In Detroit we are already seeing people coming in from California and the pacific areas, many were here originally who moved back, but there’s also been some newcomers. It’s not surprising with all the freshwater, abundant resources, great culture, the rejuvenation of the city, excellent Parks and Recreation and still relatively affordable real estate, plus the state of Michigan is beautiful with thousands of lakes, hiking , skiing and cottage areas In the climatic swings are much less than what you’re seeing in other parts of the country
I'll be moving to Detroit too in the next 6 months. Downtown was very nice. I also explored the residential areas in Wayne County. There is some blight but I see areas are being worked one. I love the old historical homes. I will be buying a home while these houses are still affordable before the migration rush like what happened to FL, TX and AZ.
@@sbostic08 ,Detroit is a Great Town and you will like it I’m quite sure, great culture , museums, pro sports, outdoor activities, Belle Isle, great restaurants too, the downtown and midtown areas are really renovating beautifully, tons of construction , expansion and renovation. There are certainly some bad neighborhoods in the city still though ,but just stay away from them, the suburbs go on forever with numerous nice areas also, you also have to remember Canada is only five minutes away across the Detroit River also. The area has lots to offer, It’s also very diverse, accepting and very nice people overall.
Relatively affordable rent until you get completely Californicated like Seattle, Portland, Austin, Denver, Salt Lake City. I’d people keep moving there en masse as they are now, expect real estate prices to skyrocket.
For the water managers that work in the desert South west, please do not join the water control boards in the great lakes regions. You will screw the great lakes over like how the desert southwest was.
I figured the biggest thing screwing over the water supply in the southwest was the climate. Oh, and the people. Why the hell do people think they can have lush, green grass in a literal desert?
@@seanwilliams7655 ? The climate and the growth. I'm in Central Texas, just northwest of Austin. There are 3 new subdivisions this year, 12 in the past 5 years, and a GIANT one (20K homes) being planned, all within 5 miles of me. So we aren't getting as much rain as we used to, and what little we do get has to now be shared with hundreds of thousands of people moving in. It won't be long before we're all fvcked here. Hopefully by then, I'll be long gone.
I hope they do upgrade their infrastructure, and sensibly, for example, with public transportation, mixed-use development or multi-unit dwellings, water recycling, and green spaces. Stop paving and start planting!
@@sallyf3080 I think that will the least of your worries. If they are really moving there by the Scads I would have to believe that we have some eco collapses going going down. I lived in the Midwest growing up, it's really hard to go back. Lots of nice people but lots of overt christianity like we're suffering via the supreme court--so Women will be thinking very hard about not moving to RED areas.
@@jeremyserwer2586 the eco collapse is already going down in CA, NV. We didn't want to live through another fire season, so my family moved our young children and business to Indiana. The cost of housing here is such a deal. We don't have a problem with Christians being overt with their faith and I'd never kill my own baby so it's working out great for us.
Don't listen to these people, if you run out of water move to Florida they have lots of water. OK it's salt water and in a few years it will be in your living room but salt water soaks are good for the feet.
Yes- very good points. Pay no attention to those saying that no water is in AZ or NV. Just dig deeper and enjoy the bone warming aspects of these arid places
Lived in the Midwest and ended up relocating to Las Vegas for work. With Lake Mead water levels dropping I have made up my mind and decided to move back. Miss the seasons anyway.
@@blackbird2839I mean down there is ridiculous heat and high ac bill in the summer. Bad weather is unavoidable you just choose which you prefer to tolerate.
@@cynicalcindy1434 The Jet Stream is getting stretched much greater then in decades past. The Jet stream is like a wall. It resist the southward march of the Polar Vortex break out and keeps the southern latitudes warmer. But the February Polar Vortex is being pushed out of orbit more often and is breaking apart some times in more then one vortex. Two years ago, it was pushed out of orbit and it traveled all the way to the tip of Texas. It caused the temperatures in the state to frop from -1 to -15F. The electrical grid collapsed and hundreds of people died from Hyperthermia.
My family and I are part of the climigration from Arizona to the Pacific Northwest as we've suffered massive wildfires every year, drastic water shortages and rising temps. We'll see A LOT of people in the Southwest U.S. migrate to the Great Lakes and Northeast regions, and some to the PNW.
The pacific Nw gets choked out by wildfire smoke every year. My friend has to evacuate his home every year because the fires come so close. Sometimes I wonder if I’m even on the same planet anymore. Some of the comments under this video. I’ve lived all over the country and traveled extensively and often for work for the last 15 years. Mind blown by how far off base some of these comments are!
The expected total of Canada at the end of this century is 100 million, it is at 40 million now. Unlike the American great lake cities Toronto has been growing quickly for the last 50 years. When in the 60s it might have been compared to Buffalo now it has just passed Chicago in metro population. Ontario has not had the terrible losses experienced by US cities along the border but has been steadily growing. not just in the big cities but small towns also. THe big bones of the American cities are not there in Canada it is building them for the first time. The niche theory of climate with climate change put the central niche, which is currently about at Virginia, at the great lakes or in other words very roughly 400 miles north. For Canada the real question will be can larger populations be established in the north given much of it is Canadian Shield and unsuitable for agriculture even with improved climate..
We live in New Mexico as well and are considering leaving in the next few years. The drought is severe and yet construction is BOOMING. We don’t have what we need to support an influx of new residents. We’re considering moving to the southeast where I grew up. Yeah, we’ll see some hurricanes but eh I can deal lol
Makes the case for great lakes cities. But why do they highlight Indianapolis and Ann Arbor that are not on the Great Lakes but fail to mention Cleveland and Milwaukee? Indianapolis isn't even in the Great Lakes basin, for crying out loud.
They probably own real estate in Ann Arbor and Duluth and are pumping it. Personally I think Cleveland and Milwaukee, two towns that are on the down and out, are more promising in many ways.
Indy is only a couple hours from the lakes, close enough to be a second choice as the lake shore gets more expensive. And Ann Arbor is in the middle of the Michigan peninsula. Not on the lake but still in the watershed with a lake influenced climate
Severe storms and even tornadoes are becoming a more common occurance in the Great Lakes Region. As far as an influx of migrants, the cities around the lakes are even now unable to curb city and farm pollution, and a large increase of migrants will only spell troubles for an already strained eco system.
"Severe storms and even tornadoes are becoming a more common occurance" The opposite is true. Take Michigan, for example. It had one F5 tornado and four F4 tornadoes in the 1950s, and six F4 tornadoes in the 1960s, and not a single F4 or F5 since 1967. The last F4 or F5 tornado was 55 years ago.
All Americans who live on the coasts and the South would hate the Plains, Midwest and Ohio Valley. Cold winters, hot/humid summers and no social ammenities. Better they all just stay away and be happier where they are.
Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, Toledo, Grand Rapids, all these cities can take more people, they have a lot less people than they did a couple of decades ago. The midwest can take more people. A lot of microchip factories are being built in Arizona when they should be built in the midwest since they require a lot of water, don't build them in Arizona which is facing a water crisis. I believe one is being built in Cleveland but most are being built in Arizona. Build them in Cleveland or whatever city on the great lakes.
Not all midwestern cities have direct access to the Great Lakes’ water. There are existing borders that limit who can draw GL water and, as I understand it, these only include the GL watershed. The US and Canada strive to maintain water levels for shipping commerce so this fresh water is not without limits.
Where l live part of the city is in the Mississippi watershed. But most is in the Great Lakes. Waste water is pumped back up over the divide for treatment. Actually most of the Great Lakes watershed is in Canada.
I'd prefer they didn't advertise the Great Lakes region. We have 300 acres upstream at the top of a valley surrounded by Crown Lands. We've seen more rain and more snow with climate change and scientists have been warning local governments that we'll see a lot more. But we've also seen more extreme muggier summers and harsher winters. Past 20 years very rich people have been buying up land around the lakes in Muskoka and construction buddies are seeing a lot of these massive lake houses being built have included underground bunkers, tennis courts, indoor pools (there's a sparkling clean fresh water lake right there), helicopter landing pads, and other bizarre stuff. They way they started buying as a trickle in the 90's and then it became a flood of celebrities and very rich people, there's that sinking feeling they had access to information about climate change before everyone else because they've been driving up the cost of land in areas that we used to buy for cheap. They don't interact with locals and they don't contribute to the local economy. Who buys land in a quiet peaceful place and then uses a big speed boat or helicopter to get around?
@@runningfromabear8354 They need to invest in desalination instead of moving here and over populating. I don't get why Abu Dhabi can do desalination on a mass scale but the western state's of the U.S can't. When it comes to water, high cost's doesn't matter just do it
@@runningfromabear8354 No, the rich people don't have access to secret information, at least in this case, but they pay attention and have the money to act. I already live in an area that is supposed to be climate secure, so I guess I'm lucky.
