Believe me, I know. Even the host there interviewing and his Ghetto Mafia Clique was my down South "big brother." "We stole big boi's car and all the jewelry.....; And you didn't sell out, crunk up the jury, I 💲paid your way out, gave you the fury." Extremely little bro, Finesse2Tymez....😉
It wasn't just the WestCoast. Organizations (not gangs) in the MidWest and South also was in Hip-Hop (i.e. BGDs (GDs & BDs), VLs [4CH], BPS, LKs, Down By Law, Diablos, Miami Boys, etc), was involved in the history of Hip-Hop, including the Decepticons in Brooklyn, New York and the Supreme Team in Jamaica Queens, New York.
@@unknownunknown9296 Special Ed already knew about the Decepticons (in Brooklyn's Flatbush, East Flatbush and Bed-Stuy) and South Jamaica Queens' Supreme Team lol. He tried to deflect all the negativity in Hip-Hop to the WestCoast. A lot of other New York Rappers hating on the WestCoast and the South, back in the 1990s.
@@GriffinPoole HOLD UP BRUH. MAYBE YOU NEED TO READ WHAT I PUT AT THE TOP OF THIS DISCUSSION!!!! I SAID....SPECIAL ED IS GOING IN ON NWA ABOUT SOMETHING THAT AS ALREADY EXSISTED WAY BEFORE WHEN NWA EVEN PICKED UP A MIC!!!!!
My cuzn from New York and he told me about a crew called the butt naked crew…..when I heard that I laughed so hard. But he said they would rob you and make you strip naked
People keep saying that New York didn't have gangs that was the whole purpose for hip hop to get rid of the gangs to stop the violence so we don't remember Beat Street and the movie that Fab 5 Freddy was on it's been gangs since probably the beginning of time the Warriors I think the miseducation of Sonny Carson or something like that
The biggest issue with LA gang culture is that it drove another wedge through black ppl that were into hip hop. Straight up division. Just because it's considered blue versus red, doesn't mean it isn't black versus black. From what I heard,Mexican gang culture is dominant in LA which if true makes this all twice as bad
@@mansamusa9465 Remember when Southsiders were scared of them when numbers were different? Probably not. Why do you think they teamed up with whiteboys dummy? LA dudes had your city on lock 9x outta 10 or at the least brought the game to it.😂
3:10-3:30 The first Bloods & Crips movie was “The George McKenna Story” HARD LESSONS before Colors. Washington High everyone attended there. Even Raymond Washington,Stanley Tookie Williams,OG Cutes I mean everyone but not all at the same time but damn near not far behind. This movie mentions other gangs from the Crips & Bloods all attended there at war. Now you did have T. Rogers in the movie Colors and other real Gang Members as well. But I’m just clarifying it wasn’t the first Bloods & Crips movie.
Tribalism is a way of life survival for the fittest is real your always outnumbered fear not that's how you lose yourself this is coming from a SOLO. OG at 52 ❤
EXACTLY 💯. LET ME ASK THIS AND THIS QUESTION IS FOR SPECIAL ED AS WELL. HOW CAN A GROUP LIKE NWA BRING SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY EXSISTING, AS WELL AS A VIOLENT PROBLEM TO OUR CULTURE?
Honestly it was the movies and music coming out of the west coast as far as 80s and 90s go. In the 2000s and beyond the Internet and social media is also a factor.
Free game Ice T Killers, 6 in the morning, Toddy Tee, Batteram, and Mix Master Spade tracks are earlier than Colors, but I get he is saying it introduced it to the world. (The Batteram would come out later with a different beat)
I hen I first heard WC music I took as hell they going through the same thing we going through down south…just with different type of slang…but it’s the same s***
Quik was the first and snoop will tell u that wasn’t no mainstream rapper from the west claiming their set .: Quik made the red tape then loked out hood … the he recapped and spokes on it with jus lyke Compton
Many listeners of rap love to be lied to apparently. All they want to hear is ishh about money rolls, high-end brands of clothing, costly vehicles, mansions. NOT reality which is about many single-parent homes, poverty, street violence, rac1sm, alcoholism & drugs.
