The FALL of OpTic Gaming
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- Опубліковано 7 січ 2025
- OpTic Gaming was once a humble group of gamers that didn’t have major backing, no vast capital from venture capital firms, nor a well-equipped team of professionals running the show -
Instead, it used sponsorship money to pay its players and personalities, to fund its expansion into other titles, and to create compelling videos. It was simply a group of guys who enjoyed competing at video games and creating content.
Spearheaded by Hector “H3CZ” Rodriguez, #OpTicGaming found itself at the forefront of gaming content on UA-cam and a major figure in #esports through Call of Duty. Over the years, it acted as an internet celebrity factory, spawning a number of #gaming superstars such as Matthew “Nadeshot” Hague, Ian "Crimsix" Porter and Seth “Scump” Abner.
Before it received major backing, the only competition that the organisation had was in FaZe Clan and that too was because of a well-crafted blend of excelling in both content and competition. However, once Neil Leibman, Co-owner of Texas Rangers invested in November 2017, things changed drastically.
Moving away from shared houses that acted as both a living quarters and hotbed of content in Chicago, H3CZ and his army of online celebrities jumped ship to Frisco, Texas to begin the next chapter in OpTic Gaming’s story.
What transpired over the next 18 months, however, may have cut the legendary brand’s legacy short and resulted in its degradation and potential demise. But how this did all happen, and so soon?
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hecz needs to get investors and start over. Take the cod team and content creators and rebuild. Hecz has a loyal following.
wont be as hard hopefully the second time around hecz is well connected now and people know who he is and what he brings to the table. its actually very exciting to think about.
Hector Santos this is true but the business related issues are the tough part. In theory this sounds great but with moving to build another org comes contract related issues with Optic and Buyouts and such
Matt Chartrand i agree with you 100%
Near impossible to start again. He should join 100thieves
@@Josh-db4lw And that right there is a dumb comment. Green Wall
Optic fans stand with Hecz, not immortals, he leaves, we go with.
Absolute facts
+1
GREENWALL baby!!
Cringe
False. Everything that has happened in the last 18 months is solely on the shoulders of Hector
OpTic wasn’t founded on it being a business, it folded into that. But it’s foundation was a family, people that didn’t see it as a family but a cash cow made it die.
Facts, same with Faze.
pretty much no need to finish watching the vid now
Loki AEsir Faze isn’t dead 😂
so basically optic went corporate and corporate's decisions were out of touch and tanked the brand...not something that is uncommon
justice league type beat
Drop the halo team but signed some egirl streamers I’m dead
Clint.Beastwood brush ikr
I didn’t even know that happen smh, I was so out of the loop of how fucked everything was since they moved to Frisco
Clint.Beastwood that was jays doing dumb nigguh
Honestly it feels almost like they were trying to pull a Harvey Weinstein
It's a buisness egirl streamers make money halo didn't
sad to see 100T making all the moves OpTic should have made 😓
Yea man , but already we have Matt running 100 thieves, and will probably most likely wont make the mistakes hecz made
Alex Stafford What are those moves?
David Jimenez he’s still has a long way to go man you never know what might happen
Jorge Rivas pretty much just not giving up control of your company to someone you really don’t know? Idk I don’t know all the details but I find it hard to believe Hecz couldn’t have got an investment while also retaining control of Optic. I just don’t know what you would expect to happen if you give up control of your company
Funny thing is nadeshot predicted this.
Anyway we can get J edited out of the thumbnail? Or at least edited with a big red X over his face
Wilson Conley I second this, or maybe just put *FAWK* over his face
That's a fair request, but every story needs a villain ...
DEXERTO oof 🔥 that be true
Or in 2019 have a dummy in the middle of each map that has a picture of J in it just so everyone can shoot it and get some gratification in getting to put a few bullets in him for all the screw ups.
Well I see why nadeshot left....damn. I remember back in 2012-2015 when you would catch a tournament stream and it be like faze vs nv and it would only have 20,000 viewers but then when it was optic vs any team the views would jump to over 100,000. There would be thousands of people screaming optic and filling up the entire stadium, now it feels like no one cares about the tournaments and just want optic to stay alive as a team all together.
