I started developing my own film because I was impatient and didn't want to wait for a lab to do it. Also my lab in China started ruining my negatives. As soon as I started developing film myself I started looking for ways to make it easier. The inversion process was an obvious target, so I bought a poor man's Jobo on TaoBao in China. It's a horizontal motorized device that has only one control - speed. It only cost US$50 and has worked great for the last 3 years. It's all I really needed. I can handle the temperature myself using a sous vide warmer.
@@mynewcolour The speed does not really matter, you want some speed as half of the film is out of the developer when it rotates. So you dont want to exhaust that developer that's on the film. Iw tested really fast rotations, it does not matter at all. Any rotating platform is amazing, as you save so much chemicals. I can develop 10 sheets of 4x5" with 250ml. Or 5 rolls of 135 with 500ml.
I decided to back this after seeing this video. I've always hated wrestling with my sous vide/thermometers to try and keep my temperature perfect and this seems like a perfect solution and a huge time saver.
Was just about to pull the trigger on a Jobo after watching your video on it as I wanted a home development solution, but this looks like a way more appropriate option for me as someone who's just starting out in film photography. Definitely backing this! It would be really cool to see your results and thoughts developing color film with it, and also how the results compare to your Jobo. Appreciate you making this Kyle!
a fantastic idea, and one Ilford could add to the simplicity kits, the chemistry in a yoghurt container, and as it does most things and is simple enough for kids to use, this device would augment this already turn-key solution into a full system; one buy, except the consumable chemistry, and done!, especially for school art, or for photography beginner darkroom classes.
Having developed many hundreds of rolls (not just one roll) in Paterson-type tanks, I have one big concern: when using the tank normally (with inversion agitation) you're supposed to spin the reels and central core a few times at the start of development to dislodge air bubbles. This is done via a keyed rod that you insert down the center of the funnel. I think everybody who has used a Paterson tank very much will bear me out that it is VERY common during this initial spin for the reels and core to drag, catch and stall when they rub against the inside of the tank. It's not so bad for a spin or two, but if I understand this blurb correctly, the AGO relies on this center-core spin *all the time* for agitation. If the AGO's motor doesn't have a lot of torque, it will stall out if this happens... and if it has enough torque, it might pull itself out of the tank, or unlock the top of the tank, or rip the end of the film off the reel. I would need to see a LOT more field experience with this agitation method before I'd be confident in leaving it unattended. I'm also not sure that handling temperature changes by varying development time in response to a fixed curve is as great an idea as the host thinks it is... different films and developers respond to temperature change differently, so this approach would be only a "ballpark" solution. I'm sure it would work fine with b&w film, which is pretty tolerant, but again, I'd rather see more testing (at someone else's expense) before I tried running super-picky E6 films in it.
you shouldn't develop colour film at anything other than 38 celsius because the 3 color layers develop at different rates at different temperatures resulting in colour shifts, the naked photographer has made a great video demonstrating this
I saw this thing originally a year or so ago and thought it would never actually happen but I loved the idea. Glad to see they made it happen and it works really well. Personally I paid similar for my Jobo with the lift so won't be rushing out to buy one, but tell you what I'd much rather set that little thing up than the Jobo as mine doesn't have a permanent home haha.
Very cool video... thanks for letting us know about this! Will you just be talking about gear in upcoming "In Focus" segments, or will you for example talk about other peoples creative work? Thanks again!
I’ve thought about trying some film development for a long time, just can’t do it now… I’ve got a perfect camera to get me into it as well, ‘55 Zeiss Ikon Contaflex which was my fathers. His mother had purchased it so he could record photos of my parents first born, yeah that would be myself. I had the camera repaired as both the shutter and aperture were not working. Probably spent way more in repairs than the cameras worth, but it has a lot of sentimental value to me… Enjoyed your review, decided to subscribe as well.
