How Every Great Fighter Could Have Become The Undeniable GOAT

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  • No matter who you think the greatest fighter is in UFC history, there isn't a definite goat. That's usually because people base the greatest based off of different accomplishments, so i went through all the greatest fighters and stated what exactly they needed to do to become the greatest of all time.
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  • @arnavn2008
    @arnavn2008 2 місяці тому +185

    If Dc beat Jones the first time

    • @nkemprince311
      @nkemprince311 2 місяці тому

      cap

    • @yehiak8711
      @yehiak8711 2 місяці тому +9

      @jellypunk1495 and that man was roiding too, imo dc is easily top 5, he's the only real double champion alongside henry cejudo in the modern era

    • @argc
      @argc Місяць тому

      ​@jellypunk1495 bruh that man was gouging stipe eyes like crazy stipe got his eyes destroyed

    • @argc
      @argc Місяць тому

      ​@@yehiak8711bruh that man was gouging stipe eyes like crazy stipe got his eyes destroyed

    • @KaKa-ij9zz
      @KaKa-ij9zz Місяць тому

      ​@@yehiak8711the fight in which he was rpiding was a no result, so get your facts straight

  • @amphibianenthusiast1887
    @amphibianenthusiast1887 2 місяці тому +128

    DJ can't do anything to be the goat because he already is. 11 defenses, then gets traded after an EXTREMELY close decision loss to Henry Cejudo, goes to ONE FC which has the 2nd best fighters in the world and in some cases the best, dominates over there, avenges his only knock out loss in that promotion twice over, withstood a round of Thai with Rodtang, and never once had any career issues like Jones did.

    • @GrubKiller436
      @GrubKiller436 2 місяці тому +10

      If DJ moved up in weight in UFC or ONE, it would've been huge.
      135 in ONE is basically like 125 in UFC since they do hydration tests in ONE.

    • @toxicclonejr8411
      @toxicclonejr8411 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@GrubKiller436which basically means that it's different weight

    • @pon8255
      @pon8255 2 місяці тому

      ​@@GrubKiller436 DJ vs Omalley would actually be a banger fight

    • @Unknown-tizy
      @Unknown-tizy 2 місяці тому +1

      Would Argue Demetrious Johnson would be the goat if he moved up and won the title in Bantamweight but he is only 5 ft 3 so dont blame him but hes defo in the top 4 goat list

    • @OliverOils
      @OliverOils 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Unknown-tizy That's true
      imagine if DJ has a win over TJ Dillashaw, Cody, Cruz and maybe Barao too when Barao was still there

  • @coreymcnulty5125
    @coreymcnulty5125 2 місяці тому +100

    if volk never took the short notice fight then beat Ilia he would’ve been very close

    • @Zabrixis1919
      @Zabrixis1919 2 місяці тому +24

      He’s already the goat of featherweight to most people if he didn’t take islam 2 and beat ilia he’d undeniably be the featherweight goat and he’d be a top 5 fighter of all time

    • @keyboardwarrior6591
      @keyboardwarrior6591 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Zabrixis1919top 5 fighter of all time is a huge stretch. He lost 4 times which is way too much for that convo. Anything more than 2 losses too much

    • @ulirius4379
      @ulirius4379 2 місяці тому +3

      @@keyboardwarrior6591he’s talking about if he didn’t get knocked out by ilia and islam bro

    • @danieljung4058
      @danieljung4058 2 місяці тому +9

      @@keyboardwarrior6591The premise is if he didnt take islam 2 and beat topuria, which makes his record 27-2. For reference GSP's record is 26-2.

    • @randomhandle07
      @randomhandle07 2 місяці тому +1

      I got knocked out cold into a shadow realm because I have depression 😢

  • @Barllock1
    @Barllock1 2 місяці тому +17

    If DJ were to compete in any other division than flyweight He would have been the goat to most people. Imagine being lightweight and having 11 title defences in a row

  • @felipearaujo9673
    @felipearaujo9673 2 місяці тому +40

    I think all Anderson Silva needed was retiring after beating Chael Sonnen for the second time, like he wanted. 10 title defenses, 16 fight win streak, retiring with a dominant win over his most formidable foe, he would have a good case for being the GOAT

    • @Ekdrink
      @Ekdrink 2 місяці тому

      Feel like chael woulda got em tho

    • @aidenfielding1348
      @aidenfielding1348 2 місяці тому +1

      After stephan bonnar

    • @mrmoonlight1001
      @mrmoonlight1001 2 місяці тому +5

      Fighters don’t want to retire as champ because you get PPV points for every fight until you lose the belt. It makes sense financially to wait till you lose once and then retire.

    • @GrubKiller436
      @GrubKiller436 2 місяці тому

      This is damn true.

