That had to have been weighing on her since she did that, always in the back of her mind. She was living on borrowed time since she took that babies life.
The title of your video isn't correct -- she did not leave her baby at the side of the road. She left it in the woods and animals dragged the bag with the baby in it to the side of the road.
What about the millions that were torn limb from limb by other mothers? The ones that are being murdered as we speak? If one is wrong then they all are.
True that is a very scary prospect and you have a lot of empathy to even think of that, but, it doesn't make it okay at all and I know that you know that.
@@janetdobbs4203 , A conscious mind doesn’t let you forget . Her answer when the detectives showed up on her doorstep . “ Do you know why we’re here “ ? , she answered , “ A baby “ !
She said she was born in 1970, so in 1993, when she threw away her baby, she was 23!! She wasn’t a teenager!! She’s a damn adult!! I need to add this comment. Ok, not one baby, but two babies!! AND, she was engaged to the father of her babies!! What we have here, is just plain evil!! The babies were an inconvenience to her. She is a despicable, horrible human being.
By the time I was 23, I was a divorced teen mom. The undisputed queen of bad decisions… but damn. I don’t know what to make of this woman. She’s so pitiful, but at the same time she has to be some kind of monster… and the fact that she was a nanny, got married and had more kids is strange to the point of uncomfortable. I think she’s lying about things and leaving important facts out. I don’t know how she faced her family after this came out.
Also, in the 90s, there were a lot of parents that were younger, and she was younger by the standards at the time but not by much. Hardly a 16 year old mother. I was born in 1972 and in the mid nineties we were not living in the 50s or 60s anymore. People were used to seeing young moms by then. It wasn't shocking. How in my high school, there was a girl who in senior year was pregnant with her first child and already married. Kind of creepy when you think about it because she was married to a man who was over 21 so there's something very weird and questionable about all of that but everybody's family was fine with it and they were happy so whatever, but even those girls love their children. 😢 If you care more about the father, there's something wrong with you because I couldn't wait to get rid of her dad. And it was the right decision because he never had anything to do with her in life and she doesn't ever want to meet him.
I got pregnant at 19, with a father that didn’t believe in having a baby out of wedlock, and I couldn’t imagine in my wildest dreams doing this. There’s no excuse in this world.
Same. He’s 14 today and the most kind, gentle, smart, and handsome soul I’ve ever met. My father, who was furious with me at the time, loves him like he was his own.
And did you make it to the end of this video? She did it frickin twice!!!! It was already absurd, but when I heard it was the 2nd baby she threw out onto the road...
It does make sense I had a father I was terrified of but what he didn't know didn't hurt him altho I was scared he'd find out until we got engaged then I didn't care what he knew or thought. Not everyone has the same background. I certainly not judging her
it doesnt make sense in this era, but it made sense back then....not enough sense to do this, but living with someone prior to marriage was a new thing, having babies with a defacto was still rare...my parents lived together and got married only because they fell pregnant in 1980.
She was in her 20's and knew exactly what she was doing/did. A hospital, fire station, social services, almost anywhere but in a garbage bag in the woods. Preposterous. I'm so sick of seeing these type of cases.
23 is still very young and you don't know her circumstances at the time, if she had no choice but to do what she did. It's tragic for everyone involved, the baby, the mother, etc.
@@dr-enoch under that logic, I wouldn't be walking this earth. My mother was 15 years old. She chose to give me life and not dump me in the woods like trash. This female most certainly had a choice but chose wrong. Stop making excuses for inexcusable behavior.
@@ericawood9714 You can't take your own situation and apply to this particular woman. That's not how empathy works. You are super lucky that you weren't in her circumstances. You could easily have been her.
@@dr-enochit wasn’t tragic for the mother she continued to live her life for 26 years!! She not a victim so stop attempting to make her one. They charge teenagers as an adult when they commit crimes & don’t care nothing about the circumstances or what they going through. She was a full grown adult!!!
What were the laws in her state at the time? America has made this scenario much more possible because of recent laws. Don’t agree with what she did, that was through shame which should not be ever a reason, but why don’t you vote in a way that would stop this? Not saying it would totally eradicate this but it’s not helping. Bet she’s lived with that everyday.I’ve had miscarriages that I thought, perhaps if I did that differently, from picking up my 3 year old to carrying a loaf of bread. That I know is irrational thinking. However at least miscarriagrs were seen correctly as natural events, was disgusted to find some are investigated as murder in USA despite natural. Is that lack of education or religious zealotry? Equally backward thinking of a 2nd World country or worse
Eh, I don’t know if that’s fair. She did a totally awful thing that I could never do myself, but we don’t know what she felt or dealt with internally for 30 years.
There's a million other true crime videos this could be said on, this is probably one of the very last ones I would choose, all considering. Knowing the sheer amount and variety of heinous, truly evil crime that is committed all day, every day and has been for the last so many years, down to the last detail, i would not say this woman is the embodiment of no empathy out of them all. I think it's pretty apparent that she seems regretful, remorseful, and is displaying signs of feeling normal human emotion such as empathy and emotional torment from what she did.
I want to see the husbands interrogation. What was his reaction when he found out his wife and mother of his surviving children was a serial baby killer.
They’re naive and believe the police will tell them the truth. Sadly, they aren’t ever taught correctly. They have rights but must ask for them. I suspect she was somewhat sheltered and has a lack of education. She was probably taught the Police are always on her side. I was told that by many people growing up but, I was fortunate that my Father explained my rights to me. There was never a teacher, not even in Government Classes in High School, who clearly reviewed rights through the U.S. Constitution. Not once was anything ever covered. I was in high school in 1970’s. I learned through my Father and later, on my own. I learned but many people don’t. Their first contact with a Police Officer is when they’re accused of something. Since the Officers say they aren’t arresting her and just want her side of the story, they’ve intentionally lulled her into a false sense of security. Shameful & Deceptive but completely legal. Everyone should watch this video.
@@misplacedsouthern1236 She most definitely thought that she wasn’t going to be in any trouble because of how much they told her in the beginning that she wasn’t under arrest. Sad.
Seriously 😳 I mean I know this woman is guilty of murdering two babies. But it's her right to have counsel! It's everybody's right. I will never understand why people don't ever lawyer up! Especially if you're innocent!
She put two newborn babies in garbage bags and disposed of them like trash. Then she went on to get married and have three other children. After exhibiting such heartless behavior toward her first two babies, I can’t help but wonder what kind of mother she is with her other three. And I wonder how her living children feel knowing they have siblings whose mother never wanted to have a chance at life.Can’t imagine finding this out about my mother. Her poor kids.
@@jmc8459 She also admitted to abandoning another newborn two years before that, when she was 21, though she didn’t specify whether that baby had been born alive. When officers looked later, they could not find the remains, and she has not been charged with any crimes in connection with this second confession.
Just so I’m clear, did she marry the man who was the father of the babies? Because she said her and her husband were dating right when this happened right?
Her saying her father was against having children young and not married, I'm sure if she said dad im going to put your grandbaby in a plastic bag and throw it out like trash in the woods, he would opted to her keeping it. RIP August baby 💔
@sapphonymph8204 😂😂😂 I mean I rather someone abort a child than a child suffer an entire lifetime. We have enough kids that need help & our social system for children is not large enough. So yes aborting would have been her best bet if she felt she could not as it would have been before full term. She wouldn't of held her already born baby before murdering it. Sad thing is she will remain living & wasting our tax dollars now anyways.
The fact she didn't look to see the babies gender says she was completely detached from the situation. I can't imagine her husband and kids learning she did this.
Babies.... she did this twice. They never found the 1st baby even after she drew them a map. This interview is about the second child. She is a selfish monster
I was feeling the same! I can’t squish a bug and this lady murders her own babies and tosses them out in the woods. I’m speechless and appalled. How do these people even exist??