My hometown is Buffalo, I hate shoveling snow so I’m in Las Vegas. It’s getting to the tipping point of drought here. Lake Mead is drying up in this 20 year drought yet people keep moving here. Mostly from California, but from the rust belt also.
I’m still here in WNY. We just went through a seven week drought, but today it rained for hours on end bringing life back to the gardens and lawn. Yeah snow sucks, but I hate the heat and love the rest of our seasons.
@@cpmiller1965 pretty fucking identical weather in NE Ohio weeks on end of basically no rain though heat hasnt been awful and it rained a good 36 hours none stop such a shame this storm wasnt in the winter cause i would have been dumped on with 2+ feet of snow
It's already starting. Lots of new people moving to Michigan this year. It's been all over the local news and papers. I don't blame them. Affordable living, strong job market, and the best weather in the country from May to Mid October.
The best weather in the county? Not during the summer months. My idea of ideal weather doesn’t include the frequent 80s and 90s seen in the Great Lakes region this summer. Unless one is fortunate enough to live directly on one of the lakes with a prevailing onshore flow, it is most definitely NOT comfortable. Here on Puget Sound in Washington, we have far more comfortable days. I’ve only had to crank up my AC two times thus far this summer. Plus we have the Pacific Ocean and high mountains to head to for relief when it does get hot. Unfortunately, the Pacific Northwest will be getting its share of climate refugees as well.
@@Patrick_Ross frequent 90’s isn’t true. We’ve only had a handful this year in Michigan. Washington is much too cool and cloudy and rainy for me. Seattle saw multiple 60 degree days in July this year. Too chilly. Plus, I’d miss the beautiful snow. Not a fan of cold rain during the winter. But to each their own :)
@@Patrick_Ross Don't live by a lake in the midwest, the Mosquitos will kill you, no joke. Stay in WA, I've lived in both places and the Midwest is a rough ride, culturally--its extremely christian in many places accept the big cities and the summers are brutal with humidity. The winters are great though. You will miss the Mountains and Ocean terribly!
@@Patrick_Ross even if it’s true that there’s many 80s and 90 days the Great Lakes it is better than Texas now over 45 days of triple digits and that’s not normal. I don’t live in Texas anymore but I’ve heard from people who do.
Everybody moving to the Great Lakes area has made a great decision, but...............The weather is a major player in life there. Winters are cold and below zero temperatures are normal. Snow comes early November and leaves late April. Snowfall is measured in feet. Spring comes late, summer is short, and fall is long. I have lived in west Michigan and Northeast Ohio.
@@craiggillett5985 Actually, the utilities in Ohio are very reasonable and the construction of homes takes in to account insulation. Michigan gets more snow and cold, but home construction is top notch. The Great Lakes, rivers, streams are teeming with all sorts of game fish. Fall harvest is fantastic. Plenty of water. Life is full of trade offs.
Moving to these Great Lakes cities is depressing to us who were born and raised in Southern California and live in Los Angeles with lots of sunshine, beaches and mountain communities nearby, and wealthy suburban neighborhoods. I would rather die here in California than flee to another part of the country.
@@Cwgrlup I was stationed in California and hated it. Earthquakes, fires, Homeless, crazies in Frisco, traffic in LA, mud slides, Democrats, just awful. I hope your wish is granted.
@@Cwgrlup I almost fell out of my chair when the video said one of the draws to the great lakes region is the mild temperatures. In every other way it looks like a great place to live.
Maybe there was a reason, the Great Lakes, was where a lot of the US Population use to live before technology made it EASY to live other places. As the climate changes, like it always has, and always will. Every so many years people will migrate to a better location. I grew up in Akron, Ohio during the down swing of the Rubber Capital.
Right.. so the overwhelming evidence of rapid, catastrophic climate change caused by exponential increases in CO2 and methane since the industrial revolution is actually not true? Because you have 'special' information and the special ability to see through all the lies? Got it. 👌
Ive visited several cities in that region and i found the area pretty nice. The people were basically solid and hardworking and nice after they got to know you a bit. If climate is warming then the freezing winters should start to moderate some. I prefer hot weather and will stay in central Texas but the great lakes may be a good option for many folks. Yall have a great day!
I grew up in Ohio. Back in the 90s we used to have snow on the ground from Thanksgiving to early March. Now it might snow for a day and then rain the next and melt it all away. So the winters are getting milder.
GR is great! Although I prefer to live in sunnier and warmer SE Mich because the economy is stronger and wages are much higher and there's more to do from sports to concerts. And then drive 1 hour to Lake Huron or 2 hours to Lake Michigan whenever I want. Pure Michigan!
Not only people from US will be looking for places to move, but also people in Central America and South America. Even people from other continents like Asia and Africa will be looking for safer places. If the Great Lakes region is to receive an influx of climate migrants, they will come from all over the world, hundreds of millions of them.
The great lakes region isn't all its cracked up to be. I worked out of shitcago and grand rapids, all over that area, up and down. Detroit, etc. It is mostly run down, remember Flint? Those folks are still having water issues. You could take a bulldozer to 3/4's of it all and push it into a hole. People are leaving for a reason. Its gonna be another west coast in a few years. Seattle will be a paradise compared to this.
Detroit, I think the central suburbs on the western side is where the future lies, there’s lots of abandoned neighbourhoods ( bare land ) but there’s also some intact 1930’s-50’s beautiful neighbourshoods, large family homes, good schools and some mid century neighbourhoods with large lots…. Literally within 10 miles of down town
@@craiggillett5985 yes!!!! That’s also where I was looking. Met with developers last summer and officials who shared about their “Detroit Future City” plans
The fact that this video talked so little about how winters is insane. A few years ago Duluth got so cold windows were cracking and some even shattered. If your intention on moving to Minnesota is to avoid extreme weather I'd just like to let everyone know that we see temp. swings of around 120-160 degrees in a 6 month period. When you hear that climate change is not as disruptive in this region it's not because we aren't getting the wild swings that come with climate change but because we've always had them. You won't be avoid the extremes you'll just be around hardy people that are use to them. You're more then welcome to move here but 20 below zero is a business as usual day around here, it's gotta get to around 40 below or colder before we start talking about shutting things down. Keep in mind your freezer gets to about 0 degrees. That is a beautiful warm winter day to Minnesotans.
"but 20 below zero is a business as usual day around here" Duluth reached -20 just four times last winter, not "business as usual". And, that was overnight temperature, when most are snuggly in bed, not out and about. Plus, Duluth is one of the coldest cities in the Great Lakes region. Grand Rapids, Michigan, for example, didn't have sub-zero temperatures even once last winter.
@@chadb7252 Most of Minnesota hit 20 below last year. Infact it's a rare year when we don't. Notice how that's such a normal thing noone talked about it. But if you're going to pull up stats to make your point I'll pull up some of my own. I suggest checking out the polar vortex of 2019. Where I live in Central Minnesota we saw temperature hit 44 below. Most people still ended up going to work because they have what we will now term "essential jobs". Or the cold streak of 2014 where we saw over a 53 days in a row in which it hit below zero. That's almost 2 months in which EVERYDAY say subzero temps. Is 20 below zero normal an every day ordeal in a Minnesota winter no of course not. It's still by all accounts a cold day. Do businesses shut down when it occurs, absolutely not because it occurs in most of Minnesota most winters meaning it's business as usual. Notice the difference. As for Michigan, it's not exactly known for it's cold weather at least not to to the rest of the Midewest. Being surrounded by Lake Michigan keeps it warm. That's actually something that helps Duluth too. Despite it being very cold there St. Cloud rivals it for temperatures and that's in Central Minnesota not northern Minnesota. You get away from Duluth/Lake Superior up North and that's when you get some serious cold. Anyways I was speaking about Minnesota where I've lived my whole life, so I've seen plenty of winters, perhaps other parts of the Great Lakes region has much milder winters but I do not recommend Central Minnesota unless you're ready to go to work at least a few days in 20 below temps most winters.
@@chadb7252 Also to you're ignoring a very important aspect when you state that these are overnight tempatures when most people are in bed. The night lasts a very long time in the winter. The sunrise is not until 7:30 a.m. As we all know it is coldest right before dawn. The majority of people start work at 8 a.m., as do schools, meaning they are going to work during the coldest time of day not laying in bed sleeping. When we inevitably end up going to permanent daylight savings time, and sunrise is not until 8:30 a.m. this problem will be even worse. Not to mention the fact that the sun sets so early in the evening That literally everyone is still out running errands, and blowing snow, ect when it is dark and thus colder. Long story short to simply pretend that Minnesota, and other nearby states, winter's are mild is just plain lying and to act like people can just shut themselves in during the cold snaps is not how society up here functions. We stubbornly keep moving forward regardless of the brutal cold and people need to know that before they move here.