    • @Unknown-tizy
      @Unknown-tizy 2 місяці тому +2

      Anderson Silva even if he retired then he wouldnt be higher on the goat list then Jon Jones George St Pierre Demetrious Johnson even Khabib hes around 4-6 place on goat list

  • @harshsingh6251
    @harshsingh6251 2 місяці тому +54

    DJ and GSP are the best (good number of title defence , well rounded in everything , clean fighters ,humble and respectful , )

    • @goat7728
      @goat7728 2 місяці тому +4

      DJ's most Title defenses are against guys that are irrelevant and never that good

    • @Suplex479
      @Suplex479 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@goat7728 They were better than most of Jones opponents

    • @soobi373
      @soobi373 2 місяці тому

      @@goat7728irrelevant? Maybe because flyweights always get low attention, but they were so good. Did you even saw a fight of them?😂 benavidez, ray borg, cejudo, horiguchi, tim elliot….

    • @fifi4680
      @fifi4680 2 місяці тому

      @@goat7728considering DJ just placed 2nd in a open division BJJ tournament with extremely skilled BJJ practitioners that are 6’5+ while he is 5’3 says a lot about him being one of the greatest mixed martial artists of all time

  • @aa1chris123
    @aa1chris123 2 місяці тому +23

    If Uriah Faber wasn’t called a 60 year old retired skateboarder

    • @fredk6992
      @fredk6992 2 місяці тому

      If Uriah became a chin shaking ring girl after he retired

  • @youcantseeme2244
    @youcantseeme2244 2 місяці тому +3

    GSP and DJ both did enough and did it without peds. The fact that DJ is still out there winning in another combat sport makes me want to give it to him.

  • @reeceatherton2360
    @reeceatherton2360 2 місяці тому +15

    The Reyes robbery is a bad mark on Jones resume

    • @kazzykaioken8873
      @kazzykaioken8873 2 місяці тому

      Bro.. there are many bad decisions in the ufc and people get over it. Jones clearly whooped ass in so many title fights that winning a bad decision in a 15 title defence run is not as major as haters like to make out. They all on performance enhancers too

    • @Unknown-tizy
      @Unknown-tizy 2 місяці тому +4

      and the Santos Gustafson Robberies and it makes it worser that he didnt give Santos or Reyes Rematches his real record is 25-3

    • @prashantawasthi2418
      @prashantawasthi2418 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@Unknown-tizy There is absolutely no fucking way anyone can give santos that fight.
      Reyes was a robbery and Gus was a very close fight which could go either way

    • @Unknown-tizy
      @Unknown-tizy 2 місяці тому +1

      @@prashantawasthi2418 wdym nobody is giving the Santos fight people saying Santos beat Jones A lot of them saying he did

    • @prashantawasthi2418
      @prashantawasthi2418 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Unknown-tizy That's because everyone hates Jones (which they should) but all 28 MMA judging agencies gave that fight to JJ.
      It was a clear victory for JJ

  • @JJ-eg4zm
    @JJ-eg4zm 2 місяці тому +7

    Winning a second belt would really have helped DJ, the knock against him I always see is that he was fighting lesser opponents that got rushed into title shots. Beating a big name like TJ Dillashaw or Dominick Cruz would have really helped him.

    • @kuanyshkaiyrbek8952
      @kuanyshkaiyrbek8952 2 місяці тому

      But he too small for BW and he already fought against Dominic and lost

    • @JJ-eg4zm
      @JJ-eg4zm 2 місяці тому

      @@kuanyshkaiyrbek8952 Henry Cejudo is one inch taller than him. And it not like you lose once to someone and your done rematch exist for a reason.

  • @user-xk1qe5wv8d
    @user-xk1qe5wv8d 2 місяці тому +4

    This guy's content is top tier

  • @inshal7532
    @inshal7532 2 місяці тому +4

    Jones also had super close fights with Reyes, one leg santos , and an older guy in Gustafson , a lot of people consider those wins robberies , which rly tarnished his legacy

    • @kazzykaioken8873
      @kazzykaioken8873 2 місяці тому +1

      Bro.. there are many bad decisions in the ufc and people get over it. Jones clearly whooped ass in so many title fights that winning a bad decision in a 15 title defence run is not as major as haters like to make out. They all on performance enhancers too

    • @inshal7532
      @inshal7532 2 місяці тому +1

      @@kazzykaioken8873 he’s probably the best but he has done a lot of things tht ruin his legacy , he could hv had a perfect career

  • @angrymaniac53
    @angrymaniac53 2 місяці тому +2

    The only fault of dj is that he isn't famous. Those who know about dj knows he is goat

  • @andreneumann1976
    @andreneumann1976 2 місяці тому +1

    I have a theory, I believe that Dagistan fighters keep leaving fights to avoid getting caught for doping, we just have to see that Usman fell for doping, because it doesn't make sense that they kept leaving so much

    • @glandmajor5430
      @glandmajor5430 Місяць тому

      Khabib left because hes dad died mate

  • @TheOfficialZIW
    @TheOfficialZIW 2 місяці тому +1

    Should replace “great fighter” with “goat candidate” in the title

  • @millerbai
    @millerbai 2 місяці тому +1

    Jones: No PEDs, no (or at least significantely fewer) eye-pokes.