Sounds like she has no empathy. Telling her,your child was alive and she murdered the baby ,she has no emotional reaction.She is still calling the baby an it. Don’t know what’s up , no sorrow, no crying nothing. WTF
That’s the part that gets me ! She constantly called the baby ,” it “ ! The detectives picked up on that and , they were referring to the baby as the “ baby “ . She was distancing herself from the child and the crime !
Im sorry, but how could you ever, EVER, forget anything about giving birth then tossing your own child away like household garbage??!!! Absolutely deplorable. And to think she was a nanny to someone else's child.
Especially the first and those circumstances. Unless to cope all these years she blocked it and made herself believe it never happened. She's had a lot of years to reprogram her brain
@@tamib711, If she can’t love your own babies I don’t see how she could like someone else’s . I would imagine she’s a cold hearted woman only going through the motions .
She made a terrible decision but the world was different then, families were different. It was an enormous humiliation for some to be pregnant out of wedlock. I won't defend it but I see how it might make sense for her to try to "erase" the mistake. There weren't safe havens with no questions back then.
What irony that she spoke of being a counselor and member of a church youth group. As a guilty party, she was shocked and didn’t think it through when they asked her if she knew why they were there. When she answered “a baby” it was game over.
How selfish would a mother have to be to murder her children to protect her reputation? Unimaginably so, in my estimate. There are countless families out there that would have loved and raised those babies as though they were their own.
I don’t care how many years ago it happened, you gave birth to a baby, threw it in a trash bag and dumped it into the woods, I think I would remember every thing about that day!!! That poor baby 😢
2 of them I believe she planed the murders considering she never named them! Mark would know when she named the ones who did servive I wonder if she thought about killing the servicing children too?!?? ⁉️⁉️⁉️
I don't understand why she hid her pregnancies and dumped the babies. She was in a long term relationship and ended up marrying the father. She has to be a psychopath
I don’t understand how you hide a pregnancy from someone you are intimate with. I only gained 18 pounds with my first child but I was obviously pregnant.
First, I really hate that this happened; I wish she would have allowed someone to help her, even if it was someone outside of her immediate circle of influence. Second, NEVER let law enforcement question you without an attorney (private preferably) present.
She killed at least 2 babies I don't really care about her rights or what she should have done. She didn't need any support, she needed empathy and she still doesn't have it while she sits there calling a baby "IT".
@@madsdee7803while I also think she is completely deplorable, even people like that have rights and deserve to have someone representing them on their behalf specifically when they are being questioned by trained detectives. I agree that those babies deserve justice, but her having legal representation doesnt mean she will get away with it. It just means justice should come after a fair legal process. This is America, after all.
I had a baby the same year as her at 16 and some people still thought it was VERY wrong to have a baby out of wedlock but 80% of people couldn't give a crap. Besides been a murderer is much much worse
ok, so her alive, functioning children with brain cells who have loving memories, THEY deserve to suffer? Because of some random baby who had no memories? The cops ruined more lives than they saved. Over a fetus. What's the point? The baby wouldn't have remembered it??? It's not like it was hanging out going "oh this Is murder". Babies are aborted full term all the time.
YT caption is atrocious. Either mispelling or dyslexic? I'm HOH so often depend on CC. Sometimes yelling "Are you EVEN watching the same video playing!??" I've actually seen someone's last name spelt 3 different ways and language that you just know that person didn't just say!!
So the baby was left and could have easily been torn apart by animals as food. What a terrible way to end a life. I will never understand the way some people think /don't think in a time of crisis. An adult should surely not be scared of parents finding out. This is more a case of she didn't want a child. She is so cold, killed 2 babies and not one tear.
@@forthebeez no they want to be free so they get rid of an "obstacle". There's no reason to leave a baby to die alone in a plastic bag. These lowlives always claim their babies were born dead (so they are only guilty of disposing of a body and get a reduced sentence). She knew she was pregnant and hid the pregnancy and then coincidentally the baby is born dead...wow what a coincidence again and again. Self serving sociopathy.
@@themassesmusicYou completely missed his point, for one, he’s saying peoples JUDGING AND SHAMING others is ONE OF THE REASONS this happens- not anything about why “people shouldn’t do things like this”. And he’s right.
@@Cole_CrossShe could have had an abortion. A woman desperate to give up a child could leave it at a fire station or hospital. At least she wouldn't get arrested later. Also, there are people who grew up just fine in foster care.
It’s truly amazing to watch her reactions in real time 😱 all the walls closing in . She knows she’s done. The mental torture she’s going through, she probably lived on the edge every day waiting for this . Crazy you never really know anyone .
Ur sick to think she needs a lawyer, she needs to be held accountable for her crimes she threw 2 babies away in the cold in a trash bag to die slowly. Ur sick to side with this baby murderer.. u want a lawyer so she could possibly walk free and keep pretending like nothing happened... Ur just as much of a narcissist pos. It's called karma . And it caught up to her 30 years later thank God!l
Anyone who has had a baby knows that it just doesn't fall out of the birth canal like water and she acts like she doesnt remember squat. Giving birth to your first child isn't easy lady and its definitely something you're going to remember.
You're making presumptions that this woman's mind works in a normal way but obviously it doesn't. Women normally don't kill or discard their newborn babies. If it's possible for her to kill her baby it's also possible she doesn't remember everything clearly. Especially since it was decades in the past.
Why would u lose a man that loves you because you’re carrying his child!… sounds like a real winner . Imagine being her kids and finding out her killed two babies like that.
I feel like there was more to it. Possibly that she had another lover and didn’t know who the father was. That would explain why she was so worried ‘about losing him’. Either way, she is sickening 🤬
Her story doesn't make sense because the placenta does not come out at the same time that the baby comes out. It's usually delivered anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes later. Her story doesn't make sense.
I thought that was odd too, obviously it wouldn't occur to male police officers unless they were prompted to ask that question . I've attended 4 births and given birth twice myself and each occasion the placenta took its time to come and usually needed a little pushing or manipulating to come away .
@charlesmanswoon421 if she didn't cut the placenta it would've been 30-60 minutes before the placenta came away without medical intervention. So either she would've been sat in the bathroom attached to the baby for around an hour waiting for the placenta to come out, or she would've carried the baby to the kitchen attached to herself Either way it would have been impossible not to see the baby breathing or moving in that time span. Unless she lied about not cutting the placenta, but that seems unlikely as it doesn't make her look any better lying about it, and cutting it could have resulted in her bleeding out if not done correctly.
@@CraftingNannieI've given birth 3 times. And each time the placenta came out within a minute or 2 of delivering the baby. And I didn't have to push it. It just came out. It felt like the word bloop.
@@sapphonymph8204 The difference there is that in those circumstances the fetus/zygote doesn’t even have a functioning nervous system yet. That is an entirely different matter than what happened in this case!
It's hard for me to understand why a woman who is sexually active cant accept the fact that one day she might be pregnant then when the baby is finally born, she will find a way to abandon the baby even in the most evil way
55:00 that laugh after she said “couldn’t breathe” like the universe saying your newborn baby slowly SUFFOCATING IN A GARBAGE BAG literally “couldn’t breathe”
She deserves to be behind bars. However, the detective takes her phone while saying she's not under arrest, not reading her rights, etc. How is taking her phone for his safety? Not allowing her to make a phone call after being told she wasn't under arrest. Don't mess these cases up. These people need to go to jail.
The officer said he couldn’t let her make a call although she was allowed to text work under observation. If she was free to call, she could have arranged to get someone else to intervene. She was interviewed at the station for her safety & the safety of the detectives because everything was in a secure location and filmed. With officers’ body cams and cameras at the station, there is no “he said/she said.” Any assaults by either party would be recorded. Any other abuse of her rights would be recorded. She wasn’t under arrest and she was free to leave at any time as she was instructed in the office. She chose not to do so and she also chose not to request an attorney.