People in Seattle and Denver been dealing with climate migration into those areas for a long time. A LOOOOONG TIME. It ain’t so bad, it’ll help the value of your property quite a bit.
The water is already super polluted there. The ground water. Radon in the air. Cancer rates are the highest in the country! It’s called the Rust Belt because those used to be big steel town with huge factories everywhere. Now the factories are gone but the pollution and cancers thrive! Yeah, Michigan is so great. The water in Flint is incredible…. Incredibly undrinkable.
Why nobody says about the jet stream going south more often? It's going get hotter in the summer but colder in the winter, welcome to the great lakes 2.0.
I don't buy that there'll be millions of people fleeing from one part of the country to another because of climate change. However, I can see the Great Lakes being able to absorb millions of people. It's a big region, plus a lot of those cities, especially in Indiana, Michigan, and Ohio have already seen population loss over the decades. That leaves a lot of housing inventory waiting to be rehabbed and lived in again. The challenge would be the cities adjusting to having a growing population again. If I were the mayor of any city in Ohio that's stagnant or shrinking, I would start making the pitch to people in higher priced southern states. I wouldn't believe what I'm saying that you need to move to Ohio to flee climate change, but it's a marketing tip.
There is a lot of homeless people in Duluth Minnesota and there's nowhere to put them we don't need more. Rent is going sky high there really isn't any work here unless you're in the hotel industry or the medical field and like I said there's a lot of homelessness here. So before you come here you better have a really good paying job waiting for you and an apartment because we also have an apartment shortage a very big housing shortage to be precise and I don't care what the mayor says this is not the San Francisco of the North. I was born and raised here I'm 60 years old in Duluth is getting smaller not bigger there used to be 100,000 people here but because of the fact that there is no industry here the city's shrinking and we don't have really great shopping centers there's one basic place to go buy you groceries unless you drive 5 mi out of the city and go to Walmart. That's the truth about Duluth Minnesota so you might want to look somewhere else before you come here. And let's not forget that it gets below 20 below for a week at a time at least three or four times every winter and you better bring a shovel cuz you're going to need it. The weather's changing here and it's getting colder in the winter so you better bring a really good jacket too.
Serious question: What happens to the homeless in winter up there? Do they leave to go south then come back when the weather is habitable? I thought the cold weather would deter homless, at least compared to cities in the west the street dwellers must be TAME. Los Angeles has concerns of bubonic plague breaking out bc of the filth its disgusting.
Judging by the increasing rate of climate disasters in the US and the latest predictions, climate mitigation then internal refugees will increase by an order of magnitude, how will they be fed?
They will keep increasing the taxes on many things not only on the wealthy but also on the middle class unfortunately. A relative of mine who’s over 80 years old had her property taxes increase a lot since the hospital nearby needs more money to pay for people who couldn’t pay their hospital bill since they were illegals but of course they still need the hospital sometimes.
if you live in 100F 80% humidity, You will start seeing a massive influx of fat people coming to your region. fat people are less heat resistant 60% of texas is fat. prepare for ressource scarcity in the great lakes
Hotter in Chicago than it is in Dallas right now as i write this. Why would anyone wanna move to a city that gets subzero winters but still has extremely hot & humid summers? Way too extreme.
Did somebody move Indianapolis? It's not on the Great Lakes (!) last time I looked. But ok my maps are old. Did they move MIlwaukee too?? It always has been on Lake Michigan. Gee.... I gotta rethink my geography.
This guy actually said, “…around the Great Lakes winters aren’t as cold…” (clearly he’s not from Chicago… where the temperature in January 2019 hit -22° F before the windchill…and the average low temp in January is about 20° F; that’s about as cold as it gets anywhere in the US apart from remote Alaska and northern Minnesota etc.
Please. Didn't Chicago just go like 300 days in a row without a 1" snowfall? Last December, Chicago had almost 10 days in the 50's or 60's and it was 70 degrees by early March. That's not a brutal winter LOL.
Glad they didn’t mention my state. We’ve had more people move here just in my 5 mile long road in the last 2 years. Several families from Ca, another one from Co , ND, Ind … 🤦🏼♀️
Wherever your state is, no one left Colorado because yours is better ….probably found a job there or something. Maybe they were attracted by your cheaper real estate lol.
@@steviesevieria1868 Well they found the state I live in, better than the one they left. That’s why people leave. A job, better taxes…. What I know is they bought 120 acres and only had 1 acre in Colorado. So, there’s that.
@@steviesevieria1868 Who likes expensive, over priced real estate ? 😂 I don’t. I pay low taxes, and because of it, I have no mortgage and no other debt. 👍🏻😁 more money to do other things with and not just keep paying the bank 🤪🤪
1:54 "Winters aren't as cold"😂😂 ever heard of something called lake effect snow not to mention it also get subzero around the cities on the lake. I live in Duluth which is right on Lake Superior and with wind chills it can get as cold as -40 -30 farenheit.
I love how they call the winter mild. Reminds me of when I worked for an apt complex in Columbus. All the Somalis were tripping when the snow started to fall. They were also told the winter’s were “mild”. I laughed and told them, “wait until it actually gets cold!” They thought 25 was unbearable and were shocked that 25 was the starting high point for a Midwest winter 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah I live in Duluth too and now we're getting that thing they call a vortex from the Arctic circle every winter. I made a comment down here about how overcrowded it's getting here and how the rent is getting so high and there's no work and how the mirror calls this the San Francisco or the North which is all bs because we got people on the corners begging and pounding on your car window and drunks and drug addicts walking out in the middle of the street on lake avenue. I hope whenever people do come here they already have a job and they already have a place to live because if they don't they ain't going to find it. 60 years old born and raised and I love my town but they better get more industry here before they get more people.
@@cynicalcindy1434 In another 20 or 30 years they will become more mild. It will always be snowy and cold there but not nearly as bad as now and many will see it as a nice trade off for summers with months of 90-100 degree days in the south or southwest.
We have to make sure we protect the people who are from here and make sure housing is affordable and sustainable. And build even more affordable and sustainable housing and cities
Heading back home this year. Hate the desert. Hated Florida. Hated Texas. Miss diversity and heat. I moved for work after I retired.Firefighter so we can’t work even if we wanted to stay on the job( Would have worked the job forever)
We share this region with another country: Canada. I don’t think Canada wants an excess population moving here and trashing what we have left. Stay away, enjoy your warm climate which you have originally migrated to. You didn’t like our cold weather . . . . Well you can stay within your choice. Don’t come here. Besides there are no high-end jobs here.
We welcome all the new/returning residents & industries. We are/will invest in our infrastruture. It becomes easier with the more tax payers/base I find it somewhat humorous, in a historical context, that population from the Northeast and Midwest fueled the growth of the South & West for some 7 decades. As we have learned with metropolitan areas, a strong central city helps the entire region. Suburbs owe their existence to those central cities. The Midwest has been called "America's Heartland,". A strong heartand produces a strong nation. By no means does this belittle any area as 'development' has many factors as does evonomic decline.
Yall want those warm winters, stay down there! I grew up on Erie, you don't know what you will find floating in there. Not to mention decades of industrial waste dumped into that lake.
It depends. Rust belt type cities, and Chicago and Minneapolis in particular (superior public transit to the others) are well positioned. If this happens public transit will be important as some more people move away from cars. Many other places in the upper Midwest have a favorable climate looking forward but little else to offer those moving in and little to no desire to position themselves for growth. No jobs, unwelcoming to outsiders/resistant to change, hostile infrastructure, these places for the most part are unlikely to grow much, content to stagnate/die off as their younger generation incrementally move away or have fewer children.
MIDWEST WINTERS ARE NOT MILD! Mild compared to Siberia, Alaska, and Antarctica but the only place with worse winters IN AMERICA are Montana, Wisconsin, Minnesota and the Dakotas! Born and raised in Ohio, winters are brutal!
@@mauricehopes9105 Antifa and BLM burned me out of Portland. Ya know, not everywhere gets cold and snowy or is riddled with wildfires. Not gonna name my state but it’s in the Sun Belt, where it doesn’t get cold and snowy and sky fires are localized. There’s always Thailand.
@@mauricehopes9105 again, the Sunbelt. Ya know, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, etc. those places get little to no snow. Fires are very localized if present at a all. Definitely no major fault lines running thru Georgia or Florida. Now, the New Madrid would be your only issue but you haven’t mentioned earthquakes as a deal breaker.
Well I hate to burst everyone’s bubble, but no one is going to move there unless there is a good economy and job market there. We might see some remote-capable workers move there, but most people don’t have that ability.