I welcome you.Question about this unit. Is it possible to enter your own settings in AGO that are not compatible with those that are flashed there? I will use my own chemistry, it is very different from the branded ones. Such as tetenal C41 and others, but compensation is of interest for the processes C41 and E6, which are also not branded manufacturers, but self-made. I also use processes C5168 and C9165. These processes also have their own temperature, but I would like to manually enter the parameters, and the device would compensate if the chemistry is colder or warmer.Thank you.
Hey, unfortunately we don't have possibility to add your own formulas with compensation curves. Best bet for C-41 and E-6 with AGO is to find program which has same rated temperature and during development stay close to rated temperature with your own chemistry. So you get little time compensation. C-41-s seem to work quite similarly when being -4C down from 38C, being lower then 34C developers time can start to differ. You can make simple custom programs for your needs and change the default programs.
It's an interesting (& intriguing) device, Kyle, but it moves us towards yet another modus of laziness; certainly, I can fully appreciate its dynamic - especially if you are indeed, limited for space. I've been developing & processing film for decades - it's really no effort at all to do this all by hand. Great idea for mass-produced film stock, but for a one-person developer, wholly unnecessary. Thank you for the presentation, Andrew.
Just got the AGO film developer kit that came with 2-reel patterson tank already. Haven't developed with it yet. You mentioned adjusting developer time due to constant agitation vs the standard inversion cycling you go through. Where do you see what is required for c41 film developer times? I use cs-41 cinestill liquid kit.
I love my Paterson Tanks. They are much easier to load than my JOBO tanks. Some chemical processes such as color slides, require precise time/temperature paprameters though.
I love this. I have about 20 rolls of 35 mm and 120 films that need to be developed. This would make life easier, cheaper in the long run, and makes developing easier. About $350.00 for the U.S. version but I think I need to invest in this.
I'm not sure it actually makes developing any *easier.* Agitating a Paterson tank via the traditional inversion method is boring, but not difficult or onerous... and agitation is the ONLY part of the process that the AGO actually automates. You still have to load the film reels and tank in the dark, mix the chemicals, pour them in and out, remove the film and hang it up to dry, and clean up everything afterward. The video makes it obvious that spillage is still a messy problem. And if you like the "time compensation" method of dealing with temperature changes, you can do it with a thermometer and a chart. The only potential advantage would be that you can be getting the next solution ready while the AGO is agitating the current one... and that's only if you can trust it not to stall, stick, tip the tank off the counter, etc., which we won't know until people accumulate a lot more field experience.
Just so I understand for sure, does the temperature compensation occur continuously during the development? For example, if the temperature drifts down (or up) during development, does the unit readjust the time as the development cycle proceeds?
@@KyleMcDougall I don't believe what you said is correct.. According to the product page, it states that "AGO takes care of the rest by continuously monitoring the temperature and automatically adjusting the processing time during the process, guaranteeing consistently perfect negatives with every use."
It looks great, but I really don't understand the drilling out the funnel part. Why does this happen? Maybe they need to ship the product with a drilled out Patterson tank for a little extra. Just seems strange.
I don’t mind the manual process at all when it comes to developing my film. That’s one of the reasons I went back to film because I found myself enjoying the process. Also, this is one of those times when I can truly get away from my phone. Interesting product though.
Interesting. Very interesting. Kyle (or anyone from Vintage Visual): can you use it vertically or does it have to be on its side? Also, what kind of batteries and can they be swapped out? Thanks for the video. Like this idea a lot.
Yes, it can be used vertically (which requires more chemical volume). Details on their website about that. I believe the batteries can be swapped out, and also it's charged via USB C.
How can you use less chemical the way it shows? Isn’t the amount of chemical you use fixed to the amount of film you develop rather than the size of the tank?
Very interesting processor. I would prefer a more simple interface. One knob ON Off and the timer. I think too much electronics programs. In the darkroom the hands are usually wet... so touch screens and buttons are not easy to use.
I developed my own film for years and never had a problem with temperature of the chemicals. You always started with the chemicals at the right temp but then just went into the agitation etc. Can't say I even thought it was a problem but would like to hear more about that. Is it when people live in a cold climate?