Nah goofy 😢 we in Cleveland was banging on the eighties smh.....Cali put it on wax ...we had and still have Crips, Bloods, Gd'$, Bd'$, Blackstones, Latin Disciples, all in the city and most of us all get along smh ......we was banging way before Cali rap goofy
We don't even really recognize or adhere to the top people in those gangs .... We in Cleveland straight hood, raw my guy.... We may belong to certain organizations but no organization is running or controlling Cleveland....come try and find out the HARD WAY!
0:37-0:57 There were NY Street Gangs all thru the 70’s of the early days of Hip Hop. The Black Spades ♠️ were the largest Street Gang in NYC in the early 70’s that had Divisions in every Boro. The Black Spades ♠️ were young teen Freedom Fighters from the late 60’s.Bronxdale Houses are the 1st Division and had like 10 Hip Hop Dj’s. One of the leaders of 1st Division and had his Crew the Chuck Chuck City Crew & The Big Mac Crew was Disco King Mario. A lot people say Mario was a Disco DJ and not a Hip Hop DJ. But the question is how many Disco Dj’s you know ran a Gang? Mario was playing breaks in ‘1971 but others claims he didn’t come out til 1977 according to seeing his name on flyers. Mario is East Bronx and Kool Herc is from West Bronx,there’s a discrepancy between them of who started What,When & Where first. Another Spade ♠️ from the 10th Division who is Warlord and credited as Creator of Hip Hop is Africa Bambaataa who was a Savage Nomad before joining the Spades ♠️. Africa Bambaataa is from Bronx River Houses. If you seen the Amphitheater scene in the first Hip Hop movie “Wildstyle” Grand Mixer DST is cutting it up on the wheels of steel and he was a Baby Spade ♠️ and B-Boy. There were so many Dj’s outta the Spades ♠️ were almost like a all DJ Crew. To prove that there were Street Gangs in the 70’s,there’s a film “The Education of Sonny Carson”1974. The Tomahawks were a real Brooklyn Street Gang R.i.P. Champ(Akbar U Allah)… Now by the time the 80’s there were Decepticons, or Decepts on the mic and Dj’s. In fact Russell was in a Street Gang,So Gang Culture goes back before Rap Records,I’m just putting it out during the Park Jam era. Cholly Rock of 17th Division was a Zulu King(Baby Spades ♠️)Direct Descendant of the line of The Black Spades. Who was a B-Boy and later join the Soul Sonic Force. I think he started making records with them but they do have flyers with his name on it from 1977. It’s too much deleted history or erase from Hip Hop to say there wasn’t Gangs in NY or brought into Hip Hop 😞 😔 😢
Choke No Joke Choke No Joke Choke No Joke lol - I already know who made that comment about the gangs in Hip Hop from California - Choke No Joke Choke No Joke Choke No Joke
@@terrellgaither8699 na im right bangin on wax was the first album crips n bloods was claiming sets and reppin rags....when 8 came out in 90...he did no such of a thing 😄
Gang banging was always going on it just wasn’t the politics of LA Crips/Bloods it’s was more of local gangs of blocks and hoods/clicks it wasn’t rag/color banging! Crips and Bloods it’s more a universal gang bang thing originated in LA
No lie 8 kinda got a point. I never even heard 8 say “Cuz” before let alone his gang. A lot of dudes barely or rarely mentioned their gangs wit the exception of snoop n his crew back then. People just took to what they wanted to and was lookin for sumthn to be like. Even Quik first couple albums barely mentioned any gang shyt. Nwa wasn’t in a gang and never mentioned it. Yet they all get blamed for bringin gang culture to rap…..