Stay where you are and Vote for solving the problem. A carbon tax would be a good start so society and the marketplace can properly value good and bad behaviours. There is still some time to address climate problem, although people would much rather engage in discussions that have no answers.
I left the Great Lakes region and moved to Oregon because of better paying jobs. Anyone moving to the lakes area will be in for a big surprise when Winter strikes! Better buy a 4-wheel drive and be prepared to crank the furnace to stay warm.
I sold my houses in CA and bought a handful of properties to AirBnB in the great lakes region. Beautiful place to live. I tell all my friends and family to come here and take advantage of the affordable real estate
When discussing attractive cities on the Great Lakes you show footage of Indianapolis, Indiana. Indy is a great town but a simple look at a map should show that it is not located on the Great Lakes.
Indiana is located on Lake Michigan. Indianapolis is the capitol and not quite as crime ridden as the northern cities along the lake, cities like Gary. Which isn’t ON the lake but closer than Indy. The northwest part is considered a Chicago suburb. It can’t be that hard to look at a map. You suggested it yourself.
@@cynicalcindy1434 Okay, but Indianapolis isn't in the Great Lakes watershed, so it doesn't have access to Great Lakes water if there are water shortages.
Will you please stop telling people to come here. The Midwest does not have the infrastructure to support a large influx of people and it is full of violent racists that will make the migrants lives worse than it already is. The winters will actually kill you if you're homeless because you can get -60 below wind chills especially in January and winter lasts a LONG time. Cold climates are not a sustainable place to live in. No matter where you live you need to prepare now for living differently making sure you have sustainable access to food, water, and shelter in a place with a habitable temperature all year round. A good place to start is look up van living.
I second the violent racist part. That’s the reason I left in the first place! Fortunately that decision has made me wealthier than I could ever have been there. Now I have the choice on where I’d like to live.
You State that cold climates are not a sustainable place to live in but there are many cold climates where people thrive such as Scandinavian countries and Scotland and Canada.
Great lakes temperature is around 6°C to 16°C, snows a lot in winter and you telling me that temperatures are mild 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Look they may be one day but as of right now, they ain't
I had to relocate after having moved into a house built on a flood plain. Lucky for me the insurance company believed in global warming nonsense instead of the authorities negligence on where not to build.
My heart goes out to all those affected by extreme weather tragedies. However, the IPCC disagrees with the claim that 'climate change is making most extreme weather worse.' This is either lazy journalism, or purposefully misleading.
Ah.. okay. Would you please provide a citation or other evidence for that statement? Because it's the exact opposite of what the IPCC actually stated very clearly in their report this year. I'm waiting....
@@triplikeido75 my evidence is AR6 WG1 report. I can’t provide a page reference because that language doesn’t exist. Since you think it says exactly that, show me where.
What kind of propaganda is this?🤦🏾😜 Lived most my life in the midwest then left in 2020. The midwest is such a miserable place!😂🙄Also on a culture and political view it is so radically different than the south west of the USA. It is called the rusty belt for a few reasons lol
Its also Bible belt 2.0 with a whole army of Cultists waiting on trump to give the word to start civil war number 2. I vacated that place in 94 and tried to go back and you just can't!
In consideration of the migrant crisis, this is why we need to concentrate the initial settlement of the illegal migrates coming across our Southern border states to the northern states.
Crime and overcrowding are already a problem here. “Climate refugees” would only make that a bigger problem. Many of the people who moved to Phoenix from Chicago did so because of the crime, which has only gotten worse.
🤣 yeah people are leaving expensive cities for a better quality of life, it’s more then climate change. More like not wanting to pay 2,500 a month rent and fighting rapidly increasing homeless populations in big cities
@@triplikeido75 he is not wrong climate change means unpredictable weather events will happen the northeast saw 27 blizzards this year which is record shattering
In Detroit we are already seeing people coming in from California and the pacific areas, many were here originally who moved back, but there’s also been some newcomers. It’s not surprising with all the freshwater, abundant resources, great culture, the rejuvenation of the city, excellent Parks and Recreation and still relatively affordable real estate, plus the state of Michigan is beautiful with thousands of lakes, hiking , skiing and cottage areas In the climatic swings are much less than what you’re seeing in other parts of the country
I'll be moving to Detroit too in the next 6 months. Downtown was very nice. I also explored the residential areas in Wayne County. There is some blight but I see areas are being worked one. I love the old historical homes. I will be buying a home while these houses are still affordable before the migration rush like what happened to FL, TX and AZ.
@@sbostic08 ,Detroit is a Great Town and you will like it I’m quite sure, great culture , museums, pro sports, outdoor activities, Belle Isle, great restaurants too, the downtown and midtown areas are really renovating beautifully, tons of construction , expansion and renovation. There are certainly some bad neighborhoods in the city still though ,but just stay away from them, the suburbs go on forever with numerous nice areas also, you also have to remember Canada is only five minutes away across the Detroit River also. The area has lots to offer, It’s also very diverse, accepting and very nice people overall.
The movie 8 Mile…. Ya, places like that aren’t EVERYWHERE around Detroit. That’s just a movie. Detroit is great! Super safe too! Especially at night!
If I could get a job in Detroit I’d move in a flash.
Relatively affordable rent until you get completely Californicated like Seattle, Portland, Austin, Denver, Salt Lake City. I’d people keep moving there en masse as they are now, expect real estate prices to skyrocket.
For the water managers that work in the desert South west, please do not join the water control boards in the great lakes regions. You will screw the great lakes over like how the desert southwest was.
Scream it to the heavens!!! Also look up what Nestlé has been up to in the UP
I figured the biggest thing screwing over the water supply in the southwest was the climate. Oh, and the people. Why the hell do people think they can have lush, green grass in a literal desert?
@@seanwilliams7655 ? The climate and the growth. I'm in Central Texas, just northwest of Austin. There are 3 new subdivisions this year, 12 in the past 5 years, and a GIANT one (20K homes) being planned, all within 5 miles of me. So we aren't getting as much rain as we used to, and what little we do get has to now be shared with hundreds of thousands of people moving in. It won't be long before we're all fvcked here. Hopefully by then, I'll be long gone.
I hope they do upgrade their infrastructure, and sensibly, for example, with public transportation, mixed-use development or multi-unit dwellings, water recycling, and green spaces. Stop paving and start planting!
Most of the cities on the Great Lakes were built with mass transit in mind. I'm expecting gentrification.
@@sallyf3080 I think that will the least of your worries. If they are really moving there by the Scads I would have to believe that we have some eco collapses going going down. I lived in the Midwest growing up, it's really hard to go back. Lots of nice people but lots of overt christianity like we're suffering via the supreme court--so Women will be thinking very hard about not moving to RED areas.
@@sallyf3080 speak for yourself lol not everyone hates outsiders so much and we can use the population increase
@@sallyf3080 at least in Michigan
@@jeremyserwer2586 the eco collapse is already going down in CA, NV. We didn't want to live through another fire season, so my family moved our young children and business to Indiana. The cost of housing here is such a deal. We don't have a problem with Christians being overt with their faith and I'd never kill my own baby so it's working out great for us.
Don't listen to these people, if you run out of water move to Florida they have lots of water. OK it's salt water and in a few years it will be in your living room but salt water soaks are good for the feet.
I ABSOLUTELY agree. Salt water is GOOD for you. All that "fresh water", in your system, is UNHEALTHY!
Lmao
Yes- very good points. Pay no attention to those saying that no water is in AZ or NV. Just dig deeper and enjoy the bone warming aspects of these arid places
Who will cover the costs of desalination?
I left Vegas before the housing bust. I would love to return, but the megadrought is a deterrent.
Lived in the Midwest and ended up relocating to Las Vegas for work. With Lake Mead water levels dropping I have made up my mind and decided to move back. Miss the seasons anyway.
hope you enjoy snow and high heating bill in winter
Me too! HATE THE HEAT AND DESERT.
@@blackbird2839I mean down there is ridiculous heat and high ac bill in the summer. Bad weather is unavoidable you just choose which you prefer to tolerate.
@@othelliusmaximusAgreed. For me, high heat mind as well be the middle of winter. You can't enjoy the outdoors in it, especially as the temps rise.
I live in this region. I've been telling people we will be getting crowded here and they said I was crazy.
That’s cuz content creators like this guy strait up lie shot how great it is. Mild winters my ass!
@@cynicalcindy1434 The Jet Stream is getting stretched much greater then in decades past. The Jet stream is like a wall. It resist the southward march of the Polar Vortex break out and keeps the southern latitudes warmer. But the February Polar Vortex is being pushed out of orbit more often and is breaking apart some times in more then one vortex. Two years ago, it was pushed out of orbit and it traveled all the way to the tip of Texas. It caused the temperatures in the state to frop from -1 to -15F. The electrical grid collapsed and hundreds of people died from Hyperthermia.
