When Does a Believer Receive the Holy Spirit? - Ask Pastor Tim
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- Does the Christian receive the Holy Spirit the moment they believe? If so, how should we understand the accounts in the book of Acts when believers apparently receive the Holy Spirit subsequent to their conversion?
Text: Acts 8:14-17
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I was an atheist for years but I was a good person. Always watched what I would speak and always had the best interest in not causing harm amongst others. I got rid of social media for almost two years along with watching tv cuz those things just didn’t satisfy me any longer because all I saw was the bs they were spitting out that most can not see. I was also fasting and haven’t fornicated for 16 months. I also have gotten rid of a lot of old stuff that were only a burden because they held a lot of old memories. One night in my car, something came over me and myself manifested out of me sorta like a double image of me right in my plain view and that me was very dark and unhealthy and that me was killed and pierced with what seemed to be some kinda Fire of an arrow head or a spear that came down from up above and killed that manifestation of me. Right after that, I just wept and felt totally changed and sinning wasn’t a hard battle to do. My heart and whole being felt so free and light that even my singing went from a level 3 up to a level 9 in half a year. The experience made me a softer man in physical action but a convicted one in His deeds. Most friends and family couldn’t understand me and said that I have changed so much and they even find me boring because I don’t partake in their activities because my insides feels uneasy when surrounded by ungodly sights and sounds. Thank you Abba, Father for the second chance! Thank you Lord of Lords Jesus Christ for the everlasting love! Thank you also to the Comforter/Holy Spirit for saving me from my own darkness!
Great testimony, praise Jesus Christ our Lord and savior, the only way to life everlasting.
Amen
My name is Joseph and I am asking to receive the reality, tangibility and actuality of Jesus.
He died for me BUT I AM YET TO SEE this reality.
I ask for His Spirit and Power.
I ASK THAT MY FAMILY AND MYSELF BE SET FREE FROM WITCHCRAFT THAT HAD TAKEN THE LIVES OF MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY.
Thanks
"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 14:17
Thanks for sharing, God bless!
We have the spirit of Christ as a promise that once we believe with all our hearts, and all our being - He will always be with us. Fear not! We are advised not to worry about anything including death - because He is with us, and will help us get through it.
Valerie Hayes
No, it’s not automatic. The Holy Spirit dwells within us all after Christ’s crucifixion but that doesn’t meant anything if you cant let Him out/manifest and be one with its consciousness. Here’s mine: I was an atheist for years but I was a good person. Always watched what I would speak and always had the best interest in not causing harm amongst others. I got rid of social media for almost two years along with watching tv cuz those things just didn’t satisfy me any longer because all I saw was the bs they were spitting out that most can not see. I was also fasting and haven’t fornicated for 16 months. I also have gotten rid of a lot of old stuff that were only a burden because they held a lot of old memories. One night in my car, something came over me and myself manifested out of me sorta like a double image of me right in my plain view and that me was very dark and unhealthy and that me was killed and pierced with what seemed to be some kinda Fire of an arrow head or a spear that came down from up above and killed that manifestation of me. Right after that, I just wept and felt totally changed and sinning wasn’t a hard battle to do. My heart and whole being felt so free and light that even my singing went from a level 3 up to a level 9 in half a year. The experience made me a softer man in physical action but a convicted one in His deeds. Most friends and family couldn’t understand me and said that I have changed so much and they even find me boring because I don’t partake in their activities because my insides feels uneasy when surrounded by ungodly sights and sounds. Thank you Abba, Father for the second chance! Thank you Lord of Lords Jesus Christ for the everlasting love! Thank you also to the Comforter/Holy Spirit for saving me from my own darkness!
@@ruacharyeh9655 There no such thing S good person btw none good none righteous
I just shared this with and challenged all the women at my church to pray daily for this! Praise Jesus!!! I know this power and it is AWESOME!!!!
This is a whole new revelation for me! Thank you brother!!
Anabela 5i
Thank you for this study! I was struggling with this for a long time. While listening to you this verse came to mind:
John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Spirit:
We are advised to pray for knowledge and wisdom - and that God's wisdom is more valuable than gold. We can only apply God's wisdom in our lives because of the Holy Spirit.
This may explain why I have had a complete change in heart but I have never had the revelation of speaking in tongues! Praise God!
