How Did Premier League Teams Get Their Names & Nicknames?

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  • Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
  • The Barclays Premier League, England's (and sometimes hosting a few teams from Wales) top football division. In the 2021/2 season the 17 teams competing are: Arsenal, Aston Villa, Brentford, Brighton, Burnley, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Everton, Leeds United, Leicester City, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Newcastle United, Norwich City, Southampton, Tottenham Hotspur, Watford, West Ham United and Wolverhampton Wanderers. In this video I look at how each team got their name, and their nickname, as well as some fun facts about their crests.
    Send me an email if you'd be interested in doing a collaboration! historywithhilbert@gmail.com
    #PremierLeague #Football #ManCity

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  • @alfredthegreatkingofwessex6838
    @alfredthegreatkingofwessex6838 2 роки тому +2071

    History and football. Can’t have a better combination.

    • @tylerhaddock6999
      @tylerhaddock6999 2 роки тому +21

      Wow! Your still around old-timer?

    • @TwistedAlphonso1
      @TwistedAlphonso1 2 роки тому +7

      Football and Beer. Proper German Beer, not the washed down Brit or American spicy water.

    • @stevefoster5138
      @stevefoster5138 2 роки тому +17

      @@TwistedAlphonso1 I’m an English Brit and I find your comment very racist, if it wasn’t for me identifying as being more English than British then I would sue your arse off, when it was the English between themselves found out how to ferment fruit.

    • @mirkys130
      @mirkys130 2 роки тому +13

      @@stevefoster5138 wut

    • @stevefoster5138
      @stevefoster5138 2 роки тому

      @@mirkys130 wut ???

  • @donCALLAN
    @donCALLAN 2 роки тому +1224

    I'd be interested in a one for the championship as well, a lot of teams in the second division have tonnes of great history as well.

    • @arya6085
      @arya6085 2 роки тому +23

      Even rovers (aka the gas) have a nice story, who just got promoted from the 4th division

    • @thedictationofallah
      @thedictationofallah 2 роки тому +19

      Notts county in the 5th division the first club in football history. And Sunderland a very historic english club

    • @gnaark1181
      @gnaark1181 2 роки тому +17

      Well he did Burnley, Norwich and Watford to be fair

    • @Amcsae
      @Amcsae 2 роки тому +9

      @@thedictationofallah if he goes as far as the 5th division, that'd be amazing! My York City just clawed their way out of the 6th back up to the 5th.

    • @philsoro491
      @philsoro491 2 роки тому +2

      Yea millwall has a wealth of history

  • @mokkaveli
    @mokkaveli 2 роки тому +717

    Wolves aren’t called “The Wolves”, it’s just Wolves, and they’re very rarely ever called their full name of Wolverhampton unless you say Wolverhampton Wanderers

    • @gggggggggggjable
      @gggggggggggjable 2 роки тому +16

      Plus villa was formed in 1874 so that is older than 1877 and he said wolvse are older he talking sh*t

    • @samuelmatthews2553
      @samuelmatthews2553 2 роки тому +12

      Wolves ay we

    • @PaulEcosse
      @PaulEcosse Рік тому +4

      Or if you happen to be singing, "Hi, Ho, Wolver'ampton!". Good lads. Used to run pubs down there.

    • @blackbob3358
      @blackbob3358 Рік тому

      @@gggggggggggjable Good job he did'nt mention Sheffield !

    • @neilbloggs5008
      @neilbloggs5008 Рік тому

      @@gggggggggggjable yes but he spelt wolves right lol

  • @leedsedits927
    @leedsedits927 2 роки тому +264

    Leeds United's nickname used to be the Peacocks but in the 1960's our manager (Don Revie) was very supersticious and he believed birds to be bad luck. He got the club to get rid of the owl on our badge and to change our nickname to the whites. The following year we won our first ever major trophy, the League Cup.

    • @mrttripz3236
      @mrttripz3236 Рік тому +13

      Leeds to nowhere
      🥁badum tss

    • @leonleon765
      @leonleon765 Рік тому +2

      Let's now call it 'The Leeders'.

    • @charliewest1221
      @charliewest1221 Рік тому +2

      Soon my beloved Leeds United is going to be known as the red bull yanks. O' horror upon horrors!!!

    • @andrewsitu3472
      @andrewsitu3472 Рік тому +1

      And the Owl became associated with Wednesday FC from Sheffield.

    • @leedsedits927
      @leedsedits927 Рік тому +4

      @@andrewsitu3472 That’s explains why there in league 1

  • @muhammadHassan-kj1jy
    @muhammadHassan-kj1jy 2 роки тому +343

    Honestly Hilbert, i think you should do more "history in sports" videos. Your style really lends itself to this sort of sub topic

  • @TheInfidel666i
    @TheInfidel666i 2 роки тому +353

    Great Video! However, West ham wasn't called "THOMAS Ironworks FC". The Club was called "THAMES Ironworks FC". As in the river Thames.

    • @durbinmotorworks6253
      @durbinmotorworks6253 2 роки тому +21

      Yeah. What the hell man. It needs to be fixed. You can also see TIW on the hammers to represent the original name.