Detroit will have a Renaissance.
It already has a Rennisance Center… how did that work out?
When millions of people move there they'll need several of those.
Moving to a trailer park on 8 mile road.
YES, THAT WHOLE AREA HAS TO BE LOOKED AT FROM ALL THE COMPANIES, THE COMPANIES MOVE TO WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE
@@domcizek hey grandpa, don’t use all caps.
My family and I are part of the climigration from Arizona to the Pacific Northwest as we've suffered massive wildfires every year, drastic water shortages and rising temps. We'll see A LOT of people in the Southwest U.S. migrate to the Great Lakes and Northeast regions, and some to the PNW.
BUT....SoOregon and Norcal are very hot in summers, and desperately dry with guaranteed forest fires.
Does the PNW get the smoke from OR CA ID fires?
@@tumblewede333 ...Or and Ca.
The pacific Nw gets choked out by wildfire smoke every year. My friend has to evacuate his home every year because the fires come so close. Sometimes I wonder if I’m even on the same planet anymore. Some of the comments under this video. I’ve lived all over the country and traveled extensively and often for work for the last 15 years. Mind blown by how far off base some of these comments are!
@@tumblewede333 Oregon IS the Pacific Northwest.
I could also see Canada's population growing in the future. As they currently have most of the worlds' accessible drinking water.
They’re not just letting anyone in. 😂
@@Wtfe2024 smart
The expected total of Canada at the end of this century is 100 million, it is at 40 million now. Unlike the American great lake cities Toronto has been growing quickly for the last 50 years. When in the 60s it might have been compared to Buffalo now it has just passed Chicago in metro population. Ontario has not had the terrible losses experienced by US cities along the border but has been steadily growing. not just in the big cities but small towns also. THe big bones of the American cities are not there in Canada it is building them for the first time. The niche theory of climate with climate change put the central niche, which is currently about at Virginia, at the great lakes or in other words very roughly 400 miles north. For Canada the real question will be can larger populations be established in the north given much of it is Canadian Shield and unsuitable for agriculture even with improved climate..
With Canada's current administration running the show now. Those numbers will not happen😅
I’m leaving New Mexico after 22 years. My new home; Ann Arbor Michigan.
I moved from Albuquerque to Ohio last summer.
Hope you like road construction. Lol
Seriously though, welcome
Ann Arbor is nice, I used to go there often
Planning on moving to North West Coast
We live in New Mexico as well and are considering leaving in the next few years. The drought is severe and yet construction is BOOMING. We don’t have what we need to support an influx of new residents. We’re considering moving to the southeast where I grew up. Yeah, we’ll see some hurricanes but eh I can deal lol
Makes the case for great lakes cities. But why do they highlight Indianapolis and Ann Arbor that are not on the Great Lakes but fail to mention Cleveland and Milwaukee? Indianapolis isn't even in the Great Lakes basin, for crying out loud.
They talked about Indy for about 5 seconds. While Indy is not in the Great Lakes watershed, it is in the GL region.
They probably own real estate in Ann Arbor and Duluth and are pumping it. Personally I think Cleveland and Milwaukee, two towns that are on the down and out, are more promising in many ways.
They come from those areas
YES, BUT IT IS IN THE MIDWEST, WHERE A LOT OF CLIMATE MIGRATION WILL OCCUR TO MORE TEMPERATE AREAS
Indy is only a couple hours from the lakes, close enough to be a second choice as the lake shore gets more expensive. And Ann Arbor is in the middle of the Michigan peninsula. Not on the lake but still in the watershed with a lake influenced climate
Severe storms and even tornadoes are becoming a more common occurance in the Great Lakes Region.
As far as an influx of migrants, the cities around the lakes are even now unable to curb city and farm pollution, and a large increase of migrants will only spell troubles for an already strained eco system.
Nice try. Liar
The pollution has gotten much better over the past decade so it shouldn’t be a devastating problem.
I mean... idk I've never heard of a Tornado in my city which is a great lakes city. Also the pollution isn't as bad as most of California or New York.
Dearborn is nearly 100% middle eastern.
"Severe storms and even tornadoes are becoming a more common occurance" The opposite is true. Take Michigan, for example. It had one F5 tornado and four F4 tornadoes in the 1950s, and six F4 tornadoes in the 1960s, and not a single F4 or F5 since 1967. The last F4 or F5 tornado was 55 years ago.
All Americans who live on the coasts and the South would hate the Plains, Midwest and Ohio Valley. Cold winters, hot/humid summers and no social ammenities. Better they all just stay away and be happier where they are.
True. One block in Queens NY has more clubs and massage parlors than the entire city of Minneapolis.
Well, once their homes on the coasts are literally underwater I am sure midwest winters won't look that bad anymore lol
Yep, we are just a bunch of “fly-over”states. They would hate it here.
Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, Toledo, Grand Rapids, all these cities can take more people, they have a lot less people than they did a couple of decades ago.
The midwest can take more people.
A lot of microchip factories are being built in Arizona when they should be built in the midwest since they require a lot of water, don't build them in Arizona which is facing a water crisis. I believe one is being built in Cleveland but most are being built in Arizona. Build them in Cleveland or whatever city on the great lakes.
I believe once being built in Colorado, or is that only the turbines???
I have been making this prediction for years, lots of years.
Not all midwestern cities have direct access to the Great Lakes’ water. There are existing borders that limit who can draw GL water and, as I understand it, these only include the GL watershed. The US and Canada strive to maintain water levels for shipping commerce so this fresh water is not without limits.
lol, the Midwest has high groundwater tables cause of annual rainfall and drainage from Mountains out west and Canada
Where l live part of the city is in the Mississippi watershed. But most is in the Great Lakes. Waste water is pumped back up over the divide for treatment. Actually most of the Great Lakes watershed is in Canada.
Hopefully, because I'm a climate migrant from CA and have already moved to the Great Lakes region!
I'd prefer they didn't advertise the Great Lakes region. We have 300 acres upstream at the top of a valley surrounded by Crown Lands. We've seen more rain and more snow with climate change and scientists have been warning local governments that we'll see a lot more. But we've also seen more extreme muggier summers and harsher winters. Past 20 years very rich people have been buying up land around the lakes in Muskoka and construction buddies are seeing a lot of these massive lake houses being built have included underground bunkers, tennis courts, indoor pools (there's a sparkling clean fresh water lake right there), helicopter landing pads, and other bizarre stuff.
They way they started buying as a trickle in the 90's and then it became a flood of celebrities and very rich people, there's that sinking feeling they had access to information about climate change before everyone else because they've been driving up the cost of land in areas that we used to buy for cheap. They don't interact with locals and they don't contribute to the local economy. Who buys land in a quiet peaceful place and then uses a big speed boat or helicopter to get around?
And how are you liking it.
@@runningfromabear8354 They need to invest in desalination instead of moving here and over populating. I don't get why Abu Dhabi can do desalination on a mass scale but the western state's of the U.S can't. When it comes to water, high cost's doesn't matter just do it
@@runningfromabear8354 No, the rich people don't have access to secret information, at least in this case, but they pay attention and have the money to act. I already live in an area that is supposed to be climate secure, so I guess I'm lucky.
@@frenchonion4595 That is not reflected in price.
My hometown is Buffalo, I hate shoveling snow so I’m in Las Vegas. It’s getting to the tipping point of drought here. Lake Mead is drying up in this 20 year drought yet people keep moving here. Mostly from California, but from the rust belt also.
"Stupid is as stupid does." Forrest Gump.
When mead gets to 1000 feet: time to up and sell and get out before everyone else has the same idea
Just hire someone to take care of the snow its pretty damn affordable
I’m still here in WNY. We just went through a seven week drought, but today it rained for hours on end bringing life back to the gardens and lawn. Yeah snow sucks, but I hate the heat and love the rest of our seasons.
@@cpmiller1965 pretty fucking identical weather in NE Ohio weeks on end of basically no rain though heat hasnt been awful and it rained a good 36 hours none stop such a shame this storm wasnt in the winter cause i would have been dumped on with 2+ feet of snow
Just moved back home to Rochester, NY last month...
It's already starting. Lots of new people moving to Michigan this year. It's been all over the local news and papers. I don't blame them. Affordable living, strong job market, and the best weather in the country from May to Mid October.
The best weather in the county? Not during the summer months. My idea of ideal weather doesn’t include the frequent 80s and 90s seen in the Great Lakes region this summer. Unless one is fortunate enough to live directly on one of the lakes with a prevailing onshore flow, it is most definitely NOT comfortable. Here on Puget Sound in Washington, we have far more comfortable days. I’ve only had to crank up my AC two times thus far this summer. Plus we have the Pacific Ocean and high mountains to head to for relief when it does get hot. Unfortunately, the Pacific Northwest will be getting its share of climate refugees as well.