Maxwell Hufford the Bible says that not everyone will have the same gifts in the spirit. That’s the point of being unified in the body. So that everyone’s gift may benefit the body. And remember that God gives gifts according to what He decides in the measure He decides
Acts 19:1-7
1 And it happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the inlanda country and came to Ephesus. There he found some disciples. 2 And he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” 3 And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” They said, “Into John’s baptism.” 4 And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.” 5 On hearing this, they were baptized inb the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking in tongues and prophesying. 7 There were about twelve men in all.
Wonderful passages that speak of the power and work of the Holy Spirit! However the question was “When does a believer receive the Holy Spirit?” I believe I heard this question answered with “at the moment they believe” but without any Scriptural evidence unless I missed it. I believe Acts 2:38 is very clear as to when a believer receives the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 1:13 states when we receive the holy spirit today. It is when we believe. Acts was a descriptive book not a prescriptive book. There were 6 different ways the Jews received the Spirit in the book of Acts. I believe it is Acts 15 where Peter realizes that the Jews would now be given the Spirit in the same manner as the gentiles, through believing only.
May God bless this channel
Thanks, this was a timely Message 4 me. Thank you Holy Spirit & thanks Pastor
I was seriously questioning and doubting whether or not I had the Holy Spirit becuase of a false teaching I had heard on youtube from a youtuber I trusted, and this video was literally a God send. Thank you so much for this sound answer, and guidance towards sound doctrine. Praise be to God.
We can only talk about Jesus or testify of Jesus if the Holy Spirit is in us, that's what Paul is trying to say.
You cannot testify of Jesus if the Holy Spirit is not in you, because the Holy Spirit is the witness of the truth.
Amazing first time hearing this
God is love.
Hello Tim Conway, thank you for the blessing in sharing of this topic! I like that you mention all about (what seems) contradictory verses about receiving the Holy Spirit! Yes its hard to swallow by believer but its really there in our bible ^^
I recently being opened more about this by His grace and what you said is kind of in tune of what I get.
Before the receiving of Holy Spirit in Acts, yes we see the disciples are already His sheep, and even Jesus said the all clean except Judas (when He washed their feet)!
But on the other side bible said that they receive Holy Spirit later on Acts 2 + the Holy Spirit not yet come because Jesus not yet glorified. They surely not 'receiving' it as God want they to receive. The Samaritan in Acts 8 too.. stated as 'Holy Spirit not yet fall upon them'.
I believe both is true! And hope God will reveal more about this to me. Thank you for your ministry Jesus bless you more!
You can be led astray. I was led astray and stopped believing in the trinity. I believe again now. I felt my heart pounding.
Romans 8, Ez 36, Titus 3. Clear indeed. The Spirit is in ALL who believe!!
We are warned about the "accuser of the brethren".
I know this Once you Truly believed in Christ your life starting to change The Lord will cleanse you from your idols you once love and He will continue to do that. I Praise God that He actually do it When He says He will do it. And I believe you must have the Holy Spirit to do it. That's what's happening in my life anyway. Because I know my former life.
Being born again means getting an gift sent by God to help you on your jounery . And change. Jesus Christ said im his Pride and possession.
Anyone knows where i can find some material of this pastor named Keith Mc Cloud? Pastor Tim mentions him at the end of the video
The new heart is spiritually. Its like being chosen by God. God likes whats been done in which the spirit goes into the person God sends the spirit too. I have the great firey heart. The people dont though.
Hi, I think that you skipped the question of act 8. You cannot answer to the case of acts 8 by dealing with the case of acts 19 because they are not the same.
It's obvious that in acts 19, there is a problem in the understanding of the gospel, that is why they are not yet saved until Paul rebaptise them meaning that surely he explained the gospel of Christ (you cannot be saved by a confused message of the gospel; just knowing the baptism of John means that your understanding of the gospel is incomplete)
But in acts 8, they received the Good gospel (unless you think philipp did not knew the gospel?!) And the fact is that the only one difference when peter and John came, is the fact that they just prayed and layed hands: no more explanation of the gospel since they had already received the gospel and as simple as it is said, For as yet He (the spirit) had fallen upon none of them. They had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus
So I'm not convinced by your answer pastor therefor, my understanding of this text of acts 8 is as simple, as literal as we read it, and I do not see the contradiction with the other texts like John 3 or romans 8:9 etc...