    • @sanchez-ro6gl
      @sanchez-ro6gl 2 роки тому +18

      Yeah poor research there

    • @sarindersingh9616
      @sarindersingh9616 2 роки тому +7

      Also, no self respecting West Ham fan would call the club the Hammers....either the Irons or The Academy

    • @grumpyoldben
      @grumpyoldben 2 роки тому +11

      Also TIW were ship builders and the hammers on the badge represent the riveting hammers used at that time … nothing to do with ‘mills’ … the dockworkers were Millwall 🙄

    • @gacgeorge
      @gacgeorge 2 роки тому +14

      @@sarindersingh9616 as somebody who's had a second ticket at West ham for the last 7 years, we absolutely do use the hammers and don't use the academy

  • @Grimmy_Grimes
    @Grimmy_Grimes 2 роки тому +152

    I am very surprised that you of all people did not mention the fact that Chelsea have the Tudor Rose on their badge. It's quite interesting actually. Many southern football clubs have the Lancaster rose on their badge, as the south mostly supported the Lancaster claim. And in the North, many clubs, like Sheffield United, have the Withe Rose of York on their badge. In the capital however, being the seat of the victorious regime, the Tudor Rose is common. They used to have three roses actually, to symbolise each of the three houses.

    • @kyledunn8205
      @kyledunn8205 Рік тому +5

      It's only the Yorkshire clubs who have the White Rose of York on their badge, while the North Western (traditionally Lancastrian) clubs - like Blackburn and formerly Burnley - have the Red Rose of Lancaster. Which is where the Tudor Rose comes from, as it was created in the aftermath of the War of the Roses. Which the Lancastrian Tudors won, which is why the Red Rose is the outer of the Tudor Rose. As at that point in the time the ruler wasn't from London - they were Northern - that was just the capital city.

    • @blackbob3358
      @blackbob3358 Рік тому

      @@kyledunn8205 A trifle simplistic, as you (Should) know full well, mush.

    • @peterwhitaker4038
      @peterwhitaker4038 Рік тому +3

      @@kyledunn8205 bit of trivia for you. there's a small village in Lancashire north of Clitheroe called 'Dunsop Bridge'. nothing much there few houses and a garage. but the telephone box by the stream is unique.the glass on outside of said telephone kiosk has a circular frosted diagram of cities all over United Kingdom. when you stand inside phone box a plaque reads..'THIS IS CALCULATED GEOGRAPHICAL CENTRE OF THE UNITED KINGDOM!'

    • @user-ed7et3pb4o
      @user-ed7et3pb4o Рік тому

      Man City has a red rose too

    • @gamingmunky9380
      @gamingmunky9380 Рік тому

      @@user-ed7et3pb4ono one like them

  • @neonjaystones1992
    @neonjaystones1992 Рік тому +52

    West Ham used to be called Thames ironworks not Thomas ironworks, because of the club’s east London heritage rather than because of who our manager was. Another interesting fact about our history comes from the history of our crest. It used to be a picture of a castle with the crossed hammers symbol in either corner and this was to symbolise the fact that the Boleyn ground, or ‘Upton park’ as it was more famously known, was like a fortress. It was then changed to the current crest in 2016 after a move to the London stadium because the old Olympic stadium looked nothing like a fortress

    • @Otakucris
      @Otakucris Рік тому +8

      I actually miss the castle image in the crest...

    • @mikthepainter
      @mikthepainter Рік тому +2

      I miss the castle as well, the new crest is bland, and it should say east london

    • @stephenkelley7951
      @stephenkelley7951 Рік тому +7

      where did they grab Thomas ironworks from?! just takes a second of research, that's the most basic part

    • @johnruby147
      @johnruby147 Рік тому +1

      The Castle on the old crest represented the fact that the Boleyn Castle was near the old Upton Park ground , and the crossed Hammers represented the hammers used by boat builders from the old Ship Building Ironworks

    • @villatrinity3518
      @villatrinity3518 11 місяців тому

      Another club like Burnley that "adopted" Aston Villa's famous Claret and blue colours 😂

  • @franl155
    @franl155 2 роки тому +103

    That was very interesting, thank you!
    West Ham's ground was actually just over the border in East Ham [They didn't join to become Newham till later], and the nearest underground station was Upton Park [West Ham station was two stops further down the line, East Ham one stop further up]. The ground was usually referred to as Upton Park.
    There was a legend, myth or whatever during WW2, that you could detect a German spy by getting him to say "Wolverhampton Wanderers" - it being believed that Germans always pronounced the letter "w" as "v".

    • @afrofantom6631
      @afrofantom6631 2 роки тому +4

      just saying it as volverhamtpon vanderers makes it sound german, nice fact.

    • @JasperB12
      @JasperB12 2 роки тому +15

      THAMES Ironworks, as well, not "Thomas" Ironworks. Awful mistake.

    • @TwoTailedFox666
      @TwoTailedFox666 2 роки тому +1

      When Thames Ironworks renamed themselves West Ham, they played in West Ham at the time. The move to the Boleyn Ground didn't come until after the name change.

  • @philipnunn1816
    @philipnunn1816 2 роки тому +80

    A couple of errors on your Crystal Palace section. Penge is in the Borough of Bromley not Croydon and is still called Penge. The area now known as Crystal Palace (where the building and the original football ground which staged the FA Cup Final before WW1) is also in Bromley not Croydon. CPFC did not move to Croydon until they moved to the Nest in Selhurst after WW1.

  • @deeznoots6241
    @deeznoots6241 2 роки тому +171

    To be clear Liverpool and Everton didn’t ‘split’ from each other, Everton existed first at Anfield, but when the stadium owner massively raised the rents Everton moved to a different stadium, so the owner of Anfield simply made a new club to inhabit the now deserted Anfield: Liverpool

    • @NIDELLANEUM
      @NIDELLANEUM 2 роки тому +27

      It does have a parallelism with the Milan derby. AC Milan was created first, but, after some arguments between owners, some of them decided to split away, and formed Inter Milan

    • @williambolger481
      @williambolger481 2 роки тому +5

      Not just the rent as a Methodist club Everton we’re not willing to use the sandon pub as a changing room due to it selling alcohol

    • @OVERDEAUXIS
      @OVERDEAUXIS 2 роки тому +31

      one can truly say Everton is the real peoples club with a working class history. LFC fans will never accept that but it’s undeniable

    • @chonksstonks1820
      @chonksstonks1820 2 роки тому +37

      @@cameron9385 *Immediately proves him right*

    • @Panjax
      @Panjax 2 роки тому +15

      @@chonksstonks1820 The state of Liverpool fans when they actually can't play the 'but muh history' card.