@@Patrick_Ross frequent 90’s isn’t true. We’ve only had a handful this year in Michigan. Washington is much too cool and cloudy and rainy for me. Seattle saw multiple 60 degree days in July this year. Too chilly. Plus, I’d miss the beautiful snow. Not a fan of cold rain during the winter. But to each their own :)
@@Patrick_Ross Don't live by a lake in the midwest, the Mosquitos will kill you, no joke. Stay in WA, I've lived in both places and the Midwest is a rough ride, culturally--its extremely christian in many places accept the big cities and the summers are brutal with humidity. The winters are great though. You will miss the Mountains and Ocean terribly!
@@Patrick_Ross obviously the northwest is far superior to the Great Lakes region, but out of the price range of many people.
@@Patrick_Ross even if it’s true that there’s many 80s and 90 days the Great Lakes it is better than Texas now over 45 days of triple digits and that’s not normal. I don’t live in Texas anymore but I’ve heard from people who do.
Everybody moving to the Great Lakes area has made a great decision, but...............The weather is a major player in life there. Winters are cold and below zero temperatures are normal. Snow comes early November and leaves late April. Snowfall is measured in feet. Spring comes late, summer is short, and fall is long. I have lived in west Michigan and Northeast Ohio.
Oh my goodness, I had no idea, it sounds grim! Heat / energy bills must be horrendous
@@craiggillett5985 Actually, the utilities in Ohio are very reasonable and the construction of homes takes in to account insulation. Michigan gets more snow and cold, but home construction is top notch. The Great Lakes, rivers, streams are teeming with all sorts of game fish. Fall harvest is fantastic. Plenty of water. Life is full of trade offs.
Moving to these Great Lakes cities is depressing to us who were born and raised in Southern California and live in Los Angeles with lots of sunshine, beaches and mountain communities nearby, and wealthy suburban neighborhoods. I would rather die here in California than flee to another part of the country.
@@Cwgrlup I was stationed in California and hated it. Earthquakes, fires, Homeless, crazies in Frisco, traffic in LA, mud slides, Democrats, just awful. I hope your wish is granted.
@@Cwgrlup I almost fell out of my chair when the video said one of the draws to the great lakes region is the mild temperatures. In every other way it looks like a great place to live.
Y'all talked all of that crap about Detroit and how bad we are but now y'all wanna move here? 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe there was a reason, the Great Lakes, was where a lot of the US Population use to live before technology made it EASY to live other places. As the climate changes, like it always has, and always will. Every so many years people will migrate to a better location. I grew up in Akron, Ohio during the down swing of the Rubber Capital.
Right.. so the overwhelming evidence of rapid, catastrophic climate change caused by exponential increases in CO2 and methane since the industrial revolution is actually not true? Because you have 'special' information and the special ability to see through all the lies? Got it. 👌
Rebuild Gary, Indiana.
Screw that.... start fresh somewhere else..... the unemployable just move somewhere else and turn that place into a shit hole.
Ive visited several cities in that region and i found the area pretty nice.
The people were basically solid and hardworking and nice after they got to know you a bit.
If climate is warming then the freezing winters should start to moderate some.
I prefer hot weather and will stay in central Texas but the great lakes may be a good option for many folks.
Yall have a great day!
Winter toughens you up and you begin to enjoy the season changes.
@@roofieandraggy16
Not me.
We have seasons here but winter is mild and very short.
Better for the arthritis.
@@aj402 i can believe you on the arthritis..... holy crap i have days i feel like i have been run over by a truck
I grew up in Ohio. Back in the 90s we used to have snow on the ground from Thanksgiving to early March. Now it might snow for a day and then rain the next and melt it all away. So the winters are getting milder.
@@fcdraw
My wife is from Findlay and later Fostoria in nw Ohio.
Grand Rapids Michigan is an awesome city and area,the whole west michigan.
GR is great! Although I prefer to live in sunnier and warmer SE Mich because the economy is stronger and wages are much higher and there's more to do from sports to concerts. And then drive 1 hour to Lake Huron or 2 hours to Lake Michigan whenever I want. Pure Michigan!
Not only people from US will be looking for places to move, but also people in Central America and South America. Even people from other continents like Asia and Africa will be looking for safer places. If the Great Lakes region is to receive an influx of climate migrants, they will come from all over the world, hundreds of millions of them.
I’d say we should not be letting hundreds of millions in, and I’m not a Trumper
Well going to have 40 million Americans heading that way soon
@@Jc-ms5vv hmmm, maybe
The great lakes region isn't all its cracked up to be. I worked out of shitcago and grand rapids, all over that area, up and down. Detroit, etc. It is mostly run down, remember Flint? Those folks are still having water issues. You could take a bulldozer to 3/4's of it all and push it into a hole. People are leaving for a reason. Its gonna be another west coast in a few years. Seattle will be a paradise compared to this.
Hundreds of millions, not at once. Not unless this occurs over the course of 100 years, and even then maybe.
Alaska is the future US heartland.
The Chinese will grab Alaska first.
Mosquito heaven
Whole state is on fire right now
Dont fucking come to Michigan
From a Detroiter, my sentiments exactly
I’ve been instinctually seeing this happening for years now. Been looking at buying large plots of land in these regions.
Cool you buy large plots of land and I will squat on it. Thanks :)
Detroit, I think the central suburbs on the western side is where the future lies, there’s lots of abandoned neighbourhoods ( bare land ) but there’s also some intact 1930’s-50’s beautiful neighbourshoods, large family homes, good schools and some mid century neighbourhoods with large lots…. Literally within 10 miles of down town
@@craiggillett5985 yes!!!! That’s also where I was looking. Met with developers last summer and officials who shared about their “Detroit Future City” plans
The fact that this video talked so little about how winters is insane. A few years ago Duluth got so cold windows were cracking and some even shattered.
If your intention on moving to Minnesota is to avoid extreme weather I'd just like to let everyone know that we see temp. swings of around 120-160 degrees in a 6 month period. When you hear that climate change is not as disruptive in this region it's not because we aren't getting the wild swings that come with climate change but because we've always had them. You won't be avoid the extremes you'll just be around hardy people that are use to them.
You're more then welcome to move here but 20 below zero is a business as usual day around here, it's gotta get to around 40 below or colder before we start talking about shutting things down. Keep in mind your freezer gets to about 0 degrees. That is a beautiful warm winter day to Minnesotans.
"but 20 below zero is a business as usual day around here" Duluth reached -20 just four times last winter, not "business as usual". And, that was overnight temperature, when most are snuggly in bed, not out and about. Plus, Duluth is one of the coldest cities in the Great Lakes region. Grand Rapids, Michigan, for example, didn't have sub-zero temperatures even once last winter.
@@chadb7252 Most of Minnesota hit 20 below last year. Infact it's a rare year when we don't. Notice how that's such a normal thing noone talked about it.
But if you're going to pull up stats to make your point I'll pull up some of my own. I suggest checking out the polar vortex of 2019. Where I live in Central Minnesota we saw temperature hit 44 below. Most people still ended up going to work because they have what we will now term "essential jobs". Or the cold streak of 2014 where we saw over a 53 days in a row in which it hit below zero. That's almost 2 months in which EVERYDAY say subzero temps.
Is 20 below zero normal an every day ordeal in a Minnesota winter no of course not. It's still by all accounts a cold day. Do businesses shut down when it occurs, absolutely not because it occurs in most of Minnesota most winters meaning it's business as usual. Notice the difference.
As for Michigan, it's not exactly known for it's cold weather at least not to to the rest of the Midewest. Being surrounded by Lake Michigan keeps it warm. That's actually something that helps Duluth too. Despite it being very cold there St. Cloud rivals it for temperatures and that's in Central Minnesota not northern Minnesota. You get away from Duluth/Lake Superior up North and that's when you get some serious cold.
Anyways I was speaking about Minnesota where I've lived my whole life, so I've seen plenty of winters, perhaps other parts of the Great Lakes region has much milder winters but I do not recommend Central Minnesota unless you're ready to go to work at least a few days in 20 below temps most winters.
@@chadb7252 Also to you're ignoring a very important aspect when you state that these are overnight tempatures when most people are in bed. The night lasts a very long time in the winter. The sunrise is not until 7:30 a.m. As we all know it is coldest right before dawn. The majority of people start work at 8 a.m., as do schools, meaning they are going to work during the coldest time of day not laying in bed sleeping. When we inevitably end up going to permanent daylight savings time, and sunrise is not until 8:30 a.m. this problem will be even worse.
Not to mention the fact that the sun sets so early in the evening That literally everyone is still out running errands, and blowing snow, ect when it is dark and thus colder.