Just some can receive the spirit at the same time they believe, as cornelius, other after like the 12, or like in acts 8 (even though it's not the most frequent in the bible) But one thing is sure: the one Who really believe is saved or shall be saved
I grew up in the Church of Christ. In a preacher's family. It wasn't until the Spirit started actively convicting me that I realized that there is a doctrine of _cessasionism_ here. One of the huge intellectual barricades they use to justify this is Acts 8. The theory goes that because it took a laying on of hands _by the Apostles_ therefor when the Apostles all died off, there was no one who could pass on the gift anymore.
Of course, that complety bypasses and ignores the fact that just two chapters later, Peter _witnessed_ people receiving the Spirit _before_ anyone had laid hands on them.
The whole point of God pushing Peter to head to Samaria to check things out wasn't that the new believers _needed_ the Apostles... it was a lesson for _Peter_ to show him first hand that even the Samaritans were being accepted by God, a stepping stone to his revelation with Cornelius and the Romans.
Apparently that wasn't the end of it and Peter struggled with it for a while, and Paul shares with us that time he had to reprimand Peter for it...
Galatians 2:11-14 NLT - But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong. When he first arrived, he ate with the Gentile Christians, who were not circumcised. But afterward, when some friends of James came, Peter wouldn’t eat with the Gentiles anymore. He was afraid of criticism from these people who insisted on the necessity of circumcision. As a result, other Jewish Christians followed Peter’s hypocrisy, and even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. When I saw that they were not following the truth of the gospel message, I said to Peter in front of all the others, “Since you, a Jew by birth, have discarded the Jewish laws and are living like a Gentile, why are you now trying to make these Gentiles follow the Jewish traditions?
Peter readily accepts the chastisement, and even commends Paul in _his_ last epistle...
2 Peter 3:15-16 NLT - And remember, our Lord’s patience gives people time to be saved. This is what our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom God gave him- speaking of these things in all of his letters. Some of his comments are hard to understand, and those who are ignorant and unstable have twisted his letters to mean something quite different, just as they do with other parts of Scripture. And this will result in their destruction.
*[[1Pe **1:22**-23/KJV]]* %v 22% Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: %v 23% Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Acts shows 3 groups of people who came to belief and received the Spirit in three different ways (I was told because how they treated the Lord): Jews, Samaritans, Gentiles.
I believe, and have been baptised, and yet to feel the holy spirit. I want it but finding it difficult.
Have you sinned since becoming a believer? If we're honest with ourselves we sin. I'm not saying we're a slave to sin but we do sin.
Paul says don't grieve the Holy Spirit.
I believe we know the differance between human sorrow and Holy Spirit grieving within us.
@@eagleclan75 probably, but i pray and read scripture.
And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
Luke 24:49 KJV
Keep asking and wait
Hi Tim, I think you misquoted John 14
*[[Joh **14:17**/KJV]]* Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
What can you say about:
*[[Joh **20:22**/KJV]]* And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Romans 10:17 KJV
ACTS 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
"If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15 KJV
"In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise," Ephesians 1:13 KJV
"The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit." John 3:8 KJV
"The fining pot is for silver, and the furnace for gold: but the LORD trieth the hearts." Proverbs 17:3 KJV
Jesus Christ the Son of God died on the cross for all the sins you've ever committed and if you believe and put your trust in Him you will live forever in heaven
After true repentance from sins, the Holy Spirit will be given to the person who believes and accepts Jesus as Lord and Saviour. Then the Spirit guides and teaches the man to grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ.
KJV -- 2 Cor. 1:22 - Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
*Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers*
(22) Who hath also sealed us.-Better, who also sealed us. The thought thus expressed is that the gift of the Spirit, following on baptism or the laying on of hands, is as the seal of the covenant which God makes with His people, attesting its validity. (Comp. Ephesians 1:13; Ephesians 4:30; and, for the Jewish use of seals, Jeremiah 32:10.)
