Ohh yeah and don't forget to make it challenging. I did notice some enemies in your level which had no purpose but to slow you down in your level though☝
A useful thing to know: you should put 2-4 backgrounds in a level. I personally use 3. I choose: 1 for indoors, 1 for out doors and another for a screen that goes on top of a outdoor one.
Nice and good techniques and ideas! Editing is awesome i must say lol i enjoyed while watching. Hope this'll be helpful for new creators. 3:52 cool level design! I may give it a shot sometime! 4:54 Look at this COINCIDENCE!! This is my text edited level!! I feel lucky haha. 5:15 Spiked Wall Man as boss pls devs
Our biggest piece of advice for any level: if you're going to put in a section that requires a special weapon to get past always make sure to provide the player a fast and easy way to refill that weapon at the start of that section. There is nothing worse than running into a section of the level that's impossible without rush jet or something after hitting a point of no return checkpoint and the level is like "Did you use all your RJ energy cheesing the yoko block puzzle earlier? Guess you have to restart the level from the very beginning! -troll face- ". We keep seeing this and we will instantly down vote any level that does this.
My rule of thumb: If they were given all the chances and yet they still fucked up they deserved it. Now, I'm not saying you shouldn't fix softlocks, I'm just saying if the only way someone could possibly get trapped is through openly trying to get trapped, let 'em get trapped.
A great fix I've seen is the checkpoint rooms that you'd see in any good metroidvania level. The infinite health and weapon energy pickups are a great way to prevent softlocks. It also levels the playing field between lives, as you always go past the checkpoint room refreshed regardless of if you lost a life or not. The only issue is that they also remove any need for ammo conservation, since each checkpoint gives the player a complete reload. The pros definitely outweigh the cons here, but the con does need to be balanced around to prevent people from just spamming strong yet costly weapons.
A far as People can do Text-Editing that some of us can't do I don't play Text-Editing Levels either I don't play random levels from people unless their creative, What a better stage to play some like Vent Crystal would try it, either normal or hard to do. Plus making a good level need some better checkpoint placement, Don't make them far too long
I see text editing as the best way to make a good level, but if people can't even make good levels with the normal tools I just can't even mention it lol. About the checkpoints, I totally agree! There are a lot of levels with unfair or cheap death places, and then make you try again from the start. Levels like that just make me want to quit playing it, honestly.
I really like your videos! It gave me some great tips for Mega Man Maker, and I can't wait to start posting videos on this game myself! Your humor and editing were incredible. I can't believe you only have 398 subs. Glad to be number 399.
Thank you very much Lemmy! I'm really glad you enjoyed my video! As you have noticed I am not making many videos now, but I might still upload a video from time to time.
this video is very well made and informative! the level palette idea seems very helpful. i just found your channel and im defintely going to subscribe!
These are some great tips! I've been working on a Metroidvania level for a little while and I'm definitely using the palette room idea from now on. That'll make things so much easier and, more importantly, consistent.
Wow! Thank you very much for your careful explanation and subtitles, great!👏😍👍 As a person who likes to make weird levels, I may not follow these rules. Lol But I often follow a principle: the level must be reasonable😉
I started work on a gimmick level revolving around magnets and this has helped a ton for the design. It’s nowhere close to done, but I’m really happy with where it’s going.
@@GameFeverOnline I’ve uploaded a WIP of the level, if you wanna try it out the ID is 536429. There are already a few things I’m working on improving. If you end up playing it, please let me know what you think!
This is pretty impressive. I know it's old but this video is helpful. Especially since I've been struggling to think of a couple robot master stages of my own.
I do not know if you have said that you do not put enemies at the beginning or at the control points of the level these places should be so that the player can rest and feel prepared for the next challenge
@@GameFeverOnline Tim but "The Room Of Thingies" is used for getting the items for the level easier instead of getting them in their catalog? I don't know this beacause I use that room for copying that specific thing.
