Why you can't just "find" Flint / Chert.
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- Опубліковано 1 бер 2023
- If you live in the PNW or West Coast (Washington, Idaho, Montana, California, Oregon, Utah or British Columbia)
The Northeast or simply East Coast (New York, Virginia, Maine, Vermont, Connecticut, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina etc.)
You may find a lot of videos online, talking about how easy it is to find Flint / Chert and shots of them picking it up off the ground or at railroad tracks, in rivers and road cuts.
I'm here to tell you why that's bogus and why some people are lucky, and others are not and go in depth into exactly what happened to your state and why your local flintknapper scorn at the prices of ordering knappable rock online wondering why they can't do the same as others in Texas, The UK, and other generously loaded flint areas. - Розваги
It's hard to listen to most people. They try and get you excited by talking louder or trying to sell facts while building the story.
I think your delivery is natural and easy to sit with for a stretch of time and actually learning.
Thank you for the content and the cool demeanor.
That was a very nice comment thank you
It's quite all over the place here in western Colorado. I have found entire hillsides of the stuff.
Western Montana is closest to the PNW and has some! So long as you're east of the rockies... or below Wyoming.
@@MountainJohn Back in the late 80's nearly everyone I knew around here had driveways full of the stuff. Not at all difficult to find. I would find entire valleys of flakes and shards while searching for good fishing streams. Unfortunately, much of that land now has been sold and developed and is now private. I was always on the lookout for obsidian and flint and frequently found piles that looked like someone had spent days making arrowheads and spearpoints. Later my father confessed to making trashcans full of knapped arrowheads and such. He would seed his creations and take his old college buddies out arrowhead hunting. He once told me that IF someone claimed to have found real arrowheads in certain places, likely they had found his counterfeits...
@@KandaJE I have done the same thing hahaha. Its like stocking trout!
I'm on the western slope too. I find a ton around the farms, farmers chuck the slabs to the side when they till them up, some keep them but most don't mind if you grab a few.
As an Idaho flint Knapping thank you for telling the world our pains
My condolences sir.
Most informative video I
have seen about where to find chert and what it is
I just learned a ton n i want 2 thank you much much !!! B well from central virginia .
We did have massive repeated ice age floods through the PNW so there are some odd random deposits/distributions.
I've often wondered whats buried under all that lava in eastern or and wa.....gold and ancient river systems!
Regarding the NE U.S.A. didn't that used to be a massive mountain range like the alps? Back when the Atlantic was narrower and Scottland/U.K. was much closer to America.
Yes, actually it was an island covered in jungle like forests of massive horsetail during the carboniferous era, which is the reason there is anthracite coal there
Great video,thanks for your understanding
Thanks for watching!
There are several parks in OKC that have arrowheads poking out of the banks. People don’t even know it
Excellent vid, just what we needed to clarify what/where/why we're out there trying to do. Lol I knew about the required hardness of 5.5 to 6 but had no idea chert was sedimentary. I always wondered why they found so much in Great Britain!
Chert is technically metamorphic but yes formed as sediment before undergoing heat treating from the earth and pressure. Thank you for watching!
In the central area of Minnesota we do get chert on occasion, but it’s so scrappy it’s best for only a few okayish flakes, it’s better to use basalt. Tougher material to work with but is far more abundant and can be of better quality.
Excellent video
There is a place near where I live where natives worked flint. They find the chippings left over from it and arrowheads. The sight is a preserved place on a reservation in Oklahoma. The same flint can be found in outcroppings along the same river downstream. It still takes a good rockhound to spot it.
I live outside of San Antonio, and I found lots of pieces Flakes and some arrowheads, but broken by the creek I didn’t really know what it was and now I know what it is. Thank you for this teaching.
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Great video.I live in north Idaho and I agree with your theory cause we have sedimentary rocks and igneous basalt.
There is actually some chert near the salmon river in idaho but its really nasty stuff. West Montana has some porcellanite and other flints near Helena and slightly east of butte.
excellent video
Well done.
I got pics from claim in California. It's a big state and has mountains that uplifted. That are really old and have chert, flint, quartz, chalcedony, jasper, and even obsidian.
Very helpful, Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Here in Joplin we have the outcropping of the Earth's crust in the form of the largest chert formation ocurring in a natural glade in North America, so its easy to find here. Come and get it, just move the pure lead nuggets out of the way!