Temp correct at the start but do you measure the temp at the end? Putting agitation into the chemicals may increase the temp, especially if it’s constant agitation. If temp increases slowly during the process, I’d say it’s good to compensate or you over develop the negs.
One big minus is that AGO supports only nonstandard home kits in C-41. Bellini is a variant of C41 RA, but all the others are nonstandard simplified kits with blix. There is no program for standard C-41 with Fuji or Kodak standard chemistry.
As much as I love the process of shooting film, scanning my negatives, and the editing process in Lightroom, I just really can’t get myself interested in the idea of developing my own film. I remember when I was in school to become an x-ray technician and I had to learn how to develop my own x-ray films, It just seemed so complicated and tedious. Even now, I’d much rather find a good lab that I trust to develop my film and then I’ll scan them myself at home. Am I alone in this? Haha
Nope. I’m with you - enjoy the process of shooting/scanning but can’t get into development. But as someone who primarily likes to shoot slide film… the number of labs that still process E-6 grows smaller each year.
@@ButtCookiesee I'm slightly opposite. I like shooting and developing and seeing the results. It's fun to me. But I really don't enjoy the scanning process, even doing it with a DSLR setup. I kind of run out of patience during the scanning process.
When I opened the video I knew this was gonna be a cool product but with a "niece" price, meaning overpriced... but holy shit... 320 bucks for an ealry bird and now 440?!?!?! That's just beyond insane, it's just crazy... let's be honest, it's a 20 dollars PCB with a motor and a thermometer attached to it, the display is probably the most expensive part... it shouldn't cost more than 150, and even that would be borderline overpriced. The lab I go to charges €12 for developing and digitalization, if I shoot a roll of 35mm a month, I can develop more than 2 years of film at my lab and still save money! With the new price I can go for 3 years and still have money left!!! It's just insane... the idea is very cool, but people need to calm down and realize that some of the prices they're asking for these simple little products are just off the roof...
I was thinking the same. It is obvious the person who created this producto thought about it, it is just a matter of people start using it to hear their results and how well the final product works.
It's a few dollars worth of plastic and electronics - the Chinese could crank it out for $5, and sell it for $50. Unless the AGO people have their own factory, that's where it's coming from anyway.
@@mikesmith-po8nd a mold alone is like $10,000 for the company to make and then they usually have to have an order of 10,000 units to get the price reasonable.
Isn't it a bit useless in general? An automated agitator and a thermometer? For 400e???? What am I missing here? If it automated chemicals in and out, it would've been an interesting product that justifies the price... now you still have to manually do everything except agitation and you have to keep this thing on top of your tank.... and take care that you don't spill any chemicals on it... and change it's batteries....
So they reached out to you but its not a sponsored video? So you will be sending it back to them? I thought the kickback was you kept the product after review? So it is a sponsored review!
I hate to be a downer, but, all those chemicals you flush down the toilet or pour down the sink after development can't be good for the environment. I am glad people are still shooting on film and developing their own negs, but it's something to think about.
@@KyleMcDougall I propose you make a video on educating the do-it-yourself'ers on this topic. They should be responsible if they are going to develop their own negs (which they should). Keep making great videos, by the way. I enjoy your channel.
I started developing my own film because I was impatient and didn't want to wait for a lab to do it. Also my lab in China started ruining my negatives. As soon as I started developing film myself I started looking for ways to make it easier. The inversion process was an obvious target, so I bought a poor man's Jobo on TaoBao in China. It's a horizontal motorized device that has only one control - speed. It only cost US$50 and has worked great for the last 3 years. It's all I really needed. I can handle the temperature myself using a sous vide warmer.
Greetings! Can you share the link to that poor man jobo device, I think I need just something like that. 😊 Thank you!
Glad to hear you've found a method that works for you. That's what's most important.
I was considering one of these, but how do you use it with a water bath? It’s not water proof as far as I know… would live to hear your solution!
Yeah. All I’m after is something that’ll do constant, slow agitation using a Patterson tank. No extra gimmicks.