I know back in 2013 playing bo2 league of the champions and everybody know scump and nadeshot i miss this time so much 😔😣😢😭
Same 🙁
@@strelets534 good times bro good times.
Paunger8 bo2 was the goat. I miss being 15 lol
@@goldenbear4 me to
Paunger8 fuuuuck Ik this shit literally makes me sad didn’t even know all this shit happen just remember the og days
100T Is the new optic but with bigger moves
They're deadass everything I wish optic would've become
Disagree, it’s hard to recreate what OpTic did you get the years
*over the years
100T is in like 3 esports they’re definitely no where near what optic was
Chancepants doesn’t change the fact that optics accomplished more?
J destroyed in 1 year and a half what took Hecz 10 to build
I don't get what J did, I thought it was the ' Corporate ' people who fucked OpTic ?
The fall of optic was when Hex decided to get a League Team. He had to sell some of the team to make money to get an LCS spot. Should have just pulled a nadeshot and found investors. He should have also crowed funded some money to make improvements on the team.
It wasn’t his choice to get that team it was infinite
You realize to get investors you must sell a portion of the company to them? They don't invest money into the company for nothing
@@Cinamaticz not always true. He also sold 51 percent which lost him majority ownership. He essentially Partnered with them instead of selling portions like Nade did with 100t
Why couldn't hecs just be happy with cod and optic yeah that's right the bitch is worse then optic j so full of shit he expanded so he could be more rich if he only cared for family he would of been happy with how wealthy cod made him not want more selfish fuck got greedy and it backfired now he trying to put the blame on others lol none of u are greenwall or family your just $$$$ and now he's happy living in his million dollar house hope it was worth it hecs the thing you helped create sold for your greed couldn't be happy with just cod yeah u might not be as rich but u would have your soul its so happy seeing all u dumbasses side with him shouting greenwall he don't give a fuck its all $$$$ he just trying to save face now sheep.
Sad... not an optic die hard fan... but you got to respect what they have done.
formal and karma are my fav 2 players in that order.
formal fucking god in cod bo2 and aw i remember
edit: he even came from halo thats the most impressive part
VenomCold best ar aim
they will be bACK!
And Optic Midnight just left optic. She'd been with them for over 10 years.
Exactly, and why I have said it wouldn't surprise me if Scump and others leave too from what Midnite has said they have no clue what to do with OpTic now. Amanda has said the same thing, They bought OpTic and they are just all over the map with what direction OpTic should go and have no direction. Scump (Seth) and several others made it very clear they are not happy with the move and I suspect if their contracts expire they will go elsewhere.
Spratt is gone as well
rob coffman i don’t even see why they are still a team. I remember last year, big tymer, mboze, flame, etc were all supposed to meet up and only big t showed up and then after that no one post videos.... it just died
@@theredfishkid Yeah the unity isn't there anymore, lets face it the OpTic brand was comprised of something called unity and they worked well together, if they didn't they didn't stay in OpTic long and that is fading you can tell they aren't working as well as a team, proof of that is they the 3rd place finish behind 100T and people might say that's luck etc but it shows 100T are learning to work with not against each other.
And now weve lost bigtymer. Optic is no longer optic.
Selling majority of optic was what caused all of this
This helped Optic in all honesty, just not in the way the fans and people wanted
yes he had to do that . did you not see his video explaining why he did that ? he had financing issues with the players contracts so he had to get investors
isaacfullz no one is saying he shouldn’t have got investors, people are just saying he shouldn’t have given up majority control, or maybe chose his investors a little more wisely, hindsight is always 20/20 though i guess
I doubt he had much options when it came to investors. Think about it with how much things can change in so little time. The gaming world/content creators is anything but steady you can get major growth or loss in days
They made alot of promises for optic, hecz did what he thought was right to take optic to the next level unfortunately sounds like Jay fucked them over, it's a shame man
H3CZ needs to leave.. take all the cod players and content creators with him and start a new brand
DarknessGG someone said old guard! I kinda like it!