  • @berniemacdonald8026
    @berniemacdonald8026 2 місяці тому +1

    Dana was pissed that GSP left on top on his own terms, and not on a CTE skid like Edgar or Penn

  • @averagejoe2402
    @averagejoe2402 2 місяці тому +3

    1:24
    I still genuinely believe GSP could’ve taken Whittaker. I just think stylistically it could’ve been pretty competitive on the feet and we could’ve seen Whittaker’s ground game more.
    Yoel would’ve been tough. I just think Yoel would “out-tough” him. But considering how Yoel just stood there a lot, if a ton of pressure was put on him, then I could see a potential submission by GSP.
    Sorry for the rant, just wanted to express my interest in a universe where this happened.

    • @sandd6256
      @sandd6256 2 місяці тому +2

      I agree but I understand why GSP retired

    • @Unknown-tizy
      @Unknown-tizy 2 місяці тому +1

      @@sandd6256 illness wouldt let him continue

  • @coreymcnulty5125
    @coreymcnulty5125 2 місяці тому +21

    If Jones beats aspinall it’s no longer debateable

    • @xtinctplug
      @xtinctplug 2 місяці тому +6

      Honestly

    • @N-fl8zi
      @N-fl8zi 2 місяці тому +1

      It hasn’t been debatable for year

    • @coreymcnulty5125
      @coreymcnulty5125 2 місяці тому +24

      @@N-fl8zi He has a few arguably loses and steroids I think he is but if he beats aspinall it’s 100% undeniable

    • @Totalnikkadeath
      @Totalnikkadeath 2 місяці тому +15

      @@N-fl8zieh losing to reyes is terrible in hindsight. Eye poking. Using steroids. And light heavyweight and heavyweight are the least skilled divisions

    • @RhynnMedia
      @RhynnMedia 2 місяці тому +3

      He beats women too cant forget that ​@@Totalnikkadeath

  • @imakimmy2
    @imakimmy2 2 місяці тому +1

    The greatest of their division during their era. Greatest of All time can't be determined til ALL time has been used up.

    • @user-tn5wm9pb5m
      @user-tn5wm9pb5m Місяць тому

      okay brother so lets wait until the end of time before we can say somebody is goat✌️

  • @matthew1129
    @matthew1129 Місяць тому

    Where has the idea that Jon Jones has 13 defenses come from? He has 15 title wins and 11 of those are defenses

  • @marcelaprado4951
    @marcelaprado4951 Місяць тому

    In my opinon I think that the only thing that makes DJ not to be the GOAT is the level of competition because in the epoque that he was the champion the flyweight divison was very weak, but if he had fighted against guys like Deiveson Figueiredo and Brandon Morene DJ would be the GOAT

  • @jpr3680
    @jpr3680 2 місяці тому +3

    DJ is the goat

    • @Unknown-tizy
      @Unknown-tizy 2 місяці тому +2

      St Pierre is

    • @fredk6992
      @fredk6992 2 місяці тому

      Never, nobody cares about lower weightclasses

  • @amphibianenthusiast1887
    @amphibianenthusiast1887 2 місяці тому +1

    I think you could also add not rob Reyes and actually win the fight for Jon Jones

  • @carlosvg2286
    @carlosvg2286 2 місяці тому

    Nah I disagree with GSP. It's easy to say "it was an easy fight" years after his victory but at the time it was near even and he came back from a 4 years of inactivity at 36

  • @IAyala1010
    @IAyala1010 2 місяці тому

    The thumbnail gave me a laugh I had to click on the video.

  • @jpr3680
    @jpr3680 2 місяці тому +5

    If Jones never took steroids would he actually be undefeated tho???

    • @user-kb7sl1xv5r
      @user-kb7sl1xv5r 2 місяці тому

      without steroids, without papa dana and without corrupt judges he would have already lost many years ago

    • @kazzykaioken8873
      @kazzykaioken8873 2 місяці тому +3

      Do u think Adesanya took roids? yes or no answer pls. Yall act like Jones invented performance enhancers. Chael Sonnen has already admitted he was on roids when he fought jones

    • @Unknown-tizy
      @Unknown-tizy 2 місяці тому +1

      nah

    • @alfredoalfaro5000
      @alfredoalfaro5000 2 місяці тому

      No, he'd lost the first fight agaisnt Gustaffson, Reyes (which he clearly did even with steroids) and also against DC.

    • @jpr3680
      @jpr3680 2 місяці тому +1

      @@kazzykaioken8873 I have no idea. I’m not a doctor. If he did do steroids he should’ve been punished for it. Personally I’d like to see heavier punishments for cheaters like Jones

  • @Unknown-tizy
    @Unknown-tizy 2 місяці тому +31

    George st Pierre is the GOAT

    • @pacoshutup123
      @pacoshutup123 2 місяці тому +4

      Knocked out by Matt Serra, 2 loses, left soon as usada came because he was juiced to the gills 😂😂😂 just say you like his image the best because he's not the goat. I'm a major GSP fan by the way....