@@nineteen8122 I don't believe the comment was supposed to sound like she should just throw them away. But if you keep some, why not keep them all? Or not have anymore at all.
@@ericaclauson6033- Murder two children? REALLY?????? This wasn't a person who dropped 2 separate babies off at a fire station, or outside of the hospital or called 911 to report that you left a baby somewhere. This isn't a dead beat Mom who just left the children with the father or someone else. No, she MURDERED a baby, and then 2 years later, did it again. So, NO. Men DON'T do it every day!
A mother whom looses a child to stillbirth or one that dies shortly after birth doesn't "forget" a moment of that time. She wouldn't forget the date, refuse to look at her baby or find out the gender, they don't put their baby in a trash bag and then drive the corpse around for a week before discarding it in the woods as if it were food for wildlife. She needs to never see daylight again. What a monster and a menace.
She’s not very bright but CLEARLY smart enough to know (I’d like to think it’s natural maternal instinct) that creating and carrying an innocent precious baby and then killing it is WRONG. She’s infuriating 🤬
At first I was feeling bad for her. Then during the questioning to learn the baby was actually alive and all that and her lies I quickly felt sad and not sympathetic to this lady. Her calling the baby “it”
He didn't care to ask about what happened after she told him she was going to see a doctor. He just stopped his involvement with the pregnancy. No questions. No thoughts. No opinion basically.
2 babies she did this too. The one she spoke about first, dumped after birth, cord, placenta still attached, not a stitch on. She gave birth in the house she was working as a nanny while the kids were at achool. Dumped in woods after birth dumped, in a plastic bag alive to freeze to death in winter. A year earlier 1991 another one dumped newborn in long grass after birth, nothing on, core and placenta attached. dumped to die in a plastic bag in the heat of summer.
I know. 100% HEARTLESS. There's a woman in the comments who keeps defending her saying that the cops shouldn't destroy her children's lives now based on something she did years earlier. It makes me wonder if perhaps she didn't do the same thing, herself. Either that, or perhaps she knows this woman... I don't think she knows the woman.
First thing my dad asked me when I told him I was pregnant was "when are you getting married?" I told him "I'm not" he had a look of disappointment because those were his values but he accepted my choice and he loved his grandson, they only got a year together before my daddy died, by that time he didnt gaf that I was not married
I was a 17 year old when I had my 1st child and 24 with second. WTF! This person was 23 and disposed of her baby!!!!!! Then the final insult is that she ended up marrying that man and had MORE children….. just disgusting
Admitted to killing 2 babies, she still has a shot at parole in 15 years. She lived free 29 and 31 years. Justice will be had in the afterlife. She got off easy in this one. 😢
She could've just brought the baby to a fire station or left the baby at a police station and left him or her there, even a hospital! any of those options would've been better than what she chose to do! How could you live with yourself, go on to have more children and not think about that first baby you had? looking at your children wondering who that baby would be now? evil. That poor baby wasn't trash.. that baby didn't even get to experience a second of love or comfort. She did this TWICE!
The safe haven law did not exist when she did this. When she had the babies it was criminal to also leave babies on doorsteps. You could not just drop a child off. However, murdering two children were not better options either. Her going full term she could have gone into a hospital and just had them adopted out. She didn’t want kids at that time. By her own admission Mark would have kept the baby
@@chasehedges6775 I totally agree. The issue is no one wants to take responsibility for their actions and some people fight all their lives to have children and then this woman just decides to throw her baby away. It’s horrifying.
I guess I’m just so tired of her calling the baby it. This was her child. She could have driven to a hospital and made sure the baby was fine and it was not fine and they could’ve handled it from there but she had no remorse and I’m sorry, but I don’t know anyone could ever do this.
Even if she had shown any emotions, you would’ve said she was faking anyway. She more than likely has compartmentalized this. But I don’t expect people to understand nuance.
She murdered them for a reason and that was her intention. She had every opportunity to get help or even take the babies to somewhere like a police station, hospital, fire station etc. She had bo empathy then, so whybexpect her to have empathy now this many later. Some folk are heartless bo matter how much you may not want them to be. It's how it is.
Well obviously you two don’t share the same personality traits or perhaps you were raised differently, or maybe she had a harder life than you did. Your compassion is overwhelming.
I think she was terrified of her father and of her boyfriend dumping her if she messed up his plan. With her father’s constant abuse, she was used to disassociating too. She also had arrested development: she wasn’t allowed to develop normally with her childhood trauma. And with her severe low self esteem she couldn’t imagine doing anything but maybe panicking. BUT it’s still a crime.
I can't have children of my own. There is nothing that makes me hate life like monsters like this. Not only did you take away a life YOU created, you took away the potential love that someone could give that child. Makes me see red.
So sad....I think this should make all parents appreciate the need to have an open and honest dialogue with their children and to let them know that they will loved whatever happens. If Mark was the only person she felt had ever loved her...thats just really heartbreaking 😢
She said the only MAN. She tried to blame her father’s alcoholism for her decision not to confide in him. for whatever reason, she was heartless, but somehow she has a strong bond to her relationship with Mark.
In her mind she has to dissociate in order to make sense of it. I believe she s a covert narcissist due to her severe childhood trauma. She was terrified of her father as it was internalized into her. So she also feared mark s reaction. I believe she had arrested development and was living a a life of auto pilot. Although still a crime.
The thing that gets me with these type of cases is the mother/father calling the baby "it"… they never ever say he or she… it’s always "it". I know it’s their way of disassociating, removing themselves & any emotion - but it just makes the whole situation sadder to me…😔🥺💔
I cannot fathom this woman at all! She hadn't thought of her crimes at all... for all of those years?! Not when she went to "camp"? Not when she became pregnant again? Not when they placed her (wanted) newborns in her arms? Not as her (wanted) children grew and changed and advanced? And then her concern is only what people will think of her?!
Every woman that says “I was still having my period” has to know that event is so rare. She absolutely knew. This makes my stomach roll. That poor Child.
reading articles where she said shd killed another baby the same way in 1991 and articles saying she shouldnt be in prison even tho she has murdered 2 innocent babies ..disgusting
I really wonder about her surviving children. It's wild to me that she could raise any children normally and then talk about the babies she killed and threw away with no emotion whatsoever. I hope for their sake they never see this video
My sister got pregnant out of wedlock and was scared of telling him, my mom stood up for her and her child became the most beloved for my dad, what she said it's no excuse!!
I was pregnant 2 times. No way her boyfriend or husband didn’t know. One Sunday morning I was in church and saw a mom getting on to her two little girls . After church I found out they were laughing because, my tummy was moving around. I was 7 months along and two five year olds knew.
To do something so horrific once is bad enough let alone doing it twice. Her excuses mean absolutely nothing. Afraid of daddy at 23 years old doesn't cut it.
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That had to have been weighing on her since she did that, always in the back of her mind. She was living on borrowed time since she took that babies life.
The title of your video isn't correct -- she did not leave her baby at the side of the road. She left it in the woods and animals dragged the bag with the baby in it to the side of the road.
Omg! She let her baby die. In a bag. What a evil monster she is. I came out pregnant at 14 and guess what. He is 33 years old now. I kept him
What about the millions that were torn limb from limb by other mothers? The ones that are being murdered as we speak? If one is wrong then they all are.
I love that you are using SS videos without interruption! It’s great content!
Imagine waiting 30 years, waking up everyday, wondering if the cops are going to arrest you yet.
True that is a very scary prospect and you have a lot of empathy to even think of that, but, it doesn't make it okay at all and I know that you know that.
@@kf10126I don’t think that’s what they meant
You’re not getting the drift of the comment .