And given the earnest of the Spirit.-Better, for the same reason as before, gave. The Greek word for “earnest” (arrhabôn), which occurs here for the first time, and is used only by St. Paul in the New Testament (2Corinthians 5:5; Ephesians 1:14), has a somewhat interesting history. Originally a Hebrew word, from a verb meaning “to mix,” “to change,” “to pledge,” and so used, as a cognate noun, with the last of the three senses, it appears simply transliterated in the LXX. of Genesis 38:17-18. It would seem to have been in common use among the Canaanite or Phoenician traders, and was carried by them to Greece, to Carthage, to Alexandria, and to Rome. It was used by the Greek orator Isæus, and by Plautus and Terence among the earlier Latin writers. The full form came to be considered somehow as pedantic or vulgar, and was superseded in Roman law by the shortened “arrha,” the payment of a small sum given on the completion of a bargain as a pledge that the payer would fulfil the contract; and it has passed into Italian as “arra;” into modern French, as “les arrhes;” into popular Scotch even, as “arles.” As applied by St. Paul, it had the force of a condensed parable, such as the people of commercial cities like Corinth and Ephesus would readily understand. They were not to think that their past spiritual experience had any character of finality. It was rather but the pledge of yet greater gifts to come: even of that knowledge of God which is eternal life (John 17:3). The same thought is expressed, under a more Hebrew image, in the “firstfruits of the Spirit” in Romans 8:23. Grammatically, the “earnest of the Spirit” may be taken as an example of the genitive of apposition, “the earnest which is the Spirit.”
I’m so lost because when I gave my life to GOD few month ago, I had so much joy and hope and I looked forward to his return. I got into some bad doctrine and doubt and I feel like I lost my faith. I’m so lost.
Same lost been deceived Keep Doubting now idk anymore
You can lose something if you never owned it.
Evelin Yeshua the way would you like to exchange numbers?
@@Mymimemei I'll give you my gmail And my phone in my gmail idk if it makes sense
evelinmartin390@gmail.com
keep fight happening to me but i never give up run to Jesus even tho you don’t feel it
We are sealed by the Holy Spirit, which to me means that in the spiritual world, it is how we are known.
John 14:17 the Lord told the apostles that the Holy Spirit was with them and would be in them, not the other way around. The Word also says that he that hath not the Spirit of Christ is none of his" ( Rom. 8:5 ). The Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit which wasn't poured out until the day of Pentecost. So the apostles having believed and been water baptized were in the process of being saved but were not because the still needed the Holy Spirit infilling to be " born of the Spirit ".
Being saved is a process because it's not just about going to heaven and avoiding hell but being born again. Just as physical conception to actual birth involves a process so does recieving the " seed" of the Word to actual rebirth
Dear brother, I think you miss the point: in the catholic and jacobite perspectives, the holy spirit is received at the baptism. All the passage you quoted (John 3.5 ; Titus ; Ezechiel 36 etc ) can be interpreted on a baptismal regeneration POW
Berger Charles cathloic are not really Christians and more then 90% of them don't read the bible
The instant the believer makes the decision to accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour the Holy Spirit enters the believer. When the believer asks for the baptism of the Holy Spirit and by faith starts speaking the believer will speak in tongues.
That's not biblical, not all people in the bible spoke in tongues after receiving the holy spirit. Read all of 2nd Corinthians. Maybe even 1st Corinthians. God gives spiritual gifts as he pleases.
not true not everyone has the gift of tounges
@@LitoLochoss 1Cor. 12:30
The moment he believes. I may be wrong.
His name should be pronounced "me-dhu-n". Jacobite Christians are Oriental Orthodox Christians in Southern state of Kerala, India. Patriarch of ANTIOCH is considered their apostolic head.
I would've never known that. Are you from that part of the world?
yes bro. now in singapore.
Blessings from New Jersey.
If tongues has ceased after Pentecost why were many people speaking in tongues after Pentecost such as I?
Because most of the are faking them sir
Is it possible for someone to not know they are speaking by demon(s)?
Eric If you mean Christians, then I would have to say that no Christian could be speaking by the power of a demon (if that’s what you meant), because no Christian can be in-dwelt by a demon (see www.gotquestions.org/Christian-demon-possessed.html)
If we are talking about people who *profess* to be Christians, but who doesn’t have genuine saving faith, I believe yes, they can very well be speaking by demons and never know it.