  • @expandedhistory
    @expandedhistory 2 роки тому +138

    As an American, my knowledge in football (although called “soccer” here) is essentially slim to none. But this video was extremely helpful and entertaining to watch Hilbert. Thanks!

    • @cleganebowldog6626
      @cleganebowldog6626 2 роки тому +1

      Ditto.

    • @hawkinsstern5356
      @hawkinsstern5356 2 роки тому +6

      Its pretty popular among younger people here. Mexican league is most viewed, EPL is second, then UEFA Champions League, and MLS (domestic league of US +3 Canadian team)of leagues consistently broadcast in the US.

    • @marcushertz4434
      @marcushertz4434 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/6KeG_i8CWE8/v-deo.html&ab_channel=NBCSportsNetwork
      You could also watch this one, if you haven't already.

    • @brodown64
      @brodown64 2 роки тому +18

      I’m an American who loves football (both types in fact) and seeing the sport combined with history is sick imo

    • @caomhan84
      @caomhan84 2 роки тому +5

      I've followed the Premier League since 1998 so I'm quite well versed in it...but honestly (despite the derision that this guy gives it in the video) our "hand egg" NFL football league has its own interesting history that's pretty wild and nothing to snort at. The NFL did a pretty good video about it for the 100th anniversary season.

  • @The-Rees
    @The-Rees Рік тому +19

    I’ve not read all the comments so I may have missed something similar, however just to build on what you’ve said;
    Man City - they’ve always been known as the blues although they started being called the citizens during the last 10-15 years.
    The ship on their shirt refers to the Manchester ship canal.
    Man Utd - they also have the ship on their shirt as the Manchester ship canal was a big deal for Manchester in history.
    Everton - the name ‘The Toffees’ comes from the fact that Everton Toffee has been made in the area since the 1700’s.
    Liverpool - the bird is actually pronounced slightly differently to how you said it, it’s spelled Liver-bird but you’d pronounce it ‘Ly-ver’.
    The story says that the Liver bird attached to the liver building is tied down. If it flies away, the building will collapse and Liverpool will sink into the river Mersey.
    Thanks

  • @papaquonis
    @papaquonis 2 роки тому +276

    Rather confusingly, "Liver" as in Liver bird and Liver building is not pronounced the same way as in Liverpool. It's actually lie-ver.

    • @jackmackenzie6721
      @jackmackenzie6721 2 роки тому +14

      Caught this too, was like wtf. Also of note traditionally, Everton is the Protestant team and Liverpool the Catholic team.

    • @ElainaMaruyama
      @ElainaMaruyama 2 роки тому +9

      Yeeaaah as I scouser I cringed a bit at that one

    • @miccul
      @miccul 2 роки тому +29

      @@jackmackenzie6721 this is incorrect, while a sectarian divide is really something of distant memory - Everton was commonly noted as the catholic team despite its roots from a Methodist church. Also i've heard anecdotes of seats and turnstiles reserved to just the roman-catholic clergy. The early Everton boards where also more liberal and had people like Dr James Baxter (popular Irish catholic) while the Liverpool boards more Orangeman/Freemason - though there was a mix in both clubs overall. Similarly there where notable Irish catholic players which will have swung things too. There's also stuff to be said about the influence of Celtic & Rangers at the time and songs sung about either club. Again, it's safe to say that nowadays any sort of sectarian divide no longer exists and the earlier ones that did where tentative at best.

    • @emmybm15
      @emmybm15 2 роки тому +3

      I'm not even a Scouser (But a huge Liverpool supporter) and I reacted a bit when I heard him pronounce it the way he did! I was like "No, that's not how you pronounce that" 😅

    • @suzannerichardson5092
      @suzannerichardson5092 2 роки тому +4

      I noticed that straight away. A liver bird, pronounced like the organ sounds revolting.

  • @peeper2070
    @peeper2070 2 роки тому +5

    A not very well-known history behind Tottenham Hotspur’s name is they were also frequently called ‘Shit’ throughout the past 130 years because of they’re playing style, dating back to the Victorian era when they were shit.

  • @josephdipiero7976
    @josephdipiero7976 2 роки тому +15

    This was fantastic. I’ve been looking for English-language histories of the top Serie A clubs. Would love it if you could take them on next.

  • @mbgamer3189
    @mbgamer3189 2 роки тому +124

    7:47 - The word Liver is not pronounced as "Liv-ver" but "Lye-ver". This is due to the Scouse accent and pronunciation. Also the Liver Bird is a mythical creature that dates back to the 13th century and is a hybrid mix of a Cormorant, Eagle and a Phoenix.

    • @JohnCooper-gm6mn
      @JohnCooper-gm6mn 2 роки тому +8

      Cheers OP, as soon as I heard that I had to pause the video and come find this comment or post one myself.

    • @JohnCooper-gm6mn
      @JohnCooper-gm6mn 2 роки тому

      ​@@akimboblues7527 Which pronunciation are you deriding, OP's or Hilbert's?

    • @JohnCooper-gm6mn
      @JohnCooper-gm6mn 2 роки тому +2

      @@akimboblues7527 Well you laughed at it, so I figured derision rather than disagreement, and you're wrong, OP is right.
      Hilbert's pronunciation of Liver Bird was incorrect and the one OP has given here is a closer representation.