I don't think she worried about it at all, based on her flat affect. She has clearly has some dissassocitation with the events.
@@janetdobbs4203 ,
A conscious mind doesn’t let you forget . Her answer when the detectives showed up on her doorstep . “ Do you know why we’re here “ ? , she answered , “ A baby “ !
The fact that she was working in childcare as a nanny at the time is frightening.
It’s not unusual,many women k illers work/ed with babies,and children.It’s sickening.
Exactly what I was thinking. Wonder if they ever interviewed that family
And referring to the baby as an 'it' is sickening
Absolutely horrifying.
Maybe she was trying to make up for what she gave up.
She said she was born in 1970, so in 1993, when she threw away her baby, she was 23!! She wasn’t a teenager!! She’s a damn adult!!
I need to add this comment. Ok, not one baby, but two babies!! AND, she was engaged to the father of her babies!!
What we have here, is just plain evil!!
The babies were an inconvenience to her. She is a despicable, horrible human being.
By the time I was 23, I was a divorced teen mom. The undisputed queen of bad decisions… but damn. I don’t know what to make of this woman. She’s so pitiful, but at the same time she has to be some kind of monster… and the fact that she was a nanny, got married and had more kids is strange to the point of uncomfortable. I think she’s lying about things and leaving important facts out. I don’t know how she faced her family after this came out.
She was an adult and not a frightened child - how do het kids live with what she did ?
I had my daughter at 22 and she is now 25 so your right it's not like she was 15
Also, in the 90s, there were a lot of parents that were younger, and she was younger by the standards at the time but not by much. Hardly a 16 year old mother. I was born in 1972 and in the mid nineties we were not living in the 50s or 60s anymore. People were used to seeing young moms by then. It wasn't shocking. How in my high school, there was a girl who in senior year was pregnant with her first child and already married. Kind of creepy when you think about it because she was married to a man who was over 21 so there's something very weird and questionable about all of that but everybody's family was fine with it and they were happy so whatever, but even those girls love their children. 😢 If you care more about the father, there's something wrong with you because I couldn't wait to get rid of her dad. And it was the right decision because he never had anything to do with her in life and she doesn't ever want to meet him.
@@michellecox8538 she dumped 2 babies 👶
I got pregnant at 19, with a father that didn’t believe in having a baby out of wedlock, and I couldn’t imagine in my wildest dreams doing this. There’s no excuse in this world.
Same. He’s 14 today and the most kind, gentle, smart, and handsome soul I’ve ever met. My father, who was furious with me at the time, loves him like he was his own.
SHOCK is not an excuse, but a reason. She didn't know how far along she was...unless you are in the situation you shouldn't judge.
Thank you
@@kaep7410 Oh no very sickening to think that that ........ ????
And did you make it to the end of this video? She did it frickin twice!!!! It was already absurd, but when I heard it was the 2nd baby she threw out onto the road...
So scared of her dad about a baby out of wedlock, but had no problem living out of wedlock with her boyfriend for a year. Doesn't make sense.
IKR 🤨 Unbelievable excuses. I struggled watching this because I kept getting angry. 😢
Agreed 💯
It does make sense I had a father I was terrified of but what he didn't know didn't hurt him altho I was scared he'd find out until we got engaged then I didn't care what he knew or thought. Not everyone has the same background. I certainly not judging her
@@jade7249my problem is she could have left the baby in front of church, hospital, any safe place, instead she dumped her baby like a piece of trash
it doesnt make sense in this era, but it made sense back then....not enough sense to do this, but living with someone prior to marriage was a new thing, having babies with a defacto was still rare...my parents lived together and got married only because they fell pregnant in 1980.
She was in her 20's and knew exactly what she was doing/did. A hospital, fire station, social services, almost anywhere but in a garbage bag in the woods. Preposterous. I'm so sick of seeing these type of cases.
23 is still very young and you don't know her circumstances at the time, if she had no choice but to do what she did. It's tragic for everyone involved, the baby, the mother, etc.
@@dr-enoch under that logic, I wouldn't be walking this earth. My mother was 15 years old. She chose to give me life and not dump me in the woods like trash. This female most certainly had a choice but chose wrong. Stop making excuses for inexcusable behavior.
@@ericawood9714 You can't take your own situation and apply to this particular woman. That's not how empathy works.
You are super lucky that you weren't in her circumstances. You could easily have been her.
@@dr-enochit wasn’t tragic for the mother she continued to live her life for 26 years!! She not a victim so stop attempting to make her one. They charge teenagers as an adult when they commit crimes & don’t care nothing about the circumstances or what they going through. She was a full grown adult!!!
What were the laws in her state at the time? America has made this scenario much more possible because of recent laws.
Don’t agree with what she did, that was through shame which should not be ever a reason, but why don’t you vote in a way that would stop this? Not saying it would totally eradicate this but it’s not helping.
Bet she’s lived with that everyday.I’ve had miscarriages that I thought, perhaps if I did that differently, from picking up my 3 year old to carrying a loaf of bread. That I know is irrational thinking. However at least miscarriagrs were seen correctly as natural events, was disgusted to find some are investigated as murder in USA despite natural. Is that lack of education or religious zealotry? Equally backward thinking of a 2nd World country or worse
If “no empathy” was a person.
Right?
Agreed
Eh, I don’t know if that’s fair. She did a totally awful thing that I could never do myself, but we don’t know what she felt or dealt with internally for 30 years.
@@a.walters123Bullshit. She’s evil.
There's a million other true crime videos this could be said on, this is probably one of the very last ones I would choose, all considering. Knowing the sheer amount and variety of heinous, truly evil crime that is committed all day, every day and has been for the last so many years, down to the last detail, i would not say this woman is the embodiment of no empathy out of them all. I think it's pretty apparent that she seems regretful, remorseful, and is displaying signs of feeling normal human emotion such as empathy and emotional torment from what she did.
I want to see the husbands interrogation. What was his reaction when he found out his wife and mother of his surviving children was a serial baby killer.
He's supporting her and refused to believe she did it
@annazaman9657 - Even after trial, when he saw her say it?? And remember, she actually did it twice. Two babies.
She wasn't a cerise baby killer! She didn't continue to kill babies!
NO WAY!?!? I can't believe he stayed with her. 😮 She literally admitted to it and drew a map of the very first one she murdered.
Oh no! She did it more than once?🤦🏾♀️
Wow. It never ceases to amaze me that people go into interrogations like this without lawyering up.
They’re naive and believe the police will tell them the truth. Sadly, they aren’t ever taught correctly. They have rights but must ask for them. I suspect she was somewhat sheltered and has a lack of education. She was probably taught the Police are always on her side. I was told that by many people growing up but, I was fortunate that my Father explained my rights to me. There was never a teacher, not even in Government Classes in High School, who clearly reviewed rights through the U.S. Constitution. Not once was anything ever covered. I was in high school in 1970’s. I learned through my Father and later, on my own. I learned but many people don’t. Their first contact with a Police Officer is when they’re accused of something. Since the Officers say they aren’t arresting her and just want her side of the story, they’ve intentionally lulled her into a false sense of security. Shameful & Deceptive but completely legal. Everyone should watch this video.
@@misplacedsouthern1236
She most definitely thought that she wasn’t going to be in any trouble because of how much they told her in the beginning that she wasn’t under arrest. Sad.
Seriously 😳 I mean I know this woman is guilty of murdering two babies. But it's her right to have counsel! It's everybody's right. I will never understand why people don't ever lawyer up! Especially if you're innocent!
Straight up!!
@@JessicaC.She has to ask for a lawyer. When they read the Miranda rights it say so.
Omg... she did it twice?!?! Wtf... how do you say that without any reaction?? What a psycho
No, the investigator implied that. She and her husband are talking about the same pregnancy.