    • @skeletoncrew6500
      @skeletoncrew6500 2 місяці тому +13

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@pacoshutup123you said the thing most GSP haters say so you’re clearly not a fan of his

    • @Atriaa6
      @Atriaa6 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@pacoshutup1232 loses doesn't mean anything lol. Khabib is 28-0 and he aint’t the goat, it's not just about the W-L record

    • @mirzabslmh
      @mirzabslmh 2 місяці тому +2

      29-0​@@Atriaa6

    • @Atriaa6
      @Atriaa6 2 місяці тому

      @@mirzabslmh True. My point still stands.

  • @lukeskywalkerandfriends
    @lukeskywalkerandfriends Місяць тому

    the thing with jones too is that he is literally just a bad person, which is not marketable at all and a stain on his legacy that even people who think he's the goat have to acknowledge

  • @ragevl7201
    @ragevl7201 Місяць тому

    GSP have clearest resume for goat status. he have losses but revenge it anyway, i don't think Bisping was a easy fight

  • @daghetto101
    @daghetto101 2 місяці тому

    Jose Aldo deserves to be in here

  • @pon8255
    @pon8255 2 місяці тому

    If Darren Till never took that nutshot from Masvidal

  • @timurjack8773
    @timurjack8773 2 місяці тому +7

    Jones took steroids so he can't be, and also Jones never fought outside of USA without having home field advantage, he always had that and still used steroids to get even more advantage in a shallow division, not even mention eye pokes and other scandals, hiding under the cage etc.
    Currently there are 40 LHWs and 40 HWs in UFC, compared to LWs its too shallow, LWs alone have 106 ufc fighters. LW division competition level is not close with Jones's division.
    As for Khabib, that was Dana's fault or that he was unlucky he was in Conor's popularity era, he would have minimum 5 title defenses if Dana didn't give Khabib's title shot to Conor in 2016 after tweeting Khabib fighting Alvarez not Conor. Add no.4 ranked Barboza and no.5 ranked RDA wins of Khabib as title defenses so he would have minimum 5 if Dana gave his title shot in 2016.
    The thing with Khabib, people need to realize he was the first Russian UFC champion in modern ufc era, not Fedor, Fedor never fought in UFC, thats equivalent of if UFC was in Russia and Jones went to Russia to win the title, Jones already has problems in his home country USA how well he could do if he had to fight in a different country that speaks different language and different culture. Jones could have failed.
    So maybe if Conor didn't exist, Khabib would get his title shot earlier and would have 5 or 6 defenses minimum, would be advanced version of Usman or Volk since Khabib is undefeated they are not.
    But on the other hand, Conor stole Khabib's title shot but also made Khabib a megastar more famous than Jon Jones (Khabib has 37M IG followers, Jones has only 8M, its not even close) so its arguable which is better now, being a more famous megastar in MMA or having more accomplishments as a fighter in MMA.

    • @aidenfielding1348
      @aidenfielding1348 2 місяці тому

      Khabib lost to gleison

    • @ChimieEmeruwa
      @ChimieEmeruwa 2 місяці тому

      According to your statement it's about the person who has more reach because you compared Khabib with Jon Jones, that means Conor Mc Gregor is the real goat because he has 47 million followers and Khabib only has 37 million followers. Now you realize that your statement makes no sense

  • @SoulAlmighty1660
    @SoulAlmighty1660 2 місяці тому

    Dj could have been bantamweight champ

  • @anthonyontv1061
    @anthonyontv1061 2 місяці тому +1

    Honestly I think George st. Khabib is the GOAT

  • @brandonnn9543
    @brandonnn9543 2 місяці тому +2

    Everyone in the ufc is on something

  • @JsHd-iy8il
    @JsHd-iy8il 2 місяці тому +1

    Fedor

  • @worer850
    @worer850 2 місяці тому +1

    GSP

  • @joshuathomas3500
    @joshuathomas3500 2 місяці тому +1

    Jones has couple of skeletons in his closet no doubt steriods, Gustafsson, and never forget Reyes.

  • @pingu6028
    @pingu6028 2 місяці тому +5

    I think the argument for Khabib can be made because of how easy he made it look to dominate all the guys in one of the best divisions. Would have been cool to see him fight Volkanovski (who is a bad matchup) or Islam tho. I think Islam will be similar than him and just retire on top.