    • @eddhardy1054
      @eddhardy1054 2 роки тому +3

      I always thought the Liver-bird was part Cormorant & part Northern Sh*te-hawk. 😉 (COYS!)

    • @54johnpaul
      @54johnpaul 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly! This mispronunciation is comical and makes the article less credible

  • @DavidSmith-eh7rs
    @DavidSmith-eh7rs Рік тому +3

    Really enjoyed that, especially being someone not from the UK who is a fan of the league but never had much knowledge about the nicknames or the history of the clubs. Great job!

  • @shoutinghorse
    @shoutinghorse 2 роки тому +32

    The club that became West Ham United was called 'Thames Ironworks FC' not Thomas ironworks. They were formed by the owner and foreman of the Thames Ironwork and Shipbuilding Company in Canning town, East London.

    • @miked4027
      @miked4027 2 роки тому +6

      LOL Where the hell did he get the name 'Thomas Ironworks' :)

    • @shoutinghorse
      @shoutinghorse 2 роки тому +3

      @@miked4027 Well he got most of the letters right. 😉

  • @AmirBrooks
    @AmirBrooks Рік тому +3

    I really like to see you do a video for the other clubs in the English Football League. There's plenty of interesting stories to be told here!

  • @nick0875
    @nick0875 2 роки тому +30

    What a coincidence, I have been paying more attention to the Premier League recently and I wondering why some of these teams were named what they were. Thanks for the video Hilbert.

  • @CatastrophicFox
    @CatastrophicFox 2 роки тому +34

    Leeds United are also called the Peacocks, because their ground Elland Road used to be called the Old Peacock Ground, which it's self was named after the associated pub. In fact the defunct Leeds City, who used to play at same ground, were also called the Peacocks.

    • @srichardson1963
      @srichardson1963 2 роки тому

      Also the Peacock brewery was originally on the same site as the ground

    • @johnchristopherhart
      @johnchristopherhart 2 роки тому +3

      And Dirty Leeds!

    • @stevebagnall1553
      @stevebagnall1553 2 роки тому

      Pre 1962 when Don Revie become manager the Leeds colours were the Cities colour of Blue and Old Gold, this linked with the pub name gave rise to phrase Proud as a Peacock, a name strongly used after WWII, until Revie changed the strip to all white, to make the players appear to be bigger, physically.

    • @blackbob3358
      @blackbob3358 Рік тому

      @@johnchristopherhart No call for that, in this "historical context". Manc, at all ?

  • @MrAstonvilla1990
    @MrAstonvilla1990 2 роки тому +21

    Great video, one point I picked up on is you stating wolves are the oldest team currently in the premier league being formed in 1877, however earlier in the video you mentioned Aston Villa were formed in 1874.
    Still an incredibly informative video

  • @giants2k8
    @giants2k8 Рік тому +1

    I never expected such a great history channel to dedicate an episode to football. Football and history happen to two of my favorite things, so congrats on creating the perfect video sir.

  • @Lukeplastow
    @Lukeplastow 2 роки тому +3

    Hilbert, another informative video, loved it. I learned some new info about teams I have been for years but you need to tighten down on the errors. The two that jumped out were the West Ham dates and how many teams are in the league.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @DarthBoboFett
    @DarthBoboFett Рік тому +12

    City are known as The Citizens as a slate on Manchester United, who are actually from the NEIGHBOURING CITY OF SALFORD.
    This became the city club&fans official nickname during the season of the Thaksin Shinawatra takeover (owners before the Mansour's), as a very public protest against the "Noisy Neighbours" tag they received from the media after Shinawatra's takeover.
    The official team nickname before this was simply "The Sky Blues", which after their rise to the Premier league became "The City Blues" as the club has always maintained that their kit is "City Blue" as opposed to "Sky Blue".
    I actually work at National football museum, in Manchester. It's a question we get quite regularly from younger visitors. Other than this, a very well-informed video. Nice work dude 😎

  • @Akirkland24
    @Akirkland24 2 роки тому

    I just randomly came across this video and I must say it was fantastic. Both brief and informative. Thank you!

  • @icarus-wings
    @icarus-wings 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for the explanation of the Premier League and the sport of football at the start of this video, for all of the viewers who didn’t know but were nevertheless interested in a video on the origins of the league’s club names.

  • @hernanhenriquez6778
    @hernanhenriquez6778 2 роки тому +23

    As an Argentine to me. The premier is the best and most fun and competitive league to watch. Outside of South America ofcz... Ps i miss the old Manchester City shield the new one looks like it was made in Microsoft Paint

    • @indiekiddrugpatrol3117
      @indiekiddrugpatrol3117 2 роки тому +5

      The new one is actually older than the Eagle one and was used back in the 1970s and 1980s

    • @hernanhenriquez6778
      @hernanhenriquez6778 2 роки тому +2

      @@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 yeah i knew that wich is why it made sence that they fixed it in 1997... But they had to bring it back for some reason. Anyways its still not as ugly as the Brentford one lol

  • @samtoomer9447
    @samtoomer9447 2 роки тому +16

    Couple points:
    Norwich's kit was changed to yellow to match the nickname
    Another theory for the origin of toon was a reference to the black and white kits looking like the cartoons of the time
    The borough of Newham was a name chosen by locals as it was a combination of the boroughs of East Ham and West Ham

    • @colinafobe2152
      @colinafobe2152 2 роки тому +3

      interesting trivia, city of Norwich is twinned with Serbian city of Novi Sad which is twinned with Italian city Modena. all 3 clubs have nickname Canaries

    • @smoeellot
      @smoeellot Рік тому

      So why isn’t West Ham called east/West Ham then?

  • @wolfmauler
    @wolfmauler 2 роки тому

    Fantastic to see you tackling this topic! COYS!!!!