Hi gfo! Im remaking cyber shadow stage 1! My stage will likely be ready by next week! Cyber shadow is a traditional 11 stage ps4 game, you get more upgrades on further levels, you can also go back to earlier levels, for more stuff And its music is ABSOLUTE BAGER ALL THE WAY AROUND
Nice tips about to be a better level creator. I have one question about the tileset "room": Can you actually "grab" (copy) tiles and enemies from there without going to the menu? If yes what key/button does this? Or is this tileset room just for a reminder for yourself?
If I'm not mistaken you can add tiles (and maybe enemies) to the favorites part and access it by pressing Tab. You can also press Shift-Tab to access the recents menu. Sorry for the late reply..
@@Getagirlfriend-y4e A troll doesn't always have to kill the player (especially if you're going to make a fair level). A good example of a harmless surprise element is in Wily Stage 2 in Mega Man 4. There's a part where there's two ladders to go up, and if you pick the wrong ladder, there's a buzz saw enemy and no way up. Though, you can just climb back down; you'll only get hit by the buzz saw enemy if you're not paying attention.
@@Getagirlfriend-y4e Honestly? 4 might be my favorite. It has it's fair share of awkward jumps and spike placements, but it more than makes up for those with my favorite arsenal of Robot Master weapons, and great Robot Masters themselves. The Cossack stages are among my favorites as well, all being pretty creative.
I feel like you could explain things a lot better, you kinda gloss over stuff like enemy variety without talking about the important information. You can make a level with 3, 5, or even 8 enemies you just need to let people know HOW to use their enemies and make them all leave an impression on the player
Yes, you are right. You could design a perfect level, but if the player doesn't know how you wanted your level to be played then the level starts to get frustrating, confusing, or even unfair.
@@GameFeverOnline Not really what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that you could elaborate on things better, like on how to introduce enemy types and different challenges instead of just how many you 'need' giving recommendations are great but you need good examples.
Gfo: try not to make stuff too hard, and try to visualise how you would play it from first play Furiousmaximum: *HAHA THIS EASY GONNA ADD 1 BLOCK SLIDE HEADBUMP JUMP WITH MEGA SPIKES AND PUT RED BEAMS ALL AROUND WOW THIS IS TOO EASY NOW QUINTUPLE NADO JUMP SPIKE PIT BLAST WHILE FIGHT BOSS WOW TOO EASY I MAKE RAIN WITH 8 BLOCK JUMP AND A NO JUMP PART HAHAHAHA TOO EASY I MAKE 32 WIND JUMP PLUS 32 MEGABALL JUMP WITH 4 DASH JUMP AND WHEEL CUTTER WALL AND THEN CLEAR BOSS WITHOUT TOUCHING GROUND HAHAHAHAH, WOW TO EASY I MAKE 10 CUTMAN WITH PROTOSHIELD AND 10 ICEMAN NEXT ROOM WITH PROTOSHIELD THEN MAGNET CIELING PLUS BASS DOUBLE JUMP TOO EASY I MAKE QUICKMAN BOSS* oh crap too hard
haha I'm going to make a clip with what sparkman is boring in my opinion it's fun to fight in my opinion it's a little hard to fight I find sparkman funny
Haha! I think SparkMan is just that his actions are too slow and the damage he causes to players is generally not high. But in fact, SparkMan's plasticity is very high, because he has a spread attack and a charging attack that will target the player, which allows him to make many different modifications, and it will not be too far.
Ohh yeah and don't forget to make it challenging. I did notice some enemies in your level which had no purpose but to slow you down in your level though☝
This comment is proof that even I don't make perfect levels ;)
lol I actually do make challenging levels and still get downvoted for it.
@@AngryDigitalNerd its not about the votes its about how good the level is
@@GameFeverOnline i Just Downloaded the Game ON my Phone and i unpacked the ZIP File but how do i Play IT?
