The grappling of the Finnish army is simply complete
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- This video discusses grappling techniques of the Finnish army during the Second World War.
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Do you happen to have the source of the video? Judo was introduced to Finland after the war. So, arm locks were not known widely before that. I have never seen this video although I am a Finn.
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1957.
The tricks and techniques are often quite natural. Kano did not really "invent " them. He developed a program (at first of course on Japanese "philosophy").
However, correct or criticise my comment if you think different.
A lot of the arm locks could have came from catch
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Yes, Catch as Catch can.
Chadi, I know you don't like to hear this and I've told you many times, you are a very important part of grappling history. You have a legacy. We thank you.
I really appreciate this. Thank you
Good job, Chadi. My 35 years old son who practices both Judo and BJJ appreciates what you do and me, too
Definitely Japanese jujitsu.
3:04 We call this move "Grape vines" or "Saturday night ride"🤣 hurts your legs like shit if you're on the bottom.
yes, common in folkstyle. I actually submitted in a wrestling match in the late 70s in the move. Embarrassing..
Thank you very much dude for the great job you do conducting comparative analysis!
Could some of this come from Finnish folk wrestling?
"Suomen armeijan kamppailu on yksinkertaisesti valmis"
👆 a nonsensical translation 👆
The grappling of the Finnish army is simply complete
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Suomen armeijan sotilaspaini on yksinkertaisesti täydellistä.
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BJJ is simply Judo Maeda lineage
Love your work. Thanks a lot for sharing.
Did you ever think about doing something about schwingen / swiss wrestling? I would be pleased
Amazing, thorough and effective. Thanks
As a Finn I'm more than happy, that even others than Finns bring forth these things; even though I thought Finnish army didn't have an actual CQC system in the present meaning of the word - maybe apart from some basic wrestling and boxing (or fist fighting) - and of course using a knife, which most soldiers carried. Today it's totally different: we have martial arts such as Scandinavian Defendo, Hokutoryu (The North Star style) jujutsu, founded by soke Auvo Niiniketo and even our own "Korean style" Boreal Hanmoodo (pronounced hanmodo)
Да, Финляндия должна и обязана готовиться к войне с Россией, изучая украинский опыт, подключать надо и мигрантов, особенно тех кто бежал из России.
Interesting. 🤔
Why did i think that mount escape was something the Gracies invented. I thought a lot of BJJ was judo, but never seen a judoka do that mount escape. And now here it is, The Finnish Army doing decades ago. You learn something new everyday.
Haha in Finland we have this thing called 'paini' , wrestling. Subbed.
Torille
This is 1957 the finns got these moves from the russians/soviets because by that time the russians had well developed schools of Japanese judo and their own sambo! The russians taught the finns because after the war finnland was neutral and in many ways there was open travel for the finns into the USSR! The finns learned these moves from the russian sambo and Japanese judo and didn't invent them! I read sambo books in russian from that era it's basically the same stuff but much more detailed and thorough! Looks like in this Finnish video the selected the basics!
There is a finnish full contact trad jujutsu style called hokuto ryu jujutsu. Look it up
it's not trad, it's mix of English jujutsu and kickboxing.
@@OsRaunio its not english, its mixture of japanese styles, reason it never was given status of "style" (has nothing add into jujutsu)
@@flyfin108 Its a British mix of different styles and sports (like judo and karate), so it is called British jujitsu. Niiniketo learned first in Sweden from Hans Greger until blue belt in their ranking system, then met the British Robert Clark and Richerd Morris who granted him black belt and later 10th dan and soke title. They did not follow any traditional style and there are no good information who were their techers and what styles or sports they did train, and what they just red from books, so it's far removed from any traditional style.
@@OsRaunio Auvo is still bitter for not receiving right to bear Ryu (style) in the name from japan, hence the origins are "obscured". only thing he needed to do was invent something new and present it to em, he couldnt do that. he still calls it Ryu tho
@@OsRaunio disclaimer: everything i know about it is just hear talk, no idea what is real and what is not and this was before internets
Wow! Outstanding video and presentation!
Tom of Finland would approve
3:01 Shinto Rikugo Ryu popping up!!
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All your videos are updated, very interesting and excellent. I hope you will show videos about Russian military hand-to-hand combat
Never knew we had grappling training. In my conscript time we hit the gym once and I recall we had boxing gloves and did sort of tag or sumo like pushing, mainly physical exercising rather than martial art or combat training.
will absolutely double ankle pick dive in my next comp, THANK YOU!
Interesting emough for its time but if they didnt spar they wouldnt be able to use any of it under pressure.Also the finish army would always operate in very cold conditions so no gi is less applicable,it would be bulky jackets and unfavourable footing.
just some feedback, your voice is way to compressed. the mouth sounds and breathing is very very loud.
I don’t care. He is a martial artist & so am I. I am here for the knowledge not the audio engineering
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@@mattgoodmangoodmanlawnmowi2454 You realize you don’t speak for the entire world right?
location looks to be Suomenlinna (Viaborg) or other coastal fortification
Your educational videos are top of the line I would have to do research on 20 book's for a while in order to get the informative I get from you in just a few days.
Thanks! Great video!
Muito bom , excelente , show de bola.
Excellent as always.
Awesome!
Chadi, excellent video, I really enjoyed!
I wonder how much of it is traditional wrestling. Finns used to have a strong wrestling culture, but it died out which is why we cant really know anything about traditional Finnish wrestling. We do have records of Estonian wrestling having similar trips and hip throws as judo.
probably similar to catch? Body mechanics are pretty much the same anywhere
Look up swedish jacket wrestling. Swedes lived next to finns so probably have some similarities to the extinct finnic system.
That leap at the knee area looks like something John Jones should attempt from his pre fight crouch. Imagine 250 lbs+ momentum coming at your kneecaps. 😮
I think nobody in MMA does this (or the single-leg version) because they find it too risky. That kneecap or that foot could shoot towards the head. But in a combat scenario it is likely to come as a total surprise, and the opponent may be trying to pull a weapon, for which the change of level will be really good.
@ca1498 Good point. Risky enough against an untrained opponent or even in practice.
But I really don't think anyone would expect it, because of the risk.
Reminded me of these dudes I saw get into a fight. The big guy, (and by big I mean fat) came at the little guy, and wouldn't you know it, big guy slips and falls/rolls directly into the little guys kneecap, ending the fight. Hahaha!
Red Army much better
Red army was destroyed by Finland.
@@Muhammed-Muhammedда? Это когда? В параллельной реальности?😮
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