  • @realperson6957
    @realperson6957 2 роки тому +1

    Loved this mate. You have an amazing channel anyway, and getting some football history in here makes it better :) keep up the good work mate!

  • @Musydid911
    @Musydid911 2 роки тому +4

    Please make more football history videos!

  • @jaynorris3722
    @jaynorris3722 2 роки тому +7

    This is brilliant. Be great to hear and learn about other clubs.

  • @garryconnolly2026
    @garryconnolly2026 2 роки тому

    Thank you Hilbert for another great video. Beautifully done!

  • @losttobooze
    @losttobooze Рік тому

    This was a great departure from your usual, thanks.

  • @charliederrick1583
    @charliederrick1583 2 роки тому +3

    The fact that you are a fellow newcastle fan brings joy to my heart

  • @UTFR58
    @UTFR58 2 роки тому +7

    This was really interesting, would love to see you do this for championship clubs

    • @I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music
      @I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music 2 роки тому

      Why would the 2nd division call itself that?

    • @UTFR58
      @UTFR58 2 роки тому +1

      @@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music they did it to make it more glamorous and raise the profile of the other divisions. It’s more fitting than “division one” because of all the great football that comes out of it.

  • @igboanudehenry7398
    @igboanudehenry7398 Рік тому

    This so educative and interesting.
    Thank you 😊

  • @smithles554433
    @smithles554433 2 роки тому

    Love all the clips from the mitchell and webb show you've edited in 👌🏻

  • @IndiBrony
    @IndiBrony 2 роки тому +3

    Haweh tha TOON!! Just found your videos. It's nice to hear a local voice on UA-cam!

  • @arvedui89
    @arvedui89 2 роки тому +25

    14:35 - you say that WHU was created in 1985 instead of 1895 :) And by the way, isn't liver bird pronunced differently to the city itself? Isn't it as "leiver bird"?

    • @joshuataylor3550
      @joshuataylor3550 2 роки тому +5

      Also: Newton Heath, Preston North End, and THAMES ironworks. The last one is pretty egregious.

    • @kieranallen3904
      @kieranallen3904 2 роки тому +2

      And he only did 17/20 teams

    • @ianker7143
      @ianker7143 2 роки тому

      @@kieranallen3904 Lists 20 and I counted 20 - check the timelines at the bottom of the screen. Will need to redo without Watford, Burnley and Norwich for next season - adding yo-yo teams Fulham and Bournemouth and rejuvenated Nottingham Forest.

    • @connoryoung8951
      @connoryoung8951 Рік тому

      Didn’t he say 17 at the end?

  • @JaphetMesa
    @JaphetMesa 8 місяців тому

    High value content. Thank you

  • @Marioejoseph
    @Marioejoseph 2 роки тому

    Very good history lesson! Thank you 👍🏻

  • @andrewlongcake6446
    @andrewlongcake6446 2 роки тому +13

    the ham part of west ham actually refers to it being a Hamlet outside the city of Londons walls, the area was known as the tower hamlets , this included all the small Hamlets east of the Tower of London. You will also find that West Ham fans use the Irons Nick name, The nickname Iron belongs to Scunthorpe United

    • @hux2000
      @hux2000 2 роки тому +2

      "Ham" in this context actually derives from the Old English word "hamm", which is a piece of land (often marshland) near to, or bordered by one or more rivers. In this case, it's the part of London bordered by the river Roding to the east, the Lea to the west and the Thames to the south, with the western part of that land being West Ham. (And West Ham isn't in Tower Hamlets, btw, which is the area on the other side of the river Lea.)

    • @blackbob3358
      @blackbob3358 Рік тому

      @@hux2000 No mention of "the iron" question young man; Why not ?

  • @floch954
    @floch954 2 роки тому +13

    The nickname 'Man U' first came into existence with insult from West Brom fans who chanted this about the United Legend, Duncan Edwards (one of the Busby Babes and Munich air disaster
    victim) as they said, "Duncan Edwards is manure, rotting in his grave, man you are manure-rotting in your grave." so United fans hate Man U and I think Man Utd is far, far more used anyway

    • @joshuataylor3550
      @joshuataylor3550 2 роки тому

      Sounds like an urban myth. Although notable that other 'United's' don't use the 'U' contraction.

    • @floch954
      @floch954 2 роки тому +1

      @@joshuataylor3550 I think if it was made up then they wouldn't have picked West Brom as the club, it would have been City, Leeds or Liverpool

    • @philipjones3517
      @philipjones3517 2 роки тому

      Online United fans definitely prefer Man Utd to Man U, although I can remember Man U being chanted by United fans in the eighties. I'm dubious about the Albion explanation

    • @EstebanRedDevil31
      @EstebanRedDevil31 Рік тому

      That's right. Some fans also made an acronym with Munich, place of the accident:
      Manchester
      United
      Never
      Intended
      Coming
      Home

  • @nonder92
    @nonder92 2 роки тому +2

    You should do this with every division down to the national league! Lots of historic clubs on the way down to non league. Awesome video!

  • @whiteblueization
    @whiteblueization 2 роки тому

    Super interesting video, thank you very much !

  • @lewisblackwiththenicehair
    @lewisblackwiththenicehair 2 роки тому +34

    Local Manc here, firstly great video, lot of interesting facts I didn't know, there's two things I want to touch on though, mainly Manchester Uniteds old name, it's Newton Heath, not Newtown, named after the Newton Heath area in East Manchester (about half a mile from where Manchester City now play amusingly) although Newton did originally derive from Newtown it's pronounced like the surname of Sir Isaac. Also the Citizens name is popular amongst City fans themselves, but doesn't seem to have taken off with other fans, it'll slowly get more popular over time though I think as City push it in their marketing frequently these days, it's plastered all over the stadium which I walk past daily 😅

    • @richiethirlwell9454
      @richiethirlwell9454 2 роки тому

      Sir Isaac Pitman?