Quik had Loked Out Hood on his first album but he always denied his affiliation even though they said at all his shows he was wearing red and throwing up gang signs.There's a video on UA-cam he was wearing Chicago Bulls shit wearing his hat backwards and flashing blood signs to the crowd
@@UA-cam_Street_Drifter yea but still his music was barely bangin. Quik music was always about partying… people take one little piece of sumthn and run with it…. Nigga made 900 party anthems and people only highlight the few songs he actually banged on lol the fans are just not that smart if we being honest… La dudes was livin they truth they wasn’t tryna influence the world. The world took the movies music And mixed it all up and ran with it.. thats not them niggas fault
@@thatsoboy1871 he did but that was later on, Jim Jones and dipset already was blooding back in 2000 in hip hop. Lil Wayne and Baby wasn’t just go back and check out their old videos
No Jim Jones did not bring the Damu card to the East Coast. It was Treach from NJ. Tupac had a East Coast group the “Outlaws” and Treach had a West Coast group the “Road Dawgs” and the road dawgs just happen to be from Inglewood and they was Damus. So when they came back they just told stories in the hood and everything else. So that’s why everybody always say double i “Inglewood Illtown” was the first set on the East Coast with an Original West Coast backing,it wasn’t just like to into a gang in L.A. and I’m gonna call ourselves this. They really the Gang that came thru lyrics.
The word “gang” have a negative stigma, we are a ppl with a different culture but no different, hiphop started as an outlet and alternative for the gangs in The Bronx, never forget we are tribal by default, listen to Just ice ( going way back ) , Schooly D and Freddy Fox, they banging their hood. We are a nation like The Black Spades ( Bambada was their leader) let stop throwing shade on Crip culture they are not just some murderous Villian was talking about Black Fraternities ok, black superhero when driven by the right purpose I promise 💪🏾🫡
Lets not sit here and act like after the success of NWA record labels didn't start running out and signing MAINLY Gangsta Rappers. Once NWA took off every record label wanted a Gangsta rapper or Gangsta rap group on their roster. And once Gangsta Rap began to totally outsell all other genres of Hiphop, most record labels started signing ONLY Gangsta rappers. Through Gangsta Rap, mainly Westcoast Gangsta Rap, gangbanging entered the game. Lets not sit here and act like thats not true. THATS what Special Ed meant. And yes, folks will try and mention Schooly D's PSK or BDP's Criminal Minded. But the fact is THOSE artists didn't make the industry start running out and signing nothing but Gangsta Rappers. NWA DID.
Special Ed is a hypocrite. Name of Boogie Down productions first album was " Criminal Minded" Raekwon, Ghostface Killah, Nas, AZ, Jay-Z, Biggie, Beanie Sigel, Memphis Bleek, Mobb Deep, The Lox, Dipset, Fat Joe, & Big Pun and many more on the East Coast rapped about the criminal life. For Special Ed just to single out the West Coast was complete BS.
No they didn't because they actually rappers that don't represent the gang lifestyle period that was a counteract to gangster rap so that's definitely false
The Deceptz and Lo Life’s were gangs represented in late 80s/early 90s NY rap. Onyx and Duck Down records. As far as the Midwest, Common first went by Common Sense and claimed 4 Corner Hustlers on his early work (Can I Borrow A Dollar). Crucial Conflict claimed UVL. Universal Love was a song on their first work. Twista and others banged but it was more coded. Most Midwest gangs are present in the south. Gangs been representing in hip hop since the 80s if you read between the lines but the west coast was most overt with it.
Eiht is my dude but I have to disagree, I'm around his age, but growing up in North Long Beach, me and my friends didn't want to be gang bangers. we wanted to be drug dealers, those dudes were fly riding around in nissan trucks and el caminos 1:56
MC Eiht is a national treasure!!!
My thoughts exactly
Yes he most definitely is
Facts💯
True and under appreciated
Absolutely
Thx Eiht, for the breakdown to the unenlightened .