    • @mjtcry4566
      @mjtcry4566 2 місяці тому +1

      he wouldn’t have ever fought islam

    • @zaeynalamgir1384
      @zaeynalamgir1384 2 місяці тому

      hear me out Guyz
      if ISLAM has the following bouts and wins then I think he is the 4th GOAT of MMA
      ISLAM VS OLIVS/ARMAN = ISLAM
      ISLAM VS GAETHJE = ISLAM
      ISLAM VS LEON = ISLAM
      ISLAM VS SHAVKAT = ISLAM
      ISLAM VS IAN GARRY/ JDM = ISLAM
      IT WOULD BE 4 TITLE DEFENSE IN 155, TITLE WIN + 3 TITLE DEFENSE IN 170
      EASILY 4TH GOAT OR EVEN THE GOAT

    • @burakgec1262
      @burakgec1262 2 місяці тому

      ​@@zaeynalamgir1384 if he could do that he would be the undeniable goat

    • @zaeynalamgir1384
      @zaeynalamgir1384 2 місяці тому

      yeah.... he ended Oliviera's 12-win streak, volks 11-win streak, first person to defeat volk in UFC,
      if he defeats oliveira gaethje then he will be the 155 goat and if he does the same thing in 170 then the undeniable goat@@burakgec1262

    • @rarestpepe3917
      @rarestpepe3917 2 місяці тому

      @@zaeynalamgir1384i doubt islam could win against leon or shavkat, i feel like leon and shavkat are way too well rounded and big for islam. not to mention leon already has plenty of experience fighting grapplers such as usman or colby while being an absolute killer on the feet.

  • @michaelhuerter1921
    @michaelhuerter1921 2 місяці тому

    I don’t think there will ever be another Jon Jones. Yeah he juiced but so do like 90% of the fighters, Nate Diaz even said it. Is he an awful person? Yes. Would I take him in his prime to fight anyone? Also yes

    • @user-kb7sl1xv5r
      @user-kb7sl1xv5r 2 місяці тому

      It's not just the use of drugs, but he was also always benefited by the judges and Dana, also imagine how much drugs he must have had in his blood so that in a sport where EVERYONE takes drugs he is the only one who was detected, chemical bomb

  • @carlosvg2286
    @carlosvg2286 2 місяці тому +1

    With Jon Jones I think the main argument and almost only solid argument on him being the Goat is his 1st reign.
    On his 2nd reign exclusively he wasn't near as dominant, not being able to finish no defense and in all honesty he only beat Gustafson and Smith. It was too close with Santos and got beat by Reyes who ended up losing against the rest of the contenders later
    And for his HW reign you could say the same thing about the stylistic match up with Gane. The only way he can still be the undeniable GOAT is a dominant unification against Aspinall

  • @batman5071
    @batman5071 2 місяці тому

    If Volk beat Islam and Ilia, or atleast FW goat undeniable if he beat Ilia.

  • @user-io1qp3og5h
    @user-io1qp3og5h 2 місяці тому +2

    Khabib also has a somewhat padded record. Plus I'm pretty sure Khabib isn't natty.

  • @carlosvg2286
    @carlosvg2286 2 місяці тому +1

    Khabib wouldn't have needed that much defenses bc he basically cleared the division. Who was left? Charles? Maybe Chandler? The rest would have been "given" defenses like Jones vs Sonnen or vs Belfort
    I think trying the Champ-Champ is a better argument

  • @eliaspatron4707
    @eliaspatron4707 2 місяці тому

    Someone being a goat to me means great inside and outside the octagon like ali

  • @The_LostSky
    @The_LostSky 2 місяці тому +2

    GSP🐐

  • @carlosvg2286
    @carlosvg2286 2 місяці тому

    For me, being dominated by Chael on the 1st fight takes Silva off the equation. And not retiring soon enough damaged his legacy. And of course the Weidman fight

  • @QenaitheCustodianGuard
    @QenaitheCustodianGuard 2 місяці тому +2

    People who say Jones is the GOAT have no moral standards and listens way too much to JRE.
    Why is it so hard to understand that cheating is just that, cheating and why is it suddenly okay to cheat in MMA? A sport were it arguably has more impact on people's lives and health than any other sport.

  • @DarkWarrior_1
    @DarkWarrior_1 2 місяці тому

    Jon jones is the GOAT there is no discussion about it, what are you talking about?

  • @Notreallyhereanymore
    @Notreallyhereanymore 2 місяці тому +1

    The only thing that stopped khabib from being the GOAT was more title defences. He could have definitely beaten Michael Chandler, Charles Olivera, Conor for the second time, Tony ferguson, Max holloway, Nate Diaz, and anyone else he would have fought in the LW division.

  • @dreaddark2861
    @dreaddark2861 2 місяці тому

    The real GOAT is Artem Lobov

  • @user-nv2wt4hi8t
    @user-nv2wt4hi8t 2 місяці тому +4

    Bisping who KO'd prime Rockhold, defeated top 5 GOAT Anderson and arguably beat prime Rashad and Chael (who ragdolled Silva right after) is way more dangerous than Jones beating novice wrestler Ciryl Gane who beat fat journeymen like Tai (with difficulty) and Lewis. But yeah, GSP beating Whittaker would have cementer him.

    • @user-nv2wt4hi8t
      @user-nv2wt4hi8t 2 місяці тому

      Chael ragdolled Silva before Bisping*

    • @worer850
      @worer850 2 місяці тому

      Facts. My take exactly

    • @GrubKiller436
      @GrubKiller436 2 місяці тому

      ​@@user-nv2wt4hi8tChael is a good fighter though. No cap.