Thank you for your video. I have been surprised to find how rare Flint and Chert are in the Pacific NW. In Washington State, Skagit and Whatcom Counties have unusual exposures of Geological Units, the Oldest which can be viewed. Ross Lake has a source of Chert, long worked. The Twin Sisters, are Mountains made of Olivine! Though not ideal, tools were made from it. Have never seen that mentioned.
Great video. Here in Michigan we find some hard stuff mixed in with limestone . But the grain goes every which way most of the time. Is this chert or not ?
thanks do fossil hunting rock hounding and artifact hunting did not know that was how it was formed thats awesome
Sweet. Glad I could help :)
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Thank you Zubmit :)
We do have some of the most abundant knapping quality jasper and agate. We even have the oldest known agate mine in the world (polkadot mine) I've also found hundreds of jasper and agate points in the PNW. I think it was fairly common to use jasper as a replacement for flint and cherts. I know of four main chert areas in the PNW. Port Orford has a black chert that is very similar to monterrey chert in California. We also have a light tan chert that can be found all over the Malheur. Hozomeen chert in Washington along the Canadian border is also good stuff. The Ochochos have a yellowish brown chert as well. Cool video! Happy knapping
You are saying we have some of the most abundant knapping quality jasper and agate. As much as I wish that was the case, it simply is not. There may be a very beautiful abundant source of knappable jasper near canada that might dip into washington or maybe some knappable agate near the columbia river but to say its abundant is an overstatement.
The vast majority of WA, OR and ID are covered in basalt, of which agates seem to not be present in 90+% of said basalt. Then the glacial till covers all else and it nearly never has agates that are larger than a pea or if lucky a peanut. I have found some of these larger agates and they do not knap well, they usually have crystaly quartz inclusions or other impurities. The jasper present in the PNW, on the Western side is very coarse and garbage. The heat treating needed to actually work that jasper is the same temperature of the surface of the sun. Some specific localities may have very nice knappable jasper but they are not everywhere, nor abundant.
If you have hundreds of jasper and agate points you likely like along the Columbia river or central WA / Oregon desert. I strongly invite you to beach walk from astoria to sedro wooley and find maybe 1 point if you're extremely lucky.
I have hunted eureka california, beverly beach oregon, astoria wa, the olympic peninsula, forks, near sedro wooley and hundreds of countless spots, tacoma, seattle, bellevue, olympia, renton, auburn, kent, covington, black diamond, yelm, chehalis and centralia. The only place I ever found flakes and native artifacts was in chehalis and lebam to which I spent years fishing down there, and still, never found an agate arrowhead. The eastern side of WA you can just walk up on the hills near Wenatchee and find them on the ground.
More or less, what I am saying is: The Pacific coast is an arrowhead dead zone and the knappable materials were nearly all traded in because they come from very difficult to reach areas and few areas at that. Compared to any of the midwest, texas or the deep south, its safe to comparatively call our area a dead zone.
@MountainJohn the pnw has more agate and jasper than any other part of North America. I will agree that west of the cascades is a dead zone, but most of the pnw is east of the cascades. I have thousands of pounds of different jasper and agate on hand right now. Biggs, deshutes, Ochocho, Bruneau, piute, painted, polychrome, Montana, polkadot, Mojave, moss, Wildhorse, rockybutte, caldera, cripple creek, Graveyard point, plumes, Carnelian, maury mountain, Owyhee, sunset... the list goes on and on. I've been to all those sites and more, and we are lucky to have as much as we do. Most of it I can even heat treat in a turkey roaster. But some do take heat as high as 600F.
@@tylerdoyle5290 If you can, make a YT video of the stones you have and if you heat treat I imagine you also knap. I, and probably everyone else watching would love to see that video. Exotic material thats workable is always interesting.
Nice still frame of freeze cracked at the beginning of the video...I have met Jerry a few times at different flintknaping events over the years
We have mountains of chert here in Northern California.
We used to find chirt arrowheads all along the Platte River through Nebraska back in the 70s. I had hundreds. I also have some from central Oregon bub . I know where to look, if you buy gas .
How about Florida? As we were also a shallow sea like the great plains.