Eiht is easily in the top 5 Westcoast rappers
Top 10 or 15
💯💯💯 Major Facts 💯💯💯
MC Eiht...a legend!!!the south we fu*k with you!!!💯🗣️✊🏿💪🏿🫡🐐
His family from Mississippi
8 Hype 💯
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MC Eiht is on point. When the Movie colors and Ice T song Colors came out in 1988 gang bangin rose 90 percent across the country. salute from chicago
CRACK WAS THE ONLY REASON
GANGS ENDED UP IN OTHER CITIES
IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW
@johnleon2594 If you say So. I'm from Chicago we had that way before crack came.
@@johnleon2594 It was not the only REASON IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW
Yep it started in Chicago Larry Hoover. Jeff fort. David barksdale Micky cogwell Just to name a few.
@@righteousmasculine It didn't start in Chicago gangs actually started in New York
Literally was just listening to “nothing but the gangsta” this morning. I swear we’ll never get great music like that again shit is sad
Spice 1 ,Red Man and Eiht.Straight classic 🔥
Pops walked out, never had a big brother, put on the set so I could pick the right color!
Its out there. People who didnt sell they souls. You just gotta find them
Eiht speaking on the depth of the culture is disheartening but the truth. Even though most will argue that it was not by design.
MC Eiht... Top 5 west coast rappers... His albums are timeless
💯💯💯👑👑👑👑 Timeless Truth . . .💯💯💯💯👑👑👑👑
MC Eiht is the second teacher after "The Blast Master" of the West Coast.
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Good to see Eiht still doing his thang!💪🏾🔥🔥
The MIDWEST AND DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE SOUTH WAS BANGIN HARD BACK IN THE DAY
Hood took me under. That was a culture shock
Wicked took forever to get question off lol
MC Eiht 🙏🏽 always appreciated his music and vibes
Eiht Hype 💯💪🏿
Gangs were everywhere, just wasn’t B&C
Believe me, I know. Even the host
there interviewing and his
Ghetto Mafia Clique was my down South "big brother."
"We stole big boi's car and all the
jewelry.....; And you didn't sell out,
crunk up the jury, I 💲paid your
way out, gave you the fury."
Extremely little bro, Finesse2Tymez....😉
Eiht gave a thorough azz answer... 💪🏾
It wasn't just the WestCoast. Organizations (not gangs) in the MidWest and South also was in Hip-Hop (i.e. BGDs (GDs & BDs), VLs [4CH], BPS, LKs, Down By Law, Diablos, Miami Boys, etc), was involved in the history of Hip-Hop, including the Decepticons in Brooklyn, New York and the Supreme Team in Jamaica Queens, New York.
Thank You. Now, can you explain what you just said to SPECIAL ED?!!!!!!
@@unknownunknown9296 Special Ed already knew about the Decepticons (in Brooklyn's Flatbush, East Flatbush and Bed-Stuy) and South Jamaica Queens' Supreme Team lol.
He tried to deflect all the negativity in Hip-Hop to the WestCoast. A lot of other New York Rappers hating on the WestCoast and the South, back in the 1990s.
@@Mr.Majestic77 special ed never said that
@@unknownunknown9296 special went in on NWA, not the whole west coast... u need to watch that episode again
@@GriffinPoole HOLD UP BRUH. MAYBE YOU NEED TO READ WHAT I PUT AT THE TOP OF THIS DISCUSSION!!!! I SAID....SPECIAL ED IS GOING IN ON NWA ABOUT SOMETHING THAT AS ALREADY EXSISTED WAY BEFORE WHEN NWA EVEN PICKED UP A MIC!!!!!
Str8 up Menace
Brilliant 🪄✨️
I'm glad he clarified this for the south and east being from cali living in the A now
The east coast had gangs but it wasn’t any red and blue shit. It was cliques with names and you was just from a certain block, area or zip code.