    • @lewisblackwiththenicehair
      @lewisblackwiththenicehair 2 роки тому +1

      @@richiethirlwell9454 no, Sir Isaac Alfred Isaacs the former Australian Governor

    • @Griff01
      @Griff01 2 роки тому +3

      Add to that, Manchester Central actually becoming a splinter club from City when they moved to Maine Road, and there's actually a non league team still playing called Manchester Central, and arguably the Red Devils coming from Salford City Rugby league club

    • @philipjones3517
      @philipjones3517 2 роки тому

      Manchester United AFAIK was just a renaming of Newton Heath, not an amalgamation of a number of clubs.

    • @philipjones3517
      @philipjones3517 2 роки тому

      @@Griff01 I think the RL club is just Salford; Salford City are a football club.

  • @joelthorpe4170
    @joelthorpe4170 2 роки тому +20

    Leeds are nicknamed the Peacocks or Scum, depending on where you're based.

  • @twoswords5524
    @twoswords5524 2 роки тому

    Great video, would love to see one for stadiums and even other sports or leagues

  • @nicholasgibson5775
    @nicholasgibson5775 Рік тому

    I really enjoyed this . Good content

  • @amo-kd9cn
    @amo-kd9cn 2 роки тому +25

    Not our nickname but Cardiff are known to “do the ayatollah” which is tapping your head they do this because when the ayatollah died in iran Cardiff were terrible and since the news was filled with Iranians showing grief by tapping their head Cardiff fans started tapping their heads after every loss as a sign of grief for how terrible Cardiff were

    • @m.domsuni4514
      @m.domsuni4514 2 роки тому

      I’m interested to hear what a Cardiff fans views on your owner trying to turn you into the “Red Dragons” is and changing your badge and colours for a short time. Did your fans actually care or was it just Sky Sports making a big deal when you didn’t mind?

    • @amo-kd9cn
      @amo-kd9cn 2 роки тому +2

      @@m.domsuni4514 I was quite little at the time and more interested in rugby but I remember being a huge deal some people who’d been to every game since the 80s started boycotting until tan leaves and many still are even after it got changed back

    • @m.domsuni4514
      @m.domsuni4514 2 роки тому

      @@amo-kd9cn it’s very interesting to me from an outsiders perspective, in my life there’s never been such a switch in a football clubs image and I think it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Tan stuck to his guns and didn’t change back. Having a team based in wales with such an East Asian theme would be very interesting from a history perspective in the future.

  • @BillyPhilipRwoth
    @BillyPhilipRwoth 2 роки тому +31

    Further context to West Ham’s location: Newham was formed in 1960s after the amalgamation of East Ham and West Ham which were hitherto separate boroughs!

    • @marcussimmons7388
      @marcussimmons7388 2 роки тому

      In Essex as well

    • @TwoTailedFox666
      @TwoTailedFox666 2 роки тому +2

      Yes, and Thames Ironworks renamed themselves to West Ham because that was where they played their matches (this was before their move to the Boleyn Ground, which was on the border of East Ham and West Ham). As OP mentioned, When the Greater London Metropolitan Area was created, the residents of East Ham and West Ham elected to call the proposed amalgamation of the two "Newham" as in "New Ham".

  • @markospap92
    @markospap92 7 місяців тому

    Amazing video, tons of info, loads of fun.
    Please keep the music a bit lower as it becomes tiring after some mins :)

  • @natangweiitula
    @natangweiitula 2 роки тому +1

    Please do all the leagues this video was truly lovely

  • @krisdudas-hjelms7036
    @krisdudas-hjelms7036 2 роки тому +6

    Reminds me of a video by Alfie from HITC Sevens. You guys even have a somewhat similar style. Would love a collab one day between you two!!

  • @HardWater91
    @HardWater91 2 роки тому +4

    The Seven Sister cliffs are closer to Brighton than Dover, they are more iconic as well.
    The hill on which half of Brighton is situated on is called ‘Albion Hill’, so the hotel on the seafront is called ‘The Royal Albion’.

  • @tcv030
    @tcv030 Рік тому

    This was nice, thanks alot! Please do the eredivisie from the Netherlands also. Would love to hear you pronounce Dutch football clubs names my guy! Keep it up!

  • @Speedyconnor18
    @Speedyconnor18 Рік тому

    Love this video as a Burnley fan.
    Thank you Hilbert

  • @SunshineSML
    @SunshineSML 2 роки тому +3

    You should do the whole EFL , theres so much history to be explored

  • @tomlynch8114
    @tomlynch8114 2 роки тому +3

    Newcastle United use 1892 as that is when they took that name and became the only professional club in Newcastle. In reality, they’re Newcastle East End who were founded as Stanley FC in 1881 (changing to East End in 1882). It was actually Newcastle West End (founded 1882) that played at St James’ Park which is located on the western edge of the city centre. East End started out at Stanley Street in Byker in the east end of Newcastle (hence the original name). They played at a few grounds in Byker before moving to the neighbouring area of Heaton. It was East End who had the better team and finances, but West End had the better location. West struggled financially and ended up going under. Several West End directors met with their East End counterparts inviting them as the city’s only professional club to take up residence at St James’ Park. East End accepted. As they moved out of the East End and wanted to appeal to the whole city they decided on a new name. Newcastle United was chosen in a vote held during a public meeting.
    Also ‘Toon Army’ refers to the supporters not the club. It’s a bit outdated as well as hasn’t really been used since the 90s.
    The Magpies is the proper nickname but yes The Toon is also used. Supporters can be called ‘Mags’

  • @meeds7473
    @meeds7473 2 роки тому

    Not the content I was expecting from Hilbert, but I'm here for it

  • @gingergreek
    @gingergreek 2 роки тому

    Love it. Do each league

  • @SimonJohn67
    @SimonJohn67 2 роки тому +12

    Aston Villa were founded in 1874 and Wolves were founded in 1877.
    So how does that make Wolves to oldest club currently playing in the premier league?