    • @DADRB0B55
      @DADRB0B55 2 місяці тому

      Bisping literally had a physical disability when he fought GSP, in his time he got his ass beat by Tim Kennedy

  • @juegobuenoyomalo9501
    @juegobuenoyomalo9501 2 місяці тому +2

    The nerve
    Dude calls khabib fans casuals and then says he never fought a good grappler, when the whole narrative for a good while was that, actually, he never fought a good striker, people overhyped the Connor fight, people overhyped the Justin Gaethje fight, people were so sure once Khabib fought a good striker that was going to be his undoing, i don't know how long you been watching the UFC but the khabib never fought a good wrestler is something youtubers started saying 2 years ago and since then everyone been repeating that shit, it's just people repeating shit they've read on the internet
    And just in case, no, i don't think khabib's the goat, possibly not even top 5, but it's not because he didn't fight a good grappler, Khabib was a far better wrestler than anyone else on the UFC, if someone was gonna get him, it was a striker. actually, Connor looked pretty good against him. And well, Tibau, but dude was juiced up so I wouldn't count that.

    • @juegobuenoyomalo9501
      @juegobuenoyomalo9501 2 місяці тому

      Also, and this is besides the point, but I don't think title defenses should be so important when discussing GOATs. Same with rings in the NBA. Like, they should be there of course, but the discussion should be "can this dude on his prime beat the shit out of this dude on his prime based on these dudes fights". Unless you want to differenciate between BOAT and GOAT, which to me is really dumb but sure go ahead.

    • @Venerable-nv9sk
      @Venerable-nv9sk 2 місяці тому +2

      I actually think that title defenses are of major importante when you talk about GOATs.
      To be the greatest in MMA is not just about how good and dominant you were in your fights, it's about how consistent can you be with that dominance over a long period of time when most people alive will have that fire burn out after a while as well as proving your skills against many diferent opponents with diferent styles that are coming after you with the same hunger you had in the beginning.

    • @PeterGriffingigity
      @PeterGriffingigity 2 місяці тому +1

      true that

    • @Atriaa6
      @Atriaa6 2 місяці тому

      People get offended so easily .... Not all Khabib fans are casuals, but every causal thanks Khabib is the GOAT. He actually said "most Khabib fans". It's scary to see how grown people can’t understand a basic sentence.

    • @juegobuenoyomalo9501
      @juegobuenoyomalo9501 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Atriaa6 I never said he said all of them. I said he said something dumb and that's why I left a comment. It's scary how grown people can't understand a basic sentence.

  • @DarkWarrior_1
    @DarkWarrior_1 2 місяці тому +1

    My GOAT list
    1) Jon Jones
    2) Anderson Silva
    3) GSP
    4) DJ

  • @skilsuvulcan9770
    @skilsuvulcan9770 2 місяці тому

    Jon jones maybe not like perfect relative to himself but he’s the best relative to everybody else

  • @gokublack316
    @gokublack316 2 місяці тому +3

    The most annoying one is khabib , he could become the goat , he had the character and skills to be the goat
    But his father passing made him leave in the start of his prime
    He could've gone 41-0-0

    • @rarestpepe3917
      @rarestpepe3917 2 місяці тому

      khabib couldve been the goat if he didnt marry his cousin!

  • @jodatruthGod
    @jodatruthGod 2 місяці тому +3

    The push back in Khabib being the GOAT has some validity, but it ultimately falls flat in my opinion. It all gets superficial. Sure, he only had 3 title defenses, but absolutely dominated the best of the best at the time. He didn't lose many rounds in his fights and barely took any damage throughout his entire career. He was such an elite that he looked mythical. He never got caught cheating with PEDs, no dirty figting (eye pokes/) and there was never any questionable decision win. He clearly dominated his fights. Before retirement, he showed no signs of slowing down. Even those he beat like Porier and Gathche are still top competition today. His much less talented student dominated Olivera, so what do we think would have happened if Olivera fought Khabib? Islam is under Khabib and is the champ right now. Overall, everyone else in this goat conversation has either lost fights, been caught cheating, eye poking, lost many rounds, etc. Khabib has not and has had a flawless career in the UFC.

    • @jodatruthGod
      @jodatruthGod 2 місяці тому

      @@Syzyzygy What's interesting is that Jones was tested in his fights with Gustafson, Thiago, Sanchez and Reyes when he actually passed the drug tests post USADA. My point is, the PEDs most likely attributed to some of his dominant performances in the past is the issue. Between him cheating and fighting dirty, that taints his legacy a bit. On the subject of Khabib, he was tested in his fights but still dominated. Gathche hit him hard, Porier almost submitted him, and he even said Connor was tough. Khabib made it look easy but it wasn't easy. He performed at such an elite level and he did it without controversies or cheating. Also, he pretty much cleared out his division at the time. Who do you honestly believe was going to beat him? Khabib had discipline that not only kept him undefeated, but undisputably the most dominant fighter. Those feats are not superficial. They are feats no one else on this goat convo achieved and I don't think that's something can be minimized. Also, I just realized this. As of right now, Khabib has more fights than Jones. If Jones retires with no losses and more fights than Khabib, then that's another convo.