Same as the south
My cuzn from New York and he told me about a crew called the butt naked crew…..when I heard that I laughed so hard. But he said they would rob you and make you strip naked
Give Eiht his muhfukkin roses!!!
Love this dude!!!
OG 8 Hype & CMW 🐐🐐🐐🐐😎😎😎🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
We're builded different on the WestCoast...
People keep saying that New York didn't have gangs that was the whole purpose for hip hop to get rid of the gangs to stop the violence so we don't remember Beat Street and the movie that Fab 5 Freddy was on it's been gangs since probably the beginning of time the Warriors I think the miseducation of Sonny Carson or something like that
Every major city had gangs. They’re talking about banging.
Thank u
Even in the Message at the end, we're the the Furious Five, what is that a Gang
The biggest issue with LA gang culture is that it drove another wedge through black ppl that were into hip hop. Straight up division. Just because it's considered blue versus red, doesn't mean it isn't black versus black. From what I heard,Mexican gang culture is dominant in LA which if true makes this all twice as bad
LA dudes are scared of Mexicans
LA dudes get online an act like they're from the roughest environment in the world, yet they scared of Southsiders
@@mansamusa9465
Remember when Southsiders were scared of them when numbers were different? Probably not.
Why do you think they teamed up with whiteboys dummy?
LA dudes had your city on lock 9x outta 10 or at the least brought the game to it.😂
The homie MC Eight in the building west coast stand up
Late night hype
💯Classic
Released right before
I 🎓 Graduated from the
Eighth Grade.
3:10-3:30 The first Bloods & Crips movie was “The George McKenna Story” HARD LESSONS before Colors. Washington High everyone attended there. Even Raymond Washington,Stanley Tookie Williams,OG Cutes I mean everyone but not all at the same time but damn near not far behind. This movie mentions other gangs from the Crips & Bloods all attended there at war. Now you did have T. Rogers in the movie Colors and other real Gang Members as well. But I’m just clarifying it wasn’t the first Bloods & Crips movie.
We come strapped, hood took me under! 🔥 💯
MC Eiht is speaking realness,if anything..it was dudes outside of Cali who wanted to live that lifestyle,and they ran with it. 💯
Am I the only one hearing somebody snoring in that MF?
I heard that shit too😂😂😂
I heard dat sh*t 2 folk.
Who?
Tribalism is a way of life survival for the fittest is real your always outnumbered fear not that's how you lose yourself this is coming from a SOLO. OG at 52 ❤
True. Real coast belonging.
If you got people from L. A. They all say colors f up every thing.
Thiz iz the point, (reach the realness-) 🎱
Real talk
A Homie you need some help my favorite part of menace to society he definitely a ❤ 🐐 shout out to the west i live out here now from the dirty south
Couple days late, but this is great! Smooth Cut team sliding through to do a B High podcast interview has made my Sunday morning. 👊🏾 🙏🏾
EXACTLY 💯. LET ME ASK THIS AND THIS QUESTION IS FOR SPECIAL ED AS WELL. HOW CAN A GROUP LIKE NWA BRING SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY EXSISTING, AS WELL AS A VIOLENT PROBLEM TO OUR CULTURE?
Honestly it was the movies and music coming out of the west coast as far as 80s and 90s go. In the 2000s and beyond the Internet and social media is also a factor.
MC Eiht is a straight up kat! True G. . .I always love hearing his podcast and his story telling introspective
cointel bought gang banging into hop hop , hence banging in ny and now drill in cali and worldwide
Correct!
Banging in New York started in Rikers Island fool 😂! You don't know what you're talking about.
There were definitely gangs in rap!! Everyone on the back of paid in full was a member! 😂 it just wasn't B's and C's
Real sh!t Salute
Free game Ice T Killers, 6 in the morning, Toddy Tee, Batteram, and Mix Master Spade tracks are earlier than Colors, but I get he is saying it introduced it to the world. (The Batteram would come out later with a different beat)
8 Hype 💯😎😎💯
Just Ice was in the Black Spades, but I think he was on the five percenters when he started rapping.