    • @aston452
      @aston452 2 роки тому +3

      Best 2 teams in the league wolves & villa wolves ay we 😂

  • @Munnmaista
    @Munnmaista 2 роки тому +5

    It has to be the most Brighton thing ever that their entire modern identity comes from trying to copy Crystal Palace

    • @HardWater91
      @HardWater91 2 роки тому

      Weren’t copying, taking the piss more like
      Palace stole ‘Eagles’ from a team from Portugal, now that is the most Palace thing ever
      How many eagles live around Selhurst?

    • @TomClarkSouthLondon
      @TomClarkSouthLondon 2 роки тому +2

      @@HardWater91 I am an 🦅 living in Holmesdale Road. Your shirt looks like a TESCO bag.

    • @HardWater91
      @HardWater91 Рік тому

      @@TomClarkSouthLondon BHA had blue & white stripes before Tesco was even formed. One of the best in the Premier League. Rather that than a jesters outfit copied from Barcelona to try a form an identity.
      Eagles lol They’re not even red or blue. Your badge is nearly as blue & white as ours. Your club song doesn’t even have a connection to you, the band were Tottenham fans.

  • @fistingendakenny8781
    @fistingendakenny8781 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent video hibert

  • @AfricanWithNoFlies
    @AfricanWithNoFlies 2 роки тому

    beautiful work. thanks for this

  • @MeStevely
    @MeStevely 2 роки тому +9

    No.1 Southampton is a city - not a town.
    No.2 The club was called 'Southampton St. Marys' before adopting the simplified name 'Southampton'.
    So it's easy to see where their nickname came from.

    • @andyaccount
      @andyaccount Рік тому

      Correct, St. Mary's was the area of the City, as is the case now, where there team originally played before moving to the now disused County Ground temporarily, where Hampshire Cricket Club also played, before moving down the road to The Dell

  • @swaffelkonijn5166
    @swaffelkonijn5166 2 роки тому +5

    I'd love to see your take on eredivisie nicknames

  • @hamster4810
    @hamster4810 2 роки тому

    This is amazing seeing you talk about this. Will you do more videos on this?

  • @sasinator6918
    @sasinator6918 2 роки тому

    Great video Hilbert. You should do a video on the nicknames of the championship team and the rest of the football league. Also congrats on smashing my team arsenal last Match day, Newcastle are really improving with the new owners. I thought Wolverhampton’s nickname was the old gold as well as just wolves.

  • @MrTubbz
    @MrTubbz 2 роки тому +6

    Nice vid, love learning about random football history. Small nitpick, I think the nickname for Man City is 'Cityzens' rather than 'Citizens' as you spelt it in the video

  • @bobmcbob9856
    @bobmcbob9856 2 роки тому +10

    Halbert is a fan of Norf Fc, a proud customer of Greggs, hater of Souf FC, and greatest fan of Norf FC’s star player Ngubu

  • @afrofantom6631
    @afrofantom6631 2 роки тому

    Big up Hilbert for the video and calling it the barclays premier league in the description, keeping it vintage.

  • @cobrakai516
    @cobrakai516 2 роки тому

    Great video! If you could a video on the Bundesliga football clubs that would be awesome.

  • @EstebanRedDevil31
    @EstebanRedDevil31 Рік тому +4

    Great video, I've learned a lot! But there's something wrong or not so accurate. As a Manchester United fan it is wrong to call our team "Man U", In my understanding fans of other teams use to call us that after the plane crash in 1958.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 2 роки тому +14

    We should America Football, “Hand-egg” really. It!s ridiculous it’s called football.
    I love all the Mitchell and Webb Look references here too.

    • @thelinedrive
      @thelinedrive 2 роки тому +1

      You and every other British hipster from the 1950s in some sort of nationalism insisted on Football despite being the ones who came up with the term soccer from the term association football.

    • @ArcticTemper
      @ArcticTemper 2 роки тому +2

      ​@@thelinedrive Nobody's complaining about Americans calling footy soccer, because that's done in Ireland, South Africa, Oz and New Zealand. It's just calling Handegg football that's silly.

    • @Amcsae
      @Amcsae 2 роки тому +1

      I call it 'Throw Oblong Object', but I think I'll adopt Hand-Egg. A lot more concise!

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 роки тому

      Calling association football soccer is the bane of my sports existence even though I run and support rugby union

    • @BrandtHambrick
      @BrandtHambrick 2 роки тому +2

      @@ArcticTemper Rugby Football and Australian Football has hand eggs too.

  • @delaveer9547
    @delaveer9547 Рік тому

    Great video bro, very well-made and informative

    • @connoryoung8951
      @connoryoung8951 Рік тому

      There was some mistakes, the comments have already gone over them all incase u want the correct info.

  • @cliveo181
    @cliveo181 2 роки тому +2

    This was awesome. You should do EFL Championship clubs as well.

  • @hannahabdoll1836
    @hannahabdoll1836 2 роки тому +5

    Manchester United fans NEVER refer to themselves as “Man U” supporters. It’s a name that was given to them by rivals in an awful and disrespectful chant - referring to the Munich air disaster.

    • @bryancostello4362
      @bryancostello4362 2 роки тому +1

      The amount of inaccuracies in this video is frightening.