1:15:09
1:48:34 She admitted 😰 1991
No remorse 😮
Yup twice.
She put two newborn babies in garbage bags and disposed of them like trash. Then she went on to get married and have three other children. After exhibiting such heartless behavior toward her first two babies, I can’t help but wonder what kind of mother she is with her other three. And I wonder how her living children feel knowing they have siblings whose mother never wanted to have a chance at life.Can’t imagine finding this out about my mother. Her poor kids.
Did she dump another
baby before this one ?
@@jmc8459 She also admitted to abandoning another newborn two years before that, when she was 21, though she didn’t specify whether that baby had been born alive. When officers looked later, they could not find the remains, and she has not been charged with any crimes in connection with this second confession.
Just so I’m clear, did she marry the man who was the father of the babies? Because she said her and her husband were dating right when this happened right?
Were they full term babies
@@reneegonseth7072 she told them about the 2nd baby and drew on a map where she dumped it!!
Her saying her father was against having children young and not married, I'm sure if she said dad im going to put your grandbaby in a plastic bag and throw it out like trash in the woods, he would opted to her keeping it.
RIP August baby 💔
She was in her 20s and did it to more than one full-term baby. I can’t imagine her parents being proud of her actions now.
Was it incest though
@@Ann-sj4pt No, it wasn’t. That would have been incredibly easy to see on the DNA test.
No, she said they were both Mark’s babies (her future husband). They verified the second baby with his DNA.
@@leannemo7382 I didn't say they weren't his. Was talking about her father being against her having children at a young age.
That's not a mom. This is a monster.
Mom and monster is not mutually exclusive, sadly. There are people out there who are both.
@@MrGrumpyGillsthey're called pro abortionists.
@sapphonymph8204 😂😂😂 I mean I rather someone abort a child than a child suffer an entire lifetime. We have enough kids that need help & our social system for children is not large enough. So yes aborting would have been her best bet if she felt she could not as it would have been before full term. She wouldn't of held her already born baby before murdering it. Sad thing is she will remain living & wasting our tax dollars now anyways.
@@SuperMexarican hello.
@@sapphonymph8204 They're called murderers. That baby was born and then she mutilated it. That's murder.
The fact she didn't look to see the babies gender says she was completely detached from the situation. I can't imagine her husband and kids learning she did this.
She is so detached from reality. And I'm convinced she's done this even more times than she's admitting.
ofc she’s gonna be detached😭
she literally has done this multiple times her husband fs knew!
They're probably as narcissistic as her if they still have anything to do with her after her "poor me" and fake crying performance.
They know. She’s a psychopath and I’m 100% positive they’ve seen signs of this over the years.
zero emotion. I save little bugs and this monster tossed her new born baby out like trash. Unfathomable.
Babies.... she did this twice. They never found the 1st baby even after she drew them a map. This interview is about the second child. She is a selfish monster
I was feeling the same! I can’t squish a bug and this lady murders her own babies and tosses them out in the woods. I’m speechless and appalled. How do these people even exist??
Apparently not the first child she dumped to die either according to her confession. And she was noted for always calling the child by "it"
She said it on here!! Do any of you actually watch these videos or just get into the comment section?
🤬🤬
She said she didn't look at the gender of the baby.
A cimplete liar.
I feel nauseous with this woman.
Sounds like she has no empathy. Telling her,your child was alive and she murdered the baby ,she has no emotional reaction.She is still calling the baby an it. Don’t know what’s up , no sorrow,
no crying nothing. WTF
EXACTLY like Alexie Trevizo's case.
you just called the baby an it yourself
@@fahq She also called the baby a child.
That’s the part that gets me !
She constantly called the baby ,” it “ !
The detectives picked up on that and , they were referring to the baby as the “ baby “ .
She was distancing herself from the child and the crime !
@@fahq😂😂😂
Im sorry, but how could you ever, EVER, forget anything about giving birth then tossing your own child away like household garbage??!!! Absolutely deplorable. And to think she was a nanny to someone else's child.
Especially the first and those circumstances. Unless to cope all these years she blocked it and made herself believe it never happened. She's had a lot of years to reprogram her brain
2 children
Reductive but then thats to be expected from the outrage mob
She dumped two babies!?!??
@@tamib711,
If she can’t love your own babies I don’t see how she could like someone else’s . I would imagine she’s a cold hearted woman only going through the motions .
there is something Very Wrong with her. the way she answers is Strange and detached
She got caught and arrested for killing her baby..
The fact she is referring to the sweet baby as "it" breaks my heart.
nobody knew if it was a boy or girl, aka "it"
@@juliaroy1382 So she didn’t even care enough to check? That’s the first thing any normal parent does.
She could of said “ the baby”
Distancing language, she calls the baby ‘it’ and goes on to talk about ‘*her* twins’
Must be a democrat.
This story really upset me extremely. It is worse that she did it more than once.
“ I was afraid of what everyone would think of me if I had a baby so I became a murderer instead”
Right
@@TonTon80373 the logic of some people is wild
👀
😂😂😂
She made a terrible decision but the world was different then, families were different. It was an enormous humiliation for some to be pregnant out of wedlock. I won't defend it but I see how it might make sense for her to try to "erase" the mistake.
There weren't safe havens with no questions back then.
What irony that she spoke of being a counselor and member of a church youth group. As a guilty party, she was shocked and didn’t think it through when they asked her if she knew why they were there. When she answered “a baby” it was game over.
These people aren’t always saints and angels. They have the deepest backgrounds. Judge the most and evil.
I learned that people that go to church are going for a reason a guilty reason
@@AlexandraW-f3s,
Self preservation 😂😂😂
Some church going folk are evil. Offsetting their heinous acts with prayers. Weirdos.
@@AlexandraW-f3s
That’s absolutely ridiculous! What is wrong with you?!
How selfish would a mother have to be to murder her children to protect her reputation? Unimaginably so, in my estimate.
There are countless families out there that would have loved and raised those babies as though they were their own.
That's right Kevin, these democrats have to be stopped!
Amazing how she remembers some things and not others. Selective memory.
Amazing she was caught after so long.
Familial DNA - After the trash bag with the dismembered remains of her second newborn was dragged closer to the road by foraging animals.
So was another woman, Annie Anderson, recently for the same thing after 25 years or so
I have a correction for your title. "The mom who dumped BOTH of her Newborn Children on the side of the road"
She had twins?
She is the lowest.
@@HandlewasNoNo. Two separate unwanted pregnancies.
@@HandlewasNono, she did it twice.
@@monicascott2354i think its safe to call her a serial killer
Look at the face of this woman when the crimes she did came back haunt her.
Anyone else see the outline of a human figure on the wall right side? 🚹
Oh wow yes! Right as I read your comment I saw it😮. Creepy.
Yup I see it.
yes I see it
It looks like the Stranger Stories logo
Yes
I don’t care how many years ago it happened, you gave birth to a baby, threw it in a trash bag and dumped it into the woods, I think I would remember every thing about that day!!! That poor baby 😢
2 of them I believe she planed the murders considering she never named them! Mark would know when she named the ones who did servive I wonder if she thought about killing the servicing children too?!?? ⁉️⁉️⁉️
Which one?
Two babies
She remembers. How could a human being not remember the most evil thing they ever did, twice?
I don't understand why she hid her pregnancies and dumped the babies. She was in a long term relationship and ended up marrying the father. She has to be a psychopath
I don’t understand how you hide a pregnancy from someone you are intimate with. I only gained 18 pounds with my first child but I was obviously pregnant.
First, I really hate that this happened; I wish she would have allowed someone to help her, even if it was someone outside of her immediate circle of influence. Second, NEVER let law enforcement question you without an attorney (private preferably) present.