    • @jodatruthGod
      @jodatruthGod 2 місяці тому

      @@Syzyzygy Sure, but that wasn't the basis for my argument. I just noticed Jon doesn't have more fights than Khabib, but I wouldn't say that immensely affects the GOAT convo. Both George and Khabib have exhibited exemplary character. Connor was also belligerent and picked fights with Khabib first. Overall, I definitely put George in the convo. I've gone back and forth over those two for years.The reason I still lean toward Khabib is simply becsuse of what I've already stated. Khabib finished dominant and and undefeated. George has an impressive resume, but did lose twice and both of them were finishes. I think you can make decent argument for both guys being the Goat. Khabib was a more dominant fighter than George and only lost two rounds in the entirety of his UFC career. I guess it boils down to which you believe is more impressive. George who was a legendary competitor with two avenged losses who became a double champ? Or Khabib who virtually took no damage throughout his UFC career, only lost two rounds, cleaned out his division, and retired undefeated? I already let you know my take. I will say if there was anyone who was going to take down Khabib, it would have been George. Likewise, I also have to say that if there was anyone else who was going to take down George, it would have definitely been Khabib.

  • @Realivangarcia
    @Realivangarcia 2 місяці тому

    The most exceptional fighters
    1. Jon Jones
    2. GSP
    3. Demetrius Johnson
    4. Anderson Silva
    5. Amanda Nunes (best women fighter)
    No one comes close to these fighters in terms of accolades.

  • @tylersams321
    @tylersams321 2 місяці тому

    Jon Jones being a terrible person disqualifies him from 🐐 conversation

  • @Slim-MMA
    @Slim-MMA 2 місяці тому +3

    Aldo is the GOAT so he doesn’t need to be in this video.

  • @nyasha_ish
    @nyasha_ish 2 місяці тому

    Abt 50 yearsin the future ppl will be saying Jon Jones was not the greatest of all time in MMA coz he took steroids against one dimensional farmers

  • @harimohil3359
    @harimohil3359 2 місяці тому

    Great list but I respectfully think Jones is more skilled than DJ pfp. Never lost, perfect fight IQ, and when you’re at LHW you gotta learn how to fight with power punchers vs flyweight with speed demons. Skill doesn’t go down as weight goes up, it’s just different

    • @youcantseeme2244
      @youcantseeme2244 2 місяці тому

      Skill definitely goes down from 185 and up. I mean, you genuinely can't tell me that heavyweight is a skilled division and not filled with a bunch of fat guys slugging it out. DC even admitted the heavier guys aren't as good and there is a video on this channel all about how the HW division sucks. DJ is WAY more skilled than Jones and didn't rely on having a ridiculous frame advantage his whole career. DJ and GSP are the epitome of being well-rounded and did everything nearly perfect.

    • @harimohil3359
      @harimohil3359 2 місяці тому

      @@youcantseeme2244 DJ has lost a handful of times, and Jones has defeated bigger opponents. Jones is more skilled. Jones also doesn’t have much KO power, and had to make up for that with skill and outclassing opponents. So I would argue that skill does not go down, especially if one does not rely so much on power

    • @DADRB0B55
      @DADRB0B55 2 місяці тому +1

      @youcantseeme2244 That’s not a fact, you have to look at the actual skill present right now 135lbs is the most superior weight class it’s not even a close
      205lbs has been the deepest weight division for a decent percentage of MMA history until around 2011-2012, DC & Gus skill for skill is a better fighters than trash like DP & Justin who are top 5 LW’s
      As for DJ where is he more skilled ? If you saying he is a better wrestler or grappler then your factually incorrect, DJ has a measly 65% TDD Jones had over 90% & Jones has wrestlef’d olympians & tapped out ADCC medalists.
      Striking ? Jones has outstruck prime Shogun, Machida, Glover, Rashad Evans & a fully loaded TRT Belfort.
      Better use of elbows, knees & kicks with more variety overall, oblique kicks, axe kicks, spinning back kick & elbow, greco-Roman/Judo takedowns, no one has shown more to be more well rounded than Jon Jones

  • @shahid1071
    @shahid1071 2 місяці тому +2

    Khabib is the Goat

    • @ewan5421
      @ewan5421 2 місяці тому

      tbh i think makhachev is better than khabib was

    • @user-kb7sl1xv5r
      @user-kb7sl1xv5r 2 місяці тому

      @@ewan5421 no, the guy literally has 0 defenses against people of the same weight and already lose once

    • @ewan5421
      @ewan5421 2 місяці тому

      @@user-kb7sl1xv5r if he gets a few title defences it’s 100%, he has great grappling but he’s also better than khabib in standup, and his opponents have generally been of higher level

  • @machoboys8884
    @machoboys8884 2 місяці тому +7

    Honestly Jon Jones isn’t unanimously respected as the undeniable GOAT purely cause he’s a slightly bad person. He’s the GOAT haters

    • @Zabrixis1919
      @Zabrixis1919 2 місяці тому +14

      Slightly?