Emphatically No
He was not a Black Spade ♠️. He mention the Black Spades on his record “Going Way Back.”
True indeed he is a 5%er
Let’s talk about Dollars and Sense by DJ. QUIK
Not just crips n bloods, chicano gangs too!
New York had gangs, just not banging.
BHIGH is the Best
wick them glasses crocked asf
😂😂
We get you bro
Good stuff
Dope interview eiht broke that down
I hen I first heard WC music I took as hell they going through the same thing we going through down south…just with different type of slang…but it’s the same s***
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Snoop and Lil Wayne put it on mainstream
DJ Quik was the first Blood but yeah he was never super mainstream even though the entire hip hop community and the streets knew what time it is
Quik was the first and snoop will tell u that wasn’t no mainstream rapper from the west claiming their set .:
Quik made the red tape then loked out hood … the he recapped and spokes on it with jus lyke Compton
The first gangsta rapper was actually Schooly D. and he's from Philly. His gang was P.S.K.
8Hype Livin Legend! 💯
PEACE 🍂🍁
🌎✌🏾🐸
He said if u didn't u got fucked up 😂😂😂😂😂😂 damn banging was serious 💯💯
I respect that from Mc eiht
Ignorance is a hell of a drug...
As a people we are not gangbangers
Not true. There was bloods off candler road and Glenwood. We had Gd's in Belvedere.
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Many listeners of rap love to be lied to apparently. All they want to hear is ishh about money rolls, high-end brands of clothing, costly vehicles, mansions. NOT reality which is about many single-parent homes, poverty, street violence, rac1sm, alcoholism & drugs.
'IT AIN'T WHERE YOU FROM .. IT'S WHERE YOU AT' - DA GOD MC RAKIM
In the Westcoast iz "It's not where you at. It's where you from homie". What set u claim.
Who is that snoring in the background😅😅😅
A homie you need some help 💥💥💥💥
Hood Took Me Under ×
Comptons Most Wanted
Geah!
Well what is the notorious 159😂😂😂
He OJ’d him. “I’m not saying you did it but if you did…”
Ok!! So that proves what's been said all the while....!!!! Real gangstas are from Cali everyone behind it is Fu Fu!!
🤣 chicago started gangbanging
O block in Chicago begs to differ.
Naw my g it's real gangsters everywhere
Nah goofy 😢 we in Cleveland was banging on the eighties smh.....Cali put it on wax ...we had and still have Crips, Bloods, Gd'$, Bd'$, Blackstones, Latin Disciples, all in the city and most of us all get along smh ......we was banging way before Cali rap goofy
We don't even really recognize or adhere to the top people in those gangs .... We in Cleveland straight hood, raw my guy.... We may belong to certain organizations but no organization is running or controlling Cleveland....come try and find out the HARD WAY!