Long story short to simply pretend that Minnesota, and other nearby states, winter's are mild is just plain lying and to act like people can just shut themselves in during the cold snaps is not how society up here functions. We stubbornly keep moving forward regardless of the brutal cold and people need to know that before they move here.
Go to California. Stay away from MICHIGAN.
Go to Arizona, STAY AWAY FROM WISCONSIN.
😂
People in Seattle and Denver been dealing with climate migration into those areas for a long time. A LOOOOONG TIME. It ain’t so bad, it’ll help the value of your property quite a bit.
@@steviesevieria1868 more property value equals more property taxes!!
Anywhere with extremely affordable housing, will attract people
until everyone moves there and makes it unaffordable.
They'll come for the water, they'll leave from all the water they polluted.
My biggest fear
The water is already super polluted there. The ground water. Radon in the air. Cancer rates are the highest in the country! It’s called the Rust Belt because those used to be big steel town with huge factories everywhere. Now the factories are gone but the pollution and cancers thrive! Yeah, Michigan is so great. The water in Flint is incredible…. Incredibly undrinkable.
Why nobody says about the jet stream going south more often? It's going get hotter in the summer but colder in the winter, welcome to the great lakes 2.0.
Here from Milwaukee on lake Michigan love it here 😊❤
... on the USA side, probably not. On the Canadian side, prospects look pretty good.
Climate change was definitely a factor when I decided to move from DC to Chicago
Really? What’s it like in DC?
I don't buy that there'll be millions of people fleeing from one part of the country to another because of climate change. However, I can see the Great Lakes being able to absorb millions of people. It's a big region, plus a lot of those cities, especially in Indiana, Michigan, and Ohio have already seen population loss over the decades. That leaves a lot of housing inventory waiting to be rehabbed and lived in again. The challenge would be the cities adjusting to having a growing population again. If I were the mayor of any city in Ohio that's stagnant or shrinking, I would start making the pitch to people in higher priced southern states. I wouldn't believe what I'm saying that you need to move to Ohio to flee climate change, but it's a marketing tip.
I’m from west michigan and we have short winters now we only had two winter storms last season it’s not that cold anymore
There is a lot of homeless people in Duluth Minnesota and there's nowhere to put them we don't need more.
Rent is going sky high there really isn't any work here unless you're in the hotel industry or the medical field and like I said there's a lot of homelessness here.
So before you come here you better have a really good paying job waiting for you and an apartment because we also have an apartment shortage a very big housing shortage to be precise and I don't care what the mayor says this is not the San Francisco of the North.
I was born and raised here I'm 60 years old in Duluth is getting smaller not bigger there used to be 100,000 people here but because of the fact that there is no industry here the city's shrinking and we don't have really great shopping centers there's one basic place to go buy you groceries unless you drive 5 mi out of the city and go to Walmart.
That's the truth about Duluth Minnesota so you might want to look somewhere else before you come here. And let's not forget that it gets below 20 below for a week at a time at least three or four times every winter and you better bring a shovel cuz you're going to need it.
The weather's changing here and it's getting colder in the winter so you better bring a really good jacket too.
Serious question: What happens to the homeless in winter up there? Do they leave to go south then come back when the weather is habitable? I thought the cold weather would deter homless, at least compared to cities in the west the street dwellers must be TAME. Los Angeles has concerns of bubonic plague breaking out bc of the filth its disgusting.
No! We're already seeing way too many people flooding in jacking up real estate and along with rising populations along the Lake Michigan shoreline.
Judging by the increasing rate of climate disasters in the US and the latest predictions, climate mitigation then internal refugees will increase by an order of magnitude, how will they be fed?
They will keep increasing the taxes on many things not only on the wealthy but also on the middle class unfortunately. A relative of mine who’s over 80 years old had her property taxes increase a lot since the hospital nearby needs more money to pay for people who couldn’t pay their hospital bill since they were illegals but of course they still need the hospital sometimes.
I live 2 miles from Lake Michigan, I have spent my whole life here. All 49 years.
Most westerners won't like the Great Lakes, unless they like 6 months of cold, gloomy weather.
if you live in 100F 80% humidity, You will start seeing a massive influx of fat people coming to your region. fat people are less heat resistant 60% of texas is fat. prepare for ressource scarcity in the great lakes
Hotter in Chicago than it is in Dallas right now as i write this. Why would anyone wanna move to a city that gets subzero winters but still has extremely hot & humid summers? Way too extreme.
Did somebody move Indianapolis? It's not on the Great Lakes (!) last time I looked. But ok my maps are old. Did they move MIlwaukee too?? It always has been on Lake Michigan. Gee.... I gotta rethink my geography.
This guy actually said, “…around the Great Lakes winters aren’t as cold…” (clearly he’s not from Chicago… where the temperature in January 2019 hit -22° F before the windchill…and the average low temp in January is about 20° F; that’s about as cold as it gets anywhere in the US apart from remote Alaska and northern Minnesota etc.
We call it da Hawk 💪
Please. Didn't Chicago just go like 300 days in a row without a 1" snowfall? Last December, Chicago had almost 10 days in the 50's or 60's and it was 70 degrees by early March. That's not a brutal winter LOL.
It seems like they went out of the way to leave out the harsh winters.
No, they straight up LIED and said the Midwest has “mild winters”.
Glad they didn’t mention my state. We’ve had more people move here just in my 5 mile long road in the last 2 years. Several families from Ca, another one from Co , ND, Ind … 🤦🏼♀️
Get used to it. People have to go somewhere. Don’t be a nimby
You have your own state?
Wherever your state is, no one left Colorado because yours is better ….probably found a job there or something. Maybe they were attracted by your cheaper real estate lol.
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Well they found the state I live in, better than the one they left. That’s why people leave. A job, better taxes…. What I know is they bought 120 acres and only had 1 acre in Colorado. So, there’s that.
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Who likes expensive, over priced real estate ? 😂 I don’t. I pay low taxes, and because of it, I have no mortgage and no other debt. 👍🏻😁 more money to do other things with and not just keep paying the bank 🤪🤪
PLEASE DON'T COME TO THIS REGION. IT'S SO BAD, YOU WILL REGRET IT.
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My only regret is not leaving California for the Great Lakes sooner
Reading you loud and clear! On my way ty!
THEY WILL HAVE NO CHOICE IF THE HAVE NO WATER AND TO HOT TO LIVE, THE MIDWEST WILL BE THE PLACE TO SETTLE IN THE FUTURE
1:54 "Winters aren't as cold"😂😂 ever heard of something called lake effect snow not to mention it also get subzero around the cities on the lake. I live in Duluth which is right on Lake Superior and with wind chills it can get as cold as -40 -30 farenheit.
I love how they call the winter mild. Reminds me of when I worked for an apt complex in Columbus. All the Somalis were tripping when the snow started to fall. They were also told the winter’s were “mild”. I laughed and told them, “wait until it actually gets cold!” They thought 25 was unbearable and were shocked that 25 was the starting high point for a Midwest winter 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah I live in Duluth too and now we're getting that thing they call a vortex from the Arctic circle every winter. I made a comment down here about how overcrowded it's getting here and how the rent is getting so high and there's no work and how the mirror calls this the San Francisco or the North which is all bs because we got people on the corners begging and pounding on your car window and drunks and drug addicts walking out in the middle of the street on lake avenue. I hope whenever people do come here they already have a job and they already have a place to live because if they don't they ain't going to find it. 60 years old born and raised and I love my town but they better get more industry here before they get more people.
@@cynicalcindy1434 In another 20 or 30 years they will become more mild. It will always be snowy and cold there but not nearly as bad as now and many will see it as a nice trade off for summers with months of 90-100 degree days in the south or southwest.
We have to make sure we protect the people who are from here and make sure housing is affordable and sustainable. And build even more affordable and sustainable housing and cities
Heading back home this year. Hate the desert. Hated Florida. Hated Texas. Miss diversity and heat. I moved for work after I retired.Firefighter so we can’t work even if we wanted to stay on the job( Would have worked the job forever)
Lies...ALL LIES! Don't, under ANY circumstances come here! It's AWFUL! You'll be SOOOOOORRRRRYYYY!
It is even worst across the border so stay away from Canada.
They don’t call you BADGUY 1 for nothing!
Jk. Everyone has a right to their own opinion.
I miss my home state of Michigan.
I hate influx stay in your area
So if everyone starts moving to our region, won’t they drain our lakes??
We share this region with another country: Canada. I don’t think Canada wants an excess population moving here and trashing what we have left. Stay away, enjoy your warm climate which you have originally migrated to. You didn’t like our cold weather . . . . Well you can stay within your choice. Don’t come here. Besides there are no high-end jobs here.