@@e2011ugdia i don't think you have the right file unless your game is an APK or whatever device you're on
A useful thing to know: you should put 2-4 backgrounds in a level. I personally use 3. I choose: 1 for indoors, 1 for out doors and another for a screen that goes on top of a outdoor one.
Nice and good techniques and ideas! Editing is awesome i must say lol i enjoyed while watching. Hope this'll be helpful for new creators.
3:52 cool level design! I may give it a shot sometime!
4:54 Look at this COINCIDENCE!! This is my text edited level!! I feel lucky haha.
5:15 Spiked Wall Man as boss pls devs
Thank you my friend! Timestamps hype ;)
Our biggest piece of advice for any level: if you're going to put in a section that requires a special weapon to get past always make sure to provide the player a fast and easy way to refill that weapon at the start of that section. There is nothing worse than running into a section of the level that's impossible without rush jet or something after hitting a point of no return checkpoint and the level is like "Did you use all your RJ energy cheesing the yoko block puzzle earlier? Guess you have to restart the level from the very beginning! -troll face- ". We keep seeing this and we will instantly down vote any level that does this.
I totally agree. Level makers make players restart the whole level if they use a weapon on the wrong spot, instead of fixing and removing the cheese.
My rule of thumb: If they were given all the chances and yet they still fucked up they deserved it. Now, I'm not saying you shouldn't fix softlocks, I'm just saying if the only way someone could possibly get trapped is through openly trying to get trapped, let 'em get trapped.
A great fix I've seen is the checkpoint rooms that you'd see in any good metroidvania level. The infinite health and weapon energy pickups are a great way to prevent softlocks. It also levels the playing field between lives, as you always go past the checkpoint room refreshed regardless of if you lost a life or not. The only issue is that they also remove any need for ammo conservation, since each checkpoint gives the player a complete reload. The pros definitely outweigh the cons here, but the con does need to be balanced around to prevent people from just spamming strong yet costly weapons.
A far as People can do Text-Editing that some of us can't do I don't play Text-Editing Levels either I don't play random levels
from people unless their creative, What a better stage to play some like Vent Crystal would try it, either normal or hard to do.
Plus making a good level need some better checkpoint placement, Don't make them far too long
I see text editing as the best way to make a good level, but if people can't even make good levels with the normal tools I just can't even mention it lol. About the checkpoints, I totally agree! There are a lot of levels with unfair or cheap death places, and then make you try again from the start. Levels like that just make me want to quit playing it, honestly.
I really like your videos! It gave me some great tips for Mega Man Maker, and I can't wait to start posting videos on this game myself! Your humor and editing were incredible. I can't believe you only have 398 subs. Glad to be number 399.
Thank you very much Lemmy! I'm really glad you enjoyed my video! As you have noticed I am not making many videos now, but I might still upload a video from time to time.
this video is very well made and informative! the level palette idea seems very helpful.
i just found your channel and im defintely going to subscribe!
Thank you so much! I hope this video helps you make amazing levels ;)
U really saved me, my levels was too bad, like it's short, and with ur video i can do it
I subbed :D
Already kinda decent at building levels but I still felt I could improve.
Great advice man.
Thanks! Go make some amazing levels! ;)
thank you.
i will take the information from this video to improve my level design
Great! Go and make awesome levels!
as someone very slowly starting to dabble in mega man maker this is SUCH a helpful guide, thank you for making it!
I'm glad you enjoyed and found helpful my video. Have fun making levels!
These are some great tips! I've been working on a Metroidvania level for a little while and I'm definitely using the palette room idea from now on. That'll make things so much easier and, more importantly, consistent.
Awesome! Good luck with the level.
Wow! Thank you very much for your careful explanation and subtitles, great!👏😍👍
As a person who likes to make weird levels, I may not follow these rules. Lol
But I often follow a principle: the level must be reasonable😉
I also like to make gimmicky or interesting levels. Is fun to experiment with mega maker lol. Thanks for enjoying the video!