0:37-0:57 There were NY Street Gangs all thru the 70’s of the early days of Hip Hop. The Black Spades ♠️ were the largest Street Gang in NYC in the early 70’s that had Divisions in every Boro. The Black Spades ♠️ were young teen Freedom Fighters from the late 60’s.Bronxdale Houses are the 1st Division and had like 10 Hip Hop Dj’s. One of the leaders of 1st Division and had his Crew the Chuck Chuck City Crew & The Big Mac Crew was Disco King Mario. A lot people say Mario was a Disco DJ and not a Hip Hop DJ. But the question is how many Disco Dj’s you know ran a Gang? Mario was playing breaks in ‘1971 but others claims he didn’t come out til 1977 according to seeing his name on flyers. Mario is East Bronx and Kool Herc is from West Bronx,there’s a discrepancy between them of who started What,When & Where first. Another Spade ♠️ from the 10th Division who is Warlord and credited as Creator of Hip Hop is Africa Bambaataa who was a Savage Nomad before joining the Spades ♠️. Africa Bambaataa is from Bronx River Houses. If you seen the Amphitheater scene in the first Hip Hop movie “Wildstyle” Grand Mixer DST is cutting it up on the wheels of steel and he was a Baby Spade ♠️ and B-Boy. There were so many Dj’s outta the Spades ♠️ were almost like a all DJ Crew. To prove that there were Street Gangs in the 70’s,there’s a film “The Education of Sonny Carson”1974. The Tomahawks were a real Brooklyn Street Gang R.i.P. Champ(Akbar U Allah)… Now by the time the 80’s there were Decepticons, or Decepts on the mic and Dj’s. In fact Russell was in a Street Gang,So Gang Culture goes back before Rap Records,I’m just putting it out during the Park Jam era. Cholly Rock of 17th Division was a Zulu King(Baby Spades ♠️)Direct Descendant of the line of The Black Spades. Who was a B-Boy and later join the Soul Sonic Force. I think he started making records with them but they do have flyers with his name on it from 1977. It’s too much deleted history or erase from Hip Hop to say there wasn’t Gangs in NY or brought into Hip Hop 😞 😔 😢
Shuda Beena B Dog...
Gangs been around dont have to be in color West Coast brought gangbanging rap music
Goin out like Gz!! GEAH! 💪🏿💯
Eiht broke it down right.
Choke No Joke Choke No Joke Choke No Joke lol - I already know who made that comment about the gangs in Hip Hop from California - Choke No Joke Choke No Joke Choke No Joke
@bhighatl. Ask eight if he came to belvedere kroger citi center and was selling his tapes outbthe trunk?
It was about neghus vs neghus
west coast started it from the album "bangin on Wax" all them other people dude named dont even matter 8 n all them came after
Naw you are incorrect bangin on wax came last 8 and nwa and others was before
8 was before banging on wax
@@terrellgaither8699 na im right bangin on wax was the first album crips n bloods was claiming sets and reppin rags....when 8 came out in 90...he did no such of a thing 😄
@@PAYY-Z Dj quick was banging on wax b4 the peace treaty . I know when banging on wax came out
@@terrellgaither8699 name the song foolio 🤌🏾
Westside Story & The Education Of Sunny Carson Was About Gangs In New York!!!
You did have choice, what he said is not true,
NY definitely had gangs ,the most famous one was the Latin Kings.
Ofcourse nyc had gangs when hip hop started it just wasnt how it looks now
Ok
Gang banging was always going on it just wasn’t the politics of LA Crips/Bloods it’s was more of local gangs of blocks and hoods/clicks it wasn’t rag/color banging! Crips and Bloods it’s more a universal gang bang thing originated in LA
No lie 8 kinda got a point. I never even heard 8 say “Cuz” before let alone his gang. A lot of dudes barely or rarely mentioned their gangs wit the exception of snoop n his crew back then. People just took to what they wanted to and was lookin for sumthn to be like. Even Quik first couple albums barely mentioned any gang shyt. Nwa wasn’t in a gang and never mentioned it. Yet they all get blamed for bringin gang culture to rap…..