Optic J will have a team with no fans & no players! Hecz wins in the end because everyone follows him!
you mean J..
Optic in gears won 7 tournaments in a row most dominant team there is and straight up dropped them
Scump: OpticJ tryed to thanos snap us.
Crim: he really did
me: ahahahahsdkjafkjdfkj
Was out of the gaming scene for about 3 years and I comeback to this? Life's a trip
As soon as they moved out of the chicago house everything went downhill
Danny Moyseh facts man, I wished they would’ve stayed there.
Everytime i see mboze, I remember how useless he is lol
Lmao fr tho
September 19 smells like cheese
I’m sure he’s good for hugs! 😂
And probably a fun drinking buddy.
Lol I died laughing
not as useless as your uploads 😂"My dad snoring" dhahahahahahaha what a fuckin loser...... your dad i mean hahahaha
Optic Predator was the real OG!
Hell yeah!
Derek Bailey
I member thos
I live in Frisco and when i heard they moved here i was like nah theres no way.. and thennn i saw Crims baby blue porsche in my neighborhood, crazy scenes
how far is that fron saginaw
GTgaming I didn’t know these players made that kind of money. Pretty crazy
@@JRCxyz not all players can be crimsix or nadeshot lol
yo same bro! haha
Never wanted this video to come. But I mean after being in the top list of teams for 7+ years it had to end. Everything good must come to an end.
I support my guys. Hector, Seth, Ian, Bruce, TJ, and Damon and sexy man Mathias.
Thats it. My guys. I don't care where they go. I miss the days of them creating game content though outside of streaming.
I’m fine with any teams being dropped as long as the COD team stays untouched, because OpTic pretty much the face of Call of Duty and the COD players are the ones everyone is most attached to. Oh and not to mention my man Hecz the fucking legend.
You really don't get it do you? You might as well say goodbye to the Old OG because it's pretty much guaranteed, Scump, Crim etc will find new teams soon as their contracts are up and go elsewhere. They have all said in their own way they got fucked in that Immortal deal.
Lets hope nadeshot doesnt make the same mistakes
I miss the old days but im happy the scene is expanding
Tyler Moral how the fuck is expanding if they just released everyone? Lmao
COD ESports is not growing. 65k on a major final is sad.
@@bodiddy5057 LOL IKR
@@bodiddy5057 OWL Gets more views on a regular match lol the finals get over 100k easily
@@jasonperea2135 Rocket League gets 200k in major finals lmao. Cod is dead.
The issue is that the business side of things will forever end in a clash with creative and loyalty based choices because the business is about money and money only. Nothing to do with the players, loyal fanbases and creative decisions, just money.
Unfortunate fact
Agreed.... This happen when you take the purity of the main source of how everything good started.
I remember when optic moved from Illinois to Texas and at the time, was thinking maybe this is a good move for everyone. As soon as everyone arrived in Dallas it was a total disaster. I remember people BASHING Hector calling him a sellout and all that nonsense, I don’t think he had the intentions to ruin his dream. He had no idea any of this was gonna happen, which makes me feel bad for him the most.
As an optic fan, i am sad to say that there will be no come back, some of the COD icons are getting old for competing, plus you add nadeshot taking over with 100T who seems unstopable. OG has the most incredible story to tell but the world goes fast and hecz himself has passed his limits. Young nade has created the next OG in his own manner, dodging all the bad moves OG made, the contents are now better, the company grows fast, the players win competitions, the hype is high for 100T, and it crushes even more OG i am afraid... i cannot imagine OG coming back sorry, with all the love and respect i have for OG, magic can t happend twice.
I knew 100t was gonna be big from the get go
Hecz just left OpTic :/ and it's reasonable, ever since OpTic moved to texas, and left Chicago OpTic house, it became a downfall for OpTic brand, too bad it all turned out like that. I loved OpTic Gaming, but I love Green Wall more, Hecz, BigT, Hitch, Mboze, Maniac, Scumpy, Crim, Karma, I watched them daily, never missed a single upload of Hecz and BigT untill the texas moving, the vibe changed, I had no time to follow things anymore.. Big corporations Don't care for fanbase, they just wanted the brand, and that ruined OpTic, hope they realize that soon..
