can try big bottle of water 5L, it's not 20L but it's strong bottle.
You know those cans who are used on beer dispensers the can It is made of thick aluminum And I'm talkin about The ones with beer in them And for the same reason they should be able to hold pressure and not explode
I use your DIY CO2 recipe with a 6l water bottle I use a tap to reduce the flow of CO2 (been using it with no issues for 6 months now, 4 batches at this point), the aquarium is a 145l. :)
What is your mixture level please as I’m currently setting up a 5L version :)
@@apaquatics6172 1 kg sugar
+ 1,2 l water + 18 g gelatine
+ final step after gelatine is set (11g yeast
+ 3 l tepid water
+ 4 table spoons of sugar)
Can you make a "prepare your tanks for vacation" video? I will be gone for 2 week in late May and would like some advice on this.
Just started using ur DIY co2 system with sugar and yeast
Only been two days but am hoping for results
Awesome! Good luck!
Jerrycans voor benzine zijn drukbestendig. Als je een andere diffusor had gebruikt was het wel goed gegaan denk ik. Deze gaf teveel weerstand?
Ja ik had beter een diffusor kunnen gebruiken die minder druk nodig heeft... foutje...
I like your honesty ❤
Maybe this is something you might want to try... Use 4 soda bottles connected in parallel through a 5-way pneumatic quick insert connector, with each having its own pneumatic ball valve so you can fill one bottle with a new batch of yeast and sugar mixture without losing pressure on the other bottles.
I was going to suggest just using more bottles as well.
Oh that's a great idea!
You can try a beer pressure vessel from the home brewing shop - its designed for exactly this.
Could you try adding some salt to diy co2? In bakery salt limit the active of yeast, so may it possible reduce co2 outcome?
Ive been watching your channel off and on for over a year. I was wondering something why does everyone use sugar and yeast. Wouldnt it be easier to get water kefir that way you dont have to actually keep buying yeast?