Quik had Loked Out Hood on his first album but he always denied his affiliation even though they said at all his shows he was wearing red and throwing up gang signs.There's a video on UA-cam he was wearing Chicago Bulls shit wearing his hat backwards and flashing blood signs to the crowd
@@UA-cam_Street_Drifter yea but still his music was barely bangin. Quik music was always about partying… people take one little piece of sumthn and run with it…. Nigga made 900 party anthems and people only highlight the few songs he actually banged on lol the fans are just not that smart if we being honest… La dudes was livin they truth they wasn’t tryna influence the world. The world took the movies music And mixed it all up and ran with it.. thats not them niggas fault
Jim Jones and dipset brought the damu card to east coast hip hop and it spread to lil Wayne etc
Mack 10 but Baby & Wayne on
@@thatsoboy1871 he did but that was later on, Jim Jones and dipset already was blooding back in 2000 in hip hop. Lil Wayne and Baby wasn’t just go back and check out their old videos
@@MrBigtodd Mack 10 is from Queen st Inglewood that's a whole nother set what Jim Jones claiming
@@thatsoboy1871 yes I know that I’m from east orange nj and I know all about Queen St in Inglewood believe me. If you know you know 🩸
No Jim Jones did not bring the Damu card to the East Coast. It was Treach from NJ. Tupac had a East Coast group the “Outlaws” and Treach had a West Coast group the “Road Dawgs” and the road dawgs just happen to be from Inglewood and they was Damus. So when they came back they just told stories in the hood and everything else. So that’s why everybody always say double i “Inglewood Illtown” was the first set on the East Coast with an Original West Coast backing,it wasn’t just like to into a gang in L.A. and I’m gonna call ourselves this. They really the Gang that came thru lyrics.
The word “gang” have a negative stigma, we are a ppl with a different culture but no different, hiphop started as an outlet and alternative for the gangs in The Bronx, never forget we are tribal by default, listen to Just ice ( going way back ) , Schooly D and Freddy Fox, they banging their hood. We are a nation like The Black Spades ( Bambada was their leader) let stop throwing shade on Crip culture they are not just some murderous Villian was talking about Black Fraternities ok, black superhero when driven by the right purpose I promise 💪🏾🫡
Lets not sit here and act like after the success of NWA record labels didn't start running out and signing MAINLY Gangsta Rappers. Once NWA took off every record label wanted a Gangsta rapper or Gangsta rap group on their roster. And once Gangsta Rap began to totally outsell all other genres of Hiphop, most record labels started signing ONLY Gangsta rappers. Through Gangsta Rap, mainly Westcoast Gangsta Rap, gangbanging entered the game. Lets not sit here and act like thats not true. THATS what Special Ed meant. And yes, folks will try and mention Schooly D's PSK or BDP's Criminal Minded. But the fact is THOSE artists didn't make the industry start running out and signing nothing but Gangsta Rappers. NWA DID.
It’s no such thing as gangsta rap. It’s reality rap. It ain’t no pretty songs coming out of the hood.
@@jonathansimmons6452 , well then under YOUR logic, shouldn't ALL rap/hiphop be called "Reality Rap"?????
Special Ed is a hypocrite. Name of Boogie Down productions first album was " Criminal Minded" Raekwon, Ghostface Killah, Nas, AZ, Jay-Z, Biggie, Beanie Sigel, Memphis Bleek, Mobb Deep, The Lox, Dipset, Fat Joe, & Big Pun and many more on the East Coast rapped about the criminal life. For Special Ed just to single out the West Coast was complete BS.
@@MikeJones-pf4wd, aside from BDP all the rappers u named came wayyy AFTER NWA. What are u talking about???? What's ur point????
No they didn't because they actually rappers that don't represent the gang lifestyle period that was a counteract to gangster rap so that's definitely false
That’s not true. New York rappers were in gangs from the beginning. We just made it cool 🤷🏽♂️ which causes a lot of death
The Deceptz and Lo Life’s were gangs represented in late 80s/early 90s NY rap. Onyx and Duck Down records.
As far as the Midwest, Common first went by Common Sense and claimed 4 Corner Hustlers on his early work (Can I Borrow A Dollar). Crucial Conflict claimed UVL. Universal Love was a song on their first work. Twista and others banged but it was more coded. Most Midwest gangs are present in the south.
Gangs been representing in hip hop since the 80s if you read between the lines but the west coast was most overt with it.
Eiht is my dude but I have to disagree, I'm around his age, but growing up in North Long Beach, me and my friends didn't want to be gang bangers. we wanted to be drug dealers, those dudes were fly riding around in nissan trucks and el caminos 1:56