I started work on a gimmick level revolving around magnets and this has helped a ton for the design. It’s nowhere close to done, but I’m really happy with where it’s going.
Sounds great! Good luck with the level.
@@GameFeverOnline I’ve uploaded a WIP of the level, if you wanna try it out the ID is 536429. There are already a few things I’m working on improving. If you end up playing it, please let me know what you think!
amazing humor, advice, and content. thanks
Thank you! Is great you enjoyed!
@@GameFeverOnlineI don't really make "bad" levels. I just really want to get good and this stuff is amusing
This is pretty impressive. I know it's old but this video is helpful. Especially since I've been struggling to think of a couple robot master stages of my own.
Glad you liked it!
Nice tutorial. Thumbs up for that and good job!
Thanks a lot!
I do not know if you have said that you do not put enemies at the beginning or at the control points of the level these places should be so that the player can rest and feel prepared for the next challenge
I totally agree with this.
Thank you so much i need this because i just recently got mega man maker
You're welcome! Go make some awesome levels!
a big service to the comunity! And very good editing! Good job bro! Stay Epic!
Thank you so much!
4:06 i've played this level but still don't know how to get that life? 🤔
With the electric weapon you need to spam it like you would with the shine, allowing you to slow your fall.
Thanks for your info!
I've always wanted to do a Mega Man remake where he takes on 80's musicians.
Great idea! Good luck with that.
Super cool video!
Thanks!
Thanks, Tim!
I'm making a level pack and I make them good, but I could do better thanks for you're help :)
Happy to help!
@@GameFeverOnline Tim but "The Room Of Thingies" is used for getting the items for the level easier instead of getting them in their catalog? I don't know this beacause I use that room for copying that specific thing.
@@vincenzoesposito6176 Yep! Also, for keeping track of the things in the level.
Thanks for The tips👍🏻
Hi gfo!
Im remaking cyber shadow stage 1!
My stage will likely be ready by next week!
Cyber shadow is a traditional 11 stage ps4 game, you get more upgrades on further levels, you can also go back to earlier levels, for more stuff
And its music is ABSOLUTE BAGER ALL THE WAY AROUND
Neat! What music did you choose?
He chose Mega Man 11 Wily's Castle as the BGM on the Mega Man Maker server. For our channel we went with "Journey to Silius / Stage 3".
Wow, that is an awesome video. It helps me a lot.
Thank you so much!
Nice tips about to be a better level creator. I have one question about the tileset "room": Can you actually "grab" (copy) tiles and enemies from there without going to the menu? If yes what key/button does this? Or is this tileset room just for a reminder for yourself?
If I'm not mistaken you can add tiles (and maybe enemies) to the favorites part and access it by pressing Tab. You can also press Shift-Tab to access the recents menu. Sorry for the late reply..
Nice stuff!
Hacer niveles es como hacer un pastel. Ninguno lleva cilantro.
Thank you!
Ese es un refrán que nunca había escuchado. 😄
Well edited!
Also thank you for using Roll’s adventure intro for an example 😉
Thank you very much!
I believe I will improve after using your skills, because I am making a game
I'm glad you think so. Good luck with the game!
I use the room of thingies when I build levels even before I watched this
10/10
Well done! Thanks for the rating btw!
looks nice, guess i have no choice but to share the video
Thank you!
Forgot the surprise elenent
Not really! Surprising the player with unknown dangers and expecting them to have fun is not what I would call good level design.
@@GameFeverOnline but surpise elements make ur game better if u don't kill them 4 fun
@@Getagirlfriend-y4e A troll doesn't always have to kill the player (especially if you're going to make a fair level). A good example of a harmless surprise element is in Wily Stage 2 in Mega Man 4. There's a part where there's two ladders to go up, and if you pick the wrong ladder, there's a buzz saw enemy and no way up. Though, you can just climb back down; you'll only get hit by the buzz saw enemy if you're not paying attention.