@@mynewcolour The speed does not really matter, you want some speed as half of the film is out of the developer when it rotates. So you dont want to exhaust that developer that's on the film. Iw tested really fast rotations, it does not matter at all. Any rotating platform is amazing, as you save so much chemicals. I can develop 10 sheets of 4x5" with 250ml. Or 5 rolls of 135 with 500ml.
I decided to back this after seeing this video. I've always hated wrestling with my sous vide/thermometers to try and keep my temperature perfect and this seems like a perfect solution and a huge time saver.
Was just about to pull the trigger on a Jobo after watching your video on it as I wanted a home development solution, but this looks like a way more appropriate option for me as someone who's just starting out in film photography. Definitely backing this! It would be really cool to see your results and thoughts developing color film with it, and also how the results compare to your Jobo. Appreciate you making this Kyle!
It's much more compact, that's for sure! And the temp/time compensation is great.
Man this looks really cool. Definitely a great addition to the market and something I may have to put under my own tree for Christmas....
I'm getting ready to start developing and scanning at home and this looks very intriguing ! Thank you for this !
You're welcome. Cheers.
Does this processor reverse the agitation every 10 or 15 seconds like the Jobo does? Or does it just agitate one way all the time?
Yes, it does reverse. And you can actually go into the settings and modify how long each rotation is.
That's great then! Looks like a really cool little unit, thanks.@@KyleMcDougall
a fantastic idea, and one Ilford could add to the simplicity kits, the chemistry in a yoghurt container, and as it does most things and is simple enough for kids to use, this device would augment this already turn-key solution into a full system; one buy, except the consumable chemistry, and done!, especially for school art, or for photography beginner darkroom classes.
Honestly, I can't wait for this!!
Love this! Will def make developing much easier and fun.
Having developed many hundreds of rolls (not just one roll) in Paterson-type tanks, I have one big concern: when using the tank normally (with inversion agitation) you're supposed to spin the reels and central core a few times at the start of development to dislodge air bubbles. This is done via a keyed rod that you insert down the center of the funnel. I think everybody who has used a Paterson tank very much will bear me out that it is VERY common during this initial spin for the reels and core to drag, catch and stall when they rub against the inside of the tank. It's not so bad for a spin or two, but if I understand this blurb correctly, the AGO relies on this center-core spin *all the time* for agitation. If the AGO's motor doesn't have a lot of torque, it will stall out if this happens... and if it has enough torque, it might pull itself out of the tank, or unlock the top of the tank, or rip the end of the film off the reel. I would need to see a LOT more field experience with this agitation method before I'd be confident in leaving it unattended.
I'm also not sure that handling temperature changes by varying development time in response to a fixed curve is as great an idea as the host thinks it is... different films and developers respond to temperature change differently, so this approach would be only a "ballpark" solution. I'm sure it would work fine with b&w film, which is pretty tolerant, but again, I'd rather see more testing (at someone else's expense) before I tried running super-picky E6 films in it.
They have most likely tested this enough to know how much motor torque they need.
you shouldn't develop colour film at anything other than 38 celsius because the 3 color layers develop at different rates at different temperatures resulting in colour shifts, the naked photographer has made a great video demonstrating this
I saw this thing originally a year or so ago and thought it would never actually happen but I loved the idea. Glad to see they made it happen and it works really well.
Personally I paid similar for my Jobo with the lift so won't be rushing out to buy one, but tell you what I'd much rather set that little thing up than the Jobo as mine doesn't have a permanent home haha.
Yeah, I still really like the Jobo with the bath to heat chemicals, but the size of this and the time compensation make it really interesting!
this is SICKKKK
Very cool video... thanks for letting us know about this! Will you just be talking about gear in upcoming "In Focus" segments, or will you for example talk about other peoples creative work? Thanks again!
Definitely creative work as well.