Canada doesn't want excess population moving there? The country is literally begging more immigration lol.
We welcome all the new/returning residents & industries. We are/will invest in our infrastruture. It becomes easier with the more tax payers/base I find it somewhat humorous, in a historical context, that population from the Northeast and Midwest fueled the growth of the South & West for some 7 decades. As we have learned with metropolitan areas, a strong central city helps the entire region. Suburbs owe their existence to those central cities. The Midwest has been called "America's Heartland,". A strong heartand produces a strong nation. By no means does this belittle any area as 'development' has many factors as does evonomic decline.
Yall want those warm winters, stay down there! I grew up on Erie, you don't know what you will find floating in there. Not to mention decades of industrial waste dumped into that lake.
Just leave Canadian Great Lakes ALONE! You’ve already screwed up Lake Michigan.
Actually people are mostly moving south…Las Vegas, Texas, Florida..etc. mass exodus from Great Lakes region…esp Detroit and Chicago.
In a decade or so, they'll come running back.
It depends.
Rust belt type cities, and Chicago and Minneapolis in particular (superior public transit to the others) are well positioned. If this happens public transit will be important as some more people move away from cars.
Many other places in the upper Midwest have a favorable climate looking forward but little else to offer those moving in and little to no desire to position themselves for growth. No jobs, unwelcoming to outsiders/resistant to change, hostile infrastructure, these places for the most part are unlikely to grow much, content to stagnate/die off as their younger generation incrementally move away or have fewer children.
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MIDWEST WINTERS ARE NOT MILD!
Mild compared to Siberia, Alaska, and Antarctica but the only place with worse winters IN AMERICA are Montana, Wisconsin, Minnesota and the Dakotas! Born and raised in Ohio, winters are brutal!
Yeah be cold winters don't burn your house down. So if it's between cold and snow and fire season I'm gonna pick the place with snow.
@@mauricehopes9105 Antifa and BLM burned me out of Portland. Ya know, not everywhere gets cold and snowy or is riddled with wildfires. Not gonna name my state but it’s in the Sun Belt, where it doesn’t get cold and snowy and sky fires are localized. There’s always Thailand.
@@mauricehopes9105 again, the Sunbelt. Ya know, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, etc. those places get little to no snow. Fires are very localized if present at a all. Definitely no major fault lines running thru Georgia or Florida. Now, the New Madrid would be your only issue but you haven’t mentioned earthquakes as a deal breaker.
god didn't relize Americans were such wimps.
Well I hate to burst everyone’s bubble, but no one is going to move there unless there is a good economy and job market there. We might see some remote-capable workers move there, but most people don’t have that ability.
Stay where you are and Vote for solving the problem. A carbon tax would be a good start so society and the marketplace can properly value good and bad behaviours. There is still some time to address climate problem, although people would much rather engage in discussions that have no answers.
If it were not for Mass Formation Psychosis this video would make sense to no one.
Duluth is the closest to being ready because it's actually been losing population for decades
Ann Arbor stand up
Real question is: are people ready to move to the Midwest?
From what point of view?
@@gregdubya1993 it's cold 6 months of the year
@@HominidPetro and in the South its hot , humid and miserable 6 mos of the year.
@@tima4929 that's apples to oranges
@@HominidPetro What? It's a fact the South has miserable humid weather not to mention all the hurricanes too..
Bring them to Lake Placid, New York......they need diversity.....and it is a great town
I love Southern California and was born and raised here…I would rather die here than migrate to another part of the country.
Typical
OMG, they started out with Jesse Keenan.... lost me right there.
I left the Great Lakes region and moved to Oregon because of better paying jobs. Anyone moving to the lakes area will be in for a big surprise when Winter strikes! Better buy a 4-wheel drive and be prepared to crank the furnace to stay warm.
Never
I sold my houses in CA and bought a handful of properties to AirBnB in the great lakes region. Beautiful place to live. I tell all my friends and family to come here and take advantage of the affordable real estate
Best location in the nation
Oh cool. Air bnb taking up all the properties in every city. Awesome.
awesome, I am sure people will find a way to ruin the great lakes
Please dont bring the california bs here!! Sincerely a Michigander
When discussing attractive cities on the Great Lakes you show footage of Indianapolis, Indiana. Indy is a great town but a simple look at a map should show that it is not located on the Great Lakes.
Indiana is located on Lake Michigan. Indianapolis is the capitol and not quite as crime ridden as the northern cities along the lake, cities like Gary. Which isn’t ON the lake but closer than Indy. The northwest part is considered a Chicago suburb. It can’t be that hard to look at a map. You suggested it yourself.
@@cynicalcindy1434 Okay, but Indianapolis isn't in the Great Lakes watershed, so it doesn't have access to Great Lakes water if there are water shortages.
@@chadb7252well, they were only off by a couple hundred miles lol
Will you please stop telling people to come here. The Midwest does not have the infrastructure to support a large influx of people and it is full of violent racists that will make the migrants lives worse than it already is. The winters will actually kill you if you're homeless because you can get -60 below wind chills especially in January and winter lasts a LONG time. Cold climates are not a sustainable place to live in.
No matter where you live you need to prepare now for living differently making sure you have sustainable access to food, water, and shelter in a place with a habitable temperature all year round. A good place to start is look up van living.
I second the violent racist part. That’s the reason I left in the first place! Fortunately that decision has made me wealthier than I could ever have been there. Now I have the choice on where I’d like to live.
YOUR COLD CLIMATE WILL SLOWLY CHANGE TO A MORE TEMPERATE CLIMATE, AND IT WILL NOT BE AS COLD IN THE FUTURE, LKE 20 39 YEARS
Well people are just not going to hang out and wait to die when they run out of water
You State that cold climates are not a sustainable place to live in but there are many cold climates where people thrive such as Scandinavian countries and Scotland and Canada.
WITH THE 1200 YEAR DROUGHT IN THE SOUTHWEST, CLIMATE MIGRATION WILL BE COMING TO THE MIDWEST
Let these people moving from very warm / hot climates experience a winter in Michigan , Wisconsin , and Minnesota .
It's shocking to newcomers b.
Great lakes temperature is around 6°C to 16°C, snows a lot in winter and you telling me that temperatures are mild 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Look they may be one day but as of right now, they ain't
Please dear god stay in California
PANIC! PANIC NOW!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh! No ! Stay in California with your ideas!
Chicago had a population of 5.4 million in 1950. The population in 2020 was 2.8 millon. Bring back good paying jobs and it will happen again.
Chicago's metro area has over 9 million people playboy only New York and LA have more
Now all the places the late night talk hosts and other's made fun of are now going to be the most desirable with the coming climate change.
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I had to relocate after having moved into a house built on a flood plain.
Lucky for me the insurance company believed in global warming nonsense instead of the authorities negligence on where not to build.
My heart goes out to all those affected by extreme weather tragedies. However, the IPCC disagrees with the claim that 'climate change is making most extreme weather worse.' This is either lazy journalism, or purposefully misleading.
Ah.. okay. Would you please provide a citation or other evidence for that statement? Because it's the exact opposite of what the IPCC actually stated very clearly in their report this year. I'm waiting....
@@triplikeido75 my evidence is AR6 WG1 report. I can’t provide a page reference because that language doesn’t exist. Since you think it says exactly that, show me where.
@@triplikeido75 I’m waiting…
What kind of propaganda is this?🤦🏾😜 Lived most my life in the midwest then left in 2020. The midwest is such a miserable place!😂🙄Also on a culture and political view it is so radically different than the south west of the USA. It is called the rusty belt for a few reasons lol
Its also Bible belt 2.0 with a whole army of Cultists waiting on trump to give the word to start civil war number 2. I vacated that place in 94 and tried to go back and you just can't!
@@jeremyserwer2586 That is true, the christian taliban is every single mile up there😳🔥 #nothanks
When the water goes, they're going to be coming out of necessity. Get used to it.
SHIT NO .
In consideration of the migrant crisis, this is why we need to concentrate the initial settlement of the illegal migrates coming across our Southern border states to the northern states.
Crime and overcrowding are already a problem here. “Climate refugees” would only make that a bigger problem. Many of the people who moved to Phoenix from Chicago did so because of the crime, which has only gotten worse.
Blaming the climate for almost everything, is as looney as claiming every single catastrophe was caused by an angry God.
Woke people
🤣 yeah people are leaving expensive cities for a better quality of life, it’s more then climate change. More like not wanting to pay 2,500 a month rent and fighting rapidly increasing homeless populations in big cities
The ocean currents are changing. This could usher in a ice age and we will all be running to Mexico.
Uhuh.....right. Don't quit your day job, buddy.
@@triplikeido75 he is not wrong climate change means unpredictable weather events will happen the northeast saw 27 blizzards this year which is record shattering