@@Plide mega man 4 might be the 3rd best.
@@Getagirlfriend-y4e Honestly? 4 might be my favorite. It has it's fair share of awkward jumps and spike placements, but it more than makes up for those with my favorite arsenal of Robot Master weapons, and great Robot Masters themselves. The Cossack stages are among my favorites as well, all being pretty creative.
me: I do a level in mega man maker
others: made a perfect level
me: (envyingly)
Relatable lol. Hopefully this video helps!
good video
what is the id of the level in the description there is no id it only says id wattery watts
The ID is in the description, but here it is 516385 ;)
1:28 how did you do that
Using the eyedropper? You just need to press and hold alt.
Thank you!
So i downloaded the game on my phone....how do i play it? I unpacked the zip file and now im left with the games files
This game doesn't work on phones, sadly.
@@GameFeverOnline ight
Yay good level!
Good levels for the win lol
I feel like you could explain things a lot better, you kinda gloss over stuff like enemy variety without talking about the important information. You can make a level with 3, 5, or even 8 enemies you just need to let people know HOW to use their enemies and make them all leave an impression on the player
Yes, you are right. You could design a perfect level, but if the player doesn't know how you wanted your level to be played then the level starts to get frustrating, confusing, or even unfair.
@@GameFeverOnline Not really what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that you could elaborate on things better, like on how to introduce enemy types and different challenges instead of just how many you 'need' giving recommendations are great but you need good examples.
How do you delete assets in the editor
I think it is the right mouse button
@@GameFeverOnline thx man
Gfo: try not to make stuff too hard, and try to visualise how you would play it from first play
Furiousmaximum: *HAHA THIS EASY GONNA ADD 1 BLOCK SLIDE HEADBUMP JUMP WITH MEGA SPIKES AND PUT RED BEAMS ALL AROUND WOW THIS IS TOO EASY NOW QUINTUPLE NADO JUMP SPIKE PIT BLAST WHILE FIGHT BOSS WOW TOO EASY I MAKE RAIN WITH 8 BLOCK JUMP AND A NO JUMP PART HAHAHAHA TOO EASY I MAKE 32 WIND JUMP PLUS 32 MEGABALL JUMP WITH 4 DASH JUMP AND WHEEL CUTTER WALL AND THEN CLEAR BOSS WITHOUT TOUCHING GROUND HAHAHAHAH, WOW TO EASY I MAKE 10 CUTMAN WITH PROTOSHIELD AND 10 ICEMAN NEXT ROOM WITH PROTOSHIELD THEN MAGNET CIELING PLUS BASS DOUBLE JUMP TOO EASY I MAKE QUICKMAN BOSS*
oh crap too hard
Nah, that's just a bit tough lol. >:)
...yea, his gimmick where you have to fall through 1-block wide spaces between spikes, or "head-bump" jumps gives me headaches.
haha I'm going to make a clip with what sparkman is boring in my opinion it's fun to fight in my opinion it's a little hard to fight I find sparkman funny
Normally sparkman is easy, but more specifically predictible.
Haha! I think SparkMan is just that his actions are too slow and the damage he causes to players is generally not high. But in fact, SparkMan's plasticity is very high, because he has a spread attack and a charging attack that will target the player, which allows him to make many different modifications, and it will not be too far.
Tbh haven't played Mega Man Maker for a long time hehe
Same! I'm sure 1.8 will change that ;)
@@GameFeverOnline yeah
Then play it
I just wanna play the game♥️
I have no computer!!!
You are missing out, this game is really fun.
IKR
😢 😭 💀 ☠️
My Is A Water Type Level So I Have 7 Water And Blue Enemys
Just give me a fair challenge, it will be good.
Mega
1.8
You sound like gru
I can't play this game anymore because apparently there are hackers in this game that messed with my Wi-Fi so my mom says I can play it any more.
Geee
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