I’ve thought about trying some film development for a long time, just can’t do it now…
I’ve got a perfect camera to get me into it as well, ‘55 Zeiss Ikon Contaflex which was my fathers. His mother had purchased it so he could record photos of my parents first born, yeah that would be myself. I had the camera repaired as both the shutter and aperture were not working. Probably spent way more in repairs than the cameras worth, but it has a lot of sentimental value to me…
Enjoyed your review, decided to subscribe as well.
those auto calcs are based upon Watkins factor -- induction of developer. an idea that was derived for thick emulsion bw film.
I welcome you.Question about this unit. Is it possible to enter your own settings in AGO that are not compatible with those that are flashed there? I will use my own chemistry, it is very different from the branded ones. Such as tetenal C41 and others, but compensation is of interest for the processes C41 and E6, which are also not branded manufacturers, but self-made. I also use processes C5168 and C9165. These processes also have their own temperature, but I would like to manually enter the parameters, and the device would compensate if the chemistry is colder or warmer.Thank you.
Hey,
unfortunately we don't have possibility to add your own formulas with compensation curves. Best bet for C-41 and E-6 with AGO is to find program which has same rated temperature and during development stay close to rated temperature with your own chemistry. So you get little time compensation. C-41-s seem to work quite similarly when being -4C down from 38C, being lower then 34C developers time can start to differ.
You can make simple custom programs for your needs and change the default programs.
It's an interesting (& intriguing) device, Kyle, but it moves us towards yet another modus of laziness; certainly, I can fully appreciate its dynamic - especially if you are indeed, limited for space. I've been developing & processing film for decades - it's really no effort at all to do this all by hand. Great idea for mass-produced film stock, but for a one-person developer, wholly unnecessary. Thank you for the presentation,
Andrew.
Just got the AGO film developer kit that came with 2-reel patterson tank already. Haven't developed with it yet. You mentioned adjusting developer time due to constant agitation vs the standard inversion cycling you go through. Where do you see what is required for c41 film developer times? I use cs-41 cinestill liquid kit.
This is super cool thanks!
I love my Paterson Tanks. They are much easier to load than my JOBO tanks. Some chemical processes such as color slides, require precise time/temperature paprameters though.
Might be looking to develop and scan myself at home soon to save lab costs ... for sure might have to take a look at this one! Thanks Kyle.
You're welcome. Cheers.
I love this. I have about 20 rolls of 35 mm and 120 films that need to be developed. This would make life easier, cheaper in the long run, and makes developing easier. About $350.00 for the U.S. version but I think I need to invest in this.
I'm not sure it actually makes developing any *easier.* Agitating a Paterson tank via the traditional inversion method is boring, but not difficult or onerous... and agitation is the ONLY part of the process that the AGO actually automates. You still have to load the film reels and tank in the dark, mix the chemicals, pour them in and out, remove the film and hang it up to dry, and clean up everything afterward. The video makes it obvious that spillage is still a messy problem. And if you like the "time compensation" method of dealing with temperature changes, you can do it with a thermometer and a chart. The only potential advantage would be that you can be getting the next solution ready while the AGO is agitating the current one... and that's only if you can trust it not to stall, stick, tip the tank off the counter, etc., which we won't know until people accumulate a lot more field experience.
@@jlwilliams exactly, paterson 5 tank will do it in 4 sessions, 30 min each you can have it done a morning.
Just so I understand for sure, does the temperature compensation occur continuously during the development? For example, if the temperature drifts down (or up) during development, does the unit readjust the time as the development cycle proceeds?
Unfortunately not.
@@KyleMcDougall Hmmm! This is a big deficiency in the product, especially if the developer solution is much different from room temperature.
@@KyleMcDougall I don't believe what you said is correct.. According to the product page, it states that "AGO takes care of the rest by continuously monitoring the temperature and automatically adjusting the processing time during the process, guaranteeing consistently perfect negatives with every use."
Yes it does. This is the main purpose of the product.
It looks great, but I really don't understand the drilling out the funnel part. Why does this happen? Maybe they need to ship the product with a drilled out Patterson tank for a little extra. Just seems strange.