End of an era honestly. Every team will be compared to the Nade and scump years they played. I still can’t imagine the damage that would have been done if Nadeshot stayed on bo3 with crimsix, scump, and formal
I mean the replacing of nadeshot led to one of the most dominant esports rosters of all time, but no one knows what could of happened if nadeshot stayed it could of been better or it could of been worse we will never know
Zack Smith I was assuming all players played at peak performance
The modern warfare three team was by far better than nades team
@@joshtradamus3921 so why did rambo get dropped for nade?
Zack Smith marketing
As far as winning tournaments, the Gears of War team was there most successful team
@@MillyVoe52 Fuck you leather man!
Wherever hecz goes I’ll follow and so well the real og fans hecz has so much love for the team it’s not just players for him it’s family #GREENWALL
Welcome back OpTic... We’ve missed you
Never imagine this video to come 🤧 end of a legendary era
I thought optic was like the biggest name in gaming lol. Faze took over
Austin Dick nah 100T to take the throne. RUNITUP
Well optic was... Then faze was... Now 100t are
@@tori9365 How is 100t the best, faze is better in every single way
Have been following Optic for some years now, since the 6050 days actually. They were by far my favorite content creators and competitors for CoD and I was even cheering for the CS team aswell. It saddens me to see this happen, but everything good has to come to an end I guess ?
Optic should have never expanded to get a CSGO team from India, not because Forsaken got caught cheating, but just because it didn’t make much sense. Should’ve invested more into a much more stable roster than the Danish one they had and the Indian one.
Just saw the video of Ashley (Midnite) leaving OpTic and I have to wonder how many more will follow since it sounds as if the changes that are being made are completely poor decisions that are just screwing the brand copletely.
is that the Crown The Empire Logo at 6:41?
think so, there was a montage along time ago with glass elevator in it
I don’t like what J is doing. Hecz should maneuver around it and get majority share. Or make his own team
Hecx HD you can’t maneuver things to get majority share. He gave that up. That’s on him.
BigTymer just left as well rip Optic
I actually liked the optic of 2017. When they all moved to the same city and reunited i was super excited. Now theyre all gone :’(
We back
Once Optic has dropped the entire sniper roster, I already felt a downfall coming
Sadly All Good Things Must Come To An End 😢
This is only going to end badly man and it’s gonna hurt like hell when it does.
Been following Optic since I was a child, and may I say I cannot believe this. Truth is hecz needs to leave and remake his own team and now that modern warfare is releasing maybe he really should. It would bring back a lot of old followers and I am sure it would even re-expand the esports scene of call of duty... into what it used to be.
Pretty sad how the most dominant team ever in gears of war scene, they are now with NRG :(((
and now hecz is co-ceo of nrg
I feel if H3cz gets optic back it wouldn’t be over night but he can put it back together
Wait isn’t it funny that courage jd and nade shot were in optic and now they are in 100Theives
the recent past of optic is absolutely disastrous and its kind of heart breaking
Super well done video man. I didn’t know half of this shit. Thank you
Crazy to think optic and faze used to be seen as the biggest clans, imagine if optic kept there game up and were still as big as faze..
The rise of optic gaming would of a good video to make first
Whats crazy - if the esports bubble pops, hecz will be seen as a genius for taking the deal he did at the time. He might end up being one of the few to actually profit off of the crazy push of money recently.
Yes only if
Anyone else feel like we are watching the end of optic call of duty this year? It’s sad to see
Lesson of the day...
When you create something organic/authentic/loved by fans, stay in touch with your demographic. I personally wouldn't say partnering with or signing with a bigger entity is always the bad move, it only becomes a trash once youre not tuned in to what's going on. To this moment I remember the great days back when I was a lil nutsack on the PS3 being a Stan for Optic and hating on Faze supporters lmao crazy how years after (now) i come across this video wondering how Optic is doing, shits CHANGED YO
Standard corps taking over things we love and ruining them into the ground.