Right! They tell her, You’re not under arrest. . . right now. Then they read her her miranda rights. She definitely needed an attorney present
Her side of the story? You mean you want a statement from her. She absolutely needs a lawyer present.
They told her is up to her to answer the question without an attorney.@@penelopelove5517
She killed at least 2 babies I don't really care about her rights or what she should have done. She didn't need any support, she needed empathy and she still doesn't have it while she sits there calling a baby "IT".
@@madsdee7803while I also think she is completely deplorable, even people like that have rights and deserve to have someone representing them on their behalf specifically when they are being questioned by trained detectives. I agree that those babies deserve justice, but her having legal representation doesnt mean she will get away with it. It just means justice should come after a fair legal process.
This is America, after all.
not one shred of empathy
Even IF she had shown any, you would’ve said she was faking anyway.
@@bradenharris8718 How many babies have you aborted?
She flat out killed that baby.
And never looked back.
Babies!
Two babies.
Wait till you get to 1:48...
She makes it sound like that she was a teenager in the 50s and she was an adult in the 90s
I had a baby the same year as her at 16 and some people still thought it was VERY wrong to have a baby out of wedlock but 80% of people couldn't give a crap.
Besides been a murderer is much much worse
For 26 yrs she didn't think about "it." She didn't keep it "bottled up" because she didn't care him.
Don’t forget, it was TWO babies that she killed/dumped.
@@leannemo73822 babies?
Exactly
ok, so her alive, functioning children with brain cells who have loving memories, THEY deserve to suffer? Because of some random baby who had no memories? The cops ruined more lives than they saved. Over a fetus. What's the point? The baby wouldn't have remembered it??? It's not like it was hanging out going "oh this Is murder". Babies are aborted full term all the time.
Girl what?@@juliaroy1382
Anyone else bothered by the fact that the captioning of this entire video doesn’t match what they’re saying???? 💀🤦🏽♀️
Probably done by a service, vs a person.
Yes!! It was HORRIBLE! So many missing words/sentences!! 🤦♀️
I hadn't noticed I was so in awe of the situation
Really poor captioning.
YT caption is atrocious. Either mispelling or dyslexic? I'm HOH so often depend on CC. Sometimes yelling "Are you EVEN watching the same video playing!??" I've actually seen someone's last name spelt 3 different ways and language that you just know that person didn't just say!!
2 babies😮? She got at least 15 to life, Alexis Avila got 16 years ? Let's hope alexee trevizo gets similar sentences..
She only got 16yrs bc her baby lived. Alexee killed her baby.
This lady got life
So the baby was left and could have easily been torn apart by animals as food. What a terrible way to end a life. I will never understand the way some people think /don't think in a time of crisis. An adult should surely not be scared of parents finding out. This is more a case of she didn't want a child. She is so cold, killed 2 babies and not one tear.
Imagine being her living children and finding this out about your mom
Judging...which is why people get scared and do things like this.
@@forthebeez no they want to be free so they get rid of an "obstacle". There's no reason to leave a baby to die alone in a plastic bag. These lowlives always claim their babies were born dead (so they are only guilty of disposing of a body and get a reduced sentence). She knew she was pregnant and hid the pregnancy and then coincidentally the baby is born dead...wow what a coincidence again and again. Self serving sociopathy.
@@forthebeezthis is actually just one reason why people shouldn't do things like this
@@themassesmusicYou completely missed his point, for one, he’s saying peoples JUDGING AND SHAMING others is ONE OF THE REASONS this happens- not anything about why “people shouldn’t do things like this”.
And he’s right.
@@bradenharris8718 I don't judge her for anything but her lack of empathy and murdering her own babies.
There are so many people who would like to adopt a baby and this woman is a criminal and should be held accountable for her actions.
True. I was never able to have any. Not trying to make it about myself… but things like this just anger and hurt my heart
💯 I desperately want a baby of my own & people doing this to their own just blows my mind.
Absolutely !!!! 💯
havw you ever talked to a foster child? its a world of horror. maybe not as bad for babies....but that's if they get lucky.
@@Cole_CrossShe could have had an abortion. A woman desperate to give up a child could leave it at a fire station or hospital. At least she wouldn't get arrested later. Also, there are people who grew up just fine in foster care.
It’s truly amazing to watch her reactions in real time 😱 all the walls closing in . She knows she’s done. The mental torture she’s going through, she probably lived on the edge every day waiting for this . Crazy you never really know anyone .
What mental torture? She obviously never gave those two tiny humans a second thought.
She didn't care or she would not have done it once let alone however many times she really did it.
She should have asked for a lawyer as soon as she was read her rights. A lot of their questions were leading
Agree
Both of u are sick. Do y'all have experience in doing the same thing?
@@dakr3464My thoughts exactly
GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL
She killed 2 babies.
the way she would refer to the baby constantly as an "it" is revolting
amazing she remembers her 17 year old memories, but cant remember being pregnant. she totally knows.
Wait, was she 17 or 23??? I’m so confused
@@rationalskeptic1 she did it twice
The 17 year old memories have nothing to do with any babies
Now I understand why you get a lawyer and do not talk!
Too late for her. DNA doesn’t lie.
I agree about a lawyer.
But I don’t feel bad for this woman. I would not want to be a lawyer on her case…idk if I could do it.
Ur sick to think she needs a lawyer, she needs to be held accountable for her crimes she threw 2 babies away in the cold in a trash bag to die slowly. Ur sick to side with this baby murderer.. u want a lawyer so she could possibly walk free and keep pretending like nothing happened... Ur just as much of a narcissist pos. It's called karma . And it caught up to her 30 years later thank God!l
Anyone who has had a baby knows that it just doesn't fall out of the birth canal like water and she acts like she doesnt remember squat. Giving birth to your first child isn't easy lady and its definitely something you're going to remember.
Yep she’s like - I gave birth or whatever you know .
It was her second baby. The first newborn that she killed & dumped was in circa 1991. Evil woman.
SECOND of her trashed newborns! 1991 & 1993 when she was in her 20’s.
@@leannemo7382wtf, what second baby? 😳
You're making presumptions that this woman's mind works in a normal way but obviously it doesn't. Women normally don't kill or discard their newborn babies. If it's possible for her to kill her baby it's also possible she doesn't remember everything clearly. Especially since it was decades in the past.
Why would u lose a man that loves you because you’re carrying his child!… sounds like a real winner . Imagine being her kids and finding out her killed two babies like that.
Insecure women choose men/ boyfriends over their own babies all the time. It’s disgusting .. it’s counter to nature .. but it happens.
Church goers. The shame of having a child out of wedlock etc etc.
She might have, super religious parents control their kids.
I feel like there was more to it. Possibly that she had another lover and didn’t know who the father was. That would explain why she was so worried ‘about losing him’. Either way, she is sickening 🤬
I think she was lying about being on birth control.
I was 16 when i had my first child. He's still the world too me
The fact that she dumped 2 babies and her husband & friends are still supporting her is disgusting!!!
Poor babies! What a sad case
Her story doesn't make sense because the placenta does not come out at the same time that the baby comes out. It's usually delivered anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes later. Her story doesn't make sense.
And how did she gt the trash bag from the kitchen and put the baby in it after it was born?
@@karenlittle7341walk into the kitchen and grabbed it? Lol what do you mean how?
I thought that was odd too, obviously it wouldn't occur to male police officers unless they were prompted to ask that question . I've attended 4 births and given birth twice myself and each occasion the placenta took its time to come and usually needed a little pushing or manipulating to come away .
@charlesmanswoon421 if she didn't cut the placenta it would've been 30-60 minutes before the placenta came away without medical intervention. So either she would've been sat in the bathroom attached to the baby for around an hour waiting for the placenta to come out, or she would've carried the baby to the kitchen attached to herself
Either way it would have been impossible not to see the baby breathing or moving in that time span.