It does come with both a pre-modified funnel and the template if you want to modify additional ones.
Yeah, as mentioned I believe you can buy this with a Paterson tank with pre-drilled funnel.
oh ok, sorry, I guess I missed that. My bad. Great vid btw @@KyleMcDougall
Sorry, my bad, I must've missed that point@@randomdesign6304
Curious to see how the device handles Blix popping the lid like it happens sometimes.
There is no lid on there, so nothing to pop off
Yeah, no lid on this, so I'm assuming no issues with BLIX, which is nice.
This looks really great.
Does it work with Caffenol?
Not sure about that.
maybe worth a try? @@KyleMcDougall
Love this!
Simply wow!
This form of temperature modified control is an old idea first implemented by RH Designs from the UK. They did it in a developer timer for prints.
You are actually correct, and its this exactly same thing they seem to have. PROCESS MASTER IIm. It seems to be for prints & film.
I don’t mind the manual process at all when it comes to developing my film. That’s one of the reasons I went back to film because I found myself enjoying the process. Also, this is one of those times when I can truly get away from my phone. Interesting product though.
Me as well I don't process lots of film so the manual process gives me time to myself.
Interesting. Very interesting.
Kyle (or anyone from Vintage Visual): can you use it vertically or does it have to be on its side? Also, what kind of batteries and can they be swapped out?
Thanks for the video. Like this idea a lot.
Yes, it can be used vertically (which requires more chemical volume). Details on their website about that. I believe the batteries can be swapped out, and also it's charged via USB C.
@@KyleMcDougall thanks. I saw that but just read it as a comparison of vertical v horizontal placement.
How can you use less chemical the way it shows? Isn’t the amount of chemical you use fixed to the amount of film you develop rather than the size of the tank?
Rotary processing uses less volume as it's constant agitation.
@@KyleMcDougall right, but there is a finite amount of chemical to react with right?
Very interesting processor. I would prefer a more simple interface. One knob ON Off and the timer. I think too much electronics programs. In the darkroom the hands are usually wet... so touch screens and buttons are not easy to use.
Jobo had this decades ago where the tanks also floated in a temperature controlled water bath.
I don't believe that Jobo has ever had a time/temp compensation feature?
I developed my own film for years and never had a problem with temperature of the chemicals. You always started with the chemicals at the right temp but then just went into the agitation etc. Can't say I even thought it was a problem but would like to hear more about that. Is it when people live in a cold climate?
Temp correct at the start but do you measure the temp at the end? Putting agitation into the chemicals may increase the temp, especially if it’s constant agitation. If temp increases slowly during the process, I’d say it’s good to compensate or you over develop the negs.
Does it support ECN2?
very cool.
One big minus is that AGO supports only nonstandard home kits in C-41. Bellini is a variant of C41 RA, but all the others are nonstandard simplified kits with blix. There is no program for standard C-41 with Fuji or Kodak standard chemistry.
You can add custom times/temps
As much as I love the process of shooting film, scanning my negatives, and the editing process in Lightroom, I just really can’t get myself interested in the idea of developing my own film. I remember when I was in school to become an x-ray technician and I had to learn how to develop my own x-ray films, It just seemed so complicated and tedious. Even now, I’d much rather find a good lab that I trust to develop my film and then I’ll scan them myself at home. Am I alone in this? Haha
Same though the main appeal to developing on your own is cost.
Nope. I’m with you - enjoy the process of shooting/scanning but can’t get into development. But as someone who primarily likes to shoot slide film… the number of labs that still process E-6 grows smaller each year.
It has gotten SO MUCH better with the new chemical process. I'd really give it another go if I were you (but everyone is different). :)
@@ButtCookiesee I'm slightly opposite. I like shooting and developing and seeing the results. It's fun to me. But I really don't enjoy the scanning process, even doing it with a DSLR setup. I kind of run out of patience during the scanning process.