    • @Unknown-tizy
      @Unknown-tizy 2 місяці тому +3

      george st pierre is the goat

    • @machoboys8884
      @machoboys8884 2 місяці тому +1

      @Zabrixis1919 Yeah a lot of the stuff he’s done is overblown/not that bad. He’s far from a good person but he’s not that bad a guy. It’s just that if someone was making an underdog MMA type movie Jon Jones is the definition of the main antagonist

    • @machoboys8884
      @machoboys8884 2 місяці тому +1

      @Unknown-xm4cs Then what does that make Matt Sera???👀👀👀

    • @Totalnikkadeath
      @Totalnikkadeath 2 місяці тому +6

      And the loss to reyes and the steroids and the cheating and fouls. And hes doing what he did to significantly smaller guys than him for most of his career.

  • @spyrothedragon091
    @spyrothedragon091 2 місяці тому

    Yea all the top guys are on roids, for jon i say maybe finish reyes? Still goat anyway

  • @samesusn
    @samesusn 2 місяці тому

    Not DC? DELETE this video

    • @EliteMMAv2
      @EliteMMAv2 2 місяці тому

      How can he be the GOAT when he lost twice to.jones and twice to stipe?

  • @aminesalim5739
    @aminesalim5739 2 місяці тому +3

    Gsp 1
    Jonse 2
    Khabib 3
    Dj 4
    Silva 5

    • @kimsoo16
      @kimsoo16 2 місяці тому

      Kebab ain't top5 inbred🤡

    • @salem927
      @salem927 2 місяці тому

      Jones, Silva, GSP, khabib, dj

    • @Satn17
      @Satn17 2 місяці тому +3

      Khabib not even top 10😅😅😅

    • @aminesalim5739
      @aminesalim5739 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Satn17 Why🤨?
      Who are the 10 who are better than Khabib?

    • @aminesalim5739
      @aminesalim5739 2 місяці тому

      @@salem927
      For me gsp is the GOAT He retired at the top, a complete fighter It is difficult to find fault with his career

  • @infomex3383
    @infomex3383 2 місяці тому

    DJ should've moved up instead fighting complete bums at flyweight, guys who never belonged in the UFC

    • @felipearaujo9673
      @felipearaujo9673 2 місяці тому +1

      DJ is literally the smallest fighter in UFC history. He fought at BW and got smashed by Dominick Cruz

    • @luliu4572
      @luliu4572 2 місяці тому +1

      In an interview with Rampage, he said that he would have. He said that if TJ couldn't make weight (which everyone knew TJ was not going to do) Then he would fight TJ for his belt. But no, Dana responded with a threat to cancel the Flyweight Division.

    • @infomex3383
      @infomex3383 2 місяці тому

      so he had to stay at flyweight and fight absolute cans, he fought at bw in one championship and did decent, against cans there who weren't good enough for the ufc@@felipearaujo9673

  • @jasonmendes8169
    @jasonmendes8169 2 місяці тому +1

    W list, W takes, and W channel

  • @ilyesilyes9485
    @ilyesilyes9485 2 місяці тому +7

    Where is volk

    • @The_LostSky
      @The_LostSky 2 місяці тому

      In my pfp.

    • @aminesalim5739
      @aminesalim5739 2 місяці тому +1

      He doesn't have anything special Any fighter can do what Volk did

    • @misterwachulochulo5262
      @misterwachulochulo5262 2 місяці тому +1

      below Aldo

    • @isaacmendes1926
      @isaacmendes1926 2 місяці тому

      ​@@aminesalim5739 you're delusional

    • @ilyesilyes9485
      @ilyesilyes9485 2 місяці тому

      @@misterwachulochulo5262 Aldo in his prime (28 years old) the first fight against one of the ultimate best he got slept in what 20 seconds 😂😂 that's against Conor McGregor if you don't know when Conor was hungry Conor was 25 years old not even in his ultimate prime
      Than when he faced another one of the best fighters to ever do it Max Holloway he got TKOed twice 2 Times Max Holloway was 25 your God Aldo was 31 his ultimate prime
      And when he fought against the real 🐐of the feather weight volk he lost again
      So below what your candy behind 😂

  • @benerdick_cumberbiatch
    @benerdick_cumberbiatch 2 місяці тому

    Jones not take steroids.
    Demetrious Johnson, nothing, he's the goat.
    Silva not take steroids while Jones takes them and get two more title wins.
    GSP actually beat Hendrix and then get 2 more title wins.
    Aldo, get two more title wins. Volkanovski get 6 more title wins.
    Usman get 6 or 7 title wins and not do steroids.
    Izzy, get 6 or 7 more title defences and not do steroids while Silva does.
    Khamzat Chimaev, shut up and fight.