Unless she lied about not cutting the placenta, but that seems unlikely as it doesn't make her look any better lying about it, and cutting it could have resulted in her bleeding out if not done correctly.
@@CraftingNannieI've given birth 3 times. And each time the placenta came out within a minute or 2 of delivering the baby. And I didn't have to push it. It just came out. It felt like the word bloop.
what a heartless monster! Animals care - she did not.
Neither do mother who murder their baby in a doctor's office.
@@sapphonymph8204
The difference there is that in those circumstances the fetus/zygote doesn’t even have a functioning nervous system yet. That is an entirely different matter than what happened in this case!
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 only pro murder people make that claim.
The truth is often uglier than one could imagine, but THIS…a new level of maddening and monstrous.
It's hard for me to understand why a woman who is sexually active cant accept the fact that one day she might be pregnant then when the baby is finally born, she will find a way to abandon the baby even in the most evil way
Not having children before marriage vs murder.
Makes sense
Maybe she feared loosing her whole family. Did you walk in her shoes?
Hello….options……not murder
@@annabrahamson4320 what shoes do you need to walk in where murder is the answer? Murder is never the answer. Coms on now.
@@sherrisRNwithout a doubt! Preach it sister nurse!
I totally agree cause she didn't have a problem living with her boyfriend before they were married.
Heartbreaking. There's never an excuse for such cruelty.
Men do it every day.
@@ericaclauson6033ok not all of them so yes
yet, abortions are legal. We give women missed messages. Why isn't the father also held accountable - he knew of the first one!
@@ericaclauson6033 Do WHAT?? This is the second time I’ve read your comment.
@@YRSherrer2
You’re comparing this to abortions where zygotes/fetuses don’t even have developed nervous systems yet. That’s ridiculous.
55:00 that laugh after she said “couldn’t breathe” like the universe saying your newborn baby slowly SUFFOCATING IN A GARBAGE BAG literally “couldn’t breathe”
What was that Evil laugh? It wasn't her.
@@Judy.LoveandLightAlways it definitely did not. So out of context. iIt came from outside the interrogation room, but the timing!
@@maiziebug Thank you Maiziebug timing is spot on. Kindest thoughts to you and your family and Fur babies. 🙏😇
I thought the same thing..
So creepy!!
She deserves to be behind bars. However, the detective takes her phone while saying she's not under arrest, not reading her rights, etc. How is taking her phone for his safety? Not allowing her to make a phone call after being told she wasn't under arrest. Don't mess these cases up. These people need to go to jail.
I noticed that he took her phone ,her purse . Telling her she's not going to be arrested at that moment.
The officer said he couldn’t let her make a call although she was allowed to text work under observation. If she was free to call, she could have arranged to get someone else to intervene. She was interviewed at the station for her safety & the safety of the detectives because everything was in a secure location and filmed. With officers’ body cams and cameras at the station, there is no “he said/she said.” Any assaults by either party would be recorded. Any other abuse of her rights would be recorded. She wasn’t under arrest and she was free to leave at any time as she was instructed in the office. She chose not to do so and she also chose not to request an attorney.
@@GrammichalIts her not being able to call for help/council when she’s legally allowed to at that point.
I don't understand how no one noticed she was pregnant let alone herself. It cannot fathom putting baby in a bag, etc. This is horrible.
She literally threw babies all over the woods and then has the audacity to have three more and keep them. She needs to be put in jail.
Audacity to keep them?? Should she have thrown them away too?? Your comment is ridiculous.
How many babies????
@@nineteen8122 I don't believe the comment was supposed to sound like she should just throw them away. But if you keep some, why not keep them all? Or not have anymore at all.
@@nineteen8122you know what she means YOU sound like your defending the vile woman ?
@@roninboxersTwo newborns trashed in 1991 & 1993 when she was in her 20’s. 3 kids with the same father after marriage.
Pure evil in my opinion
Men do it every day
YES!
@@ericaclauson6033- Murder two children? REALLY?????? This wasn't a person who dropped 2 separate babies off at a fire station, or outside of the hospital or called 911 to report that you left a baby somewhere. This isn't a dead beat Mom who just left the children with the father or someone else. No, she MURDERED a baby, and then 2 years later, did it again. So, NO. Men DON'T do it every day!
@@ericaclauson6033
What do you mean "men do it every day"?
@@wvrjl
Yeah, I don't really get what they mean "men do it every day"
Selfish totally selfish, and a baby is dead
at 1:50:00 she admits to killing another one!!!!
2 babies
Omfg did they find second baby
😱@@na.nner.s
Two babies!! Watch the entire video.
A mother whom looses a child to stillbirth or one that dies shortly after birth doesn't "forget" a moment of that time. She wouldn't forget the date, refuse to look at her baby or find out the gender, they don't put their baby in a trash bag and then drive the corpse around for a week before discarding it in the woods as if it were food for wildlife. She needs to never see daylight again. What a monster and a menace.
Agreed
And just how do you know what she would remember or stuff away and deny. Oh, wait, you wouldn’t.
She’s not very bright but CLEARLY smart enough to know (I’d like to think it’s natural maternal instinct) that creating and carrying an innocent precious baby and then killing it is WRONG. She’s infuriating 🤬
My cousin had three children and never one bit in maternal feelings. It was all about getting a man married or not either of them
At first I was feeling bad for her. Then during the questioning to learn the baby was actually alive and all that and her lies I quickly felt sad and not sympathetic to this lady. Her calling the baby “it”
Not only that but she did it twice!
@@user-pt4df7so9ihow did you learn this??
@@user-pt4df7so9i Then got married and had 3 more! She knew exactly what she was doing.. selfishness comes to mind.
I think she refers to the baby as "it" for her conscience. Using he/she-him/her, child, baby (humanizing) makes her actions worse in her cold heart.
@@phoenixrising71715 for sure
If the husband, father of the child did, indeed know about the baby, then he should be charged the same as the mother. WTF??
He says he had no idea
He didn't care to ask about what happened after she told him she was going to see a doctor. He just stopped his involvement with the pregnancy. No questions. No thoughts. No opinion basically.
Apparently she never told her husband which was the father.
@@lisajeter9511 She told him. He at least knew about the second pregnancy. But she never told him about leaving the new born infant in the woods.
He must have known she was pregnant 🤔
2 babies she did this too. The one she spoke about first, dumped after birth, cord, placenta still attached, not a stitch on. She gave birth in the house she was working as a nanny while the kids were at achool. Dumped in woods after birth dumped, in a plastic bag alive to freeze to death in winter.
A year earlier 1991 another one dumped newborn in long grass after birth, nothing on, core and placenta attached. dumped to die in a plastic bag in the heat of summer.
I know. 100% HEARTLESS. There's a woman in the comments who keeps defending her saying that the cops shouldn't destroy her children's lives now based on something she did years earlier. It makes me wonder if perhaps she didn't do the same thing, herself. Either that, or perhaps she knows this woman... I don't think she knows the woman.
Julia Roy is the name of the woman defending her. She's disgusting. I've responded to her saying basically just that, maybe a little more. @@wvrjl
First thing my dad asked me when I told him I was pregnant was "when are you getting married?" I told him "I'm not" he had a look of disappointment because those were his values but he accepted my choice and he loved his grandson, they only got a year together before my daddy died, by that time he didnt gaf that I was not married
She keeps calling her new born baby “it” she’s clearly emotionless, no thought for that little baby in 26yrs!
She needs to go to jail for the rest of her life. How upsetting.
You mean prison, but yes, I agree!
I think she got 50 years
Wow. Such forgiveness & compassion. I’m guessing you’re without sin.
Almost half of the video is just them silently staring at each other
I sped up the playback.
I know it’s annoying.