What is this pasters surname
Tiny Lewis Conway
"I came to the conclusion" he states.... is the problem. When we rely on scripture only and our own personal interpretation, we will always have disunity in the Church. I experienced the gift of the grave through the Holy Spirit but I truly did loose it when I deliberately sinned days later. Monks have written about this experience. We are truly continually saved and we are "BEING" saved (Paul says this: " For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are BEING saved it is the power of God." ) it isn't a ONE TIME experience. James 2:24 "King James Bible:
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." Spoiler alert, Mary also did not have other children. "...until..." in the verse about her coming together with Joseph had another meaning in Greek. She truly is a "Perpetual virgin", crossing yourself is an ancient Christian tradition... icons have no good argument against them...the 1st 7 ecumenical councils are actually infallible if one believes the Bible when it is said about the Church being the pillar and ground of truth and that it truly would not be destroyed by Satan. Either you can deny scripture and Church History and church fathers.....and rely on your own interpretation......or you do your homework and incorporate yourself into the one true body of Christ! (Former baptist......) this is a lot to unpack but it's YOUR salavtion...salvation... out your own salvation with FEAR and TREMBLING!
I was baptized but not in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I don’t think I’ve been born of the Spirit. Maybe I don’t have saving faith. I felt like I had the Spirit because I was delivered from sexual sin but I don’t have this overwhelming love for God and Christ. Maybe because I had some doubt that’s I had committed the unpardonable sin.
Your baptism isn't valid.
Joshua Theo excuse me, how about a word of encouragement. Be Christlike. There are those of us trying better our relationship with Jesus and seek true salvation.
Joshua Theo also how would you know?
@@Mymimemei a baptism administered in any other name than in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit is not a valid baptism.
Joshua Theo I got baptized in the name of Jesus
Eastern Orthodoxy is the closest to what the Church Fathers teach as early as 51 AD. Irenaeus (taught by Polycarp) and Polycarp (who was taught by apostle John himself) factually, we must "put on Christ" in BAPTISM. This is an Orthodox, ancient tradition. "Acts 2:38 Repent and be baptized for the remission of sins and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost" in Acts 9, Paul believed but did not receive the HS until he visited Ananias where he was baptized. If we look at scripture only....Sola scriptora...scripture... are missing key information. Iraneaus (30-100AD) says this "or the baptism instituted by the visible Jesus was for the remission of sins, but the redemption brought in by that Christ who descended upon Him, was for perfection; and they allege that the former is animal, but the latter spiritual. And the baptism of John was proclaimed with a view to repentance, but the redemption by Jesus was brought in for the sake of perfection."
Is this man also a calvinist?.
smazzinga no.. Then this man is also a heretic same with paul washer..
@@ghostemane4584 Why is he a heretic? Also why is Paul washer a heretic, I see a few people saying this. Thanks
A Calvinist believes that God has predestined a few to believe and that we don’t even have free-will to choose to become a believer! Basically the rest is doomed to hell and Jesus died for a few!
OK, you receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior after you repent of your sins and place your faith and trust in Jesus Christ then, you receive the Holy Spirit. OK now you don’t need to listen to the sermon
Doug N What you said is misleading, people do need to watch this because so many people miss interpret a few scriptures or dont quite understand. Watching this sermon has given me a better understanding on how the Holy Spirit works.
Doug N , repentance and faith are gifts from God. We can't manifest these gifts on our own apart from the Spirit. They are given by God as an act of mercy upon us. PRAISE THE LORD!
Bro you missed the whole huge message. God resisteth the prideful and gives grace to the humble. This message is so much more than just what you have said
You need the Spirit for repeating from sin.
Repent to God means changing the mind about God.
Tim Conway has it wrong. The Scriptures do not say unbelievers can say, "Jesus is Lord" as he erroniously stated. It says they will say to Jesus, "Lord, Lord" as in at the Judgement seat people will attempt to plead with God to let them into heaven. Because they are talking to God about their life, Matthew 7v22 "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?" The Scriptures rightly say that 1 Corinthians 12v3 " 3Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost." There is a great difference between emphatically declaring by the Spirit living within, "Jesus is the Lord" and lost sinners appearing before God on judgment day and saying "Lord" to God/Jesus to appeal to him to let you into heaven. They already died and stand before God. Be careful about false prophets/teachings. Take God/Jesus at Their Word, believe and have faith, faith by which you can extinguish the fiery darts of the enemy.
_Unbelievers_ are going to come to Jesus claiming to have _prophesied_ and cast out _demons_ in His Name? Not very likely.
Luke 11:35 NLT - Make sure that the light you think you have is not actually darkness. #Jesus #quote