Florida does have agatized coral and some good knapping materials. Thank you for the comment
Also, I do bonsai and I assume thats what your username means. Very cool. If you live in florida I hope you're taking advantage of that 10 - 12 usda zone :)
Care to explain further what the 'good knapping materials' in Florida are? And, I do practice bonsai-that's cool you do as well. I absolutely take advantage of the climate - I'm in coastal Jax, so 9b i believe. It is warm enough to have tropicals, with some winter care. aka 'the bonsai shuffle' in and out of my enclosed back patio. But, it is temperate enough to be able to keep some of the more northern species. My JMs are barely hanging in there! Thanks for the reply, trade subs?@@MountainJohn
Care to explain Florida's 'good knapping materials' further? And, I practice bonsai yeah-that's cool you do as well. I'm in coastal Jax, so 9b I think. Just warm enough to keep tropicals, and 'cool' enough to keep some temperate species. I'm doing the bonsai shuffle in and out of the porch during cold fronts. But, watering 2-3 times a day during the summer months, my JMs are barely hanging on. Thanks for reply, trade subs?@@MountainJohn
Care to explain Florida's 'good knapping materials' further? And, I practice bonsai yeah-thats cool you do as well. Im in coastal Jax, so 9b I think. Just warm enough to keep tropicals, and 'cool' enough to keep some temperate species. I'm doing the bonsai shuffle in and out of the porch during cold fronts. But, watering 2-3 times a day during the summer months-my JMs are barely hanging on. Thanks for reply, trade subs?@@MountainJohn
do you have any ideas as to kind of knapping quality stone might be in tennesse? i've only done a little bit of looking but all i seem to find is low quality chert with loads of impurity's and freeze cracks. also this video was super helpful. thanks!
Yes, you have Argillite, Frog Mountain Chert, Bangor Chert, Brassfield Chert, Buffalo River Chert, Burlington Chert, Camden Chert, Chickamauga Chert, Chepultepec Chert, Carter's Chert, Clear Creek Chert, Conococheague Chert, Copper Ridge Chert, Crab Orchard Banded Chert and thats just A - C. There are another 50 chert types from C - Z
in Tennessee. Fortunately your state is covered and crawling with chert. If the chert in your local area (one river or one creek) is low quality it means 1 of 2 things.
1. you need to heat treat it.
2. you need to go to another river.
3rd option is to just start hitting every rock you find. The best chert I found was in Texas in Corpus Christi and I went to an actual landscaping area infront of a apartment complex and it was full of guadalupe chert. Beautiful stuff.
Just know tennessee has beautiful chert and great quality stone. You may just need to do some more exploring to find it. A good start is to go on macrostrat.org and type chert in the search bar, select lithology and look at a map of your area that has chert. Another step is to go onto projectilepoints.net and look up lithic materials and then select tennessee. I hope this helped! Keep on knappin.
@@MountainJohn oh my gosh this is super helpful thank you so much, did not know that there is that many kinds of chert in tennessee
I typed in Oregon and found out it's in Kentucky! I've lived here most my life and didn't know that. Thank god I lived long enough to find that out.
Well, you explained everything except the difference between chert and flint!!!
Great chert around Las Vegas
I live on the Monaro in Australia. I got more chert than I can fathom...
Thankyou for sharing...
Conchoidal fracturing is very common here.
Oz Aboriginal sites all over... Do you want stone axes or prehistoric kitchen knives
Trying to work out how it worked...
Don't let any Texans know...
If I put those bad boyz on a fire they exploded with the oil in them...
thank you very much 😄 do you have maps for flint deposits in europe
Use www.macrostrat.org and select lithologies: Flint
Hope that helps!
Hot springs Arkansas is full of chert , novaculite. And flint .
Missouri!
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What about Michigan?
North Iowa and North had glaciers. Much of the rock are to small.
That's one hypothesis 😊
The other hypothesis is that God didn't put flint there because he didnt feel like it. That wouldnt require an entire video so I made this one.
@@MountainJohn 😂😂
i live in ms. i can find all you talked about , i dont belive what you say is right ,
I’ve searched all up the Red River in Western Minnesota and I haven’t been able to find good quality chert. The chert is terrible for Knapping and is very unpredictable for flakes
Yeah, maybe try heat treating brother.