@@francinejones2524 This isn’t a CSI presto chango TV. The detectives’ silence is a useful standard mechanism to get the the interviewee to talk.
This isn’t a CSI presto chango TV. The detectives’ silence is a useful standard mechanism to get the the interviewee to talk.
I was a 17 year old when I had my 1st child and 24 with second. WTF! This person was 23 and disposed of her baby!!!!!! Then the final insult is that she ended up marrying that man and had MORE children….. just disgusting
Anybody else Screaming "REQUEST A LAWYER "!!!
I was, I'm thinking 🤔 helloooo
No , cause she is guilty
Guilty? Innocent? Get a lawyer!!
Admitted to killing 2 babies, she still has a shot at parole in 15 years. She lived free 29 and 31 years. Justice will be had in the afterlife. She got off easy in this one. 😢
She was only free physically
You think she was free? She’s been in a mental prison for over 3 decades
She could've just brought the baby to a fire station or left the baby at a police station and left him or her there, even a hospital! any of those options would've been better than what she chose to do! How could you live with yourself, go on to have more children and not think about that first baby you had? looking at your children wondering who that baby would be now? evil. That poor baby wasn't trash.. that baby didn't even get to experience a second of love or comfort. She did this TWICE!
The safe haven law did not exist when she did this. When she had the babies it was criminal to also leave babies on doorsteps. You could not just drop a child off. However, murdering two children were not better options either. Her going full term she could have gone into a hospital and just had them adopted out. She didn’t want kids at that time. By her own admission Mark would have kept the baby
uh, no, that didn't exist at that time.
@@juliaroy1382Uh no.. Hello again, Julia. How many abortions have you had? 💔😢💔
@@Grammichal
Wtf?! Why would you say such a thing to a stranger?!
So sick of the people
I’m becoming frustrated with people as well. What is wrong with humanity?
@@chasehedges6775 I totally agree. The issue is no one wants to take responsibility for their actions and some people fight all their lives to have children and then this woman just decides to throw her baby away. It’s horrifying.
@@saracooper7904 💯. Beyond baffling and awful. 😞
I guess I’m just so tired of her calling the baby it. This was her child. She could have driven to a hospital and made sure the baby was fine and it was not fine and they could’ve handled it from there but she had no remorse and I’m sorry, but I don’t know anyone could ever do this.
Agreed. This is terrible
I show more emotion when I’m telling my husband about my day during dinner than this lady did when talking about how she murdered her two newborns.
Even if she had shown any emotions, you would’ve said she was faking anyway. She more than likely has compartmentalized this. But I don’t expect people to understand nuance.
She murdered them for a reason and that was her intention. She had every opportunity to get help or even take the babies to somewhere like a police station, hospital, fire station etc. She had bo empathy then, so whybexpect her to have empathy now this many later.
Some folk are heartless bo matter how much you may not want them to be. It's how it is.
I think she disconnected, because of mental problems at the time. Look how much she weight. 200-230.
I know right!!
Well obviously you two don’t share the same personality traits or perhaps you were raised differently, or maybe she had a harder life than you did. Your compassion is overwhelming.
I think she was terrified of her father and of her boyfriend dumping her if she messed up his plan. With her father’s constant abuse, she was used to disassociating too.
She also had arrested development: she wasn’t allowed to develop normally with her childhood trauma.
And with her severe low self esteem she couldn’t imagine doing anything but maybe panicking.
BUT it’s still a crime.
I can't have children of my own. There is nothing that makes me hate life like monsters like this. Not only did you take away a life YOU created, you took away the potential love that someone could give that child. Makes me see red.
There weren’t safety havens then ? No excuse for any of this . If you can’t or won’t keep baby . Why commit murder . These people disgust me
The Safe Haven/Baby Moses law was signed into effect in 1999.
And believe it or not, Texas was the first state to do so, by George W. Bush.
I had my baby girl at 23 years old and I was so happy, excited and proud to have my baby, I was so protective of her!
So sad....I think this should make all parents appreciate the need to have an open and honest dialogue with their children and to let them know that they will loved whatever happens. If Mark was the only person she felt had ever loved her...thats just really heartbreaking 😢
She said the only MAN. She tried to blame her father’s alcoholism for her decision not to confide in him. for whatever reason, she was heartless, but somehow she has a strong bond to her relationship with Mark.
Yes I am so broken hearted for a baby killer that nobody loved her but mark…. Nottttt. Nobody loves me but I would never touch a child.
So she was scared her dad would be mad about the baby, but yet, they lived together before getting married???
the fact that she refers to her baby as "it" speaks volumes, what a witch!
In her mind she has to dissociate in order to make sense of it. I believe she s a covert narcissist due to her severe childhood trauma.
She was terrified of her father as it was internalized into her. So she also feared mark s reaction.
I believe she had arrested development and was living a a life of auto pilot.
Although still a crime.
It's weird that you work at a dance school with kids because those kids were probably constant reminders of how old her kids would have been
She also has three kids of her own.
No. I guarantee you that she didn't think twice about it!
She never even thought of them.
The thing that gets me with these type of cases is the mother/father calling the baby "it"… they never ever say he or she… it’s always "it". I know it’s their way of disassociating, removing themselves & any emotion - but it just makes the whole situation sadder to me…😔🥺💔
I don’t care if it’s been twenty five years. If you don’t remember your baby’s birth date, something is seriously wrong with you.
She supposedly doesn’t remember either of the two babies that she killed/dumped.
I lost a baby before my third. I don't remember the day I actually physically lost the baby, but I remember the date the baby was due.. ❤
My thought too. But she Dumped her Baby, so a birthday isn't gonna be important to her.
Thats what I think, there was something wrong there and she had to find a way to cope.
And she doesn't know if the baby was a boy or a girl? That's hard to believe.
I cannot fathom this woman at all!
She hadn't thought of her crimes at all... for all of those years?!
Not when she went to "camp"?
Not when she became pregnant again?
Not when they placed her (wanted) newborns in her arms?
Not as her (wanted) children grew and changed and advanced?
And then her concern is only what people will think of her?!
Every woman that says “I was still having my period” has to know that event is so rare. She absolutely knew.
This makes my stomach roll. That poor Child.
reading articles where she said shd killed another baby the same way in 1991 and articles saying she shouldnt be in prison even tho she has murdered 2 innocent babies ..disgusting
I really wonder about her surviving children. It's wild to me that she could raise any children normally and then talk about the babies she killed and threw away with no emotion whatsoever. I hope for their sake they never see this video
This is really irritating, let her answer, and ACCEPT her answer as is
It’s literally an interrogation. The point is to not take her at her word but to push
My son died in 1988 & I'd give up everything for just 5 minutes. It's unnatural for a child to die before the parents. HOW?? Just How??
I had my baby at 16. I was scared but I knew I had to tell them. My son is 36 and I now have 3 amazing grandchildren ❤️
I had my son two months after my 19th birthday. i could never even have a thought of this to an y of my children
My sister got pregnant out of wedlock and was scared of telling him, my mom stood up for her and her child became the most beloved for my dad, what she said it's no excuse!!
I got tricked. I thought she was a young, scared, and ignorant young girl that made a mistake. Turns out she’s selfish, evil, and has no empathy.
You ALWAYS remember the birth of your child. She knew.
It wasn't a significant event to her. I'm sure she doesn't remember.
I would like to know how she took care of her other children?? She just said that she was more worried about him not loving her..
I was pregnant 2 times. No way her boyfriend or husband didn’t know. One Sunday morning I was in church and saw a mom getting on to her two little girls . After church I found out they were laughing because, my tummy was moving around. I was 7 months along and two five year olds knew.
To do something so horrific once is bad enough let alone doing it twice. Her excuses mean absolutely nothing. Afraid of daddy at 23 years old doesn't cut it.