Boy am I tired of processing my own film but boy oh BOY do I know for certain that I cannot afford to outsource the amount of film I shoot 😢
When I opened the video I knew this was gonna be a cool product but with a "niece" price, meaning overpriced... but holy shit... 320 bucks for an ealry bird and now 440?!?!?! That's just beyond insane, it's just crazy... let's be honest, it's a 20 dollars PCB with a motor and a thermometer attached to it, the display is probably the most expensive part... it shouldn't cost more than 150, and even that would be borderline overpriced. The lab I go to charges €12 for developing and digitalization, if I shoot a roll of 35mm a month, I can develop more than 2 years of film at my lab and still save money! With the new price I can go for 3 years and still have money left!!! It's just insane... the idea is very cool, but people need to calm down and realize that some of the prices they're asking for these simple little products are just off the roof...
$350 is way cheaper than a Jobo, not a bad idea... will have to look into in the future.
Just hope the product is built for longevity. You're not going to want to return this for a service or repair
I'll pass....
To keep my mind active i'll continue to process my own film and enjoy the process...
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This ❤
Can’t wrap my head around how drilling the funnel wouldn’t result in light getting in?
I was thinking the same. It is obvious the person who created this producto thought about it, it is just a matter of people start using it to hear their results and how well the final product works.
He mentioned it forms a sort of seal, i assume that means a light seal of sorts? Just a guess
@@michaelkammeyer no the seal he mentioned in the video is so that the tank can lie down like that and not pour out all the liquid, like a gasket
Not sure, but I would imagine it was a well-thought-out and calculated idea.
Holes are drilled to top part of the funnel, in a region where light gets in any way.
AGO Film Processor
$338 USD...yeah I'm good on that bro.
Cheapest in its class
Did the manufacturers remember that Kodak have priced thousands of photographers out of film photography?
Good thing other companies make film
@@goldenhourkodak: Do they? Other manufacturers make Portra 400 and Tri-X.
i got to the page and thought it was $90,000
This would be great at $50. But $350? That's insane.
A Job is over $1000. All you really need to keep temperature consistent is a sous vide though.
Don't think you're going to have much luck finding anything like this for $50.
Buddy, for $50 you can't develop 5 rolls..
It's a few dollars worth of plastic and electronics - the Chinese could crank it out for $5, and sell it for $50.
Unless the AGO people have their own factory, that's where it's coming from anyway.
@@mikesmith-po8nd a mold alone is like $10,000 for the company to make and then they usually have to have an order of 10,000 units to get the price reasonable.
Filmomat light is better and only a little more $
Isn't it a bit useless in general? An automated agitator and a thermometer? For 400e???? What am I missing here? If it automated chemicals in and out, it would've been an interesting product that justifies the price... now you still have to manually do everything except agitation and you have to keep this thing on top of your tank.... and take care that you don't spill any chemicals on it... and change it's batteries....
Where else will you find a device that develops your film at the perfect time all on it's own? No need to maintain perfect temperature.
So they reached out to you but its not a sponsored video? So you will be sending it back to them? I thought the kickback was you kept the product after review? So it is a sponsored review!
Nope, this is going back to them. Not sponsored.
@@KyleMcDougall Thank for responding.
Having to drill the funnel is a non-starter
I see you can get a predrilled funnel. Good.
Yes you can. I believe they do a package with a Paterson tank.
I dont see how this thing helps. Id rather have full controll over the dev process. Its not hard to flip a tank. Seems like a silly gimmick.
I hate to be a downer, but, all those chemicals you flush down the toilet or pour down the sink after development can't be good for the environment. I am glad people are still shooting on film and developing their own negs, but it's something to think about.
Yes, it's a good point. Nowadays I put them all into old storage bottles and take them to the hazardous waste disposal.
@@KyleMcDougall I propose you make a video on educating the do-it-yourself'ers on this topic. They should be responsible if they are going to develop their own negs (which they should). Keep making great videos, by the way. I enjoy your channel.
So, it`s just a motor with a timer for 350EUR😂😂😂
Can you say processor correctly please?
I cannot