    • @connoryoung8951
      @connoryoung8951 Рік тому

      Younger fans(yet to hear the tales) of the club and foreign fans do- if u wanna argue they aren’t real fans u can but if u follow a team…

  • @BillyPhilipRwoth
    @BillyPhilipRwoth 2 роки тому +7

    I am sure Brighton’s nickname has something with the place being synonyms with aggressive seagulls, not merely the Crystal Palace spin 😅

    • @josephtreacy667
      @josephtreacy667 2 роки тому

      I tjought it was the Tarquins.

    • @senianns9522
      @senianns9522 Рік тому

      Albion is an old English word meaning 'union' or 'united'.

  • @clytemnestra
    @clytemnestra 2 роки тому

    Glad this is a football channel now lol - it would be cool if you made a video following the histories of the founding members of the Football League or something similar

  • @TheFukula
    @TheFukula 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video, you should do one about La Liga too

  • @RonFer1945
    @RonFer1945 2 роки тому +5

    West Ham United was original called Thames Ironworks (not Thomas).

  • @patricksgregory935
    @patricksgregory935 2 роки тому +6

    Great video. Just one correction Crystal Palace was founded in 1861.

    • @TomClarkSouthLondon
      @TomClarkSouthLondon 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, the CRYSTAL PALACE football club founded 1861 . . . .👍 but the “established” 1905, just referring to the club becoming professional.
      The CRYSTAL PALACE football club were founder members of the Football Association and the only surviving members of the very first ever FA cup competition, where they reached the semi final only to be beaten by the Royal Engineers 👌

  • @a.delafrancesca1459
    @a.delafrancesca1459 2 роки тому

    Love it! Hope to see more! Even from the spanish league :D

  • @insidebriansmind
    @insidebriansmind 2 роки тому

    so cool. loved this😁

  • @j-mez6956
    @j-mez6956 2 роки тому +8

    HITC sevens got competition

    • @Willaonyt
      @Willaonyt 5 місяців тому

      Lmao exactly what I was thinking

  • @jackhenderson2562
    @jackhenderson2562 2 роки тому +3

    5:40 quick note Penge is still a thing i think crystal palace just took a bit of land from each bordering area

    • @TomClarkSouthLondon
      @TomClarkSouthLondon 2 роки тому +1

      Another quick note, the original CRYSTAL PALACE football club 1861 only played in the Penge area of the park, however the park covers many boroughs and they CPFC, are definitely NOT from Croydon.

  • @-Juniperiia
    @-Juniperiia 2 роки тому

    That was super interesting, could you maybe look into some generally interesting and memorable football clubs generally from anywhere, tho learning about some old school traditional clubs that are no longer as relevant as they used to sounds super fun. Like Millwall or the Wanderers.

  • @smoeellot
    @smoeellot Рік тому

    Herbert, i f-ing loved watching this video. It was so interesting. I like the story of “Southampton” and why they are called “saint” but although this was an insightful video the comments are just as good or even better. All the comments seem genuine and every fan of their respective teams knows their shit and know their history. Reading the comments was a history lesson in its self.

  • @ZangetsUK
    @ZangetsUK 2 роки тому +3

    You've got to do the names/nicknames of lower league teams now!

  • @danpreston564
    @danpreston564 2 роки тому +7

    I found it interesting that you said Arsenal came from the munitions factory without mentioning the munitions factory is called the Arsenal.

    • @JodenPaoloPeroy
      @JodenPaoloPeroy 2 роки тому +2

      And also the fact that their original name was Woolwich Arsenal as well.

    • @davidcopson5800
      @davidcopson5800 Рік тому

      He should be fired for that!

  • @nleak92
    @nleak92 2 роки тому

    This was brilliant, you should think about doing this for the championship

  • @Iwanek02
    @Iwanek02 2 роки тому

    More vids on football please!

  • @JetFuelCantMeltAutismVaccines
    @JetFuelCantMeltAutismVaccines 2 роки тому +6

    Im not a Manchester City supporter, yet I can confirm that their nickname, the Citizens, are quite widely known and used.

    • @joshuataylor3550
      @joshuataylor3550 2 роки тому +1

      I think it's used more for the fans than the club itself.

    • @floch954
      @floch954 2 роки тому +1

      @@joshuataylor3550 Agreed plus I hear people say we're playing the foxes" this Saturday etc but never heard anyone say the same for Citizens, it's always Man City

    • @joshuataylor3550
      @joshuataylor3550 2 роки тому

      Yeah exactly, I was tempted to say it was rather unique in this but actually I think 'toon army' is more of a fan indicator as well, rather than pointing to a club or the team actually on the pitch.

    • @JetFuelCantMeltAutismVaccines
      @JetFuelCantMeltAutismVaccines 2 роки тому

      @@joshuataylor3550 Nope, its mainly used about the team/club. In Norway its so widely used to describe the club that you can see newspaper headlines in just norwegian along with the word 'citizens'. English commentators use it as well. I wouldnt be surprised if its so widely used that the scripted commentator and 'news' site on career mode in the videogame Fifa references it as well.

    • @JetFuelCantMeltAutismVaccines
      @JetFuelCantMeltAutismVaccines 2 роки тому

      @@joshuataylor3550 That the nickname Toon Army is regarding the Newcastle supporters specifically is correct though.

  • @samuelschonenberger
    @samuelschonenberger 2 роки тому +5

    I've heard Man City often referred to as "the Skyblues" as well as as the "Citizens"

    • @davidcopson5800
      @davidcopson5800 Рік тому +2

      And Coventry City of course are nicknamed 'the Sky Blues'.

  • @NothingToSeeHere32
    @NothingToSeeHere32 Рік тому

    Great vid, very informative, work on your sound levels for the next one

  • @GarbanzoBeansFan
    @GarbanzoBeansFan Рік тому

    Nice work