I remember optic when they use to play headquarters on cod 4 back in 2009
Still gonna proudly rep my OpTic Jacket long after they are gone. They have been such a huge part of my life for so many years, it really feels like I grew up with them and it’s real shame to see where they are now...also can we just take a short break from all the feels and get a FUCK J in the chat!
Hecz went to NRG, isn't that right?
Just stumbled over this video again. I'm working in an international advertisement agency and with all the knowledge gathered in the last few months, through the agency and school, it's just sad, how mismanaged the brand of optic gaming was.
AYou just took the whole family vibe, the "we stand together through tough times" and threw it out the window. Optic going international, with its teams, didn't make any sense at all. It goes against everything, what optic was build up to be.
Just sad to see
Moral of the story... never sell something you created!
you cant blame the guy for wanting to step back so he can spend time with his family, old men etc.
:( they gotta win champs man. Do it for Hector, content team, gears team, halo team, and greenwall. They played so bad in this event. They just gotta redeem themselves in win the big one cause man was this year the worst in terms of OpTic. I believe in them because what they showed this event wasn't them at all. I'm pretty sure the bootcamp really decreased their play style. They just gotta grind these two weeks because I think this champs anyone has a big shot at winning it.
They are at most may get top 4 , i want them or faze to win but it's almost impossible for both with how strong gen g and e United are
Yeah true but I just think OpTic needs to reset for these few weeks and play as a team. For this game, teamwork and teamshooting is key, you can't ego chall at all. They just gotta get it together cause I would at least see them go off in on a good note for this story cause boy OpTic is like a shonen anime.
@@hellogoodbye3678 fuck hector the bitch sold out and killed optic gaming, hecz immortal, infinite and bad investor and J are all to blame equally
@@thawilly5271 no you really can't blame them all equally. We all know how much hecz cares about this team. The others don't compare. Hecz would do anything to make sure nothing happened.
@@flowscs6835 riddle me this, why is it that hecz was the only one that won then??? but the fans and the content creators for optic and the esports teams got all fucked??? hecz cared about the team?!?!?! really
Always be careful taking someone else's money.
WHOS HERE AFTER HECS BOUGHT OPTIC GAMING BACK????
Together we stand, together we fall, together we are the greenwall.
Immortals dropped the CSGO team because you are not allowed to own 2 csgo teams and they already own MiBR...
It’s been a ride as an optic fan... but now it’s Tox Szn 😈
Don't even follow Optic or any of the games they compete in but holy shit those are some obviously stupid moves. Just immediately sign a bunch of people no one has heard of but then don't promote them? The fact that dropping the cod team was ever even a thought much less seriously considered is insane, it's the only reason I even knew this org.
This is why you don't sell out kids. All that money may seem great but the man wants a return on his investment only and cares about nothing else. Be happy with your success. If you do need outside help make sure you keep controll of your work.
What happened to OpTic Nation?
Join 100 thieves and create a second branch team like optic did with the 2 optic and optic gaming teams
Without the gears team optic will fall they are the most dominant esports team ever 17 of 19 championships there is no other team that good so it's over for optic
Woah, woah woah, slow down. During the WW2 season they didn't win a major. They won a major during the Black Ops 4 season, in December. They are going through a very rough patch right now. Despite having a team that on paper, should be destroying. Now this rough patch seems to be lasting a particularly long time. However, they are still a force to be reckoned with and in all honesty, all teams will be hit next year due to franchising, which will be interesting to see. Only then might we begin to see what could be described as a fall. But right now, it's premature. I will watch and enjoy the video nonetheless; as always it's likely that the Dexerto team will have something of interest to say, as is usually the case.
Just accept its over bitch u in denial.
Optic Gaming started as a fun little sniping clan that did gameplay comms & montages but sadly it has turned into a "pro" gaming clan that doesn't really care about having fun anymore. People are leaving or getting dropped, Optic Gaming needs to be reformed.
Hecz took on bad investors plain and simple. Fault is irrelevant the brand is dead and will slowly wash away with time. Sad day to be an OpTic fan and growing up being a fan of the team its really sad to see something die that means so much.
Hecs sold out along with his soul he got rich but his decision backfired now he trying to save face cods a joke its times over its battle royales now no one want boring cod.
Did anyone else notice the crown the empire logo at 6:40? Haha so random but that’s my favorite band
Truth is thaf most people are Nieve is that it's all to do with the energy hecz put into it. Once gone the win vibe also left. It's to late bow it's gone.
Just saying the only reason why i would join optic would be because hecz watching him for years growing optic from the beginning was such an inspiration
Sad that it all came crumbling down. #HailHuntsmen
Sad to see this😥
They didn’t hop on the fortnite train...biggest mistake in history. Imagine and Optic with Ghost, Faze and 100 thieves
Hecz And Hitch need to bounce from optic Start a fresh Up until the big orgs came in they were running it.. Hitch knows the scene Hecz Is the scene They have the following alone to be bigger and better than optic.. Optic Is just a name, Always was With the changes to the leagues they days are gone anyway. "Optic" Was a family. Time to divorce and be happy again!
How Ryan Musselman betrayed and ruined optic gaming*
i'd like to see hecz get some sort of investors to buy back OpTic however, i have a feeling he might be trying to start something new, either way i'm going to follow hecz
optic gaming? thats a name I havent seen in years
This honesty is sad for the optic brand optic j completely betrayed what optic is and was and like the green wall said Hecz is optic
DTGxZEUS when you take on the wrong kind of investors, you really don’t have a choice. Optic was built with Hecz as the boss but now he has bosses and all they care about is what makes money
And now the Rise of Optic begins
Surprised that fans continue to support Hecz, he's the reason this all happened in the first place.
Trevor Vaubel right? He tried to pull a nadeshot and take on investors from a sports team and ended up selling his shares to some greedy mfs
Seth, Hecz n Formal all in Chicago Huntsman now owned by Hecz...they’re all doing fine n I’m happy for em.
Its kids , youtube ,and video games . It was destined to fail .
@B00fpack ' first off you dont know what I make. Secondly you dont know what they make after expenses and what their life is like at the moment. I was talking optic gaming in general. Not about the money they make .
@B00fpack ' well I said "it" was destined to fail ,not "they" . Look at the title and look at my comment and read before you type some "shit"
Funny I'm sure you view money as the end all be all in success. People can project their mindset to any comment . I've been guilty of it as well . No worries. Stay positive and count your own money :)
Wow. Great video. I don't follow this type of stuff. I happened across this video cuz I follow and watch Optic Midnite and she recently posted she's out of Optic Gaming now. Glad I saw this. I do remember some of the announcements of this stuff. This is both really interesting and very sad.
9:15 I understand not getting along but threatening to drop your whole cod roster is absolutely ridiculous lol
Optic will always have its loyal fans. If scump leaves I’m out
I’m super sad about optic rn and I’ll always support hecz but if OG cod dies then Pro cod dies
Literally watching this video makes me tear up so much. I'm just hoping they win champs so we can end on a high note :(.......
Unlikely, but that would be nice.
I believe in that they could win champs. There's too much talent in that team. Every team in the bootcamp placed higher than OpTic. FaZe did say that OpTic was playing insane during the boot camp. I'm just thinking it's more of a confidence issue and themselves. They just gotta regain and believe in each other that they could win a tournament again. I have the up most respect for those players. They've been through so much shit and turmoil. It would be a great way to end the story of OpTic on a high note.
@@TOMMYLULU Same, Optic is my favorite team however they have to step it up. It was so disappointing how I was looking forward to miami expecting Optic to kill it, just to watch them not win a map. Honestly killed my week. They need to start turnin up for champs cuz Optic won't be the same next year.
It killed my vibe too man. Like the shit and stress this OpTic lineup has is insane. I really do think its a mental block that's preventing them to do well. They played well in the bootcamp, like the break off against LG was so dominate but once they lose the lead it felt that they couldn't regain. They just gotta take a deep breath, relax, and believe in each other. They have the talent to win and this year's champs there is no favorite. Literally every one can win it.